The Spirit of America

A celebration of the spirit of America!

Given Adam Curtis is perhaps a little too cerebral and a little too down on the joys of unbounded negative liberty, market-exchange as the alpha and omega of human experience etc., I present as a necessary corrective two giants of American public-life discussing the American ideology.

Please enjoy the fascinating and profound conversation - especially all of our American friends with all of your God-given and/or self-evident ‘natural’ rights.

Indeed, in reality, all people are proto-Americans - even if we don’t realise it. Freedom is calling!

Posted by Graham Lister on Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 09:52 PM in Political PhilosophyThe Proposition Nation
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Posted by DanielS on January 09, 2013, 03:18 AM | #

Another excellent curation Graham.

This clearly illustrates how the Jewish orchestrators of public opinion are manipulating the discourse to force people into identity as individualists with only the Constitution and its abstractions allowed as common denominator..

A “true conservative’ believes the government should be minimalized” LOL!

“In Pennsylvania a nativity had to be relocated.”

Notice how this discourse makes Christianity and the Constitution appear “rebellious.”

“It’s conservative issue, this is all painted as a progressive issue and its really not..
A true conservative believes the government should be out of as much as possible and there should be individual freedom.”

..and a true Protestant especially, or Mormon, believes very strongly in an individual relationship with god

Which means you have, in an ideal Protestant world, you have over a three hundred million different views of god..so we should just keep the state out of it

...because a true conservative cares about individual liberty.”

LOL.

i.e., a true conservative should be a liberal! LOL

That’s funny


Note how the We is proposed as taken for granted in this next statement:

“We don’t care at all about the majority in this country because the majority always gets what they want; what we care about is the individual; its the things that make you different from everybody else that have to be protected, the person we care about is the individual who is not just like us; we have to really fight for the rights… I don’t care if it’s one person in a town of 20,000 who says that “I’m not really into this”..


...and it’s not funny, on the other hand, of course.

Jewish liberalism and Marxism is always advocating freakish exceptions while ignoring and undermining vast and profound cultural/biological patterns.

This plays upon the altruism that should extend to those on the margins within our White group(s)...

But The Jewish discourse takes foreigners, those outside or antagonistic to the White social group, and makes them out to be “marginals.”

This shows explicitly the concerted efforts by Jewish interests to keep Whites from organizing as groups and beholden as Cartesian individualists.

“All I want is for more people to be included in more things. Let’s put as few things in (the courthouse) that are exclusive and as many things as are inclusive.”

Penn Jillette


...and Glenn Beck thinks he’s just great; wants him to have a show of his own.

- the Constitution as the only designator as in and out group..

...with more Jewish legislators, lawyers and sycophants to interpret it, no doubt.

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Posted by Will on January 09, 2013, 04:49 AM | #

Why do you assert that they represent the “spirit of America”, as opposed to, say, Henry Cabot Lodge or Ezra Pound?

http://racehist.blogspot.de/2008/11/new-england-political-thought-century.html

Let us summarize, then, in a few words the characteristics of the Anglo-Saxon race, which has peopled the United States. There is not perhaps in the world one which is more homogeneous and whose mental constitution is more easy to define in its great outline. The dominant qualities of this mental constitution are, from the standpoint of character, a will power which scarcely any people except perhaps the Romans have possessed, an unconquerable energy, a very great initiative, an absolute empire over self, a sentiment of independence pushed even to excessive unsociability, a puissant activity, very keen religious sentiments, a very fixed morality, a very clear idea of duty.

http://racehist.blogspot.de/2010/03/more-from-henry-cabot-lodge-on-race-and.html

Speaking in favor of immigration restriction in 1896, Lodge argued that though a Hindoo might “absorb the learning of Oxford” and even sit in Parliament, he could not be made an Englishman, even though they both came from the “great Indo-European family.” It had taken “six thousand years and more to create the differences which exist between them,” and these could not be effaced by education in a single lifetime. Lodge went on to ask what was the “matter of race which separates the Englishman from the Hindoo and the American from the Indian?”

http://racehist.blogspot.de/2010/08/ezra-pound-racial-preservationist.html

I am not arguing, I am just telling you. One of these days you will have to start thinking about the problem of race, BREED, preservation.

I do NOT like to think of my race as going toward total extinction, NOR into absolute bondage.

The Cincinnati etc. erred from snobbery. They did not in George Washington’s time organize on racial basis. No one thought of it, no one could have then thought of it. There WAS a racially homogeneous population in the newly freed colonies.

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Posted by DanielS on January 09, 2013, 05:29 AM | #

Will,


I agree that problems which beset and emanate from American do not derive of their people or their innate “character”, but rather come from the powers and rules that be.

This was a cunning discourse and not only the media, but academia, politics and the legal system has enjoined American’s access to alternatives.

It is more a matter of the rules and powers that be than the American boobwazeee…

 

 

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Posted by Bill on January 09, 2013, 05:51 AM | #

Like the Atlantic convoys of WWII liberalism has decreed that civilisation will proceed at the speed of the slowest ship.

Does this mean civilisational suicide?

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Posted by DanielS on January 09, 2013, 06:09 AM | #

Posted by Bill on January 09, 2013, 05:51 AM | #

Like the Atlantic convoys of WWII liberalism has decreed that civilisation will proceed at the speed of the slowest ship.

Does this mean civilisational suicide?


Bill, I think the problem is a matter of who you want to define as your group.  I guess that you would want native English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish groups.

It would not then be a matter of immigrants and outsiders being your slowest ships, but not your ships at all.

Once your groups are delimited than you might decide how much lagging to tolerate by those on the margins of your groups and what to do about it.

The problem with the Jewish rhetoric as expressed in this discourse between Glenn Beck and Penn Jillette, is that it is trying to set your group delimitation completely out of bounds and replace it with an ideology of radical individualism, defining anybody, from just anywhere as your marginal and your slowest ship.

Penn Jillette got his start in Amherst, Mass - I am very familiar with his kind of casuistry.

 

 

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Posted by Thorn on January 09, 2013, 08:50 AM | #

Like everyone, Glenn Beck has his faults but he is not a radical individualist - at least not a radical individualist as defined by those who acually know what they’re talking about.

Robert Bork wrote: “Modern liberalism may not be quite the correct name for what I have in mind. I use the phrase to mean the latest stage of the liberalism that has been growing in the West for at least two and a half centuries, and probably longer. Nor does this suggest that I think liberalism was always a bad idea. So long as it was tempered by opposing authorities and traditions, it was a splendid idea. It is the collapse of those tempering forces that has brought us to a triumphant modern liberalism with all the cultural and social degradation that follows in its wake. If you do not think “modern liberalism” an appropriate name, substitute “radical liberalism” or “sentimental liberalism” or even, save us, post- liberalism.” Whatever name is used, most readers will recognize the species. The defining characteristics of modern liberalism are radical egalitarianism (the equality of outcomes rather than of opportunities) and radical individualism (the drastic reduction of limits to personal gratification). These may seem an odd pair, for individualism means liberty and liberty produces inequality, while equality of outcomes means coercion and coercion destroys liberty. If they are to operate simultaneously, radical egalitarianism and radical individualism, where they would compete, must be kept apart, must operate in different areas of life. That is precisely what we see in today’s culture.

Modern liberalism is very different in content from the liberalism of, say, the 1940s or 1950s, and certainly different from the liberalism of the last century. The sentiments and beliefs that drive it, however, are the same: the ideals of liberty and equality. These ideals produced the great political, social, and cultural achievements of Western civilization, but no ideal, however worthy, can be pressed forever without turning into something else, turning in fact into its opposite. This is what is happening now. Not a single American institution, from popular music to higher education to science, has remained untouched.”

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Posted by Thorn on January 09, 2013, 10:01 AM | #

This is what happens when a culture rejects the moral authority of the Church and replaces it with Oprah worship.

Lance Armstrong Will Ask Oprah for Absolution, Forgiveness in Interview

http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/01/08/lance-armstrong-will-ask-oprah-for-absolution-forgiveness-in-interview

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Posted by Bill on January 09, 2013, 11:36 AM | #

Just a tad off topic.

Anyone.  Can you tell me why Obama appointed Chuck Hagel as Defence Secretary thus slighting and sidelining the neocon faction?  Big brou-ha ha.

According to Justin Raimondo this could be a game changer.

Raimondo’s piece is a bit convoluted for me, is it because Hagel is a non interventionist?

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2013/01/08/the-hagel-battle-why-is-obama-doing-this/

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Posted by DanielS on January 09, 2013, 11:55 AM | #

I won’t vouch for the material on the right-hand side of the page,

Anti Theism,

but the audio files under the rubric, Jesus Who? are excellent:

Anti-Theism

http://www.resist.com/antitheism.html

JESUS WHO?

Jesus Myth

Christian Apologetics

No History

Bible-Cause to Celebrate?

Holidaze

No Witnesses

No Miracles


As for Glenn Beck, he is pathetic but at least he provides an easy example of how false opposition works.

 

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Posted by Bill on January 09, 2013, 12:01 PM | #

DanielS @ 5

Bill, I think the problem is a matter of who you want to define as your group.  I guess that you would want native English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish groups.

It would not then be a matter of immigrants and outsiders being your slowest ships, but not your ships at all.

It’s already happened, my group has been torpedoed, looks like this sucker’s going down.

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Posted by DanielS on January 09, 2013, 12:01 PM | #

Bill, as far as the ship of England and other White places going down, that may happen but…

That is why the life-boat of the Euro-DNA Nation is advisable.

http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/euro_dna_nation

It will allow us to regroup in the virtual world, in diaspora and some residual strongholds. Then we have a chance not only to survive, but to one day retake places that are rightfully ours.

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Posted by Thorn on January 09, 2013, 12:28 PM | #

Anyone.  Can you tell me why Obama appointed Chuck Hagel as Defence Secretary thus slighting and sidelining the neocon faction?  Big brou-ha ha.

In addition to dissing the neocons (I kinda like that part), most beleive it’s a twofold ploy to get “The Stupid Party” to eat one of their own in the conformation hearing. If that happens, then Barry can say to the “low information voters”: SEE! I tried to reach across the aisle in the spirit of bipartisanship, but the extremist faction that controls the GOP refuse to compromise with anything I propose.

OTOH, if Chuck Hagel is confirmed, Barry will always crow about his record of bipartisanship, thus fending off criticism on that front.

The frustrating thing is Barry—aided and abetted by his willing accomplices in the MSM— will win.

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Posted by Frontier Spirit on January 09, 2013, 04:20 PM | #

Lister, have you considered that statist intervention may be the principal cause of modern societal dysfunction?  What’s the more likely causal explanation for chavdom: Ronald MacDonald, or welfare democracy?  Left to their own devices (i.e. when the government stays out of their lives), people naturally form strong local communities (e.g. the Western frontier).

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Posted by DanielS on January 09, 2013, 04:32 PM | #

I doubt that it is a coincidence that Jewess Illana Mercer takes the same disingenuous line that the state is the root of all evil and that we merely need to promote sheer individualism, taking it for granted as the only way for Whites.

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Posted by Hymie In Afula on January 09, 2013, 05:11 PM | #

>>  Can you tell me why Obama appointed Chuck Hagel as Defence Secretary


Obama was the author of the Surge into Afghanistan as opposed to Iraq.  Now he sees what an unpopular, useless morass it has become. So, instead of saying out loud: “I was wrong, I will back track”; he merely appoints a Controlled Opposition guy to do it for him. It’s good to be King.

 

>>>  thus slighting and sidelining the neocon faction

Why would Obama expend political effort, much less political capital, making kissy to Neocons?  They won’t help him in any way, shape, or form.  They will NEVER vote the way he wants them to.  Obama can treat them the same way he’s treating lower-middle-class Blacks - ignore their desires. In the latter case, it’s the opposite reason:  They don’t have any ability to HURT him in the next mid-term elections. They will vote for Obama’s people NO MATTER WHAT, no matter how badly they get fucked by his preservation of Wall Street power structures.

No one in this board has ever gotten his hands on the levers of power; Obama did. That’s because Obama knows how to correctly classify all voters into one of two categories: the asses he still needs to kiss, and the asses he can afford to kick to the curb to make room at the feeding-trough for the first category.  Obama’s up there with LBJ at this game.

 


>>  Big brou-ha ha

In the soap-opera sound-stage which comprises the blogosphere.  But NOT in anyplace where it counts.

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Posted by Thorn on January 09, 2013, 06:39 PM | #

Obama was the author of the Surge into Afghanistan as opposed to Iraq.  Now he sees what an unpopular, useless morass it has become. So, instead of saying out loud: “I was wrong, I will back track”; he merely appoints a Controlled Opposition guy to do it for him. It’s good to be King.

Yes. I agree with that. Another way of saying it is the optics of having a Republican back us out of the Afghanistan debacle works much more to the favor of Obama and the Dems than if one of their own did it.

In any event, whichever way the Hagel nomination ends up, Obama will come out the winner.

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Posted by Thorn on January 09, 2013, 07:57 PM | #

A Prayer for Lawrence Auster


by Thor Christopher

Kristor at The Orthosphere is organizing a massed intercessory prayer on behalf of Lawrence Auster, who has battled cancer for some time and is currently having severe complications. The prayer will take place on January, 13th, from 5:00 to 6:00 P.M. This is a wonderful idea and I hope that all of you will participate.

Lawrence Auster has touched a great number of lives, mine most certainly included. I and many, many others owe him an immense debt of gratitude for his knowledge and insight, but we are also much indebted to him for providing us with inspiration that is so often needed in our world today. Won’t you please join in this prayer next Sunday. If you have any comments or questions concerning the event, Kristor is asking that you please leave them at The Orthosphere.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by DanielS on January 10, 2013, 12:06 AM | #

“Being White together” is not enough on the essential level of relationships - friends, spouse, co-workers, club members.

However, it is not only enough, but it is imperative on the deepest level of relationships.

Having grown up in a place without being able to take living with White people for granted and then moving to a place where I live with only White people yes, I observe that distinction: it does not solve some essential problems, but it does solve the deepest problems if you can fathom that distinction.


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Posted by Bill on January 10, 2013, 06:29 AM | #

Thorn @  17

The enigma that is Auster.

I’ve been tracking Auster probably as many years as I have been here at MR, I have yet to find a more insightful take on the workings of the liberal mind than Auster’s over at View from the Right.

Auster is an American conservative and a Jew, are they mutually exclusive?  Can’t be.  Can they?

As far as I know Auster never hides or denies what he is.  I’ve read here at MR that Auster’s default position is, he thinks himself first and foremost a Jew. 

Auster never fails to point out it is white’s fault that they are in the plight they find themselves, he even says white’s are committing suicide by not resisting the forces responsible.  I find this is difficult to refute at face value, but I have seen defensive counter claims here at MR. 

He also has no problem reaching for the A/S card when wishing to terminate criticism, which to me is just another form of political correctness, a tool to silence one’s opponent.  This is a fact, which throws confusion into the Laurance Auster intrigue.

And yet despite his deteriorating condition, he battles on remorselessly against (all?) things liberal, which he sees is destroying the America he obviously loves.

I for one would miss his daily musings if anything should happen to him.

As a nationalist, am I allowed to wish him well? 

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Posted by Graham_Lister on January 10, 2013, 07:34 AM | #

In an echo of Lake Wobegon in the land of the free many rather too many people rate themselves as ‘above average’.

A little snippet:

“The American Freshman Survey asks students to rate how they compare with their peers in different areas. It’s been running since 1966, and in 2012, analysis of the results showed that over the past 40 years, students have increasingly been describing themselves – from mathematical ability to self-confidence and drive to achieve – as “above average”.

The psychologist Jean Twenge and colleagues analysed the data and found a 30% increase in narcissistic attitudes among students since 1979. She says: “What’s really become prevalent over the last two decades is the idea that being highly self-confident – loving yourself, believing in yourself – is the key to success. Now the interesting thing about that belief is it’s widely held, it’s very deeply held, and it’s also untrue.”

Well, thank God for that. Imagine if that was all there was to it. Imagine if only your belief that you were special, that your confidence in your somehow “above average” drive to achieve was all it took.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/10/students-narcissistic-ease

From personal experience I can testify to the widespread “I deserve an A grade no matter what” attitude along with “I am paying for this so you better damn well give me my A” attitude; all of which is backed up by university managers who think if students get less than a B grade it is the fault of the academic running the course, as he or she ‘obviously’ didn’t teach the material well-enough.

As for the blatant forms of academic cheating under the ‘honor system’ at Princeton and the like it’s off the scale.

But that’s what an unjustified sense of entitlement gets you in the free-market of the US educational business. Students do not have to come up to the standards of their professors or the material presented, rather the latter has to descend to the ‘standards’ of the former - or else!

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Posted by DanielS on January 10, 2013, 07:47 AM | #

Auster never fails to point out it is white’s fault that they are in the plight they find themselves, he even says white’s are committing suicide by not resisting the forces responsible.  I find this is difficult to refute at face value, but I have seen defensive counter claims here at MR.

Yes, because it is only partly the fault of Whites. We also have enemies: Jewish elites and cultural patterns being chief among them

Just take a look at the media, you don’t have to look farther than Hollywood.

He also has no problem reaching for the A/S card when wishing to terminate criticism, which to me is just another form of political correctness, a tool to silence one’s opponent.  This is a fact, which throws confusion into the Laurance Auster intrigue.

It is not that Jews like Auster cannot assimilate and even articulate (sometimes even better) our problems. It is just that one should not depend upon even well meaning Jews to represent the best interests of Whites because they cannot represent what Jews imply for Whites with sufficient antipathy to be accurate.

Those Jews that do flip tend to be cartoonish, lacking a degree of sincerity in their critique:

..a Frank Collin, Brother Nathanial or Bobby Fisher.


As a nationalist, am I allowed to wish him well?

You hardly need our permission, Bill.


Speaking of “conservative” Jews, I’d like to dig up an audio I’ve heard of Michael Savage - it is unbelievable, the ferocious hatred with which he attacks one who has the nerve to say that we should not go to war with Iran…

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Posted by Graham_Lister on January 10, 2013, 08:02 AM | #

@Danny (re your comment #1)

Yes Americans don’t seemingly know what political ideologies actually are.

In that if liberty or individual ‘freedom’ is your highest political value then one is a liberal of some sort. I mean it could be viewed as one possible good amongst many but if it the political good above all others that’s liberalism. It might be a right-wing Hayekian sort but it’s still fucking liberalism.

Alas Mr. Beck and his friends little chit-chat demonstrate why Europeans might have some disdain for their ersatz simulacra in the land of the free.

Sadly it seems the only sensible Americans (the one’s not gnostically channelling Locke 24/7) are those that via personal experience, extensive education, reflection and so on have to some extent managed to de-Americanise themselves.

And what is the Constitution of the United States other than the cardinal holy relic in the political theology that is the American ideology? I’d love someone on American TV to dare say it’s not the totality of political life and indeed may be profoundly wrong in its underlying philosophical anthropology (or as we say at MR - its ‘ontology’).

But I doubt that such politically crippling fetishism (“the constitution oh my God what does the constitution say, I can’t think for myself…what does the constitution say?” forevermore) will ever be challenged. As if such a document is not deeply political rather than the apolitical ‘profound wisdom’ it is generally assumed to be.

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Posted by Graham_Lister on January 10, 2013, 08:22 AM | #

@Frontier spirit

I take it given your comments you have a very shallow understanding of human nature - and given your pseudonym perhaps you should read ‘Blood Meridian’ sometime? It’s about the American frontier. I think you would enjoy it.

No human institution is perfect including the state - does that mean its uniquely evil or that it cannot be put to better or worse uses? By what optimisation criterion do we judge it and in who’s interests? Oh no sorry that’s going off-topic.

It would an interesting thought-experiment to imagine a group of millions of people living in a complex modern social space without a state. Can a polis be a polis under such conditions?

Perhaps instead like Mr. Beck and his friend you prefer the minimalist night-watchman state?

I’d actually be even more radical on this and say the police should be run as a ‘for profit’ set of private contractors, and the military should be also run in this way - indeed in some ways it already is in America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_military_company). So why not expand this idea across the board? Government has always been the problem and never the solution.

The only truly just and proper state of affairs is to be found within market based relationships (with the contract above all as the only genuine model for human interaction) via its free-market mechanisms (all things can and should have a price and be for sale – nothing has instrinic value or cannot be evaluated in the ebb and flow of supply and demand). The unrestricted free-market is, after all, the only truly democratic institution we all can have and one’s expressed preferences within it the only real freedom to be found – especially if one expands the conceptualisation of the free-market to every sphere of life - ideas, life-styles, values, all inter-personal relationships and so on. Only individuals can really be free or lacking thereof, yes? Hence the centrality of individualistic negative liberty and nothing more.

Cynics shouldn’t consider the founded fathers as 4th rate Enlightenment liberals - no they grasped the essential nature of man. Their brilliant, but sadly implicit philosophical anthropology, is only to be admired. People like Carl Schmitt or Martin Heidegger are irrational buffoons to dare suggest otherwise. In fact wasn’t Fukuyama absolutely right by invoking Hegel in suggesting that the present liberal order - perhaps best illustrated by the USA as the home of liberty - is in fact the terminus of human history as such? America as the final resting place of Daesin on its wearisome journey – the end of historicity as such, in a way the end of politics as such too. Why? Because only the non-rational person to the outright fruitcake could disagree with the wisdom and goodness of the American way. Thus it is the height of historical rationality to be an American in both body and soul – even if one cannot be an America in the strict sense of the term.

Hegel thought the Prussian state of his era was the end-point of human history – our collective ne plus ultra. Silly man if only he could have seen America in all its glory!

Yes, ideally no state at all, but if we must it must be as minimal as possible. If as a by-product of such ‘correct theory’ plutocrats, corporate interests as so on massively benefit from such arrangements (via a radical but totally righteous and absolutist defence of their natural, God-given property rights) then that’s simply a fortuitous twist of fate. It’s not an ideology serving particular set of vested interests or particular social groups at all – no just damn good common sense.

Only leftists are greedy or avaricious creatures suffering from the malady of pleonexia. How dare the ordinary working man think his entitled to a fair-days pay for a fair days work, such that he can live with a modest dignity and some semblance of security? He’s only worth what the free-market evaluates his labour to be worth – anything else is an outrageous offence to justice. We all know Mr. Beck is certainly worth millions of dollars for his labours. Let alone the biggest (unwitting) altruists on this planet (or any other). The boys and girls of Wall Street of every origin (yes whites work there too along with the J-lizards) – these ‘masters of the universe’ in no way exhibit ruthless self-seeking behaviour, nor manifest an arrogant assumption that others (and basically everything one can think of) exist only for their own benefit, to be maximally exploited to the point of collapse, now do they?

Now onto a related subject – again oh ‘spirit of the frontier’ can you perhaps tell me where various nations rank with regard to a range of health outcomes and morbidities - things like infant mortality or type 2 diabetes? Or even educational achievement, feelings of self-defined well-being, happiness and the like? Or on per capita illegal drugs use? Or per capita prescriptions of various types of powerful psychoactive medication? You know kinda of those things that have some connection with what we might call ‘quality of life’ issues.

Then again maybe being the fattest nation in the history of humanity is great public policy achievement or public good – or wait sorry there I go with my statist crap - the public good - now that’s only a mythology to steal money from you and nothing more. As a sovereign individual you’re always the best judge of which wholesome McDonald’s product one might eat. If it’s 10 Big Macs on daily basis that’s OK – what’s right for one person isn’t right for everyone and vice-versa. That’s freedom get over it – do we really need to go over the robustness of Mill’s harm principle yet again? In fact, shouldn’t McDonald’s and other great companies in the same ‘food’ sector provide all the catering in every public school? Oh wait sorry schools themselves should be private and charge the market rate for their services. And it’s up to parents, as consumers, if they even educate their children via such businesses – there’s no right or wrong answer to such dilemmas. OK where did I put that ‘creation science’ textbook again?

Now those bastard commies from the CIA (with their so-called facts) don’t say the USA is overwhelming the best in those previous items I listed – well except perhaps in consuming illegal and legal mind-altering substances (if being be being the best means taking the most) - I can only speculate about why the CIA produce such so called ‘factbooks’ – nothing but anti-American propaganda if you ask me. Still massive drug use (at every level of society) isn’t actually a sign of either individual nor a wider societal unhappiness – are you fucking kidding? Doing coke, crystal meth, oxycontin, sertraline et al., on such a scale means you’re all massively happy (because if for no other reason you’re all ‘high’, nearly all the time).

It just like how alcoholics are really contented people too – not deeply unhappy people blocking out painful realities. Only a socialist of the very worst type would suggest such individually instantiated behaviours are somewhat indicative of deeper collective or social pathologies (shit - so sorry I mentioned one of those evil ‘c’ words again – forgive me dear reader). Fuck those douche-bags at the CIA with their ‘world factbook’ because Americans know in their hearts (and their guts – they do a lot of thinking with their alimentary canal) that they live in best of all possible worlds. Eudaimonia is as American as apple pie.

The Platonic ideal-form of America is the real one and it’s seemingly less than stellar actually existing reality is in truth the illusion, yes?

P.S. isn’t Michael Savage some sort of comedy act? No-one can possibly take him very seriously can they?

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Posted by DanielS on January 10, 2013, 08:52 AM | #

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Posted by Graham_Lister on January 10, 2013, 08:02 AM | #

@Danny (re your comment #1)

Yes Americans don’t seemingly know what political ideologies actually are.

Well, they have been told that being conservative means being conservative of the Constitution. But they have not been in position to complain, let alone challenge the Constitution itself as being profoundly liberal.

It can even be illegal. Military officers swear to defend it, as does the President when sworn into office and the Supreme Court Justices (9 of the most powerful people on earth), etc.

That is, it can be every-bit as intimidating and dangerous to challenge as Jewish interests. Necessary, though those challenges are.

As for Americans overrating themselves, and expecting their conceit to be confirmed, I don’t doubt it: however, I would look to the rules which require over-achievement, “actualization” and devalue the ordinary. This might have them demanding over-valuation of their accomplishments and not being satisfied with their ordinary reconstructions.

A factor contributing to the American rule structure, its situation where accountability is less manageable, where accurate autobiography is harder to achieve, is that Women’s admiration of confidence in men will probably become even more required as a rule.

This exaggerated confidence would be rightly offensive to someone like you as confidence can, at times, be at distinct odds with sufficient intellectualism.

On the other hand, for this rule structure, which values individual distinction, compassion has been exaggerated as well.

This has been taken advantage of, no doubt, by Jewish interests, to eradicate the rules of group interests for Whites. What their academics and media are having people call the “left” is an idea of calling people outside or antagonistic to White group interests as being “marginals” rather than calling those Whites within White groups but toward the margins, as marginals.

Having compassion for Whites on the margin within our groups would be an appropriate White leftist consideration. But the Jewish perversion has taken that natural compassion and perverted it to be extended to non-Whites: really, a hyper-liberalism made so graphic in this conversation.

At the same time, what they are calling “conservative” are people who conserve the Constitution - this conversation presents it as the only common ground of the “We.”

Hence, what they are calling conservative and progressive amount to the same thing.

 

 

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Posted by DanielS on January 10, 2013, 09:29 AM | #

P.S. isn’t Michael Savage some sort of comedy act? No-one can possibly take him very seriously can they?

The particular audio that I have in mind isn’t even funny - it is Israeli war-mongering chutzpah on steroids.

3:37, really worth listening to - Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Xh23yKhoo


...now, comedy acts: Glenn Beck, Jimmy Swaggart,


John Hagee….isn’t exactly funny either..

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Posted by Thorn on January 10, 2013, 09:35 AM | #

Auster is an American conservative and a Jew, are they mutually exclusive?  Can’t be.  Can they?

I don’t think they’re mutually exclusive, even though approximately 3 out of 4 Jews are leftists to varying degrees.

As far as I know Auster never hides or denies what he is.  I’ve read here at MR that Auster’s default position is, he thinks himself first and foremost a Jew.

I’ve no problem with a Jew (a convert to Christianity in Auster’s case) identifying and doing what is necessary to protect Jews. However if they maliciously cross the line and harm white interests in the process, then it’s fightin’ time. That said,I can’t see where LA does that. On the whole, I see him as a force for good. Anyway, I always try to maintain an aesthetic distance while reading blogs. I pick and chose what is useful and discard the rest.

Auster never fails to point out it is white’s fault that they are in the plight they find themselves, he even says white’s are committing suicide by not resisting the forces responsible.  I find this is difficult to refute at face value, but I have seen defensive counter claims here at MR

I agree with Auster on that account, however he includes white Jews in the aggregate in his overall blame of whites. And yes, there is a significant segment of Jews that are openly hostile to Euro-Christians. They’veo successfully woven the anti-White
/anti-Christian meme into our culture via the Jew controlled media and public education. Moreover, as we know, politics follows culture; hence, we in AmeriKWA get Republicans that are politically correct right leaning liberals at best countered by the racial-socialists of the Democrat party. I see the same thing happening in England.

 

I for one would miss his daily musings if anything should happen to him.

Agree.

 


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Posted by Thorn the mediocre on January 10, 2013, 10:14 AM | #

“he includes white Jews in the aggregate”

Uh oh. I know can get into trouble for saying that. But I cant help myself. When I see Jews as depicted in the link Hymie from Aflua posted in the Husserl, Heidegger & Modern Existentialism entry http://www.wbur.org/npr/168457444/on-multiple-fronts-russian-jews-reshape-israel  What I’m looking at is a couple of white chicks.

There’s even a copy of Botticelli’s Birth of Venus hanging on the wall!

 

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Posted by DanielS on January 10, 2013, 11:08 AM | #

/.......
It is unfortunate that in addition to the fact that many of them may be good looking of their own distinct genotype, Jewish women have also hijacked the genes of Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Poles (I understand that they have many whore houses in Israel which feature Eastern European women), Germans, Italians, English..etc…so, some of them will be very good looking, and even in good looking in a White way, but Jews are Jews nevertheless, indifferent or antagonistic to White interests as a distinct pattern.


Are you going to see these women doggedly advocating White, nativist interests?


When you find out that they will not and if you care about yourself and your people, you begin rather, to view them as alien.

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Posted by Thorn on January 10, 2013, 03:37 PM | #

If I were to be so bold as to hazard a guess, I’d say I don’t think Mz Mercer (or Alex Jones) cares very much for the “elites” Jolly Old England is producing these days - particularly the ones being exported to the U.S. of A.  heh!

(I know the following will solicit the usual reaction and comments that will assert Piers Morgan and Martin Bashir are only doing the bidding of their Jewish masters.)

But this is good!

——

UPDATED: The Evil Emissaries From The Fabian F-ck-Up That Is Britain (Jones’ Fanaticism For … Freedom)


The Fabian fuck-up that is Britain has exported its evil emissaries to the US. These are self-appointed elites–for Piers Morgan and Martin Bashir are not what Thomas Jefferson considered the natural aristocracy, but what he called “an artificial aristocracy… without either virtue or talents.”
These British pillocks have already helped spearhead efforts in the crap country of England—where “a child is torn from the arms of a mother if the mother is obese or holds opinions unpalatable to her political and psychiatric masters”—the outcome of which is that mothers like Mrs. D. Herman (story below) are deprived of the natural right of self-defense.

From their respective public perches, Morgan and Bashir are currently suborning the same treason against our countrymen.

Via CNN’s excellent transcript service:

Donnie Herman was on the phone with his wife as an intruder was breaking into their home. Walton County Sheriff’s deputies say the mother works from the home on Henderson Ridge Drive. Her 9-year-old twins didn’t have school. Around noon, a strange man arrived at the door. Deputies say he began continuously ringing bell. When no one responded, he grabbed a crowbar from his truck. He pried his way in. That’s when the mother grabbed her kids, her gun, and hid in a crawl space.

SHERIFF JOE CHAPMAN, WALTON COUNTY, GEORGIA: The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time, he’s staring at her, her two children, and a .38 revolver.
CAVANAUGH: Sheriff Joe Chapman says the woman began firing all six rounds, hitting the suspect in the face and neck five times.

CHAPMAN: She starts yelling at him, stay down or I’m going to shoot you again. That’s when she gets her two children out of the crawl space, and they run downstairs and run out of the house to a neighbor next door.

CAVANAUGH: They ran next door, and the man took off in his truck. Sheriff Chapman says 32-year-old Paul Slater crashed up the road. Deputies found him on the ground. Chapman said he told the deputies, help me, I’m close to dying. The mother and her children were not harmed.

CHAPMAN: We’re in the neighborhood where several law enforcement officers lived, and I don’t think they could have handled the situation any better than what she did.
HERMAN: Her lives are saved, and her kids lives are saved. That’s all I’d like to say.


Having helped disarm ordinary mothers back in their own crap country, this white trash has washed up on our shores with similar intentions.

As a rationalist, I am not a conspiracy theorist. But some disagreement (among patriots) does nothing to undermine my assessment of Alex Jones. Here is what this great American patriot told the insufferably pompous Piers (the performance art that is Jones is worth watching):

“You’re a foreigner, a Redcoat, here telling us what to do. Go back where they took the guns if you don’t like it. [To] the communist [country that is the UK] … The republic will rise again. 1776 will commence again if you try and take our guns away.”

Here is the complete transcript for your enjoyment:

http://barelyablog.com/the-evil-emissaries-from-the-fabian-f-ck-up-that-is-britain/

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Posted by DanielS on January 11, 2013, 12:45 AM | #

Posted by Thorn on January 10, 2013, 03:37 PM | #

If I were to be so bold as to hazard a guess, I’d say I don’t think Mz Mercer (or Alex Jones) cares very much for the “elites” Jolly Old England is producing these days - particularly the ones being exported to the U.S. of A.  heh!

(I know the following will solicit the usual reaction and comments that will assert Piers Morgan and Martin Bashir are only doing the bidding of their Jewish masters.)

But this is good!


It is good, because it provides an opportunity to point out the fact that Jewish antagonism does not only stem from the directives of their elites but also emanates from a depth of their genetic patterns.

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Posted by Bill on January 11, 2013, 03:25 AM | #

@ 8

Looks like Justin Raimondo of Anti-War reads MR, for in today’s piece he gives me a comprehensive reply to my question @ 8.

The Hagel appointment is one indication of this new direction in our foreign policy. Hagel’s position as one of the leading Republican “realists” is well-known. He is a part of the same group which was briefly known as the Committee for the Republic – Brent Scowcroft, Richard Armitage, C. Boyden Gray, and, and other old foreign policy hands from the days of Bush Senior – which is in loose alliance with Democratic foreign policy honchos like Zbigniew Brzezinski and Lee Hamilton. They aren’t anti-interventionists, but rather cautious internationalists, as John Judis explains here: they are, however, our invaluable allies in the present context. What they seek, after the madness of the Bush Doctrine, is to impose some sense of limits on a dangerously over-extended empire, in order to redirect our resources to the project of “nation-building” at home, rather than in the wilds of Central Asia.

They are, in short, tired of the neocons and their continued dominance in determining the foreign policy consensus in Washington, and they have mounted – in league with the President – an ambitious campaign to get rid of them once and for all. Hagel is their man, and his views – a reluctance to engage in military action, a willingness to engage our traditional enemies, and a desire to draw the thorn from the festering wound of the Middle East and finally settle the Palestinian question – reflect the emerging policy consensus, the “new normal” of what Brezinski calls the “post-imperial” era.

I would have thought this was good news for most Americans.

Here’s the Alex Jones vs Pierce Morgan Roadshow.  Guns a-blazing.

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sugexp=les;&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&cp=30&gs_id=1ab&xhr=t&q=Alex+vs+Pierce+morgan+youtube&pf=p&tbo=d&biw=933&bih=464&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Alex+vs+Pierce+morgan+youtube+&gs;_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1357700187,d.d2k&fp=95a43a51ffe8381b

Read whole article

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2013/01/10/hagel-nomination-the-revenge-of-the-realists/

 

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Posted by DanielS on January 11, 2013, 03:57 AM | #

In league with the President – an ambitious campaign to get rid of them once and for all. Hagel is their man, and his views – a reluctance to engage in military action, a willingness to engage our traditional enemies, and a desire to draw the thorn from the festering wound of the Middle East and finally settle the Palestinian question – reflect the emerging policy consensus, the “new normal” of what Brezinski calls the “post-imperial” era.


This isn’t good news for Americans or anybody: it is just the flip side of the same coin.

Now they are going to pretend to be the level headed doves, who turn to healing matters at home.

“to impose some sense of limits on a dangerously over-extended empire, in order to redirect our resources to the project of “nation-building” at home, rather than in the wilds of Central Asia”

What this means is that now that they have brought in droves of non-White immigrants and farther prohibited discrimination against them, they want to make sure that you are integrated with them by being miscegenated to death. That is the “consensus” (the result of the demographic that they’ve orchestrated) and the “new normal.”..(the bi-product of their forced integration).

The Democrats and Republicans have been playing this game since I can remember: The Democrats impose bleeding heart liberalism, forcing non-Whites upon Whites and then you get the Republican tough guy routine, that we are really all the same, American, and anybody who complains is a wuss.

“a willingness to engage our traditional enemies”

translation

“our” ? Jews + Blacks + liberal Whites

“traditional enemies”: powerful White nations - especially, Russia (this would be a particular disposition of Obama’s mentor, Brzezinski)

“draw the thorn from the festering wound of the Middle East”

I.e., same old same old - making Israel’s problems the problems of everyone and having The U.S. and The EU pay for it with money and blood.

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Posted by Thorn on January 11, 2013, 09:09 AM | #

From Justin Raimondo’s article Bill linked to @ 31

“Powell felt Cheney and his allies – his chief aide, I. Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz and Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith and what Powell called Feith’s ‘Gestapo’ office – had established what amounted to a separate government.”

A few scant months after 9/11, having decided on invading Iraq….

Uh…... I seem to recall around 1990 it was Bush the Elder along with his affirmative action sidekick, General Rectum Powell, that sent Ambassador April Glaspie to do their dirty work by giveing Saddam Hussein’s request to invade Kuait a nod and a wink. That’s when the major cluster-fuck started….... long before Bush the Younger and the neocons made the situation much worse…...

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Posted by Thorn on January 11, 2013, 09:56 AM | #

CNN’s Pompous Piers “the Pillock” Morgan Slams Down Constitution, Calls It ‘Your Little Book’

Transcript of interview:

PIERS MORGAN, CNN HOST: My next guest has strong words for me. He says I’m off the rails on guns in America. Ben Shapiro is editor-at-large at Breitbart.com and the author of “Bullies: How the Left’s Culture of Fear and Intimidation Silences Americans.” So, why am I off the rails, Mr. Shapiro?

BEN SHAPIRO, EDITOR BREITBART.COM: You know, honestly Piers, you have kind of been a bully on this issue, because what you do, and I’ve seen it repeatedly on your show. I watch your show. And I’ve seen it repeatedly. What you tend to do is you tend to demonize people who differ from you politically by standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook saying they don’t seem to care enough about the dead kids. If they cared more about the dead kids, they would agree with you on policy. I think we can have a rational, political conversation about balancing rights and risks and rewards of all of these different policies, but I don’t think that what we need to do is demonize people on the other side as being unfeeling about what happened at Sandy Hook.

MORGAN: How dare you accuse me of standing on the graves of the children that died there. How dare you.

SHAPIRO: I’ve seen you do it repeatedly, Piers.

MORGAN: Like I say, how dare you.

{snip}

Watch video and or read more >>

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/01/10/CNNs-Morgan-Slams-Down-Constitution-Calls-It-Your-Little-Book

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Posted by Bill on January 11, 2013, 10:09 AM | #

Either or…. there is a power beyond our elected representatives.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/2765041.stm

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Posted by Thorn on January 11, 2013, 01:53 PM | #

Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

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Posted by Thorn on January 11, 2013, 01:59 PM | #

The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy


by John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt


http://www.antiwar.com/orig/mearwalt.php?articleid=9573

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Posted by James Bowery on January 11, 2013, 05:27 PM | #

I know Mormons who think Glenn Beck should be executed for treason and that he’s most likely a paid agent whose job it is to neutralize Constitutionalist Mormons.

Oh, and GL misspelled “Kwa” in the title.

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Posted by James Bowery on January 11, 2013, 05:37 PM | #

The Spirit of England


God Save the Queen

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Posted by Thorn on January 12, 2013, 09:25 AM | #

“P.S. isn’t Michael Savage some sort of comedy act? No-one can possibly take him very seriously can they?”

Haven’t you heard?: The British elites take his “comedy act” so seriously they banned him from entering Britain ever again.

What are they so afraid of? Him telling the truth?

It’s a given Michael Savage is first and foremost looking out for the best interest of jews. That said, he is by far the most UN-politically correct radio talk show host AmeriKwa has to offer. His core message of Borders, Language and Culture isn’t exactly the same as that of WN, but it comes pretty close; as close as you’re going to get from a corporate sponsored media personality.

Radio host Michael Savage calls for ‘Nationalist’ third party to challenge GOP

Conservative radio host Michael Savage spoke out against Republicans and Democrats alike on Sunday for pulling a “charade” on the American people, and called for a third political party.

“We need a Nationalist party in the United States of America,” Savage said on WABC’s “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio,” according to WND.

The third-most widely heard talk show host, behind only Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity in ratings, explained a new, third “Nationalist” party could focus on “borders, language and culture.”

“There is no Republican Party,” Savage told talk show host Aaron Klein. “It’s an appendage of the Democrat machine, as we’ve all just seen. It’s two-card Monte, as we well know. It’s a game being played against the American people. You’ve got the drunk Boehner on the one side, and the quasi-pseudo-crypto Marxist on the other, who is really just enjoying the ride in Hawaii right now, representing his factions.”

Read more and Hear Michael Savage’s interview with Aaron Klein:>>

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/01/michael_savage_nationalist_party_challenge_republicans_radio.html

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Posted by DanielS on January 12, 2013, 10:41 AM | #

Thorn, no thanks to your spamming endorsements of all too obvious false opposition.

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Posted by Suburban_elk on January 12, 2013, 12:44 PM | #

Elton resolved questions in his music.

The certain whatever in his face, overlook.

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Posted by Suburban_elk on January 12, 2013, 12:52 PM | #

He switched keys like a madman.

He is the spirit of England, like the Beatles.

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Posted by Thorn the mediocre on January 12, 2013, 01:06 PM | #

Found this piece over at American Renaissance (aka “Controlled Opposition Central”). LOL!

Immigration Reform in 2013? It Has a Champion in Corporate America

David Grant, Christian Science Monitor, January 10, 2013

 


“Corporate America’s top lobbyist Thursday laid out a slew of the business community’s top goals for the year—lower regulation, increased trade, booming energy production, and a fix to the nation’s fiscal situation.

But US Chamber of Commerce President Tom Donohue was particularly bullish, and at times passionate, on another long-sought goal, one not often associated with the conservative-leaning group: immigration reform.

“I have an optimistic feeling about this,” Mr. Donohue told reporters after his annual State of American Business speech. “Before, everybody talked about it, everybody understood the issues, but there wasn’t an energy behind it and I think there is a bipartisan group of people—we haven’t got everybody, that’s for sure—but I feel positive about it and look forward to [immigration reform] this year.”

The Chamber has been a firm advocate for immigration reform, an issue more closely identified with liberal advocates, for many years, including its support for 2006 legislation that stalled in the Republican-controlled House of Representatives.

Donohue said his conversations with lawmakers from both parties on Capitol Hill make him optimistic for a solution in 2013. He also noted that the Chamber is working with groups ranging from faith organizations to law enforcement to labor unions including the nation’s largest—and staunchly progressive—labor group, the AFL-CIO, to forge a broad political coalition to support an immigration reform effort.”

Read more>>


http://www.amren.com/news/2013/01/immigration-reform-in-2013-it-has-a-champion-in-corporate-america/

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Posted by Thorn on January 12, 2013, 01:20 PM | #

Danny,

If you don’t care for Michael Savage (aka Teddy’s lover) then you can always opt for David Duke on Rense radio or the Derek and Don Black Show on WPBR AM.

BTW, it was a Jew by the name of Dick Farrel that made it possible for Derrick and Don Black to get their time slot at that station. True story.

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Posted by Thorn on January 12, 2013, 02:05 PM | #

He is the spirit of England, like the Beatles.

During the late 60s and early 70s (not the early 60s to mid 60s), the Beatles were as much of a corrosive influence on Western Civ as Rap is today. Actually more-so. The Beatles were an extremely influential force in promoting the bizarro hippie/drug culture that, in turn, had the same ill effect on Whites’ racial conscious as eating beef contaminated with E. coli has on the body.

 

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Posted by DanielS on January 12, 2013, 02:29 PM | #

///
My siblings and I were quite influenced by the Beatles when we were kids. I wanted to be named George.

The music was great.

However, in re-watching A Hard Days Night as an adult, I did notice that the politics and culture that it promoted left much to be desired.

Examples:

George smugly disparages a girl who espouses conservative politics as “a drag.”

In another scene a war veteran is mocked as one not worthy of respect and consideration.

Ringo is told that he is wasting his time reading a book.


The overall tone in this film was surprisingly nasty and sarcastic - its “cool” to be a liberal and disrespectful of the older generation.

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Posted by Thorn on January 12, 2013, 03:15 PM | #

I think the messages contained in rock music back during the late 60s and early 70s were as morally debased as anything that comes out of the entertainment sewer pipe today.

Yeah, I really got off on the music back then too. But in retrospect, I have a much different reaction. I hadn’t a clue back in my youth how the culture was being undermined, subverted, and perverted by Cultural Marxism… and how rock music was playing a central role.

A few examples:

Lou Reed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wNknGIKkoA

MC Five http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cg0qJ-ieRk

CSN&Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5IVuN1N6-Y

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Posted by Thorn on January 12, 2013, 03:43 PM | #

One last point:

At least this Negro, Johny Taylor, knows it’s fundamentally wrong to cheat on you spouse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RueCun_Bh8


Not so with Hippie scum CSN&Y. Instead they celebrate cheating. They package and sell it as a it virtue.

CSN&Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5IVuN1N6-Y

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Posted by DanielS on January 12, 2013, 03:59 PM | #

/..
It is important to remember that Jewish interests are adept at co-opting valid intellectual movements.

The Hippie protest against Viet Nam and on behalf of Being for White males, though not well articulated, was more than valid.


However, Jewish interests co-opted the legitimacy of the movement and interjected their politics as much as they could.


Lou Reed is Jewish.

The producer of CSNY was David Geffen - very Jewish.

Come to think of it, The Beatles manager was Jewish too.

I have not been familiar with the MC5; neither I, my siblings or friends paid any attention to them. If the name had been mentioned to me, I might have guessed they were a fifties do-wop group.

Looking at their wiki page, however, they do seem to have been bad news for Whites indeed - the worst kind of White traitors. I would be surprised if they were not mentored in some fundamental way by Jews. They certainly were, by the literature, if nothing else.

Again, it is important that we not let blame be laid on hippies because they did have these fundamental motives which we are still pursuing. To blame them is an easy misdirection for those not really concerned for Whites and wanting to divert attention away from Jews and even Right Wing destruction. Whereas hippies did have those very legitimate motives which did coincide with White Nationalist interests.

However, Jewish interests interjected Marxism (cultural or classic), Liberalism, Feminism, free love (Marcuse) and Black Civil Rights into the mix - all of these things were affectations, not an organic or authentic part of the White male motive to Be.

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Posted by bill on January 12, 2013, 04:12 PM | #

@ 48

Drugs, sex and rock ‘n’ roll….  We all live in a yellow submarine…. All together now…

The Beatles and the Aquarian Conspiracy

“People who are sentimental about the Beatles will find it hard to believe that they were pumped up and used by the Illuminati to introduce soft drugs among middle class American youth. They were also a vehicle for the introduction of mind control “trigger words” into everyday jargon. I recall very well when the Beatles made their debut on the American rock scene. Their sudden and explosive “popularity” in America made no sense to me at the time. I couldn’t understand what was so great about the Beatles and why they were portrayed as ‘threatening’ to the crown of the then King of Rock & Roll, Elvis Presley.

America, after all, was the birthplace of Rock & Roll, Allen Freed, and “do wop, do wop”. America alone could boast of the greatest names and groups in Rock & Roll- not Europe or Asia, and certainly not England. American Rock & Roll performers were the envy of world and were emulated and copied down to the smallest mannerism and detail by European and Asian youth. How is it that a bar band from Liverpool doing almost all American rock cover tunes like Chuck Berry songs would suddenly be blitzed across American media as the “greatest sensation to ever hit the shores of America”? Huh? Musically speaking, there was nothing “fabulous” about the “Fab Four”. They were a cover band; but that’s it! Yes, they had some decent hits after they took American “by storm” but NOT before. So how is it that they got to the top of Rock & Roll Mountain here in America without really climbing it? Simple, they were helicoptered up there by the Committee of 300 and the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations and no one is in a better position to tell you how it was done than the author of this article, Dr John Coleman”...Ken Adachi]

For loads more go to….

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/colemanbeatlesandAquarianConspiracy01mar07.shtml

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Posted by DanielS on January 12, 2013, 04:20 PM | #

Ridiculous.

The Beatles had many great, original songs. Their popularity was not strictly a result of hype.

To compare them to that embarrassment to Whites, Elvis Presley, is absurd.

Notice the claim that the Beatles were under the control of the “illuminati” and one should not be tempted to read further.

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Posted by Leon Haller on January 12, 2013, 08:27 PM | #

Rock ‘n roll was an inevitable but corrosive influence on Western culture, coinciding as it did with various other social and racial tensions. Anyway, that train has left the station forever.

Nationalists need as much as possible to build broad, anti-immigration coalitions. The more specific nationalists get wrt other political issues, the more they dilute their potential impact. Why do I have to keep explaining this? Granted, we all understand and oppose immigration, so only focusing on that problem would obviously be conversationally limiting. But injecting other concerns into what the public identifies as nationalism only makes it harder to keep everyone together and in line, moving towards the ultimate goal.

What issue is more important than ending foreign colonization? “Interrogating” historic liberalism - let alone “modern Being” -  is completely unnecessary to persuading people of the dire threat of immigration-driven white minoritization. That is, we don;t need to challenge people’s deepest moral or spiritual or even political economic beliefs in order to wake them up to mass immigration. We can argue against immigration from within hegemonic liberalism - and we must, as the tipping points are rapidly coming into view.

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Posted by DanielS. on January 12, 2013, 10:09 PM | #

let alone “modern Being”


The being of White men is crucial; it is a central matter and it’s focus will provide incentive for more men to participate; immigration is a denial of that being.

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Posted by DanielS on January 12, 2013, 10:21 PM | #

...as is identifying those responsible for immigration competely necessary

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Posted by Thorn on January 13, 2013, 09:59 AM | #

...as is identifying those responsible for immigration competely necessary

Completely agree.

Immigration Reform in 2013? It Has a Champion in Corporate America

http://www.amren.com/news/2013/01/immigration-reform-in-2013-it-has-a-champion-in-corporate-america/

 

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Posted by Thorn on January 13, 2013, 10:22 AM | #

Texan Plutocrats Nullify State Election, Protect Sanctuary Cities: Where Was Governor Perry?

By Patrick Cleburne on July 2, 2011 at 12:58pm


Things looked bright when the Texas Legislature convened this year. As a result of the 2010 election, the Republicans held a super majority in the State House (101-49) and were only one vote short in the State Senate (19-12). Democratic prospects were so bad some Hispanics switched to the Republican side (where they immediately began ethnic spoils-seeking).

Hopes were high for some meaningful action on immigration reform. It is desperately needed in Texas, where the Hispanic inundation is close to depriving Anglo Texans of their heritage by arrogant Reconquista and also plunging the state into the California abyss.

All this has crumbled into ashes, mainly it seems because of the treasonous activities of two enormously wealthy men - Bob Perryof homebuilder Perry Homes and Charles Butt of grocery chain H-E-B.
Read more>>

http://www.vdare.com/posts/texan-plutocrats-nullify-state-election-protect-sanctuary-cities-where-was-governor-perry

This same type of treason is ubiquitous within the Eurosphere

 

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Posted by Leon Haller on January 13, 2013, 12:22 PM | #

America is dead, it just doesn’t know it yet. We can and should delay the final death blow as much as we can, in order to give ourselves time for the real agenda: awakening the race pride of our people, and pushing for ingathering, secession, and sovereignty.

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Posted by Thorn on January 13, 2013, 01:18 PM | #

This BS

The most diverse cities and neighborhoods in America

plus this BS

Diversity produces culturally vibrant communities.


Equals the Kwa.

 

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Posted by chime on January 13, 2013, 03:59 PM | #

A celebration of the Spirit of Britain!

JIMMY SAVILE WAS PART OF SATANIC RING

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/370439/Jimmy-Savile-was-part-of-satanic-ring

JIMMY SAVILE beat and raped a 12-year-old girl during a secret satanic ritual in a hospital.

The perverted star wore a hooded robe and mask as he abused the terrifi ed victim in a candle-lit basement.

He also chanted “Hail Satan” in Latin as other paedophile devil worshippers joined in and assaulted the girl at Stoke Mandeville Hospital in Buckinghamshire. The attack, which happened in 1975, shines a sinister new light on the former DJ’s 54-year reign of terror.

Savile, who died aged 84 in October 2011, is now Britain’s worst sex offender after police revealed he preyed on at least 450 victims aged eight to 47.

The girl kept her torment hidden for nearly 20 years before finally opening up to therapist Valerie Sinason.

Dr Sinason told the Sunday Express she first spoke to the victim in 1992. “She had been a patient at Stoke Mandeville in 1975 when Savile was a regular visitor.

“She recalled being led into a room that was filled with candles on the lowest level of the hospital, somewhere that was not regularly used by staff. Several adults were there, including Jimmy Savile who, like the others, was wearing a robe and a mask.

“She recognised him because of his distinctive voice and the fact that his blond hair was protruding from the side of the mask. He was not the leader but he was seen as important because of his fame.

“She was molested, raped and beaten and heard words that sounded like ‘Ave Satanas’, a Latin­ised version of ‘Hail Satan’, being chanted. There was no mention of any other child being there and she cannot remember how long the attack lasted but she was left extremely frightened and shaken.”

Savile was a volunteer porter and fundraiser at the hospital between 1965 and 1988 and had his own quarters there.

Five years after the hospital attack, he abused a second victim during another black mass ceremony held at a house in a wealthy London street.

The woman was 21 at the time and was made to attend an orgy, which later took on a darker twist.

Dr Sinason, director of the Clinic for Dissociative Studies in London, said: “A second victim approached me in 1993. She said she had been ‘lent out’ as a supposedly consenting prostituted woman at a party in a London house in 1980.

“The first part of the evening started off with an orgy but half-way through some of the participants left.

“Along with other young women, the victim was shepherded to wait in another room before being brought back to find Savile in a master of ceremonies kind of role with a group wearing robes and masks. She too heard Latin chanting and instantly recognised satanist regalia.

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Posted by chime on January 13, 2013, 04:10 PM | #

Is this what Kubrick was hinting at in “Eyes Wide Shut”? Kubrick did live in England for many years. In fact, he lived in Hertfordshire, right next to Buckinghamshire. He probably got invited to these things.

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Posted by Graham_Lister on January 13, 2013, 05:29 PM | #

I’m busy formulating a decent response to GW and to something Leon said but in the meantime. . .has someone ‘disrespected’ British pop music? For shame!

Who could possibly anyone object to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpk8ym8iqWU

Speaking of NYC during my few years in America my then American girlfriend (of Polish origins) insisted that we go to NYC for a few days over the New Year period (and yes do the New Year’s Eve thing in Time Square). Well dear readers how can I describe my impression of NYC in a single word? Loathsome might do.

Having said that, due to attendance at a professional conference, I had the chance to spend a few days in Miami – which was a place that seems to ooze ‘sleaze’. I guess I’m not one of life’s exuberant hedonists.

P.S.

Saville and spirit of Britain - well for as long as I have been leaving comments at MR I have said again and again that Britain is the most culturally degraded nation in Western Europe, but in the wider context of ideology and cultural politics, Britain (in the global perspective) is a rather unimportant player - America clearly is far, far more important in that regard.

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Posted by chime on January 13, 2013, 06:51 PM | #

NYC isn’t much different from London. Both cities are generally grouped together as the world’s most “global” cities.

Miami used to be a sleepy WASP town half a century ago before the Jews, Cubans, and other Latin Americans took it over.

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Posted by Thorn on January 13, 2013, 07:32 PM | #

I had the chance to spend a few days in Miami – which was a place that seems to ooze ‘sleaze’.

We can safely assume, Dr.L is talking about fag saturated Miami Beach. Allot of Brits spend holiday there , BTW. (Ahem)

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Posted by Graham_Lister on January 13, 2013, 08:24 PM | #

Well it’s a good rule of thumb that if very large numbers of Brits holiday in a certain location avoid it at all costs.

As for Miami at least it has good weather - the place I then lived at that time was getting on for 100F colder than Miami so a week or so in sun was welcomed at least - offers of coke and whores etc., less so. But even after just a week it was a physical shock to return to the frozen mid-west.

And yes I know all about London - unless I have a very good reason to be in London I do not visit the place at all. To me it really is like foreign territory.

Indeed I much prefer the remoter parts of the Scottish Highlands or the ever lovely il bel paese - Italy - to restore some peace and serenity. On my last trip I finally managed to visit Venice - yes it was full of tourists (mostly non-Brits) but at least they all seemed to be moderately civilised ones. The only drunks I observed were a middle-aged, lower class English couple onboard a vaporetto at night.

But we are getting a bit off-topic.

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Posted by Leon Haller on January 13, 2013, 09:09 PM | #

My first thought was “Who the f—- is Jimmy Savile?” (although the name did very vaguely sound familiar). Now I’ve googled the man, and am just amazed. How does this happen? The Catholic Church abuse scandals at least took place among unknown persons, in the shadows, so to speak. This man seems to have been a national celebrity!

Strange commentary on humanity.

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Posted by DanielS on January 13, 2013, 09:23 PM | #

Cultural “refinement” from Britain - this is proof that the death penalty is valid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMnjF1O4eH0

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Posted by Thorn on January 13, 2013, 09:50 PM | #

Read it all, daniels. Especially take note about legitimate self defense.

PART THREE
LIFE IN CHRIST

SECTION TWO
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

CHAPTER TWO
“YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF”

ARTICLE 5
THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT


http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm

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Posted by DanielS on January 13, 2013, 09:59 PM | #

That isn’t true, it isn’t history, it’s just more astounding rubbish.

For those who care about the true way, here is some catechism - beautiful:

6/24/2012 JESUS WHO?

http://www.resist.com/2012insurgentradioarchive.html

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Posted by Thorn on January 13, 2013, 10:17 PM | #

For those who care about the true way, here is some catechism - beautiful:

6/24/2012 JESUS WHO?

http://www.resist.com/2012insurgentradioarchive.html

===

Tom Metzger is daniels god? LOL!

Tom Metzger… nunk nuck nuck

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Posted by Thorn on January 13, 2013, 10:23 PM | #

Correction

Tom Metzger : nyuk nyuk nyuk!

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Posted by DanielS. on January 13, 2013, 10:24 PM | #

Did I say Tom Metzger was my god, Thorn Blossom?

As for Christianity: it isn’t true, it isn’t history, it’s just more astounding rubbish.

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Posted by Thorn on January 13, 2013, 10:44 PM | #

As for Christianity: it isn’t true, it isn’t history, it’s just more astounding rubbish.

Yes, Christianity is rubbish compared to your unimpeachable Tom Metzger “truths”? LOL!

Quit while you’re behind, danny.

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Posted by DanielS on January 13, 2013, 11:04 PM | #

Did I say that Metzger was unimpeachable, Thornblossom?

I pointed toward and audio file - a lecture not by Metzger - which makes excellent cases that Christianity is quite impeachable:

6/24/2012 JESUS WHO?

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Posted by Desmond Jones on January 15, 2013, 03:07 AM | #

Muhammad Ali on BBC TV (1971)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvQPmW8tkZI&feature=player_embedded

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Posted by Leon Haller on January 15, 2013, 03:17 AM | #

Nationalists will never go anywhere unless they unify around some minimalist agenda. Attacking Christianity is guaranteed to ensure no progress. Ditto attacking capitalism. We don’t need intra-white division, but maximum comity. We should focus all of our ire on stopping nonwhite immigration. Once that has been done, we can shift to or at least debate other topics.

Why is this not mere commonsense?

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Posted by DanielS on January 15, 2013, 04:19 AM | #

Leon, how are Christians and the churches helping us to stop non-White immigration?

Whereas the ways that they are hurting us on that score are many.

For that reason alone we must protect ourselves against them in the main.

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Posted by Thorn on January 15, 2013, 09:46 AM | #

Post-modern liberalism, progressivism, modern-liberalism, radical liberalism, radical egalitarianism, radical individualism, “anti-racism”, cultural-Marxism, political correctness —whichever name you what to call it—is the ideological problem(s) that plague white people.

The confusion WRT Christianity comes in because many of those whom identify as Christians are first and foremost practitioners of what I listed in the first sentence.

That goes a long way in explaining why 54% of Americano Catholics voted for Obama (arguably the most notorious radical pro-abortion politician in the U.S.A. [amongst other blatantly anti-Catholic policies]) in 2008 and 51% voted for him in 2012.

Massive third world immigration is mainly due to corporations’ appetite for cheap labor. Practitioners of what I mentioned in the first sentence are the allies/foot soldiers that “unwittingly” fight the battle on behalf of corporations in breaking down all resistance in the white dispossession process.

 

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Posted by DanielS on January 15, 2013, 10:52 AM | #

The Spirit of America: Churches and liquor stores

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Posted by Suburban_elk on January 15, 2013, 06:05 PM | #

What Majority Rights Meant to me

the philosophy on ontology is difficult and obscure; but then why does it seem relevant; we are working with different means toward ends

the theme of the essay is, how ideas presented here and elsewhere, have given context to my life, the only prism there is

metaphors and criticism; the resolution is in leaving it alone

(cheers)

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Posted by Suburban_elk on January 15, 2013, 06:15 PM | #

it has bothered me that i called Elton and the Beatles the spirit of England. but what else, the pubs?

the metaphor of the Father quest; where is Arthur.

(only meta criticisms are in good faith.)

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Posted by Suburban_elk on January 15, 2013, 06:23 PM | #

Lennon had father issues; but he resolved existential questions in the nature of his being.

The nature of his being was reflective of peaceful times, though. So as a hero for these times, does not work.

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Posted by Suburban_elk on January 15, 2013, 06:48 PM | #

Arthur can be considered the wrong metaphor, for the father quest: his knights sought something else.

But it is the right metaphor, if understood that he is sought now, but his knights were looking somewhere else.

And it is generally thought of as in this second.

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Posted by Thorn on January 15, 2013, 09:11 PM | #

The Spirit of America: Churches and liquor stores

The mentalty of daniels: psychosis.

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Posted by DanielS. on January 15, 2013, 11:28 PM | #

If one would like to believe in psychosis, Christianity is a good place to search.

You might debate this with Ken Humphreys

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

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