The Swiss example

Posted by Benny on November 09, 2005, 07:14 AM | #

The Swiss system is still too far. The aim of any European nation is not only to preserve the cultural uniqueness of the nation but also the genetic uniqueness too. Only people of European descent who adopt Swiss culture and behaviour should be allowed citizenship. A black person from Africa or an Arab or Indian from Asia should be barred citizenship or permanent residenceship come what may.

Posted by Pericles on November 09, 2005, 07:51 AM | #

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4280462.stm

Last Updated: Sunday, 25 September 2005, 15:32 GMT 16:32 UK

Switzerland backs EU labour rules
People look at a poster backing a ‘Yes’ vote in the Swiss referendum on EU labour rules
First results show rural regions saying ‘No’, but urban areas saying ‘Yes’
Switzerland has voted in a nationwide referendum to open its job market to workers from the 10 newest European Union countries.

Fifty-six percent voted for the proposal, with 44% voting against, a clearer majority than expected.

The initiative is part of a series of deals between Switzerland and the EU.

The government and business leaders had urged a “yes” vote, but many Swiss said they feared losing their jobs to cheaper labour from eastern Europe.

Controversial move

The labour accord is part of a series of agreements approved by voters in 2000 between Switzerland and the then-15 nation EU.

It was meant to be extended automatically to new EU members, but opponents to the deal collected enough signatures to force a referendum on the issue.

Under the plans, citizens of eight Eastern European countries as well as Cyprus and Malta, will be able to travel and work freely in Switzerland.

Following the example of many full EU members, however, the Swiss will apply quotas on the numbers coming until 2011.

Swiss citizens will also be allowed to work and settle in the new EU countries.

Switzerland is not part of the EU, but the bloc is its main trading partner and the government has been seeking closer integration with Brussels.

In June, Swiss voters backed a plan to join a European passport-free zone.

Posted by Al Ross on November 09, 2005, 08:34 AM | #

Switzerland’s EU-loving liberal elites are constantly agitating for their country to surrender its independence and join the Union. It is just a matter of time before this happens. One of the reasons for Singapore’s success is that at independence,the fledgeling nation’s leader, Lee Kuan Yew, decided to make Switzerland his model for multicultural emulation. He decided that Britain,as perceived in the early Sixties, was too homogeneous to serve as a model for his country’s push from Third World to First.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 09, 2005, 10:03 AM | #

Benny’s comment is right.  What there have to be are some sort of official recognition of the fact that the place has a traditional race and some sort of official set of immigration guidelines for keeping the country’s immigration policy from undoing that traditional race by changing it into something else.  (If these countries’ bureaucracies are embarrassed to talk plainly and out-in-the-open about race they can contact me—I’ll write their policy positions for them for free, and they’ll be both perfect and perfectly inoffensive:  I hereby volunteer my services .) 

The best policies are Japan’s and Israel’s:  no demographically-alien immigration.  The fact is every population can reproduce itself quite nicely and easily indeed, thank you very much, if government will only step out of the way of its doing exactly that.  Get government off the backs of young couples who are trying to form and trying to found families, and you’ll see quite healthy birth rates, make no mistake. 

If for some reason Switzerland feels it must take in non-Swiss it should limit them to closely-kindred peoples such as Liechtensteiners, Austrians, Germans, Northern Italians, and Eastern French.  Under no circumstances should it let far-flung, totally unrelated races such as North Africans, Orientals, or Sub-Saharans become citizens.  That’s a recipe for self-liquidation.  Switzerland is a tiny country of about, what—five million?  Race-replacers like Bill Clinton, George Bush, Morris Disease, Abe Foxman, or the race-replacers in the Vatican Court could have it race-replaced in about five minutes if given free-rein.  (Some of them are probably chomping at the bit to race-replace Switzerland right now.) 

Needless to add, the difference between, on the one hand, race-replacers who are into replacing races out of pure leftism, such as Bill & Hillary Clinton and Noam Chomsky, and ones who’re into it out of a combination of Tranzism and leftism, such as Jacques Chirac, George Bush, Ted Turner, Warren Buffett, and Bill Gates—the difference between all these on the one hand, and on the other hand, race-replacers who are into it out of JN (Jewish Nationalism) such as Max Boot, David Frum, Ben Wattenberg, Bill Kristol, this Aronowitz character in London, and Abe Foxman is of course the former are dying to replace everyplace’s race including Israel’s and are more than willing to destroy every racial group including Jews, while the latter want to replace everyplace’s race but Israel’s and are willing to destroy every racial group but Jews, and they want all that and are willing to do all that because according to them it would be “Good for the Jews”—it’s called getting rid of rivals and of people you just plain don’t like.  So theirs is an especially odious form of race-replacement advocacy—if any form can be said to be worse than any other form, admittedly debatable. 

People, incidentally, who don’t want to replace anyone’s race, be it their own, Israel’s, or anyone else’s—people like Professor Paul Gottfried, Peter Brimelow, Filip Dewinter, Lawrence Auster, Guessedworker, Jim Kalb, the anonymous Jew who runs

, and this Bengali “Amman” who posts comments at this site—are among the best people on the face of the earth.

Posted by Kubilai on November 09, 2005, 10:13 AM | #

Let’s look at this logically JJR, shall we?  From your link…

Swiss citizenship (that is, having a Swiss passport) can be acquired (1) through birth from Swiss parents, or (2) through a procedure known as naturalization. Children born in Switzerland from non-Swiss parents do not automatically become Swiss.

The canton and municipality of residence can add further conditions and set the cost of acquiring citizenship before approving it. Conditions vary greatly from one region to the next. Some municipalities apply rather open policies, while others will go as far as granting nationality by means of a local population vote. Cost also varies according to municipality and canton.

Looking at this from an adult perspective instead of a gullible perspective, the hurdles placed for naturalization are quite immense.  The length of residence is huge, the criteria are subjective, and after meeting the criteria, one has to get FURTHER approval or even a vote from the municipality.  Hell, they even have an unpleasant sounding place to apply, the “Alien Police”.  LOL Yes, they have a process to become Swiss.  A process heavily stacked AGAINST anyone becoming Swiss.  Smoke and mirrors, Johnny Jay.  Though I agree with poster above who said that this too is too much.  For me, I would have stopped at this…

Swiss citizenship (that is, having a Swiss passport) can be acquired through birth from Swiss parents, ONLY!  Everyone else, get lost.

Saves on costs, you know.

Posted by Svigor on November 09, 2005, 01:13 PM | #

Here’s the model of the cognitive elitists (race-replacers by another name):

White populations must pursue cognitively elitist immigration policy (CEIP), i.e., allow the best and brightest non-whites into their living space.

White populations, in general, outperform non-white populations and so will constitute a perennial destination for non-white immigration.

Non-white populations will, meanwhile, disallow CEIP whether through policy or through their own nature (e.g., sub-Saharan Africans will never form societies attractive to whites and so need no relevant policy).

Thus, via an array of nature and nurture and accident and intent, one-way gene flow will be pursued wherein the whole world becomes non-white.

Eventually whatever the white races bring to the table of human civilization will be lost unless they explicitly set out to preserve their ancestry.

Cognitive elitism is a slower, more reasonable-sounding version of race-replacement.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 09, 2005, 01:34 PM | #

“For me, I would have stopped at this… ‘Swiss citizenship (that is, having a Swiss passport) can be acquired through birth from Swiss parents, ONLY!  Everyone else, get lost.’ “  (—Kubilai)

That’s right where I would’ve stopped too, Kub:  ditto!
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Moratorium-plus-Repatriation!  [that’s going to be my signature slogan from now on]

Posted by Sir Horton St. Ormer on November 09, 2005, 04:15 PM | #

“array of nature and nurture and accident and intent”

Rather than “array”, one might have chosen “congeries”. But one quibbles.

Sir Horton St. Ormer

Posted by Steve Edwards on November 09, 2005, 04:41 PM | #

Fred - may I also add Don Feder (hard-line Jewish conservative) to your list? He seems to be fairly solid on the overthrow-the-ethnic-majority-of-America-because-it’s-good-for-me issue. Joseph Farah, who I think is an Arab, also seems to be fairly sensible.

Posted by Svigor on November 09, 2005, 05:20 PM | #

Rather than “array”, one might have chosen “congeries”. But one quibbles.

Well, thanks for the new word, maybe next time I will (thanks to GW for another new one, “rumbustuous”).

Posted by Al Ross on November 09, 2005, 07:03 PM | #

Perhaps it is merely coincidence that the emergence of a number of Jewish self-styled ‘conservatives’ occurred as the realisation that America’s Muslim population was increasing alarmingly hit home. Contemporaneously there arose the Jewish fear that the Mexicans, who already form the country’s second largest minority ,will not share America’s official veneration of Jews and this causes concern as Mestizo electoral numbers grow.

Posted by Lurker on November 09, 2005, 07:26 PM | #

The problem for jews would be that all these new arrivals dont know and dont care about the difference between Woody Allen and Woody Harrelson, they all look like rich white folks to them. (Dont know now if I read & absorbed that from somewhere or thought of it myself).

Succes for jews in the west is at least partly due to maintaining group identity while passing as members of the wider population. In the multi-ethnic future they will be just one group amongst many, albeit a capable one, but they will have given up one great advantage. Maybe they are beginning to notice that?

Posted by Fred Scrooby on November 09, 2005, 11:44 PM | #

“Fred - may I also add Don Feder (hard-line Jewish conservative) to your list?”  (—Steve Edwards)

Steve, thanks, yes of course.  Jews who question the current U.S. government policy of forcibly replacing of the U.S.‘s Euro Christians with non-whites include Feder, Ilana Mercer, this man Michael Savage apparently (whose radio show I’ve heard only five minutes, and whose book I haven’t read, but that’s his reputation if I’m not mistaken), possibly Matt Drudge (though if I’m right he keeps it more or less to himself, only rarely speaking up on the issue), and a small handful of other members of the diaspora Jewish tribe.  There used to be a regular columnist at NewsMax.com named Norman Liebmann, a Jewish retired Hollywood movie-and-television screenwriter and producer, who, unless I’m mistaken, was in this group.  I know nothing about Prof. Michael Levin aside from having read a few discussions of his book—I don’t know if he questions the current federal government policy of forced race-replacement of whites (the fact he wrote that book, “Why Race Matters,” doesn’t necessarily mean he questions the policy).  Jewish radio host Barry Farber may be a member of this group—I’m not certain.  (He must be getting quite along in years now ...)  Professor Paul Gottfried and Lawrence Auster (who is of Jewish backgound) are in it, of course.  As I mentioned, the anonymous Jew who runs

is definitely a member:  you can see that clearly from his writings at that site.  So yes, there’s a handful of ones out there who are public, semi-public, or influential in some way, but it’s comparatively microscopic. 

Joseph Farah (who’s of Arab Christian family backgound) certainly opposes mass unregulated immigration.  Whether he opposes race-replacement or not, I don’t know.  The two are not the same:  you can oppose one and not the other.  Richard Poe, for example (who incidentally is Catholic, of mixed Russian-Jewish and Mexican-Catholic parentage), opposes unregulated mass immigration but as nearly as I can judge (and I think I know his writings pretty well, having read all of his columns and blog entries for a couple of years plus other stuff of his, and been a regular at his site’s forum) does not oppose what I refer to as race-replacement.  David Horowitz has begun taking more of a position against mass unregulated immigration recently, but my understanding of the man is that he does not oppose race-replacement.   

“In the multi-ethnic future they will be just one group amongst many, albeit a capable one, but they will have given up one great advantage. Maybe they are beginning to notice that?”  (—Lurker)

I don’t see signs they are at all—not the Jewish leadership, movers & shakers, and so on.  The task lying before Euros who oppose race-replacement of whites will be shouldered by Euros alone (and the evidence is they are starting to shoulder it).  They are going to get no help from Jews beyond the contribution of the extremely tiny fraction of clear-sighted, straight-thinking, non-Euro-Christian-phobic Jews such as the ones cited above—which is deeply appreciated, of course.
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Moratorium-plus-Repatriation!

Posted by Steve Edwards on November 10, 2005, 02:15 AM | #

If I had to take a guess, I’d say Joseph Farah is probably against race replacement and illegal immigration. I haven’t seen him explicitly call for the end of the former, but I suppose nobody has brought up the question with him. However, if somebody is passionate enough about illegal immigration to call for Bush’s impeachment over the issue, there is a good chance that opposition to race replacement forms part of their motivation.