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The White Genocide Evidence ProjectThe White Genocide Evidence Project “Discourse is war.” ~Søren Renner This is the White Genocide Evidence Project: contributors will help create a database of evidence documenting the intentional destruction, displacement, and denigration of the White race in all White nations—White genocide. These contributions will be quotations or other evidence, buttressed as much as possible by references, which will eventually be converted into a final product to expose the perpetrators of White genocide. Hundreds of online discussion forums and websites have already compiled immense lists of hateful, slanderous, or genocidal quotations against the White race. The idea is to collect and synthesize these quotations (and any other evidence) into a polished, presentable, unimpeachable, and independent end-product suitable for public dissemination to the population at large. Many realize the “open borders” movement is a thinly-veiled attempt to dilute and thereby destroy all White nations—Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everybody. White people are libeled and demonized by cultural Marxists in academia, vilified by public slander, and robbed of the right to self-identify all in order to instill a destructive sense of false White guilt. Anti-Whites advance these agendas and claim “the race problem” will disappear if all the White nations assimilate and interbreed with an overwhelming flood of non-White immigrants. These malevolent social engineers yearn for a blended humanity in White nations—mocha-skinned people and societies without race by homogenous default. What they never mention—and what is left to nationalists to publicly emphasize—is that this plan for “diversity” only applies to White nations. If this patent truth were well-recognized, everyone would recognize this scheme as the systematic eradication of the White race—White genocide. Ideally, the people promoting, financing, conspiring in, and implementing White genocide will be brought to justice before an international genocide tribunal. Additionally, the people and organizations pushing for White genocide can face criminal prosecution or civil litigation in various nations. Countless lawsuits have been filed seeking monetary damages or criminal charges against people, firms, or organizations linked to alleged atrocities of the Second World War or modern ethnic conflicts. In the same manner, the forces responsible for White genocide will attract a cottage industry of lucrative lawsuits seeking monetary redress. Myriad wealthy individuals, endowed foundations, and multinational corporations share complicity in the drive to destroy the White race. These deep pockets are ideal targets for lawsuits. This project can provide the groundwork for a prima facie complaint in international or domestic courts of law. As stated, the ultimate purpose of this project is to reproduce all of the quotations and evidence into an independent website unaffiliated with any group or faction. It will serve as an objective testament to the persecution and genocide of White people worldwide. This website will be an invaluable resource to awaken others to the existential issues facing the White race. Furthermore, this project will deter many anti-White individuals from engaging in further hostilities against the White race because it will publicize these crimes to the world and increase the likelihood of criminal prosecution and civil litigation. Please submit direct quotations, written or spoken, that implicate one or more persons, organizations, or governments under the United Nations definition of genocide (see below). Remember the burden of proof is upon the prosecutor or plaintiff; specific details are invaluable. Context, publication details, and verifiable references are all extremely important. If a particular quotation lacks any of these attributes, provide it anyway because others can contribute by filling in the gaps. This is the nature of the project—a worldwide collaboration to create a voluminous, detailed, and well-referenced database of quotations and evidence to implicate agents and organizations responsible for White genocide. Quotations are the easiest to find and thus the primary focus. However, talented and resourceful researchers can submit voting records, corporate policies, lobbying agendas, political agreements, or immigration policies, which are all very helpful. Creativity is encouraged. Format for submissions: Name ***EXAMPLE*** Noel Ignatiev Keep in mind that under international law, genocide is not confined to murder or physical violence and White genocide is not always explicit or related to immigration policy. Evidence of moral degradation, ethnic cleansing from neighborhoods, policies to suppress White birthrates, interracial violence, vilification of the White race, and other such attacks contributing to White genocide is encouraged as well. For more information on the concept of White genocide, please read None Dare Call It White Genocide, excerpted below: The overarching goal of the “open borders” movement is to flood millions of non-Whites into all traditionally White nations. Make no mistake - this is not mere coincidence. It is White genocide by design, worldwide in application. The United States, Great Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Australia: White people founded and populated these nations. All of these nations operated under the implicit mandate, if not explicit by law, that they existed as White nations for the posterity of the White founding stock. All of these nations had overwhelmingly White populations for the preponderance of their national history. Now, in the beginning of the twenty-first century, all of these traditionally White nations face demographic upheavals through massive non-White immigration. The White populations of these countries are slated to become minority populations in just a few generations. International law defines genocide as an international crime against humanity, with grave punishment for violations. As far as the international recognition of the reality of race, ask the ghosts of Saddam Hussein or Wilhelm Frick if the Kurds or Jews, respectively, are mere social constructs. Race is an internationally-recognized reality and is a major factor in the crime of genocide. In the future, the political and economic elites that are responsible for the policies of White genocide may face trial before an international tribunal. The 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II states: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group as such: (a) Killing members of the group; Raphael Lemkin, who originated the term genocide, defined it as follows: Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean destruction of a nation… It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups. Genocide is directed against the national group as an entity, and the actions involved are directed against individuals, not in their individual capacity but as members of a national group. Posted by Christian M on Friday, February 25, 2011 at 02:04 AM in White Genocide Project Comments:2
Posted by anon on March 04, 2011, 11:36 PM | # I say this not because I am impractical, but because we were probably fated to perish after Stalingrad. For 70 years we’ve been on borrowed time. I suspect we have a few more decades until the end, which means I shall have lived my whole life in the shadow of decline, as a member of a dying people. I suppose at this point all that matters is to chronicle how we could have endured, and why.
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Posted by Guest Lurker on March 05, 2011, 12:13 AM | # Leon wrote:
Christ you can write some long-winded posts. I’m not in any way connected to any Asians, but you’re the first white man I’ve ever heard intimate that somehow white women with east Asians is even a greater humiliation than white women with primitive simian-like sub-saharan throwbacks. If there are going to be dysgenic white women out there mating with non-whites, I would personally prefer they were LESS dysgenic than they currently are, just as I would prefer our race in general to be less damaged than it currently is. That is, I could live with maybe losing the occasional white female in our populous to a half-way respectable Asian, rather than the current situation where a significant percentage of the white female population are black fetishists, something that exists in no other race’s female population, outside of black female of course. P.S. I live in Southern Cal as well, and see no evidence of this wave of white females with asian males “en masse”- certainly nowhere near the white male/asian female levels, or the black male/white female abominations. Happy Landings 4
Posted by Frank on March 05, 2011, 01:48 AM | # Christian, relocate it all to a separate thread? Or just delete - I for one wouldn’t mind. 5
Posted by PF on March 05, 2011, 04:11 AM | # So Leon… are you looking for advice on Game? Lets put the racial stuff on the backburner for a second and acknowledge the massive importance of tail! ... or not… *smiles* seriously though, if uh is reading this: I am still interested in purchasing your teeth. If anyone wants to know about Game I’d recommend doing an internet archive search for Basically she was the MR of seduction psyche. Thats just my opinion, but I’m writing this as a tribute to her since she since disappeared into obscurity and cant be found… She is in my pantheon of heroes along with Wintermute, GW, uh, Nietzsche, and a few other greats. Requisquiat in Paces, Destini9. 6
Posted by Leon Haller on March 05, 2011, 06:41 AM | # CHRISTIAN, Sorry for throwing a curveball by mentioning the white female/Asian male thing a long time ago on this thread, though I’m sure it was in response to another comment, etc. These discussion threads always go all over the place. Also, I did suggest that this project was potentially valuable enough to merit its own special file under OF NOTE, which it now seems to have. On the other hand, looking back over what I’ve said (which keeps getting misinterpreted and personalized for some reason), there is actually some valuable insights strewn amongst the irrelevant stuff. And I did question early on whether our race actually is being ‘genocided’. What is happening is that the conditions for our perpetuity are being gradually weakened or removed - like necessary ecological habitat supporting wildlife, which is not the same thing as hunters running amok. This last point of mine is rather important, and you need to formulate a convincing response, if this project is to have the value I suspect you impute to it. 7
Posted by Leon Haller on March 05, 2011, 06:43 AM | # PF, So Leon… are you looking for advice on Game? Uh, no, but thanks. Maybe I’ll take a look at what you recommend. I need no advice (as you will see if you read what I wrote above). I do worry about the long term effect of many good white women now taking up with Asians (saw two more tonight in Westwood), as degenerate white females have done with blacks and Mexicans. I would like to know about Wintermute, however. I’ve heard the reference, but never seen anything by him/her. 8
Posted by Leon Haller on March 05, 2011, 06:44 AM | # GUEST LURKER, “lengthy” would be more accurate than “long-winded”. Look it up. The issue is QUALITY loss. How many quality white females around here run around with blacks? Seriously, dude! It’s mostly the very slutty, low-IQ type (in the old days it was really ugly ones, too - now, I admit to being very annoyed when I see an attractive white girl with a Negroid, even if she usually is stupid and low class). But many women I see with Asian males are normal, middle or better class, etc. That represents a real loss to the race. In fairness, business takes me up to San Francisco with some frequency, and the Asian/white problem seems to be even worse there. I’ve also seen it in San Diego. 9
Posted by Leon Haller on March 05, 2011, 06:46 AM | # FRANK, No hard feelings. I just don’t want to be misinterpreted, or miscast as something I’m not. For example, on the many ‘conservative’ threads from which I’ve been banned (eg, Chronicles, First Things, Free Republic, etc), I’m often castigated as “that Nazi”, when I repeatedly stress that I am not a philosophical Nazi, but a true conservative who therefore wishes to keep the white race from extinction. What is more ‘conservative’ than that? Unfortunately, for the race liberals at places like those mentioned, I ask the tough questions about the compatibility between race-denial / race-replacement and conservatism, to which the cowards don’t have answers, and so respond like petulant children. Fleming is just the worst, a true coward (actually Scott Richert might be the very worst; I barely consider him to be on the Right at all). If you’re not banned yet from those sites, keep hoisting the race patriot flag. 10
Posted by Leon Haller on March 05, 2011, 09:27 AM | # I say this not because I am impractical, but because we were probably fated to perish after Stalingrad. For 70 years we’ve been on borrowed time. I suspect we have a few more decades until the end, which means I shall have lived my whole life in the shadow of decline, as a member of a dying people. I suppose at this point all that matters is to chronicle how we could have endured, and why. (LH) Coldly beautiful words. Am surprised by your pessimism.(anon) ANON, Do you comment here or elsewhere under another moniker? You seem vaguely familiar. Anyway, I alternate between moments of optimism and pessimism. It would be strange to sound defeatist, especially for me, as I am tidying up my affairs and finances in order to be able to devote myself in the second part of my career/life to full-time racialism - scholarship, media work, and political organizing in the US on behalf of our soon to be white minority. I am doing this without any convincing expectation of final victory - though there are several levels constituting such victory, from reconquest of former white polities, to the foreign racial state I advocate, to white group consciousness raising and protectionist activism within ‘diversified’ societies to ensure white survival even if we are numeric minorities. I will do it for what are ultimately Christian reasons, but mixed with ‘earthy’ passions and psychic impulses. That is, I think that 1) Western civilization has both a right and even a duty to survive, and that it cannot do so without whites; 2) someone who understands the truth and could make a real contribution to the cause ought to do so, both out of Christian ethical obligation, as well as personal honor; and 3) I could write some books that would be a source of pride; possibly make it in rightist media, which I would prefer to my current business career; and really enjoy building the white activist organization I have had in mind for over 15 years. But in the end, will it matter? Only intermediately, I think. The back and forth between me and Guest Lurker in this thread is extremely important, because it implicates the major issue in racial survival: how can or will we stop our women from miscegenating? In every generation there is a large number of women who do not reproduce (I’ve done no specific research, but I’d like to know the number for women under 50, which I suspect is substantially higher than for women over 70, 80, 90). I think that number has been rising throughout the 20th century, and into this one. Every gene line whose carrier miscegenates is lost to the white race. For example, unless Tiger Woods’ Swedish supermodel wife divorces him, remarries a white man, and has children with the latter, she will not have passed her racial essence to a new generation. I do not regard miscegenation as a ‘spreading’ of the white racial genotype to other races, but simply as a subtraction from the white race, at least if the miscegenator is female (why this should be so is obvious, but the answer could be given this way: is Obama white or black?). I think racial extinction is likely because miscegenation will only become more common in the future, at least to the extent that people are allowed sexual and marital freedom. It would have increased even apart from immigration, simply due to expanding wealth and ever easier travel. The internet exponentially increases miscegenation opportunities, and this will only grow in the future (until the pool of possible miscegenators has been soaked up, and only willful non-miscegenators remain - and they will be too few to defend themselves). What can counter the racial-loss effects of miscegenation? Ultimately, either sexual authoritarianism, long present in the West, esp pre-WW2, but now and for the foreseeable future totally morally and politically discredited, or else something (attitudes, laws, economic changes) to cause huge fertility increases among the non-miscegenating portion of the white population (to counteract or overwhelm the miscegenators, as it were). The former will not happen in the modern West as presently politically constituted (so we’re back to advocating RaHoWa, and the instantiation of a semi-totalitarian Racial State), and all exogenous trends in society, economics, government parasitism, social dysgenesis, parenting psychologies, even environmental and natural resource conditions, militate against large white families (and the trend almost everywhere is for smaller nonwhite families, too). [Note: the one exception is certain white fundamentalist Christian groups with a hyper-family and reproduction orientation - yet another reason why we need to enlist Christianity on our side, or make it ideologically congruent with racial preservationism, as well as why atheistic forms of nationalism will always prove so, well, sterile.] The problem with Racial Revolution is that white societies are too wealthy and secure for their peoples to risk death and economic ruin in fomenting it - especially for something as abstract and personally remote as “saving the white race”. Whites will have to become far more miserable than at present before they will pick up guns en masse for revolutionary reasons. Before that level of misery is reached, however, the white peoples will elect conservative parties, who in turn will ameliorate the problems with better government solutions, especially in the economic sphere - and thus furtheranesthetize their populations in the face of accelerating racial dispossession and “pre-extinction”. By the time whites are so immiserated that they “don’t give a fuck”, as the skins say, they will be too few to wage a credible counter-revolution (see, eg, their condition in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe today - and their lack of white revolutionary activity). Whites are going to have to learn to survive as a diasporic people (imagine that: a native born white Englishman a refugee in bloody England itself!!). Will they be able to do so? Will they be allowed to? 11
Posted by Sam Davidson on March 05, 2011, 02:22 PM | # If the admins on this site are serious why are they allowing someone posting under the name “Leon Haller” to HIJACK A THREAD ABOUT WHITE GENOCIDE so he can talk about comparative penis size or how his relationships have failed? 12
Posted by Frank on March 05, 2011, 04:00 PM | # Christian M, Ignatiev, “The Point is Not to Interpret Whiteness but to Abolish It,” found at —- Leon, I posted racial comments at Chronicles for years. They never asked me to leave, but I’ve since realised they’ve all read the racially oriented sites. Dr. Fleming isn’t a coward I think but an authentic anti-nationalist. He wrote an article recently in Chronicles on how nationalism inevitably leads to empire and dual morality, and I’ve read countless other articles by him suggesting such a view as well. I nevertheless recommend people to read the magazine - the racial right is still dealing with insanity. A fusion of sanity and racialism is needed between the two. 13
Posted by Woody on March 06, 2011, 12:50 AM | # Leon is asking PF and Uh for advice on how to pick up women. Truly surreal. The first port of call should be Silver, who at least has picking up Thai hookers down to a science. 14
Posted by Woodrow on March 06, 2011, 01:05 AM | #
Sam, I seem to recall you once gushing over the respect you have for Leon’s commentary. Apparently it’s a package deal. 15
Posted by Jimmy Marr on March 06, 2011, 01:40 AM | #
And a small a package at that. 16
Posted by Leon Haller on March 06, 2011, 09:09 AM | # Posted by Sam Davidson on March 05, 2011, 06:22 PM | # If the admins on this site are serious why are they allowing someone posting under the name “Leon Haller” to HIJACK A THREAD ABOUT WHITE GENOCIDE so he can talk about comparative penis size or how his relationships have failed? Sam, Obviously you haven’t followed the discussion. Comparative penis size (between whites and blacks, which you don’t mention), incidentally, seems to be a major issue for Philippe Rushton, whom Jared Taylor has called “the world’s greatest living racial scientist”, no mean praise from a major source. Of course, what is interesting is that I have a lengthy, impersonal comment about white extinction immediately above yours. No comments on that, which is a bit disappointing. It would be very instructive to have an intellectual but neutral party compare my stuff to most of what others publish here - and see whose material he finds more pointed, enlightening, even amusing, perhaps. 17
Posted by Leon Haller on March 06, 2011, 09:18 AM | # Leon is asking PF and Uh for advice on how to pick up women. Truly surreal. (Woody) What the fuck are you talking about? Where do I ask advice from anyone? I declined PF’s offer of such advice! I don’t even remember “uh” being part of this discussion. Actually, from what I read here, I strongly suspect that I could be giving huge amounts of dating advice (and probably other types of (professional, financial) advice) to many regulars. I hate saying this, but there is a lot of inanity among the insights in these parts. There is considerable misunderstanding of female psychology; gross unfamiliarity with real Jews; tremendous economic and financial ignorance routinely exhibited; as well as endless ill-thought out bromides and general ideological thinking substituting for real attempts at useful analysis. 18
Posted by Leon Haller on March 06, 2011, 09:30 AM | # Leon, I posted racial comments at Chronicles for years. They never asked me to leave, but I’ve since realised they’ve all read the racially oriented sites. Dr. Fleming isn’t a coward I think but an authentic anti-nationalist. He wrote an article recently in Chronicles on how nationalism inevitably leads to empire and dual morality, and I’ve read countless other articles by him suggesting such a view as well. I nevertheless recommend people to read the magazine - the racial right is still dealing with insanity. A fusion of sanity and racialism is needed between the two. (Frank) I’ve been reading CHRONICLES closely and in whole for two decades, month after month. I must now be one of their longer term subscribers - and by far one of their most diligent readers (even as the mag has massively declined over the past 3 years or so). I disagree re Fleming. He’s pretty bright, and very learned (note my different emphases: I know any number of people I think possess his IQ; I’ve spoken with him in person, and was impressed, but not remotely intimidated; he is extremely classically well-read, I admit). He is also solidly conservative. Thus, he must realize that the Third World invasion is devastating for the prospects of Western survival, and indeed, he has admirably made immigration a major issue for the magazine. Yet every time someone mentions whites coming together to assert or just defend their own interests, he starts whining, banning people, trying to needlessly complicate the issue, or otherwise engaging in “reverse-PC”; ie, acknowledging problems associated with nonwhites, but then trying to find ways, however tortured, to blame (liberal, neocon) whites for having somehow created the mess. For Fleming, nonwhites are never really a problem in themselves - and natural racist responses are morally worse than the original problems which called forth those responses. 19
Posted by PF on March 06, 2011, 11:59 PM | # Leon Haller wrote:
You begged me and uh to give you advice, just read higher up in this thread, Leon!! Leon Haller wrote:
Remember that comment? Then I politely recommended the services of Brigadier PF and Field Marshall Leptini, who quite frankly are two of the most fearless poonani squires to ever set foot on American soil. This isn’t embittered Roissy’s club skank carousel or Leon’s picking-Russian-girls-up-from-the-airport adventures: when PF flexes the mercian dimples and Leptini flashes the golden grill, girls update their facebook profiles - do you understand what I’m saying to you, Leon? Try to read between the lines here - not everything we need to know as men will appear in serialized form in Chronicles, OK? I’m trying to tell you that my needs get met without handing out green cards. Real men don’t have to go slumming for slavic peasant trim - you won’t see me carrying a pocket dictionary around the airport stuttering ‘Horrowshow, horrorshow’. Leon wrote:
Most guys here are older, taken, not interested in the hunt, and/or suffering with personality-issues which make dating impossible. Plus it isn’t hard to infer what your method is: douse a Langenscheidt’s dictionary with chloroform and go after clueless Ukrainian girls. If your clumsy broken Ukrainglish doesn’t work, just stick the book in their face. I’m here to say that there is a better way, broseph. 20
Posted by PF on March 07, 2011, 12:18 AM | # apologies apologies…. Sorry Leon for the above post, I was in a mean mood and honestly I was just being a troll. All the stuff I said was only to amuse myself and has nothing to do with what I actually think of you - which is really with respect for a dedicated, highly intelligent and multi-faceted white man. A brother in arms, in all seriousness. I just wanted to have a laugh and paint some funny mental pictures. Plus everybody struggles with women and modern relationships - none of us is any better than the other in my honest opinion. You’re probably ahead of the game by a longshot, from what you’ve said. Putting another guy down is way lame. Some of the other guys on here might just be messing with you too… no worries mate. 21
Posted by Hamish on March 07, 2011, 01:33 AM | # I seem to keep having these issues with women… I can never find the quality ones - only Russian immigrant skanks who I’ve been able to lure to my bed with promises of citizenship. Cease and desist from this immoral behavior at once. You seem disturbingly similar to those Fox producers who came up with that Joe Millionaire show. 22
Posted by Leon Haller on March 07, 2011, 06:53 AM | # Christian, Thanks for deleting my comments re the Asian/white issue, you jerk! You could have just deleted my personal stuff (which was posted both to correct misunderstandings, but also to amuse). Why did you delete my miscegenation comments?! I would have liked to have saved some of that (I just hadn’t done it yet). I made a lot of serious points in my exchanges with Guest Lurker. In fact, you deleted my original comments re the difference between white “genocide” and liberals who undermine the conditions for white survival. Fuck! Post those back, shithead. Don’t let my Christian commitments fool you. Real Christians (this is weird, given your name ...) are just, not foolish, cowardly or obsequious. I don’t like this kind of highhandedness, and will remember it. 23
Posted by Leon Haller on March 07, 2011, 07:05 AM | # PF, You’re witty. Welcome back (thought you’d left after contracting Heideggeria). My Russian was very pretty, and skilled in ways men appreciate. But heartless, narcissistic and cunning. But that, along with much else, is past. That whole exchange had little to do with me originally. I merely pointed out the dangers of quality white women in CA (and elsewhere) with dating options now choosing Asian males over (presumably) available white men. I really wish my serious observations on those matters had not been deleted. To reiterate for the record: I never asked anyone for dating advice here. I mentioned some lessons from my own extensive experience. 24
Posted by Leon Haller on March 07, 2011, 07:48 AM | # Sorry Leon for the above post, I was in a mean mood and honestly I was just being a troll. All the stuff I said was only to amuse myself and has nothing to do with what I actually think of you - which is really with respect for a dedicated, highly intelligent and multi-faceted white man. A brother in arms, in all seriousness. (PF) PF, BTW, thanks for your kind comments. Whether I am intelligent or multi-faceted is open to debate. What I do resent is those (not talking about you) who question my dedication, just because I, say, don’t think we can blame all or even most of our problems on Jews or Zionism, or don’t believe that RaHoWa or Racial Armageddon is right around the corner, “in a matter of months”, as Narrator opined recently. I am as radical as anyone here in my commitment to preserving the white race and the civilization it alone created and can alone sustain. I do not think there is virtue, however, in theoretical radicalism merely for its own sake. What matters is that we adopt above all a ruthless commitment to seeing our situation clearly. Yes, that means calling attention to dangers, but not exaggerating them. It also means tailoring our messages properly for public consumption. For example, most people here mock my essential (but NOT fundamentalist) Christianity. I understand their position. I’ve read books by any number of atheists, and am not close minded in religious matters. My theologic-political views, which I intend to elaborate in future scholarship (I’m still reading about the issues, and formulating my final thoughts), are very unusual. I am Catholic modernist / liberal in theology, with a thoroughly non-literalist approach to Scripture, yet Hard (Racial) Right ideologically. That is a rare combination, which needs its spokesman. But even if all forms of supernaturalism are finally, empirically false, it is a truth to which we must adapt our rhetoric that, as I’ve pointed out in the past, most white Americans are Christians, and the vast bulk of conservative white Americans are real Christians. Take immigration. In the US, it is a fact of empirical political science that self-identified white Christians are more opposed to it than any other large demographic. It is also a fact that white atheists are much more likely a) to be leftists, and b) to be pro-immigration. I cannot explain why that should be so (my own sense is that most white atheists should be against immigration, and most other aspects of the Left’s white-dispossessionist agenda), but given that it is, does it make any strategic sense to associate white preservationism with atheism? That is insane; indeed, only marginally less so than associating our just cause with Nazism, as the Jewish Left cunningly has done. The trick in democracies is that one usually can only change the electorate in gradualist fashion. What is more successful is the Aristotelian “revolution within the form”, whereby the outer garb of the regime is preserved, even while it essence is hollowed out (the Augustan revolution being history’s most prominent example: Rome changed from a republic to an empire, but the outward institutional signs of Republican Rome were not discarded, instead transmogrified into imperial appendages which nevertheless allowed for the maintenance of the image of historical continuity), as opposed to radical calls for wholesale change, which invariably inertial voters normally, sagely reject. So let no one confuse calls for rhetorical moderation with abandonment of core values. One often catches more flies with honey than vinegar, after all! 25
Posted by Hamish on March 07, 2011, 09:08 AM | # Take immigration. In the US, it is a fact of empirical political science that self-identified white Christians are more opposed to it than any other large demographic. It is also a fact that white atheists are much more likely a) to be leftists, and b) to be pro-immigration. I cannot explain why that should be so (my own sense is that most white atheists should be against immigration, and most other aspects of the Left’s white-dispossessionist agenda), but given that it is, does it make any strategic sense to associate white preservationism with atheism? I agree with you on these points. Can’t say I agree with the idea of “breeding out the faith gene” which is sometimes alluded to here (anyone know who came up with it?). Also can’t say I agree with that Greg Johnson’s mad idea of associating WN with that crazy person Faye and his idea of creating man-animal hybrids. That is insane; indeed, only marginally less so than associating our just cause with Nazism, as the Jewish Left cunningly has done. I see what you’re saying, but the problem is that any org that allows Jews in will be taken over by Jewish interests. They’re just better at us at stealthily steering orgs in their desired direction. Leon, do you support the idea of a non-Neo-Nazi group excluding Jews from membership? 26
Posted by Leon Haller on March 07, 2011, 11:28 AM | # Leon, do you support the idea of a non-Neo-Nazi group excluding Jews from membership? (Hamish) I’m complicated, maybe confused, in my JQ views. I’m also overly influenced by my having too many close Jewish friends, as well as and especially by having several Jewish racial-conservative friends. I have to consider this at greater length later, as the workday beckons. Short answer? I see your point. It would have been better for US and the West if the Jews had never left Israel/Palestine. It would be better for us if they all returned there. But they are here, and they won’t leave voluntarily. What to do? My views will elicit storms of outrage here. I think we should make an alliance with Jewry - but it must be forged in steel, with both sides held to account (unlike today, where everything is for the Jews, nothing for us). We must state clearly that our goal is to save white, Christian civilization. We must lay out the specifics (no immigration, ultimate nonwhite repatriation from Europe, no affirmative racism, real, white history taught in schools, only white Christian and national traditionalist public holidays, pro-white-fertility tax and social policies, etc). We tell Jews that we wish to increase white (Aryan) birthrates above all else (after nonwhite immigration has been terminated). We tell the Jews to support us, beginning with ending their support for immigration, and making sizable donations to nationalist parties, in exchange for which we will let them conduct business, attend synagogues, and live in our midst, if already here (no Jewish immigration, however). We will also morally support Israel in world opinion, and international bodies. If a group is committed to this .. if nationalist principles are written into its very organizational charter ... then what is wrong with letting Jews join, given that, whether we like it or not, they are in our societies already? I have Jewish friends who are very civilized, very conservative, very racist. They are also very intelligent, mostly very successful, and mostly affluent to rich. Could we not use persons like that, provided that we ourselves are inflexible and unyielding in our understanding of the white, Christian character of our organization and countries? 27
Posted by anon on March 07, 2011, 06:18 PM | # Could we not use persons like that, provided that we ourselves are inflexible and unyielding in our understanding of the white, Christian character of our organization and countries? “Persons like that” would ultimately use us, not we them. That’s just the way it goes, Leon. 28
Posted by Thunder on March 07, 2011, 06:30 PM | # Guessedworker, Christian: 29
Posted by Ryan on March 07, 2011, 07:00 PM | #
It’s because Greg Johnson gets turned on by horsecock. 30
Posted by marlowe on March 07, 2011, 07:13 PM | # LHaller:
So it’s to be a “forged in steel” alliance that requires not only their consent, but their permission? Like an agreement? I’m afraid you don’t know who you are dealing with. 31
Posted by Guessedworker on March 07, 2011, 08:18 PM | # Thunder, Christian is working on the next stage of development for the project, which will come shortly. 32
Posted by A Swain on March 07, 2011, 09:08 PM | # Here are three links that irrefutably prove anti-White race hate. The criminals involved should have been arrested and charged at the time they committed their hate crimes against the European-descended White rate, but nonetheless, it’s never too late for leaders and advocats of the White race to start the necessary proceedings to press for arrest on the grounds of such charges. http://www.mashada.com/forums/politics/69228-wanjiru-white-people-haters-we-belong-human-race.html http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/going-gets-tough-white-haters-get-go 33
Posted by Leon Haller on March 08, 2011, 06:55 AM | # So it’s to be a “forged in steel” alliance that requires not only their consent, but their permission? Like an agreement? I’m afraid you don’t know who you are dealing with. (marlowe) How do you get that interpretation (permission?) from what I said and you copied? 34
Posted by Captainchaos on March 08, 2011, 07:31 AM | # Leon, You need to learn how to pick your fights. You know me, I’ll get hyper-aggressive with it. But always within the confines of a larger strategic vision - at least so I hope. Of course, sometimes I’ll just say “Fuck it” and toss in a grenade. 35
Posted by Leon Haller on March 08, 2011, 11:39 AM | # CC, Yes. What I really need to do is to stop compulsive blogging, and start my formal writing. That’s a long road, getting real academic, and then scholarly, credibility. Soon, I’m going to drop off the internet permanently, and concentrate on articles, essays and my book on racial ethics. Of course, it would be nice to streamline my life across the board, too. Actually, it would be nice if we could all earn our daily bread through racial activism, rather than dissipating our already collectively limited energies on racially unproductive ‘real work’. 36
Posted by Captainchaos on March 08, 2011, 05:10 PM | # Leon, I think blogging is a more effective medium for communicating our ideas than the production of boring tomes. What must come to pass is a mass movement explicitly predicated on achieving racially exclusive living space. There is no substitute. Look to the success of a streamlined and radical message in upsetting political power in the Middle East. Yes, it did really happen. And can again, here. 38
Posted by Leon Haller on March 09, 2011, 08:46 AM | # Leon, I think blogging is a more effective medium for communicating our ideas than the production of boring tomes. What must come to pass is a mass movement explicitly predicated on achieving racially exclusive living space. There is no substitute. Look to the success of a streamlined and radical message in upsetting political power in the Middle East. Yes, it did really happen. And can again, here. (CC) Yes, but ... We are in a very different situation from the Arabs. They are/were living under obvious tyrannies, often pitting one sub-nation (“tribe”) against another. That superficially sounds like our situation, but obviously isn’t. For one thing, we have the vote (or its illusion), they have not. Our situation is that our people need to be convinced of their dispossession, and eventual extinction - and of the moral rightness of doing something to stop it. Or, at least a substantial and vigorous enough minority of them. That’s where the totality of our work comes in. We need everything - from academic works, to journalism, to political organizing, to ideological activism, to mass media, to street activism - all working to fulfill some “nationalist minimum”, like ending immigration. We are a long way from there, unfortunately. 39
Posted by Aquila on March 11, 2011, 10:27 PM | # “I think blogging is a more effective medium for communicating our ideas than the production of boring tomes.” If you are posting comments on a political blog it won’t have any effect. Blogs with political contents are just places where people of the same “club” meet, nothing will change. You can hope for some change only on more neutral places like newspaper websites. 40
Posted by PHIL WHITE on March 13, 2011, 04:25 PM | # HI: Saw your request for help over at whitakeronline.org THis is the best I’ve got. S. Steinlight, former vice president of AJC, wrote an article for CIS (center for immigration studies)in November of 2001. It is on line. About half way down the 15,000 word article he says “We can divide and rule’ S. Steinlight, former vice president of AJC, wrote an article for CIS (center for immigration studies)in October of 2001. It is on line. About half way down the 15,000 word article he says “We can divide and rule’
The Jewish Stake in America’s 41
Posted by professor edwards on March 22, 2011, 12:57 PM | # ‘Discourse is war’ is a retarded slogan, and in any case it is stolen from a 1980s leftist slogan (‘Rational Discourse is War’). 42
Posted by A Swain on March 23, 2011, 07:50 AM | # Anti-White race hate spotlight on Greg Dyke, former Director-General of the British Broadcasting Corporation. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12841/Dyke-BBC-hideously-white.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/bbc-is-hideously-white-says-dyke-702583.html Dyke is thought to be of part-Ashkenazi origin. Interesting later development. Could the two characters mentioned in the following news item be of the same origin, perhaps? “On 10 March 2010, it was reported that he had been approached by Alexander Lebedev and his son Evgeny Lebedev to edit The Independent and The Independent on Sunday newspapers” 43
Posted by Pete on March 27, 2011, 01:43 PM | # Report on CNN about a county that is deemed “too white” and how it is in the process of ensuring it recruits more non-whites in violation of Article 2 section (c) http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/03/26/white.county.diversity.cnn?hpt=C2 44
Posted by Voir Dire on April 16, 2011, 11:37 PM | # Jew Judge, Justice Brennan, Gave Us Destructive “Anchor Baby” Interpretation of 14th Amendment (What Will the First-Amendment-Hating Radical Jewess Elena Kagan Bring to the Table?) that Dramatically Transformed U.S. Demographics and Helped Bankrupt U.S. Justice Brennan’s Footnote Gave Us Anchor Babies For a hundred years, that was how it stood, with only one case adding the caveat that children born to LEGAL permanent residents of the U.S., gainfully employed, and who were not employed by a foreign government would also be deemed citizens under the 14th Amendment. (United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 1898.) And then, out of the blue in 1982, Justice Brennan slipped a footnote into his 5-4 opinion in Plyler v. Doe, asserting that “no plausible distinction with respect to Fourteenth Amendment ‘jurisdiction’ can be drawn between resident aliens whose entry into the United States was lawful, and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful.” (Other than the part about one being lawful and the other not.) Brennan’s authority for this lunatic statement was that it appeared in a 1912 book written by Clement L. Bouve. (Yes, THE Clement L. Bouve—the one you’ve heard so much about over the years.) Bouve was not a senator, not an elected official, certainly not a judge—just some guy who wrote a book. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38409 Brennan: An unparalleled religious liberty champion Less well-known is that he is the only justice ever to wear a camouflage yarmulke in chambers. http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/6258/brennan-an-unparalleled-religious-liberty-champion/ Jewish Grins & Grimaces From Elena Kagan http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=517 Why Are Abortionists, Jews, Gays & Leftists Pushing Kagan? 45
Posted by philipdru on April 19, 2011, 11:45 AM | #
The same principle governs ‘British’ nationalism. That is why I despise it and its self-hating, overwhelmingly English adherents. Scots are Scots, Irish are Irish while the English are….er, British - an object of abuse even to those who plunder her and inescapably the one necessary sacrificial offering to sustaining an outworn and unjust ideology. Does it matter what colour is the hand that plunges a knife between your shoulder blades? 46
Posted by Dungeoneer on April 21, 2011, 10:02 AM | # Posted by philipdru on April 19, 2011, 03:45 PM | # “Does it matter what colour is the hand that plunges a knife between your shoulder blades?” Any type of meaningless wordism debate is grist to the anti-white pro-genocide mill. This is the white genocide evidence project page,no? 47
Posted by Jordon Yampolsky on September 05, 2011, 05:55 AM | # Very interesting post. Thank you for sharing. Next entry: The Problem of Democracy Previous entry: Internecine Rodent War: No Biscuit! |
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Posted by Frank on March 04, 2011, 04:29 PM | #
A role friends serve is to offer good advice. I really didn’t mean to criticise you though mate.
Ah, that’s not to say an anonymous person like me you’ve met off and on at different sites over the years is a “friend” (beware Internet strangers!)