Thomas Chittum’s Holocaust

Thomas W. Chittum is an author, military analyst and former mercenary from New Jersey.He served in the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War. He fought in the Rhodesian War and the Croatian War of Independence. Chittum predicts that the United States will soon face Balkanization and a second Civil War based on racial conflicts. He also says that he plans to move to upstate New York because it will be the last Caucasian-controlled area after the American Southwest effectively becomes part of Mexico due to immigration by 2020.
He is the author of Sgt Skull’s Field Manual for the Practical Modern Warrior, 2006 and Civil War Two: The Coming Breakup of America. Tucson, AZ: American Eagle Publications. p. 201 pages. ISBN 0929408179. (1993, updated in 2007 with preface and author foreword)

Chittum observes that nobody wrote a book warning Americans about the bloodbath that the first civil war was about to unleash. That war ground the entire southern half of America into a smoking wasteland and killed or crippled almost an entire generation of American men.

Most people are waking up to the horrid fact that a second depression is upon us – that their “retirement cookie jars have been systematically looted.”

Chittum arns that this “meltdown will hasten our descent into an internal civil war that will depopulate the entire North American continent, wiping out 50% or more of the population.”

“Before I go on I’d like to revisit my book and go over what I got right and what I got wrong. I mentioned the New World Order in my book. At the time I wasn’t aware that the New World Order was an active conspiracy of bankers and aristocrats centered in London. I thought it was a sort of loose alliance of giddy globalists, trendy tree huggers and politically correct airheads. Then along came both the internet and the 911 terrorists attacks. I took me approximately three months to wise up to the fact that 911 was an inside job. I’d always followed military events closely and that’s how I woke up to the 911 scam. For years the American military had been encircling Afghanistan with military bases and pre-positioned stockpiles of military goodies. Then along came Osama bin Subcontractor like some boogie man in a bad movie. It all seemed like a low-budget Hollywood production. That’s because it was.”

After years of speaking to rightist groups, Chittum has concluded that the obvious government spooks at the meetings weren’t there to spy on these groups. The government spooks were there because “THESE GOVERNMENT SPOOKS WERE ACTUALLY RUNNING THESE RIGHTIST GROUPS. Most of these right-wing groups were conceived, planned, created and then run by government spooks. It’s all part of what I call peasant management.”

The spooks “create false flag rightist groups to stampede leftists into the ranks of their false flag leftist groups, and they create the false flag leftist groups to stampede rightists into their false flag rightist groups.”

Chittum believes the New World Order is in a hell of a jam.

“Both Russia and China have how shaken off communism which was imposed on them by the London Banking Cartel. Both have turned to state-directed development and growth policies and are striving to feed their people and increase their standard of living. This is the exact opposite of the global depopulation and genocide via starvation and war that the New World Order is imposing on the rest of the globe via the Club of Rome and their other psychotic think tanks and NGOs. Russia and China and some neighboring states have formed a double whammy military and economic bloc called the Shanghai Cooperation Organization…..The clock is ticking against the London Banking Cartel and the only solution to fulfilling both their military and economic blueprints is pedal to the metal all-out war.”

Chittum means nuclear war.

“The London Banking Cartel has to sell global war to the American airheads, hence the 911 terrorist attacks. Dictatorships cannot stampede the people into giving up their property and their liberty without conjuring up both foreign AND DOMESTIC ENEMIES. That’s why a civil war is in the offing. A civil war in America is not only possible – IT IS ESSENTIAL. It’s all part of the plan. Flood the Southwest with millions of Mexicans and then trash the economy so the starving and ticked off Mexicans will burn an entire geographic region right down to the ground. This should be sufficient to stampede the rest of the peasants into accepting anything the London Banking Cartel pukes up and presents as a solution to the resulting mess.”

Chittum explains that our rulers have convinced themselves that nuclear warfare is survivable, winnable and beneficial for them.

“Massive peasant armies are no longer a necessity due to the extreme energy density of nukes. The industrial infrastructure necessary to generate a really impressive nuke arsenal is far greater than the relatively small number of professional soldiers necessary to deliver them. “When peasants became useless for war the bulk of them became useless. Before nukes the rule was the more peasants the better. After nukes only a smaller number of peasants were needed to produce goodies for the idle aristocrats…. Massive peasant armies are obsolete and are maintained chiefly on a reduced scale for theatrical purposes. They are there for peasant perception control….”

The Bush-Obama wars serve two purposes: the conquest of the Asian heartland and the destruction of current military machine.

The current military machine must be destroyed so it can be replaced into one better designed to ensure the dismantling of the American republic.

“The destruction of the American military in Iraq and Afghanistan will pave the way for its replacement by privatized military contractors formerly known as warlords. Citizen soldiers might balk at massive ethnic cleansing operations in California for example, but warlords won’t. Picture armies of Blackwater mercs composed of mostly non-Americans recruited from all points of the globe.They will gladly slaughter everything in their path including any remaining American military units who might oppose them. The London Banking Cartel must first ignite a civil war in America and then ultimately ensure the that the secessionist win after their hired warlords and mercenary hordes have stomped the new mini states into malleable mush which may or may not be glued together in some sort of North American Confederation with “Ameros” for money and some multi-colored rag for a flag… I basically think it will work. I think the coming tribal/civil war in America will be roughly proportional to the severity of the economic collapse that sets it off. Meanwhile, while you are waiting for Osama bin Subcontractor to nuke us and waiting for your starving neighbors to batter your door down, keep an eye on California. It’s the canary in the coal mine. When it croaks the rest of America ill follow sooner or later.”

Mr. Chittum began by explaining how Yugoslavian type collapse of the United States would come about.

His subsequent research has led him to identify our rulers.

You may visit his http://www.establishmentalmanac.com/ and download who is who and how they are connected.

The E-book version of Civil War Two can be purchased at http://amfirstbooks.com/

You Tube video of Koreans vs Looters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKTw-UHalZc

Cpl. Cadaver’s Survivalist web site
http://www.geocities.com/ramjam501/?200822

Thomas Chittum’s web site
http://WWW.ESTABLISHMENTALMANAC.COM

Mega Depression, Then Mega Civil War-Thomas Chittum
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=133724

 

Posted by Robert Reis on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 09:04 AM in Political analysis
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Posted by Robert Reis on May 15, 2009, 09:24 AM | #

http://www.geocities.com/ramjam501/?200822
The Year of the Machete by Tom Chittum

The population of the Virgin Islands is 85% black and Hispanic, and 15% European. They are all American citizens living on American soil and the American flag flies overhead. In 1989 hurricane Hugo struck the Virgin Islands. Riot, looting and anarchy followed. “Armed gangs of 100 or more plundered the streets.” There were “roving, machete-wielding gangs bent on murder.” Europeans were “punched, clubbed and driven from their homes.” When the mostly black National Guard was called out to restore order they joined in the looting, driving away in national guard trucks packed full of looted merchandise. Numerous witnesses reported that black police and national guardsmen joined in the looting. The Europeans had to arm themselves with machetes to defend their lives and their homes. Don’t be like the unfortunate lady pictured on the left. Be prepared for such disturbances when they come to your area.

When Civil War Two dawns over the glorious American Empire it will take on an interesting variation in Florida. Accounts of the initial disorders will read much like the one that follows, one that actually did happen.

Black and Hispanic rioters armed with guns and machetes roamed the streets for days, sometimes in gangs of 100 or more. They looted and burned stores. They threatened, robbed and assaulted Europeans, sometimes driving them from their homes.

The local police and national guardsmen, who were almost all blacks and Hispanics, bolted their sworn allegiance to the law, failed to protect the Europeans from these assaults, and according to eyewitnesses actually joined in the looting, driving away in national guard trucks they had so industriously loaded with merchandise.

Hundreds of imprisoned black and Hispanic convicts, including rapists and murderers, escaped and poured into the streets, fueling the chaos.

The shocked and unprepared Europeans were forced to defend themselves from the blacks and Hispanics with whatever was at hand. Some had guns, but others had to stand guard over their homes and property with machetes. Many Europeans fled to the airport where they begged the arriving, mostly-European soldiers to evacuate them.

This scenario depicted above is not a piece of B-movie fiction, it really happened. What’s more, it wasn’t played out in some foreign banana republic or remote leftover of the British or French Empires.

All the principals described above were Americans - all of them. The black and Hispanic rioters were Americans. The escaped convicts were Americans. The police and national guardsmen turned looters were Americans. The Europeans who took up machetes in defense of their homes and lives were Americans. The terrified Europeans who fled to the airport for evacutaion were Americans. The arriving soldiers who rescued them were Americans. They were all Americans, all of them, and the Stars and Stripes flew overhead while our imperial society first broke down and broke up, then reformed in clashing tribal fragments.

This astonishing breakdown was reported on the front page of America’s leading Imperialist mouthpiece, along with pictures and extensive eyewitness accounts of the terrified survivors, and it occurred within the lifetime of most living Americans ... and was then instantly forgotten. Down the memory hole - what’s on the tube tonite?

I’ll wager that today not one American in a thousand remembers this all-American apocalypse when American police and national guardsmen turned looters, and when European-Americans had to arm themselves with machetes and stand guard over their homes, and it all happened on American soil with the Stars and Stripes flapping overhead, exposed as the gutted symbol it has been reduced to. Throw in some popcorn and you’ve got yourself a neat preview of Civil War Two.

I bet you’ve no idea of what I’m talking about, do you? If you are reading these words on my website you can scan down to the posted newspaper accounts and verify everything I’ve said. If you’re not at my website you’ll simply have to visit it. The URL is posted at the end of this column.

Critics mock my assertion that America will devolve into a 3,000 mile tribal Superdeath Bowl with black and Hispanic police and soldiers rebelling and pitching in with their tribal co-ethnics in rioting and looting and attacking Europeans. My fellow imperial subjects, these establishment critics can’t even remember when it actually happened right under their noses.

Residents of Florida should pay particular attention to the ethnic rebellion described above and documented below by the New York Times. Why? Because it provides an instructive preview of a region-wide riot-turned-rebellion that will drive the few remaining Europeans (by which I mean those not partitioned by machetes) out of southern Florida about a generation from now, never to return.

Do you live in southern Florida? About a generation from now Florida will be hacked to bleeding pieces by its inevitable “Year of the Machete” and disappear into dusty history books, no longer a part of the United States in any meaningful sense. About a generation from now the demographics of southern Florida will be much like demographics that allowed the ignition of the ethnic rebellion just described and documented, and the third-worldish Florida National Guard will likewise turn to looting and then to actually attacking the few remaining European “racists.”

Know this: Haiti is where Haitians are. Cuba is where Cubans are. When some future natural or man-made disruption causes your multiethnic paradise of southern Florida to jump the rails, these Caribbean colonizers will react just as they do in the third-world delights they paddled in from. The disorders will be so widespread that the imperial center will not have sufficient formations to restore order for weeks or months, if at all.

Furthermore, the imperial (read federal) military formations upon which a supposed restoration of order depends are likewise undergoing an ominous transformation. The United States Army is now twenty-nine percent African. A generation from now the Untied States Army will be predominately black and Hispanic with hardly a scattering of Europeans. Ask yourself if a military force so constituted will defend the Europeans in Florida from attacks by blacks and Hispanics.

Europeans in southern Florida will have to evacuate through mile after mile of streets littered with rubble from looted stores. They will somehow have to run roadblocks set up by liquored-up street gang brothers and machos with machetes and assault rifles. Gas stations to refuel at? Forget it. Fires will rage everywhere, the flames and smoke eliminating many possible escape routes. Can you depend on the National Guard to ride shotgun on evacuation convoys? They’ll be busy handing out guns from looted armories to their “brothers.”

Do you live in southern Florida? If you do be advised that your Globalist-decreed multiethnic paradise is headed straight towards a traditional, Caribbean-style election-by-machetes. Sell out and get out now before all you can get for your house is the price of a tarpaper shack in Port-au-Prince. Get out of Florida now, or get ready for ... The Year of the Machete.


  From the New York Times Sep. 22, 1989
New York Times’ caption reads: “Valerie McDermott holding a machete as she stood guard over a pickup truck yesterday in Christiansted, on St. Croix in the Virgin Islands. Looters and armed gangs roamed the town’s devestated streets.”

Link to original artical at the New York Times

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Posted by James Bowery on May 15, 2009, 09:55 AM | #

Robert Reis writes: “His subsequent research has led him to identify our rulers.”

My response to the conspiracy paradigm is always the same:

Not even those who promulgate the conspiracy paradigm believe it, for if they did it would be a relatively straight forward special forces operation to neutralize the conspirators, once identified as such.  Even if you killed them and their families and a few thousand in collateral damage:  Compare that to the loss, or even prospective loss of 50% of the North American population.  I mean we’re continually told that the conspirators are behind the “preemptive war” rules of engagement, and its not like there hasn’t been enough provocation.

Honestly, I just don’t get organizations like the JBS, unless they are lightning rods.  I happen to think they are extended phenotypes of Jewish virulence, but that’s not to simply dismiss the conspiracy paradigm.  I mean, even if there IS a conspiracy behind it all, and the Illuminati or whoever are using Jews as scapegoats—why not mount a special forces op?

PS: An answer to a defensive maneuver that has been tried on me:  No, I’m not talking about a a coup.  I’m talking about quelling a “conspiracy”.

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Posted by Robert Reis on May 15, 2009, 10:11 AM | #

“Not even those who promulgate the conspiracy paradigm believe it, for if they did it would be a relatively straight forward special forces operation to neutralize the conspirators, once identified as such.  Even if you killed them and their families and a few thousand in collateral damage:  Compare that to the loss, or even prospective loss of 50% of the North American population.”

Perhaps Mr. Chittum has compiled his list so that patriots might take the appropriate action.

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Posted by James Bowery on May 15, 2009, 10:30 AM | #

“Perhaps Mr. Chittum has compiled his list so that patriots might take the appropriate action.”

Perhaps—but how long as the JBS been around?  How many WW II vets were in the JBS?  How many decades does this compilation of “lists” have to go on, and how many people have to be “awakened”?

I am far from accusing JBS members or others of similar bent of being cowards.  They just don’t have confidence in their own purported beliefs.  Acting on inadequate intelligence isn’t courage—its hubris.  Maybe I am calling them “hypocrites” to some extent but not to any great extent.  Our situation is desperate.

PS:  I know conspiracies are part of the fabric of history and a fact of daily life.  Every time someone has a private conversation there is an element of “conspiracy” from someone’s perspective.  I view these conspiracies, even the establishment of the Fed and the 16th Amendment, to be relatively mundane compared to the grand sweeps of population genetics, human ecology and group metabolic pathways.

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Posted by danielj on May 15, 2009, 11:18 AM | #

James, I want to agree with you that there is no vast conspiracy, and generally agree there is not one, but events like Ruby Ridge make me wonder.

Why all the resources wasted going after one tiny, unimportant man out in the middle of nowhere?

Why the baiting and entrapment?

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Posted by James Bowery on May 15, 2009, 12:14 PM | #

Incidents like Randy Weaver’s demand an explanation—no doubt.  But what is the explanation?  Going after Randy Weaver’s family just seems crazy.  Indeed, what conspiracy worthy of our “respect” as a conspiracy would be so vigilant about “one tiny, unimportant man out in the middle of nowhere”.  I just see virulence—an autoimmune response run amok due to a systemic infection and hijacking of the immune system of the body politic.  I’m not saying I’m right to just see that.  Maybe I’m missing something but really, I just don’t get it:

Either the conspirators are so insane as to guarantee their own downfall or there is only the virulence of a pathogen that “thinks” about as much as a slime mold does about what it is really doing.

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Posted by Jupiter on May 15, 2009, 12:17 PM | #

Whether or not you believe there will be a race war depends on the assumptions you make about what you think the Native Born White Population is willing to put up with and give up to accomodate post-1965 non-whites.

So let us think about it. Will Native born White Americans tolerate a California that is foriegn,that is to so no longer under US control. A California where there is absolutely nothing that Native Born White Americans can do about chinese and hindu nationals spying and stealing military and industrial technology. Aactually once the demographics completly changes it will no longer make sense to call chinese-hindi espionage for the place will effectively belong to the chinese and hindus.

I believe that there are going to be very serious untenable contradictions in the minds of illions of Native Born White Americans when it becomes very clear that California,Texas,Arizona and New Mexico are effectively foreign nations. Something has gotta give. One of the first myths to go is the idea the America is an idea nation

I beleive that it will become clear to millions of Native Born White Americans that several Nations such as china will have extetnded its borders at least a hundred miles deep into America. A lot of national myths are going to be shattered.

I beleive that die hard Whitre Rpublican voters are going to be invery big trouble. For one thing, there vrey well bre a large population of racially concious Whites who will view them as both imbecilles and traitors. Who lost America? A case can be made that die hard Republican voters, that is to say members of the Rush Limbaugh-Fox News Audience, may be retaliated against for having keep the game going for so long. Some of them may be wasted out of disgust.

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Posted by Jupiter on May 15, 2009, 12:23 PM | #

I also want to say that on balance Alex Jones is a fucking crack pot and a race traitor of the worst kind. He is happy about the fact that White Americans are becomming a racial minority.

What jones is basically advocating is society of cowboys raping and pillaging the landscape according to unregulated free wilding principles. And the let the predatory asians in by the millions while your at it…after all they are legal immigrants.

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Posted by danielj on May 15, 2009, 12:38 PM | #

I’m not saying I’m right to just see that.

I think I see it too. The zeitgeist itself is infected.

I’m still new to all this I suppose.

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Posted by Jupiter on May 15, 2009, 12:46 PM | #

Enough of the 9/11 conspiracy theory. excrement.You have been exposed as liars and ultimately as imbecilles many times over.  Jason Bermas has had his assed kicked in on several occasions in sevral debates. Don’t challlenge me to a debate. It is over. I am not just exprssing my utter disgust with the 9/11 truth movement.

And don’t tell me about the scientic dissidents. When the fraud Uri Geller went around claiming he bent spent spoons with his mind there were dozen of scietific experts trying to figure out the science behind it…including one nobel prize winer in physcis..viewd as a crank now by his colleagues…Brian Josephson.

The situation is dire. If Non-whites become a majority in the military and police forces they will murder whites..white woman will be the booty and plunder. Thomas J Flemming and Sean Scallon now argue that all Native Born White Americans have to do is find some “unknown”
rural town to retreat to, study ancient texts all day, pull out the confort chair,put on the pajamas and bathrob,smoke a cigar,drink some vintage merlot and study Latin at night..while the non-whites with genocidal intetent are scaling the walls. Flemming is a fucking imbecile…faileo-conservatives indeed.

John Zimrack,still working on that Great American Novel!!!!

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Posted by the Narrator... on May 15, 2009, 12:57 PM | #

James, I want to agree with you that there is no vast conspiracy, and generally agree there is not one, but events like Ruby Ridge make me wonder.

Why all the resources wasted going after one tiny, unimportant man out in the middle of nowhere?

Why the baiting and entrapment?

Posted by danielj on May 15, 2009, 03:18 PM

What do you suppose Ruby Ridge meant in terms of a NWO?

Not that I disagree with your speculation but I remember watching an episode of COPs or some such show where a sting was set to bust hookers.
Multiple cops, listening devices to get evidence on tape, cameras, vans, a hotel room etc… all to bust a few toothless hookers.

A lot of agencies do a lot of needless bullshit to justify their huge budgets. And harassing a lone White family man is (at least they assumed) a hell of a lot easier than taking down a multi-state ethnic gang or other such entity. It’s also politically correct and thus safe for the carer.

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As for conspiracies, of course they exist. Every day across America people are charged and/or sentenced to jail for conspiring to defraud, murder,extort etc…

I’m sure those in power also get together and plot to manipulate events to suit their own interest and agendas.

I don’t believe there is one great conspiracy involving The Elite. If those types conspire to do anything it is to convince us that they have more control than they actually do.

Things like Ruby Ridge and Waco are more likely a form of psychological warfare to convince us that ‘resistance is futile’.
They do the same thing with stories about immigration and such.

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Chittum observes that nobody wrote a book warning Americans about the bloodbath that the first civil war was about to unleash.
Posted by Robert Reis on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 01:04 PM

I suppose that’s because nobody imagined the vulgar and atrocious extremes the Yankees would employ against their fellow countrymen.

The best description I ever heard of the war that went on between 1861 and 1865 is that, “it was when the Yankees invaded America”.

As for the future I don’t think there will be A civil war. I think there will more likely be a multitude of conflicts, varying in degree, spread out over the next 100 to 200 years.

Most people like to imagine there will be a Big Event and then everything will be resolved within a 5 to 10 year period.
We should be so lucky.

In any case, the future is grim and horrible even if our people come out on the other side stronger than ever.
We have a long, long, dark road ahead.

But it’s a road we must take. And at the end there is light…

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Whether or not you believe there will be a race war depends on the assumptions you make about what you think the Native Born White Population is willing to put up with and give up to accommodate post-1965 non-whites.
Posted by Jupiter on May 15, 2009, 04:17 PM

I often wonder if those in power are not surprised there has been no reaction yet from White America.

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I also want to say that on balance Alex Jones is a fucking crack pot and a race traitor of the worst kind.
Posted by Jupiter on May 15, 2009, 04:23 PM

Alex Jones is just an entertainer. No different than Imus or Stern.

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Posted by James Bowery on May 15, 2009, 01:20 PM | #

The Narrator writes: I often wonder if those in power are not surprised there has been no reaction yet from White America.

They’re junkies in an opiated haze.  The closest thing to rational thought out of them is when they suck up to foreign powers in the hope that when there is a reaction, they can find comfortable refuge.

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Posted by Selous Scout (in California) on May 15, 2009, 01:32 PM | #

I agree with everything said here. Predictions such as these have been made for years. I remember when Chittum’s book first came out, when he was living in (I think) New Jersey. His predictions were quite radical. The situation since then of course has deteriorated. White Americans are in deep s**t.

Can we agree on one thing? There will be war. The initial conflicts will be local at first. A few scattered ‘hate crime incidents’ leading to anti-White race riots, which in turn will provoke action on the part of pissed-off Whites. The spectacle of White women getting abducted and raped will have have a particularly radicalizing effect. The security forces will step in, and, if at that point they are majority non-White, the conflict will escalate to unprecedented levels.

Thomas J Flemming and Sean Scallon now argue that all Native Born White Americans have to do is find some “unknown” rural town to retreat to, study ancient texts all day, pull out the confort chair,put on the pajamas and bathrob,smoke a cigar,drink some vintage merlot and study Latin at night..while the non-whites with genocidal intetent are scaling the walls. Flemming is a fucking imbecile…faileo-conservatives indeed.

Spot on! I stopped reading the Chronicles crowd years ago. They like to imagine themselves in the same role as the Irish monks, I think, preserving Western thought from some impending conflagration. In reality they are fucking cowards, pathetic excuses for White men. No courage, no honour, no balls.

Incidentally I watched a television programme last night on the White prison gang known as DMI/4.13.9. According to security analysts, the gang’s influence and membership are spreading out from the prison system into local communities. It may be vulgar and brutal, but that is probably the way Whites should start organising. Form a gang and get moving.

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Posted by skeptical on May 15, 2009, 01:35 PM | #

I liked Chittum’s initial take on the fragility of the multi-ethnic state and how such a setup is more indicative of empire than nationhood.  In “Civil War Two” he went on to convincingly argue about the inevitable deconstruction of the continental U.S. via racial balkanization, Chittum went so far as to intelligently speculate on the details of how this might actually happen and what to do if the reader wished to survive.  Good stuff.

It really saddens me to know that the same man wrote the following:

The spooks “create false flag rightist groups to stampede leftists into the ranks of their false flag leftist groups, and they create the false flag leftist groups to stampede rightists into their false flag rightist groups.”
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“The London Banking Cartel has to sell global war to the American airheads, hence the 911 terrorist attacks. Dictatorships cannot stampede the people into giving up their property and their liberty without conjuring up both foreign AND DOMESTIC ENEMIES. That’s why a civil war is in the offing. A civil war in America is not only possible – IT IS ESSENTIAL. It’s all part of the plan. Flood the Southwest with millions of Mexicans and then trash the economy so the starving and ticked off Mexicans will burn an entire geographic region right down to the ground. This should be sufficient to stampede the rest of the peasants into accepting anything the London Banking Cartel pukes up and presents as a solution to the resulting mess.”

Talk about undiluted nutbuggery.  What the hell is Chittum smoking here!?!  If the “London Banking Cartel” is already so all-powerful as to sanction an invasion of the American Southwest (numbering in the tens of millions) whilst also trashing the global economy then why does it feel compelled to coerce the “peasants” about anything in the first place?  This kind of thinking isn’t coherent and doesn’t survive even the most basic questions.

To that end, I would submit that there is no secret conspiratorial cabal.  All the evil that has befallen us is conducted in plain sight, the problem is that our people are so conditioned that they aren’t capable of understanding what should be obvious.

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Posted by Selous Scout on May 15, 2009, 01:42 PM | #

Chittum is better on military specifics and combat scenarios, than he is on geo-politics.

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Posted by Captainchaos on May 15, 2009, 01:51 PM | #

The worst thing that can happen to us is that those are part of the existing system co-opt our ideas to the degree necessary to calm the lemmings long enough so that the process of withering our race on the vine is irretrievably advanced.  Steinlight, Fleming, Auster, Hart, Steyn are all our unconditional enemies until they humble themselves before the inviolable imperative of our people’s ability to be.  We must have our revolution, and all that takes any of that from us must be wiped away.

The non-Whites that have been brought amongst us must go.  The Jews and race-traitors who occupy positions of power over the life and death of our people must go.

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Posted by danielj on May 15, 2009, 01:55 PM | #

Things like Ruby Ridge and Waco are more likely a form of psychological warfare to convince us that ‘resistance is futile’.
They do the same thing with stories about immigration and such.

If there is an “us” that needs convincing then there is, as a necessary corollary,  a “them” that is doing the convincing.

You’re assuming the truth of my premises and denying the conclusion here.

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Posted by James Bowery on May 15, 2009, 01:55 PM | #

If Chittum were in my community, I would probably put him on my approval list as president of our actuarial militia.

Selous writes: It may be vulgar and brutal, but that is probably the way Whites should start organising. Form a gang and get moving.

Nowhere is it more important to get moving than in California.

There is an alternative to the vulgar and brutal, Selous.  Read the above article on the actuarial militia.  If Chittum were to comment on that article—detailing what exactly is necessary to make it so that people can start routing their payments to an organization that will defend their territory from foreign invasion—rather than to treasonous governments—I would listen.

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Posted by Jupiter on May 15, 2009, 02:12 PM | #

Thoams J Flemming is basically telling Native Born White Americans to surrender to post-1965 non-whites. That is to say to tribes that want us dead and removed from OUR soil. What do you think:Thomas J Flemming’s daughter dating a darkie?Maybe the devout Christian Flemming is getting some coon snatch on the side?

Flemming is phobic about race. Yet it is the only basis on wich to fight back. And he knows this. Like I said before, Flemming is a faggot.

The garbage he wrote in his “Nations of immigrants” could have been written by Mark Potok a Jew with muderous intentions towards the Native Born White Christian majority.

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Posted by Captainchaos on May 15, 2009, 02:22 PM | #

There is an alternative to the vulgar and brutal, Selous.  Read the above article on the actuarial militia.

The actuarial militia is only the very least that could and should be done in response to such a scenario.  It is a stop-gap measure to tie our people over to the Day of Retribution and Reconquest.  All our strength, all our abilities, must be focused toward the time when we will mount a New (World) Barbarossa to reclaim our Lebensraum from the savages who would slaughter our people.  An Operation conducted with the full intent of removing the interlopers from our land; those that resist will be killed on the spot, those that cooperate can look forward to some life elsewhere.

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Posted by Selous Scout on May 15, 2009, 02:33 PM | #

I am given to understand, from a French New Right chap who knows him well, that Fleming has an aggressively dismissive attitude towards questions of race, due, according to my friend’s speculations, to Fleming’s mixed Euro-ethnic background. But, one could also attribute it to his strong Christian beliefs that probably preclude him from thinking seriously about what can be done on the racial issue. Whatever the truth, I would argue it is representative of the dilemma in which so many European-Americans find themselves: a mixed Euro background + Christianity = muddled thinking on Race.

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Posted by Captainchaos on May 15, 2009, 02:41 PM | #

And after that, or even during, it will be our duty to aid or even assume all of the burden of, reclaiming ALL of our former lands globally for our race.  If the paths of philosophy and of decentralization cannot deliver that they are useless.  We must have Power, the Will to use it, to take and hold by Force, what we Must have for our race.

There is ultimately nothing to lose, and everything to gain, by Total Reconquest, which is Final Victory.

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Posted by Jupiter on May 15, 2009, 02:50 PM | #

Then Thomas J Flemming should go live in Nigeria where there are millions of conservative nigerian potestants. Don’t impose the nigerians on the rest of US. You know, where is the racial solidarity with a Native Born White American family whose bread winner has been replaced by a fucking predatory hindu? Does Flemmig even care about these White Americans? No he would rather wage a hly war against the Mormons of Utah.Or the blue collar ones who were making deent wages in the meat packing industry but were pushed out by the fucking mexicans. How about the minnesota teenager white females who are being raped by Hmong youth for sport? The raping of White women will accelerate one the racial tranasformation is completed.

If the invasion is not repelled, expect the worst. Flemming would rather wage an etnic war within European society than toss out the nonwhite invaders. He is a jackass. The majority non-white population of the future will treat him as a
white. Flemming was probably a spastic uncoordinated teenager who threw a ball like a girl. He is a faggot. One push comes to shove in America,real White American Men will fight rather than let their wives and daughters get gang raped by the post-1965 non-whites. Flemming is a goddam faggot.

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Posted by James Bowery on May 15, 2009, 03:19 PM | #

Captainchaos, the way I see the actuarial militia working is in stages:

1) Create an exclusionary paradigm via the 2/3 majority acceptance/rejection of members.
2) Stop the monetary hemorrhage.
3) Stop the financial hemorrhage.
4) Stop the territorial hemorrhage.
5) Deploy resources toward assortative migration consequent to exclusion (buy outs, relocation assistance, setting prisoners free, etc.).
6) Increase premiums on property rights insurance of those of questionable value to the militia’s territory.
7) Confiscate property of those hostile to assortative migration.
8) Forceably deport those hostile to assortative migration.
9) Kill invaders and, among the resident, those found guilty of espionage/sabotage.
10) Engage in voluntary exchange of information about the various resulting experiments in human ecology.
11) Act according to what is learned from this more scientifically-valid means of discovering ecological laws.

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Posted by Jupiter on May 15, 2009, 03:20 PM | #

A military defeat of the United States will discredit the war mongers and war in general. If the Iranians can sink a US aircraft carrier, this will be seen world wide as a defeat of the worlds greatest military power by one of its victims. It will inspire a world wide revolt against the US military. This will discredit the evangelical base of the Republican party and the Republican(yes I know I’m ignoring the democratic war party) and the Republican party in general. The Christian Evangelicals are going to fall upon some very hard times. they are going to have to do some serious soul searching.But at least now with the Republican party out of business, the way will be prepared for a beach head landing of a full-blown White RAcialist movement to spread across White America. It will be the only game in town for the Native Born White American population.

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Posted by danielj on May 15, 2009, 03:54 PM | #

I would argue it is representative of the dilemma in which so many European-Americans find themselves: a mixed Euro background + Christianity = muddled thinking on Race.

That should probably read overwhelmingly, dominant, majority and I would add that perhaps, no one should forget that.

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Posted by skeptical on May 15, 2009, 04:15 PM | #

I would argue it is representative of the dilemma in which so many European-Americans find themselves: a mixed Euro background + Christianity = muddled thinking on Race.

This statement is meaningless because the average White person in almost any sociological category that you can dream up has muddled thinking on matters of race.  This malady is by no means limited to White Christians of mexied Euro background.

Adding insult to injury, the average Southron U.S. White (self-styled Christians of mixed Euro heritage) is probably less wrong on matters of race than the average secular, unalloyed German.

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Posted by skeptical on May 15, 2009, 04:17 PM | #

“mexied” should have been “mixed”.  My apologies.

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Posted by Captainchaos on May 15, 2009, 04:18 PM | #

10) Engage in voluntary exchange of information about the various resulting experiments in human ecology.
11) Act according to what is learned from this more scientifically-valid means of discovering ecological laws.

JB,

You make it seem as if it were all for the goal of constructing the better controlled experiment to confirm that which you are already convinced off beyond a ‘reasonable doubt’ but for which you would not orient your life as you do.  Assortative migration will be nothing more than the division of what ought to have been our existing territory , i.e., North America.  What is more in the interests of our people, what more maximizes our EGI, getting only part of North America or taking it all back?  Decentralization as the prescribed permanent destination of our race means less Power, and with less Power we will be less likely to ensure our own survival, and to engage in whatever scientific side-indulgences that our luminaries see fit to dabble with.  I doubt you share the “philosophical” opposition to NS by any other name, though it smell as Krautish.  So what is it, why this paralysis of the Will in you?  It has always been (since I became ‘awakened’) my unwavering, iron-hard conviction that we Must have All of our former lands for our race.  After that, we can take the intensity down a notch, but we Must have the fruits of that labor, if it cannot be gotten done by any other means. 

Even Jupiter seems to intuitively grasp that, though he is still hung up on his apparently impenetrably thick-skulled attachment to “Native Born White American” individualism, through which prism he reflexively denounces NS as if it were in anyway a natural cognate of that which is flowery, and faggoty, and a-racial (LOL!).

At some point we have to combine brains and balls, damnit.

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Posted by Bill on May 15, 2009, 05:05 PM | #

Civil War II Chapter II ‘Our Unstable Tiered Society.’  Thomas W Chittum.

I found something similar to this a long time ago by Jonn Fonte entitled ‘Liberal Democracy vs Transnational Progressivism’

Chittum writes, (below) what I think will happen in England in the none too distant future, if events continue as they are.

Here Chittum writes of a tiered society, I prefer to call it a group society.  Just substitute English/England for America/American.

“....Empires are necessarily tiered because a certain group or groups must be given special privileges to enlist their support in the subjugation of the other groups. The more groups an empire has, the more tiers it will have….”

“.....Now that America is fast evolving into an undemocratic multiethnic empire, prudent individuals will reflect upon what tier they’ve been assigned to by our politically-correct social engineers. Even nation-like America was a tiered society, and the top tier was always the English-speaking Europeans. They constituted the top tier because they possessed the greatest military power and were not shy about using it, and they possessed the greatest military power for several brutally simple reasons:”

“.....Eventually, being an American will be meaningless in practical terms, and therefore there will be no point in the continued existence of America at all. Eventually for working-class white Americans, our ethnic group and income level will be our de facto nationality.
. . .The racist euphemism for this systematic dismantling of the rights of English-speaking Europeans is affirmative action. Increasingly, economic opportunities and even legal rights are determined not by your status of being an American citizen or not, but by your ethnic group. Increasingly, government documents require that individuals state their ethnic group. This data is not merely for informational purposes.
. . .The politically-correct social planners have assigned English-speaking Europeans to the very bottom layer of imperial America, and racist affirmative action is the tool they’re using to construct their brave new world. Even though racist affirmative action will suffer occasional setbacks, eventually this racist concept will triumph completely….”

Beyond the tipping point, (maybe before) the English will be consigned to extinction.

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Posted by James Bowery on May 15, 2009, 05:19 PM | #

CC writes:  You make it seem as if it were all for the goal of constructing the better controlled experiment to confirm that which you are already convinced off beyond a ‘reasonable doubt’ but for which you would not orient your life as you do. 

I’ve got religion.  I love my people.  I think and feel that my people are the greatest people in the world.  One of the reasons I love them so much, one of the reasons they are the greatest, is their fairness and love of truth.  I think one of the main reasons others oppose us so much is they see the obvious reality of that greatness and know their only hope to “win” as Renner would put it, is unfair play and obscuring the truth to deceive our people into self-loathing.

At some point we have to combine brains and balls, damnit.

I agree and the starting point is the actuarial militia.  When our people are given the opportunity to truly experience and see reality—then they will love themselves as I love them.  Then it won’t matter whether we are centralized or decentralized.

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Posted by q on May 15, 2009, 06:31 PM | #

Thomas Chittum’s fantasising.

Charles Murray, in his main thesis of the Bell Curve has it right. That is: eventually, when social conditions deteriorate enough, the cognative eleite (i.e. the ruling class) will resort to a harsh crackdown and impose a police-state over the unruly cognative-deficient masses.

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Posted by skeptical on May 15, 2009, 06:49 PM | #

q,

Charles Murray, in his main thesis of the Bell Curve has it right. That is: eventually, when social conditions deteriorate enough, the cognative eleite (i.e. the ruling class) will resort to a harsh crackdown and impose a police-state over the unruly cognative-deficient masses.

I don’t remember reading any of that in The Bell Curve.

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Posted by Don on May 15, 2009, 07:36 PM | #

On topic:


http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=6996


Stresses inevitability of empire splintering into ethnic-specific entities.  Anti-pluralism, anti-imperialism.  Urges close study of the Ottoman Empire to learn more about the role of our semitic brethren, and to understand the inevitability of political break-up.

Notable insight:  the Turkish revolution was largely managed by the Donmeh whose goal was to put Palestine into play.

Novel approach to analyzing problems outlined by Chittum.

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Posted by q on May 15, 2009, 07:42 PM | #

skeptical,

Perhaps the term “police-state” is too hyperbolic (or maybe not). A “totalitarian custodial state” is more accurate. Anyway, Chapter 21, pertains to what I was getting at.

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Posted by skeptical on May 15, 2009, 07:52 PM | #

q,

Thanks for the reference I’ll be sure to check it out.

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Posted by BATTAILE / BATTLE on May 16, 2009, 01:04 AM | #

Liberty and property rights are more important than financial necessity. What good is a full stomach, plasma television, or a new car if you’re a slave to central bankers and the corporate whores which accompany them? What good is the right to vote, when there’s only one party running? Why would those who create the wealth of a nation, the life-line of the government, continue to create wealth when the Welfare State and Corporate Greed has an equal vote for the pillaging of their purse?

THE COMING CIVIL WAR: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3546.0

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Posted by Nobody on May 16, 2009, 02:42 PM | #

There is no conspiracy.  The criminals in charge are making it up as they go along and playing it by ear, hoping to keep this tottering edifice intact as long as possible.  Everybody know this rickety structure is going to collapse at some point and NAMs will go nuts raping, stealing, looting, destroying and the gov’t wil do NOTHING like in LA and NOLA.  It’ll be paralyzed.  The police/local gov’t will do nothing, they’ll be divided by race and indecision and PC anxiety, as usual.  If things are really bad, expect packed flights in Israel…  When it is over, the gov’t will come in to clean up the bodies, maybe.  That assumes there is a gov’t left or if the Feds dare to push its way back into Nuevo Aztlan or New Africa (I believe Chittum is right about that). 
Gun sales are up, ammo sales are up and Spam sales are so high the factory is running 24/7.  Even idiot whites liberals know something is up.  I went to grab some more ammo after work the other day and the guy and his wfie or GF in front of me was buying a Mossberg shotgun and shells.  Not the hunting kind of shotty either.  I paid for my purchase and went outside.  He was getting into a Subaru Forester that had an Obama sticker on it.  If some people in their own SWPL world are uptight, then you can be sure that things are heading south.  As for militias, I believe many will be spontaneous, like in Louisiana.  See here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7824197@N07/460432004/

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 16, 2009, 03:37 PM | #

Mossberg markets a model strictly for use by the novice in self-defense in case of home invasion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossberg_500#Home_security_model

When a shotgun manufacturer markets a product line specifically for that purpose you know something’s gone terribly wrong with society.  (And maybe you oughtta buy a few, one for each member of the family ...... That eleven year old white girl used a Mossberg shotgun the other day to bring down two Mexican killers who’d invaded her home while her parents were away; one of them had just stabbed a white man to death and there can be little doubt that without the Mossberg the girl would have been raped, then snuffed out, either strangled, or her skull bashed in, or her throat slashed.  She took one Mexican down when he got up to her room where she was waiting for him with the weapon, then let the other one have it when she saw him at the bottom of the staircase.  Neither Mexican survived.  Girl had been enrolled in a gun club by her dad and was a crack shot apparently.  Mex killers didn’t stand a chance once they set foot in that house with her in it, armed.  Talk about evening up the odds, a Mossberg’ll do it.)

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 16, 2009, 04:06 PM | #

“When a shotgun manufacturer markets a product line specifically for that purpose you know something’s gone terribly wrong with society.”  (—my comment)

Right, and the name of that “something that’s gone terribly wrong with society” is Jewish hegemony over us.

I demand the old WASP hegemony back.  I’m no WASP but I don’t want to live under the hell the Jews are ramming down our throats, I want to live in the paradise-on-earth the WASPs created, which the jealous, malicious, destructive, twisted Jews destroyed.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 16, 2009, 05:49 PM | #

“then let the other one have it when she saw him at the bottom of the staircase”

Remember that scene in Gone With the Wind where Mélanie Wilkes shoots the marauding Yankee deserter on the stairway as he’s coming up towards her?  Reminds me of it.  Good stuff.  Good girl!

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Posted by battle on May 16, 2009, 06:04 PM | #

Liberty and property rights are more important than financial necessity. What good is a full stomach, plasma television, or a new car if you’re a slave to central bankers and the corporate whores which accompany them? What good is the right to vote, when there’s only one party running? Why would those who create the wealth of a nation, the life-line of the government, continue to create wealth when the Welfare State and Corporate Greed has an equal vote for the pillaging of their purse?

THE COMING CIVIL WAR: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3546.0

Dr. Alexander Tytler, a Scot professor, wrote a scholarly tome called “The Athenian Republic” which was published shortly before the thirteen American colonies gained independence from Britain.

The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependency back again into bondage.

And from the Vermont Guardian:

Support for secession grows among Vermonters. A recent statewide survey conducted by the Center for Rural Studies at the University of Vermont found that the percentage of eligible voters who favor Vermont seceding from the Union States and becoming an independent republic, as it once was between 1777 and 1791, increased from 8 percent in 2006 to 14 percent in 2007.

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Posted by battle on May 16, 2009, 06:10 PM | #

Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 16, 2009: Right, and the name of that “something that’s gone terribly wrong with society” is Jewish hegemony over us. I demand the old WASP hegemony back.  I’m no WASP but I don’t want to live under the hell the Jews are ramming down our throats, I want to live in the paradise-on-earth the WASPs created, which the jealous, malicious, destructive, twisted Jews destroyed.

It Sure Was PARADISE-ON-EARTH Back Then, Fred.

Enemies of My Enemy. The ‘Jewish Threat’:

http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/BenderskyRev.htm

Henry Ford and the Jewish Question:

http://theoccidentalquarterly.com/archives/vol2no4/km-ford2.html

Culture of Critique: Preface (2002)

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-Preface.html

Separation and Its Discontents:

http://www.euvolution.com/articles/chapt5.htm

Whither Judaism and The West ?

http://www.euvolution.com/articles/lastchap.html

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Posted by battle on May 16, 2009, 06:21 PM | #

Sean Hannity published a poll on his website recently that showed half his listeners advocated armed insurrection against the government:

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3695.msg16634#new

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Posted by battle on May 16, 2009, 06:26 PM | #

HANNITY POLL: Half His Listeners Advocate Armed Insurrection:

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3827.0

Sean Hannity — who, with 13.25m listeners, is even more popular than Savage — published a poll on his website recently that showed half his listeners advocated armed insurrection against the government.

———————————————————————————————

What Kind of Revolution? - Sean Hannity Discussion
forums.hannity.com

There’s a lot of talk on this board about armed revolt. I am curious what form of such a revolt the revolutionaries would prefer. I can see a few scenarios:

1. Military Coup - The military deposes the government and declares itself in charge. A junta rules until democracy can be restored, similar to what happened in Pakistan.

2. Armed Rebellion - The fed up civilian population attacks their enemies forcibly. They take to the streets, or wherever they need to go, to ultimately depose the government and install one that follows their own ideals.

3. War for secession - Individual states try to secede and perhaps ultimately must arm to do it.

[...]

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 16, 2009, 07:04 PM | #

“There’s a lot of talk on this board about armed revolt. I am curious what form of such a revolt the revolutionaries would prefer.”  (—Battle)

We don’t “prefer” any form of armed revolt.  We prefer that this thing be resolved without violence of any kind.  That is our strong preference and it can and will happen — a peaceful resolution of this crisis — if enough people come to understand what is going on.  When I said it might be a good idea to arm ourselves with shotguns against the threat of home invasion I meant as a defensive measure (and of course only in areas where such weapons are legal, which would be most places in the U.S.).  No one here advocates violence.  Everyone here will fight to the death if violence which we don’t want and never wanted ends up breaking out.  Until that point, which all here hope never comes, we reject and condemn violence as a means of resolving these issues:  we don’t want it and consider it the worst possible next step.  That said, the other side did not eschew violence in order to cement their 1960s take-over of the institutions:  the frequent outbreaks of pro-“leftist” violence that occurred during the roughly eight years from the end of 1964 to around 1972 or 3 were not spontaneous but carefully orchestrated by the other side in order to put additional fear into the power-holders of that era, the “establishment” of that era, to up the ante dramatically, forcing that era’s establishment to either commit for real to a massive armed crack-down and the threat of a hot civil war, or compromise and make concessions.  That era’s establishment opted to compromise and make concessions.  Thus did we get things like the revolutionary, anti-white civil rights legislations and immigration legislation of that decade.  Violence and the explicit threat of far worse violence were very carefully used by the other side to wring those concessions from that era’s establishment, who were scared by it and lost their nerve, and to help cement the other side’s long-term power position over the society.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 16, 2009, 07:16 PM | #

The other side used the threat of violence just this last election, saying first that there would be massive Negro, Hispanic, and other non-white violence if Obama didn’t win the Democrat Party nomination for president, and then that there would be massive Negro, Hispanic, and other non-white violence if he lost the presidential election.  Those threats were real, ominous, we kept hearing them over and over, the Jewish-controlled mass media were complicit in announcing them, and no one condemned them, no one.  So, the other side certainly has used and continues to use violence and the threat of violence to get what it wants.

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Posted by q on May 16, 2009, 07:38 PM | #

“Girl had been enrolled in a gun club by her dad and was a crack shot apparently.”—Fred Scrooby

The salient point is she was a crack shot.

http://www.survivalplus.com/defense/page0001.htm

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Posted by battle on May 16, 2009, 07:39 PM | #

Fred Scrooby on May 16, 2009: The other side used the threat of violence just this last election, saying first that there would be massive Negro, Hispanic, and other non-white violence if Obama didn’t win the Democrat Party nomination for president, and then that there would be massive Negro, Hispanic, and other non-white violence if he lost the presidential election.  Those threats were real, ominous, we kept hearing them over and over, the Jewish-controlled mass media were complicit in announcing them, and no one condemned them, no one.  So, the other side certainly has used and continues to use violence and the threat of violence to get what it wants.

Obama’s father was never a U.S. citizen; he was a citizen of Kenya here in the U.S. on a student visa, which by itself made Obama/Soetoro ineligible for presidency, regardless of whether he was born in this country or Kenya, or whether he later lost his U.S. citizenship while immigrating to Indonesia and obtaining Indonesian citizenship (by being adopted and naturalized), and later reaffirming his Indonesian citizenship while traveling on a Indonesian passport as an adult, and also most likely obtaining taxpayer funded financial aid as a Foreign Exchange student from Indonesia (Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship and any U.S. citizenship would therefore have to be relinquished).

You can’t talk only about the birth certificate and not see an elephant in the room, which is Obama’s British citizenship at birth, based on his father’s citizenship. You can’t talk about his birth certificate only and not demand immediate investigation of his numerous reported social security numbers, reported forgery of the Selective Service Certificate, perjury on the Illinois Bar application, all the evidence of campaign contributions fraud, charitable foundations fraud, tax fraud and numerous reports of his supporters being engaged in cyber crimes, intimidation, harassment, identity theft and all the other related crimes.

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3765.0

It is possible that Obama may not even be a U.S. citizen!

NATURAL-BORN: “Of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty”:

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=1518.0
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3332.0
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3343.0
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3084.0
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3007.0
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3129.0
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3246.0

Both the Founders and the first Congress, which passed the 1790 Naturalization Act, defined a “natural born” citizen as one “whose citizenship is established by the jurisdiction which the United States already has over the parents of the child, not what is thereafter acquired by choice of residence in this country.”

The Naturalization Act of 1790 was designed to make it clear that people born overseas to American parents are already “natural-born” and do not need to be “naturalized.” Whoever drew the act followed closely the various parliamentary statues of Great Britain; and its language in this relation indicates that the first congress entertained and declared that children of American parentage, wherever born, were within the constitutional designation, “natural-born citizens.” The act is declaratory: but the reason that such children are natural born remains; that is, their American citizenship is natural—the result of parentage—and is not artificial or acquired by compliance with legislative requirements.

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Posted by battle on May 16, 2009, 07:51 PM | #

We don’t “prefer” any form of armed revolt.  We prefer that this thing be resolved without violence of any kind.  That is our strong preference and it can and will happen — a peaceful resolution of this crisis — if enough people come to understand what is going on.  When I said it might be a good idea to arm ourselves with shotguns against the threat of home invasion I meant as a defensive measure (and of course only in areas where such weapons are legal, which would be most places in the U.S.).  No one here advocates violence.  Everyone here will fight to the death if violence which we don’t want and never wanted ends up breaking out.  Until that point, which all here hope never comes, we reject and condemn violence as a means of resolving these issues:  we don’t want it and consider it the worst possible next step.  That said, the other side did not eschew violence in order to cement their 1960s take-over of the institutions:  the frequent outbreaks of pro-“leftist” violence that occurred during the roughly eight years from the end of 1964 to around 1972 or 3 were not spontaneous but carefully orchestrated by the other side in order to put additional fear into the power-holders of that era, the “establishment” of that era, to up the ante dramatically, forcing that era’s establishment to either commit for real to a massive armed crack-down and the threat of a hot civil war, or compromise and make concessions.  That era’s establishment opted to compromise and make concessions.  Thus did we get things like the revolutionary, anti-white civil rights legislations and immigration legislation of that decade.  Violence and the explicit threat of far worse violence were very carefully used by the other side to wring those concessions from that era’s establishment, who were scared by it and lost their nerve, and to help cement the other side’s long-term power position over the society.

AMERICANS HAVE TWO OPTIONS: REVOLT OR DIE: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3132.0

THE Anglo-Saxons declare war only as a last resort. It is a remedy for an awful situation. The sword, in other words, no longer means that they propose to cut their way by force in the world, but that they will sacrifice everything, life, property and happiness, if necessary, to maintain peace, freedom, justice and social order, which they believe to be the supreme considerations that make life worth living.

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3216.0

It has become apparent to most Americans that both houses of our Congress, just like the British Parliament of the 1760’s and 1770’s, no longer represents the interests of the American people.

Americans are fast approaching a point of frustration and anger with their own government similar to what the American colonists reached in 1776. They want to take their country and government back.

We hold no illusions about ever being able to realize anything concrete through parliamentary measures.

There is no way for America to attain redress using constitutional measures. These FACTS are very difficult for Patriots to accept. They bring home, as nothing else can, the tragedy of our loss. The battle to save Western Civilization from extinction therefore will be fought NOT in the Halls of Congress, as patriots would wish, but among the hedge-rows and in the streets of North America - where our forefathers fought.

Nothing, absolutely nothing by way of Anglo-Saxon institutions remain intact: this effectively means that America as it had been known for about 150 years has been wiped out more cleanly than if it had been defeated in a sudden war.

The society is a shambles and the economy slips more every day.

The polarization of the people and the government is so total that few even among the Movement can grasp its fullness.

Because the U.S. government has denied constitutional redress to Americans, only two options remain: REVOLT or DIE.

There is no need of revolution in a healthy State and society and indeed there can be no talk of it. Each revolution has been preceded by the SELLING OUT of the existing ruling class. And who else but they are in charge of all the building blocks of a civilization’s government, church, profession, military, arts, etc.? These things all go when the ruling class sells out and becomes decadent, unfit to rule any longer. This amounts to total revolution.

We’re talking about a very large body of people who have sold out, or, perhaps better put, have burnt out. With no vital signs left. Yet, to remove them would be to see the U.S. at an end. Not to remove them will be to see another Africa arise on the North American Continent. It is not so much a conspiracy as it is a head being out of touch with its body but yet striving to make certain that the body becomes as vile and perverse as the head, thus spelling doom for the entire organism.

The mark of a revolutionary movement can only be seen in its complete separation from the current establishment. It is completely apart.

It is not apart because it can’t make the grade in the sick society, but rather because it can’t stomach it and refuses to be part of it. IT IS SET APART BECAUSE IT IS DISCIPLINED, SOBER AND AUSTERE, TRULY MORAL.

It is a revolution because - finding itself faced with an absolute abomination - it has as its highest priority the destruction of the System and therefore is not some piddling conservative sideshow crusade. It can and does reject the prevailing decadence of the sick society, not because of any leftover code of taboos but because to dissipate oneself in such a manner is counter-revolutionary.

It has historically been the task of each revolution to destroy that which is unclean. That accomplished, nature and man can once again assume their proper course upward.

The future is inevitable, it is difficult, and it is filled with heroes, martyrs and glorious victories.

THE COMING VIOLENT REVOLUTION IN THE U.S.: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3807.0


Abolishing Lawless Government: “Government by consent also focuses on the unalienable right to disestablish a tyrannical or lawless government, that is, the right to alter or abolish the form of government. The Declaration asserts: [W]henever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=2858.msg12989;topicseen#msg12989

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Posted by GR on May 16, 2009, 08:44 PM | #

We prefer that this thing be resolved without violence of any kind.

I’m not sure that’s Captainchaos’ opinion. Nor, mutatis very much mutandis, would it be mine. A major criterion for many white nationalists is the promise of coming violence against their racial enemies. I think that’s reasonable. A bloodless turn-around sounds nice, and it’s useless to juggle the two impossibilities of bloodless or bloody revolution, but I’m talking here about basic motivation, the semantic means to maintain the rank and file’s interest in white nationalism. Different temperaments at play. Some will go for the quiet working-behind-the-scenes model envisioned by GW. Many more are hungry for an outlet for their legitimate bloodlust.

Both scenarios being impossible, I shift from one to the other according to mood. Some days I want to pike Jews and drink their blood at table; other days I want to see them off firmly, yet cordially, to wherever it is they’re expected to go in the Land of The Impossible White Revolution.

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Posted by James Bowery on May 16, 2009, 08:50 PM | #

Battle, the resistance should be passive strength in the form of actuarial militias awaiting the arrival of the criminals—especially the criminals under color of law.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 16, 2009, 09:11 PM | #

“Both scenarios being impossible,”  (—GR this week; anyone’s guess what he’ll sign as next week)

If your position is that a favorable violent and a favorable peaceful outcome are both “impossible” — all outcomes favorable to our side are “impossible,” in other words — why are you here?  Go away.  We’re not game-players, ego-trippers, or demoralizers, neither do we covet that ilk’s company.

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Posted by GR on May 16, 2009, 09:25 PM | #

So your problem, Fred, is not that I want to vampirize Jews, but that I don’t believe we’ll win out against them ... which threatens you for some reason. Who is threatened by disbelief? —- Believers. People with something to hide ... from themselves.

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Posted by torgrim on May 16, 2009, 09:33 PM | #

q…
“Girl had been enrolled in a gun club by her dad and was a crack shot apperently.”-Fred Scrooby

“The salient point is she was a crack shot.”

I say good for the girls dad! A gun club is an excellent place to learn how to be safe and confortable with a weapon.

The nice thing about a defensive weapon like a shotgun and especially the Mossberg, is that one does not need to be a “crack shot”, it is a scatter gun, one only needs the ability to have become competent with it and not afraid to defend oneself.

Interestingly, this happened in one of the “Fly Over States”, where weapons are common place.
Again, good for her and her dad!

btw, even though the msm did not report this, you can be sure that it is well known via, the “sagebrush telegram”...

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 16, 2009, 09:34 PM | #

“A major criterion for many white nationalists is the promise of coming violence against their racial enemies.  I think that’s reasonable.”  (—GR)

It’s not reasonable.  What’s reasonable is to want a resolution favorable to our side, a non-violent one if possible.  Feelings of disappointment or lack of motivation in the event violence proves avoidable is not reasonable.  No one wants violence, CERTAINLY not if it’s not necessary.  To hold another view is insane.  You’re at the wrong blog, GR.  We here aren’t like you.

“A bloodless turn-around sounds nice, and it’s useless to juggle the two impossibilities of bloodless or bloody revolution, but I’m talking here about basic motivation,”  (—GR)

“Basic motivation”?  You can be confident that the “basic motivation” of the men peopling this blog is assured even if there’s a prospect of “a bloodless turn-around” — hard as that may be for you to believe.  And, more than “sounds nice,” a “bloodless turn-around” would be viewed by the men at this blog as a Godsend.  You talk as though you view violence as an end in itself rather than viewing the achievement of our goals as the sole “end in itself.”  If violence comes through the other side’s doing, no man here will shrink from it.  But no man here wants it.

“the two impossibilities of bloodless or bloody revolution”  (—GR)

In other words, you view both a peaceful (“bloodless”) and a violent (“bloody”) resolution of these issues as impossible.  If you consider all resolution of these issues impossible, why are you here?

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Posted by battle on May 16, 2009, 09:43 PM | #

GR on May 17, 2009: So your problem, Fred, is not that I want to vampirize Jews, but that I don’t believe we’ll win out against them

IF you “don’t believe we’ll win out against them,”  to quote Fred, “why are you here?”

First of all, JEWS are not demigods. They’re as flawed as people can be.

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Posted by battle on May 16, 2009, 09:53 PM | #

“If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.” Federalist 28

WAR should always be the last resort. It is a remedy for an awful situation.

Whither Judaism and The West ?

http://www.euvolution.com/articles/lastchap.html
http://home.comcast.net/~neoeugenics/whither.htm

In the United States we are presently heading down a volatile path—a path that leads to ethnic warfare and to the development of collectivist, authoritarian, and racialist enclave.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 16, 2009, 09:53 PM | #

“So your problem, Fred, is not that I want to vampirize Jews, but that I don’t believe we’ll win out against them ... which threatens you for some reason. Who is threatened by disbelief? —- Believers. People with something to hide ... from themselves.”  (—GR)

I find that completely unintelligible.  Explain yourself some other way if you want a reply but don’t put it in language only another asshole can understand.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 16, 2009, 09:57 PM | #

I think GR is playing games and is here on an ego-trip.  He’s unserious, a game-player, and just all-around bad news, and I think GW should I-P ban the creep.

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Posted by battle on May 16, 2009, 10:17 PM | #

UNITED NATIONS TO OUST ISRAEL
« on: Today at 07:04:00 PM »

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3845.0

Nepos Libertas said…

With WWIII brewing, comes the opportunity to “clean house’ in Washington (Govt, Congress, White House, etc). Exterminate THEM ALL (except the good few ones—you know who—who should be granted protection) for . . . HIGH TREASON.

Founding Fathers are rolling in the grave at the incredible corruption of Washington in iron-clad US-Israel relations that subvert U.S.‘s right to total sovereignty.

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Posted by coldequation on May 16, 2009, 11:41 PM | #

The story about the home invasion thwarted by the little girl is fake:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/homeinvasion.asp

As far as armed revolt goes, it would be crushed by the government.  Somebody brought up the successes that the 60s leftists had with violence, but the leftists had friends in high places.  That’s why they ended up getting amnesties, professorships, friendships with presidents, etc.  If David Duke had blown up a building in 1972, do you think he would have ever gotten out of prison?  Likewise, the right (white lynch mobs, the first incarnation of the Klan) got away with a lot in the South before the civil rights era.  The key is who the judges, police and politicians sympathize with, and it’s not the right at this time and place.

The present government would have to become much weaker before any sort of armed revolt would have a chance.  But that might happen.  The first step would be for the world to ditch the dollar so that the US can’t just print as much money as it likes without hyperinflation, and Obama is working on that with his multi-trillion dollar deficits.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 17, 2009, 12:39 AM | #

“The story about the home invasion thwarted by the little girl is fake”

Well, it made for a nice mental picture just the same.  Thanks for the detective work.

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Posted by battle on May 17, 2009, 01:06 AM | #

The present government would have to become much weaker before any sort of armed revolt would have a chance.  But that might happen.  The first step would be for the world to ditch the dollar so that the US can’t just print as much money as it likes without hyperinflation, and Obama is working on that with his multi-trillion dollar deficits.

It’s Not a Question of If, but When. We’re talking about a very large body of people who have sold out, or, perhaps better put, have burnt out. With no vital signs left. Yet, to remove them would be to see the U.S. at an end. Not to remove them will be to see another Africa arise on the North American Continent. It is not so much a conspiracy as it is a head being out of touch with its body but yet striving to make certain that the body becomes as vile and perverse as the head, thus spelling doom for the entire organism. The people of this country and indeed most of the West have been betrayed by their own rotten leaders. This is why no renaissance can be possible here. Only revolution. It must be DEATH to an entire strata of the population…and a new fresh ruling elite established.

America is a nation of different conflicting customs, mores, races, languages and morals, which divides us. As Lincoln said, “a house divided cannot stand”.

Contemporary multiculturalism in the context of high levels of immigration of peoples of all racial and ethnic groups presents the greatest challenge to Western universalism in its history. The problem of immigration of non-European peoples is not at all confined to the United States but represents a severe and increasingly contentious problem in the entire Western world and nowhere else: Only European-derived peoples have opened their doors to the other peoples of the world and now stand in danger of losing control of territory occupied for hundreds of years.

Ethnic separatism has historically been a divisive force within societies. It has on several occasions unleashed enormous intrasocietal hatred and distrust, ethnically based warfare, expulsions, pogroms, and attempts at genocide. Moreover, there is little reason to suppose that the future will be much different. At the present time there are ethnically based conflicts on every continent, and clearly the establishment of Israel has not ended ethnically based conflict for Jews returning from the diaspora.

In the United States we are presently heading down a volatile path—a path that leads to ethnic warfare and to the development of collectivist, authoritarian, and racialist enclave.

Obama is NOT a natural born citizen, *regardless* of birth location:

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3302.0

NATURAL-BORN: “Of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty”:

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=1518.0
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3332.0

Obama’s father was never a U.S. citizen; he was a citizen of Kenya here in the U.S. on a student visa, which by itself made Obama/Soetoro ineligible for presidency, regardless of whether he was born in this country or Kenya, or whether he later lost his U.S. citizenship while immigrating to Indonesia and obtaining Indonesian citizenship (by being adopted and naturalized), and later reaffirming his Indonesian citizenship while traveling on a Indonesian passport as an adult, and also most likely obtaining taxpayer funded financial aid as a Foreign Exchange student from Indonesia (Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship and any U.S. citizenship would therefore have to be relinquished).

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3765.0

Whatever road we take Obama was right about bringing change to America. For we are now in the first phase of the revolution. In France the immediate cause of the revolution was state finance in 1774, when Louis XVI appointed Jacques Turgot to reform the financial system. Does Obama’s appointment of Timothy Geithner as Treasury Secretary echo a familiarity? As US food prices continue to rise and shortages appear, will Lady Obama say, “let them eat cake”.

In the 2nd phase of the French Revolution after the failure of the Finance Minister, the people, no longer sheeple, took over the Paris Government (Washington in our case) and the French guard joined in. After came Robespierre and the “reign of terror” in which those who were deemed responsible for governments’ failure were guillotined. Which way will America go in its 2nd phase? The Tea Parties have already begun. Has Napoleon been born?

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3459.msg15902#msg15902

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Posted by the Narrator... on May 17, 2009, 02:40 AM | #

If there is an “us” that needs convincing then there is, as a necessary corollary, a “them” that is doing the convincing.

You’re assuming the truth of my premises and denying the conclusion here.

Posted by danielj on May 15, 2009, 05:55 PM

I’m just not sure what your premise is.

My reference to them trying to convince us not to resist was more of how the media portrayed events there rather than what actually happened. Because what actually happened there would have the opposite effect.
The ATF at Waco spent more time and money on media relations in preparation of the siege than anything else.

The actions of the FBI,ATF etc.. are not directed at a specific us, but rather at a generic us.

David Koresh, like Jim Jones before him, led a multicult -multi-racial- church. Not that that in any way justifies what happened there. It doesn’t. But people like Koresh would consider us to be “evil” because of our views on his degenerate church’s race mixing.
If I remember right (I think it was from the Rules of Engagement film) the local KKK out there was rooting for the ATF to storm the place.

Far too many of those in the Patriot movement have been (and still are) focused exclusively on NWO and Police State type concerns all the while their nation, through immigration, has turned into a third world banana republic where, in a few years, those same “stop the police state” types will be petitioning for just that to protect them from the flood of hispanic gangs roaming the land.

America is headed in the opposite direction of a police state.

And if there were to be another civil war in America, half of the Whites would be with the Them, not Us….

...

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Posted by battle on May 17, 2009, 03:05 AM | #

In the long run, globalism and multiculturalism are a threat to almost everyone’s ethnic interest because both ideologies actually legitimize and increase ethnic competition. Globalism results in increased competition because everyone has potential access to everyone else’s territory, opening opportunities for plundering another’s backyard. Multicultural societies sanction ethnic mobilization because they inevitably become cauldrons of competing ethnic interests. In this very dangerous game of ethnic competition, some ethnic groups are better prepared than others. Ethnic groups differ in intelligence and ability to control economic resources. They differ in their degree of ethnocentrism, in the extent to which they are mobilized to achieve group interests, and in how aggressively they behave toward other groups. They differ in their numbers, fertility, and the extent to which they encourage responsible parenting. They differ in the amount of land and other resources held at any point in time and in their political power. Given these differences, it is difficult at best to ensure peaceful relations among ethnic groups. Even maintaining a status quo in territory and resource control is very arduous, as can be seen by the ill-fated attempts of Americans to achieve an ethnic status quo with the 1924 immigration law. Accepting a status quo would not be in the interests of groups that have recently lost land or numbers. It would also likely be unacceptable both to groups with relatively low numbers and control of resources and, conversely, to high-fertility groups. Yet the alternative—that all humans renounce their ethnic group loyalties—seems unrealistic and utopian. Indeed, given that some ethnic groups, especially ones with high levels of ethnocentrism and mobilization, will undoubtedly continue to function as groups far into the foreseeable future, unilateral renunciation of ethnic loyalties by other groups means only their surrender and defeat and disappearance—the Darwinian dead end of extinction. The future, then, like the past, will inevitably be a Darwinian competition. And ethnicity will play a crucial role.

http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3191.0

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Posted by battle on May 17, 2009, 03:12 AM | #

America is headed in the opposite direction of a police state. And if there were to be another civil war in America, half of the Whites would be with the Them, not Us….

Peter Brimelow, citing Brecht, famously likened American immigration policy to an attempt by America’s rulers to dissolve the existing people and elect another. To save themselves white Americans will have to reject the statist idolatry that Huntington misidentifies as patriotism. Confronted with the ruins of their culture, and having been abandoned by the state which purports to represent them, white Americans will have to fall back on their inherited racial and ethnic identities. Only then will the historic American people find the strength to turn the tables on cosmopolitan elites. In the end, white Americans will have to reinvent a ruling class grounded in a genuinely patriotic reverence for the culture of their forefathers. For them, the alternative amounts to suicide.

A “COUNTRY OF A COMMON BLOOD”: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3813.0

RETHINKING THE WHITE AUSTRALIA POLICY: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3810.0

In a wonderful passage, Australian Law Professor Fraser states that he has no objection against African and Jewish groups pursuing their interests in making Australia into a multi-racial society—

“But they must understand that, as Australia becomes a multi-racial society, it is inevitable that Anglo-Australians, having observed the self-interested activities of other racial, ethnic and religious groups, are bound to become more conscious of their own distinctive racial identity. Many white Australians already feel that they are losing their ancestral homeland to a massive influx of Third World migrants hostile or indifferent to the ethnic interests of the host society. … The simple fact is that a multi-racial immigration policy is not obviously and necessarily in the best interests of white Australians.”

WHITE & ENDANGERED: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3809.0

Racial And Ethnic Identity: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3812.0

Huntington Book Is Still Part Of The Problem: http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=3811.0

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Posted by battle on May 17, 2009, 03:25 AM | #

Confronted with the ruins of their culture, and having been abandoned by the state which purports to represent them, white Americans will have to fall back on their inherited racial and ethnic identities. Only then will the historic American people find the strength to turn the tables on cosmopolitan elites. In the end, white Americans will have to reinvent a ruling class grounded in a genuinely patriotic reverence for the culture of their forefathers. For them, the alternative amounts to suicide.

At present the interests of non-European-derived peoples to expand demographically and politically in the United States are widely perceived as a moral imperative, whereas the attempts of the European-derived peoples to retain demographic, political, and cultural control is represented as “racist,” immoral, and an indication of psychiatric disorder. From the perspective of these European-derived peoples, the prevailing ethnic morality is altruistic and self-sacrificial. It is unlikely to be viable in the long run, even in an individualistic society

The prediction, both on theoretical grounds and on the basis of social identity research, is that as other groups become increasingly powerful and salient in a multicultural society, the European-derived peoples of the United States will become increasingly unified; among these peoples, contemporary divisive influences, such as issues related to gender and sexual orientation, social class differences, or religious differences, will be increasingly perceived as unimportant. Eventually these groups will develop a united front and a collectivist political orientation vis-a-vis the other ethnic groups. Other groups will be expelled if possible or partitions will be created, and Western societies will undergo another period of medievalism.

The present tendencies lead one to predict that unless the ideology of individualism is abandoned not only by the multicultural minorities (who have been encouraged to pursue their group interests by a generation of American intellectuals) but also by the European-derived peoples of Europe, North America, New Zealand, and Australia, the end result will be a substantial diminution of the genetic, political, and cultural influence of these peoples. It would be an unprecedented unilateral abdication of such power and certainly an evolutionist would expect no such abdication without at least a phase of resistance by a significant segment of the population. As indicated above, European-derived peoples are expected to ultimately exhibit some of the great flexibility that Jews have shown throughout the ages in advocating particular political forms that best suit their current interests.

It will be ironic that, whatever anti-Semitic rhetoric may be adopted by the leaders of these defensive movements, they will be constrained to emulate key elements of Judaism as a group evolutionary strategy. Such strategic mimicry will, once again, lead to a “Judaization” of Western societies not only in the sense that their social organization will become more group-oriented but also in the sense that they will be more aware of themselves as a positively evaluated ingroup and more aware of other human groups as competing, negatively evaluated outgroups.

The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvment in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements”

http://www.euvolution.com/articles/lastchap.html

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Posted by danielj on May 17, 2009, 08:12 AM | #

And if there were to be another civil war in America, half of the Whites would be with the Them, not Us….

Exactly.

Why is the generic us even a threat when we are a tiny minority without any power or access to media? Why the expansive media campaign to break “us” down.

I’m with you on it all the way, I just think it is strange. Combined with 9/11 I think it is really strange.

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Posted by Jupiter on May 17, 2009, 09:12 AM | #

I am opposed to a White ruling class ruling over millions of Whites. Democracy from the ground up. I am not looking for Furher.  I do not want to be goverened. Being Goverened is a very undemocratic idea. I don’t want to be goverened by the student goverment egghead from high school.

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Posted by Joe on May 17, 2009, 09:25 AM | #

Thomas Chittum never fought in the Croatian war for independence.  He did fight in the ZOG war to ethnically cleanse Serbians from Krajina.

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Posted by Red Mercury on May 17, 2009, 09:30 AM | #

Half of the Whites with Them? I doubt it. Possibly a third, maybe less. Those who are found sitting on the fence should be compelled to provide support for White patriotic movements, in one way or another. Don’t underestimate the anger and growing militancy among Whites. I’m looking forward to seeing this play out.

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Posted by danielj on May 17, 2009, 10:12 AM | #

Half of the Whites with Them? I doubt it. Possibly a third, maybe less.

I don’t know.

I think a lot of keyboard warriors would balk at the prospect of actual violence or the possibility of being “bought” in some form.

I think it would almost certainly be less than half of us taking the other sides tactics into consideration.

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Posted by Guessedworker on May 17, 2009, 10:37 AM | #

Battle/Battaile,

You have continued spamming MR with links to your own site, using quotes from articles to which you simply link from elsewhere.  Now, we are not here to ramp up your traffic.  You earn it the hard way, by offering readers food for the mind from your mind.  But I’m through with your games, and have banned your IP number.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on May 17, 2009, 10:45 AM | #

”I am opposed to a White ruling class ruling over millions of Whites.  Democracy from the ground up.  I am not looking for a Fuehrer.  I do not want to be governed.  Being Governed is a very undemocratic idea.  I don’t want to be governed by the student government egghead from high school.”  (—Jupiter)

In Bowery’s “actuarial militia” proposal, voting is continuous:  at any given moment a vote of no confidence is possible and someone can be democratically voted down or voted out entirely.  Whether you’re in or out is continuously decided, so you’d damn well better be sure of doing a good and honest job fulfilling your responsibilities every step of the way.  You can’t get elected, be sure of having the freedom over the next X number of years to fuck off, take bribes, and break every single one of your election campaign promises, and then shape up for the next election campaign and hope no one will have noticed you’re a crook.  Try that and you’ll be out on your ear the instant you pull your first stunt.

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/actuarial_militia_reform/

That set-up seems about as “ungoverned” as it is possible to get without anarchy.  (Thinkers calling themselves anarchists today, such as Troy Southgate and Joe Sobran, haven’t thought things through in my opinion:  true anarchy is something you DO NOT WANT, if that’s what Jupiter is advocating in his comment above.)

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Posted by Jupiter on May 17, 2009, 12:57 PM | #

Fred

After I made my post, I realized that my views are in some ways very similar to Bowery’s. Everything is going to depend upon a racially radicalized Native Born White Population-socially conservative of course-that is HIGHLY VIGILANT. This means no more sitting in sports stadiums making jocks drooling over wealthy negro men in spandex. Sometimes I wish A meteor would would wipe out a fully packed stadium of White Male jock sniffers. Never incur the wrath of Jupiter.The pornography has gotta go also. To me sports entertainment is a very weird phenomena. And it is also rot,dissispation and a very weird fetish for millions of Native Born White Males that has been taken to even weirder levels in the form of fantasy football.

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Posted by Captainchaos on May 17, 2009, 01:20 PM | #

I am opposed to a White ruling class ruling over millions of Whites.

Geez, coming from a guy who rejects the genetic basis of a Gaussian frequency distribution of intelligence I suppose it would be in vain to suggest “a White ruling class ruling over millions of Whites” is what you will get, anyway you slice it.  But, at least I hope you would concede, it is better that than Jews; which is what we have now.

Democracy from the ground up.

You can’t put modernity back in its bottle.  Dumbocracy is largely obsolete.  At least for Japs and Russians, and they seem to be doing better for themselves than we.

I am not looking for Furher.

And I doubt he is looking for you.

I do not want to be goverened.

It would be a strange democracy in which one could merely not be “goverened” simply by voting it; or a dumbocracy it you will.

Being Goverened is a very undemocratic idea.

Clearly.

I don’t want to be goverened by the student goverment egghead from high school.

Yes, that should not be a problem, as what they may like to do is govern, as opposed to “goveren”.

The way I see it is we have essentially two choices: GW’s philosophy of being or National Socialism.  I know NS can work, because it did historically, that is if we don’t burn too much of our supply of Krauts to pull it off.  We have no definitive evidence that GW’s philosophy will work, putting all our eggs in that basket is an act of faith, and that is much easier to do if one has faith in the man propounding it, which I do.  Let’s hope it does, otherwise, all those G-d damned Krauts burned for nothing, and we will be back where they started.

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Posted by Lurker on May 17, 2009, 01:28 PM | #

Fred, I pointed out that the Patricia Harrington story was fake back on May 11, 2009, 10:50 AM, including links.

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Posted by Captainchaos on May 17, 2009, 01:42 PM | #

In other words, let what is undumbocratic be forever.

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Posted by Fr. John on May 17, 2009, 01:56 PM | #

“I am given to understand, from a French New Right chap who knows him well, that Fleming has an aggressively dismissive attitude towards questions of race, due, according to my friend’s speculations, to Fleming’s mixed Euro-ethnic background. But, one could also attribute it to his strong Christian beliefs that probably preclude him from thinking seriously about what can be done on the racial issue. Whatever the truth, I would argue it is representative of the dilemma in which so many European-Americans find themselves: a mixed Euro background + Christianity = muddled thinking on Race.”

No, it is simpler, and at the same time, far more profound than that.

Fleming (and Chronicles) is a ROMAN Catholic theologically. That theology of Rome, is now at the nadir - poised as they are in a continual ferment over their ‘development of doctrine’ scenarios; and all this,  because a thousand years ago, (1054, to be exact) they (ROME) added a philosophical component to the Creed of Christendom- which, up till that time, had NEVER ventured outside of the ‘Ecumene,’ or what we know as Europe… because the ‘given’ was that the Gospel was never intended for non-whites, and non-Europeans. The reason why we are in the mess we are in today, is because Rome DEPARTED from the faith of Christendom.

The Romans added the ‘filioque’ - the ‘...and the son’ to the creed. That one philosophical nicety about the Holy Spirit, established within 100 years in the West: an autocratic Papacy; established in two hundred years Thomism as the ruling philosophical paradigm in matters pertaining to God; and established in the European Man, the seeds of the Enlightenment, Darwinism, and via that, Marxism, even in the midst of codifying how ‘christian’ governments were to be run.

Byzantium, not having this piece of theological nonsense at her core, continued to have a Christian Empire for almost 500 years longer, kept her theology intact, only to have it destroyed, when a totally Papalized West refused their BROTHERS aid, when the Turk came a-calling. After 400 years of Islamic rule, Byzantium has never recovered, and Greece now more resembles the ‘greasy Turks’ they one abhorred, rather than the ‘fair-haired Olympians’ that once were their ancestral heritage. Race matters, folks. Even in Christendom.

I’ve written about this ad nauseum over at my blog. I fear that the West (and even the co-opted ‘Novus Ordo Orthodox’ under the EP) is still relying (even when she is being at her most secular) on a faulty pneumatology, that elevates MAN over God, in the arena of ‘salvation’ -(which is what the filioque does) -and all the ‘reformations,’ ‘revivals,’, “Great Wawkenings,’ as well as ‘Reconstruction,’ ‘Emancipation,’ ‘rule of the proletariat, and ‘five-year plans,’ on down to ‘hope and change’ etc., are mere outworkings of Fleming’s ( and Chronicle’s) full-blown filioquism - seeking in MAN, as a whole one’s salvation, instead of seeking same from God.  For when the Savior of Christendom becomes a ‘wax nose’ admitting ‘all and sundry’ to the table, instead of ‘the savior of HIS PEOPLE’ [Matt. 1:21] then why have a rationale against race-mixing, multiculturalism, and the genocide of Caucasian Man? As Edwards noted for the last eight months over at www.thepoliticalcesspool.com, if Loving vs. Virginia allowed for ‘mixed-race’ marriages in 1967, is it a mere coincidence that Loving is being used as GROUNDWORK for the ‘gay marriage’ legitimacy rationales now?

We are left without excuse. We are altruising, and philosophizing ourselves into genocide, and no one seems to notice… or care.

Oh, yes, there have been minds that saw the truth- even ‘catholics.’ Belloc (a Convert to Rome, when she most appeared like Western Orthodoxy- and, having said that - even so, Belloc was an Englishman- his inisghts were genetic!) understood it well, even if Rome now does/did not: “Europe is the Faith; the Faith, Europe.” Like the divine and human in Christ’s hypostatic union, the FOLK of Christendom, must be the RACE of Christendom…. or Christendom will be no more.

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Posted by James Bowery on May 17, 2009, 02:37 PM | #

Regarding elites and actuarial militias:  The leaders of militias will be the natural, blood-and-soil elites. 

The fact that they are “democratically” elected should not confuse us because there is a vast difference between military leaders dynamically selected/rejected by 2/3 of the militia members of a community of no more than a few thousand and whatever it is you have in your head about “democracy” at the moment.

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Posted by Jupiter on May 17, 2009, 04:09 PM | #

Well, you know, Thomas J Flemming thinks that if enough young Native Born White Men study ancient texts with him over the summer in Rockford, than every thing will be alright. Now, if this led to a highly radicalized racial idenity it would be a good thing to do, for a highly radicalized facially identity is crucial to repelling to repelling the post-1965 asians,muslims,hispanics,africans and carrribeans Hmong whatever species they belong to.

But, my suspicion is that Tommy J Flemming now sees himself on a mission to steer young Native Born White Men away from White Nationialism. Now I do not think Paleoconservatism is at all incompatible with White Nationalism on Social and cultural issues. However, Tommy Flemming clearly wants to push it in an aracial direction. Perhaps he will feel different about this if his wife and daughter are gang raped by Hmong or paki youth.

The Paleoconservatives are also ecological brain damaged. They have no sense of ecological limits and constraints. They really do beleive that Jesus with just a couple of trout can feed a population of over one billion “Americans” -majority nonwhite. Of course, if you combine White Nationalism with ecology,  there is a fucking catastrophe in the making. If White Americans have a significantly reduced living space-let so something like Sean Scallons little country town-but decide to increase their family size…this combined with the exponentially exapanding post-1965 non-white population..now a majority in this scenario..we are talking a major collpase of ecosystems within the borders of the former territory known as the US. The human population will surley collapse..and this includes the White populatins in Seans Scallons’s small town White America, The situation is far worse than most people understand.

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Posted by Captainchaos on May 17, 2009, 05:04 PM | #

The fact that they are “democratically” elected should not confuse us because there is a vast difference between military leaders dynamically selected/rejected by 2/3 of the militia members of a community of no more than a few thousand and whatever it is you have in your head about “democracy” at the moment.

That all depends upon what those “few thousand” have in their heads, now doesn’t it.  A few thousand Jupiters, and they can elect a James Bowery or a GT as their leader, great.  Yet, even GT concedes we will have to fight the system eventually.  Or are you counting on it to collapse first?  Let us assume that it does, and we can field even a few hundred such militias; why should they not strive for amalgamation under a single Leader, or small group of Leaders, so as to increase their Power to gain the ability to defeat any enemies they must and achieve whatever goals of territorial acquisition they have?  North America was once ours and can be again.  If we don’t have to settle for less why should we?  GT, your brother in decentralization, is on board for an eventual total reconquest.  Will you second that, even if it eventually costs you decentralization?

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Posted by q on May 17, 2009, 06:47 PM | #

“A few thousand Jupiters, and they can elect a GT as their leader, great.”

OMG!

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Posted by James Bowery on May 18, 2009, 01:12 AM | #

CC asks: That all depends upon what those “few thousand” have in their heads, now doesn’t it.

One thing you can count on being in their heads:  The majority acceptance of willingly placing their lives in each others’ hands.

You apparently don’t understand the implications of this.  That’s OK.  You will.

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Posted by the Narrator... on May 18, 2009, 03:09 AM | #

Why is the generic us even a threat when we are a tiny minority without any power or access to media? Why the expansive media campaign to break “us” down.

Posted by danielj on May 17, 2009, 12:12 PM

Because you don’t whip a whipped dog. You whip the untamed one, lest the already defeated one should get ideas.
Basically it looks as though the submission of society is done under a moral banner. The morality of a society defines its cohesiveness in that it defines its political and philosophical underpinnings. Nothing is more subversive than moral subversion. (the 60’s taught us that)
And since the moral underpinnings of AmeriKa is of a leftist paradigm, any rejection of “the true doctrine” is a threat to the regimes establishment of its morality as the one true morality which no person can naturally/honestly deny, let alone defy.

Remember, reality is 99% perception.

Those of us who tread a contradictory path to that of the Leftist morality are living -breathing- testimonies to the reality that the Left’s morality is neither natural nor obvious. 

As an example, the only times I’ve lost my temper in discussions with people is with family. Because when you are confronted with someone of like mind, background and blood who disagrees with something you feel strongly about (politics, law, religion etc..) it’s a shock that either leaves you speechless or aggressively-expressively agitated.
If you’re talking with someone with whom you see little in common with yourself, their divergent opinions generally roll of the back.

And so it is with the left.
They believe their morality is self-evident, natural and inevitable. They’ve invested much of their life in this belief. A belief which operates on the notion that all men are brothers and the only differences are illusions. Thus their morality should naturally be embraced by all.
So when they are confronted by someone who disagrees with them they go ballistic and seek to either “re-educate” the person or silence them completely. (usually the latter)

Our existence (in the rejection of their morality as natural and inevitable) leaves them, literally, shaking with rage and shock.

We are Evidence (with a capital E) that despite all of their desires, prayers, crusades for the cause, rituals and unquestionable faith, neither their heaven nor their god exists. And that drives them mad.

They want the lie so badly that they seek to destroy all evidence to the contrary.

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Belloc was an Englishman- his inisghts were genetic!

Posted by Fr. John on May 17, 2009, 05:56 PM

Funny, Belloc doesn’t sound English.

What I’ve read of his and Chesterton’s writings tends to lead me to believe they both had a bit of anti-English sentiment, courtesy their Catholic religion.

If his ‘Europe is the faith and the faith is Europe’ tirade is true then what would that make ancient Greece, Rome and Germania?
Chinese?
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The way I see it is we have essentially two choices: GW’s philosophy of being or National Socialism.

Posted by Captainchaos on May 17, 2009, 05:42 PM

I know Guessedworker would disagree, but by all appearances it looks as though the National Socialists in Germany tried to instill a version of the Philosophy of Being into their political framework.
In fact that seems to have been the main point for their whole movement of The Folk.

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Posted by o^o on May 18, 2009, 07:52 PM | #

…there is a vast difference between military leaders dynamically selected/rejected by 2/3 of the militia members of a community of no more than a few thousand and whatever it is you have in your head about “democracy” at the moment.

That is correct.

Each militia shall choose its leaders, not vice versa.  Should confederation occur, militia leaders having a knack for political soldiering shall comprise the coordinating committee/s.  No “Ben Franklins” need apply.  Monetary influence will be minimal and the days of tin-potted faileoconservative racialism shall be over.

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Posted by Svigor on May 22, 2009, 06:02 PM | #

When a shotgun manufacturer markets a product line specifically for that purpose you know something’s gone terribly wrong with society.  (And maybe you oughtta buy a few, one for each member of the family ...... That eleven year old white girl used a Mossberg shotgun the other day to bring down two Mexican killers who’d invaded her home while her parents were away; one of them had just stabbed a white man to death and there can be little doubt that without the Mossberg the girl would have been raped, then snuffed out, either strangled, or her skull bashed in, or her throat slashed.  She took one Mexican down when he got up to her room where she was waiting for him with the weapon, then let the other one have it when she saw him at the bottom of the staircase.  Neither Mexican survived.  Girl had been enrolled in a gun club by her dad and was a crack shot apparently.  Mex killers didn’t stand a chance once they set foot in that house with her in it, armed.  Talk about evening up the odds, a Mossberg’ll do it.)

Wait, what’s that sound…Oh, I know - it’s the sound of every single feminist reading this story vomiting at the idea of an 11 year old white girl blowing away two Mexican shitbags with a legally-owned firearm with which she was (choke!) highly proficient.

God damn I love heartwarming tales like this.

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Posted by Svigor on May 22, 2009, 06:07 PM | #

If we lived in a country EVEN REMOTELY APPROACHING sanity, that 11 year old girl would have been doing the talk show circuit, followed by the “all the politicians kiss my ass in public” circuit, then the “book deal” circuit, etc.

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Posted by q on May 22, 2009, 07:53 PM | #

If we lived in a country EVEN REMOTELY APPROACHING sanity, that 11 year old girl would have been doing the talk show circuit ...

Exactly! The luny-Lefts’ twisted thinking would have you believe the invaders are the victims and the defender is the moral reprobate. Luny-Libs dispise white people that defend themselves against criminals - particularly non-white criminals.

Maxim: Black criminals are the liberals’ favorite heroes.

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Posted by torgrim on May 23, 2009, 01:46 AM | #

Here is an article about California. The tax bills failed. Now, one of the few Californian Republican Congressmen, writes about how it was in California a generation ago. He mentions the money woes, the environment, and many other problems, but wait for it….never mentions the meztiso colonization of California as a problem! Here is proof that anyone that holds hope that voting, and reform are going to change things are, just whistling past the graveyard.

California, once a place of clean air, water, good fresh food, open land, unclogged roads, has been stolen, by a criminal gang, dressed up in suits.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/21/warnings-from-the-left-coast/

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Posted by torgrim on May 23, 2009, 01:49 PM | #

More about California….

This has been a cover-up, by media, government, big Ag, banking, and the criminals in high places. As this unwinds and becomes obvious that things are not going back to “normal”, blame will be the order of the day.
This will be a very good time for the Internet to fill in with what really happened to this once, late great place to live.

Here is an article by Glenn Spencer, with links to just how long we have been fighting this cabal of criminals, here in California.

http://www.americanpatrol.com/#top

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Posted by Fr. John on May 25, 2009, 06:47 AM | #

“What I’ve read of his and Chesterton’s writings tends to lead me to believe they both had a bit of anti-English sentiment, courtesy their Catholic religion. If his ‘Europe is the faith and the faith is Europe’ tirade is true then what would that make ancient Greece, Rome and Germania?  Chinese? ” - Narrator

Why should that be, Narrator? Were not the German and the Greek, Roman, and Celt all part of the same Caucasoid family? That’s all I was pointing out.

As for Belloc and Chesterton being anti-English, no. Anti-ANGLICAN (as in established Church of England) yes. For Anglicanism was the only real rival to Roman supremacy, even up until 1940. Now, of course, it is the shell of a faith that once was known as ‘stupor mundi’ Rome is merely dragging along as the cadaver of a huge organization, with as little life in it, as the old communist parties in the 1980’s did.

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Posted by torgrim on May 27, 2009, 05:01 PM | #

California, 21 Billion in debt and growing.
13 million in cuts to the State University system.
No medical for cervix cancer and breast cancer over 65.
80% of the State Parks to close.
No grants for higher ed.
No State grants for dependents
Only emergency medical aide for illegals.

And as usual UCSC, University of California Santa Cruz, is locked somewhere in the late 60’s with their Marxist bullshit.
Here is a link about the SOCC (Students of Color Collective) and their hunger stike…..
http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_12456397

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Posted by Johyn Thomas on August 02, 2011, 11:22 AM | #

Thomas Chittum is a fantastic writer!  I would like to make a few comments on this subject. Maybe Martiun Lindstedt is right also. Lindstedt says only 10 to 15 milliuon whites will survive controlled by 10,000 Warlords, he calls it the Tribuilation. Pastor Dan Gayman beleives that NO CRUSADE CAN BE RAISED because we are in the Death Suicide Phase of Western Christian Civilization. It is a biological clock that has effected all civilization that fell. You try to raise a crusade and the first ones to hang you will be your own people who you are trying to save. Since WW 2 the USA has spent millions and millions of dollars in neutralization programs to destroy and control and undermine the White Race Movements. Gayman says only answer is to live on farms that are self sufficient and have has many babies as possible around other like minded people. In my life time I have seen so many Movements and leaders try to save White America, like SWIFT, Butler, Miles, Beam and many many more. I remember Dewey Tucker and his militant NEWS Party which was militant Identity, the feds put him in Springfield fed Prison, bombed his printing presses and gave him a chemical lobotomy while in Springfield, when he came out of prison he was totally different. I agree with Louis Beam on LONE WOLF TACTICS. To me Robert Matthews and all order members are heros and so is David Lane and many others. Richard Kelly Hoskins is a great writer also. The pre 1978 Mormon Church was fantastic also, very white oriented, now it is only another NEW WORLD ORDER RELIGION. Maybe some White Mormon Lone Wolfs should form a WHITE MORMON CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST and make it more militant than Aryan Nations, KKK or The Order. Everybody attacks Martin Lindstedt, but what he says is all truthful and it makes logic outcome right. Like Begats like, white whiggers will only produce more white whiggers who are loyal the EVIL EMPIRE of Cainites. Wilmont Robertson wrote a book called the Dispossed Majority in that book he says it would be better to have all the large metro citries nuked than go the slow death of our race. Pastor Dan Gayman says that white race is in apostacy and will be punished by GOD. May God and Jesus have mercy on the white remnant and save us from total destruction. May the Sweet Odor of Cedar return and the Raven come soon .  WHITE MORMON POWER! We need alot of WHITE CHuckys!!!!!!!!!!!! Death to the EVIL EMPIRE and all its lackeys.  Yeah WHITE POWER WHITE POWER!!!!

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Posted by John Thomas on August 03, 2011, 04:59 PM | #

Thomas Chittum: You asked if anyone else wrote about Civil War. I would like to point out that George Lincoln Rockwell wrote about it in his book, WHITE POWER! His This Time The World is excellent also. Dewey Buddy Tucker of the National Emancipation of The White Seed Party, a militant pre Aryan Nation Identity group in his Battle Ax News wrote about it. Also Pastor Dan Gayman in his publñications wrote about it. Also George Dietz in his WHITE POWER REPORT of the White Power Movement wrote about it. Then of course there is THE TURNER DIRAIES of William Pierce. Their is many many more like Pastor Robert E. Miles of Mountain Church and Louis Beam who wrote UNDERSTANDING THE STRUGGLE or KILL THE BASTARDS, maybe most excellent article ever written. Pastor Martin Lindstedt is attackled by many because of his language. But guess what, What he says is TRUE, like it or not. His 10,000 Warlords and 10 or 15 million whites left in North America with the 10,000 Warlords. He calls it the Tribulation. Some say you can’t fight the beast, heck our ancestors fought the beast of london in the American Civil War. Then some turn around and say the Rockerfellers and Rothchilds and Royal Families of Europe, who are the Black Nobility and Secret Socities are protected by God because of a promise made to Esau. James McCanney says that the Secret Socities have controlled the earth for 5,000 years. I think it is time to get rid of these bastard snakes. There is nothing wrong with hate, in fact God says hate your enemys with a perfect hate! How can you love and be loyal to something when it is killing your RACE and Culture! All of David Lanes articles are excellent on this subject. I would like to point out that Tom Metzger of War has alot of excellent articles also!  Concerning Miami, Florida and South Florida - Miami was segragated till 1963!!!!! Miami was built by WHITE MEN, not Muds. Griffith the film maker of 1920s who made Klan Movie had a house on Miami River. Highland Park of Miami, Florida had in its deeds on property that it was to remain WHITE FOREVER! Robert Matthews is right , The North American Continent has to be WHITE to the Rio Grande River. The reason the USA is the way it is , is because of the all the WHITE TRAITOR PRESIDENTS, Politicians, Lawyers and Judges with their Judeo Masonic bull crap that we are all one insanity! Thats a damn lie! Richard Butler said that when the money finance falls, all these bastards will get what is due to them. Col. William Potter Gale was brilliant also. Read The Committee of States, a great book. Gale was from a white jewish family in LA, he had to be pure Judean Genes and not Turko Mongolian Khazar blood. I hope and pray that White Mormon Lone Wolfs will form the White Mormon Church of Jesus Christ with all the original teachings of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and Taylor and make it the most racist organization ever formed, more than Aryan Nations, KKK or National Socialist Germany. May God have Mercy on WHITE REMNANT! Death To the Evil Empire! The sweet odor of Cedar returns and the RAVEN! WHITE MORMON POWER!

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