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Was it just Islamic extremism? Or was it really race?In comments for the posts of others, I have speculated that one heretofore unmentioned potential motivation for the London bombings of 7/7 was race – in other words, it wasn’t just about religion and a “clash of civilizations.” Interesting that British authorities are now talking about the involvement of a Jamaican-born, presumably Negro “Briton” in the attack. We may learn that this person was a converted Muslim. His wife is already said to have been so. But we’ll see what else is revealed. Nonetheless, it is quite interesting that the potential of a brown-black anti-white alliance may be here. Comments about how so many of the victims were themselves ethnic minorities do not impress – London is so full of non-whites that any attack aimed at the UK’s capital is bound to harm some members of minority groups. These people were not the targets, just “collateral damage.” Here are some interesting and informative tidbits (Registration)
The last sentence is quite remarkable and should be a wake-up call to people who are focusing only on religion. Racial brawls over girls? Obviously, that preceded the interest in religious beliefs. The following quote also is also of interest:-
Putting aside the absurdity of the “British to the core” comment, one can ask: if religion was the motivating factor, then WHY did these young men become so religious all of a sudden? What was it that made them turn away from being “British to the core” and move toward the path that ended in 7/7? Was it a feeling of alienation due to race? Once again: “young people who brawled with white kids over girls and perceived slights.” Obviously, the NY Times doesn’t quite get it:-
But that is the entire point: the UK was NOT their country, and the majority ethny in the UK was NOT their people. One can speculate that it was this realization that put these young men on the path that culminated in the tragic events of 7/7. To further my thesis of a racial motive, I cite Christian Science Monitor in which we can read:-
Indeed. The problem is that these South Asians are being racist against the British in the British peoples’ own homeland. However, some do not think that the UK and London belong to the native Britons with (with apologies and acknowledgements to those who have already posted this quite fantastical statement elsewhere on the blog today):-
Well, that’s that. England belongs to God and/or to the world, not to the English people. Of course, it would seem that South Asia belongs to the South Asian people; wasn’t South Asian self-determination the rationale for the fight against British colonialism? But, what is good for South Asian cognitive elitists is, apparently, much too good for lowly white natives – and kuffars to boot - in their own lands. And, given that a US-based blog, that shall go nameless, has in the past featured two South Asian bloggers discussing their school fights with white American students because of racial slurs, the quote “… young people who brawled with white kids over girls and perceived slights” is very sobering indeed! According to the NY Times article, some native Britons seem to have got it right:-
Unfortunately, Mr. Swaine, “they” are not going anywhere, and “your” political establishment will continue to pander to every ethnic minority, not just Moslems. Perhaps Mr. Swaine will join the BNP? But what political options exist for the American majority?
Posted by JW Holliday on Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 04:24 PM in War on Terror Comments:3
Posted by john rackell on July 14, 2005, 06:13 PM | # If I may just add a few remarks pertaining to some of the MSM quotes which don’t do justice to the true facts: Last year a white teenage boy was stabbed to death by a group of South Asian teenagers, and the hard feelings have deepened since then … Without commentary here is the incident I believe is referred to from the BNP, (or who knows, maybe it’s just one of many): “A year ago, on January 16th, [sixteen year old] Ashley [Hedger] was stabbed four times by a gang of youths who left a ceremonial knife embedded in his skull. Men from the local mosque had chased Ashley after wrongly identifying him as someone involved in an attempted street robbery. They caught up with him in the doorway of a grocer’s shop in Plashet Road, Upton Park and left him in a pool of blood with a knife, buried up to the hilt, in his head.” http://www.bnp.org.uk/freedom/05jan1.html also describes the ensuing police investigation which seems to have been a farce in regards to obtaining justice to the victim.
“The [girl] was barely 16, a white girl two months pregnant by a Muslim burglar. She was covered in bruises. They had met when he burgled her house, where she had been left alone for the night by her single mother, with whom she fought like a cat and a dog tied up in a sack over the time she should come home at night from clubs and discotheques (her mother suggesting the abominably early hour of midnight). The burglar asked her to come with him, and she did; thenceforth he locked her up, never allowed her out of the apartment, forbade all contact with others, beat her black and blue, kicked her regularly in the stomach, demanded her conversion to Islam (he himself was a drunk), and in general expected her to be his slave. When he went into the hospital for a small operation—the repair of a tendon in his arm, injured in the course of housebreaking—she had an opportunity to escape. I offered her every facility to do so, from a safe house to the services of a lawyer paid for by the public purse. “I can’t leave him,” she said. “I love him, and he said he’d kill himself if I leave him.”
I WANNA PUKE! 4
Posted by Geoff Beck on July 14, 2005, 06:54 PM | # > I wanna puke. There is something else I’d like to do. 5
Posted by Braveheart on July 15, 2005, 02:48 AM | # To compare with Belgium: in the Brussels’ Molenbeek and Schaarbeek neighbourhoods (were the Belgian suicide fighters who depart for Iraq come from) Moroccans who behave too modern to the taste of the others, are called in contempt “Flemings”. The Flemings are in their perception the “worst” Westerners one can imagine. Flanders, 6
Posted by Stuka on July 15, 2005, 09:05 AM | # Unfortunately, Mr. Swaine, “they” are not going anywhere… Oh, really?! Mr. Swaine may very well get his wish in the end. We must retain hope. In any event, gentlemen, knives shall be sharpened. 7
Posted by JW Holliday on July 15, 2005, 10:58 AM | # A quote from the last link about the Gitmo detainee, here referring to another NEC: “Another Briton who was jailed at Guantanamo Bay — Feroz Abbasi who grew up in the Croydon, south of London — wrote in his melancholy memoirs penned in prison that he battled shyness, loneliness and suicide attempts before discovering Islam on a backpacking trip through Europe.” Thus, the problems started BEFORE the religious discovery. The religious factor is an effect, NOT a cause. The cause is alienation, and the alienation results from race. It’s race, and ultimately all about race. South Asians in western societies are a serious problem - it has little, ultimately, to do with religion. If the imported textile workers had been Hindus from India instead of Pakistani Muslims, they would also have clashed with the native working class population. Instead, the Indians were more educated, upper-class professionals, targeted to more diverse, cosmopolitan cities - dealing more with effete ‘metrosexual’ whites than with working class “blokes.” In the end though, the “comity” of NECs that Stoddard refers to will come out ... too bad European-derived peoples seem to have lost the white comity that Stoddard also refers to in his book. We need to get it back Next entry: The Emotions of Racial Disgust, Fear, and Hatred. Previous entry: The Obscured Meaning of the Karl Rove Soap Opera |
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Posted by sr on July 14, 2005, 04:48 PM | #
The BNP seems to this American to be acquitting itself nicely this week. I grow more impressed. What would a US party that was analogous to the BNP be like? What would its platform be? I would be tempted to say the least by such a party.