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What do I admire about Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Oman?What do I admire about Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Oman? In order to enter and to work in any of these countries the governments have set up stringent systems to prevent the inundation of their countries by immigrants or expatriate workers who would not contribute to the economic prosperity of the countries or who would threaten the safety of their citizens. Posted by Robert Reis on Friday, December 19, 2008 at 02:06 AM in Immigration Comments:2
Posted by Dasein on December 19, 2008, 09:35 AM | # And undergirding all of this is the self-confidence (or what would offend non-Arabs as chauvinism) of the peoples of these countries. Whites must recover their swagger. 3
Posted by Dasein on December 19, 2008, 09:55 AM | # Diamed, I don’t think Islam is a religion for Europeans. But for other races it is perhaps ideal. Consider the differences between north and south Nigeria. 4
Posted by Rechill on December 19, 2008, 10:07 AM | # Aren’t the lands and the resources in it under the control of those who live on it? The only way to take complete control of the oil would be to invade and drive the people from the land. This is pretty basic to human nature and history. There’s no way to go in with whatever tools we in the West invented and take from their resources without compensation and NOT have the population become insurgents. Hello? Iraq and Afghanistan come to mind. You just can’t go half way in the Middle East. I’m not up for another crusade can we pay our royalties like civilized white folks? “The fact that they fund terrorism abroad, are attempting to quash free speech worldwide, and keep their own people ignorant and enslaved to a false religion…” Glass houses, my friend. Glass houses. 5
Posted by Rechill on December 19, 2008, 10:28 AM | # “I don’t think Islam is a religion for Europeans. “ I thought the same thing while visiting Morocco. I have a theory that each racial sub-grouping develops the religious rituals and beliefs it needs in order to survive and even to adapt to the environment. There’s a lot of ritual washing in Islam. That helps in the desert heat. They keep their women covered up because they are an excitable bunch of hombres. It works for them to keep things orderly. Europeans generally show more restraint so comingling of the sexes isn’t a big problem. 6
Posted by anti-shahada on December 19, 2008, 01:17 PM | # What’s to admire? I have good Muslim friends who have lived in Dubai and have performed hajj, who tell me that the ruling classes in UAE and Saudi are rife with alcoholism, homosexualism, and drug use. The stories they have told me are quite alarming. 7
Posted by Sacharite on December 19, 2008, 04:14 PM | # Yes, these days we look jealously to societies constructed by debauched, ugly, 84 IQ sand-nigs… for the single reason they retain a morsel of (alleged) sovereignty. (Reis, have you visually scanned their “women”??? A hard choice between them and the camel in the backyard every night, itz.) 8
Posted by Orion14 on December 19, 2008, 11:20 PM | # Glass Houses And The 2 Minute Jew Hate
Have you looked at the ruling class in the West lately? Not only do they practice homosexuality but openly promote it.
Sounds like another place I know, except they don’t treat them like “shit”, but instead feed them, educate them (to the extent they are educable) and give them voting rights. So whose way is worse?
Just curious…is is more stupid to let jews steal your financial system or to buy it up like the “84 IQ sand-nigs” are doing? I’m amazed at the blight wing jewthink in this thread. No wonder we are losing everything. There are a lot of things wrong with the countries mentioned, mostly due to the fact that they are collaborators with the Great Satan, but they can’t even hold a candle to what ills the West. 9
Posted by silver on December 19, 2008, 11:42 PM | #
How impressive… Nevertheless, the population of the UAE somehow managed to become composed of almost 75% foreigners. Okay, they don’t have the same rights as citizens, but that’s not my idea of a government “for the people.” Laughably, the country has a male:female ratio of 2.7! More great “management.” (And bitterly ironic for a society which tells a man he may have up to four wives.)
And that they hate Jews. That’s what happens when you develop Jews-on-the-brain syndrome: you’ll talk up anything that hates them. Never underestimate this factor. 10
Posted by Tusky on December 20, 2008, 09:53 AM | # If they really have the best interests of their population in mind they will buy into the DNA sequencing business and begin subsidizing high-grade children. First effects seen in five or six years, an amazing difference in the place twenty years on. Tusky 11
Posted by Catuveluni on December 20, 2008, 09:58 AM | #
Its always interested me that protestantism was able to spread in the nordic countries but not elsewhere. Perhaps also the fact that Iranians are mostly persian is why so many of them follow a seperate strain of Islam. I’m sure there are many more examples. Race is a truly fascinating subject. If todays elite werent such cowards and had the balls to openly discuss it the world would be a much better place. 12
Posted by Fred Scrooby on December 20, 2008, 10:18 AM | # Nice to see you’re catching on, Catuveluni. 13
Posted by torgrim on December 20, 2008, 11:21 AM | # “It’s always interested me that protestantism was able to spread in the nordic countries best not elsewhere.”—Catuveluni Protestanism fits geographically with the Elder Way of northern Europe, ie., the pre-Christian folkway of the Nordic people. Coincidence? Hardly. 14
Posted by anti-shahada on December 20, 2008, 01:18 PM | # @Orion14 What’s to admire? I have good Muslim friends who have lived in Dubai and have performed hajj, who tell me that the ruling classes in UAE and Saudi are rife with alcoholism, homosexualism, and drug use. The stories they have told me are quite alarming. Have you looked at the ruling class in the West lately? Not only do they practice homosexuality but openly promote it. Of course I’ve looked at the West. Hell, I live in it. I’m immersed in this filthy cesspool. Difference is, I don’t write silly articles telling readers why I admire it. I want the ruling class of the West liquidated, not put on a pedestal. I’m sure good Arabs in the Middle Easy feel the same about their masters. 15
Posted by Al Spanker on December 20, 2008, 01:35 PM | # Islam is a religion that has more testosterone than Christianity. Hezbullah is a remarkable organization. While I find Arabs to be ethnocentric overall I have to tell you that they are not deficient in the IQ category. Arabs can be white or mixed. The propaganda put out about Muhammad and the religion itself is on such a level that I can barely credit it that people on MR could fall for such. David Duke gets it right on Islam. You have to calm the surface of the lake to see the bottom.
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Posted by Captainchaos on December 20, 2008, 01:57 PM | # Al Spanker: “While I find Arabs to be ethnocentric overall I have to tell you that they are not deficient in the IQ category.” Bullshit! That isn’t what the IQ tests say. That isn’t what their pathetic level of civilizational development says either. Arabs are non-European Caucasians, er, greasy wogs. Wogs out! I’ll give them one thing though: what they lack in genetic potential they make up for with enthusiasm. LOL! 17
Posted by John on December 20, 2008, 03:22 PM | # Islam, like the two other major Middle Eastern goatherders’ religions but more extremely, is authoritarian and thus not suited to the Nordic soul, imo. Allah doesn’t speak old Norse and demands worship and supplication, (as does Yahweh/“the Father”) enfeebling individuals and modeling the “proper” stance toward earthly “authorities”. 18
Posted by Gudmund on December 20, 2008, 03:31 PM | #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IQ_by_Country.png Muslim countries are not the highest or lowest in terms of IQ, as you can see. As for their civilization, it hasn’t exactly benefited from a half-century of Judaeo-tyranny in the region. We seem to forget that the Middle East has had periods of cultural renaissance. I don’t really feel affection or dislike for Muslims in general, I just don’t want them in our countries. 19
Posted by Diamed on December 20, 2008, 05:50 PM | # My claims are not based on propaganda. They are straight from the source. Read the religious texts of Islam and you will find everything there brazenly bragged about without a single hint of morality ever entering the man’s head. He married and raped a girl whose father and brother he killed in front of her that same day. He married a 6 year old girl and had sex with her at age 9. This is all detailed in his own hadith, hardly made up propaganda to discredit him. As for their IQ, it is indisputable, the science is in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:National_IQ_Lynn_Vanhanen_2006_IQ_and_Global_Inequality.png See that yellow band? 80-85 IQ. As stupid as blacks in America. 20
Posted by Captainchaos on December 20, 2008, 06:46 PM | # I don’t begrudge Arabs their homelands. I don’t begrudge them their regressive theocracy, it that is want they want. White Nationalists would keep any meddling in their internal affairs to a minimum. The only meddling in foreign affairs I would be inclined to engage in is to thwart clear and present dangers to the White race, and for environmental protection. Arabs will exist at the level they are capable of providing for themselves. I see nothing immoral on the part of Whites in letting that be the case. 21
Posted by RW on December 20, 2008, 07:43 PM | # You clearly haven’t noticed how many of the doctors, nurses, and engineers in these places are immigrants from India. True, they may have fewer rights than they would in Europe or North America, but they generally make handsome salaries, and are left alone to live their lives as they please unless they actively encroach on the native culture. Many, especially those in medicine, get top-of-the-ladder posts which I’ve no doubt leave the Arabs resentful. When it comes down to it, the Saudis are driven by greed and profit as much as anyone else; the only difference is they don’t make any pretense about creating a big melting pot. 22
Posted by Gudmund on December 20, 2008, 08:09 PM | #
In terms of evolutionary strategy: Avg IQ 80-85 + ethnocentrism > Avg IQ 100 + no ethnocentrism. Groups of dumber folks can outperform less cohesive individuals even when the latter are smarter. We’re behind the 8-ball because of this. 23
Posted by silver on December 20, 2008, 10:14 PM | #
That sounds dubious. I think there is a simpler explanation: the racial/ethnic factor. How many average people would have had severe doubts about Christianity in toto? There must have been plenty. (You don’t need the Enlightenment to doubt religion. I doubted Genesis the moment I was given a children’s Bible and knew nothing about science/rationalism.) So when Luther came along attacking the established order, it’s not unreasonable to think a substantial portion of his co-ethnics would have sided with him just for being one of their own, regardless of the specifics of his views, this factor becoming more prominent the more protestantism spread among Germanics (and the more it was resisted and countered by “latins”). It would seem to hold true even among German-speakers themselves: aren’t Bavarians, who are typically less nordish, by and large Catholics, like their Austrian cousins? Weren’t the Huguenots some of the more, let’s say, “frankish” of the French?
The propaganda put about Muhammad and Islam by Duke & Co is on such a level it amazes me any how many half intelligent WNs swallow it hook, line and sinker. The easiest way around proganda is to simply gather the facts yourself. Muslims are a pack of intolerant, fatalistic morons with whom it is insanity on stilts to attempt to ally yourself with.
Geez, that’s one hell of a “region” there buddy. Is Israel really exercising tyranny all the way to Morocco and Pakistan? Or is this just more jews-on-the-brain egestion? Oh, and from ‘67 until the first intifada (‘87), the Pals benefited a hell of a lot more than they did in the same time frame under their fellow Arabs from ‘48 to ‘67.
Which probably coincided with periods of religious laxity. I’m not sure how closely you’ve been tracking trends there for the last few decades, but they’re in anything but such a period today. 24
Posted by Desmond Jones on December 20, 2008, 11:37 PM | # Protestantism, according to E. Michael Jones, was the outcome of Catholics acting badly. And many of those bad actors were conversos.
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Posted by Gudmund on December 21, 2008, 09:03 AM | #
Nice try. I was speaking specifically about the Middle East, as the topic was “Middle Easterners.” You didn’t catch that part? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Middle_east_graphic_2003.jpg See? Morocco and Pakistan not included. Yankee-Judaea’s long arm holds sway over much of the shown region. I suppose you’ll tell me that most of the countries in said region haven’t been influenced by Israel’s presence in the least? You really are a piece of work, silver. PS What is “egestion”? Is that Yiddish? 26
Posted by Gudmund on December 21, 2008, 09:10 AM | #
Your condescension notwithstanding, the Middle East’s Golden Age was during the Abbasid Caliphate. It was not exactly a period of “religious laxity.” 27
Posted by Gudmund on December 21, 2008, 09:45 AM | # BTW, my motives aren’t philo-Islamic in the least. I’d rather have Muslims live in their own countries unmolested than allow Yankee-Judaea to continually disrupt their countries - causing millions of them to flood into our countries. Just pragmatism, see? 28
Posted by silver on December 21, 2008, 10:57 AM | #
No, you were speaking about “Muslim countries”: “Muslim countries are not the highest or lowest in terms of IQ, as you can see. As for their civilization, it hasn’t exactly benefited from a half-century of Judaeo-tyranny in the region.”
No, as a matter of fact, I don’t see. Muslims in your (well, my, too) countries are already convinced of their own goodness. Saying nice things about them won’t get them to leave. It only makes the suckers in our countries who believe those nice things less likely to grow fed up with Muslims and the racial groups they typically represent.
English, actually. Try a dictionary. 29
Posted by Gudmund on December 21, 2008, 11:53 AM | #
Yes, centered in the Middle-East, the origin of said religion. I meant the core region of Islam, i.e. the Middle East. Apologies for the lack of clarity.
We have mentioned repatriation before. You are attributing a position to me that is not my own, namely that I expect that kind words alone will make them leave.
Gee, I’d have thought that sarcasm wouldn’t be lost on a curmudgeon like yourself. But I suppose it doesn’t translate well online. 30
Posted by silver on December 21, 2008, 12:27 PM | #
Apology accepted. I think Israel has very little to do with it, apart from the Palestinians’ case, and the recent Afghan and Iraqi adventures. Israel’s just an incredibly convenient scapegoat. Personally, I’m supportive of truth wherever it aspires to breath. In Muslim countries, that requires attacking Islam. But it’s a job I’d be quite content to leave to those people themselves.
You called it “pragmatic”. I’m just following your own line of logic and challenging whether it really is pragmatic. Again: far from kind words ‘alone’ being enough to make them leave, why would they even help at all, or be expected to do anything but fool our own people into thinking there’s something praiseworthy about Muslims, which, one assumes, would only hamper repatriation efforts?
Curmudgeon? 31
Posted by Gudmund on December 21, 2008, 12:28 PM | # Silver, So we’ve already established that the Middle East is under YJ’s thumb. But let’s not stop there. Pakistan, is it? So Pervez Musharraf wasn’t a pawn of Zion? Or how about Benazir Bhutto? Iran is next on the list of targets, as we know. Syria is isolated as a de facto ally of Iran. Morocco has gone along with America’s anti-terror plan, at least outwardly. So has Algeria. Saudis and other sheikhs are reflexive pawns of YJ. Turkey is Israel’s second-closest ally. & on & on And you have the temerity to tell me that the long arm of Zion doesn’t impact all of the ME? Get real! 32
Posted by Gudmund on December 21, 2008, 12:32 PM | #
OK. But if we have an elite that sees repatriation as a priority, the plebeians’ opinions needn’t matter. This is all hyptohetical at this point, as we are not in a poisition to do ANYTHING about it now.
Well, you have engaged in wars with others at this site, silver. You’re not exactly diplomatic, now are you? 33
Posted by Robert Reis on December 22, 2008, 12:15 AM | # Addendum: Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Oman are not identical. Many Saudis and Omanis are required to work at ordinary and sweat-producing jobs. Both countries are training their citizens to become skilled workers in the oil industries. In Oman all of the taxi drivers are Omanis; many taxi drivers in Saudi Arabia are Saudis. Oman and the United Arab Emirates permit women to drive cars and to hold jobs in which they interact with men. In Saudi Arabia female doctors can treat male patients but not talk with them outside of the examination and treatment rooms. Women have access to higher education in all three countries. In Oman men and women attend the same classes. They segregate themselves in the classrooms. The United Arab Emirates and Oman practice religious toleration. Christian churches and Hindu temples advertize in the newspapers. Catholic nuns can wear their habits in the shopping malls. In all of these countries, an old obviously Western male who stands by the side of the road where taxis are infrequent will be offered a ride by a Muslim. The number of Western men I know who converted to Islam in order to marry Muslim Arab ladies indicates that the remarks of Sacharite [See his comment of December 19th.] are those of an ignorant and foul-minded person.. 34
Posted by silver on December 22, 2008, 12:56 AM | #
I question the amount of impact. Otherwise, anything can be said to have some “impact,” no matter how trivial. But we were talking about their civilization. You were keen to apologize for what you see as its failings and invoked Israel. But their civilization has been ailing for far longer than Israel has been on the scene. And Israel’s only been able to exercise today’s level of influence (hardly “tyranny”) since the end of the Cold War; prior to that “Israel” was very much the scapegoat for those countries’ developmental shortcomings.
In a democracy, of course their opinion matters. Would any democratically elected leaders dare even suggest it without substantial popular support? It’s difficult to think so. So telling the masses what wonderful people Muslims are would only act as an obstacle to decisive action by political leaders.
Yes, but that doesn’t make me a curmudgeon. I like to think it’s the curmudgeons I’ve “warred” on. (Do you think I get a fair shake around here? There’s absolutely nothing in anything I say that would prevent the realization of every WN/racialist or even NS dream— save for extermination (which only a handful of even that “illustrious” lot hanker for)—so it really makes a guy wonder. Honestly, it’s bizarre.) 35
Posted by Gudmund on December 22, 2008, 09:23 AM | #
About 1000 years after the Prophet’s death, Islam’s fire had mostly gone out, and the secular authority with it. Is it not the case that Western intervention (in part) helped to fan those flames back to a blaze? Yes, the civilization has been ailing for centuries. If we had left it that way, perhaps it would have stayed a tidy backwater. Instead, the last 100+ years turned it into a whirlwind again. US and Israel must be held accountable for making the region consequential again - and not in a good way.
Sure, but is democracy where we would ideally go? Perhaps a slightly more authoritarian government would be in order at least until Western lands are returned somewhat to normalcy? Not NS or Fascist per se, something more akin to wartime government (because we are in a war here). Muslims would be made unwelcome in such an event.
Fair enough. So from your perspective, you merely critique the posts here and that is enough to attract hostility? I don’t recall seeing anti-WN/NS sentiment from you, so what is the source of the discord? 36
Posted by Cyclone_bee on December 22, 2008, 04:01 PM | # I’m White and British but I grew up in the Middle East when I was a kid and what you say is spot on. I remember my father telling me when I was younger how the Arabs had got it right. They invite qualified foreigners over to their countries, they pay them well and they allow them to prosper, but they make it extremely clear that we have to abide by their laws and customs and if we don’t they will abruptly deport us (or jail us if it’s a serious offence). They don’t naturalise other nationalities and give them passports or citizenship under any circumstances (except certain Arabic speaking countries outside the GCC) therefore preserving their race and their heritage. I don’t think it’s a coincidence either that Jews have not been allowed to settle in those countries in any great numbers (some get in with US or European passports but it’s advisable but openly professing their religion is not advisable) nor have they been able to muscle their way into their political systems or press. Israelis are banned completely. The western satelite channels and internet is censored from pornographic scenes or anything deemed inappopriate or damaging to their religious sensitivities. Unfortunately in recent years Americanism/Westernism has started to decay their societies somewhat since the US muscled their way into that region just after the Gulf War and it is having a negative influence on the younger generation. However their culture is still relatively safe from outside influence and if they chose to, they could send everybody home tomorrow. The west on the other hand is on the verge of hitting the point of no return. 5 decades of mass immigration, cultural marxism and media propaganda has removed any cultural or racial pride from the youth in the west. They deliberately avoid teaching kids any valuable history of their culture and I’ve even noticed television shows in the UK such as “Merlin” include ethnic actors in the cast (as if the UK had negros and asians in their society in the 10th century!). The British Empire is touched on in the briefest possible fashion and even then it’s referred to in a negative light. More “white guilt” please! P.S.: You should have included Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait in the title of this article but it was great to see somebody else pick up on this. 37
Posted by silver on December 22, 2008, 11:26 PM | #
This isn’t much different from blaming their problems on our very existence. Firstly, it was never a “tidy backwater.” Their own belligerence was at least equally responsible for our close contact. Surely we can’t be blamed for beating them off. If that threw them into a turmoil they’re yet to recover from, so be it. (Of course, the reasons for their, say, “difficulties” are largely other than that.) Secondly, that belligerence, whatever else it was, was also religiously inspired. They take a certain level of animosity towards everything non-Muslim for granted. Why reward that attitude?
Those questions greatly broaden the discussion. I was only responding to your claim that the opinion of the masses doesn’t matter. (However much it matters, it matters enough, for now, to be an obstacle to decisive action, was my point.)
Ah, you missed it then. I made a bit of splash as an anti when I first came upon this site. Rather than take my “conversion” as the positive, hopeful development that it is, the irascible lovelies here prefer to heap scorn on anything I say. Crazy, huh? Obviously their greatest obstacle is that not enough whites (or people in general) are racialists, so you’d think they’d be pleased with an anti/non-racialist/anti-white (the last in particular) being convinced of the truth and/or morality (both are important) of racialism. Apparently, however, they seem to believe it’s still 1960 or something (some of them, you get the impression, that it’s still 1860).
But that doesn’t preserve their (or anyone’s) race and heritage, for its the very presence of foreign stock (in large numbers, anyway) in your territory that, over time, extinguishes you, not that stock’s legal status. 38
Posted by Gudmund on December 22, 2008, 11:57 PM | #
You’re Serbian, right? I suppose the “Islamic question” has had more effect on your people than on mine. What with Kosovo, I imagine it is still raw to consider. Maybe my easier stance re: Muslims comes from a desire to be contrarian towards my government, since it always paints Israel as the Knights in White and Muslims as demons. Where I live, there are a lot of Somalis. When I think about it, they do bring a rather savage and criminal element with them. A friend of mine was nearly accosted by a couple of them one night when he was on the town with a female friend. They are very disparaging and chauvinistic toward non-Muslims. What does it matter, you ask? Well, maybe I’ll be a bit less forgiving towards them as you’ve suggested. 39
Posted by Gudmund on December 23, 2008, 12:11 AM | #
Probably fellows like Scrooby and CC doubt the sincerity of your change. But ultimately if your change is sincere as you say, what difference does that make? We’re all in the same boat here: white, in a world that is less so everyday. 40
Posted by silver on December 23, 2008, 01:13 AM | #
Half. And half Greek. A strong anti-islamic tradition on both counts. But Kosovo is meaningless to me. I’m not a nationalist at all. Rationalist/“civilizationist”/eugenicist/racialist, yes (and I don’t consider any of it “hateful”); nationalism, nope. Kosovo should have been (still can be and should be) used to make the point of what a superior arrangement homogeneity is.
It too complex to reduce to “goodies” and “baddies.” Obviously Iraelis aren’t saints, but I’ve known plenty of Arabs in my life, and when I consider that these are the kinds of people who Israelis have to attempt to make peace with, I can’t help but sympathise with Israel.
It depends on what you mean by “less forgiving.” I think it’s a waste of time directing your angst against any particular individuals. Groups like Somalis are simply pefect for making the point about “diversity run amock,” and the need to reverse its effects. (Somalis, from this perspective are a boon: racially negroid, ethnically alien and religiously muslim—a three-fer.)
I doubt it. It’s something other than that. In today’s world it takes a special kind of person to not only see through the fog of BS but to demand and settle for nothing less than the dismantlement of the current order. Sadly, this kind of person does not appear to be the most congenial, understanding type, and certainly not the most forgiving (myself excepted
Because isn’t that the whole point? Isn’t it the whole point to turn people who today are not racialists (and who oppose you) into racialists (who, if they don’t support, at least do not opppose you)? And, the demographic situation being what it is, isn’t it better to win allies from any and all quarters than not to? (Of course, nobody here convinced me of anything. Quite the opposite: they turned me right off the kinds of things I was already thinking about. I had to make my own way back to it, deciding that the ranters and ravers didn’t have any exclusive claim to ownership of racialist discourse.) 41
Posted by Gudmund on December 23, 2008, 01:28 AM | #
My friend’s father was a commercial pilot in Riyadh for a few years. He didn’t have much good to say about Arabs either. But both sides of that ME coin have a hand in our present difficulties - tilted toward Israel, imho.
Quite. But who is behind the quixotic projects that bring them here?
I don’t follow. Are you saying you have grudging respect for them? 42
Posted by silver on December 23, 2008, 02:40 AM | #
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Posted by Diamed on December 19, 2008, 04:49 AM | #
It’s easy to do better than the USA. However, you seem to be ignoring the fact that these muslims have around 80 IQ and all basically live on state largess due to happening to sit on top of oil and natural gas that they aren’t even smart enough to dig up themselves. Basically they are just rent-seekers getting in the way of white industry which both has a use for the oil, and the ability to retrieve it. A nation of parasites.
The fact that they have vast hordes of servants to do their menial labor whom they generally treat like shit isn’t to their credit either. It would be better if they simply paid their own citizens well in even the least prestigious jobs and let their land consist only of their people. They aren’t nationalist in any sense of the word. The servants are the only people who even work in the country, like I said before, everyone else just collects their oil check, rent-seeking style, through no effort or productivity of their own.
The fact that they fund terrorism abroad, are attempting to quash free speech worldwide, and keep their own people ignorant and enslaved to a false religion which executes anyone who tries to leave it also seems to have skipped your mind. Though I guess that isn’t the topic at hand, it’s dumb to ignore even for a second.
Last but not least all those nations worship a lying rapist murdering slave-catching thieving pedophile. As far as I am concerned they worship Satan, and they do it knowingly. There is no way to read the sunnah or the sirah and not realize the force Muhammed represents is Satan.