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Wilders’ Fitna is released - UPDATE 28.03.08
BUT IT’S STILL ON YOUTUBE Yesterday’s original post ... Geert Wilders’ has now found a host on-line for his much trailed and relentlessly tragic film, Fitna the Movie. It is in Dutch, but scarcely needs translation. It is too uncomplicated for that. [Actually here is the English-language version, with my thanks to Hibernia Girl - Ed] Let it be said that Wilders’ message of Islam’s alien-ness and its implacable opposition to Western liberal democratic values is unmoderated by any political context. OK, one wouldn’t expect too much of a critique of those values in a short film like this. But the responsibility for transferring Moslem populations into Europe - and apparently they now stand at 57 million - goes totally unaddressed. The viewer is left to assume that it’s simply a product of Islam’s expansionist ambitions. Likewise, no attempt is made to investigate the nature of Moslem anger towards the West. The vast offence that Moslems feel at America’s machinations in the dar al-Islam and the humiliation occasioned by Israeli aggression are not touched upon. All the blood-letting is portrayed as a product of the “problematic” surahs. We all know Wilders has a penchant for populist anti-immigration politics. But Wikipedia helpfully explains that he also has a very special feeling, not to put too fine a point on it, for Israel:-
So perhaps Wilders is not all that interested in telling his own people that, fundamentally, Moslems are in Holland for the same reason that 1,350 Dutch soldiers are in Iraq. Perhaps his pro-Israel sensibilities baulk at the very notion of a mutual separation - them from us and us from them. After all, no employee in the Israeli Embassy would want to see a Dutch Holland or a West careless of its “duty” to the Jewish state. View Fitna, with all its shock value, as an agitprop vehicle for an ambitious and energetic politician. A serious contribution it aint. Comments:3
Posted by Fr. John on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:06 | # While one who is a Christian cannot condone the adultery and sodomy lawfully allowed and encouraged in Holland and many other countries and cities of the West, this film (with it’s terribly evocative Western/Nordic Music) clearly shows that this is a race war. It is the sort of thing that should be shown in every Church and school, public as well, to learn what Islam truly is. I felt no anger over the Muslim hatred for the Jews in this film, however. They [Talmudics] are no more the followers of ‘the Book,’ than the Muslims are. Moreover, Christ’s sacrifice on the Cross applies to neither group, as the Fathers and the Saints clearly stated. Both groups are idolaters and are still in their sins. And for that, and that alone (not for some specious appeal to liberalism or democracy, both of which have their roots in humanism, rather than the ‘West’) all Muslims should be deported from Western soil. May God have mercy on Christendom. For she has sown the wind, and is reaping the whirlwind. P.S. Anyone sent this to Rowan Williams, yet? 4
Posted by uhh on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:01 | # Talmudix. Sounds like a techno outfit. I thought it was Taldmudic Zionist Marxist crypto-Marano Khazarian Jews? 5
Posted by onlooker on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:40 | # There are 57 MILLION Muslims residing in Europe!?! Native Europeans are not reproducing at the replacement level required to maintain their own population. Muslim’s in Europe are exceeding their replacement level. The EU’s immigration policies are such that they’re still allowing Muslims to immigrate into Europe. What more needs to be said? Maybe white folks will take notice and heed the warning of a Black Muslim women? White-leftists are too busy hating their own race to pay attention to white-preservationists. I hear no protest targeted at the Muslims’ treatment of women from the NOW gang. The white male-hating feminist-hypocrites sure have a rude awakening in their future. http://www.amazon.com/Infidel-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali/dp/0743289684 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXGZBs65qMs 6
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:46 | # Or, indeed, his Holyness, Fr. John, since Holland is a Catholic country in much more dire demographic danger from Moslem populations than Britain. 7
Posted by captainchaos on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:22 | # I wonder if the Dutch will ever have the balls to toss all these subhuman muds out of their country? Being half Dutch it pains my heart to see the country of my matrilineal ancestors defiled by this third-world rabble. 8
Posted by 123 on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:51 | # “There are 57 MILLION Muslims residing in Europe!?!” The USA is pressing Europe to include Turkey, which is experiencing a population explosion, into the EU. The EU is also propagating it. Negotiations between the EU and Turkey are in progress. Once this will happen in a few years time, all turkish will have the right to reside everywhere in Europe, as they are supposedly “Europeans”. They will then have access to all social secutrity in the country of residence. Therefore they will then flock to Europe by the millions and thereby add to the high birthrate of the muslims already here. And that will then be the end of Europe as we know it. 9
Posted by Peter on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:29 | # Guessedworker and Hibernia Girl many thanks from me for posting this video. Onlooker thank you for posting those links. I am glad at least some whites are realizing what Muslims are like. What do you guys think about letting Non Muslims enter Europe? Such as Christians from these Muslim countries who are oppressed regularly? That video really touched me deeply (not in a good way). I am disgusted by it. My God… 10
Posted by koko booboo on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:31 | # I STUMBLED ON THIS SITE SOMEWHAT ACCIDENTLY AND BOY DID I LEARN MY LESSON! WHAT A BUNCH OF CLOSE-MINDED RUBBISH! YOU PEOPLE ARE SERIOUSLY CONFLICTED. WHO DO YOU HATE MORE, THE MUSLIMS OR THE JEWS?? I’M GUESSING PEOPLE LIKE YOU JUST HATE EVERYBODY. WHAT A SICK AND TWISTED WAY TO LIVE LIFE. FACE IT, THINGS ARE CHANGING, JUST LIKE THEY HAVE ALWAYS CHANGED. PEOPLE MOVE, PEOPLE MIX, POPULATIONS DIVERSIFY. BLAH BLAH BLAH. GROW THE HELL UP PEOPLE. IN THIS MASSIVE AND MAJESTIC UNIVERSE OF OURS, WE ARE ALL SO VERY INSIGNIFICANT. GET OVER YOURSELVES. 11
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:03 | # Looks like Koko the Talking Gorilla reads the site. 12
Posted by Englander on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:51 | # It amuses me how consistently moronic the oppositional commenters are. 13
Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:16 | # The koko booboo entity may well be a Nigger but the whiff of White Liberal is strong so I recommend an excellent dissection, by Luke O’Farrell, of that motley crew’s attitudes to race : 14
Posted by onlooker on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:03 | # “Certainly brings to mind those old European conquerors that invaded, subdued, and corrupted native populations.”—koko booboo Corrupted? Subdued? Do you mean how whites’ stopped “people of color” from Africa to the Americas to the South Pacific Islands, the Orient, and elsewhere ... from engaging in canabalism, human sacrifice, amongst other unspeakable practises? Is that what you mean by corrupted and subdued? 15
Posted by Laurel Loflund on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:43 | # The deep divisions between white folks based on religion, or lack of it, put all white people at risk. God bless, 16
Posted by onlooker on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:20 | # “The deep divisions between white folks based on religion, or lack of it, put all white people at risk.”—Laurel Loflund True enough, but trying to get the good folks at MR to agree upon a common religion is like herding cats. Or more accurately, it’s like trying to herd kitlers… http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2006/kitler-p1.php Just kidding! Just kidding! 17
Posted by Laurel Loflund on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:32 | # The looks of that cat are a hoot! BTW, I should have been more specific in my comment, as I was referring to Christian faith and the many varieties of secularism. I still believe those divisions, and unwillingness to cooperate across them, whether or not we will ever agree on faith issues, put all white folks at risk. Folks can believe what they want to believe, or not believe what they don’t want to believe. I am a Christian, but am willing to work for the common good of all white people. I sure hope others are, despite differences in faith, or I might as well go burkha shopping now, because that other faith is monolithic and determined to subsume all of us into itself. Or kill us. I take offense at the latter. God bless, 18
Posted by torgrim on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:50 | # “but the whiff of White Liberal is strong”; Al Ross I think you have ferreted our Koko boo boo, thanks for the link, Al. 19
Posted by torgrim on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:05 | # Laurel Loflund; I see from your statement that we share the same thought. The survival of our people must be our primal duty! 21
Posted by DavidL on Sat, 29 Mar 2008 22:41 | # Dear Mr./Ms. BooBoo The good folks ( Anglo-Saxons,Teutonics, Celts, etc in origin ) here at MR As has been stated before on this site, the Jews( pseudo-semites) and the Oh just a small aside, when “whitey” is gone please take the time to bend Have a lovely future. 22
Posted by Desmond Jones on Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:33 | #
Corrupted?! The savage unnatural darkness practiced by people of colour everywhere the European ventured was corrupted?! The introduction of rule of law, science, medicine and technology that advanced the carrying capacity of these tribes/nations beyond their wildest dreams is corruption?! The diminishment of the squalor, privation, famine and disease found amongst the majority of these worlds by Europeans was corrupted?! Look only to Rhodesia and South Africa to see the malaise, the famine curtain that has fallen on these nations where once the corrupting European ruled. Look at the demographic realities. The population of India, China and Africa has at least trebled since the beginning of the 20th century. It was European law, medicine, technology and philosophy, the f…king ‘white man’s burden’, that was responsible for the magnitude of this largesse and this is the thanks the European gets. What a pile of crap. 23
Posted by Lurker on Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:40 | # bonbon or whatever said - “Certainly brings to mind those old European conquerors that invaded, subdued, and corrupted native populations. I guess whites are finally getting back what they put out… KARMA is certainly a bitch isn’t it! LOL.” That kind of implies the whole clash of civilizations idea. That some win and some lose, that there is no overarching international morality or rules that have to be adhered to. Therefore if non-whites are allowed to destroy whites for whatever they perceive as past wrongs, we can come up with a similar list of grievances. So we are therefore allowed to destroy you and I wont be expecting to hear any complaint from the likes of you, just a resigned acceptance of karma. So whats it to be karma - which cuts both ways, we can do to you what you do to us and no bleating. Or strict international/inter-ethnic rules against race replacement which means you on a one way trip back home. Your choice. 24
Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:57 | # With the benefit of perfect hindsight we can appreciate the fact that the yeoman-like efforts of our Imperial forebears in the Christian moral imperative of extending the bounds of Civilization to the pointless anthropoid refuse of what is now the Third World were utterly wasted and served only to increase the numbers of the dusky savages beyond their lands’ carrying capacity. 25
Posted by J Richards on Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:52 | # Van_Heutsz, Wilders is a clown, and this is the Zionists promoting their anti-Muslim propaganda in their usual manner: make it look like goyim are behind it. Fred Scrooby said that ‘Those connections will come in handy for keeping the Moslems from doing a Theo van Gogh on him after they get a look at this film.’ This comment made me think about something that has come to my attention but most of the material is in Dutch and I cannot make much progress without help from a native Dutch speaker. Here is how it goes. It starts with Pim Fortuyn’s murder. Fortuyn was allegedly murdered by a poor leftist, Volkert van der Graaf, who was concerned about Muslims’ fate if Fortuyn was elected. But how did he manage to have an expensive Jewish firm – Böhler, Koppe and Franken – defend him? Fortuyn’s assassination appeared to be a professional one. Theo van Gogh had also come up with a lot of anti-Muslim materials. Eventually, Theo figured out that both Fortuyn and he had been used by Israel to promote anti-Muslim sentiment and that Pim was killed by the Israelis. Theo decided to make a movie, titled ‘May 6th’, where he would argue that Israel orchestrated Pim’s assassination. You can get the trailer here: http://www.0605defilm.nl/movs/0605_trailer_med.wmv He was heading to his studio to work on this film, and was murdered. This has the stench of Zionists all over it. If you can find more information on this and perhaps translate it to English, it will be a great help because contrary to Fred Scooby, who seems to have learned little about the modus operandi of the Zios over all the time he has been reading majorityrights, they will use a goy to promote anti-Muslim sentiment, promote him, then kill him, and make it look like the work of Muslims. Way to go when it comes to making people hate Muslims! And don’t get me wrong. I don’t sympathize with Muslims. There is consensus here that Muslims are bad news for the West. So please look into whether you can dig up something interesting. 26
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:33 | # JR, the spirit in which I wrote that was meant to be sort of slightly ironic-humorous, in the sense, “I don’t believe he has tight connections with the Mossad but if he does so much the better for him, maybe he’ll escape Theo van Gogh’s fate at least!” 27
Posted by Fr. John on Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:57 | # Guessed: You stated- “Or, indeed, his Holyness, Fr. John, since Holland is a Catholic country in much more dire demographic danger from Moslem populations than Britain.” If, by speaking of “His Holiness” you mean the Bishop of Rome, Pope Benedict [Arnold] the modern Roman ‘Catholi-schim’ assembly is fast becoming the “Whore of Babylon” the Entire edifice of Protestant Reformation thought aptly called her. As to Holland being a “catholic Country” I apologize. I only have encountered the Dutch Christian Reformed (Calvinist) wing here in the USA. It is the cold, sterile branch of unitarian calvinism gone to seed that fostered the sick, laissez-faire willingness to NOT call sin, sin… not the RC’s. But then, Cardinal Willebrands was Dutch, wasn’t he? Maybe it’s something in the cheese….. Gouda OR Edam, it all is beginning to stink, and the Muslims are merely God’s passive agent in chastising the people of God for their willing blasphemy, NOT the inevitability of Islams [sic] ‘superior’ religiosity, of which it has none. 28
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:04 | # Fr. John, As usual, I bow before your knowledge of the Christian ministry. Indeed I’m loathe to fight with you on that or anything else connected to the expression of faith. I was informed long ago that faith is the protector and last seat of conscience, and it should never be attacked for fear of destroying something in the heart of Man that is more beautiful, necessary and vivifying. I do attack it, of course. Regularly. But I think you must be excused rough handling in the matter. 29
Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:55 | # As usual I bow before any Fr John type knowledge regarding fairies at the brttom of gardens’ 30
Posted by 2R on Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:34 | # “KARMA is certainly a bitch isn’t it! LOL.” This idiot is so retarded that he/she doesn’t ever realize we could make the same argument. After the Moors, Huns, Mongols, Turks and other assorted Asian and African trash invaded Europe for a couple thousand years Europeans went out and did the same. Is this what you mean by “KARMA” you uneducated retard? 31
Posted by Robert Reis on Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:12 | # The positive side of theIslamificaation of Europe ought to be acknowledged. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=553008&in_page_id=1770
Two primary schools have withdrawn storybooks about same-sex relationships after objections from Muslim parents.
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Posted by symphony on Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:40 | # Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 28, 2008, 12:11 AM | # “he claims tight connections with the Mossad.” (—from the entry) Good. Those connections will come in handy for keeping the Moslems from doing a Theo van Gogh on him after they get a look at this film. He’s a brave man. Posted by J Richards on March 30, 2008, 08:52 AM | # And don’t get me wrong. I don’t sympathize with Muslims. There is consensus here that Muslims are bad news for the West. Are you Jokers feelin alright??? Muslims have what you Jokers wish you had and thats REAL power and it is all they need and we know you know too, and now you know we know you know:-) 33
Posted by starlight on Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:25 | # Posted by DavidL on March 29, 2008, 09:41 PM | # Without our considerable accomplishments in ALL fields of knowledge this “massive and majestic universe” will eat you alive. Are you feeling alright Joker??? Did you Discover or did you Create? All praise goes to the Creator. Yeah you Jokers have accomplished capturing the Power in the “Mighty Universe” that “will eat you alive” but yet you have nowhere near discovered the greatest accomplishment- The Creator behind that Power called the “Mighty Universe”.... As has been stated before on this site, the Jews( pseudo-semites) and the Ofcourse you dont deserve muslims (islam) you Joker you deserve what you have already got- The fear which you fear the fear of your own fear. 34
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:43 | #
Right, if only we hadn’t gotten saddled with all those estrogens from women’s urine in our drinking water Euro men would never have let the Desis take over but beware, Desis! We’re figuring out ways to fix the problem and when we do, watch out! ( http://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2009/03/urinary-estrogen-theory-part-ii.html ) By the way, Symphony, could you please stick with one single pen name? That way I and doubtless many others wouldn’t keep wasting time clicking on vacuousness that turns out to all be written by one and the same zero. 35
Posted by sweet symphony on Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:01 | # Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 28, 2009, 03:43 PM | # Scooby it is better to be a fool for five minutes than be a fool for the rest of your life…... ” men would never have let the Desis take over but beware, Desis!” Beware? Since when did Man=God? You know if your intention is to fool yourself Scooby you are doing a very good job. I will NOT beware of anything you do, play your own game with own your own self! and give it your best Shot. I dont however mind fooling you into believing I beware! “Desis take over” PROVE to me it is YOUR LAND! PROVE IT. PROVE to me YOU created “the Heavens and the Earth, the Universe and all that is between them. Pove to me you send down the water from the heavens to sustain YOUR LAND and let it gro” the day you PROVE it to me but that day will NEVER arrive because you cant prove it can you Scooby???. You think we dont know what you fear? No we know what you fear alright and it certainly aint the desis. ” We’re figuring out ways to fix the problem and when we do, watch out!” You little jokers are running around like little mad men still wondering what to possibly do and-there is EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD you can do but you WONT DO IT because there is NOTHING in the WORLD YOU CAN DO!!! (—Simpering Phoney) You know you are a Phoney Fraud and we know you are a Fraud and you know we know you are a Fraud and if you dont know we know you are a Fraud then your a bigger Joker than I give you credit for “wouldn’t keep wasting time” Exactly “wasting time” and what a way to answer your own questions. “clicking on vacuousness that turns out to all be written by one and the same zero2 The Vacuousness is the Vacuous Joker that spent his time bothering to respond to vacuousness. If I your not the Joker I think you then your the Joker I think you are. Read you —Simpering Phoney (by the way its great that you can address yourself in such an honest way) You have all my blessings to do the following: ” We’re figuring out ways to fix the problem and when we do, watch out!” Your asking me to watch out? I am watching out alright and you know what? I like what I see…. Im watching you clueless jokers alrite. If in case you think Im against whites/europeans or any other people preserving there bloodline race etc… your wrong I couldnt care less with issues that are not my buissness. The problem I have is with the way you people are using Islam/Islamic system of thought to argue your case except using it in a racial sense. YOU ARE NOT MUSLIMS. Though you have admitted you are “wasting time” I cant expect a fool to admit hes a fool without first knowing hes a fool but a fool can never know hes a fool otherwise he wouldnt be a fool:-) There is no point trying to convince me of your plans as I have already said you have my blessings perhaps it is yourself you need to convince. By the way I cant believe no let me rephrase that i can believe that you made note of the different pen names I use I would have thought it was obvious, its not who has said something that matters but its what has been said that matters and to say otherwise is empty talk. So that or any other trick wont work with me!!! 36
Posted by sweet symphony on Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:03 | # correction “the Heavens and the Earth, the Universe and all that is between them. Prove to me you send down the water from the heavens to sustain YOUR LAND and let it grow” 37
Posted by sweet symphony on Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:18 | # Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 28, 2009, 03:43 PM | # “We’re figuring out ways to fix the problem and when we do, watch out!” It Might work with the simpletons if your lucky! 38
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:07 | # Read the above posts and then reflect that that’s the kind of mentality the Archbishop of Canterbury wants deciding court cases now in Great Britain. 39
Posted by sweet symphony on Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:33 | # There is always a better way to sort out your differences with others….. You, I and Everyone are responsible for only the actions and thoughts of our own and noone elses. I am not responsible for what you do, say or think and nor am I responsible for the actions or thoughts of your race or anyone elses no matter how hard you may try to assign that responsibility to me. I am responsible for myself. However if you are keen to take responsibility for the actions and thoughts of everyone else including the white race by all means do, your welcome Posted by Fred Scrooby on March 29, 2009, 03:07 PM | # Read the above posts and then reflect that that’s the kind of mentality the Archbishop of Canterbury wants deciding court cases now in Great Britain. Wake up!!! Scrooby dear NOBODY is interested anymore in the kind of Justice the British Judical system meats out. People have seen it for the farce it is and in time they will see you for the farce you are too. Post a comment:
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:11 | #
Good. Those connections will come in handy for keeping the Moslems from doing a Theo van Gogh on him after they get a look at this film.
He’s a brave man.