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DanielS wrote:

Israeli “explanation”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsunQGmGeJ8#t=229

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cygnet wrote:

rise against the enemies of god

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DanielS wrote:

Adding:

“In that they are rejecting the furtive, socially garnered developmental process as facilitated by narrative and as offered in integrative correction by hermeneutics.”

There are some improvements such as this, to part 3 and part 2 which make them an even more clarifying and helpful read to whom it may concern.

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John wrote:

Gotta hand it to the jews, what a people. Has anti non-semitism ever been so rampant?

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DanielS wrote:

We can agree that Jewish and western capitalist interests had a significant role in creating the World Wars.

1. Yes, nations should have pride in their people, history, look after their people and borders, see to justice for theirs and freedom from Jewish usury, etc.

2. But while Hitler held some useful ideas, his overall worldview had inter-European war and imperialist supremacism built in from the start.

The second is not a corollary to the first. But as Hitler conceived it, it was a corollary.

I don’t believe he should be coddled as an icon by any nation or website. He certainly will not be here.

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TJ wrote:

Sir, my contention is that Hitler is and was for the most part irrelevant. If Hitler had not come to power and a more peaceful ethnic advocate had taken his place, the UK, USA, and USSR would have started the war. I am glad that we are on the same side regarding ethnic survival but I respect a great deal of what he tried to accomplish and would have liked to see such an advocate for English, Scots, and Irish. In the end Hitler still made egregious diplomatic and tactical errors due to that chauvinism and we all share blame in the war. I detest authoritarianism but I think all deserve due credit and honest treatment. We will never see another Nazi government.

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DanielS wrote:

Posted by TJ on July 26, 2014, 04:20 PM | #

I’ve been reading this site for a long time. I’ve read your postings and I know you have a fixation with Hitler.

I do not have a fixation with Hitler. That is apparently what you want to see in my motives. If you think I am fixated with Hitler it is because you are fixated with wanting to see him in a more favorable light.

It has been necessary to establish a WN platform where his worldview is not endorsed. Particularly as there are prominent WN sites where he is being promoted. With that, it has been necessary to establish reasoning as to why he is not endorsed here. That is not a fixation. I am not particularly interested in Hitler. I am interested in coordinating European nationalisms, however.

“WW2 was at best a complete waste of blood and treasure.”

Yes, and it was largely Hitler’s fault. He was a war monger.

“Germany tried several times to extend olive branches to the UK”

Maybe his aspirations were not to take over England, but the fact remains that he was a war monger.

“but the extent of Jewish manipulation prevented any diplomacy.”

There would have been Jewish manipulation in that way and Jewish manipulation prior that brought about the narrow and overcompensating response that was Hitler.

“Even we of British stock would have been better off under German occupation and everybody knows it.”

It’s a false either/or. Because Hitler should not have initiated the war. And that is the point that is disingenuously ignored by those who say that The US and Britain should not have joined the war. If you want to play hindsight (which is what you are doing), then Hitler should not have started the war - it was his call.

That he and the Nazis were frightening, were about war, had abysmal designs toward people of the east, there could be no doubt; that their platform was dangerously immoral in general terms was clear enough as well. It is obviously understandable why Slavic nations would fight against Hitler. France as well. Beyond moral reasons, which were sufficient, it is understandable why Britain would oppose Germany on strategic grounds.

Since then we have not been able to defend ourselves on racial grounds, against Jews, to be able to discriminate, and that is largely attributable to Hitler’s tactless, didactic over compensation in reaction to Jewish affliction - to which he responded in course as a German military man, a German chauvinist enamored of Friedrich the Great, The Teutonic Knights, i.e. German military history. 

If, for example, you read the three part essay, beginning http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_pejorative_side_of_modernity_or_civilization_competing_theories_or_alli

you will find Hitler mentioned a few times, but it is hardly the focus. More, if you look at other essays, it is hardly my focus. And that will be the case in days to come as other issues are taken up. It is because I have had to deal with contentions of persons such as yourself and with the fact that he is being promoted by other prominent WN sites that I have had to take this detour in explaining why it is not a good idea to try to promote Hitler.

Look at my last comment to Bill, about the Algerian Jew, Derrida. I am quite happy to discuss issues such as that.

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TJ wrote:

I’ve been reading this site for a long time. I’ve read your postings and I know you have a fixation with Hitler. WW2 was at best a complete waste of blood and treasure. Germany tried several times to extend olive branches to the UK, but the extent of Jewish manipulation prevented any diplomacy. Even we of British stock would have been better off under German occupation and everybody knows it.

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Maria wrote:

“Maria” says “I really like your writing style, super information.”


We can agree that black women are far less attractive. However, your peddling of race-mixing is the destruction of 41,000 years of evolution.

You care about rain forests? endangered species? well honey, we care about that and our co-evolution right along with it.

 

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DanielS wrote:

Its true, Bill, Derrida is a significant culprit, with his concept “erasure” (of structures that were of helpful guidance to us), his “deconstruction” (of our ancient cultural forms), his advocacy of outsiders (whom he disingenuously included into our groups as “marginals”).

He is one of those who provided an avenue for a lot of paying undergraduates to be consumers at the big business of universities - the business largely of selling talk, which is fed by “inclusion” (i.e., of students/customers/consumers) and in Derrida’s case, selling deconstruction to them, which was even easier - you don’t even have to be able to talk, just knock things down.


Re: outsiders misrepresented as “marginals” -

http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/miscegenation_as_equivalent_to_rape_and_pedophila_part_3

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Bill wrote:

@21 If you found Spike’s piece interesting then I suggest you might like the following.

Following the link provided, I chose this version ‘John Carey: The Intellectuals and the Masses’

Deja Vu all over again or what goes round comes round.  I see shades of MR here.

Carey ends his survey at 1939, but he reminds us that the old intellectual prejudices have not died out yet. The ever-expanding mass media have ‘driven the intellectuals to evolve an anti-popular cultural mode that can reprocess all existing culture and take it out of the reach of the majority.’ This mode is variously called ‘post-structuralism’, or ‘deconstruction’, or just plain ‘theory’, and it began in the 1960s with the work of Jacques Derrida. It has managed, says Carey, to evolve a language that is impenetrable to most native English-speakers. You can say that again. Much of it is gibberish. The whole wretched business was exposed by Alan Sokal.

Read all…

http://grumpyoldbookman.blogspot.co.uk/2005/08/john-carey-intellectuals-and-masses.html

 

 

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Bill wrote:

When did the tolerant become so intolerant.

The attitude of liberalism to freedom provides a prime example of these contradictory meanings. Classical liberalism, which was to the fore in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, typically placed a heavy emphasis on the importance of individual autonomy and liberty. In sharp contrast, contemporary liberalism tends to be deeply intolerant and elitist.

Fred Siegel, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank based in New York, has provided an enormous service with his innovative history of modern American liberalism, The Revolt Against the Masses. It helps put many of the most retrograde trends in the US into their proper context. It also helps shed light on parallel developments in other countries, including Britain, even though they are outside Siegel’s remit.

For Siegel, a defining feature of modern liberalism is its attachment to what he calls the clerisy – a technocratic elite which he identifies with academia, Hollywood, the prestige press, Silicon Valley and Wall Street. Despite its professed attachment to equality of opportunity, this elite holds the mass of the American public, what Siegel refers to as ‘the middle class’, in contempt. The clerisy sees itself as superior to the rest of the population on meritocratic grounds.

Read all…

http://www.spiked-online.com/review_of_books/article/liberals-against-liberalism/15365#.U9M_sLGcbcc

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Dude wrote:

Without a recently amended constitution, it is hard to decipher. The tale given by those with connections from the inside is that it was a National Executive decision, due to bad electoral results. Considering Griffin’s procedural pugnaciousness, the smoothness of the transition seems a little too pat. Here’s one of those ex-insiders: http://alternative-right.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/griffin-bites-dust-after-election.html

What strikes me is the collective shrug of semi-indifference, from those who have waited for this moment for a decade. Everyone is riding the tiger.

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Dude wrote:

Complete with greengrocer’s apostrophe. Must be Friday.

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Dude wrote:

Following on from Dave Lister and his general points, I see that the Green’s are even making noises about immigration, community cohesion etc, alongside the usual motifs of ‘equality’: http://www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/commentators/2442607/love_immigrants_hate_immigration.html

I have tried this piece out on a few of my leftist friends and acquaintances and it is interesting how receptive they are when arguments are not delivered by the wrong sorts. The ineluctable desire to be seen (and felt) as a ‘good’ person.

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DanielS wrote:

“I merely see this as a natural counter-swing towards reality, along with the revisionist movement which has managed to demonstrate the fraudulent nature of the “Holocaust” narrative.”

I have said as much, that it is a counter swing, but it is not merely, because it is a serious and self perpetuating matter - Americans are not that mixed, they are mostly of demographics overly disposed to be receptive to pro Hitler propaganda.

Moreover, you, and “the revisionists”, are assuming that the only reason that “the Holocaust” has manipulative sway is for gross exaggeration.

Rather, it loses manipulative sway more effectively, I would argue, when placed in the context and relativized by accurate and honest explanation of Jewish misdeeds.

By contrast, revisionism has generally been a perversely trivial logical parsing of mass death.

That makes the struggle look bad - illustrating logic blinding itself to judgment - it is especially bad because we don’t need it.

That goes to address the next point: it makes the struggle look bad to be associated with these logical ghouls.

“Contrary to what you’re saying here, I don’t see this as leading to yet another fratricidal bloodbath.”

That is not the only concern, though that is a concern a well.

The concern is gross misrepresentation of the struggle with gross exaggerations (as for example, in the case of the Greatest Story Never Told), a slap in the face and the betrayal, the spitting on the graves of the ancestors of so many who are naturally allied in European interests.

For what? For Hitler? Are you kidding me? You say that I am the one who should give it a rest? My point exactly - Renegade, Daily Stormer, Carolyn Yeager, American Nationalist Network…even sentiments lurking beneath the surface of Duke and Black - expressed more explicitly in their side kicks.

This is a huge part of the White Nationalist/nativist European audience.. I think the suggestion as to who should give it a rest is appropriately directed there.


“Most of the Americans you’re referring to have mixed European backgrounds.”

So stop dividing our advocacy with insistence upon resurrecting Hitler. He was not a trifling “hot head”, he was a war monger of the most catastrophic order.

Enough already.

I went back through what I’ve said to see how it was supposed to be a “rant”.

A rant would imply something “out of the blue and firing aimlessly.” I’ve been biting my tongue (have been for years).  I quoted Metzger, is that a rant? Everyone rejecting Hitler and wanting to move to issues of the present is hysterical?

You say that I am over concerned to stave off an inter European bloodbath.

How about to stave off gross misrepresentation of the facts, misrepresentation of the struggle for native European sovereignty, concern for bad tact toward fence sitters, spitting on the graves of forefathers and slapping the face of people who are ready to be aligned, just to name a few concerns?

Regards.

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Bill wrote:

If someone had said to me as recent as only ten years ago that it would be possible for the world’s elites to overturn the order of human behaviour (evolved over thousands of years) in the time-span of a few decades I would never have believed them.

If it was possible (which I don’t think it is) to explain to our people the enormity of what has taken place and what is intended for them (only the tip of the iceberg so far) in this world of ours, they would be incapable of absorbing such information.

Human formation is no longer about rich and poor. Somewhere down the line the emphasis has changed from class to one of intelligence with a faux sense of higher purpose in life, (lol) thus spawning an esoteric Us and Them.  Them being the ignorant masses.

Breeding is not longer the benchmark of social status, it has been replaced by the hubris of knowledge and expertise derived from mass higher education since the sixties, nobless oblige is out, Tony Blair-ism is in.

It is this new breed of in your face arrogance that has been co-opted into launching a New World order.  Without the treacherous help of these people the architects of the scheme could not succeed.

I suspect throughout history the elite rulers have viewed their charges as inferior cattle, which is a rather curious for if that’s the case, from where did the term Nobless Oblige arise?

For well over a decade of ever increasing immigration the media and politicians have steadfastly refused to debate the issue, it is incredulous how this feat of silence has managed to be sustained, though unprecedented vilification of the population with accusations of every description from lazy fat slobs to welfare scroungers, at the same time implying the native English are not fit to polish the shoes of the migrant.

This situation no longer applies, the simmering cauldron of race and immigration has now reached the long overdue stage where is will dominate politics from now on, the media and politicians can no longer continue whistling in the dark ignoring the concern of millions.

All of which brings our attention to the not too distant General Election next year.  I cannot envisage anything other than the dominant issue being one of immigration, of course the media will try every trick to divert attention to the economy or other some-such.

The big question for nationalism is to what effect will the democratic process shape events?  There’s a voluble number who openly say they have no faith in the system and voting will have very little affect on the eventual outcome.

But we’re not there yet, media sponsored Nigel Farage of UKIP made great strides in the EU and local elections but has since has fallen silent, the media and Farage himself have (temporarily) vanished from the scene.

Our present world is in turmoil, a whole catalogue of military adventures by Anglo-Zionist forces has scorched a path across Africa, the middle east and beyond.

World War III is openly being discussed even in elevated circles.

Forces of the right are noticeably gaining a foothold across the whole spectrum, there is no sign of let up from the Globalists, time seems to be of the essence, they are forever pushing the envelope.

All in all, it is adding up (in Britain) to a more than interesting run up to next year’s election.  Perhaps if nothing else, the election will provide a public platform to get our message across, which is most vital.

Anyone seen Farage?

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Guessedworker wrote:

In my inbox this morning:

Official statement from the NEW BNP leader

Dear fellow patriot,

Many of you will already know me. For some years I have been the BNP National Organiser leading our street protests, for example demanding the restoration of capital punishment for the killers of Lee Rigby, while others will know me for my union work as a former president of the nationalist union Solidarity.

I am honoured to have been selected to replace Nick Griffin and lead the BNP in this exciting new era.

My leadership style is likely to be very different from that of my predecessor because we are very different people. I will be pleased to listen to Nick’s views alongside all the activists and supporters of the British National Party. Having taken those views into account I will make my own mind up and my own decisions.

My primary focus is reconnecting the BNP with the ordinary person in the street. That means that any extremist language or dogma is unwelcome. Nationalism is about promoting the interests of the people. The people are always right, and I want to build a popular and genuine nationalist alternative to the rotten old political parties without compromising any of our core BNP principles.

The BNP enjoys huge support from the British public and it’s my principal aim to convert that huge support into votes and real electoral success.

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Leon wrote:

Lister@12

Much to agree with, some to criticize, but as I am no longer an MR participant, I would only like to point out that the following

What I have dubbed the ‘ethno-communitarian’ for want of a better term.

is not true. I originally dubbed Dr. Lister “an ethnocommunitarian social democrat”, which did seem the best description of his position.

Please note my disapproval of that particular political disposition.

 

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TJ wrote:

They come off as rants to me. I absolutely view WW1 & WW2 as unmitigated fratricidal disaster. I overwhelmingly agree with you. But it is also true that there is a significant imbalance to the personification Hitler as the devil by the media. I merely see this as a natural counter-swing towards reality, along with the revisionist movement which has managed to demonstrate the fraudulent nature of the “Holocaust” narrative.

Contrary to what you’re saying here, I don’t see this as leading to yet another fratricidal bloodbath. Most of the Americans you’re referring to have mixed European backgrounds.

Regards

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DanielS wrote:

Posted by TJ on July 25, 2014, 12:59 AM | #

Getting tired hearing these rants about Hitler. He was a hot-head. He lead an incredible white movement. He pegged the Jews and took appropriate removal steps. Fast forward to 2014. Yep they still lost. The Hitler worshipers are around for good reason and they aren’t going anywhere (literally and figuratively). Will you move on?

“Getting tired hearing these rants about Hitler.”

They are not rants, they are reasoned responses to absurdly believed pro Hitler propaganda being advanced by several popular sites proposing to be pro-White.

And no, you cannot be pro-White by advocating a figure such as Hitler who is so necessarily going to create inter-European conflict.


“He was a hot-head.”

He was a war monger. It is clear to any honest person after the first five pages of Mein Kampf.  His war was not only against Jews, but inter European.


“He pegged the Jews and took appropriate removal steps”

He pegged the Jews but did NOT take sufficient, appropriate removal steps: had he done that, he would have coordinated the effort with other European countries, who were aware of conflicting interests with Jews as well.


“Fast forward to 2014. Yep they still lost.”


And we all would have been better off if a military man concerned basically for restoring the glory of Friedrich the Great’s German chauvinism and imperialism, had not come to power, but a far far better coalition of European leaders able to negotiate our symbiotic interests.


“The Hitler worshipers are around for good reason and they aren’t going anywhere (literally and figuratively). Will you move on?”

They are a “logical” first reaction for some American demographics in the fallout and growing awareness of Jewish instigated disaster there. “Hitler must have been right” - and they overcompensate in that reaction. But it is because their reaction is popular among people going under the flag of White Nationalism, bound to create inter European conflict and because there is NOT good reason for them to worship Hitler, that unfortunately they must be addressed from time to time, where necessary.

I would love to not talk about it and am surprised that it is necessary, but it is.

 

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TJ wrote:

Getting tired hearing these rants about Hitler. He was a hot-head. He lead an incredible white movement. He pegged the Jews and took appropriate removal steps. Fast forward to 2014. Yep they still lost. The Hitler worshipers are around for good reason and they aren’t going anywhere (literally and figuratively). Will you move on?

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DanielS wrote:

Graham, brilliant comment, thank you. Much to consider there and a reminder of why GW values your participation here.

I am glad to be reminded that non-Jewish, neo-liberal, interests can be just as cunning as any adversary, even if not quite as organized and deliberately adversarial, etc.

I will leave discussion of the issue of keeping American / European concerns from interfering with each other if not helping one another for another time. Even if one might like to simply ignore European Americans (I know, to you an oxymoron) its probably is not best to put our heads in the sand.

Part of the idea of coordination is just that - it is to keep people from interfering with one another; it is not about integrating them (which is your nightmare).

Other than to commend the many good thoughts for consideration, I would add critique of one thing.


Graham said:

“For culture read our ‘way of being in the world’ in its totality (biological/ethic, linguistic, cultural etc.) – and of course ‘culture’ for all human beings is grounded in and emerges from our biology.”

I would propose an adjustment here, something like:

and of course, ‘culture’ for all human being is grounded in and emerges in interactions of our biological constitution.

................................................................


Bill said:


“How and where would one start to educate our people to become aware of their looming fate in such a morass of postmodern drug inspired bollocks.”

To start by not continuing to propose “postmodern” in a pejorative sense, as it is the concept they need to turn back into their historical, genetic interests.

Although I can appreciate that you are marking a protest in distinction from Americans….as native Europeans would find reconstructing their culture a great deal more “natural” - i.e., “modern” and not “cultural”, i.e., “postmodern.”

Nevertheless, Post Modern is entirely suitable and necessary for native European use as modernity is prone to wreak havoc here as anywhere; and Europeans also need the post modern circuit breaker and capacity to return to tradition and time immemorial forms; but also to take our native European modern quests where appropriate - for example to burrow into understanding our biological structures and ontology.

“I wonder how Farage is going to fare?

I’m waiting for a New World Order for Dummies.”

From what I gather, the “New World Order Dummies” (read corporate interests) are the one’s pulling his strings. Still, to jettison the EU would be wonderful. I guess they are dangling that bit of meat as they had “End The Fed” via Ron Paul.

They know people will bite (taking up the rest of the program) and they can siphon off a great deal of opposition.

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Bill wrote:

@12

Griffin of course was, I think, utterly incapable of articulating such a type of politics.

Says it all really.

The BNP is/was a working class movement and by extension and Griffin was sufficiently astute to see the potential.

The one thing that has remained with me throughout this science fiction odyssey is the vast range and scope of disciplines it encompasses.

As for myself I’m still meeting myself coming back.

How and where would one start to educate our people to become aware of their looming fate in such a morass of postmodern drug inspired bollocks.

Griffin knew he was on a loser there so he went route one.

I wonder how Farage is going to fare?

I’m waiting for a New World Order for Dummies.

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Graham_Lister wrote:

A very pithy and astute comment on the matter from GW.

I do think that genuinely sophisticated - intellectually, morally/ethically, and politically – forms of non-liberal European nationalisms are possible. What I have dubbed the ‘ethno-communitarian’ for want of a better term.

Griffin of course was, I think, utterly incapable of articulating such a type of politics. Probably both for psychological/personal reasons as well as his political and analytical/ideological limitations (Fascism really is dumb in the extreme). Griffin simply didn’t have the vision thing, nor did he have the trustworthy/character thing going on either. He appeared to be a bit thick and quite slimy into the bargain. In fact he always appeared to my eyes as little more than someone that had their world-view premised upon the following; “Wogs are odd/different/inferior” supplemented by the “Jews are the root of all evil”, and finally “Wasn’t Hitler a really nice bloke”.

Not much to build a successful or indeed popular ideology upon there – nor indeed the basis for a substantive politico-moral critique of contemporary society.

That ability to develop (and convincingly articulate) a compelling alternative narrative – to alter the coordinates of political discourse – one that changes the conceptional framework by which people think and feel about politics (and culture, ethics etc.) is at the very heart of ideological struggles and shifts within modern history (and necessarily it’s a counter-hegemonic account – today liberalism in all its various forms has ‘full spectrum dominance’ even if half-witted American follows of Hayek fool themselves into thinking that somehow they are not liberals too!).

Ideologically serious politics is all about changing that ‘picture of the world’ by which people understand and evaluate the political possibilities (in the widest sense of that term). Understanding what the process and mechanism(s) of what we can call ideological interpellation or how politico-ethical subjectivities are formulated is the key. Griffin is simply not even on speaking terms with serious political thought nor indeed the pragmatic arts of politics. Griffin’s talent seems to be in money-grubbing from the BNP rubes but that’s of no interest to anyone with a meta-political IQ above room temperature.

Like I have said before an ethno-communitarian politics has to have way more to it than “Wogs smell and look funny” or clichéd ‘conservative’ and/or reactionary boiler-plate. It conceptually matters not one jot if the ‘invaders’ are all super-intellectual green aliens from Mars that quote Kant et al., in between discussions of the wonders of Bach. Even if the aforementioned little green men where ‘objectively’ superior I still would not wish my ethno-polis to be shared with them in any substantive way. Primarily because of the relationship of social-capitial to homogeneity, in addition to worries about my group eventually becoming only one of several players within that polis (or even a minority with the polis) and what that would imply for the political distribution of political power and dynamics/instability of such an overly ‘diverse’ polis. Even the most homogeneous of mass societies has quite enough inherent diversity and forms of political/economic/cultural/geographic cleavages/fault-lines. Finally, survive and ethnocentric continuity is over the longer term also a pressing matter! The method of suicide (delightful little green men versus say the Chinese, or Africans or whoever) is ultimately quite irrelevant.

Just on that topic the Scottish novelist James Kelman recently wrote the following on the issue of Scottish independence:

“Independence is not an economic decision, it concerns self-respect. How many countries do we know in the world where the people need a debate about whether or not they should determine their own existence. Ultimately it concerns survival. For whatever value our culture has it is ours, and like Sorely MacLean once said about the Gaelic language, even if it was a poor thing, it would still be loved, and those who used it would still have the desire to see it flourish.”

For culture read our ‘way of being in the world’ in its totality (biological/ethic, linguistic, cultural etc.) – and of course ‘culture’ for all human beings is grounded in and emerges from our biology. The value of say being Scottish, English, Basque or Flemish (or indeed whatever) is not found in some calculus of superiority/inferiority (oh the Japanese are ‘objectively’ superior - I wish I could be one of them and ‘cancel’ my own identity etc.) but rather in the process of autochthonous emergence – this is what I am and I cannot authentically be anything else and even if my place in this world (my nation) is NOT the best in the world I still love it and have gratitude towards our collective trans-generational ‘moral community’ simply because it is mine. It’s our beloved home in the world and we must make the best of it for ourselves and those that will come after us etc.

Which of course is why 99% of Americans are useless in understanding this ideological/psychological bedrock of any serious form of European nationalism - as the USA is founded on the mythology (and in some ways the truth) of precisely being able to radically change one’s identity and start afresh (in every way imaginable). Thus in its ontological liberalism the American ideology (and those grown in its soil) are the embodiment of the allochtoon in contrast to old European autochtoons. I think that emotional and ideological gap is nearly unbridgeable. But that is getting way off topic.

This comment appeared in entry 'Nick Griffin gives way for Adam Walker' on 07/24/14, 09:11 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)

Guessedworker wrote:

The following comment actually got posted by the Guardian pre-mod.  I must be slipping.  Anyway, it’s pretty much what I think of Griffin.

Griffin’s BNP is/was widely regarded among former activists as the Griffin Family Business or, at least, a scam operation for the leadership clique.  The other way of looking at it is/was as the party of SO15.  Whatever it was, it never did justice to the people it nominally sought to protect and preserve.

That shouldn’t have been difficult.  Nationalism for the English people (it’s easier to speak of the English, since it is in England that the whole issue is most visible) should be a natural and moral politics in an age of completely unwanted, unasked-for colonisation and replacement.  The demographics for the English are known, complete with forward projections of minoritisation.  The context of globalism is public knowledge already.  The party could and should have enunciated a politics of the English life on a basis of universal principles.  It could have justly argued that one cannot simply demand of any people of the land that it gives up its existence for the sake of a non-possible post-racial utopia.  It could have developed a devastating moral critique of the entire process.

By this means it would have silenced the cheap cries of “racism”, “fascism”, and “hate” and so forth, and exposed the Establishment to the unanswerable question: What are we English to do when no part of the body politic will do anything for us?

I believe that Griffin knew this option was available.  Sometimes he could get quite close to enunciating parts of it.  But he always turned back into the anti-Islam rhetoric and the dullard irrelevancies of appeals to the WW2 spirit and so on.  He sought controversy.  He responded to criticism like the martinet he was.  He seemed unduly interested in confirming the negative image of him and his party created in the media (which is why so many assumed that the security services pulled his strings).

His real legacy is that he and his party operated as a dog in the manger, and still do.  No politics for the English people can be generated while they exist; and those who, frankly, care nothing for the English are the only ones who will celebrate that.

This comment appeared in entry 'Nick Griffin gives way for Adam Walker' on 07/24/14, 05:13 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)

DanielS wrote:

David Duke keeps saying that “you don’t just re-define ‘racism’...

We are not re-defining racism, we are describing it as people use it, not by what the Jews say it means.

However, he says it means this, that and the other thing to the public…

What that this, that and the other thing to him is: supremacism, hate, exploitation.


No, that is what Jewish interests have tried to promote as corollaries to racism…and most people do believe these things can come about as a result of racism..

..a supremacism they (rightfully) fear in the scientism of the right’s mishandling of social classification (associations the Jews have been able to place upon the right, and which the right has bought into thanks to its hubris).

However, when you listen to the way ordinary people discuss ‘racism’ in the every day, they mean social classification and discrimination on its basis. Even the most innocuous discrimination is considered racism.

Which again, is what we need to be free to do. Whereas Duke suggests that the endeavor to pirate and take control of the meaning of racism in its benign sense is stupid. I disagree. I believe his playing into the Jewish demonization of what is designated by racism is stupid. Metzger is more correct in his analogy of the Quakers - originally a derisive term, they owned it and took it over. I would not deny being a racist myself - in fact, Paul Weston has done this to great effect (owned racism) - Duke is free to do as he pleases.

It isn’t necessarily stupid for him to do that (denounce Jewish racism) as a provisional strategy, which he does to good effect in order to get word out articulating Jewish power and influence - as he does very well.

What is “stupid” however, is to say that everyone should adopt this strategy, because “everyone sees racism as supremacism” - most people’s understanding of racism is much more subtle than that and is closer to the matter of discrimination.

At any rate, Duke is free to talk about it as he wishes.

I, for one, am not going to go around calling people racists, as if that is such a terrible thing.

I doubt that I am the only one who could not control his gag reflex at the idea of playing into the Jewish demonization of the very thing we need to do.

Moreover, to focus everything on the J.Q., deposing them, as Duke proposes, is perhaps not a goal that can be achieved on time; he is free to work on that in his project.

MR’s audience is better advised to keep that hermeneutic process turning: Yes, as problems for us go, Jewish power and influence should be prioratized and looked at as frequently as anything, but not beyond reconstructing our own health and ways, and not to the exclusion of looking at other problems.

To look upon other groups as harmless is another way of buying into Jewish language games. If you connect with your senses, you are going to be able to take care of yourself against their immediate threat, develop immunities to their particular dangers, and will naturally ask how is it that they are being imposed upon us? Thus, it is not necessarily a distraction from the JQ at all. On the contrary, not accepting Jewish language games of these people being harmless is part and parcel of being Jew-wise. But even incidental contact with the most benign blacks (for example) * in the longer term, will be harmful; whether imposed on us by Jews or not. Caring about our own interests and not being obsequiously concerned about non-Whites is the road to recovery. The moral high ground that European people’s rightfully insist upon is to be found in the Silver Rule.

It is fine and tactful to be concerned about atrocities against Palestinians, but we have to take care of ourselves and have other concerns as well. Yes, Jewish power and influence should be in focus, but here, the hermeneutic process will be an ongoing survey of our full landscape of concerns, as we should.


* Though I strongly disapprove of his platform, it would be wrong to say that Andrew Anglin does not make a good point now and then: “I don’t know what the people are talking about who say blacks are going to help us bring down the system. Blacks are completely dependent upon it.”

This comment appeared in entry 'Definitions' on 07/24/14, 02:15 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)

Gordon McRobert wrote:

Lawrence Newman wrote:

And how do you propose dealing with the Islam/nigger problem?

By putting together a serious political party that acts in a professional manner as opposed to just tolerating the clownish Gri££in Family Business as the only alternative. If the British cannot buck their ideas up and get some principles then I guess we are fuxored.

This comment appeared in entry 'Nick Griffin gives way for Adam Walker' on 07/23/14, 07:17 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)

Guessedworker wrote:

Mr Nill, Daniel,

The radio element of MR’s software has an automatic connection to audio files in the MR audio cache.  It cannot operate outside the MR cache, which is why files hosted elsewhere don’t appear on the page.

This comment appeared in entry 'Nick Griffin gives way for Adam Walker' on 07/23/14, 04:00 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)

DanielS wrote:

There are a couple of audio interviews not listed in the MR radio section that probably should be, Mr. Nill. It seems to me they should be in the radio section, though maybe there is a good or benign reason why they are not.

I don’t know if this is an accident, an oversight or deliberate.

I hadn’t thought of Bowery’s interview with Cobb, but now that you mention it..that should be there too; even though it was undertaken somewhat independently by Jim, it is MR enough.

Neither are the interviews with Tom Metzger or Tanstaafl listed in the radio archive - never were

In addition, when opportune, I will find out why Bowery’s interview with Kenneth Humphreys is not there at the moment. That interview had been there but isn’t right now. It’s an important resource.

These are all important resources that might be overlooked if not filed in their proper category.

There might be an accidental reason for these interviews not being on the radio page, or there may be a deliberate reason.

In the meantime, MR continues to take its new form free from the guff and rif raff its been saddled with. Isn’t it nice, by contrast, to have this discussion between GW and concerned English Nationalists? I am saying “wheew!, it’s refreshing!” and I think that normal people will feel much the same.

As this more sane direction crystallizes we can look into making it more convenient to re-connect with MR’s past: i.e. get those radio shows onto the radio page and get the pagination back at the bottom of the main page so that people can look more easily through MR’s history.

This comment appeared in entry 'Nick Griffin gives way for Adam Walker' on 07/22/14, 11:22 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)

Mr Nill wrote:

Why is the radio interview between bowery/cobb not listed in the mr radio section?

http://www.majorityrights.com/audio/PaulCraigCobb.mp3

This comment appeared in entry 'Nick Griffin gives way for Adam Walker' on 07/22/14, 09:34 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)

Lawrence Newman wrote:

Gordon McRobert,

And how do you propose dealing with the Islam/nigger problem?

This comment appeared in entry 'Nick Griffin gives way for Adam Walker' on 07/22/14, 02:36 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)

Gordon McRobert wrote:

Lawrence Newman wrote:

There will be a time for a party like the BNP but it’s not now.

The BNP is a scam outfit masquerading as a political party. I don’t think we need another like that thank you.

This comment appeared in entry 'Nick Griffin gives way for Adam Walker' on 07/22/14, 12:54 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)

Lawrence Newman wrote:

Guessedworker,

Okay, question answered.  It’s just that I keep hearing that his performance on Question Time made him look foolish.  That’s not the impression I got.  I thought he handled himself pretty well considering he was being attacked constantly for an hour by the audience and the panel. 

The British public are just too naive to understand what’s coming.  There will be a time for a party like the BNP but it’s not now.

This comment appeared in entry 'Nick Griffin gives way for Adam Walker' on 07/22/14, 10:29 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)

Bill wrote:

From the moment I became interested in the BNP via its embryo website I felt Griffin’s strategy of anti Islam with no deviation was the wrong way to go.  To those voters who had no first hand experience of Muslim immigration, or for that matter no eyeball contact with much migration at all in their areas, these people could not relate to such an un-English state of affairs.

Later I became aware of the anti-jihad sites which MR (GW) soon put me right to be wary off, as these sites were not deemed to be against immigration per se, but rather keen not to embrace the Muslim variety.

To the uninitiated, Griffin could easily be tarred with the same brush, yet over a decade later his warnings have been vindicated, which in some small way lessens the charge of neglect.

My sympathies go out to those thousands who braved the front line leafleting, lions led by donkeys comes to mind.

In summary, I still think the main plank of anti Islam was the wrong strategy for that time and impeded the overall trajectory of nationalism, had Griffin’s thinking of future impact of mass immigration on our island been more clearly enunciated, the whole sad story of the BNP and Britain might have been very different.

This comment appeared in entry 'Nick Griffin gives way for Adam Walker' on 07/22/14, 07:05 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)

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