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The Rotherham Pathology
August 27, 2014 — Kevin MacDonald
The horrifying scandal in Rotherham (previous versions covered copiously for TOO by Tobias Langdon) continues to unfold. A report commissioned by the city council stated that at least 1400 children were sexually abused over 16 years.
It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered. They were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted, beaten, and intimidated. There were examples of children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone. Girls as young as 11 were raped by large numbers of male perpetrators. This abuse is not confined to the past but continues to this day. … One young person told us that ‘gang rape’ was a usual part of growing up in the area of Rotherham in which she lived. …
Within social care, the scale and seriousness of the problem was underplayed by senior managers. At an operational level, the Police gave no priority to CSE, regarding many child victims with contempt and failing to act on their abuse as a crime. Further stark evidence came in 2002, 2003 and 2006 with three reports known to the Police and the Council, which could not have been clearer in their description of the situation in Rotherham. The first of these reports was effectively suppressed because some senior officers disbelieved the data it contained. This had led to suggestions of cover- up. The other two reports set out the links between child sexual exploitation and drugs, guns and criminality in the Borough. These reports were ignored and no action was taken to deal with the issues that were identified in them.
The authorities knew about it but did not act because of fear of being labeled “racists”:
By far the majority of perpetrators were described as ‘Asian’ by victims, yet throughout the entire period, councillors did not engage directly with the Pakistani-heritage community to discuss how best they could jointly address the issue. Some councillors seemed to think it was a one-off problem, which they hoped would go away. Several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so.
And, this collective attempt to remove the ethnic element continues. As James Delingpole notes, the BBC’s report didn’t mention ethnicity until 20 paragraphs in. Delingpole continues:
And even then, the embarrassing fact slips out only with the most blushing mealy-mouthedness:
By far the majority of perpetrators of abuse were described as “Asian” by victims. [Another BBC report stated “The inquiry team noted fears among council staff of being labelled ‘racist’ if they focused on victims’ descriptions of the majority of abusers as ‘Asian’ men.” Majority?? Perhaps 51% It would be much closer to the truth to say they were all Asian.]
Well hang on, a second. What this phrase seems to be hinting at is the possibility that the men involved weren’t “Asian” (note to US readers: Asian is UK PC-speak for Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, not orientals) but that the victims mistakenly took them to be so. Is that actually the case or not? …
[It happened] because the kind of politically correct, left-leaning and basically rather thick people that local authorities like Rotherham Council tend to have working for them are so paralysed by modish concerns about cultural sensitivity that they have made an obscene judgement call: better to allow at least 1400 kids to be hideously abused than to be thought guilty of the far greater crimes of being thought a bit racist or accidentally offending someone.
(And this isn’t an incident confined to Rotherham by the way. The same thing happened recently in Oxford, again involving men with decidedly un-Anglo-Saxon names, again over a long period of time because all the relevant authorities were scared of sounding the alarm in case they came across as racist)
When I told a friend about this, his immediate reaction was that White people deserve to go extinct if they allow this sort of thing to happen. Allowing industrial scale rape of your children by ethnic outsiders is simply inconceivable in a healthy society.
It’s hard to disagree with that. This is a pathology so extreme that it should really be considered a collective psychosis. And of course we see the same thing throughout the West — at its worst among northern Europeans.
In attempting to explain this, I have discussed the tendency of Europeans to form moral ingroups rather than kinship-based groups which are the norm in the rest of the world — a component of European individualism. It’s a very adaptive mechanism, resulting in high-trust societies relatively free of the corruption, nepotism and ethnically based strife so common in many parts of the world.
But when the reins of the culture have been captured by hostile elites that have decreed that multiculturalism is a moral imperative and massively incentivized their creation, it can lead to extremely maladaptive consequences as we see here.
Read full article at Occidental Observer..
This comment appeared in entry 'Britain's Camp of The Saints' on 08/29/14, 10:19 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
taylor swift wrote:
I do have sympathy for your condition: as someone who could not have and has never done anything original, you have to believe that everything comes from somewhere else. It is of course true that there is a trope or pattern fulfilled by the image: a glamour shot of Taylor Swift overlain with the text of a right-wing comment falsely attributed to her. This trope may well have come from 4chan/pol: so much the better for /pol! But you will try in vain to find that particular quotation at 4chan, or anywhere else, at least with a posting date previous to the one here.
Here, Soren waxes territorial over a silly quote laid over a picture of Taylor Swift. And pretending he was not at all inspired by the 4chan fad. Because he’s original, you see.
This comment appeared in entry 'swift passage' on 08/28/14, 11:41 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
I think there is every indication that Britain has reached its Camp of the Saints moment, where millions of immigrants from every corner of the globe are now making their presence felt in so many negative ways, housing, jobs, overburdened institutions, social cohesion, lost of identity, crime, and not least, a national void and sense of foreboding.
Our elites are showing no sign of let up, the rip tide of humanity landing on our shores (and through our airports) is applauded by the liberal establishment, and yet still the majority of natives cannot understand the logic of it all. The tipping point looms nearer by each single day.
In Raspail’s story the liberal elites cave at every turn, until only Switzerland remains as an armed nation of resistance, only for them to crumble in the final hour in the full glare of liberal guilt, France is lost, western civilisation is lost.
There is no indication in Raspail’s thinking that the white race is under threat of existence from a deliberate attack by unknown dark forces or who would undertake such a dastardly plan.
Raspail’s tale tells us western civilisation had lost confidence in itself and in some way had no right to determine its tribe’s own future, like rabbits in the headlamp’s glare, whites are paralysed to act in their own defence.
Perhaps Britain is at this stage in the cycle of mass immigration, for there is no real sign of resistance from the mass of the people, still less as to what will galvanise them into any future kind of action.
Furthermore, Raspail’s unfolding imagination does not extend to a narrative where Britain and America are engaged in fermenting a World war in which to bring about their New World Order, all of which throws Rumsfeld unknown-unknowns into the immigration chaos.
As I have commented before, it seems when the elites have accomplished their goal, their is no plan B as to what will replace it.
How and when will we know when all is won or lost?
This comment appeared in entry 'Can violence come?' on 08/28/14, 04:53 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Søren Renner wrote:
uKnLeo, I do have sympathy for your condition: as someone who could not have and has never done anything original, you have to believe that everything comes from somewhere else. It is of course true that there is a trope or pattern fulfilled by the image: a glamour shot of Taylor Swift overlain with the text of a right-wing comment falsely attributed to her. This trope may well have come from 4chan/pol: so much the better for /pol! But you will try in vain to find that particular quotation at 4chan, or anywhere else, at least with a posting date previous to the one here. Snark away, duckling.
This comment appeared in entry 'swift passage' on 08/28/14, 01:45 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Mick Lately wrote:
How much time is left for a political solution?
If politics fails then it’s war.
The prospective programme of mass (full) repatriation is getting more difficult all the time.
This comment appeared in entry 'Can violence come?' on 08/28/14, 10:47 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
its amazeing how stupid people can be white people have relly gotten to a point were they cant find black or other race women attractive. every one here know the first man and wemon were black and lived in africa even urwhite bible described animals native only to africa n im pretty sure they have melatonin in their skin( what makes people dark or light) or they would have been burned by the african heat n sun. when people started heading north they got lighter not much sun in europe foggy n some part. so there was no need for that much melatonin so people became lighter. u can even look up how snow rabbits became whit n how polar bears did the saye thing white man did. it proven fully on the animal level n we are animals n we do and did the same thing.i live in minneapolis n its winter 8 months out of the year min n i have fully black reletives comming out lighter n lighter im a 4th gen mn resident im bown but if i got to the south im light to them
This comment appeared in entry 'Physiognomy and Liking: My Experience' on 08/28/14, 10:24 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Ok, as assigned by Dr. Lister, I have commenced to reading-up on W.D. Hamilton.
I see that it is an embarrassing omission in my library (I had only read Hamilton as discussed by E.O. Wilson and others). Though glaring omissions in our library many of us have - I doubt that Dr. Lister has read William James or John Dewey, while he summarily pronounces Americans to be hopeless idiots.
Nevertheless, many things do come together with Hamilton, including much long standing discussion here at MR.
My hope is to be somewhat conversant on Hamilton, to facilitate worthy discussion, and with that, that it will be understood finally, that it is discussion and joint construction of knowledge that we seek at MR, not the presentation of myself as the expert, disseminating knowledge lineally to a passive third person audience of receptacles.
Regarding discussion by E.O. Wilson in critque of Hamilton, here is where I left off:
I think we should stick to the plan of summarizing EO Wilson’s argument, which is a good one for us - as opposed to Hamilton’s universalizing theory, Wilson provides for qualitative and incommensurate paradigms, including ways to talk about a White difference that makes a difference (yes, these terms apply to the article under discussion, wherein Wilson, et al critique and differ from Hamilton’s theory with a view of paradigmatic incommensuration).
This is a digression from my “homework” of reading Hamilton proper, but I wanted to touch upon where Wilson referenced Hamilton:
Among other radical criticisms proposed against Hamiton’s theory, the article states:
“Hamilton’s rule almost never holds
Inclusive fitness theory often attempts to derive Hamilton’s rule, but finds it increasingly difficult to do so. In a simplified Prisoner’s Dilemma the interaction between cooperators and defectors is described in terms of cost and benefit. For many models we find that cooperators are favoured over defectors for weak selection, if a condition holds that is of the form ‘something’ c/b
This result is a straightforward consequence of the linearity introduced by weak selection and has nothing to do with inclusive fitness considerations.
Inequality is Hamilton’s rule if ‘something’ turns out to be relatedness”..
With this material, one (e.g., me) might be incorrectly prompted to short shrift Hamilton
This comment appeared in entry 'An American Lectures Dr. Lister' on 08/28/14, 04:16 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Outstanding article by Greg Johnson:
Journalists Lie, People Die
Second Thoughts on Foley
My initial reaction to the beheading of American journalist James Foley by Islamic militants was horror and outrage. But then I learned more about Foley’s work, and my feelings changed. As Gregory Hood writes:
[Foley] had a specific agenda with his work–he was trying to expose the “atrocities” of the Assad regime and support the “democracy” movement. Foley may have been a freelancer, but his worldview was eminently predictable and pro-Establishment–trying to break down questions of race, religion, and identity into a game of good egalitarian democrats versus bad reactionaries.
Thus, he was quick to draw critical attention to incidents that the media would call Islamophobic, like when an American military officer made comments critical of Islam during a class on terrorism. He tweeted out articles that we would consider parody, asking if right wing terrorism was as big a threat as Al-Qaeda. And he aggressively, incessantly pushed for NATO intervention in Syria and arming the opposition to Bashar al-Assad . . .
Foley, in short, actively supported the toppling of the Assad regime and the arming of anti-Assad groups — which has led to the deaths of countless innocents — and one of those anti-Assad groups cut off his head.
So there is a God, after all.
ISIS are still savages. They are still the distillation of everything evil and rotten in Islam. They did it for the wrong reasons. But this time, they got it right.
Nearly 200,000 people have died in Syria’s civil war, which never would have happened if the United States were not in the business of bumping off enemies of Israel on the orders of the organized Jewish community which runs this country.
James Foley was not the architect of these policies, but he was more than just a passive supporter. He was not a general, but he was an eager foot soldier in service of the Judeo-American strategy of overthrowing secular nationalist Arab leaders like Saddam Hussein, Muammar el-Qaddafi, and Bashar al-Assad – in the last two cases by giving aid to Islamist militants, including al-Qaeda and ISIS.
There will never be liberal democracy in the Middle East, and supporting groups like al-Qaeda, ISIS, and the Muslim Brotherhood would not promote liberal democracy anyway. The best we can hope for in that part of the world are secular, authoritarian nationalist leaders like Saddam, Qaddafi, and Assad. Such regimes are also better for the freethinkers, women, and religious minorities who are being persecuted by Islamists.
But America’s foreign policy is not determined by American interests, or by Arab interests, but by Jewish interests. Secular Arab regimes are strong and prosperous, and Israel does not like strong and prosperous enemies. Thus they must be smashed. Not to replace them with “democracy,” which is impossible. Simple chaos will do, and simple chaos is what we have.
James Foley probably never shot, tortured, beheaded, buried alive, stoned, or ate the flesh of a Syrian. But by supporting the false narrative justifying the war against Assad, Foley helped make those atrocities — and the widening atrocities in Iraq — possible. He had blood on his hands. So his death satisfies my sense of justice.
It is a pity that more propagandists don’t die. It might encourage more responsible reporting. And, as with all wars, it is a pity that the foot soldiers not the generals take the brunt of the blowback. Because we might live in a better world if the warmongers get a taste of the terror, destruction, and death they inflict on others.
When William Pierce asked “Who Rules America?” his answer was not the president, congress, and judiciary, but the owners of the news and entertainment media. Because the media shape the consciousness and values of the public, they can raise up or cast down any political leader. The media promulgate the ruling orthodoxy, drum up hysteria for its witch hunts and crusades, and expose and destroy dissenters. They are not neutral or innocent or merely exercising “freedom of speech” (which they actively deny to dissenters).
Thus enemy journalists….
...complete article at Counter Currents
However, this confirms the hypothesis that William Pierce is a key influential figure on American White Nationalism.
Which means that any epistemolgical errors of his will be magnified in importance.
And in further confirmation of that influence, Tanstaafl recommends listening to American Dissident Voices (Following in William Pierces legacy)
... “in answer and contrast to Yockey’s critique of Darwinism and evolution, I had intended to discuss a recent episode of American Dissident Voices, William Pierce: Cosmotheism’s Hard Way. So in the meantime I recommend you listen to that episode, and ADV generally.”
In that regard, I must disagree with any general endorsement of American Dissident Voices
William Pierce’s proposed “religion” is apparently scientistic. It apparently fails to distinguish the logics of scientific objectivity from the relative interests of E.G.I. from which it can run counter.
Appalling in more ways than one.
This comment appeared in entry 'It has a voice already.' on 08/28/14, 02:15 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
The Taylor Swift quotes are fake, they originate from 4CHAN/pol/, here: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/
They post them on websites like Tumblr where liberals upvote and share them not realising that the accompanying quote is from Hitler/Mussolini or whoever.
<(DanielS - we can't talk about thread wars tactics here because they are watching. Sorry to be a pain).
This comment appeared in entry 'swift passage' on 08/27/14, 09:42 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
An interview with Salter is sought for MR.
GW is working-out an essay in preparation for the occasion.
Much direction is awaiting that event.
* While an interview with Salter may have been/ may be straight away in the offing, GW has been warned (contrary to your advice, which I believe to be correct, by the way) by a colleague, that he would advise Salter to stay away from Majority Rights. Which I believe is wrong advice, especially given our new platform.
This comment appeared in entry 'Gregory Bateson on Pathology - Context and Relation' on 08/27/14, 05:17 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
So what happened to the MR interviews being set-up and the proposed outreach to Salter?
This comment appeared in entry 'Gregory Bateson on Pathology - Context and Relation' on 08/27/14, 04:42 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Buzz Aldrin greets a “never walked on the moon” conspiracy theorist.
This comment appeared in entry 'A Conspiracy Theory of A Conspiracy Theory to Divert From White Male Dasein' on 08/27/14, 03:59 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Very good scoop, Soren, thank you.
(that shows taste and judgment)
This comment appeared in entry 'the cat and the song' on 08/27/14, 03:34 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
there is no nation in the world immortal
This comment appeared in entry 'The eternal nation in its rural hearth' on 08/27/14, 12:34 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
The no sex before marriage crowds are certainly weak-minded losers but the sexual revolution cannot be blamed for that one, only they themselves can be.
I know there are a whole lot of immature, whinnie emos and sad sacks on this planet but you are taking it to a whole new level.
The answer to the problems you mentioned is not “chaste women”, OP, not some rose-tinted glasses bullshit view.
It is removing systematically removing irrationality and emotional thinking from the legal system, not add more of that.
Women should not automatically get custody of children, except when it comes to breastfeeding, they are not intrinsically superior to men in that aspect cuz of their nurturing instincts, abortion and murder statistics in general prooves otherwise.
They should have no chance at getting childrens custody if they have no reasons for divorce, like a history of abuses or dangerous mental illness.
They should not have the right to their former husband´s house and money, in the case of the latter a notable exception would be if he specifically demanded that she quite her job and lives off him, in which case he is the one who stole her income.
Theft should be a crime, theft of a man´s house and income should be prosecuted as a serious crimes, banning a father from seeing his own children to achieve that theft should be prosecuted as fraud and act of psychological abuse toward both children and their fathers. Jail time.
If a woman gets married to a man whom she divorce the day he have finished paying her 100K student loans, she should be prosecuted for fraud and spend a few years in a work camp.
I.E. applying simple common sense.
Sara Bethany, it does not help when stay-at-home wives complains that their husbands aren´t making enough money to support their life-styles.
This comment appeared in entry 'Men are the losers of the sexual revolution' on 08/27/14, 12:32 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Mick Lately wrote:
Good comments. It seems like damage limitation by the Establishment via the media.
The radical solution to this is to uproot all the Muslim/Third World/Leftist parasite plants.
Mass repatriation and destruction of the whole corrupt New Labour/Common Purpose/Anti-Racist/PC edifice.
I strongly suspect that Gentile Marxists (academia/social work), Common Purpose (local councils), Freemasons (police) are all useful idiots for the Jews. These members, the individual infiltrators, may be considered expendable.
This comment appeared in entry 'Englishmen fight back - and win.' on 08/27/14, 04:52 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
A point to make today:
Our football coaches were not Marxists imposing integration with blacks.
Rather, they were objectivists imposing integration with blacks.
Consider “the great football coach”, Vince Lombardi, and his indignation with regard to “racism.” Vince Lombardi was not a “cultural Marxist.”
Vince Lombardi’s Unprejudiced nature
In 1960, on at least one team, a color barrier still existed in the NFL. But Jack Vainisi, the Scouting Director for the Packers, and Lombardi were determined “to ignore the prejudices then prevalent in most NFL front office in their search for the most talented players.” Lombardi explained his views by saying that he “... viewed his players as neither black nor white, but Packer green”. Among professional football head coaches, Lombardi’s view on discrimination was not de rigueur in the midst of the American civil rights movement.
An interracial relationship between one of the Packer rookies and a young woman was brought to the attention of Lombardi by Packer veterans in his first training camp in Green Bay. The next day at training camp, Lombardi, who had a zero tolerance policy towards racism, responded by warning his team that if any player exhibited prejudice, in any manner, then that player would be thrown off the team. Lombardi, who was vehemently opposed to Jim Crow discrimination, let it be known to all Green Bay establishments that if they did not accommodate his black players equally as well as his white players, then that business would be off-limits to the entire team. Before the start of the 1960 season, he instituted a policy that the Packers would only lodge in places that accepted all his players.
This same paradigm that flouts “equality” would insist on integration of “the best.”
Perhaps because I was never immersed in Marxist/Leftist literature, but rather was repulsed by radicals, their advocacy of non-Whites in particular, repulsed enough to be averse to embracing even its better critiques, I never saw “equality” as an issue one way or another.
But even though it may have had something to do with not circulating among Marxists and immersing in their literature, I never really heard many “leftists” or anybody, for that matter, talking about wanting “equality.”
It has been rightists who are overusing opposition of this term, adopting this paradigm and it is blueprint for disaster - setting matters into false comparison and necessary conflict/dominance-subordination, whereas our concern for separatism is to be negotiated in qualitative terms of differences that make a difference (qualitative non-sameness as opposed to inequality).
Coming back to “the point of the day”, objectivism and its most pointed corollary of turning issues into quantitative comparisons - equality/inequality - is what our football coaches were going by - not cultural Marxism - when they considered it unthinkable that blacks should be kept off the football team and eventually, that the cheerleaders should not cheer them on…and couple with them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDh1QuJ6JPY
This runaway objectivism and flouting of equality is the load of race mixing poison that our right wing brings to the equation. This part of the blame comes from our ranks, not from Jews.
This comment appeared in entry 'Are we to be cannon fodder for war on behalf of White plutocrats?' on 08/27/14, 02:58 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
The morning after. It has already been established how the media are are intending playing this earth tremor.
Columns are awash. It’s the ‘blame game’ on all the heads of the institutions involved, and who have failed to protect these girls. Yes, political correctness has been singled out as an important factor for failure to act, but there is no connection to liberalism or government.
The media is as one on this, deflect the blame onto the useless idiots. The social services and the police, who for years have been infiltrated by the long march. Common Purpose to give it a name.
Cameron and government will join in the chorus, and come out the other side squeaky clean. Same as 7/7, same as Drummer Lee Rigby, same as Anders Breivik (Anders Who?) All buried without trace.
They’ve got it all sewn up. Tight as.
This comment appeared in entry 'Englishmen fight back - and win.' on 08/27/14, 12:09 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Stephen Nieman wrote:
The article is filled with at least as many errors at it purports to expose.
1. The Septuagint is a compendium document provided by Origen in his Hexapla. Circa 250 AD. Not BC as is suggested.
A. The apostles could not have quoted for a compendium document which no record supports. Origen collated a ariety of manuscripts being passed around during his era. It is not known what influences were on these texts. Is it conceivable that the overwhelming influence of gnostic doctrines, ubiquitous during that era were without influence?
B. it is not unreasonable to query whether Origen edited his Greek manuscript to mirror known quotations by the Apostles.
2. The only record of the Greek translation of the Scriptures is supported by the Letter of Aristaeus. Circa 165 BC.
3. The letter clearly states that the Zeus was Jehovah. This can hardly be supposed as a witness to Orthodoxy.
4. The pre-Christian era Jews from the orthodox region of Babylon considered the Torah translation into Greek to be analogous to the raising of the golden calf.
Shall I go on? Your assertion that there was a unity among the rabbinic scholars in their desecration of the Hebrew Scriptures is really your weakest argument.
This comment appeared in entry 'Guns, Lies and Forgeries:A Bible Story' on 08/26/14, 09:55 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
This is just one of many reactions to the mass child abuse scandal report revealed today.
This one is from the Guardian. 26.08.2014
Rotherham abuse report: protection is what matters, not blame
As usual the comments section provides the bellwether of mass opinion.
These Guardian comments are overwhelmingly genuine left or right. Paedophilia reaches parts where others fear to tread. It seems the moderators simply do not know how to respond, they are letting most comments through.
Liberal political correctness is coming under the microscope as never before.
There will be much squirming in high places me-thinks.
It will be most interesting to see how the media respond.
This comment appeared in entry 'Englishmen fight back - and win.' on 08/26/14, 05:27 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
@7 BBC on the rack?
Watching BBC’s evening news the horrific revelation of sexual abuse on young children was the leader.
In recent months similar revelations have surfaced with charges of pedophilia against high profile celebrities, Rolf Harris, Jimmy Saville, Stuart Hall all receiving custodial sentences, mega star Cliff Richard is currently under investigation.
For months the BBC, (media) outcry has outdone all other previous outcries of vilification and accompanying hand wringing, notwithstanding demonic baying for the elixic password sorry!
At the beginning of the 21 st century there are two liberal No-No’s that tower above all else in the liberal calender, and they are racism and child abuse.
A wan looking arch (drip-drip) poisoner extraordinaire Mark Eastern was wheeled in front of the camera to inject more Machiavellian poison into the soporific British viewers psyche, the poor sod was going through hell but his bosses must have insisted he name the culprits. He held his nose and mentioned Pakistanis!
So there we have it, in the blue corner we have racism and over in blue corner we have pedophilia, on which side will the BBC fall or will they fudge the issue as usual.
UKIP’s Farage should drive a horse cart through the aftermath all of this, just in time for next years election.
My conspiracy instinct tells me the BBC is slowly-oh so slowly stoking up British hatred of the stranger - I wonder why?
Let’s take another look at that Pike letter to Mazzini again.
Hundreds of Muslims are leaving Britain to fight with the I-S.
This comment appeared in entry 'Englishmen fight back - and win.' on 08/26/14, 02:58 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
All cultures are equal - innit?
This comment appeared in entry 'Englishmen fight back - and win.' on 08/26/14, 02:02 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Mick Lately wrote:
Will the Establishment admit that they’ve imported these problems?
Will Guardian readers put two and two together and get the correct answer?
The solution is mass repatriation.
This comment appeared in entry 'Englishmen fight back - and win.' on 08/26/14, 11:02 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
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This comment appeared in entry 'Elitism, secrecy, deception … the way to save white America?' on 08/26/14, 08:21 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
“The War Against Whites is Massively Incentivized” - by Kevin MacDonald
MacDonald describes incentivization which has Whites betraying their own ethnic genetic interests with impunity.
First, here is an insightful comment by Ben Tillman regarding this article, in which he itemizes four factors, “four ‘I’s”, that condition White betrayal of White E.G.I. (what the post refers to as “fratricidal tendency”).
August 25, 2014 - 9:16 pm | Permalink
Incentivization is one of the four I’s that induce Whites to work against their collective interests:
Imitation (people imitate successful people, and successful people will be those who respond as hoped to the incentives and intimidation)
And the concluding paragraphs of MacDonald’s essay:
As Frank Salter has pointed out, Whites who fail to attend to the interests of their wider kinship group benefit themselves and their families at the expense of their own ethnic interests. This is especially true for elite Whites—people whose intelligence, power, and wealth could make a very large difference in culture and politics. They are in effect sacrificing millions of ethnic kin for the benefit of themselves and their immediate family.
This is a disastrously wrongheaded choice by all the standard measures of evolutionary success. However, because our evolved psychology is much more attuned to individual and family interests than to the interests of the ethnic group or race, Whites who benefit economically or professionally from adopting conventional views on race and ethnicity are unlikely to feel unease at the psychological level. (This is especially true of Europeans because we are prone to individualism as a result of our evolutionary history.) Indeed, such people are often praised to the skies for having such enlightened views on race that they actively cooperate against their ethnic interests. They go to bed at night quite at peace with themselves.
It’s the same logic with the many non-Jews who are involved with neoconservatism. Being a foot soldier on behalf of Israel is a great career move for media figures, not to mention politicians, and government workers who can expect a soft landing in neocon think tanks and pro-Israel advocacy organizations if the political winds change. The most recent examples are the Republican groveling before Sheldon Adelson and the Republican Jewish Coalition in Las Vegas and Hillary Clinton’s interview with Jeffrey Goldberg where she criticized the Obama administration’s Middle East policies and generally said everything that a neocon could hope for (see (Ed Maloney, “Hillary Clinton’s 11th-hour Diplomacy“).
We have to face the fact that idealistic motives don’t work with most people, or at least they can be easily trumped by more tangible rewards. Whites who are financially benefiting from the displacement of their people are not psychologically open to arguments about the dire consequences to America and to people like themselves if things continue like this for another generation or two. They are primed to believe the mantras about diversity as strength and easily persuaded that pessimism about the future is just another manifestation of White racism.
They are not only financially rewarded, they also reap psychological rewards that come raining down from the elite media and from their many complicit friends and colleagues. For so many Whites, the pro-diversity, anti-White policies are seen as morally praiseworthy, thus tapping into a very potent source of motivation for Whites (see above link). They can do well by doing good.
This is a tough combination to go up against. We have to hope that racially conscious Whites will eventually create an infrastructure that begins to match the multicultural, anti-White infrastructure that is already in place. The money is certainly there and the situation on the ground can only convince more and more Whites that Rep. Mo Brooks is right — that there is indeed a war against them.
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Phil Arps wrote:
Soren Renner, thanks for directing me to Majorityrights.
This comment appeared in entry 'swift passage' on 08/25/14, 04:05 PM. (go to entry to post a reply)
You think Richards opinion is that of a serious thinker Van Spyke? You have shown your hand in what you consider to be true “intellectualism.” “Pseudo” implies an irrelevance or pretense which simply is not an accurate characterization of the advocacy of native European interests here.
If you want pseudo, go with Richards and Haller.
Oh, I see, VanSpyke, you are that Austrian school Jesus freak. No wonder you are dissatisfied with the direction here..Weren’t you going to start a Catholic site with Haller?
We might also note that Van Spyke is coming from the same neighborhood as Thorn - in no position to proclaim what is “worthless” as his agenda is adversarial to the well being of Majority Rights.
This comment appeared in entry 'African-Americans go shopping in Ferguson, Missouri' on 08/25/14, 11:43 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Yes, J Richards, Daniels comments and entries are worthless. You couldn’t have chosen a better word to describe his boring ass shit.
After reading about three of DanielS insufferably tedious entries, I realized I wasted my time—not to mention I lost several IQ points exposing myself to his toxic pseudo intellectualism.
If MR was ever a repository for serious WN thinkers, it isn’t anymore. Thanks in large part to the presence here of the thing that calls itself DanielS.
This comment appeared in entry 'African-Americans go shopping in Ferguson, Missouri' on 08/25/14, 11:19 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Taylor Swift is a secret protégé of Soren Renner?
I’m looking forward to her publically pronouncing: “Billions will die; we will win!” Preferably at the MTV Awards.
Let it be so….
This comment appeared in entry 'swift passage' on 08/25/14, 11:09 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Posted by Leon on August 25, 2014, 07:09 AM | #
“I will be back when I write my last piece, as promised to GW.”
As GW said, it Will be your last statement here.
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I will be back when I write my last piece, as promised to GW.
Note: if I edited this site, I would increase its readership and influence astronomically beyond what either JRichards or DanielS (or rankly GW) ever could.
And I’m not Jewish. I’m a born and Baptized Catholic, not a drop of Semitic blood in me.
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you should continue this subject in another page from the 1001st post
This comment appeared in entry 'The Indian/Chinese IQ puzzle' on 08/24/14, 11:09 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
Richards, Since your comment is so long, I will build the response a piece at a time - i.e., this comment will grow bigger from these first few sentences.
First, there is nothing more retarded than your conspiracy theories.
Second, I stopped trusting you when you posted one of those stupid conspiracy theories (one about photo shopped images of Arabs, having big arms added or some such mess), just four hours after my “Leftism as a code word” essay was posted.
That was/is an important essay that I suspect you were trying to distract from…
Next, you say:
DON’T edit my posts.”
GW has told me that he is looking to transfer ownership of the site to me. Because of attacks on me, I was forced prematurely to act authoritatively in that regard. Nevertheless, my editorial prerogative takes priority over yours; particularly it will, when it becomes official.
“Your justification for moving two images from the front page is retarded.”
Not.You have no taste and your will to distract from balanced thinking is evident.
“You apparently did it because the images supposedly detracted from the “thoughtful and sincere discourse” for which you have the website primed.”
“Let’s look at your own entry on the Ferguson rioting two entries back. Your title about police displaying a new level of force is misleading. Militarized police is routinely used to intimidate Americans: http://policestateusa.com/”
It is not misleading, The Police had not been using armored vehicles with mounted guns, etc. Irrespective of that, it is not my intent to mislead, but people are free to render comments such as, “it’s nothing new”, if that’s what they think.
Next, you say:
“You ask, “What does this [militarized police] implicate for separatists from centralized government?” As if this isn’t obvious.”
What to do about it is not obvious and more to the point.
“You even ask, ‘And what will it take for White separatism to wake up to take form and force of its own?” This is supposed to encourage thoughtful discussion!”
Yes, it should.
“White separatists are awake”
Obviously not in critical, organized - coordinated mass.
“but they have no means to match the firepower of the government, have to deal with infiltration and multiple controlled opposition groups for any genuine one, and face persecution for false flag operations conducted by Jews.”
Well, discussion of how to deal with these sorts of problems is the point.
“Besides, confronting the government is missing the point. The world is run by a shadow elite that rules by proxy; it’s this elite, not the proxy that’s the target.”
Now who is stating the obvious? viz. that the governments are administrative units of greater powers
“Uncovering this elite makes delving into conspiracies inevitable, but you don’t want to deal with “conspiracy bullshit” or do you?”
Not conspiracy bullshit, no (the kind of stuff that McGowan traffics in), Boston Marathon “hoax”, Connecticut shooting “hoax” etc.
The prime litmus test of a conspiracy theory must be whether or not it is necessary.
Next you say:
“In your entry on Dave McGowan, you critique him for omitting the Jewish angle.”
Yes, that is one glaring omission by McGowan.
“So apparently there’s a Jewish conspiracy out there, and if you won’t allow conspiracies at your site, lead by example and excuse yourself from MR for violating your own wishes.”
Well, there are conspiracies by Jews and plutocrats (I don’t deny much of the standard Rothschild narrative), some discussion is admissible, provided it stays relevant (is it necessary) but arguments to the effect that they are merely acting in their ethnic genetic interests are probably even more instructive as to the way things work regarding power.
“In other examples I believe you recall some conspiracies on the part of National Socialists that you’ve espoused. So excuse yourself from MR.”
Absolutely not. I can’t even say “nice try!”
Where did I propose a conspiracy theory on behalf of National Socialists? Not that they would not conspire of course, it is just that I am not particularly interested in such theories - again, would it be useful? I think not.
Oh, now I remember what you are probably talking about. It became necessary/ useful to consider something like that When looking at the way some Nazis would like to build rapport with Russia to do something like carving up the land in between, something like Molotov Ribbentrop again. Whether a “conspiracy” or “just what they would do”, it is a wish coming from their view that would have them catering even to the absurd philosophy of Dugin - yeah, I do think there is something to that. It is not good and it is the opposite of an occasion to step aside.
It is not necessarily a conspiracy so much as Nazis just being Naizis - Poland’s existence as a sovereign entity is something of an obstruction; “Barbarossa and Dunkirk were mistakes, but invading Poland was not a mistake.” etc.
Next you say (and I have answered this)
“Like a bunch of hypocrites out there, you have no problems with the conspiracies you endorse, but scream “conspiracies” when you encounter the ones you don’t like. Why don’t you try to explain why the police has been increasingly militarized [along with the related phenomena of worsening police brutality, overcriminalization, and massive surveillance] without invoking conspiracies?”
If a conspiracy theory is useful and necessary, not diversionary when obvious facts are at hand, it is admissible. That is the litmus test.
For your next argument, oh my god what bullshit:
“Your criticism of McGowan comes from someone who failed Logic 101: if McGowan is allegedly wrong about one small part of his argument on the Laurel Canyon scene, then it sheds doubts on his argument on an unrelated issue, namely the Boston Marathon bombings.”
He shows a clear pattern in all his writing, a pattern which discredits him as a source. His theory about Boston might be less absurd than his Laurel Canyon stuff, but is it really necessary to consider at length? Obviously not.
“McGowan has a fact-rich argument about the Laurel Canyon scene”
He employs some facts and it is a fun read but a mostly ridiculous theory.
“you can’t hope to criticize it or use it to evaluate his thoroughness”
He says there was no organic motive to the hippies (it was all a prefab conspiracy)?
How about not wanting to be drafted?
No, the hippies were there to make the anti war effort look bad to conservative Americans - can you imagine a more stupid theory? Not that they did not want to be drafted to die and kill Viet Namese for tire rubber and other corporate interests.
“unless you show that he has many important facts wrong”
For another, he says “For What its Worth?” was the only war protest song and it wasn’t even a war protest song. However, “Feel like I’m Fixin’ to Die Rag” (a war protest song which he doesn’t mention) was the signature moment of Woodstock.
“and that the correct facts lead to a significantly different picture”.
He says there was no evidence of a gun wielded by Meredith Hunter at Altamont when the picture and film shows it plain as day.
Not only does he leave Jewish workings out, but he portrays blacks as passive victims throughout this LC series.
You want a conspiracy theory? I gave you one - I think McGowan was hypnotized and given the suggestion to blame hippies and military industrial complex behind them (i.e. White men) to distract from Jewish power and influence, and also from blacks.
But Richards goes on..
“You just focused on whether a murdered victim was holding a handgun.”
That he would be oblivious to the obvious is a clue that he may be operating under post hypnotic suggestion.
I don’t only focus on that, but it is glaring.
“McGowan had a detailed discussion on chain of command issues regarding the video footage, and he raised the possibility of doctoring of the footage.”
And its bullshit. I suppose Jagger was involved as he watched the stabbing incident.
Honestly, do we even have to discuss such nonsense? Where was Jagger in the chain of command?
“For a man wearing a green coat, the forearm of the jacket is black on the arm holding the alleged gun, an oddity.”
“Anyway, a long while back I cited a large number of links showing that the Boston marathon bombings were a hoax. At that time you didn’t discuss any alleged facts, just as you don’t do now, but prefer to use pejoratives and ad hominem.A fine “thoughtful and sincere discourse”-type approach! “
As I have said, my criteria for discussing conspiracy is its utility. There are only so many hours in a day, days in a life.
“And why haven’t you done anything about Søren Renner’s posts after mine, one with a heading and no content”
Well, I do see the metacommunicative value in title without content, even if I don’t know if “It has a voice already” is the best message there. I worry that Soren, like a a lot of American and British WN, may have the perspective not of the eleventh hour but that it is “entirely too late”. In line with that, perhaps he favors facilitating the big kill-off with the idea that some high iq. computer nerds will survive and take themsleves to outer space.
Hence, Swiftly moving past Bateson’s advice, as if it has sufficient voice already.
Having voiced that skepticism, I do believe that Soren (and Bowery and Jimmy Marr) sincerely care about their people even if their context and perspective is perhaps more desperate than it should be - i.e., our people deserve holistic advocacy with the benefit of the doubt.
“and the other a large picture of Taylor Swift, entries that serve no purpose other than to bury something [guess what?] “beneath a mound of nonsense? I suppose Renner’s posts are very useful to thoughtful discussion.”
Yes, I have entered a critical comment, but still trust Soren as more sincere than you, even if I think he might be a bit off (e.g., too sympathetic to NS Germany).
Soren may have mistaken me for a pacifist or one advocating that men be soft with quotes I added such as “the irresponsible bullying of Naven rites of passage produced harsh, over compensating males.”
But that’s not it. I am advocating a balanced and processual approach to problems of our survival, turning over our problems and needs (even if turning to Jews more frequently), which means being men in a way that is authentically European and fighting from a balanced position, not head long chasing the red cape of Jews.
“You seem to have taken as a compliment a comment that the blog now seems to be yours.”
It is not necessarily a compliment at all. It can be dangerous (for me as well) but it is an important responsibility as there are niches that MR needs to fill.
“The commenter is a member of the hook-nosed community whose compliment should be a cause to weep.”
Who are you talking about? Haller?
He is not welcome at MR. He has been an obstruction right along.
“On the other hand, he wasn’t complimenting you.”
When has he ever?
“He was lamenting that his trolling services are no longer required”
Talk about stating the obvious.
“because of the worthlessness of your posts”
I don’t think so.
“and so he decided to stay away”
He didn’t decide to stay away, he was firmly asked to take his opinions elsewhere.
“but he’ll be back should a need to troll arise.”
I’m sure he’d be back if he could and his comments will be treated as such.
“Message: I’m not editing your posts; you don’t edit mine.”
Especially whereas it becomes my site officially, I will do with your future proposed posts as I see fit (I will leave extant ones alone). Until then, I will exercise editorial prerogative unless GW objects.
This comment appeared in entry 'African-Americans go shopping in Ferguson, Missouri' on 08/24/14, 04:14 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
I notice whereas Andrew Anglin (Daily Stormer) placed pro-HH slogans over the same lady (Taylor Swift).
Taylor is cute, no doubt, and typical right-winger Andrew likes to say that is all about the genes; but when looking at Slavic women, suddenly “they look good as compared to Western European women because they walk with their shoulders back.”
Of course Slavic nations have this sort of beauty among their women in abundance. However, maybe when you are one sun-tan away from being confused with someone from the other side of the Mediterranean it seems necessary to overcompensate..
While I’m being critical of overcompensating HH-heads, I caught Dana Antiochus’s interview of “Iranians for Aryans.” Not far-off in terms of good will in coordinating native European interests, but both still showing this overcompensation that does not show enough respect for the integrity of inter-European relations.
Now, I’ve given Dana a hard time about being one quarter Syrian not because I don’t think that some of that is admissible, but because I do see a pattern where he has been a bit loose about the border between Europe, Africa and Asia, sloppy about the danger in dignifying and providing pseudo justifications for inter European war (not concerned enough with the core of Europeans) on the basis of HH’s half-assed concepts; the Syrian genes kick-in again with an “Anything” to get the Jews disposition, which might excuse 55 million European dead, looking upon it not as the result of poorly conceived lines by HH, but because poor HH was misunderstood. Dana goes on to say to Iranian, “I still think Hitler’s big mistake was Barbarossa” (Not that he shouldn’t have been attacking any sovereign European nations, or that he was an obnoxious supremacist, a dishonest, war mongering creep).
Iranian for Aryans replies that he still would side with Hitler (invoking the false either/or that WN is having trouble weening itself off of). I didn’t mind that Iranian for Aryans made use of the meme that I’ve advised, viz. that we defend Europeans with an argument, for example, that we defend them as we would a rain forest. What does bother me is that Iranian is yet another apologist, invited through and showing Dana’s bias to couple that sort of better argument with HH’s supremacism and inter-European war mongering. Iranian for Aryans talks about Poland and other Slavic nations as if he has a clue. To “exemplify” the nature of Poles he cites the fight of hooligans after the football match between Poland and Russia two summers ago. He says that “Poles broke bottles and slit the throats of Russians. These people are killing each other and they have got to get over that.”
Might we have the truth now? 8 people were hospitalized over night as a result of drunken hooligans fighting one another.
We are talking about some hooligans, an incredibly small fraction of the population whom Iranian for Aryans would characterize as ombudsmen for Poles and Russians.
The minority of people who even watched the match treated it proportionately for what it was – a game. Naturally, most of Poland had other priorities than the match. Even if you were in Warsaw at the time, you would observe most people oblivious to the consequences of the match, going about their business. That is the reality.
Now then, coming back to Taylor Swift. Yes, she is cute.
In my family I have all eye and hair colors, blond, red and brunette. I value all European beauty but it frankly took me a while to warm-up to the blond + blue eyes + small nose + big boob combination because it had been so pushed in American media as THE female beauty as to be didactic (for me). That can create a void between that look and some dynamic and striking features which Europeans have (even if under represented in some places, such as The US) - if not appreciated, that void can be moved into by non Europeans, nature abhorring a void and all. In fact, the observant see many qualitative White women undervalued and sucked into the black hole of miscegenation.
I do like Taylor’s look, of course. But I also like other kinds of European beauty. I had a girlfriend who was nearly flat chested, and it was beautiful - very erotic. Then I had a girlfriend who had large boobs (jutting out of nowhere, she was slender) - quite nice too; that got me over exclusive preference in regard to boobs. At bottom, not so unconsciously, I was looking for those White women who would hold up to Africans. In addition to being recessive, blonds, if looked upon as the exclusive beauty, created too much of a titillating contrast to non-Whites, which if over emphasized would invoke the “corrective” inclinations of overcoming the void between. Things like big noses and dynamic features such as high cheek bones and an extended chin would appeal as overly exotic by contrast to the subtlety of this type held up as a paragon – which, by the way, except for hair, skin and eye color, can be assimilated as well by Eastern Africans as one commentator recently noted.
Now, we all know that there are behavioral differences at bottom which obviously are more of the essence, whether non Whites assimilate White appearance or not. Though not as fragile as I might have thought, blonds still need protection and appreciation, no doubt. Nevertheless, we ought not continue the crass media trend of over-focus on only one type of European beauty lest we create that void for non-Whites to move into.
As a result of my first girlfriend, I still have a soft spot for small breasted women (infinitely better than fake boobs) –
And I still also like women with biggish noses, striking contrast of dark hair and very White skin; along with dynamic features such as high cheek bones and extended chin. Sofia Coppola might not be the best example, a bit too marginal as examples of Whites might go, her lips perhaps a bit too thick, but I still like her.
This comment appeared in entry 'swift passage' on 08/24/14, 03:23 AM. (go to entry to post a reply)
J Richards wrote:
Updates have been added to the post, the most interesting one of which links to investigative efforts suggesting that the Michael Brown said to have been shot by a Ferguson police officer has been made up using a stolen identity.
DON’T edit my posts.
Your justification for moving two images from the front page is retarded. You apparently did it because the images supposedly detracted from the “thoughtful and sincere discourse” for which you have the website primed. Let’s look at your own entry on the Ferguson rioting two entries back. Your title about police displaying a new level of force is misleading. Militarized police is routinely used to intimidate Americans: http://policestateusa.com/
You ask, “What does this [militarized police] implicate for separatists from centralized government?” As if this isn’t obvious. You even ask, “And what will it take for White separatism to wake up to take form and force of its own?” This is supposed to encourage thoughtful discussion! White separatists are awake, but they have no means to match the firepower of the government, have to deal with infiltration and multiple controlled opposition groups for any genuine one, and face persecution for false flag operations conducted by Jews. Besides, confronting the government is missing the point. The world is run by a shadow elite that rules by proxy; it’s this elite, not the proxy that’s the target. Uncovering this elite makes delving into conspiracies inevitable, but you don’t want to deal with “conspiracy bullshit” or do you?
In your entry on Dave McGowan, you critique him for omitting the Jewish angle. So apparently there’s a Jewish conspiracy out there, and if you won’t allow conspiracies at your site, lead by example and excuse yourself from MR for violating your own wishes. In other examples I believe you recall some conspiracies on the part of National Socialists that you’ve espoused. So excuse yourself from MR.
Like a bunch of hypocrites out there, you have no problems with the conspiracies you endorse, but scream “conspiracies” when you encounter the ones you don’t like. Why don’t you try to explain why the police has been increasingly militarized [along with the related phenomena of worsening police brutality, overcriminalization, and massive surveillance] without invoking conspiracies?
Your criticism of McGowan comes from someone who failed Logic 101: if McGowan is allegedly wrong about one small part of his argument on the Laurel Canyon scene, then it sheds doubts on his argument on an unrelated issue, namely the Boston Marathon bombings. McGowan has a fact-rich argument about the Laurel Canyon scene; you can’t hope to criticize it or use it to evaluate his thoroughness unless you show that he has many important facts wrong and that the correct facts lead to a significantly different picture. You just focused on whether a murdered victim was holding a handgun. McGowan had a detailed discussion on chain of command issues regarding the video footage, and he raised the possibility of doctoring of the footage. For a man wearing a green coat, the forearm of the jacket is black on the arm holding the alleged gun, an oddity. Anyway, a long while back I cited a large number of links showing that the Boston marathon bombings were a hoax. At that time you didn’t discuss any alleged facts, just as you don’t do now, but prefer to use pejoratives and ad hominem. A fine “thoughtful and sincere discourse”-type approach!
And why haven’t you done anything about Søren Renner’s posts after mine, one with a heading and no content, and the other a large picture of Taylor Swift, entries that serve no purpose other than to bury something [guess what?] beneath a mound of nonsense? I suppose Renner’s posts are very useful to thoughtful discussion.
You seem to have taken as a compliment a comment that the blog now seems to be yours. The commenter is a member of the hook-nosed community whose compliment should be a cause to weep. On the other hand, he wasn’t complimenting you. He was lamenting that his trolling services are no longer required because of the worthlessness of your posts, and so he decided to stay away, but he’ll be back should a need to troll arise.
Message: I’m not editing your posts; you don’t edit mine.
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