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A Conspiracy Theory of A Conspiracy Theory to Divert From White Male Dasein Conspiracy theorist David McGowan shows the signs of post-hypnotic suggestion in order to get him to do something: to distract from the crucial White male motive of the Viet Nam era – Dasein.
This motive was more than legitimate and it is still vital to reclaim to this day. Had the “hippies” been more articulate it would have been called midt-dasein - there being amidst the class. As this conspiracy of conspiracy theory goes, the powers that be want so badly to cover that motive that they’ve got McGowan working under post-hypnotic suggestion to spin a 20 some-odd part saga about how the hippies were a complete CIA operation from top to bottom. For those who want to believe that Jim Morrison was a CIA agent instead of a spoiled, drunken kid, feel free to indulge in McGowan’s narrative. You will also find many hide-bound traditional men and women looking to find the hippies an easy excuse for everything that has gone wrong. That would appeal to these kinds who are ready to have you go to war for any excuse that Israel can give – they are unwittingly participating in a diversion from Jewish and oligarch culpability and from the legitimacy and importance of the White male motive of the time. What suggests that there could actually have been a conspiracy to get this guy to render this conspiracy theory? Let’s focus on one salient example: Look at his discussion of the Altamont incident, when during the Rolling Stones performance, Hunter Meredith was stabbed to death by a Hell’s Angel:
“Many of the accounts of the tragedy at Altamont include the demonstrably false claim that Hunter can unmistakably be seen drawing a gun just before being jumped and killed by the Angels (some accounts even have Hunter firing the alleged gun). The relevant frames from the film are included here for your review. What can certainly be fairly clearly seen is the large knife being brought down into Hunter’s back. But a gun being brandished by Mr. Hunter? If you can see one, then you either have far better eyes than I, or a far more active imagination. Or both.” The fascinating thing is, you can clearly see the gun in Hunter Meredith’s hand.
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr106.html
If you go through his articles you will see him point to hidden “racist” motives, such as the “tragic” killing of Meredith Hunter, who “did not really have a gun.” Never does he suggest Jewish underhandedness anywhere in his essays. He claims there was no organic motive for the men of the time, asserting that war protest was not even prominent in the songs of the era: “For What it’s Worth?” he says, “was the biggest protest song and it was about riots surrounding the closing of a music bar, Pandora’s Box, not about Viet Nam at all.” McGowan conveniently overlooks one of Woodstock’s signature moments: Feel Like I’m Fixin’ To Die Rag*: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HVACPv_KFw Gentlemen, this is not about making pacifists of us, but about fighting for the right thing, our people, and valuing ourselves enough to do that – ourselves as men as well – our being, specifically our there-being amidst the class of Europeans. It is about warranting our midtdasein, particularly for White men - a most crucial feature of our ontology.
* Naturally, that there was a draft during the Viet Nam war makes a big difference in organic motivation against it for White men, despite the fact that this song, encouraging its defiance, was written by the all too kosher Country Joe and the Fish. Comments:2
Posted by Joe on Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:39 | # “Dasein” still sounds like a Japanese sushi restaurant to me. 3
Posted by n/a on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 01:41 | # “Never does he suggest Jewish underhandedness anywhere in his essays. He claims there was no organic motive for the men of the time [. . .] McGowan conveniently overlooks one of Woodstock’s signature moments: Feel Like I’m Fixin’ To Die Rag:”
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Posted by DanielS on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 01:55 | # I knew that. Most of his band was Jewish as well. That song is ok, though. 5
Posted by DanielS on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 02:00 | # Nor again does McGowan discuss any Jewish underhanded influence on the times. 6
Posted by Jon on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:51 | # Some song lyrics of that time, like those of Are You Going to San Francisco, for example, don’t ring true as organic to me. Look, the hippie movement was partly organic and partly steered (from Tavistock, Frankfurt School remnants, Stanford Research Institute, et. al.) and nurtured and protected carefully from its nascent forms in the 50s on by the media. McGowan emphasises the (considerable) steered portion of it and certainly considering his epic undertaking, is bound to get part of it wrong. But here are reasons to fail to mention the Jewish role in the movement that have nothing to do with misdirection. Though McGowan does overstate his case and makes some tenuous connexions, he certainly gets much of it right. Much of hippie sensibilities was profound destructive (e. g., free love (that we can in large part lay the blame for our now abysmal birth rates), racial integration and harmony ideals)—absolute poison for us. Perhaps most so was the (partly installed, partly organic) cultural rift between older and younger generations. 7
Posted by DanielS on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 08:16 | # Posted by Jon on April 23, 2013, 02:51 AM | # Some song lyrics of that time, like those of Are You Going to San Francisco, for example, don’t ring true as organic to me. Look, the hippie movement was partly organic and partly steered (from Tavistock, Frankfurt School remnants, Stanford Research Institute, et. al.) and nurtured and protected carefully from its nascent forms in the 50s on by the media. I have acknowledged (in previous essays) that it was partly steered, partly manipulated and all but entirely pushed aside by Jewish interests by the war’s end. I am trying not to be too repetitious and to keep these entries as short as possible. McGowan emphasises the (considerable) steered portion of it and certainly considering his epic undertaking, is bound to get part of it wrong. And he did. He got the most important aspect wrong.
Sure, he couldn’t make any money that way. Though McGowan does overstate his case and makes some tenuous connexions, he certainly gets much of it right. While it is a fun read, and he does manage to expose the rock stars of the era to be jerks, no surprise there, with consistently right wing military parents (that is a little surprise, but that these were children of the powerful..not really a surprise by and large), he does not get it nearly right enough. Much of hippie sensibilities was profound destructive (e. g., free love (that we can in large part lay the blame for our now abysmal birth rates), Again, I have discussed this in several places. “Free Love” was not an organic part of White male Dasein. For males that could only create the anxiety of a free for all regarding the women of their long co-evolution. No, free love was an affectation furtively engrafted onto hippies and feminists by the Frankfurt school, as you say, Herbert Marcuse in particular being one of the larger culprits. A White male hippie wants free love? Maybe a few would not be laughed at. Women saying they want free love? It can matter. The girls were being pandered to with “free love” by the Frankfurt school.
Again, a Jewish imposition. Black civil rights was an awkward imposition at best, if not incommensurate, as in the case of black power.
That was a bad thing yes - that was Frankfurt School trying to defy the “authoritarian personality” But again, that was a Jewish affectation, not the authentic motive, which was an organic response to withdrawal, against the Viet Nam draft.
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Posted by Jon on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 08:33 | # The Vietnam War and its “opposition” were steered by the same people. It had nothing to do with fighting Communism but rather was meant deliberately to kill off/incapacitate some White men and produce a cultural fault line between war opposers and patriotards whilst generating revenue for defence contractors and drug runners as a side benefit. CIA asset Jane Fonda’s antics were anything but naive (she is too smart not to know how bad for PR what she did was) but rather calculated to produce rift between working class and war protester. If the official line about what they were fighting were true, she should have been tried for treason. 9
Posted by DanielS on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:18 | # Posted by Jon on April 23, 2013, 03:33 AM | # The Vietnam War and its “opposition” were steered by the same people. They may have steered it to the best of their abilities, but try to tell us that not wanting to be drafted to go and die in Viet Nam was Not an organic White male concern.
That was their motive, not the organic motive of White men, who were in line to be denied their being.
In hers and Tom Hayden’s case, it would not bother me. Their treason to White men is true enough. 10
Posted by Hymie in Afula on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 03:21 | # WN thought, from where you didn’t expect it:
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Posted by Joe on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 03:45 | # @ Hymie in Afula, Israel—the race-mixer : I see you took some time off from fucking/race-mixing/banging/miscegenating with your “Asian hottie immigrant guest worker”. What attracted you to the “Heartiste” website ? : The article about ““poon”: Me so hornee, me love afula izzysmells jew hymie jew, me want to race-mix and fucke-fuckee with afula izzysmells jew hymie jew : Is that what your “Asian hottie immigrant guest worker” says to you when she so hornee? I don’t think a die-hard Jew Zionist such as you are—and a Jew Zionist race-mixer, too boot—knows, or even cares for that matter, what’s best for the White Race. Go back to race-mixing/banging your “Asian poon”. How’s your poon “guest worker’s” cooking? How’s the gefilte-fish-egg-foo-yong she cooks up for you? Ummm, yummy, gefilte-fish-egg-foo-yong. 12
Posted by Joe on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:44 | # How Dasein—even so-called “conservative” Dasein—serves the Jew Zionist New World Order : “Black Terror, White Soldiers : Islam, Fascism, and the New Age ” by David Livinstone : http://uploads.empire-newmedia.com/BTWS_preview_1.pdf Search Term : ” Sufism + Sabbatean Jews + Dasein” Dasein comes to us from Medieval Sufism via Sabbatean/Donmeh Jews/Freemasons/Satanists ; Dasein is about undermining the West, undermining and weakening the White Race for the Zionist New World Order. Dasein has brought the White Race nothing but massive internecine war, destruction of Morality, the break-down of family life, the break-down of all of our cultural institutions, massive drug addiction, massive apathy, abortion, promiscuity, the acceptance of homosexuality as being equal to heterosexuality, massive and collective scorn for our Western heritage, culture, history, and spiritual patrimony.
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Posted by Joe on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:14 | # More about Dasein—Dasein being leftist at the very core, at the very foundation, Dasein being anti-Christ at the very core, at the very foundation ; Even so-called “conservative” Dasein is leftist-to-the-core and Anti-Christ to-the-core ; More about Dasein and the Jew New World Order : http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2013/04/jewish-communist-brain-washing.html 14
Posted by Joe on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:46 | # More info about Hymie-in-Afula, Israel : Hymie is so proud of being a Jew—Hymie is a die-hard, intense Zionist—Hymie is so proud of being a Jew, Hymie loves his Jewish people—yet Hymie doesn’t have sex with his fellow Jewish women : Hymie the Jew Zionist—so proud of being Jewish—has sex with Asian women. This Hymie then thinks he can tell us White Men how we should behave, how we should think, yet Hymie himself suffers from severe Cognitive Dissonance. To be so proud of one’s people—as Hymie says he is—but turn your back on your own women and have sex with women from other races is called Cognitive Dissonance, and it’s called miscegenation. Hymie encourages us White Men to race-mix as he pretends to be about what’s best for the White Race. More about Hymie-in-Afula, Israel, the die-hard intense Jew Zionist Jew ; http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/jews/schizo.htm Search Terms : ” Jews Schizophrenia Virus” ” Jews and Schizophrenia” I thank my Christian God I’m not a Jew. No one has to be a Jew, not really. Not even you, Hymie-in-Afula, the proud and boastful Jew, so proud of your Jewish people, but you don’t even have sex with your fellow Jewish women ; Hymie-in-Israel, so proud of being a Jew—but he turns his back on Jewish women, doesn’t have sex with Jewish women, just Asian poon ; No one—not even Hymie—has to be a Jew, especially as so many Jews—similar to Hymie-in-Afula—suffer from schizophrenia ; http://www.israelelect.com/reference/Willie-Martin/ I thank my Christian God I don’t suffer from Cognitive Dissonance, especially Cognitive Dissonance unto schizophrenia as Hymie most certainly suffers, as so many Jews suffer, The word “suffer” means “to allow”. I won’t allow it. I refuse to allow it. Thank God ; The Light of Christ cuts through Cognitive Dissonance, the Light of Christ cures Cognitive Dissonance, even unto schizophrenia.
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Posted by Joe on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:55 | # “Spirit Water Blood” website [.com]. A website about our culture, heritage, and spiritual patrimony. Much better than listening to Hymie. Learn a lot more about the culture, heritage, and history of the White Race. Spirit Water Blood. 16
Posted by Joe on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:46 | # The cultural revolution of the 1960’s was Jew to-the-core : http://mailstar.net/new-left.html The cultural revolution of the 1960’s served Jewish interests—and Jewish interests only—NOT the interests of the White Race. The cultural revolution was, at the ontological foundation,existentialist, as well as the metaphysics and the eschatology, existentialist : Existentialism is Jew to-the-core. Dasein serves Jew interests, NOT the interests of the White Race. 17
Posted by Jon on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:55 | # Daniel: They may have steered it to the best of their abilities, but try to tell us that not wanting to be drafted to go and die in Viet Nam was Not an organic White male concern. I should think from my entire post that you’d take as my position from what I wrote that those behind the war so well as those steering the opposition were/are evil (beyond comprehension). My belief that a major objective of the planners of the Vietnam War was to use it as a cultural and political wedge—in concert with the “opposition” at high levels does not contradict your statement. Vietnam, like Iraq I and II, Afghanistan, Libya, et. al. are obviously tragedies. In a just world those behind them should have their “Dasein” terminated. Daniel:In hers and Tom Hayden’s case, it would not bother me. Their treason to White men is true enough. Yes, of course. But my point was that in the context of the official version of the objectives of Vietnam—if those behind it had been really “fighting Communism”, what she did amounted to treason. 18
Posted by DanielS on Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:20 | # Daniel: They may have steered it to the best of their abilities, but try to tell us that not wanting to be drafted to go and die in Viet Nam was Not an organic White male concern. I should think from my entire post that you’d take as my position from what I wrote that those behind the war so well as those steering the opposition were/are evil (beyond comprehension). I wasn’t thinking in those terms - “evil beyond comprehension” - but.. My belief that a major objective of the planners of the Vietnam War was to use it as a cultural and political wedge—in concert with the “opposition” at high levels does not contradict your statement. OK
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Posted by DanielS on Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:35 | # But whether protest against the draft was deliberately instigated or not, the basic motive behind protest was authentic and important - continues to be; and perhaps the greatest part of the corruption was/is its obfuscation. 20
Posted by Joe on Thu, 25 Apr 2013 22:28 | # If the white Daseins hippies* in the 1960’s were so concerned about White America, how come they never protested the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965 ? The immigration act that opened the USA up to the whole third world. The Immigration Act that opened up our borders. The white Dasein hippies—supposedly, according to some, who were so concerned about their fellow whites, yet never protested the Hart-Celler Immigration Act. How come the white Dasein hippies who were supposedly so concerned for their White Race, how come they never protested abortion, or promiscuity [ “free sex” ] or homosexuality [ gay rights ] or drugs ? The white Dasein hippies did NOT protest any of these things ; Quite the opposite, the white Dasein hippies actively supported and pushed to make all the above integral features of our “white” culture. As far as Vietnam is concerned : Yes, the war was based on bullshit. Still, there were fellow Americans [ mostly white overwhelmingly] there fighting hard. The white Dasein hippies greatly emboldened the enemy. In fact, the American GI’s won every major battle in Vietnam. We lost because the enemy clearly saw that if they hold out a little longer, the Americans themselves [ In other words, Dasein hippies ] would undermine the American war effort. That’s exactly what happened. In addition to undermining the war effort, and causing even more losses of blood for White America [ to a degree the Dasein hippies are responsible for the loss of white American blood as the Dasein hippies emboldened the enemy with their anti-war protests ], the Dasein hippies were here in the States “doing your “own thing”. The thing about “doing our own thing” is that the Dasein hippies actively supported and pushed to make abortion, promiscuity, drugs, gay rights, and the leftist political/social/cultural agenda ascendant in the USA. Even the so-called “conservative” Daseinites are on the left of the political/social/cultural agenda. One can’t have/ or work and strive for, a philosophy/religion which is on the left side of the cultural spectrum—or support a leftist cultural/social agenda—and then expect the world of politics to remain “conservative”. That’s not how the real world works. The root of the word “culture” is “cult”. Culture is based at the very foundation by the religious beliefs of a people as a collective whole. If the collective religious beliefs [ “cult” ] of a people are based on an ontology of existentialism, “do your own thing”, we’re our very own “gods”, the politics of the country/nation is going to reflect the very same exact existentialism. One can’t push existentialism on a culture, and win, as the Daseins won the “cultural revolution” of the 1960’s— as our Western culture is now based on Dasein to one degree or another— and then expect the culture to remain “conservative”. There’s nothing “conservative” about Dasein : It’s as leftist as can be at the very foundation—at the very ontological level, including so-called “conservative” Dasein. The best one can say about the white Dasein hippies of the 1960’s is that they were confused. One can’t truly say the white Dasein hippies had the best interests of the White Race at-heart, as the white Dasein hippies pushed a very destructive agenda on America. It should be very clear by now in hindsight—after about 55 years of seeing first-hand the effects of the white Dasein “cultural revolution” of the 1960’s. The best one can say about the white Dasein hippies is that they were confused. The “cultural revolution” was especially destructive as it came about 20 years after the White Race suffered it’s most destructive internecine-genocidal war in all of history. The greatest loss of White blood in the history of our race. 20 years after the war ; WW2 = the greatest loss of blood in the history of the White Race—> the white Dasein hippies and their “do your own thing” destroyed family life, and subsequently the birth-rates of whites plunged—birth-rates plunged—more loss of Blood and Spirit for the White Race, following on the heels of the most destructive and bloodiest internecine-genocidal war in the history of the Race. * No old, tired, confused, Cognitive Dissonant, lame & played-out Dasein hippies got beat-up or were harmed in any way while I typed out and sent off this post to Majority Rights.
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Posted by DanielS on Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:21 | # Who heard of The Hart Celler Act in 1965, retard Joe? We are looking forward to agony in your tired, played out, ugly old face. Who promoted The Hart-Celler Act but the typical, Catholic, murdering, lying, “do his own thing”, tired, cognitively dissonant, spoiled, sexually promiscuous Ted Kennedy. The impervious, spamming dog that is Joe, does not listen. Who was doing their own thing? Hm? He has been instructed on this matter several times but simply ignores to put across his Jewish disease of Christianity. We will defeat you Joe, because we must defeat you, filthy disease. Agony will come to your disgusting face and it will be the true god’s triumph.
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Posted by DanielS on Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:29 | # As Joe goes about its impervious business of trying to deny us the capacity to think by spamming and jamming threads with his bullshit, he would expect 18 year olds in 1967 to have the knowledge of Kevin MacDonald, and condemn them where they did not. Joe is now going to pretend that he is on the side of youth, he is not. He is on the side of the hopelessly infirm and the dead - so it shall remain. 23
Posted by Joe on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 01:13 | # @ DanielS I knew about Hart-Celler Immigration Act even before it was signed into law, and I was 9 years old in 1965, so there’s really no excuse. I was appalled when the bill was signed into law. Again, I was 9 years old. If I knew about the Hart-Celler Immigration Act at 9 years old, how come the white Dasein hippies all across the USA, on all the college campuses cross the country, for example, didn’t know about it? The bill wasn’t passed in stealth. Hart Celler was widely publicized in all the newspapers, magazines, and on the TV news before it became law, while it was being debated in the court of public opinion. You rightfully point your finger at Senator Ted Kennedy, but Ted Kennedy alone didn’t pass the law all by himself. Hart-Celler passed the Senate 76-18. If you wish to blame Catholicism—if you wish to blame all the Catholics in the US—for Hart Celler because Ted Kennedy was a Catholic, then we’ll just have to blame all the Jews the US for Hart Celler as well, as the Jewish law-makers supported Hart Celler passionately. We’ll also have to blame all the Protestant Christians in the US because the Protestant Christian law-makers, overwhelmingly, voted for Hart Celler along with the Jews and the Catholics who voted for Hart Celler. Also, as President Johnson was the president who signed the law—without veto or any kind of reluctance —I guess we’ll have to blame all the Texans in America for Hart Celler also, as President Johnson was a Texan. More about Hart-Celler : http://www.cis.org/NYT_immigration_coverage Hart-Celler from a so-called “conservative” Dasein viewpoint, though NO Daseins—either liberal or so-called “conservative” Daseins ever protested Hart Celler : http://www.theneworder.org/news/2012/11/jews-sponsored-anti-white-immigration-act-of-1965/ It’s not true that I “don’t listen”. I very much do “listen”—that’s why I’m opposed, because I “listen”, then I think about what I’m hearing, and subsequently come to my conclusions. In addition, I always back up my opinions with solid source references. If my posts in opposition to Dasein “deny” you “the capacity to think”, your thinking—your Dasein—is on shaky grounds indeed, to say the very least. You come across opposition and you feel as if your “capacity to think” is “denied” you. That’s the thinking/ “feelings ” /philosophy of a 3 year old. I never “denied” anyone here at Majority Rights—or anywhere else for that matter—I never “denied” anyone anywhere ” the capacity to think” : What an absurd reply to my post. I notice you overlooked all the other points I made about the Dasein hippies of the 1960’s. I would like to debate you on the other points I made about the Dasien hippies of the 1960’s, that is, if your “capacity to think” is not totally destroyed by now. Dasein can easily do that to a person, reduce and even totally block “the capacity to think”.
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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 02:19 | # osted by Joe on April 25, 2013, 08:13 PM | # @ DanielS I knew about Hart-Celler Immigration Act even before it was signed into law, and I was 9 years old in 1965, so there’s really no excuse. I was appalled when the bill was signed into law. Joe, asshole. It is so regrettable that you are here spamming and jamming the threads to make noise and disrupt what could be thoughtful conversations among the threads. You were aware perhaps because you were paying attention to your fellow lying boy Ted Kennedy.
As typical of your crypto Jew motivations, you want to blame White males, “Dasein hippies.” Neither did you see the “White Dasein Hippes” creating the law and protesting that it should be enforced.
To whatever extent they knew about it, it was neither their doing, they were not protesting on its behalf either. I imagine that they saw the draft as their more immanent priority.
Right, with the assistance of his fellow Jews and Christians of the Senate. If you wish to blame Catholicism—if you wish to blame all the Catholics in the US—for Hart Celler because Ted Kennedy was a Catholic, then we’ll just have to blame all the Jews the US for Hart Celler as well, as the Jewish law-makers supported Hart Celler passionately. We do and have dick head.
We do blame them as well, dick head. Also, as President Johnson was the president who signed the law—without veto or any kind of reluctance —I guess we’ll have to blame all the Texans in America for Hart Celler also, as President Johnson was a Texan. President Johnson has long had my vote for worst President ever.
http://www.cis.org/NYT_immigration_coverage Hart-Celler from a so-called “conservative” Dasein viewpoint, though NO Daseins—either liberal or There is no such entity as a “conservative Daseinist” - it is a stupid term that you’ve conjured up to try to hang on people with sense enough not to believe in Christianity.
It’s not true that I “don’t listen”. I very much do “listen”—that’s why I’m opposed, because I “listen”, then I think about what I’m hearing, and subsequently come to my conclusions. In addition, I always back up my opinions with solid source references. It is absolutely true that you do not listen. You are impervious. Your opinions are backed by shit. Like a hysterical woman clinging to Christianity, you will do anything to disrupt conversation that reveals it to be the evil lie that it is.
You would try to deny us the capacity to think together Joe, asshole, by disrupting the threads with profusions of spam and jamming them with diversionary nonsense in order to bludgeon conversation and infect it with your evil JudeoChristin disease You come across opposition and you feel as if your “capacity to think” is “denied” you. That’s the thinking/ “feelings ” /philosophy of a 3 year old. No, Joe, that is a projection. You are a child in an old man’s body. You can’t stand that people do not want to pay attention to your bullshit.
You have obstructed our capacity to think together by spamming the threads with disinformational traffic.
You have destroyed nothing, but partly what would have been useful conversations in a few threads. You are not capable of debating because you will just post Christian conspiracy theory like a Jewish banshee. JOE, I DO NOT WANT TO TALK TO YOU. FOR THE SAME REASON THAT TANSTAAFL DOES NOT WANT TO TALK TO YOU - YOU ARE RETARDED AND IMPERVIOUS. IF I COULD, I WOULD CERTAINLY BAN YOU FROM COMMENTING AS WELL Dasein can easily do that to a person, reduce and even totally block “the capacity to think”. You have disrupted the capacity to think together to some extent Joe; of course it cannot last long, but you can disrupt some otherwise useful conversations. It is as if I’d like to have a conversation or rather, put on a performance of say, Mozart. And the piece of dog shit Joe, comes in there with some blaring and obnoxious instrument and starts playing some mess as he would like it to go. Joe, I don’t want to talk about Christianity. I don’t want to talk do you. I’ve seen what you have to say. It’s worse than worthless, it is disinformation.
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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:33 | # I would like to add that I have said here and in all other instances that I have discussed the issue, that the essential motive of the time for White males - dasein - was correct. I add, had they been more articulate, it would have been midt-dasein: Being and there-Being logically entails defending borders of the class, as well as a more fair and balanced moral order to include non-Christian sacrament. While I defend the essential hippie motive, I have consistently maintained that they were Not articulate enough about politics or any academic subject.
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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:20 | # It is a motive, midtdasein, viz. there-being amidst the class that Joe, in its hysterical Jewish female spirit will do anything to obfuscate, vilify and destroy. It will do anything to keep you from having this. It does not want White males to have there being let alone being amidst their folk. It wants to destroy your being, your existence is repulsive to it - it wants to replace your being with the false religion of Christianity, worship of the Jew, in its servitude unto your eternal death. 27
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:27 | # It is a motive for White men, midt-dasein, viz, there-being amidst the class that Joe, in its Jewish female virulence, will do anything in its power to destroy, to obfuscate, to vilify. It will do anything to prevent White men to have being, from existing, let along being amidst their folk. It’s parasitic motive is singular - to destroy that most precious motive and affix the false worship of Christianity, the worship of the Jew to its eternal servitude unto your eternal death. 28
Posted by Joe on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:55 | # @ DanielS If the Dasein hippies “were Not articulate enough about politics or any academic subject” how can you be so sure they had the best interest of the white race at-heart if you don’t even know what the Dasein hippies were truly thinking as the Dasein hippies—even you admit it—” were Not articulate enough about politics or any academic subject” ? In other words, the Dasein hippies didn’t even know what they we’re doing, not truly—Not if they “were Not articulate enough about politics or any academic subject”. We can only guess at the motives of the Dasein hippies, as the Dasein hippies themselves “were NOT articulate enough…” to tell us themselves. If one does something and can’t explain what one’s doing in an articulate manner, it means such a person doesn’t truly knows what he’s doing, not if he’s incapable of explaining why he’s doing it, what he thinks his actions are going to lead to, what the result of his efforts are going to be. In hindsight we can see clearly the leftist agenda of the 1960’s Dasein hippies was a complete disaster for family life. The Dasein hippie agenda undermined Morality,undermined family life, undermined sense of home and community, undermined sense of place, undermined a sense of roots and heritage and history. The Americans at the time who could see clearly the Dasein hippie agenda was/is a disaster for family life were pushed aside with great scorn and disdain by the Dasein hippies. The white Dasein hippies had nothing but scorn and disdain for those conservative Americans who pointed out—rightfully—that the Dasein hippie movement was a disaster for family life as the Dasein leftist agenda undermined Morality big-time ; Undermine Morality, you undermine family life—the two can’t be separated ; Undermine family life, the birth-rates plunge : Part of the silent genocide of the White Race : The Dasein hippie agenda is part of the silent genocide of the White Race as it destroys family life, subsequently birth-rates plunge. You mention the law-makers during the time of Hart Celler of 1965 as if they voted somehow based on the ontology of Christianity. Their motivations were Dasein-based ; Dasein is—and was in the 60’s also—the ruling philosophy of the West, NOT Christianity. The white race, collectively, threw Christianity in the thrash heap some time in the 19 th century. Only the outer shell remained. What little remained of Christianity after existentialism, dialectic materialism, surrealism—all the late 19th century and all the 20th century philosophies, are all based on Dasein to one degree or another—and two extremely devastating internecine-genocidal wars—what little remained of Christianity was rejected in the 1960’s : The few vestiges of Christianity that remained up to the Sixties was rejected en-masse during the Dasein “cultural revolution”. The motivations of the Hart Celler law-makers was Dasein—NOT Christianity. The Americans who were opposed to Hart-Celler were conservative Christians. The Dasein hippies had nothing but disdain and scorn for conservative Christians, yet, it was the conservative Christians opposed to Hart Celler, no other group—especially Not Daseins. It was conservative Christians who were opposed to opening the country up to the whole third world, while the Dasein hippies were too busy “doing your own thing” to care ; Indeed, they “were NOT articulate enough about politics or any academic subject”. Even you say so, and you’re a Dasein yourself. So what good are Dasein hippies if they can’t even articulate their motivations, if they can’t articulate their thinking, their motivations, their behavior, their goals ? I mention “conservative” Dasein in my posts because I got that from you. You’re the one who mentioned that there’s such a thing as “conservative” Dasein ; In one of your posts you mentioned “conservative Dasein” : You’re the one who first mentioned “conservative Dasein”. I always respectfully disagreed with that. Now you tell me, “there is no such thing as a “conservative” Daseinite”. Well, I knew that all along. Hence, all my posts in rebuttal to your original claim that there was such a thing as “conservative Dasein”. I see my common sense posts, backed up with solid source references, are finally making you see some light. About Dasein undermining Family Life, undermining sense of place, undermining sense of community, undermining sense of home ; On Dasein and home-lessness. On Heidegger’s Dasein home-less-ness : http://www.denversroadhome.org/files/chapter 4.pdf Link doesn’t work. Its supposed to be .../files/chapter 4.pdf Or, Search Term : ” Dasein Hippies And The Destruction Of Western Culture” Will access ” DenversRoadHome”. Page 2 of Google Selections; Good search term to learn more about the baneful effects of Dasein on Morality, the baneful effects of Dasein on Family Life, and the subsequent plunge in the birth-rate due to the devastation Dasein has wrought on Family Life : Dasein being part of the silent genocide of the White Race. What Exactly—in plain normal straight-forward English—does “midt- dasein ” mean, and what Exactly does “non-Christian sacrament” mean? What “sacraments” Exactly do the Daseinites have to hallow their days on this earth, what “sacraments” do Daseins have in honor of their families, what “sacraments” do Daseins have to hallow their children, their elderly, their parents, their culture ? What “sacraments” do Daseinites have in honor of their Dasein “religion” ? What “sacraments” Exactly does the Dasein ‘“religion” have to hallow anything about any aspect of life? 29
Posted by Joe on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:09 | # @ DanielS You may consider re-configuring Majority Right’s computer system. Your computer system doesn’t accept links with percentage marks. [ % ]. Any link I try to post with [% ] percentage mark in the address won’t catch. http://www.denversroadhome.org/files/chapter “percentage mark” 204.pdf 30
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:31 | # INCOG MAN - anti-Semitic propagandist extraordinaire. He skillfully makes the connection between the Jewish inspired ideology of radical liberalism and the predictable consequences thereof: the hippie culture. Scroll down to The Nation Wreckers 31
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:21 | # Posted by Thorn on April 26, 2013, 07:31 AM | # INCOG MAN - anti-Semitic propagandist extraordinaire. He skillfully makes the connection between the Jewish inspired ideology of radical liberalism and the predictable consequences thereof: the hippie culture. Scroll down to The Nation Wreckers http://incogman.net/my-videos/ First let’s put aside the idiot that is Thorn. We are talking about the importance of midtdasein as a motive, not hippie culture, nor your mentally retarded religion or anything else. Thorn, you are a moron.
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Posted by DanielS. on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:24 | # And the distraction from it as a motive by pieces of shit like you and Joe. 33
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:36 | # DanielS, you are a weirdo; an oddball to the nth degree. On your best day, you amount to a societal misfit. Seriously. You are an embarrassment to the WN cause. Please leave. 34
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:04 | # Posted by Joe on April 26, 2013, 06:55 AM | # @ DanielS If the Dasein hippies “were Not articulate enough about politics or any academic subject” how can you be so sure they had the best interest of the white race at-heart if you don’t even know what the Dasein hippies were truly thinking as the Dasein hippies—even you admit it—” were Not articulate enough about politics or any academic subject” ? Joe asshole, I am sure that they did not want to be drafted to go to Viet Nam to die; they were articulate enough to know that and that was in their interests and the interests of Whites at the same time.
The “Dasein hippies”...is that your version of “secular humanist”? Idiot Joe, they knew enough to not want to be drafted want and go to Viet Nam to die.
Hell no they wouldn’t go!
Hell no they we wouldn’t go and we won’t go to serve Joe’s Catholic religion, the religion of the Brown people, the religion of exponential population growth and mass immigration!
MidtDasein does the opposite of what you are saying. It is about there being amidst your people, your family.
Luke 14:26
It is time for you to die, Joe. Undermine Morality, you undermine family life—the two can’t be separated ; Undermine family life, the birth-rates plunge : Part of the silent genocide of the White Race : The Dasein hippie agenda is part of the silent genocide of the White Race as it destroys family life, subsequently birth-rates plunge. Your corporate/Isreal wars are nothing more than late term abortions.
Luke 14:26
They voted on the basis of Judeo Christianity not on anything like what you call “dasein based” LOL.
No, Christianity threw the White race into the trash. Only the outer shell remained. What little remained of Christianity after existentialism, dialectic materialism, surrealism—all the late 19th century and all the 20th century philosophies, are all based on Dasein to one degree or another—and two extremely devastating internecine-genocidal wars—what little remained of Christianity was rejected in the 1960’s : The few vestiges of Christianity that remained up to the Sixties was rejected en-masse during the Dasein “cultural revolution”.
The motivations of the Hart Celler law-makers was Dasein—NOT Christianity. The Americans who were opposed to Hart-Celler were conservative Christians. The senate and celler were talking about Dasein LOL! There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. The Dasein hippies had nothing but disdain and scorn for conservative Christians, yet, it was the conservative Christians opposed to Hart Celler, no other group—especially Not Daseins. Dasein Hippies? The first I ever heard of the “term”. Obviously you are boning-up to try to put one over on groups of stupid people with a new conspiracy theory. Thorn will be in attendance.
I said the hippies were not articulate enough of Politics, that does not mean that they should not have a right to exist and there was no where where they were interested let alone intent upon opening the borders. Jews were interested in that, yes. And you “conveniently” downplay that fact to blame hippies instead. Nor were ‘conservatives’ or Christians worth a damn. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Being is a stigmatic motive for White males to begin (though it should not be) and does not correspond to elaborate eloquence, not quickly anyway, by its organic motive. Nevertheless, it was most important and took great courage. I’ve explained these things but you just ignore them.
I don’t think that I put conservative dasein together ever. You are looking for terms to apply to your retarded conspiracy theory consumers. Daseinists for you, is like ‘secular humanists” was for Jerry Falwell and the Christian Zionists. I always respectfully disagreed with that. Now you tell me, “there is no such thing as a “conservative” Daseinite”. Well, I knew that all along. Let me correct that, there can be such a thing as a conservative “Daseinite”. There is no such term Only in so much as you try to peddle your Christian zionist poison to stupid people in the form of a conspiracy theory Hence, all my posts in rebuttal to your original claim that there was such a thing as “conservative Dasein”. No. There is no such term. Like the opportunistic disease that you are, you are just looking for any way in, could be a typo, could be a momentary oversight, that’s you, a disease. I see my common sense posts, backed up with solid source references, are finally making you see some light. You see nothing but the Jewish Christian disease that you wish to inflict upon people you old piece of dog shit.
On Dasein and home-lessness. On Heidegger’s Dasein home-less-ness : http://www.denversroadhome.org/files/chapter 4.pdf Link doesn’t work. Its supposed to be .../files/chapter 4.pdf Or, Search Term : ” Dasein Hippies And The Destruction Of Western Culture” Will access ” DenversRoadHome”. Page 2 of Google Selections; NO thanks!
It has been explained to you five million times already dick head, it is as plain as day. What “sacraments” Exactly do the Daseinites have to hallow their days on this earth, what “sacraments” do Daseins have in honor of their families, what “sacraments” do Daseins have to hallow their children, their elderly, their parents, their culture ? What “sacraments” do Daseinites have in honor of their Dasein “religion” ? What “sacraments” Exactly does the Dasein ‘“religion” have to hallow anything about any aspect of life? Joe, asshole, if you are determined to re enact Christianity, you are free to do it; please go. Sacramental practice was here before Christianity and it will be here long after your ruse is dead and buried. Posted by Joe on April 26, 2013, 07:09 AM | # @ DanielS You may consider re-configuring Majority Right’s computer system. Your computer system doesn’t accept links with percentage marks. [ % ]. Any link I try to post with [% ] percentage mark in the address won’t catch. http://www.denversroadhome.org/files/chapter “percentage mark” 204.pdf
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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:13 | # Posted by Thorn on April 26, 2013, 08:36 AM | # DanielS, you are a weirdo; an oddball to the nth degree. On your best day, you amount to a societal misfit. Seriously. You are an embarrassment to the WN cause. Please leave.
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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:38 | # Corrected typos from post 34 above Idiot Joe, they knew enough to not want to be drafted and go to Viet Nam to die. I said the hippies were not articulate enough of politics and academic matters, that does not mean that their fundamental motive was inaccurate, that they should not have a right to exist; nor was it the case that they were interested to open the borders let alone responsible and intent upon doing so. 37
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:40 | # Sorry DanielS, but it is obvious to any objective observer you are projecting. Your recounting of the hippie era is crap due to the fact you are viewing it through a bias therefore distorted lens. Your attempt at history revisionism is a failure. Hippies were NOT motivated by midt-dasein; not in the least. Hippies were motivated by a wide range of attractions—most of which were hedonistic and nihilistic. Again, you are projecting, DanielS. Sex, drugs, and rock and roll baby! “Turn on, tune in, drop out”—Timothy Leary 38
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:53 | # Posted by Thorn on April 26, 2013, 09:40 AM | # Sorry DanielS, but it is obvious to any objective observer you are projecting. Bullhit
How many times do I have to tell you, I am focused on the motive the time, not on hippies nor the things that people like you would try to attribute to them as essential. Your attempt at history revisionism is a failure. It is not an attempt, nor a failure, it is an accurate uncovering of what was the case. Hippies were NOT motivated by midt-dasein; not in the least. No, they really wanted to go to Viet Nam to die LOL. Thorn, it is you who should die, you fucking greaser.
Wrong Thorn, the motive of Dasein was what it was. Whether inarticulate of the fact, it was a facet of ontology that White men of the time moved toward, needed and a facet of ontology that White men still need. Sex, drugs, and rock and roll baby! That was popular terminology. It was not the important motive. Did you ever see a movie called “Breakfast At Tiffanies”? That was well before the hippie era and it would be hard to find sentiments more corruptly motivated than those. Timothy Leary was not a good man. That does not mean that going to war in Viet Nam to die was a good idea. Kill yourself Thorn, the world would be better off for it. 39
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:20 | # Now Now Danny. Must I send you to your room for some quiet time? The only thing that needs to be “killed” around here is your silly ideas. WRT the 60s era: in retrospect no sane person today would condemn the Anti Vietnam War protesters. (Note: most of the protesters were NOT hippies per se.) 40
Posted by Joe on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:30 | # @ DanielS I Never blamed the Dasein hippies because they’re hite—I never blamed them as qua Whites, I blame them as qua Dasein hippies : “MidtDasein” hippies and all other kinds of Daseinites. All Daseinites are into “do your own thing” as Dasein is based on leftist ontology/metaphysics/eschatology. The eschatology of Dasein is Darwinian Evolution. Dasein comes from Medieval Islamic Sufism originally, and was brought to Europe by Sabbatean Jews [ sabbatean = satanic ]. Dasein is also based on Darwinian Evolution. Darwinian Evolution is a type of Sufism itself. At the very foundation of Dasein is the belief we originate from apes and gorillas in Africa. Dasein totally rejects a Holy Creator. I don’t know about you, Daniel S, but there’s nothing about me to suggest a feral nigger in the jungle. Are you descendant from the tutzi-tutzi tribe of feral niggers in Africa, or the feral nigger Hottentots, or the feral nigger Zulus, or the feral hotzi-totzi niggers ? Daseinites think they originated as apes and monkeys, yet somehow through the evolutionary process, they going to turn into “gods” someday. It’s a hoot. As long as the Daseinites continue to “do your own thing” they’re going to turn into “gods”. “Do your own thing” is the ticket to Mars and beyond the stars—ad astra !!!—It’s the ticket to Godhood itself. Dasein sounds more like the Chink snake-oil-salesman Reverend Sun Myung Moon’s Unification Church, and the Missouri snake-oil-salesman L Ron Hubbard’s Scientology Church than any kind of religion indigenous to the White Race. The fact is : Dasein is NOT indigenous to the White Race. Dasein comes to us from Medieval Sufism by the way of Satanic Sabbatean/Donmeh Jews. That’s the Exact reason Dasein is so existentialist, so rejecting of a Holy Creator, so scornful of Redemption, so disdainful and full of scorn for the Gift of Salvation from the Holy Creator Himself, so full of hatred for Christ, so indifferent and full of apathy for the Authentic culture and heritage of White Europe. And yes, Christianity, in a sense, is a “brown” religion now. But it’s not inherently a “brown” religion. It’s a “brown” religion now because the White Race, collectively, rejected Her Spiritual Patrimony. Hence, the plunging birth-rate of the White Race today. It’s a “brown” religion now because Daseinites control the churches—both the Catholic and the Protestant churches are ruled by Daseinites. Daseinites have controlled the churches from at least the beginning of the 20th century. Christianity is the True indigenous Faith of White Europe. The White Race is the Christ-Bearing Race ; Unfortunately, a great tragedy, a tragedy of biblical proportions, the White Race, collectively, rejects the Greatest Gift bestowed upon us by the Holy Creator—the very thing, the very Faith, that made the White Race the best Race in the very first place, true Christianity : http://cambriawillnotyield.wordpress.com/ The following Search Term will access more information : ” Cambria Will Not Yield + The White Race Christ-Bearing Race” “Spirit Water Blood” website also speaks about The White Race, the Christ-Bearing Race, and the richness of our true Spiritual Patrimony. “Incogman” knows what he’s talking about as the Existentialist/ Daseinite “Cultural Revolution” of the 1960’s was Jew commie to-the-core. “MidtDasein” doesn’t have the Spiritual Power to defeat Jew/Talmudic Communism, only true Christianity has the power to defeat Jew Talmudic Communism : The true Christians in the Jew/Talmudic Communist Soviet Union defeated Jew Communism. Dasein—even so-called “Midt Dasein”—not only Can’t defeat Jew Communism, Dasein actually serves the Jew/Zionist/Communist agenda. I notice the Jew anti-war leaders of the 1960’s—they were supposedly so full of “peace love and understanding” , so opposed to war—NEVER said a damn thing to protest the Jew/Israeli 1967 war. In fact, the Jew anti-war leaders actively supported the Jew war, while here in the States the very same Jew “anti-war” leaders undermined the US war effort in Vietnam, greatly emboldening the enemy, and causing even more death for the US GI’s.
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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:23 | # Via MoonBattery.com Topless Degenerates Assault Archbishop Here [ http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archbishop-prays-while-topless-gay-activists-shout-curses-and-douse-him-wit ] is how far the willful decline of Western Civilization from the apex of human achievement down to the suffocating bowels of hell has progressed in Brussels:
That is, he recommended that people not indulge in unhealthy and immoral acts of sexual depravity. In this day and age, that makes him a thought criminal.
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Posted by Joe on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:21 | # It’s all good dudes ‘cause the Dasein girlzzz in Brussels are performing a “sacred” Dasein “non-Christian sacrament” ; And like it would be soooo wrong to criticize the Dasein girlzzz, ‘cause were all on our own unique spiritual path ; We’re all on our own unique and special path on the evolutionary spiral to perfection : On our very own unique paths to becoming our own gods—how awesome is that Dasein dudes ? Who is to judge what’s right and what’s wrong, we’re all on our own special and unique paths to perfection. Only Christians make judgments, and making judgements is like sooo wrong dudes. About Dasein, Existentialism, Morbidity, Nihilistic Religions, Nihilistic philosophies, Nihilistic Lifestyles, the Dasein “Cultural Revolution” of the 1960’s, Dasein Hippies : From a non-Christian viewpoint [ though the viewpoint mirrors that of true old-fashioned Christianity to a very large degree ]. I mention that as a warning to those Daseinites who simply can’t bear to hear any kind of Christian message and/or any kind of common-sense, whatever the source ; About the Dasein Cultural Revolution of the 1960’s, keep in mind as you read this that Existentialism and Dasein are one-and-the same phenomena : http://therealexplanation.org/article/MALICE_BLUNDER.html What branch/denomination of the Dasein “church” do the Dasein girlzzz in Brussels represent? “Midt Dasein”, or otherwise some other kind of Dasein? If the Brussel girlzzz are not practicing “Midt-Dasein”, how does the Dasein the Brussel Dasein chickzzz are practicing differ ontologically and eschatologically from “Midt-Dasein” ?
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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:40 | # Ok so we can see that the bottom line is abundantly clear with Thorn, Joe and Haller: These are some sort of philo-semites or crypto-Jews who take what they believe to be a high minded Jewish perspective: e.g., Laurence Auster, Illana Mercer, Gilad Atzmon and with their encouragement, try to blame White men; even more egregiously they try to attack their middasein and impose absurd and obfuscating conspiracy theories in lieu; then affix their ultimate philosemitic disease - Christianity, so that you will be subservient to the Jew unto eternal death. 44
Posted by Joe on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:44 | # Doesn’t matter how much one tries to “spin” Dasein to try to turn Dasein into a White Race “religion”. Dasein is at the very foundation—at the very core—Dasein is existentialist, and hence nihilistic. Dasein serves the Jew Commie agenda. About Dasein, Existentialism, the immense role of Communist Jews in the “Cultural Revolution” of the 1960’s ; The “Cultural Revolution” that greatly undermined Christian Morality, Family Life ; the “Revolution” that caused White birth-rates to plunge : The “Revolution” which was/is part of the Silent Genocide of the White Race, comes to us—at the very source—from Communist Jews : http://mailstar.net/new-left.html
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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:04 | # Posted by Joe on April 26, 2013, 01:44 PM | # Doesn’t matter how much one tries to “spin” Dasein to try to turn Dasein into a White Race “religion”. Dasein is at the very foundation—at the very core—Dasein is existentialist, and hence nihilistic. Dasein serves the Jew Commie agenda. Bullshit you fucking Jew.
It is not White men who did not want to go to Viet Nam who undermine family life, but Jews and philosemitic Christians like you, Joe: Luke 14:26
http://mailstar.net/new-left.html And people like you, Jews for Jesus and the Catholic church of brown people.
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Posted by Graham_Lister on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:21 | # Oh my God women have tits. Who knew? I guess the most offensive aspect for the good priest was that the naked flesh on show was not the virgin arse of say a five year old child - fresh meat that he and his buddies could ‘enjoy’ as they rape the child. As reported by Boswell, Hume famously observed that religion and rascals went hand in hand: “He [Hume] then said flatly that the morality of every religion was bad, and, I really thought, was not jocular when he said that when he heard a man was religious, he concluded he was a rascal, though he had known some instances of very good men being religious.” It’s hard to not be in sympathy with Hume on this topic: “I have written on all sorts of subjects . . . yet I have no enemies; except indeed all the Whigs, all the Tories, and all the Christians.” So Joe (and his like-minded friends) take your benighted personalities and your ‘essential’ Voodoo - which is grotesquely offensive to reason, evidence, philosophy, science, morality and ethics - and stick it where the sun doesn’t shine. Stop claiming natural human phenomena such as love, kindness, moral conduct etc., as being ‘owned’ by your imaginary friend in the sky. Sadly I doubt such emotional and intellectual infants can manage to live without the crutch of their brand of magical thinking but most mature, reflective and semi-intelligent people can do without it. Thanks, but no thanks, boys. Now don’t you Voodoo types all have some deliciously transubstantiated meatballs to eat from the man in dress that does magic on behalf of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Blessed be his tomato ragu! I’ll happily remain an ‘inauthentic’ European whilst you all get on worshipping your very Jewish cult hero. A genuinely reflective, thoughtful, intellectually and psychologically honest theist is about as rare as rocking horse shit. 48
Posted by Joe on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:51 | # @Graham Lister Surely, you’re not going to argue that the Dasein girlzzz in Brussels are doing the White Race any favors by promoting lesbianism and homosexuality ,and attacking anyone who speaks up Morality and for common-sense ? That Catholic priest who is being attacked by the Dasein girlzzz —that Catholic priest you hate so much—is speaking up on behalf of the Genetic Heritage of the White Race. Heterosexuality safeguards and continues into the future the Genetic Heritage of the White Race—NOT lesbianism and Not homosexuality. If the Dasein girlzz are so concerned for the White Race, why are they so vigorously pushing the lesbian/homosexual agenda on the White Race? If the Dasein girls are so concerned about the White Race, how come they’re attacking a priest trying to safeguard the genetic heritage of the White Race, why don’t the Dasein girlzz attack a pedophile homosexual priest? The homosexual pedophile priests in the Church today causing so much corruption, are Daseinites, by the way, not true Christians. The priest speaking up on behalf of Morality and heterosexuality is a true Christian. You say you’re on the side of Whites, yet you support the Dasein girlzz in Brussels viciously attacking a man—a true Catholic/Christian—trying to safeguard the Genetic Heritage of the White Race : The very same Daseinite girlzz are promoting lesbianism and homosexuality ; In other words, the Daseinites are promoting Genetic Suicide : More “silent genocide” for the White Race. ” Bella Dodd + The Communist Takeover of the Catholic Church” ” Maurice Pinay + The Plot Against The Church pdf ” ” Vatican Threatened With Nuclear attack During 1958 Papal Conclave” Now that Daseinites control the Church from within, and are causing so much corruption, the Daseinites from outside of he Church point to the corruption as if the corruption reflects true Christianity, when—in-point-of-fact—it is Daseinites in the Church responsible for the pedophilia scandals. The pedophilia scandals in the Church are homosexual in nature, Exactly what the Daseinites in Brussels are promoting : Homosexuality. Yet, you support the Daseinite girls, and yet you claim to be about what’s best for the White Race. I don’t buy what your selling, Graham Lister. You’re full-of-shit.
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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:20 | # Whoever is allowing Joe to comment here, it is a disservice. He is just going to deluge every thread with this childish bullshit. It cannot simply be ignored, he is cheapening and obfuscating discussion. As he comments here, conversation gets diverted onto his bullshit and away from better considerations.
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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:23 | # DanielS Why don’t you stop trying to be MR’s blog cop. It’s not appreciated by anyone; and moreover, you’re certainly not qualified for the job. Besides the only childish behavior here is YOU acting like those crazed lesbians I linked to @41. You invariably go into hysterical tantrum mode everytime Christianity is refered in a positive light. The same goes for Graham in that regard. GROW UP! 51
Posted by DanielS on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:55 | # Posted by Thorn on April 26, 2013, 05:23 PM | # DanielS Why don’t you stop trying to be MR’s blog cop. why don’t I stop? Fuck you dip shit, that was my first request to be rid of an obvious nuisance. It’s not appreciated by anyone; You don’t speak for anyone normal. and moreover, you’re certainly not qualified for the job. I certainly am qualified to cite the nuisance of Joe’s spam - and your solicitation of it, for that matter. Your bad motives are clear by now, Thornblossom.
Forget it it Thorn, you are a liar. Your only purpose here is to force people to hear Christian sermons. There is no tantrum, there is a need to be rid of your imposition.
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Posted by Joe on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:04 | # Communists fomented the Anti-War Movement of the 1960’s , as well as all the other so-called “Liberation” movements of the 1960’s ; About the SDS—“Students for a Democratic Society”—the SDS took the lead in fomenting Anti-War protests : http://www.conservapedia.com/Students_for_a_Democratic_Society
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Posted by DanielS on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:10 | # Even if communists fomented the anti war movement, it was still correct for White men to not want to be drafted into that war. Whoever is allowing Joe to comment here, it is a disservice. He is just going to deluge every thread with this childish bullshit. It cannot simply be ignored, he is cheapening and obfuscating discussion. As he comments here, conversation gets diverted onto his bullshit and away from better considerations. 54
Posted by Graham_Lister on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:32 | # @Joe You’re an obnoxious piece of shit. An asinine and ignorant buffoon and tirelessly tedious with it too. You couldn’t fucking ‘debate’ me (or anyone) if your little snivelling life depended on it. All you do is spam thread with non-stop links to endless bullshit and conspiracy theory crap. You’re the repulsive, unkempt, ‘nutter’ ranting away on the subway or bus that everyone wishes to avoid, not because of your devastating argumentation, but because you’re obviously some combination of the mad, bad and sad. Now you might want to look at MR’s archives. I debated a former administrator and ‘big shot’ of MR called J. Richards on his never-ending love affair with conspiracies. So what did I do? Well I didn’t read and refute every single piece of ‘evidence’ this creep put forward for his conspiracies. Instead I went into enormous detail as to why conspiracism represent a parody of critical thinking, why it failed due to it being unfalsifiable dogma masquerading as scepticism, and why its only believed by intellectually and emotionally inadequate sad-sacks. Now you Joe come along as Richards redux. You offer endless links to ‘arguments’ and so called ‘evidence’. Now should the reasonable person, using their judgemental rationality think “yes that fellow Joe seems very reasonable I should invest considerable time and effort in reading all of his links and if I find the material found within them unreasonable or incorrect I will offer a refutation and we can have an intellectually honesty and semi-rigorous debate about the topics covered” or alternatively should one think “this creep is an intellectually and emotionally dishonest crank whom is incapable of genuinely rational thought. After all if I did hypothetically waste half my life reading all his suggested crap he will just come back with even more of it from the infinite set of internet crap on such themes, whilst not addressing the criticisms in any serious way whatsoever, because either he’s as dumb as fuck or is disingenuous and acting in bad faith in some regard”. You see the ranting nut-job has an asymmetrical relationship to ‘evidence’ and argumentation. It is this: “I will believe and respect all my endless crap and I’ll ignore anything I don’t like”. And even if someone points out, in excruciating detail, why one of his lines of evidence is fatally flawed well it can be replaced, ad infinitum, with another form of slightly modified crap. Thus the obsessive crank’s ‘meta-hypothesis’ cannot be falsified. It’s axiomatically ‘true’ under all possible circumstances. And failing that one can just smear the non-believer as being a J-lizard, part of the conspiracy blah, blah, blah. So Joe we all know what you piss-poor ‘reasoning’ skills amount to. We all know, in general terms, the origin and nature of your tired, banal, and utterly stupid rhetorical tropes. In short anyone with a functioning intellect can tell you’re an intellectual pygmy that in an uber-cuntish way combines stunning ignorance, dishonesty and arrogance all in one. Now you might say tu quoque. However, much of life is about trustworthiness. Is this source of evidence trustworthy?, is this person trustworthy?, and so on. Joe you might in sincerity believe all of the bullshit you spout – it still doesn’t mean you (or it) are trustworthy or you are capable of rigorous and honest thought, or of using judgemental rationality in a serious and sober way. So yes we get it. Voodoo is ‘essential’. One is not a European without the Voodoo. It’s all a conspiracy by the ethnic group you love (to hate). Great for you. You have you tiny world-view, in your tiny mind and boy are you going to tell the world all about it! However, have you every considered that you might be wrong? That you need, to be even on the same page as rigorous thought, to consider alternative hypotheses and critically evaluate all the relevant evidence? No of course not because you have faith, you believe in infallibility – you own and that of the Voodoo shaman in chief and some old-time Jews. Fallibilism is for other people right? Of course your views might, just might not be 100% correct; the world might be somewhat different in reality from them. Your views might just say more about your own unimaginably incomplete, inadequate and narrow ‘conceptual horizons’ and your lack of knowledge. Is that a possibility? OK Joe so you say you desperately care about the ‘white race’. Given that you seem a fairly negative specimen of said race, why not do the folk you so care about, hell the entire planet, a favour and meet the Flying Spaghetti Monster ASAP. I think the universe itself might be better off. Otherwise just fuck off. YOU’RE AN IMBECILIC, INANE, SIMPLE-MINDED, WITLESS DULLARD WITH ALL THE ‘INSIGHTS’ OF A RETARDED CHILD AND A TOTALLY MONOTONOUS BORE. NO-ONE WITH A FUNCTIONING INTELLECT GIVES TWO SHITS FOR YOUR VACUOUS BULLSHIT. SAVVY? So perhaps you think “who the fuck is this guy. He’s just another bozo like me” - well do you really think that I couldn’t utterly destroy your desperately feeble ‘hypothesis’ (if I could be bothered to invest the time) and in the process systematically humiliate you intellectually and also rip with piss out of you just for shit and giggles? Ask the regulars here if you don’t believe me capable of such. Ask Mr. Richards if you can find him. So crawl back into you conceptual ghetto and then find an other place to be an echo-chamber for your ludicrous hogwash. And in doing so allow the grown-ups to attempt to have more serious and thoughtful conversation than you are capable of engaging with. There’s a good boy. I’m sure there are many corners of cyberspace in which everyone agrees that Voodoo is ‘axiomatically essential’ and that human history is but one long conspiracy. But thankfully such buffoonish claptrap and drivel, is not on the agenda of anyone other than genuinely pitiful and pathetic losers (in every possible regard). Now that’s what I call ‘playing nice’. Really I can do much, much worse. I really don’t suffer fools gladly. Oh and I know where that phrase comes from. And I know every rhetorical trick and trope of the average American Voodoo lover. I debated enough of them when I lived in the land of the free. I can see all the ridiculous, inchoate ‘manoeuvres’ and know more about the subject (theology and the Bible) than the average American Cheesus adherent (which admittedly isn’t hard). Joe, you and your type seem to think non-believers do not subscribe to Voodoo out of some type of ignorance or wilful perversity against the ‘truth’. Are you really sure that’s right? I recall an undergraduate whom was a regular attendee at the ‘Science & Faith’ seminars held at one of the colleges where I was employed during in my time in the USA. That college was very much in ‘heartland/soccer mom/Jesusland territory. The undergraduate in question had all the pseudo-intellectual talking points about why Voodoo had to be ‘correct’. We had a private conversation after the seminar I presented. By the end of that conversation the poor boy had tears in his eyes and his world-view was crumbling before my eyes. I seemingly had ‘destroyed’ his faith. Was that cruel on my part in not intellectually nor emotionally giving one inch? Perhaps, but I had so many damn idiotic Cheesus lovers offer me utter shit as an ‘argument’ I’d frankly had enough. My seminar had been about physicalism, Hume’s critique of religion and the non-existence of God (just to introduce the idea that the conflict between rational thought and magical thinking goes WAY beyond Darwin and evolution by natural selection). Another student (a PhD candidate), of the Cheesus camp, asked a couple of really dumb question at the question and answer session which I batted away. He looked very angry and frustrated and then proclaimed me to be “the most evil man he had ever met” to which I openly laughed and replied “I think that says more about you than me”. A professor of philosophy piped up and started to drone on about pantheism to which I replied “before you go too far into the subject it’s a completely trivia position unworthy of serious people” and went on to explain why in two or three minutes. His comeback was “well I disagree”. Wow what argumentative power from the pantheist philosopher! Now that’s not to boast - these people after all are the type that thinks the simpering and banal Krista Tippett provides ‘food for thought’ with her platitudinous ‘Speaking of Faith’ radio shows (now ludicrously called ‘On Being’) which has the uncritical ethos that “isn’t all and any belief in fairy tales really, really nice”. Again because of the ‘culture shock’ I experienced, aside from my professional duties, my subject of study was the cultural anthropology of the contemporary USA - including religiosity, creationism, all the various types of Voodoo. So Joe, for you and your ilk, well let’s say I know the terrain you’re operating on better than you do. Indeed it was my time in America that made me go back to reading philosophy (of science, of religion etc.) in order to comprehensively put the Cheesus morons in their place. Many Americans (not just the Voodoo lovers) live in such an unimaginably banal and conceptually improvised ‘bubble’ that the average European would not believe it was so, unless they personally experienced it on show. In Europe not even the thickest and most ignorant person thinks when and how the ‘rapture’ will occur is an issue fit for public discussion. In the USA the ‘Left Behind’ series of novels are multi-million best sellers. In Europe statistically no-one believes that Cheesus will return in their life-time. In the USA a sizable proportion of the ‘adult’ population do actually think they are personally going to meet Jesus in Ohio some time real soon. In Europe basically no-one thinks that God pro-actively intervenes in helping Lionel Messi to score goals for Barcelona. In America a sizeable proportion of the so-called adult population believes Tim Tebow was especially helped by God to win a play-off game. Such people might be physical adults but they are emotional and intellectual children. They live within an infantile world-view. Call me prejudiced folks but Joe strikes me as precisely one of those cretinous Americans with their piss-poor and intellectually illiterate ‘Voodoo’ beliefs. Now if you want to get serious and debate how you came by all this ‘knowledge’ of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and the robustness of Voodoo as a world-view please by all means bring it on. But Joe do everyone a favour - walk idiot, walk - preferably off the top of a skyscraper somewhere. I’ll get back to the work of non-Voodoo, non-Cheesus loving, hence ‘non-European’ authors such as Aristophanes, Homer, Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides et al., instead of engaging with the protozoan likes of Joe and his risible ‘thought’. Really just what level of contemptible stupidity can Americans ‘achieve’? Please let’s not try to find out. P.S. I am not going to be lectured by not very bright people that believe in magic Thorn (cough, cough). Voodoo is, at its core, little more than magical thinking. It’s fucking bullshit as an genuine ‘explanation’ of anything. OK so deal with it motherfucker. Human beings invent Gods - not the other way about. ‘Prove’ me wrong - go on I’m sure it will be ‘easy’ to do so. 55
Posted by Joe on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:13 | # @ Graham_Lister For someone who can’t be “bothered to invest the time” to debate me in an honest, straight-forward manner, you sure DO have plenty of time to be “bothered to invest the time” to write an extremely long ad-hominem slur. An ad-hominem slur Writ-Large ; You had the time to be “bothered to invest the time” to write an ad-hominem slur writ-large, as well as extremely tedious to the Nth degree then some. This “boy” certainly ain’t crying—I don’t have “tears in my eyes”, my world-view hasn’t crumbled because of your ad-hominem slurs, not at all. I’m laughing at you in fact ; You haven’t given me any SOLID info about your Dasein as of yet, just bullshit, disambiguation, convolution, cognitive dissonance, deflection from my solid points, distraction, so the readers may—you hope, disregard my posts—all filled with solid, factual source references, ad-hominem slurs after more ad-hominem slurs, more deflection from the truth, a refusal to debate in a straight-forward honest manner, more ad-hominem slurs .... Would I be correct in asserting your quickeness to indulge in ad-hominem slurs and attacks is a way to deflect from debating your points with solid reference sources, would I be correct to say your being “apophantic” with me ? Is that the Dasein term for your never-ending bullshit? Speaking about creating “Gods”, especially false “Gods”—About the Dasienite “God” Shitler [someone mentioned Shitler today ] :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzHV3Cbpjck Shitler had the blood and spirit of a Donmeh Jew : that’s the “God” of the Daseintes ; Search Term : ” Hitler Was A Jew Himself “ To learn more about the role of Donmeh Jews in the Zionist New World Order ; http://www.biblesearchers.com/hebrewchurch/primitive/losttribesisrael14.shtml More about Shitler and other Donmeh Jews and the Zionist NW0 ; “The Rothschilds, Hitler, Holocaust, Israel, and Zionist World Government” : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTnHcHsUNM0 The conservative Christians in the USA were the only group of people in the US to oppose the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965—the Immigration Bill that opened up our borders to the whole third world ; While the Dasein hippies of the 1960’s were busy following the commie Jews who started the “cultural revolution” of the 1960’s : And all the ad-hominem slurs in the world doesn’t change that, all the bullshit in the world doesn’t change that, all the Whiskey in Ireland and all the Jack Daniels in Tennessee doesn’t change that.
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Posted by DanielS on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:38 | # Jewish Joe, we have already known that Marxist interests had organized many of the anti-war protests. MacDonald, for one, had discussed that a few months ago. Nevertheless, it just so happens, draft protests overlapped an authentic motive in White men. That doesn’t make the SDS legitimate to Whites, nor Tom Hayden, as I had said clearly above, nor Marxism. Some Christians may have opposed Hart-Celler at the time but obviously the majority neither effectively opposed it nor the war. While many Christians supported the war and supported or went along with Hart-Cellar. The bottom line is your Jewish determination to lay the blame of Jewish activism on hippies, as White men, with conspiracy theory and to attack the authentic interests of White men, to replace it with the inauthentic, philo-semitism, servitude to Jews and ultimate death in Christianity.
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Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:32 | # As we are back to this tiresome (and doubtless unresolvable) metaphysical debate, I think I’ll repost what I put up a week ago. I am interested in Dr. Lister’s responses, if any.
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Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:46 | # [No idea what’s the story with the weird blue font in my reposted comment above.] BTW, it should not have to be noted that ‘Joe’ hardly represents the apex of theological thought. Every tradition has its mystics (I don’t mean those claiming direct experience of divinity), it seems, those who wish to believe they have a deeper understanding of things, or hidden knowledge, or a Key to All Mysteries, etc. Dr. Lister ought to think hard, and write something definitive in rebuttal to conspiracist forms of reasoning, which always strike me as a form of radical scepticism, if not usually also nihilism. It is the mode of a certain type of unintelligent person, those uncomfortable with ambiguity, and the brute facts that historical knowledge is always partial, and human motives finally unknowable. Thus, historical conclusions are never definitive, always involve unrepeatable events and therefore mere calculations of interpretive probabilities, and the conspiracist hides in that epistemological and historiographical ‘space’. The conspiracist, moreover, is always asking others to prove that something is not so, whilst being singularly unwilling to meet ordinary standards of proof wrt his own assertions. Of course, as we all noted in the course of The JRichards Wars, the conspiracist always has another ‘fallback’ position whenever ones does expend the effort (and often it is a lot of effort) to disprove this or that unlikely assertion. Intellectual progress requires a certain ethics or goodwill on the part of participants, and the conspiracist essentially cheats, being less interested in finding the likeliest explanation for the event under consideration than in defending his preferred position at all costs. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, if their maker expects to be taken seriously. Initially, I felt a certain ideological kinship with ‘Joe’, insofar as he professed to be both Catholic and white preservationist. I took the time to examine some of his linked “indisputable sources”, and was not impressed by their intellectual quality or likely factual reliability. Never in history has so much information been so available, making an ability to discern quality from mere simulacra of quality more essential than ever. Thus far, ‘Joe’ (amongst many others here, to be fair) has not shown this ability. Seriously, Graham, you ought to consider writing an essay on the shoddy reasoning of conspiracism in general. Your background in science, as well as readings in general philosophy and especially philosophy of science, would seem to be nearly-perfect for this task (perfection would be for a trained logician with a background in philosophy of science - someone like the race-realist Michael Levin, author of the excellent Why Race Matters - to tackle this subject). You could start by submitting a rough draft here for criticism and comments, and then later rework it for more widespread publication in some mainstream online publication, like AEON magazine (if not perhaps even for a professional philosophy journal). Conspiracism is exploding, thanks to the information access that the internet offers to otherwise untrained (and mostly, let’s be honest, inferior) minds. 59
Posted by DanielS on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:51 | # This is Haller’s strategy: to bury honestly motivated discussion in droves of discussion about Christian (if not Mises) bullshit. Make no mistake, if there comes a volatile situation of collapse, people having White skin is no guarantee that they are on our side. These Christians doing the bidding of their philo-semite masters will take aim at White Nationalists, liable to shoot them as “Nazis”, “Anti-Christs”, “Secular Humanists”, “Communists” or whatever false attribution they can hang on you: how about “Daseinists” for a wacked-out neologism from these Jesus Freaks. Christianity is downright dangerous to the interests of native European loyalists. 60
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:51 | #
Perhaps Dr. L can start his essay based on the conspiracies engaged in by the FBI. More specifically the pretence of the FBI saving us from terrorism. He can start by examining the question: Are the FBI saving us from actual planned attacks of real terrorists or are they really saving us from plots of their own creation? Of course the answer is the latter. The FBI boosts that they have foiled 17 terrorist attacks against America since 9-11. Actually 20 terrorist attacks have been thwarted: 17 by the FBI and 3 by ordinary citizens. What the FBI and the media won’t tell you is the 17 attacks prevented by the Feds were created by the Feds! The other three that were not FBI creations—i.e. ACUAL TERRORIST THREATS—were foiled by ordinary citizens. What does that tell us about the competence of our premier law enforcement agency? (Incompetence, deception, fraud, and tyranny come to mind.) I can imagine a small group of rouge FBI agents sitting around in a conference room plotting and scheming; crafting plans designed for the purpose of making it appear they are doing a bang-up job thus justifying their existence in the eyes of the public. A bit of job insurance, I suppose. But I digress…. Judge Andrew Nepolitano is one of the few VERY credible voices left in the American MSM. Watch his vid. It’s well worth the 5 minutes. Then again, he only reaffirms what most astute observers of current events already know ... but he lays out the case so professionally. FBI Fake Terror Plot History: Judge Andrew Nepolitano http://lewrockwell.com/napolitano/napolitano98.1.html
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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:19 | #
I would expect nothing different coming from a ‘Dasienite’ hippie, such as yourself, Danny! HEH! Now run along, Danny. Besides, instead of wasting precious time here, shouldn’t you be working on that new religion you are in the process of inventing? The white race is counting on you to save them! Priorities, Danny! Priorities! For god’s sake, Danny, get your priorities in order! LOL!
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Posted by DanielS on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:35 | # Who is laughing at who Thornblossom? Go to your church and warm your pew.. Or consult Illana Mercer, or Joe LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 63
Posted by Joe on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:23 | # We seem to have run into a conundrum. Well, Christianity was always a bit of a dilemma for Daseinites, somewhat of a stumbling block for Daseinites : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7jBnk4gizg&NR=1&feature=fvwp What would John Wayne do, Uhhh, oh excuse me, please, I mean : What would the great Dasein “philosopher”—Heidegger—say about this Daseinite predicament ? Perhaps Heidegger can save us from this Daseinite dilemma ? This stumbling block we call Christianity—and lead us home to Dasein Gebolte das Norden Landen : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZkYMwmMS4k Please excuse any “disclosure”—er, excuse me, please excuse any commercial that may precede video(s). 64
Posted by DanielS on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:31 | # You are not excused get the fuck out of here, Jew. 65
Posted by Ex-ProWhiteActivist on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:39 | # Graham Listerbag, There is a term for individuals like you. I hope GW’s ever-diminishing House at MR will forgive me for resorting to inaccessible technical jargon. You are a shitbag. In your case ‘methinks the lady doth protest too much’. Someone who rants the way you do for years generally has a personal grudge motivating him. For what ‘cause’ were you fired in the USA? Did Bible Belters get you dumped for “moral turpitude’? Perhaps in Ohio? Or did they just not renew your contract for unstated reasons?
‘Rapture’ did you say? Are you referring perhaps to the ‘Rapture’ and fundamentally Zionist ‘Premillenial Dispensationalism’ first preached by the Anglo-Irish lawyer John Nelson Darby of the Plymouth Brethren? Darby then dumped his intellectual sewage sludge upon America’s shores like so much other British-produced intellectual effluent. And other such British export ideas that immediately occur include: Jew David Ricardo’s bogus theories of Free Trade and comparative advantage; Burkean ‘Conservatism’; 19th & 20th Century political Zionism; Marxism (or Mordechai Levyism); League of Nations globalism… Zionist Premillenial Dispensationalism? You don’t even know what I’m talking about, you arrogant, ignorant pissant. You can assess what this is by referring to the annotated Scofield Reference Bible with its abundant pro-Jew and pro-Zionist footnotes. Surely this edition must be good enough for you. It was originally published by the Oxford University Press (the one in Oxford, England) in 1909. An updated edition was issued in 1917 concurrently with the Balfour Declaration (London. Imperial War Cabinet). It was updated again in 1967 to define a new sin of anti-Semitism. And it still carries the imprimatur of the Oxford University Press to this day. I have long been intrigued by the original publication decision. Cyrus I. Scofield (adherent of Darby) was a disbarred Republican lawyer, a convicted, jailed swindler and a known dead-beat father and adulterer. He possessed no divinity degree from any recognized seminary and is not known to have been able to read ancient Aramaic, Hebrew or Greek. Scofield became notorious in the USA with his repeated financial peculations and perjuries. These were strange credentials indeed for the author of an annotated Bible published by the leading academic institution of the British Empire. But your academic predecessors in Great Britain found him superbly qualified. According to you it’s not possible the British Empire’s Deep State would marshal all resources to support policies decided upon at the highest levels. And it is a complete coincidence that Cyrus I Scofield finalized the editing his book in Switzerland at the same time Theodore Herzl and the World Zionist Organization were convening there. And it is well known that no organized group has ever manipulated religion to political or economic ends. No, it was all coincidence. Fortunately we have you to assure us that all human history is a statistical random walk. No two humans have ever cooperated in a common enterprise. Causality does not exist in human affairs. And the legislatures of every jurisdiction on Earth have outlawed ‘conspiracies’ on pure whims. What a waste of time to outlaw that which does not exist, according to you. Just to be specific, Graham Listerbag, you are a slimy diarrhea shit-filled shitbag topped off with vomit siphoned from stadium toilet floors during a Manchester United game. I think you even meet the US Supreme Court’s modern test to qualify as living pornography: “utterly without redeeming social value”. Some day I might stop soft pedaling this and tell you what I really think of you.
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Posted by Joe on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:16 | # Heil Heidegger !!! Heidegger is the “philosopher” of Dasein. Indeed, in-fact, Heidegger is the “founder” of the Dasein “religion”. Heidegger = The Dasein version of the “John the Baptist” : Heidegger proclaimed the coming of the Dasein “Savior”, Hitler. Listen to the “great” founder of the Dasein “religion” : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZkYMwmMS4k Heil Heidegger !!! http://chronicle.com/article/Heil-Heidegger-/48806/ Heidegger, as we all know of course, was a member of Hitler’s Third Reich : Heidegger was Hitler’s “philosopher” of the Third Reich. To Heidegger, Hitler was the “Savior”—the Messiah—of the Dasein ‘religion”. About Heidegger’s Dasein “Savior” of the White Race : About Sabbateans, Satanism, Nazis, and Zionism, about Hitler : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNAAWB3TvK4 These are the very same people [satanic sabbatean jews ] who gave you proud White Daseins your precious “White Race Religion(s)” : The same people [ satanic sabbatean jews] who gave the Muslims their Islamic Jihadist “Muslim Brotherhood”, the very same people [ satanic sabbatean jews ] who gave the Jews their die-hard, war-mongering Zionism. The nexus point where Dasein, Zionism, Islamic Jihad, and Nazism meet ; The nexus point where Dasein, Zionism, Islamic Jihad, and Nazism meet, and have everything in common ; At the nexus point where Dasein, Zionism, Islamic Jihad, and Nazism meet, stands the Satanic Sabbatean Jews : This nexus point where the Satanic Sabbatean Jews plan their New World Order is the source—the wellspring—of Dasein. Dasein is NOT an indigenous “religion” to Authentic White Europe. Dasein, like Zionism, like Islamic Jihad, like Nazism [ also Communism] originates from the Satanic Sabbatean Jews. As Satanic Sabbatean Jews started the Dasein “religion”, the Dasein “religion” is designed to lead us Whites astray : To use us Whites as tools to usher in the Sabbatean New World Order, to drag us into the Zionist New World Order—albeit in an under-handed and covert way ; http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.terrorismilluminati.19.htm The Third Reich and The Occult—and Heidegger was very much a part of the Nazi occult—as Heidegger was Hitler’s Daseinite “John the Baptist” ; Heidegger proclaimed the coming of the Daseinite “Messiah” Hitler : http://www.naderlibrary.com/cult.unholyalliance.toc.htm The well-spring—the source—of Dasein : Satanic Sabbatean Jews. Heidegger himself wasn’t Jewish, but his work, his philosophy, his whole life, served the Sabbatean Jews.
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Posted by Joe on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:51 | # An excellent study on the origins of the Sabbatean/Zionist New World Order, from an ontological stand-point. The various forces, the various philosophies—including Dasein—that have lead us to this enormous mess we’re in as a Race. Dasein—and all variations of Existentialism—comes from satanic Medieval Sufism—brought to Western Europe from Satanists of all stripes ; Satanists of all stripes in service to Satanic Sabbatean Jews, as the Sabbatean Jews are the very ones who own and control Satanism. Satanism is a “religion”. The Sabbatean Jews own and control the ‘religion” we call Satanism. About the historical ontological source(s) of the Sabbatean/Zionist New World Order. A New World Order Dasein is very much a part of—Dasein serves the Satanists as Dasein is existentialist, denies a Holy Creator, denies Grace, denies Redemption, denies Salvation, Dasein is Anti-Chist to-the-core ; That’s very clear from what happened in Brussels the other day—the Dasein girls attacking a White Man because he spoke up for heterosexuality, Morality, Family ; A man—a Christian man—trying to safe-guard the Genetic Heritage of the White Race—he was viciously attacked by Daseinites for trying to call his fellow Whites to Morality, to Family, to Children. At a time the White birth-rate is at barely replaceable levels and simultaneously Europe—and the whole Occident—is being over-run with third world hordes, the Daseinites attack a White Man who is speaking up on behalf of Morality, Heterosexuality, Family, and Children. At a time we as a Race are suffering a “silent genocide”, the Daseinites attack a Christian man for speaking up for the White Race, trying to encourage his fellow Whites back home to Morality, Family , and to Children. And the Daseinites here at Majority Rights who make such a big stink about how much they love the White Race [ Graham Lister for example ] actually support the Dasein girls for attacking a White Man who calls us to Morality, Family, Children. About the root sources of the Satanic Anti-Christ Sabbatean New World Order—one of the root ontological sources is Dasein, in other words, Existentialism : “Black Terror, White Soldiers : Islam, Fascism, and The New Age “ by David Livingstone : http://uploads.empire-newmedia.com/BTWS_preview_1.pdf Learn the true source of Dasein.
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Posted by Joe on Sat, 27 Apr 2013 23:48 | # Dasein is NOT indigenous to White Europe. Dasein is Islamic in its ontology, metaphysics, and eschatology. Dasein comes from a branch of Islam called Sufism. Sufism is part of Satanism. Sufi books are part of the Satanist’s library, right next to the Kaballah, another book of the Satanists. Sabbatean and Donmeh Jews play [ed] a big role in creating Sufism. From Sufism we get Existentialism , and we get Dasein. Dasein fits in with Sufism perfectly : “Sufi Thought And Heidegger” by Abdalqadir http://www.fundacionalandalus.org/index.php?id=328
“Heidegger For Muslims” : The Foreward of “Heidegger for Muslims” ; ” Be prepared [ Muslims] for a great adventure that will set you free to enjoy your Islam even more…. Now we can start ...” : http://www.dallascollegect.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/q6i7HFH32b_nSCUkmx7qyhBImT411.pdf
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Posted by Joe on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:18 | # Learn more about Islam, Sufism : Sufism = from which Dasein originates as the very source, Islamic Jihad, The Muslim Brotherhood, the Zionist New World Order : http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/content/muslim-brotherhood The website lists all the various Islamic type of Islamic Jihadists—all of them Sufists. The Muslims got their Sufism/Jihad from the very same Satanic Sabbatean Jews that gave Europe Nazism/Fascism, all the so-called “white race religions”, including and especially Existentialism and Dasein. Main page of website : http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/ A great web-site for historical matters, especially historical matters that effect, are a part-and-parcel of, what’s going on today with the Zionist push for a New World Order, a NWO ruled from Jerusalem by intense, satanic Communist Sufist/Kaballah/Talmudic Jews. 70
Posted by Leon Haller on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:03 | # DanielS, You seem either to dislike or be having nasty feuds with a remarkably wide range of persons: Thorn, Silver, Matt Parrott and CC, ‘Joe’, me (maybe others I’m forgetting). What gives? Some say that my “pro-white and pro-Christian” stance is logically untenable, and/or unlikely ever to be politically popular (at least among white nationalists). I disagree with both criticisms, though wrt WNs, I frankly only slightly care. I’m much more interested in getting white Christian conservatives to accept racial realities than proselytizing WNs. After all, there are so many more white Christian conservatives than WNs - and I suspect always will be (and even in blessed Europe: the most anti-Third World immigration, pro-white fecundity, pro-Le Pen major demographic group in France today, for example, is that of religiously conservative white Catholics). I do think that your own “pro-white + anti-Christian yet also anti-Nazi” position, though perfectly logical (if not metaphysically correct, imo), is never going to get you anywhere among WNs. Christianity will inoculate a white preservationist from Nazism, and vice versa, but outside of historic European nations, at least, I think those two antagonistic cosmologies are the only options. I’ve never attended any pro-white gathering outside of the US, but among the ones I’ve attended here, though I’ve met persons who were neither Christian nor Nazi (many at Jared Taylor’s American Renaissance gatherings fit that bill), I never met anyone both anti-Christian and anti-Nazi. You are rowing upstream. 71
Posted by Graham_Lister on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:22 | # This might be a double post - MR seems to have ‘eaten’ by previous attempt. Sorry if that is the case. I see MR has reached another low point. Why let’s have Sunday school style ‘Bible lessons’. What does this passage ‘mean’ kiddies? Now I never claimed that Voodoo was unimportant or insignificant to European history. But then a malignant neoplasm is important and significant for the patient. However, when people start throwing around terms like ‘essential’ they are making a far stronger claim that mere importance. It’s more along the lines of an exclusionary and reductionist statement such as “the essence of water is that it consists of molecules made from two hydrogen atoms appropriately bonded to one oxygen atom”. So all of genuine European thought and presence in the world is reduced to Voodoo and its many sublimated forms (in the same way H2O can be sublimated into its gaseous and solid states)? Hmm really are you sure on that one? Does anyone, on speaking terms with judgemental rationality, actually believe that anyone, other than the genuinely benighted or intellectually dishonest ideologue, could in good faith hold the ‘Voodoo is essential’ hypothesis, or assert that it a reasonable starting point for further evaluation and discussion? The answer must surely be no. Sadly however brain-dead, emotionally fearful, conservatives think that God came down from on high and via some magic tricks told some desert dwelling Jews ‘timeless truths’ - Let’s all live by what a talking ‘burning bush’ told a mentally-ill Jew etc., (well today we probably think that people who have plants actually ‘speaking’ to them directly would not be ‘all there’ mentally wouldn’t we?). And if we don’t buy into the whole thing then the sky will metaphorically and then literally fall upon our heads. As a bonus such folks that do believe will be personally able to meet Jesus on his comeback tour in Oklahoma. Apparently some 40% of American ‘adults’ think the comeback tour will happen within their lifetimes. Now that’s not the basis for a sensible conversation about Christianity, religious belief etc., in both its positive and negative forms/aspects. Look much of what motivates religious belief is not credulity as such. It’s more a variation of ‘just-world’ fallacies on steroids. That there are ultimately good reason behind why bad stuff happens, and/or ultimately justice will inevitably prevail, and/or people get what they ‘deserve’. As the British author David Peace puts it religion, specifically Christianity, has a deep element of negative theodicy working through it. Peace is a British crime writer that tackles subjects such as the ‘Yorkshire Ripper’ To quote him on his work: “Faced with the terrible brutality in these books - and again, this isn’t a particularly popular idea at the moment - I strongly think you have to believe in God, that there’s something better within us all and something worth saving that will triumph in the face of whatever you’re put through.” - from an interview in the ‘New Statesman’ in 2001. The crime genre is of course well suited to explore the problems (moral, existential, theological) posed by ‘odious deaths’: the deaths of those who have met their end prematurely, whose death is not the proper conclusion of a well-lived and long life, but rather its violent and unjust curtailment. Peace’s novels explicitly posit the idea that, far from undermining the existence of God, evil and suffering entail that God must exist. It resembles, in the form of the crime novel, Kant’s moral argument for the existence of God, which is, in effect, an inversion of the problem of evil. The problem of evil maintains that suffering, particularly suffering visited upon the innocent is a radical form of injustice, means that the theistic God could not exist, since a benevolent, omnipotent and omniscient, and ultimately just being would not countenance undeserved suffering and injustice. With his inventory of wretched child abuse cases, Dostoyevsky’s Ivan Karamazov makes the most famous, and most passionate, statement of this position. Yet if there is no God, the suffering remains, only now there is no possibility of its expiation; if there can no justice to come, the world is permanently blighted, irrevocably scarred by atrocity, abuse and torture. Kant’s solution relies upon an argument from longing: our yearning for justice insists that this cannot be enough, that appalling suffering cannot go unexpiated. There must be justice, and only God is in the position to deliver it. The longing for justice is entirely human, completely understandable and one that any morally decent person would be moved by. However, the brutal truth is that the doers of evil are frequently not punished and that bad, terrible, and quite awful thing happen to good people (the 1755 Lisbon earthquake anyone?) without any rhythm or reason or ‘deeper’ meaning behind the events. After all look at the activity of the Voodoo child-rape gang and their complicit institutional enablers. Would a just and loving God really allow or want such things? Would morally virtuous people cover-up such activities? God and human ideas of God are doubly responsible in this case I guess. And this morally bankrupt, often criminal organisation is, we are told time and time again, is the true ‘essence’ of Europe. Well if you really think that get tae fuck as we say in Scotland. No that isn’t a ‘sectarian’ anti-Papist comment. The ‘Holy willies’ and never-ending parade of Elmer Gantry characters (always seeking desperate/gullible rubes and their money) of the Protestant tradition are, in their own ways, equally loathsome. And some Voodoo lovers wonder why some of us have ‘problems’ with their world-view and how it is practically manifested in the world - as opposed to their rose-tinted idealised version that magically is somehow untainted by all the intellectual, moral, financial etc., corruption of actually existing Voodoo? Jesus wept as the saying goes. Or there’s none so blind as those who will not see. 72
Posted by DanielS on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:33 | # Leon, I have already answered why I took strong issue with the people I have, so I will not repeat myself. I would stress here that I do not set out to address Christians or people who want to be Christians. Many and probably most people of native European descent do not believe Christianity and will not be persuaded. I agree with them. However, because we do not believe in Christianity does not mean that we are not beholden to moral rules even if only de facto. Nor does it mean that we do not deserve a moral order or the capacity for a more deliberate discussion of a non-Christian and non-Judaic moral order. There are many places and sites to go to for people who are seeking a Christian discussion and to bring a Christian order into more of a social agreement and practice. If MR was such a place, i.e., if it insisted that I must be a Christian and would not stand for non-Christian discussions, I would not come here. I do not go to Christian sites and harass them. Non-Christians deserve a place to discuss non-Christian moral orders and how we might bring them into more deliberate practice. However, while Christian ignoramuses impose themselves here, they have made themselves didactically instructive - particularly in their philo-semitism and impulse to attack the most benign initiatives on behalf of White/native European interest.
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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:42 | #
Actually water in its solid state cannot sublimate. Before H2O goes into its gaseous state, it must pass though its liquid state. CO2 sublimates. I.e., its goes from a solid state straight into a gaseous state. Physics 101. 74
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:47 | # ^^^^ Assuming conditions are at 1 atmospheric pressure of course (14.7 psi). 75
Posted by DanielS on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:04 | # and jeezus walks on the water, dies, is reborn, then vaporizes into heaven, returns in rapture, shining like the sun… physics 101 77
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:23 | # DanielS, How’s that newfangled religion you’re working on coming along? Can you give us a progress report? Any progress beyond the 14 Words? Anything? 78
Posted by Joe on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:44 | # @ Graham_Lister I notice your Dasein “religion” leads you to support the Dasein women in Brussels who viciously attacked a White man—in this case, a White Catholic priest—for calling his fellow white Europeans to Morality, to Heterosexuality, to Family, to Children. At a time in history when the White birth rate is barely at replaceable levels—and simultaneously Europe is being over-run with Arabs/Islamicists—I notice that you, qua Daseinite that you are, support the lesbians pushing hard for their gay/lesbian agenda. You were actually happy the White man was viciously attacked, even though he was calling our fellow Whites to Morality, Heterosexuality, Family Life, and Children. You’re happy he was attacked. You were very straight-forward and honest about it, and in a very boastful and gloating manner. The lesbians are pushing so hard for their gay/lesbian agenda they actually attacked a White man who spoke up for Morality, Family, and Children : You are happy about it, you supported the lesbians. The lesbians are pushing an agenda which is obviously a genetic dead-end for the White Race, especially as the birth-rate is so low as it is, you who make such a big stink about loving the White Race, yet you support the lesbians who are pushing an agenda which results in even less White Children being born into the world ; I notice you support the lesbian women in Brussels who attacked a White man for calling our fellow Whites to Morality, Family, and to Have Children ; At a time when Europe is being over-run with Arabs + the White birth rate is hardly at replaceable levels, you—qua Daseinite that you are—support the agenda which leads the White Race to a genetic dead-end : You were very clear that you supported the lesbians.
As Dasein originates from Islam, the Sufi [ satanic] branch of Islam—and Dasein is infused with Sufism, I’m not surprised you, qua Daseinite that you are, support an agenda which leads to less White Children being born into the world. Keep your Dasein, Mr. Lister, it’s a genetic dead -end : That’s EXACTLY why the Satanic Sabbatean Jews and Satanists of all stripes pushed existentialism and Dasein so hard on the White Race—EXACTLY because it leads to Genetic Dead-End : EXACTLY because it leads to Less White Children for Europe, and more Arabs. The Jews want to rule over a race-mixed people in their Zionist New World Order ; Hymie-in-Afula, Israel told us that—he was very honest about the goal of the Zionist Jews. That’s why they’re flooding Europe with Arabs—a very race-mixed people—while simultaneously pushing existentialism and Dasein on the White Race. I notice Dasein works for the Sabbatean Jews, because the Daseinite women in Brussels ,and you yourself a Daseinite, support an agenda which results in less White Children being born into the world. Dasein serves the Zionist New World Order. I notice your feral hatred for Christianity is as intense as any Satanist. I notice you never tell the readers how the Catholic Church was infiltrated by Communists [ read : Daseinites] in the 1930’s when the Church was under military siege, by Fascists, Nazis, and Communists [ all 3 are types of Dasein “followers”]. You make such a big stink about how much you love the White Race, yet you despise with pure passionate hatred the Catholic Church : The One Institution—The Only Institution—that was against the massive internecine-genocidal White Race war we call WW2. You despise with passionate hatred the Very Institution that tried to Safeguard the Genetic Heritage of the White Race : I’m not surprised as Dasein is infused with Satanic Sufist ontology/metaphysics and comes to us from Satanic Sabbatean Jews. I notice, also, you never have a good word for the Russian Christians who defeated Communism in the Jew-Commie Soviet Union. I notice you despise with passionate hatred the VERY FAITH that defeated Communism in the erstwhile Jew Soviet Union. And Daniel S calls me a Jew. I also notice Daniel S despises with a passionate hatred the VERY FAITH that defeated Jew Communism just as much as you do, Mr. Lister.
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Posted by Joe on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:11 | # Daniel S mentioned the other day that the Dasein “religion” has “sacraments”. I asked Daniel S what the “sacraments” are, but he couldn’t answer my question in a straight-forward way. I’m still waiting to find out what “sacraments” the Daseinites have to sanctify their families, their children, their lives, to express gratitude for the gift of life, etc. I’m still waiting to find out what the Daseinite “sacraments” are exactly. Remember Your 14 Words Daniel S !!!!!! Don’t Ever Forget The 14 Words !!!!!! Dasein Originates From Islam And Sufism And Comes To Us From Satanic Sabbatean Jews !!!!!! 80
Posted by DanielS on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:14 | # It’s coming along just fine, Thorn. In fact, most people have abandoned Christianity long ago. 81
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:16 | # @77 Good work, Joe. I’m coming to the conclusion daniels and Graham Lister are not nearly as pro-white as they are anti-Christ. One wonders if the main reason for their interest in WN is they (especially daniles) see it as a platform in which to attack the Church. Obviously they have serious unresolved psychological issues they’re grappling with; but their motives are too egregious, too overdone, and moreover, too transparent NOT to take serious notice of. 82
Posted by DanielS on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:23 | # Posted by Thorn on April 28, 2013, 09:16 AM | # @77 Good work, Joe. I’m coming to the conclusion daniels and Graham Lister are not nearly as pro-white as they are anti-Christ. One wonders if the main reason for their interest in WN is they (especially daniles) see it as a platform in which to attack the Church. Obviously they have serious unresolved psychological issues they’re grappling with; but their motives are too egregious, too overdone, and moreover, too transparent NOT to take serious notice of.
You are mentally retarded. As for your suggestion that I am more anti-Christian than pro-White, it is utter bullshit, just as the shit that Joe spews. I would scarcely talk about Christianity if I did not have to defend my actual meanings against your misrepresentation. 83
Posted by DanielS on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:32 | # ..including Jewish Joe’s lie that I have not suggested what and how non-Christian sacrament may be. 84
Posted by DanielS on Wed, 18 Sep 2013 05:25 | # On September 18, 1970, after a typical evening of vast and presumptuous over-indulgence, this one including a combination of red wine and a massive over dose of sleeping pills, paramedics discovered Jim Hendrix dead, in his hotel room with him having spewed torrents of purple vomit everywhere. The incident was presaged in his signature, “Purple Vomit.” Purple Vomit, all around. Purple Vomit, in my lungs. Excuse me, while I wheeze and die..
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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:39 | # DanielS, as I’m sure you know, Hendrix set out his counter - cultural stall at Woodstock with his cacophonous corruption of “The Star Spangled Banner”. Having ripped the piss out of the Establishment , he wrote a contrite letter of explanation to his father whose slightly more elevated musical tastes ran to Nat King Cole and Ella Fitzgerald. 86
Posted by DanielS on Sat, 23 Nov 2013 05:08 | # DanielS says: Berkeley was the site, the epicenter of the radical Jewish influence of the 60′s, not San Fancisco. They tried to marry their agenda to the hippie thing (and obviously managed to confuse many, especially those who are viewing it retrospectively, only through the lens of Jewish interpretation) by superficially affixing to a common cause with Whites in being against the Viet Nam war. I maintain that this anti-hippie ranting is a way of blaming White men and/or being fooled into doing as much, for Jewish machinations. It is a disservice.
First of all the majority of individuals who were anti war were actually from the right when the Vietnam conflict first started not the hippie left. The left were MIA in the early stages of the conflict. It is my belief that Jew system used those dirty hippies who smelled like sewer water, to take over and derail the anti war movement, so as to alienate legitimate middle class working Americans from the cause. The fact is that many regular Americans from the right and the moderate center of the Southern blue dog democratic base were actually already questioning Vietnam, long before those Berkeley Frisco weirdos were. When the radical Bolshevik left created those “anti war” activists to enter the debate it actually decimated the legitimate anti war movement and in my opinion played right into the hands of the Jew establishment. Those people undermined the cause in much the same way that “911 toof” has in the current corruptions of the past decade. Thnx Mike for explaining “actually from the right when the Vietnam conflict first started not the hippie left” as told by the jew written narrative. Also helping educate youth about JFK . 50 years after assassination of JFK DanielS says: Mike, Your Don’t get It. Mike Sledge says: “First of all the majority of individuals who were anti war were actually from the right” Wherever they were from, that is fine. But I doubt that the military industrial complex, corporate interests and the CIA were anti Viet Nam war – most people would call those things “right wing”. “when the Vietnam conflict first started not the hippie left.” You are not making a crucial distinction here. “Hippies”, i.e. White men / from Radical Marxist Jews. “The left were MIA in the early stages of the conflict. It is my belief that Jew system used those dirty hippies who smelled like sewer water” It is your belief. Bye the way, did go around smelling them? “to take over and derail the anti war movement, so as to alienate legitimate middle class working Americans from the cause.” The Jews would use anybody they could, including hippies to the extent that they could, just as they are now using you to blame White men by putting so much blame on “hippies.” “The fact is that many regular Americans from the right and the moderate center of the Southern blue dog democratic base were actually already questioning Vietnam, long before those Berkeley Frisco weirdos were.” You are still blending Berkeley and its Jewish radicalism, with Whites. “When the radical Bolshevik left created those “anti war” activists to enter the debate it actually decimated the legitimate anti war movement and in my opinion played right into the hands of the Jew establishment.” That’s your theory. But what is far less speculative is that those “dirty hippies” that you insist on blaming for everything (in doing so, pandering to bad women, and distracting from Jewish feminism, the real and out of turn offense of the times), had a very real motive not to be drafted into Viet Nam. “Those people undermined the cause in much the same way that “911 toof” has in the current corruptions of the past decade.” Sure, it was all the fault of young White men who did not want to go to Viet Nam. Not Jews, not corporate elite, not the military industrial complex, not corrupt politicians, Nicholas Katzenbach, not Lyndon Johnson etc. 87
Posted by DanielS on Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:59 | # Buzz Aldrin greets a “never walked on the moon” conspiracy theorist.
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Posted by G.Johnson on conspiracy theories on Fri, 12 Jun 2015 01:46 | # Greg Johnson’s Red Ice Radio Interview, Part 2
See full article at Counter-Currents: http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/06/on-conspiracy-theories/
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Posted by DanielS on Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:26 | # Greg Johnson’s Red Ice Radio Interview, Part 2
See full article at Counter-Currents: http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/06/on-conspiracy-theories/
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Posted by redpillian on Fri, 12 Jun 2015 12:11 | #
Well HP, it would’ve been a hell of a lot easier if “certain” conspiracy heads didn’t spend the last 10 years pushing theories on “Conehead Jesuits from Alpha Centauri” when it was convenient.
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Posted by Vito's dancing dasein on Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:56 | # Vito’s dancing dasein: 92
Posted by Lana: it's all the fault of hippies...eeew on Fri, 25 Sep 2015 09:11 | # It’s all the fault of the hippies! they took drugs and had fun without my piece of ***! They had the nerve to not want to die in Vietnam to siphon-off those pesky excess beta males…who I don’t want to be bothered with ...eeew, get away ....eeew. It’s all the fault of hippies (White men who did not conduct themselves like dominant baboons).... they should’ve followed right-wing obligations, should’ve been obedient to war-mongers, submit to draft, go rape and kill Vietnamese... We should take your lead, not blame Jewish and right-wing objectivism for the perfidy of that era, we should accept the right-wing and Jewish rendition of how the events of that time counted… none of this midt-dasein stuff... Men should be real men, confident, taking directives, like a few decades before, when “Hitler was just trying to rescue Poland from the Soviets” (remark snuck-in last 30 seconds) lol 93
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Posted by DanielS on Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:48 | # Hi GW, you might think that I am inclined to render some petty complaints about this piece. Not so. I’ve enjoyed it much, am digesting your fine understanding of the events of the times and their implications. At this point, I have taken the liberty of adding an image to your post. Please take it down if you think it is inappropriate. However, I thought it was appropriate for a number of reasons. It shows the emergent situation, some styles in the process of being thrown off, others being adopted, others in full bloom and relative consensus….how many White youths of the day were going along with a radical new way - the crowd shows people with really long hair and also some with styles from the previous era. Some happy-go-lucky. One guy stares at the apple that the “chick” next to him is eating. Others, as if coming out of the previous era taciturn, apprehensive of the need for the more careful worldview that you’d advise them to unfold with their revolutionary transformation.
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Posted by Dasein absent "midt" of social boundaries on Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:14 | # There was that authentic, organic motive - dasein (viz., therebeing) - to it and the stirrings of midtdasein (being amidst the bounded folk)...a background awareness that those boundaries were being impinged-upon. An awareness that conspiracy theorist, David McGowan, would obfuscate for a pay-off from the tribe - never mentioned in his theories, while he pointedly uses the word “racism” in his take on events of a time that barely used the word in common parlance; but tucked it into his theories anyway - oh so convenient to the tribe’s wish to keep White men in false consciousness - even using hypnosis techniques to obfuscate those true motives and his false motives.
...indeed it was there, a precious and real motive which needed but entirely lacked the sufficient intellectual and philosophical bearings from our European perspective, to explain and develop its full relation.. Looking forward to the next part GW. 97
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:19 | # I never got how the Altamount killing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qTKsylrpsg ... of a methamphetamine-crazed negro (ie, of a negro who took a gun and his white girlfriend to a badly organised free concert and made to shoot at somebody on stage during the Stones’ set) was supposed to signal the end of an era. It just looks like poor social commentary by people trying to big up their rep with a few portent-laden, historically definitive-sounding statements. Anyway, the biggest of all the festivals occurred the following year on the Isle of Wight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Wight_Festival_1970
Between 600,000 and 700,000 attended. The organisation failed and anarchy prevailed over the last 48 hours. But nothing happened, and nobody died. It was never repeated because it lost money. But Glastonbury began its operations the following year because of the excitement generated by the IoW festival, and that’s now an annual must for every ageing trendy liberal! They still smoke the odd splif and snort more than they ought. But they don’t “counter” anything. They are to be countered. 98
Posted by DanielS on Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:38 | #
Yeah, that (the part in bold) was a YKW media angle and it didn’t correspond with the organic form of the era which did not really start to lose impetus until about 1972-3, when the Vietnam war was over (over, at least in terms of conscription of Americans and full commitment from the U.S. Government). I believe they put that angle across to distract from (or because they did not care about) the fact that there were substantial issues for White men in the era as it is properly understood - against the background of their being subject to draft into that kind of war and their being expendable as such. 99
Posted by Wayfaring Stranger / John Barleycorn Must Die on Fri, 11 Dec 2015 10:26 | # A 1967 rendition by the group “H.P. Lovecraft” (named after Promethian and occult aficionado, H.P. Lovecraft), this psychadelic version of the folk classic “wayfaring stranger” is, in most respects, the best and most inspiring that I’ve ever heard ...but for one aspect: it speaks to universal brotherhood. Were it directed at a European, or ethnonationalist brotherhood, the authenticity of dasein’s midtdasein would perhaps have been captured accurately.
Steve Winwood and Traffic are responsible for the best version of another, much older, folk classic: “John Barleycorn Must Die”
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Posted by After The Gold Rush on Fri, 11 Dec 2015 11:09 | # Neil Young (no endorsement of his politics intended) inadvertently presaged the end of the era’s quest for “midtdasein”, in his song, “After The Gold Rush.” That is, after the baby boomer’s gold rush one might envision the muddy and barren fields of Woodstock piled with discarded sleeping bags, tents and debris. ...the baby boomers were as swarm of locusts, not articulate enough to grasp the true gem, the underlying motive that they had and partly manifest. Because it went without intellectual bearings, understanding or anchored concern, it went on to be buried by a crass version, rather the Judaized version of the other half of midtdasein, the female dasein within (rather without, for the Jewish interruption of) midtasein, an incommensurate but not irreconcilable motive to the motive of White men…only appearing to be irreconcilable because it was now directed by Jews - the White male motive being plowed under: rather than integrating or coordinating the White male (hippie) side of being’s motive with the female side, it was plowed under, the female side of motives amidst the actualization of motives pandered to relentlessly as the Vietnan War no longer didactically underscored the White male motive of rebellion toward its own authenticity in Being. ...it had become necessary, as Neil Young’s lyrics add, “to fly mother nature’s silver seed to a new home”... ..where is midtdasein.
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Posted by Plowed-under on Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:43 | # Plowed-under: the story of the boy who was killed at Woodstock.
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Posted by Not Weev, Not a Hippie but a Yippie on Sat, 12 Dec 2015 06:18 | # Not Weev, not a Hippie, but a Yippie 103
Posted by 4 way window of the times on Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:45 | # From the American side, these are four groups that had albums and songs that were very popular at the time for good reason: The Grateful Dead For those of you who found the whole cult surrounding and following The Grateful Dead repulsive (as I did) and them to be wildly overrated (as I did), I agree with you but there was a reason for it - i.e., they were the impromptu house-band that played at the original Haight-Ashbury “Be-Ins.” They became symbolic for that reason and their crowds brought the psychedelic sixties with them wherever they went - far more entertaining than the performers in the one show that I saw; besides a few good or catchy tunes here and there, they did nevertheless manage this one good album, one that captured the tenor of the times and worked for the context, anyway - particularly as it steers clear of messing with your head if you are in such a state where that is especially important. The Jefferson Airplane The Jefferson Airplane I have a good deal more respect for musically and in terms of creativity. This album, “Surrealistic Pillow”, is as emblematic of the times as any; and, if you have any affinity for that kind of music, is an entirely good album. Not their only good album, but this was the one that as much as any epitomized the times from their point of view - from its Haight-Ashbury epicenter. The caveat, of course, two Jewish members in the group. Even so, most of the music was not especially political and what of it was political, nominally, was so obvious and vague in its propositions that it could be set-aside and not taken seriously in those terms by a thinking person.
The Worst of Jefferson Airplane includes, of necessity, some songs from Surrealistic Pillow, but picks-up most of the rest of their better work - notably, as they move from those more innocent sounds and into even more rebellious, dynamic and intriguing realms of psychedelia. Another entirely good album. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young would be rightly criticized for their politics if you bothered to listen to them blather about those topics. But who does? This is another completely good album which captures the mood of the times - if not an understanding. Again, you should beware that the hippies themselves were not at all articulate as to what “their thing” was about. Crosby, Stills & Nash’s eponymous first album isn’t as rich (partly for absence of Young), but for some exceptionally rich cuts and an album which is good overall, it adds remaining essentials of their repertoire (except Ohio); with sufficient feel of the times. Speaking of Ohio, why aren’t there protest songs like that being written about what is happening to Whites? The Allman Brothers I mention this last album not because it was necessarily connected to those times. Though the Allman Brothers incorporated some psychedelic aspects, the timing was incidental. What makes them stand-out is that unlike most White guys who try to do the blues, they really could do it in a very soulful and authentic way (Winwood, e.g., here and here, was another, but I’m focusing on Americans now). I also wanted to point out this album, because, in my opinion, it is their only one which is entirely good, but it is very very good; a fact that is likely to be lost for a band that got way too much exposure to the point where anybody could roll their eyes and be bored at the mere mention of them. Still, typically, they did not necessarily get exposure for their best work - which was this album in its entirety. They play two of the songs live at the Fillmore East in the clip that I’ve included above, but the studio versions are better and all songs on the album are great. 1) Don’t Want You No More 2) It’s Not My Cross To Bear 5) Every Hungry Woman (great, but studio version not presently available on line). - Comment by DanielS 104
Posted by Hair on Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:25 | # Hair is the album of the times which most closely articulated hippie motives - but even it was much too vague where it did approximately articulate those motives; and in a few places, contains outright inauthenticies and affectations. I had to interpolate the male gender aspect of the hippie-thing from so furtive and trivial sounding a cut as “my conviction’ - a song that did not even make it into the feature-film movie version. “My conviction” was among other indirect clues from literature and events of the times that I had to put together to clearly see the contrast - viz., to identify the significance of hippies as a male motive, and the significance of their motive for Whites (as opposed to the Jewish obfuscation of their authentic motive which is all most tend to see) - by contrast to the female motives of the times in feminism; authentically White as well (though also obfuscated by Jewish meddling).
Walking in Space Doors are locked Lights low My body Red, black Purple, pink All the clouds are cumuloft How dare they try To keep us under foot In this dive Our eyes are open Hair - Walking In Space Lyrics | MetroLyrics Aquarius Hair Before one accuses me of getting effeminate here, consider that “confidence” is not only in counterbalance to “empathy” (a significant part of intelligence and distinctly White intelligence), but its obligatory marshaling can be paradoxic and contrary to authentic and organic motivation; to sufficient intellectual breadth and social-group responsibility/accountability - requisites of a racially conscious being. L.B.J. 105
Posted by David McGowan died on Sat, 19 Dec 2015 21:11 | # ..just learned that conspiracy theorist Dave McGowan passed away of cancer on Nov. 22, 2015.
His theories of the hippie times were off the mark in a very non trivial way, but its not like I’d wish him dead or anything. 106
Posted by Renegade ignores the MR take on 60s on Sun, 20 Dec 2015 08:19 | # Below is a review by the Renegade people (viz. Renegade tribune, Robert Heimdal - a.k.a. “Heimdaller”) from this 12 December. It came out a few days after GW’s post and my comments. This review also came out years, in some instances decades after my ideas, theories if you will, about the times. Here is just one example of my previous thoughts on the issues of the times: But there has always been a dishonesty and a dementedness about Renegade Broadcasting too; however, in their case the litmus test is not Christianity, but allegiance to World War II (specifically YKW - 88) and a conspiratorial angle. If you haven’t garbed your discussion and signaled your allegiance as such, apparently, you are not covering the matter from “a standpoint more akin to theirs”. In other words, they will try to bury it as “un-worth while” if not “untrue”.. no matter how careful and how good your understanding of the issue might be. Anyway, they liked McGowan’s BS theory well enough, except for its absence of their pet angles:
There has been good reason to dislike some people and what they are doing at Renegade. The way they tried to bludgeon mine and MR’s voice there being one* key reason. This “review” is just confirmatory.. ..since it came out a few days after this post and years after several of my discussions on the matter - which well pre-dated McGowan’s theories, even. * Another issue had to do with a couple of nasty side-kicks of Carolyn, who Kyle Hunt was incredibly cozy with. Anyway, as I said before: ..just learned that conspiracy theorist Dave McGowan passed away of cancer on Nov. 22, 2015.
His theories of the hippie times were off the mark in a very non trivial way, but its not like I’d wish him dead or anything.
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Posted by Ian ‘Lemmy’ Kilmister Motörhead on Tue, 29 Dec 2015 16:58 | #
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Posted by 2 Jefferson Airplaine fly on same day on Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:37 | # This would have been Kantner’s 75th birthday. While Signe was lead vocals for the Airplane before Grace Slick. Both died on the same day.
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Posted by crypis circa 1966 on Fri, 18 Mar 2016 01:38 | # How much more difficult it would be to even consider the matter at that time and place - 1966 America (San Francisco, California) - than today (with the Internet and some distance from WWII) 110
Posted by Kantner & Signe Anderson on Wed, 23 Mar 2016 00:02 | #
Written by Paul Kanter, “We Can Be Together” Great stuff…both songs capture the youthful euphoria of the times..
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Posted by 50th Anniversary of Love at the Haight on Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:11 | # Love at the Haight - American Experience: 50th Anniversary of the Summer of Love 113
Posted by Martha on Sun, 30 Jun 2019 21:22 | # THE STORY OF JEFFERSON AIRPLANE ( Told By Marty Balin / Jack Casady & Other Members ) 114
Posted by mancinblack on Sun, 30 Jun 2019 22:14 | # @113 The gig poster at 1.22 in the video features a painting by Franz von Stuck in the centre. It is known as “The Sin” and I have a framed print of it on my bedroom wall. Oh yeah. As for Grace Slick, you know if she turned sideways you couldn’t see her? she turned invisible? (lol) That voice out of that body. Amazing. She almost made America worthwhile. Almost.
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Posted by Be-In on Sun, 30 Jun 2019 22:26 | # Yeah, the late 60s hippie thing, the epicenter of which was in San Francisco, was something that America had and was eminently cool.. but unfortunately lacked the intellectual recognition and guidance of the depths of its significance… The other stuff of America and the world distracted and buried its significance as a result. However, it is a project - Being for White males (Dasein) as an integral part of social systemic homeostasis for White people (MidtDasein) that awaits rekindling, as important as ever - in fact, manifesting the very essence of our concern. 116
Posted by Sidney Gottlieb on Tue, 10 Sep 2019 08:47 | # The CIA’s Secret Quest For Mind Control: Torture, LSD And A ‘Poisoner In Chief...
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Posted by "Revolution Fatigue" on Sat, 08 Aug 2020 17:28 | # “Revolution Fatigue” - ramzpaul 5 Aug 2020: Daniel Sienkiewicz A White ethnonational left would not be in “revolutionary” mode where the interests of our union - a union of our people - are being served by those in power. If they are not, then we would seek revolutionary transformation so that the union of our European peoples are secured. This is a big difference between a White ethnonational left and the Marxist, internationalist left. When our ethnonationalist union is secured, we are no longer in revolutionary, transformative mode, but are, rather, elaborative and self corrective. Your understanding of “hippies” is idiotic. The Weather Underground were not hippies. The hippies were not Marxists in their essential motive; in fact, were notoriously frustrating to Marxist revolutionaries. It matters, because the adversaries of Whites love to blame hippies (because it was a fundamental and important motive on behalf of White male being / as opposed to their being considered so intrinsically valueless as to have to go to war in Vietnam, exploited for the custom, habit and tradition of their gender role as obligated to war (even in this case, where there was no clear and immanent danger; where there could have been other means of dealing with Vietnam rather than conventional war).
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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:41 | #
I was irritated by a moment in a recent “Truth Militia” broadcast, wherein a host asked “what did the hippies do besides sit around and take L.S.D.” Well, in the case of the hippies, the matter was not what they did but rather what they did not do – go to Viet Nam. Quite right.
...I would like to render that jpg file into a full fledged picture on the post..but am a little bit squeamish as I move around in there..