Posted by Brexit campaigners celebrate on Fri, 24 Jun 2016 06:23 | #

Upon the news of Brexit victory!

Posted by Morgoth on Fri, 24 Jun 2016 08:03 | #

Just popped in to wish you all the best!
A great day, lads, a great day.

Posted by Harmonizing native nationalism on Sat, 25 Jun 2016 07:40 | #

With England’s national coherence back on course, a symbol of protracted conflict between England and the continent appears rather like a harmonizing of nationalist purpose -

Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:40 | #

Regionally, the following table shows that London (by 60/40), Scotland (62/38), and Northern Ireland (56/44) were the successes for Remain.

... hence the demand for a second IndyRef by the SNP and for the unification of Ireland by Sinn Fein.

Just five out of twenty-eight areas in Greater London voted Leave, all on the periphery.

Overall, the immigrant populations of the UK were expected to vote 2:1 in favour of Remain, but voting levels were not expected to match that of the natives living among them.  Birmingham, the largest single count in the whole Referendum and close to a non-native majority now, just scraped in for Leave; 0.8% being the difference.  Leicester, the first English city to go majority non-native, voted for Remain; 1.1% being the difference there.  But Slough (Leave by 8.6%), Luton (Leave by 13%), and Bedford (Leave by 3.6%) - all majority non-native now - all did the right thing.

If turnout among the immigrant populations was relatively low (but not necessarily so and not uniformly so), it was also such among another predominantly Remain constituency, the young - although some 600,000 new voters were registered for the Referendum under a government initiative principally targeting the young.

There is no particular evidence of public sector employees weighting the vote for Remain.  They may well have done so, but they are probably spread too widely to be identifiable in the mass.

Perhaps a more striking feature was the character of the towns and cities which voted for Remain, and the high prosperity of the areas of the south and Home Counties which did likewise.  Prosperous county towns (Guildford, Lewes, Winchester), university towns (Oxford, Cambridge, Warwick, Manchester), towns that have received a lot of infrastructural investment and come up in the world (Manchester again ... Leeds, Cardiff),  towns that were always fashionable and chic (Tunbridge Wells, Bath, Brighton) ... there are narratives here, sometimes of a Blairish modernity, sometimes of old-school radicality, and sometimes of old money.

As individuals anyway, the young grow wise and a little less suggestible.  But the other broad Remain constituencies, especially the immigrant populations, the progressive intellectual elites, and those who profit in some way, socially, culturally, or materially, from the “modern” and cosmopolitan, urban lifestyle ... these form a bloc in society that weighs against the naturally-vested interests of the native people.  It is regressive and important, and sees itself as the future of this country “comfortable” with all that ails us.  Indeed, it has a symbiotic relationship with the modern urban space, both being formed by it and formative of it.  As white individuals these people are not necessarily all “liberal hipsters” (and are rather unlikely to see themselves in that way).  They are not necessarily all Guardian and Indy readers.  They are not necessarily political people at all.  They could be anywhere and nowhere on the political spectrum.  But they will always oppose our politics, and never comprehend our imperatives.

If we set aside the immigrants, it is this phenomenon that I did not fully consider in my thinking in the run-up to Thursday’s vote.  I, for one, have got to get a better grip on that.

Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:12 | #

To put all this into perspective, the vote for England tended to get lost in the way the electorate was structured.  But it was:

Leave: 15,188,406 or 53.4%
Remain: 13,266,996 or 46.6%

It is probably reasonable to assume that 22 million ethnic English voted, of which six in ten were Leavers.  The “problem child” of active voters for, in one way or another, the England we see about us today could therefore number 9 million tops.

Posted by haven on Sat, 25 Jun 2016 21:13 | #

The highest vote to Leave was in Lincoln, which has the highest proportion of Poles and other East Euros in the UK:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36616740

Posted by Helvena on Sat, 25 Jun 2016 21:26 | #

Congratulations Guessedworker!

Posted by Charles demands Islam respect West on Sun, 26 Jun 2016 06:03 | #

CT, “BREAKING: Prince Charles Makes Devastating Statement About Islam… Muslims Are Outraged”

While the President of the United States is seemingly taking the side of radical Islamists, and working to weaken and destroy the fundamental principles that Western civilization and society are built upon, other leaders are stepping up to lead the fight against the destructive and murderous ideology.

The United Kingdom’s Prince Charles is in the middle of a week-long tour of the Middle East, where it is expected that he will deliver a strong message to Muslim leaders regarding the prevalence and growth of the radical Islamist mindset.

According to Mad World News, the Crown Prince intends to demand that Muslim leaders in the U.K, and around the world, stop radicalizing young people, and to show some respect for Western culture and values.

[...]

He is also telling them that any Muslims who come to the U.K. need to abide by the English standards that are already in place, and stop trying to force their way of life on the people who were there before them.

“The radicalization of people in Britain is a great worry,” the prince told the BBC. “The extent to which this is happening is alarming, particularly in a country like our’s where we hold values dear.”

[...]

He has strongly denounced the atrocious actions of the Islamic State, and how they have slaughtered and exiled hundreds of thousands of Christians and Yazidis from northern Iraq.

Posted by PM on Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:34 | #

“Overall, the immigrant populations of the UK were expected to vote 2:1 in favour of Remain, but voting levels were not expected to match that of the natives living among them.  Birmingham, the largest single count in the whole Referendum and close to a non-native majority now, just scraped in for Leave; 0.8% being the difference.  Leicester, the first English city to go majority non-native, voted for Remain; 1.1% being the difference there.  But Slough (Leave by 8.6%), Luton (Leave by 13%), and Bedford (Leave by 3.6%) - all majority non-native now - all did the right thing”

That makes it sound as if Muslims were more heavily Remain than other minority groups. I’d love to know the ethnic breakdown of this vote.

I can see some possibilities why this would be the case: the fact that Asian Muslims are more highly polticised and have the social institutions and political infrastructure to be able to ‘whip’ their people into line when it’s needed, the possibility that they themselves are already strategising for the future in a way other groups are not, and the possibility that other minority groups, such as Hindus, are actually more concerned about Islamic immigration or other issues than they are about the advancement of their group.

I can imagine these question are important to Labour right now. They need to have reassurance about who their new constituency is going to be now that Scots and Northerers have been stolen by their referenda.

Posted by PM on Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:55 | #

This is how I described my feelings on facebook-

“Watching the news is like those clips of the Japanese earthquake in which the wall of viscous, brown water advances over the land, collapsing houses as if they were made of cards; toppling trees and telegraph poles as if they were matchsticks.

It is glorious. It is beautiful.

(and no, I don’t mean the earthquake)”

Posted by Jez Turner discusses Brexit with RBN on Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:50 | #

Jez Turner in an elated discussion of the Brexit victory with Jamie Kelso.

Posted by anon on Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:11 | #

The highest vote to Leave was in Lincoln, which has the highest proportion of Poles and other East Euros in the UK:

A key point here is the east coast has immigrants who can’t vote whereas the northern towns has ones who do - hence the highest leave votes on the east coast.

Posted by Jez Turner talks with Fetcho on Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:44 | #

Jez Turner talks with Dennis Fetcho about nationalism after Brexit.

Fetcho asks Jez about non-White nationalism.

This matter of coordination with non-White ethno-nationalism, specifically Asian, is one we hope to take up with Jez shortly.

Posted by Collett on Brexit efficacy on Sat, 01 Oct 2016 14:25 | #

David Collett on lack of follow up-on Brexit efficacy - Cameron and May have yet to invoke article 50

Posted by Britain to exit EU after 47 years on Fri, 31 Jan 2020 06:11 | #

Britain’s nine surviving permanent representatives of The EU reflect as The UK exits after 47 years.