Papal Worship As Babylonian Mystery: The Worship of Nimrod and His Mother/Wife

Posted by DanielS on Thursday, 07 March 2013 21:17.

In this fascinating narrative advanced by Scottish Theologian Alexander Hislop, all supra-scriptural practices instituted by Catholicism (naturally) are attributed to insidious expression of the evil Babylonian Mystery Religion:

Christmas, which should accurately take place in the Spring if scripture is to be faithfully demarcated, is thus a deceptive adherence to the Winter Solstice and Nimrod’s re-birthday – hence, an enactment of the Babylonian Mystery Religion. “True” Christians are being fooled in countless ways such as this, thinking that they are loyally engaged in a pure Christian tradition, when in fact they are really engaged in worship of the mystery religion as revealed by Hislop.

The way to counteract this evil infiltration and misrepresentation is to be found in true understanding of the texts.

One of the things preventing me from rendering this into a screenplay is that many on our side would see it as “a Jewish attack on Christmas and Christianity” wouldn’t they? That is among the double binds we are caught in and that keep us held with the Christian narrative, even where we do not consciously believe ourselves bound to the religion. We would supposedly be doing our people a disservice, while the devil’s bidding.

Adding yet another knot in the tangle is the argument that with the Christian texts already being the terms in which many of our people think, the currency for two thousand years now, there must be some ontological basis beneath, and we may as well find the positive logic to it for our purposes. However, with the texts being what they are, the motivations of the texts being as convoluted, Jewish and ambiguous as they were to begin, all that winds-up happening with the deciphering of our “true” logic behind Christianity is a contribution to the mess.

Hence, while I had originally meant for my next discussion to be directed toward the ontology project, I see now that it is necessary first to attend to pushing aside muck from the narrative side of our racial conceptualization, attending to where our narratives may speculatively overshoot and distract from adequate conceptualization.

The Hislop narrative is a story so fascinating that it holds sway over hundreds of millions of people. It forms the basis of The Jehovah’s Witnesses and The World Wide Church of God. It is a branch of Christianity that stems from a conviction in true exegesis, direct apprehension of the texts without the intermediary of the Catholic Church, from the same root that forms the basis of Christian Zionism and its tens of millions of adherents.

It is not exclusively legions of low I.Q. folks who are held captive. Even World Chess Champion Bobby Fischer found it captivating. Perhaps being a biological Jew, he unconsciously promoted The World Wide Church of God as it served the interests of Jews and Israel. Whatever his true motives, a man alleged to have a 187 I.Q. found The World Wide Church of God compelling enough to contribute significant money over several years.

Of course, getting to the “truth” beneath Christianity is a logical move to begin with, especially when you consider just how patently absurd it is at first glance while having held so many adherents for two millennia in spite of that.

Of marked significance for European history is this notion of direct apprehension and rendering of the truth of the texts - the reform of the Protestants. It may be hypothesized that this was based somewhat on reasonable prejudice (the need to maintain European distinctions) unreasonably expressed.

That is, for example, Germans wanting to be Germans or English wanting to be English and thus expressing this nonsense in a different way than before.

However, “truth” versus the evil mystery religion remains a compelling narrative despite being unreasonable; and the more it is beyond rationalization and account, perhaps the better it is a rally to thwart one’s adversaries and maintain a people’s distinctions.

Whether it serves our people’s interests or not, it is not easy to escape Christianity.

Not only is a moral order necessary, this one contains many double-binds, including one with regard to our mortal enemies: reject Christianity and you are as much as a Jew by Europe’s definition for two millennia: for we were Christendom. On the other hand, practice Christianity and you basically adopt the Jewish perspective: Rome and other impure Christians (other Europeans) are the greatest enemy and not just another European city and other European people. The Jews however are granted special status as a people who have not gotten it quite right just yet. Not to mention, ehem, look at who you are worshiping as god incarnate.

Jim has apparently found the story of uncovering the evil mystery behind Southern Europeans somewhat useful. Perhaps there is utility in cultivating this interpretation given the numbers of Northern European Christians in the Midwest of the U.S. or perhaps it is a remnant meme of the anti-Catholicism of endemic Christian-Zionism.

In this meme, anything but individual relation to the text and god is evil corruption. Perhaps it is a coincidence that individualists in relation to Jesus are not much challenge to Jewish Zionist authority.

Of course even people who believe themselves fully secular and freed from Zionism still experience Judeo-Christian influence in everything from habits, law, leisure and science – in particular, its relation of knower to known.

This Christian individualist relation to god was famously reinforced by the Enlightenment; in all likelihood only extended farther by the Cold War vilification of Marxist communist collectivization and furthered still by the Jewish interest of preventing Europeans from unionizing.

The double binds and toxicity of Christianity naturally become so poison after a while that they compel a convulsive, biological reaction, sometimes into collective defense such as Nazism, despite Christianity’s prescriptions. Nazism was in a sense, a purer form of Christianity yet, in another way still doing the Jews’ bidding, only culling the Jews, while attacking the “false worship” of European others; attacking White unionization in favor of a notion of supra-purity.

While a transcendent realm, beyond simple attack may even be necessary for defense of European peoples, one would hope that the prejudices between Europeans, which should exist to the extent necessary to maintain their distinctions, would not be beyond reason and beyond kindred, familial, brotherly or cousinly cooperation.

It is too bad that Hislop could not have just forthrightly proclaimed and found a way to maintain the Scottish distinction without doing the Jews bidding by rendering Southern and other Catholic Europeans the personification of Evil.

That isn’t to say there are not good reasons to maintain lines between European peoples, but when you are being equated with the Anti-Christ and Beast 666 (1) before tens of millions of idiots backed by The US/Israeli military industrial complex, that is a drag indeed.

We needn’t begrudge Northerners defending themselves, can even see their invocation of transcendent terms in order to do so, what is objectionable is this tradition of demonizing Southern Europeans, putting potential allies and buffering nations in jeopardy by vilifying them.

In Nordicist Christian theology, we should not be surprised but disappointed to find traces of Alexander Hislop’s motivational gobbledygook; i.e. a similar, convenient motivation to equate Rome and the South with evil.

If only Hislop could have said, we love being Scottish and wish to maintain all Northern European distinction. What European could, with any moral authority, reject that? None. No European could. There is an ontological difference that makes a difference between a Southern European and a Jew: The Jews could deny this, of course, they would say that we can do without the European differences. So too, could those under the Jewish spell and double binds of Christianity dispose of those differences; but it is the Jewish aspects of the narrative that compel that painful compliance. Christianity is a Jewish vexation and double bind to us all, not just Northerners – and it was not merely aimed to destroy Northerners, but primarily in fact, aimed at Rome. Thus, when Hislop and the Northerners tweak the Christian Narratives with their fascinating “exegesis” what they are doing is piling on the Southerners, destroying what remaining buffering capacity and natural defense they have against predators.

Haven’t we really had enough of this flight of fancy? Are we still to be blamed for the campaigns of Caesar and Nero? Do we still want to bicker about the historical impositions of Catholicism as opposed to the wonderful liberation of the Protestant Churches? Jesus, you guys want to drop the guilt trips about the Nazis. Fine – how about forgetting about Caesar and the Medieval Catholic Church already?

What is more sickening than a Northerner who says that he despises Southern Europeans so much that they can just drop dead but that Africans are OK?

Blacks are OK because we Northerners are so objective…we are not like those hot-tempered, prejudiced and collectivist Southerners who would be racists. No, our discrimination is based on the “purity of our interpretation.”

For Southerners are the people of the mystery religion, the Papal worship, of Nimrod and his mother wife.

A fascinating story and one that might be compelling to Northerners who don’t much care for Southerners.


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Whatever you believe, for your own good, don’t believe those who state, in hubris, that Blacks are fairly benign but misguided. Is criticism of Blacks really a diversion from Jews or is it a confrontation and correction of the Jewish misrepresentation of Black reality? Blacks are not natural allies against Jewish power when Jews are giving Blacks everything that they could never achieve on their own, including our women. One suspects that there is a measure of convenient pandering in the outlook: The “lower” Europeans are so uncouth but Africans are unproblematic, just misguided. Insulated in a technical niche, purblind up-in-their-heads or just disingenuous snobs, they would let the lower Europeans deal with the brunt and take the casualties from Blacks. Nevertheless, what insulation they have is temporary and precarious, especially without allies among Europeans..
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It was 1993 and the political correctness of the campus was becoming toxic for me. If there was any hope of my continuing on to be matriculated into the graduate program, my father himself was called upon to make a father and son trip to Italy with me to try to calm me down and bring me around. I played along, wanting the trip to Italy to be sure, but seeing it as a scouting trip upon a place I might have to go to escape from the insanity of America’s multi-cult.

At the airport, my sister had a confidential chat with my father, the kind she does when she approaches the bench in court; this time to quietly tell my father to tell me that “nobody agrees with you” – viz. with your racialist positions. Now, at that time, prior to the Internet, MacDonald and WN support, to hear that nobody agreed with me was toxic to the point of being poison. I was fighting this battle very much alone. At the very moment my sister quietly passed this advice on to my father, in the seating area nearby, an exquisite Italian girl was kissing her Negro boyfriend. Of course my father and sister were oblivious to this, a woman whom I would be happy to say was my wife, at least based on her looks to be sure. I seethed with the flagrant reminder that I needed to get out of America, to get to cultural backing and the genetic grounding that I did not have in America.

For it was already this statement, “nobody agrees with you”, that had produced one of my largest trances, one taking place in graduate class. It provoked a trance rage in me that had me lashing out at my professor and the class.

It was a level of pathology that my professor could not ignore. That must have been around the time that he called upon my father to have a conciliatory father – son vacation to Italy.

Prior to leaving, my professor wanted to relate an additional conciliatory anecdote, lest I be disappointed by the experience, he would let me down gentler still.

He told me about a book he’d read, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to The Universe. It is the story of a wanderer who travels all around and finally even to the planets. My professor asked me, “What do you think he came across when he arrived at a planet?”

He smiled when I guessed correctly, “a souvenir stand.”

Anyway, I did go on the trip to Italy with my father and I found his arguments of how I should not be a racist especially repugnant in light of all that I was up against and how obviously important our cause should be to a father: this was the opposite of conciliatory - infuriating, extremely insulting to the hard battle and academic work that I was doing to counter these popular sentiments so destructive to our people.

Obliviously, my father had related stories of how he testified before the Supreme Court that he “just wanted the same right of union access as anyone.” Jimmy Hoffa came looking for him after that; the FBI was stationed in front of our house for weeks to come. He told me that “there was a lot of fraternizing when Italy invaded the Somali land.” He told me “you weren’t raised to think like this.” Finally he said what for me were the magic, poison words, “nobody agrees with you.”

That was enough to have me fly-off the handle at him – enough so that he would all but cut me off from my inheritance; thanks to a chain of command: my sister and sister in law’s rank, their Jewish overlords pandering, of course. That episode set in motion right then, what would wind-up being an all too costly fight for my life a few years later.

To have some peace from one another, my father let me take the car and he stayed behind in our grandparent’s villages. I had a hankering to go to Sicily, Syracuse in particular – the antiquity and the thought of slinky, raven-haired beauties drove me on.

When I got there in the evening, I went to club Banacher, a mafia disco-tech with palm trees, outdoor swimming pools and elegant women who looked as if they’d walked out of the ancient gallery. The following night I caught a street-fair in Catania, where I saw some of the subtlest White beauties of my life. They were like so many wild flowers: their skin was White and their eyes were so beautiful, so subtle. I never was able to recapture a moment where a school of this type of women were so abundant; but I was grateful to have it confirmed for myself, just how beautiful these women could be.

The next day, I drove down to Syracuse and found a complex where three important historical artifacts exist adjacently.

There is a Greek Amphitheater where Aeschaelus, Sophocles and Plato had hung-out. There was the Ear of Dionysus, a cave where slaves were granted hope of freedom only by fighting as gladiators in the nearby Roman Coliseum. (I would only learn that part in my next trip there).

This time, first time, I came upon the Roman Coliseum and what did I see? Of course - a souvenir stand.

I walked in without cynicism and sat down alone in this, surprisingly small coliseum. I looked around. There was a lot of grass overgrowth and the edges of the rocks had been worn, rounded by the ages.

I saw the crenellations near the top, something diminutive about their spacing, the scale…something profound and important in the human scale had been rushed-by by America. I began to cry, then to sob. It was like nothing I’d experienced before. It was only partly grief, partly catharsis, partly the joy of revelation. It was as if my whole body was having an orgasm.


To think, my professor had prepared me for a let down.

...when I walked out past the old ladies at the souvenir stand, they were very upset, visibly shaken, not understanding why I had been crying so hard…

I can only interpret beyond the profound feeling that something important of scale was being tragically left behind, run over rough shod.

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Archimedes, a Siracusan, had lived nearby. His talents were brought to an end by an independently acting Centurion, one homicide that perhaps set European math and science back thousands of years.  In the ear of Dionysus, one could remain as a slave to the death or fight to the death as a gladiator in the improbable hope of gaining freedom. Our natural means of defending ourselves have been interrupted by the call to blind and dumb courage. Christianity is alleged to have been crucial in ending this wasteful practice. Though a highly flawed solution, I will argue that it was largely in good will that the Southerners attempted to bring it to the North - in order to put an end to the wasteful carnage of our people.

Among the gladiators, the fratricidal battles, the likes of Caesar contra the Gauls, Pickett’s charge and The Battle of The Somme will be looked upon the greatest evil. Among the corpses of these catastrophic avalanches burying our evolution, those surviving will resurrect and rebuild our authentic ontology.

Nay to any matriarchal thumbs down to our being: It is time to begin on the true ontological course of our co-evolutionary warrant in European Being.

In the undoing of these narrative Christian obfuscations, we are slowly making our way back to the possibility of ontological grounding.

We are getting ready to move our hermeneutic to a closer ontological reading:

What can we say of Europeans in their exemplars, their pursuit of truth, clarity to the point of empiricism even - about Epicurus in fact? an Archimedes? a da Vinci, a Galileo, a Newton, a Darwin, a Tesla, a Gödel, a Heisenberg?

Europeans as such are distinguished by their preference to attend to Augustinian Devils as opposed to Manichean Devils.

By “Manichaeism” I mean something very specific: changing the rules and deception in order to fool others; specifically Jewish trickery. Manichean Devils are a matter of trickery, deception and lies to defeat opponents. As opposed to Augustinian Devils, which are natural afflictions and challenges that, when solved, do not change once again in order to fool us. Augustinian Devils are matters of science, technology, truth, honesty, honor and tragedy.

In this Augustinian spirit was born the school of Epicureanism: the predecessor to empiricism which shunned superstition and sought to trace all to physical grounds.

It is characteristic of all Europeans not just Northerners, to prefer attention to Augustinian Devils as opposed to Manichean Devils. Augustinian Devils are a characteristically Southern European preference as well, the kind that was buried with the death of Archimedes, the Christian burial of the Epicureans, and the advance of the Jewish Manichean.

Jewish and Southern European aims are hardly one and the same. In fact, Jewish Manichaeism had successfully depicted Rome, their enemy, as the greatest evil, The Mother of all Whores, Wife of Nimrod, The Babylonian Mystery. (1)

However, Northern Europeans, especially, are by nature cooperative, non-tricksters. Confronted with the harsh elements, empirical and analytic questions were challenge enough. They could not have survived otherwise. The RESULT was that they became more individually strong, scientific and technological. Individualism was not the cause it was the effect of less competitive relations among them.

When we admire Northern Europeans, we admire them because they are decent and honest. We observe that decency and cooperation DOES NOT INTERFERE with the manifestation of our best exemplars – on the contrary, it allows for them and fosters them. And part of why it allows for them is that it does not compete with and destroy those who would buffer and support their existence.

Hence, their individuality and independence is afforded

…through a base of decency, cooperation, a respect for the processes and qualitative niches of their people.


For Northerners, seeking to render of themselves the heroes of the true Christian text, it is a “logical” step to see the Papacy as an expression of false religion. In fact, the Papacy is a folly of being entangled in the double bind of Jewish Christianity.

In respect of Rome versus the Jews Nietzsche was right – they won. However, other versions of Christianity offer little recourse from Jewish Manichaeism: rather they “offer” the divide and conquer of Europeans fighting among themselves, they “offer” our weakening by promoting individualist pursuit of the pure understanding and relation to the Jew in the sky, or to look upon the Jews as a specially chosen people. So long as the goal of a “pure” understanding of the texts does nothing to change the texts, reinterpretation of Christian texts offers no escape as they are inextricably tangled with Jewish interests and with our relative dis-empowerment.

Neither is the assessment of pernicious motive to the Southerner Europeans for extending Christianity to the North particularly accurate. The Jewish motivation, its Manichaeism that entangled Christianity to the point of making it toxic from its onset, despite any interpretation, does need to be separated from the Southern European motive. In attempting to extend Christianity, it was at least part of the Southerners’ motivation to seek relief from the military campaigns, the aforementioned routine carnage, the violent hostilities with “uncivilized” out-groups. Any people who were not Christians were seen as liable to re-enact the brutality. To some extent, hence, they sought a radical way back to their own cooperative ways - cooperative ways which must have existed in large part to begin with - and to find common moral order with Northerners. In fact, they sought to connect with something that the Northerners already had in spades and depended upon – decency and cooperation in the polity.

While the Jews purposes for advancing Christianity were deceptive, I doubt the Southerners’ motives for extending Christianity were egregious on balance.

It is time to tell a trivial difference from a profound difference.

It is the spirit of cooperation under-girding Europeans, the Europeans of the South and Northern kinds that will return us to our authentic ontology.

Our ontology, we’ll turn attention there next.

In summation:

Alexander Hislop’s story of the infiltration of the evil Babylonian Mystery Religion into expressions of Catholicism is a fascinating tale that holds sway over hundreds of millions world wide. It provided the groundwork for The Jehovah’s Witnesses, The World Wide Church of God and similar denominations. It is an offshoot of the Protestant conviction for the true exegesis, direct apprehension of the texts without the intermediary of the Catholic Church; this pursuit of the truth in highly ambiguous, Jewish motivated texts, forms the susceptible basis of Christian Zionism and its tens of millions of adherents.

It is not exclusively legions of the low I.Q. who are held captive. The likes of Bobby Fischer, 187 I.Q. and all, could be persuaded to contribute significant money over several years.

Getting to the “truth” beneath Christianity is a logical move when you consider just how absurd the texts are in the first place; then go on to wonder what are in fact, the logics behind which have held so many good-hearted people in adherence for so long.

However, of marked significance for European history is this notion of direct apprehension and rendering of the truth of the texts - the reform of the Protestants. It may be hypothesized that this was based somewhat on reasonable prejudice (the need to maintain European distinctions) unreasonably expressed.

 


(1) Apparently Nero was beast 666. Because the Jews could not speak in open terms to build resistance to overthrow Rome, they used a symbolic, codified manner of speaking in “The Revelation.”


Cryptically, the traditional, ancient enemies of the Jews, The Babylonians and Nimrod, were symbolically superimposed upon the later enemy of the Jews, The Roman Empire.

“Whether or not conceived as having ultimately repented, Nimrod remained in Jewish and Islamic tradition an emblematic evil person, an archetype of an idolater and a tyrannical king. In rabbinical writings up to the present, he is almost invariably referred to as “Nimrod the Evil” (Hebrew: נמרוד הרשע‎)”

 

 

 

 

 

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Comments:


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Posted by Firepower on Fri, 08 Mar 2013 02:36 | #

I just researched Kaballah.  Now there is some nonsense.

If Goddie can create the world, why should anybody “believe” in a Godd who can’t make a convincing, clear reason to LUV him.


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Posted by daniels on Fri, 08 Mar 2013 05:53 | #

I dig the groovy spelling of LUV

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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 10 Mar 2013 01:09 | #

Thank you very much for that, Daniel, which I enjoyed very much.

I don’t know what I can add to it.  Perhaps that divisiveness, north-south or otherwise, is a condition of humanity.  It isn’t just about actual difference or even a difference of opinion.  It is to do with a constructed tribalism ... with being something and not just nothing - certainly at the more local level.  Division gives form to false identity, which is better than no identity. It is, in the end, a sign of emptiness and of fear of emptiness.

In authentic unities there is no necessity for it, and we know an authentic unity by its shared truths.  To find the unity of north and south in Europe will take some “closer ontological reading”, that’s for sure.  It is a pity that Christianity, as flawed as it is from a European racial perspective, is undeniably part of the unity of north and south.  We are stuck with it, for it has been too close for too long to us - and the faithful must have their faith expressions, after all.


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Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 10 Mar 2013 01:36 | #

My ontology does allow for “Christianity” as opposed to “JudeoChristianity” but since I find so few self-proclaimed “Christians” who will accept the true superiority of European culture, which was preserved the longest in northern Europe against the dragons, vipers, snakes, serpents, worms, giants and dwarves from north Africa and the Levant—for obvious reasons of geography and climate—I find little use for the term “Christian”.  They’re all JudeoChristian as far as I’m concerned and they are damned to the Hell they create.

The two-sided coin of Judeo-Christianity was deftly flipped from side to side during the destruction of European culture—the Christ side being the “protein coat” with which the parasite got past the immune system by identifying with the individual standing in direct relation to Nature and Nature’s God as descendant against the theocratic corruption that demands obeisance to the “spirit of the age” of the body politic rather than the Holy spirit of the body descended from the Father.  The Vikings, true to that spirit within, held out the longest and understandably viewed with utter contempt JudeoChristianity as well as “kings” such as Olaf the Lawbreaker who roamed the countryside with a group of armed men—a dragon of JudeoChristianity in a land where dragons were outlawed.

It is unfortunate that as much as Brits identify with George the Dragon Slayer, they have swallowed, hook, line and sinker, the JudeoChristian mutilation of his deeds.

There is a practical side to ontology:

Using animal imagery allows access to deep brain structures forging coherence between our waking consciousness and our unconscious strength as animals.  It is best not to even perceive “people” like Tim Wise, Barack Obama, etc. The dragon exists as a whole agency and its parts do not possess anything our subconscious should recognize an identity apart.


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Posted by DanielS on Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:09 | #

Thanks GW and Jim, appreciate your comments.

I have been trying not to comment too much while discussion of native British politics is going-on.

John Lee Barnes made some interesting comments. The Weston video and his new party seem to commend attention as well.


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Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:41 | #

Sharing DanielS’s expressed concern, I made the discussion of native British politics the top story on MR’s home page in recognition of its relative urgency despite comments in other threads.

Perhaps Southerners would be wise to reflect on the Roman law broken by Julius Caesar’s crossing of the Rubicon.

The analogous northern European law was to kill all dragons—regardless of origin—roaming their lands.  Indeed, given that there was nothing, in northern Europe, akin to the Roman class system resulting in the corruption of the Patricians that provided the military with motive to follow Julius Caesar’s order to cross the Rubicon, the hostility toward the likes of Olaf the Lawbreaker’s dragon (not to mention invading dragons from foreign lands) is most understandable.

Moreover, the final days of Mark Antony saw him attempt to appeal to the Old Law of single combat which evidences the true heritage of European culture was still held in at least enough esteem to be used as a political ploy, even in Rome at that late date—albeit degraded from the Natural Duel embodied in the notion of isolation implied by “go to the island”.  That the Italian city states continued to honor the degraded form of the Natural Duel well into the JudeoChristian era, at least among the nobility, is further evidence the spiritual oppression of Europe did not entirely destroy all vestiges of its authentic culture.


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Posted by Kevin on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:39 | #

Southerners are degenerate:

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/04/susan-sontag-why.html

It’s kind of like Paul Johnson’s unkind revelation (p. 253) of what Picasso’s special secret sauce was that made him so popular with gay critics, gay promoters, and gay collectors. Picasso was muy macho, but in the Mediterranean mode, and was not above rewarding a good review personally. A commenter supplies the quotation from Johnson:

  “His appeal to homosexuals, especially those who enjoyed the passive role, was even stronger; he seemed a small, fierce, thrusting tiger of virility. Picasso himself was overwhelmingly heterosexual by inclination. But in the culture from which he sprang there was no disgrace to his manhood in taking the active role to satisfy a needy “queen,” to use his expression.”


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 02:51 | #

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“Indeed, given that there was nothing, in northern Europe, akin to the Roman class system resulting in the corruption of the Patricians that provided the military with motive to follow Julius Caesar’s order to cross the Rubicon, the hostility toward the likes of Olaf the Lawbreaker’s dragon (not to mention invading dragons from foreign lands) is most understandable.”


I rather wish Caesar hadn’t gone to battle against the northerners. However, he was not initially sent by the Senate to fight against the Gauls with the idea that he was going to win; or even that he should win. They sent him there because they thought he was going to be killed. The Gauls were thought to be unbeatable. He was sent on a suicide mission. The Senate wanted to be rid of Caesar.

At any rate, I hardly feel guilty about Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon.

Moving to a more recent example, it would seem that when Hitler betrayed the brown shirts on the night of the long knives in favor of oligarchic backing for more aggressive designs, there may have been a comparable form of corruption to deals with the Roman Senate. 

I don’t try to make people feel guilty about Nazism; and I hope that others will not to try to lay guilt trips on me about the siege of Troy, Caesar’s Campaigns or The Catholic Church’s aims; nor do I feel responsible and guilty for the battle of the Somme; or about Poland for fighting for their nation or how Stalin drew the borders.

Among many ideas that I admire, single deadly combat has not become one of my favorites, it rather strikes me as a wish to return to modern or pre-modern conditions.

We can agree the vast armies allied in carnage against one another European are a catastrophic mistake. I can also agree that the prohibition, the loss of our warrant to defend our women and turf as individuals is crucial. That is an incisive focus of yours.

However, for whatever loss that may have come about to the practice of single deadly combat through Caesar’s military success, rather than trying to put that toothpaste back in the tube, I’d rather look for new ways to defend our lands and people; ways that fit our needs in the circumstances as they are.

Even if duels are a pure form for keeping Euroman ontologically proper, I doubt single deadly combat will become popular again. Nevertheless, inasmuch as you are able to garner support for a nation where that becomes the rule, my hats off.  You know that I am not going to invade nor will I try to stop anyone who wishes to participate in that system.

I believe there are other ways of achieving much the same ends as you wish.

Nor do I believe that models quite so reductionist capture what it means to be European.

Perhaps it could be applied as one difference in emphasis between proto-Euroean and northern European - maybe fleshing out those lines rather than European non-European.

Not many people consider Ancient Greece and Rome non-European peoples. Nor do I.

That said, yes, it is a good time to let current native British concerns take precedence over gripes about European history.


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 03:49 | #

Others argue that the insidious nature of the civilized people vis-a-vis the barbarians was less about Christianity (at least the Germanic syncretic version) and more about the “moral menace of Roman law”...

But nineteenth-century scholars also developed other, less-familiar arguments about the consequences of Roman “property absolutism”—arguments that focused not on the socioeconomic impact of changes in property law, but on the moral impact, on the impact of changes in property law upon the prevailing sense of one’s moral duties to others. Beginning in 1828,(20) legal historians began to argue that the spread of Roman law had resulted, not merely in a redistribution of resources, but in changes in fundamental attitudes about trust and social duty. As one leading 1853 book put it, Roman and “Germanic” property law were informed by fundamentally different “basic intuitions [Grundanschauungen] about rights, freedom, and honor,” and the tale of the spread of Roman law was the tale of how Roman intuitions had penetrated Germanic “legal consciousness.”(21) Scholars who worked along these lines generally argued that because Roman property rights were not limited by obligations of trust or duty, the spread of Roman law encouraged an exploitative, antisocial, and “unbrotherly” attitude toward the world. The most famous technical version of this claim came from Otto von Gierke, who maintained that the psychic basis of Roman property law lay in the exercise of unfettered “will,” whereas the psychic basis of Germanic law lay in the “morally bound will.” Because Germanic law approached the social world in this “morally bound” way, Germanic law was “communal” where Roman law was “individualistic” and capitalistic.(22) The same line of argument also had a formative influence on some of the classic thinkers of early sociology—in particular on Ferdinand Tonnies, who built a powerful theoretical apparatus around the idea that commercial “society” was founded on a different form of “will,” and different attitudes toward property, from those of precommercial “community”:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+moral+menace+of+Roman+law+and+the+making+of+commerce:+some+Dutch…-a018373247


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Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 05:49 | #

DanielS writes: “At any rate, I hardly feel guilty about Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon.

I don’t understand the motivation for this comment at all.

Please elaborate.


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Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 05:55 | #

DaneilS writes: “Not many people consider Ancient Greece and Rome non-European peoples. Nor do I.

Its clear from the equisitely carved busts their phenotypes are European genotypes.

When I talk about European culture, I am talking about the artificial selective pressure based on transmissible values and norms that evolved the European genotype.

As I will never tire of pointing out:  Unless you are very specific about your artificial selective criteria you are not fully human in that you are not taking responsibility for your role in evolution thence creation.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:26 | #

Desmond Number 9. Good post. If the Germanic tribes’ way of handling property had better results, i.e. if it was more responsible and moral, then it would be worth moving future treatment of property in that direction.


Posted by James Bowery on March 11, 2013, 12:49 AM | #

DanielS writes: “At any rate, I hardly feel guilty about Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon.”

I don’t understand the motivation for this comment at all.

Please elaborate.


The motivation, hmm. Well, I think it has to do with a strong emphasis in discussions of north and south Europe, efforts to arrive at a true meaning of European and, a strong inclination to draw absolute lines on the pejorative impositions of the south, particularly Roman civilization. I get the sense that the campaigns and impositions of Rome should confer such guilt upon southern Europeans that even now they are beyond moral computation in the consideration of Euroman.

Rather, I agree with you - I’d rather Rome not have engaged these campaigns. I don’t take pride in their having gone around killing other Europeans and destroying their cultural differences.

Just the opposite. Rather, I am all ears and open to ideas about more favorable ways of doing things in our defense - which always includes maintaining our differences, of course.

I become concerned when this distinction , north and south European, is put in symbolic terms beyond reason and with that, when the southerners are lumped with Jews and Africans.

It seems to me a begging of the question: that these symbolic terms and emphasized demonizing of Roman influence may be an influence of Jewish motivations making their way through the Jewish/Christian text. Their demonizing of Rome as the greatest evil, their new Babylonian captors. That is, a bit more of a habit and received tradition than a fresh hypothesis. It is the Jewish influence especially, their wish to demonize Rome, which is most relevant to my skepticism of the hard line against the south. By making the Pope into the dragon or rather, Nimrod, Talmudic aims of divide and conquer are being served.

That is why I am especially wary of anti-Roman emphasis, to not be made to feel guilty.

Whether Caesar crossed the Rubicon, ruined the Gauls, was humiliated by Armenius in ancient history, I see important contemporary reasons for emphasizing the antagonistic differences between Southern Europeans, Jews and other non-Europeans; and emphasizing the rationale for cooperation between North and South: much as I do understand and appreciate your wish to protect Northern European differences, the Southerners should feel much the same in wanting to maintain European distinctions.



Posted by James Bowery on March 11, 2013, 12:55 AM | #

DaneilS writes: “Not many people consider Ancient Greece and Rome non-European peoples. Nor do I.”

Its clear from the equisitely carved busts their phenotypes are European genotypes.

When I talk about European culture, I am talking about the artificial selective pressure based on transmissible values and norms that evolved the European genotype.

As I will never tire of pointing out:  Unless you are very specific about your artificial selective criteria you are not fully human in that you are not taking responsibility for your role in evolution thence creation.


Well, Ok. We’re getting to that. Next post we’ll have another go at it.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:07 | #

Posted by Kevin on March 10, 2013, 07:39 PM | #

Southerners are degenerate

Kevin, undoubtedly there is no such thing as a northern faggot.

If Picasso was a fudge-packer what can one say but EEEUUU!

Aside from that,  I must say that I don’t know of other White Nationalists besides myself, who actually like modern art. Take in a Gauguin exhibit if you ever get the chance. Race-mixer though he was, a helluva painter (not that art is ever worth race mixing).


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Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:01 | #

DaneilS, I understand how, particularly in the context of your view that I am a “Nordicist”, you would impute the meaning to “Crossing the Rubicon” that you do.  However, that is not how I meant it.  I used it in its historically accurate meaning of the idiom.  Please read that link and go back to reinterpret the words involving my first reference to the idiom in this thread.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:38 | #

Ok, I got your point. Though I had thought I understood the cliche, “crossing the Rubicon”, I did not.

I had thought it meant merely going onto new campaigns, to new endeavors, in that case, Northward.

What it actually means in in literal terms, and what you meant by it, was to go against State permission and initiate Civil War.

Apologies for the misunderstanding.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:49 | #

I don’t know if it helps a whole lot, but it does occur to me that the place in this post where I was critical of you was a bit too mean.

I’ve tried to soften it by rewriting it like this:

“Jim himself, apparently has found the story of uncovering the evil mystery behind Southern Europeans somewhat useful. Perhaps there is utility in cultivating this interpretation given the numbers of German Christians in the Midwest of the U.S. or perhaps it is a remnant meme of the anti-Catholicism of endemic Christian-Zionism.”


It is still not particularly nice, but I think it represents the provocation for the whole post.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:08 | #

Finally I replaced “German Christians”

with “Northern European Christians”

I really hate when I feel compelled to defend European differences. I want to be defending all Europeans.

Though I do agree the national and regional distinctions are very important.


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Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:06 | #

DanielS writes: “What it actually means in in literal terms, and what you meant by it, was to go against State permission and initiate Civil War.”

More to the point, there was a Roman conception of “peace” that involved the Greek idea (perhaps somewhat mutilated in the adoption) of a “Republic”, and that there was no place for Kings anywhere near the homeland—not foreign kings nor domestic kings.  This Greek ideal of the Republic, degraded as it might have been in pre-Caesar Rome, had a good deal of the authentic European about it, and it is why I consider the US Constitution to have been somewhat of a recovery of the authentic European culture.  However, in the case of the Greeks as with others in close contact with the Levant and north Africa, there was a continual corrosive action from an opposing culture of groups as the target of selective pressure.  Over time this breeds for a different type of human—a human that is not properly thought of as an organism but as an organ.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:34 | #

...
You seem to be looking only at the possibility of assimilation by proximity.

It seems to me that anti-bodies and buffering qualities would also evolve in proximity to the Levant and Africa.

...also an increased acuity and vigilance to these differences.


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Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:08 | #

Of course, as I myself have have often repeated in my “attacks” on southern Europeans—as well as on Germans (in the modern nation state sense of that word) relative to, say, Norwegians during WW II.  This applies to Jews relative to others in the middle East and is the basis for my predictions of “pan-Western Fascism” during the 1990s leading up to my prediction of a Reichstag-fire type fabrication around the turn of the millennium.

The problem with such immune responses are two fold:

1) They tend to take the form of group selectionism.

2) To the extent that they don’t take the form of group selectionism, they must be consciously conspiratorial if not outright militaristic—both of which are subject to moral censure by the “civilized”.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:02 | #

....

The problem with such immune responses are two fold:

1) They tend to take the form of group selectionism.

That would make a certain amount of sense. And I was eager to point out the likelihood that Northern individualism was a product growing out of a cooperative basis - they were more up against the elements than against collectivist groups and therefore develop in a good way as individuals. But it is also possible to exaggerate the extent of Southern collectivism; also to exaggerate the extent to which it is bad and the extent to which northern individualism is good.

2) To the extent that they don’t take the form of group selectionism, they must be consciously conspiratorial if not outright militaristic—both of which are subject to moral censure by the “civilized”.

There may also be a evolutionary psychological aspect to this immunity - just something that you are disposed to do as an organism. A healthy revulsion that say, the northerner might not understand so intuitively: “how could you be so racist?”

While I don’t think it necessarily has to express itself as conspiratorial or militaristic, I do think it is an excellent uncovering and focus of yours that these qualities of defending ourselves, our women and land as individuals - which I firmly believe exist in the Southerners as well, totally natural - have been prohibited by conspiracy, by Jewish conspiracy, and that’s the crucial problem - very good point.

But I believe blame lies far more there, with Jews, than with civilization. While civilization may want you to stop short of duels to the death, it should not be averse to doing what it takes to discourage foreigners from settling and making unjust claims on our resources and genetic stock.

I do admit though, that the rigor of your thinking points to something there: that which is sufficient to be discouraging has not generally been known as a part of European civilization. I believe, however, that it can and should be introduced as customary practice.


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Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:23 | #

I use the phrase “consciously conspiratorial” to contrast it against the “instinctively conspiratorial” which is the symptom of group selection—of organisms functioning as organic, rather than conscious, organs.  These organic organs comprising a group organism are not subject to moral censure because of their “plausible deniability” in pretending to be organisms—individuals.  These pseudo-individuals can then morally censure real individuals who must consciously act to defend themselves against the group organisms.

The big lie of civilization is that it is “natural selection” and so long as you place your definition of culture after other priorities, you are joining with them in your denial of responsibility for your part in Creation—responsibility that comes with Man’s authentic Being.

It is a mistake to castigate me for attacking “southerners” and defending “northerners” when what I am actually doing is defending the culture that produced both and is in eternal and mortal conflict with its ancient enemy that, at present, has the upper hand by pretending to hold the moral high ground in our minds.  We cannot dispel the pretense to moral superiority by adopting or even mixing the enemy culture.  We must never confuse the morality of joining forces to create a temporary group force with the “morality” of group selectionism lest we end up sacrificing our value.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:48 | #

Posted by James Bowery on March 11, 2013, 05:23 PM | #

I use the phrase “consciously conspiratorial” to contrast it against the “instinctively conspiratorial” which is the symptom of group selection—of organisms functioning as organic, rather than conscious, organs. 

OK

These organic organs comprising a group organism are not subject to moral censure because of their “plausible deniability” in pretending to be organisms—individuals. 

That makes good descriptive sense of Jews. They believe their own BS.

These pseudo-individuals can then morally censure real individuals who must consciously act to defend themselves against the group organisms.

Because their immorality is largely or partly opaque to themselves…OK.

That makes sense of what I see in them, listening to a Paul Wolfowitz, for example.


The big lie of civilization is that it is “natural selection”

Well, you are going by EO Wilson’s campfire definition of civilization whereas I am going on something like a social rules model which is more flexible and adoptable through internal relation: preferring persuasion to force as per Plato’s definition.


and so long as you place your definition of culture after other priorities, you are joining with them in your denial of responsibility for your part in Creation—responsibility that comes with Man’s authentic Being.

I don’t think that I am denying responsibility for creation, on the contrary. I will demonstrate this.


It is a mistake to castigate me for attacking “southerners” and defending “northerners” when what I am actually doing is defending the culture that produced both

OK, well, I’ll try not to be castigating, but I am aiming to get all of European allied in this effort. I’m not advancing assimilation. I do imagine there is a possibility say, on your laboratory of the states model, to allow for some people to experiment with more “civilized” ways and some to have more tribal, aboriginal European ways. It would be my ideal to allow for both. The choice may be almost paradoxically necessary, in fact.

and is in eternal and mortal conflict with its ancient enemy that, at present, has the upper hand by pretending to hold the moral high ground in our minds.

I believe there is this enemy. However, I’m not sure that proto Europeans were not a little more cooperative nor that they were valueless if they were. Even if they were more cooperative, their way of life is defensible in a non conflictual way along with more individualistic cultures.

We cannot dispel the pretense to moral superiority by adopting or even mixing the enemy culture.

Ok. That is what had me suggest that proto European tribes (as opposed to Aryans) may have been largely cooperative with one another; more, that the instinct to defend women and territory is not necessarily some sort of evil group metabolism but a normal response to a very different kind presuming to impose himself.


  We must never confuse the morality of joining forces to create a temporary group force with the “morality” of group selectionism lest we end up sacrificing our value.

Ok, I’ll buy that. It is a subtle enough point however, that will probably require both redundancy and recontexting in other narrative in order for it to resonate a little more.

You’ve got me a bit confused. I don’t think I am acting on behalf of the group, as a group conduit in particular, when I want to dissuade a negro for example. While imposition deeply offends my sense of what is good and just, I experience quite acutely that I am having to act against social pressure.

However, if the social rules were different and recognized a moral order serving our interests that could make a huge difference. Hence, I believe your thrust is doing important good in consciousness raising, pointing to this prohibition on individual male initiative and the evil, phony moral superiority on which this prohibition rests.


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Posted by Joe on Wed, 13 Mar 2013 01:11 | #

You all can heap scorn on the Catholic Church if you like, but it was the devout Catholics in Germany and Italy who were greatly opposed to Nazism/Fascism. If Hitler and Mussolini listened to the devout Catholics in Europe, the giant internecine war we call World War Two could have been averted. The war left tens of millions of white Europeans [ I include Americans and Canadians, etc] dead.

In the meantime the Rockefellers [ a Jewish family] pumped billions of dollars into nazi Germany— hence the nazi “economic miracle”, while millions of whites died in the internecine conflict.

We, the members of the White Race, lost those who died in the war, but we also lost all the white children who will never be born into the world because so many whites lost their lives before siring/conceiving children. It’s an Eternal Loss for the white race.

In the meantime the Jews survived the war with minimal loss—relative to everyone else—and went on to have even more power after the war than the jews had before the war—which is saying a lot.

Devout Catholics were opposed to Nazism/Fascism. The White Race would be in a much stronger position today if the devout Catholics held sway. Instead, devout Catholics—qua devout Catholics—were thown into the Jewish-owned & Jewish financed IG Farben work camps and brutally murdered—qua devout Catholics, they were brutally murdered in nazi occupied areas of Europe.

Read Anthony C Sutton’s, “Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler pdf “.

“Conjuring Hitler pdf ” by Guido Preparata.

Read Bryan Mark Rigg’s, “Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers”.

Read Dietrich Bronder’s, “Hitler Bevor Kam English Translation”. The search term will access Bronder’s book at “Scribd”.

Read the 1945 US War Dept Report to Congress concerning IG Farben/Hitler/Nazi Party. Hitler Never investigated who owned/who financed the very corporation that put him into power : The Jewish-owned IG Farben.

It’s in the 1945 US War Dept Report. Go to, “profit-over-life.org” to read the complete report. It’s in the Congressional Records.

The devout Catholics in Europe were opposed to Nazism/Fascism.


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Posted by Joe on Wed, 13 Mar 2013 04:35 | #

Excuse me, I made an error. The title of Dietrich Bronder’s book is : “Bevor Hitler Kam”, not ” Hitler Bevor Kam”. I was typing too fast.

The Search Term : “Bevor Hitler Kam” will access the book at “Scribd”.

Bronder details the immense role Jews and satanic Freemasons played in creating the Third Reich.

” Bevor Hitler Kam” is German for, “Before Hitler Came”. Bronder wrote the work in 1975. It was published by Geneva Press, but very soon afterwards was banned in Europe. His work can be read at “Scribd” website.

It was banned for the truth it contains.

A good website to learn how the “Aryan history/myth” was conjured up in the Freemasonry Halls of 19th century Germany is “dyinggods” , a good starting point in learning how the Aryan myth was started.

Th same group of satanic Freemasons gave us both the “Aryan Myth” and the “Zionist Myth”. The two go hand-in-hand. The “Aryan” myth of history gives power and credence to the Jews’ “narrative” concerning nazi Germany. The fact is : No one ever heard of an"Aryan Race” in Europe until towards the end of the 19th century.

The fact is : Jews created the Third Reich.

The fact is : Hitler was Not an Aryan. There is no such thing as ‘Aryans”, only Caucasians.

There’s some evidence, in fact, that Hitler was part Jew himself. Search Term : ” Hitler Was A Jew Himself “.

The fact is : Whatever Hitler was, his family history, blood-line, heritage, is shrouded in mystery.

The fact is : Hitler was a satanist, as were all the leading, top nazis [ The Thule Society ]. Hitler was mentored in satanism by Dietrich Eckart, one of Europe’s leading satanists during WW1. Eckart took Hitler “under wing” in 1919. When Eckart died in 1923, another leading satanist—and Jew—Hanussen stepped in to be Hitler’s handler. Hanussen was murdered in 1933. I don’t know who stepped in after Hanussen.

Hitler dedicated “Mein Kampf” to Eckart. “Kampf” means “struggle” in German. In effect,Hitler dedicated his “struggle” to satanism—to satan.

Hitler made a big stink about breaking ties with Jewish banks, but he never got around to telling the German people IG Farben—the corporation that put him in power—was Jewish owned and Jewish financed, including financing from the Rockefellers [ in the billions of dollars] and the Bush family here in the States.

To those whites who are so enamored with “Aryan history and myth”, I ask you respectfully to re-think. The Aryan myth was conjured up in 19th century German Freemasonry. The Jews use the Aryan myth as a tool against us. It’s that much more difficult to tell the truth about the huge role of Jews in creating nazi Germany when so many whites are enamored with Aryan myth.

The lies about the 6 million dead in the concentration camps is not the only lie concerning nazi Gemany. The jewish/zionist “narrative” about nazi Germany is a lie from the very beginning to the very end, and everything in-between.

Those whites who perpetuate Aryan history/myth are giving the Jew/zionist lies about nazi Germany power and credence. The fact is : Jews created nazi Germany.They use their Jewish “narrative”—which most definitely includes the “Aryan myth of history”—as a bludgeon against us. In the meantime, the ” history and myth of the Aryan Race” was conjured up in the satanic Freemasonry Halls of 19th century Germany .

Freemasonry being owned by the satanic banking ruling-class. The Freemason leaders are jews—and satanic jews,too boot, and those non-Jews in Freemasonry—at least on high levels—are satanists also. That’s where the “history and myth of the Aryan Race” comes from.

The myth of the Aryan race only gives the Jewish “narrative” of nazi Germany power and credence. I ask all my fellow whites to get educated as to how the Aryan “story” came about, and please re-think your viewpoint.

The Jews use the whole “nazi Germany narrative” against us, not just the concentration camp aspect of nazi Germany. Yet, it was Jews who created nazi Germany in the Very First Place.There were lots of jews in the nazi party/military.

Devout Catholics during WW2, by the way, never believed in the"Aryan Myth” and never bought into Hitler and Mussolini were out for what’s best for the white race. Quite the opposite.

I’m talking devout Catholics during WW2, not nominal Catholics, and not Catholics on high levels of government, necessarily.

By the way, devout Catholics never “worshipped” the popes, or any pope. Devout Catholics always took their popes with a grain of salt. It’s the “novus ordo” Catholics today who make such a big stink about papal worship.

The search term : ” Vatican Threatened With Nuclear Attack During 1958 Papal Conclave” will access a lot of information concerning the Vatican II “novus ordo” Church : “new order” as in New World Order.

Interesting tid-bit : Eckart took Hitler “under wing” in 1919, the very same year IG Farben was incorporated and formed. The Rockefellers [ a Jewish family] was there from the very start getting IG Farben rolling.

From : Joe


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Posted by Joe on Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:35 | #

Abridged from the Jewish mainstream narrative of history, and likewise abridged from the WN “Aryan” narrative of history, is the story—the history—of devout Catholics.

The Vatican was always a type of nexus for all the various powers in the world. The Vatican has always been corrupt, and full of intrigue. Still, in the past, there was some room for devout Catholics. Their influence in the Church only benefited the White Race. Their influence, whatever power they did have, was never used to harm the White Race.

Slavery, for example, was against Catholic law. The law was passed by the Church in the year 514. It was Catholic law, and it was the law because of devout Catholics. Throwing any group of people—of any race - into slavery, was against Catholic law.

When the New World was discovered, the Medici controlled Pope—Pope Nicholas V—broke devout Catholic law and made slavery legal. The Borgia and other Medici popes who followed supported the slave system in contrast to true Catholic law. The Borgias and Medicis were both descendants from Jews. They were Jewish families. Both families favored the Jewish way of doing things. They were not truly Catholic. As usual, the devout Catholics were shoved aside, and devout Catholic law was over-turned.

The Protestants rebelled against the Catholic Church, yet they too made slavery legal.

If the devout Catholics held sway, the blacks would have been left alone, and would have stayed in Africa. We now have a huge population of feral blacks in our midst. If devout Catholics had controlled the Vatican, the blacks would still be in Africa. If devout Catholics had their way back then, the New World would have been populated by white Europeans—and white Europeans only.

If devout Catholics held sway in the 20th century, the two world wars would have been averted. The wars cost the white race about 70 million dead whites, plus all the white children who will never be born into the world—an Eternal Loss for our White Race.

We—qua white Caucasians—“genocide” ourselves more than any other race, including Jews, do. The Jews in the Soviet Union killed millions of devout white Orthodox. The Jews had plenty of help from whites who disdain God and The Faith.

The NWO/Freemason folks would not have been able to point to the paucity of whites as an excuse for massive immigration into white countries from the third-world. As usual, the Jews led Europe to internecine war, and so many non-Jew whites who disdain The Faith followed the Jewish way. Devout Catholics were opposed to both wars. There’d be millions and millions of whites in the world today, and our white countries would not be swamped with third-world enemies of the White Race, if devout Catholics held sway. Again, we lost all the white children who will never be born into the world because of the two giant internecine wars we call WW1 and WW2. 

What passes for Catholicism today is a very diluted, usurped, and undermined Faith. Very few truly understand devout Catholicism.

Another quick example : It was devout Catholics who led the battle against Muslim/Turkish/Berber invasions of Europe throughout history. It was devout Catholics who saved Europe from Islamic satanism. Islam is based on satanism, just like scofeld-type “christianity” is, just like “aryanism is. The devout Catholics only served to save the white race in Europe, at least until they were swamped by whites who disdained The Faith, and turned to the Jews for guidance.

Devout Catholic law wouldn’t allow for interest more than 3%. That too was over-turned by Protestants and nominal Catholics—some of the nominal Catholics being Jews ; The other nominal Catholics not Jews, but loved the Jews to kibbles-and-bits.

For those interested in the viewpoint of devout Catholics on various topics—including the decline of the West - I recommend : “www.realclearreligion.com”.

The website also has about 20 links on the blog-roll which will direct one to other devout Catholic websites as well. Learn a viewpoint that is greatly abridged from the mainstream narrative of history, and greatly abridged from the WN “Aryan” narrative of history :

Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres : The third part—the story of devout Catholics—is not truly known, and not truly understood. Unfortunately, the “novus ordo” Catholics have no clue either. They’re hardly Catholics, at any rate.


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Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:59 | #

Joe’s complaint boils down to:  “As usual, the devout Catholics were shoved aside, and devout Catholic law was over-turned.”

Joe, if “devout Catholicism” hadn’t outlawed the challenge to natural duel of dastards like those who shoved aside and over-turned devout Catholic law, how long do you think those dastards would have lived, given the large numbers of devout Catholics who would gladly have laid down their lives to sustain devout Catholicism?

If you want to go on and on about “if…. then…” portraying counterfactual history in favor of “devout Catholicism” then two can play at that game.

Your “devout Catholicism” if it ever actually existed outside of the minds of people who were trying to rationalize away JudeoChristianity’s failure, has no greater claim to moral legitimacy than does the culture that bred the European race tens of thousands of years before the first city was built.


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Posted by Joe on Thu, 14 Mar 2013 01:06 | #

James Bowery hits the nail-on-the-head when he re-iterates my objectively true complaint, ” As usual, the devout Catholics were shoved aside, and devout Catholic laws was over-turned”.

I made many points in above posts to prove my points. I’m not going to type out ever single website concerning this matter. The info is out there for anyone truly interested in the subject. I did mention “realclearreligion” as a good starting point, however ; And I did mention “dyinggods” website. An excellent website to learn about how so much of our histoy was conjured up in Freemasonry. Freemasonry being owned and controlled by satanists. Go to Michael Hoffman’s “revisionisthistory” to leanr more about how devout Catholics were usurped. Hoffman has an excellent bookstore concerning matters related to Freemasonry, the talmud, the kaballah, satanism, etc..

“Dueling” can be an effectice means of defense [ and offense, if one wishes], but dueling can’t stop hordes of rabble-rousers hell-bent on war.  The devout Catholics in Europe were always swamped by those whites who love their internecine wars. In the meantime, when it came time to defend Europe from the Muslims, it was devout Catholics who led on the battlefield. It was devout Catholics who called on white Europeans to drop their petty squabbles, and absurd wars, and join together to save Europe.

The Vikings disappeared from the stage of world history because they were venal,mercenaries, first-and-foremost [ though excellent explorers].

That’s the problem with my Caucasian race : The mercenary spirit runs deep in the blood. It’s innate. That’s why so many whites are suspectible to Jewish influence. That’s why so many whites join Freemasonry : The Jews’ Talmud and Kaballah [ ie : satanism] for the “goyim”. Most whites loving jew bullshit alot more than The One True Faith : Catholicism ; “Swamped by whites who disdained The Faith and turned to Jews for guidance”, as I said in my above post.
         
Even the proud & boastful WN’ers get their Aryan history/myths from the Jews’ snake dens of Freemasonry. It’s pathetic.

Search Term : ” Joseph Smith and Kaballah”. [ http://gnosis.org/jskabb1.htm ] Good website about Mormons+Feemasons ;The search terms : ” Freemasons Mormons Connected” is also an excellent search term.

As far as Hislop is concerned: “Hislop’s Babylonian Mystery Religion Teaching Exposed And Overturned” at http://www.ukapologetics.net/1hislopbaby.html

Search Terms : ” Aryan History + Freemasonry”

              ” Vikings As Mercenaries”
           
                ” Feemasons And Mormonism”

              ” Catholic View Of The Talmud”


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Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 14 Mar 2013 02:42 | #

Joe writes: “dueling can’t stop hordes of rabble-rousers hell-bent on war”

The Hell it can’t!

The perceptive individual can always single out the proximate if not ultimate manipulators of a hoard and kill them.  The only thing that protects such dastards is the rejection of the pagan northern European law that any coward—including those who refuse a challenge to natural duel—should be pressed down into the slimy bog along with sodomites.


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Posted by Joe on Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:33 | #

@ James Bowery

I shall be a good yankee-doodle and go to London…. and challenge Mr. Rothschild to a duel, and save America from jew perfidy forever and ever amen.

Perhaps I’m not as “perceptive” as you are - as I never got involved in a duel - especially with any of one of the “ultimate manipulators”.

As per you : ” The perceptive individual can always single out the proximate if not ultimate manipulators of a hoard and kill them”:

Okay fine. So go out and do it :

Go duel the “ultimate manipulators” on Wall St, in the Pentagon, on Madison Ave and in Hollywood, in the White House, in Congress, in the Washington think-tanks, in the 501c3/ scofeld-lovin’/zionist-lovin’/jew-lovin’ “christian churches”, the jew/mischlinge/snakes in the Vatican, all the leaders of Freemasonry clubs ; Including that Freemason club we call Mormonism, and all the churches/denominations/sects based on Freemasonry - All the manipulators who control and direct the “hoard”—go single them out for duels and go kill them [that’s your advice, not mine, please remember ]—and save us from jew perfidy forever and ever amen.

Go do it, if you know “dueling” is the exact answer & cure for our collective problems as a Race, and you know for sure you’re tough enough to do it [ you make noises as if you’re tough enough ] then Go Do It.


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Posted by Joe on Thu, 14 Mar 2013 04:48 | #

As far as I know , dueling in Europe and in America existed up until the middle of the 19th century. Dueling never seemed to solve anything that had to do with collective topics/issues/matters concerning the white race as a whole.

I don’t think dueling would have stopped The-War-Between-The-States, for example, as the Southern “hoards” - led by Freemasons both Jewish and non-Jewish, in service to Banking Jewry—were hell-bent on following Judah Benjamin, the jew-satanist Albert Pike, and the Jew slave-mongering Oligarchy in Charleston & New Orleans, to hell-and-back for the Jew inspired & initiated Golden Circle slave/opium Empire.

The plan of the Jewish b’nai b’rith in Charleston was to foment a War between North and South, to rip the States in two ; Then after winning the war they thought they could win, the Jews down South were planning to join together with Mexico, Central America, Brazil, the West Indies, and Cuba - by military force if & when necessary - and move the capital of their “beloved’ Dixie to Havana, Cuba! The Jews/Freemasons called [call] it The Golden Circle Empire. All this is abridged from the history books. The WBTS wasn’t about tariiffs and state’s rights, or slavery, not really ; It was about the Jews/Freemasons wanting a Golden Circle slave/opium Empire.

I just don’t think dueling would have changed the course of history as the hoards were hell-bent in following “Judah”  to hell ; They never made it back from hell in one piece, however.  It happens when you go through hell—especially willingly and lovingly so. The devil is waiting there for all the “useful idiots”.

Search term : ” Judah Benjamin + B’nai B’rith + Golden Circle + Whale.to”


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Posted by Bo Sears on Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:32 | #

The north/south split is not limited to the diverse white Americans, Atlantic Islanders, and Europeans.  Everywhere in the Northern Hemisphere and in some areas south of the equator notice can be taken of a similar phenomenon.

It is and was true of Korea, China, even little Vietnam…the northerners look down on southerners.

India has it in spades where it is also a marker of ethnicity:  Indo-Europeans in the north and Dravidians in the south.  The same phenomenon appears in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, and numerous other nations.

Just wanted to drop in to see if specific steps were being advocated to reverse the sewage of slurs, stereotypes, and caricatures.  We really need to stop the inward-facing of the white recovery movement, and turn to face our communities and to confront the hatreds we see every day.

Wordy exegesis and navel-gazing can take us only so far.


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Posted by Joe on Sun, 31 Mar 2013 00:45 | #

About Babylonia and the New World Order from a Zen point-of-view :

http://www.zen-gardner.com/seeing-through-the-eyes-of-the-illuminati/

If link doesn’t work :

” Zen Gardner + Seeing Through The Eyes of The Illuminati “

A worthwhile article, I think.

I’m trying to dis-engage from being “Nazoid-Jew” focused, that’s why I’ve been recently mentioning the role of Islamic jihadists in the Third Reich and how Hitler helped in the formation of The Muslim Brotherhood in the very first place. I thought I was being balanced about talking about both Jew-Zionist-Nazis and Muslim-Islamic-Jihadist Nazis, and the role of Hitler of opening Europe up to Islamic jihad.

I also write posts about Charlemagne, the French Revolution, Edmund Burke, Dante, the silent genocide against the White Race taking place today ; I write posts about Freemasonry, Catholicism, the Protestant Reformation, a little bit about the role of the Jew’s B’nai B’rith in fomenting The-War-Between-The-States and their desire for what they call a “Golden Circle” [ slave/opium empire], posts about Albert Pike and satanic Freemasonry, the JFK assassination and how it fits in with the NWO : how the Mossad assassinated JFK, how Hitler was mentored in satanism by Dietrich Eckart ; I write posts about the The Third Reich/IG Farben ; I write posts about Izzysmells, about what Kissinger says about Israel’s future, I write posts about the Israeli war against the Palestinians, the role of Jew’s in fomenting turmoil and war in the Syria and throughout the Middle East, posts rightfully bashing Hymie-in-Afula, I write posts about John Kaminski, I write posts about The Hyperborean John deNugent ; I write posts about Momus, I write posts about the importance of Morality, I write posts how Family is the Very Foundation of a Nation.

My plan was to start writing posts about the connection between the Mossad’s JFK assassination and the Mossad’s attack of 9/11, and how both together are connected to the silent genocide of the White Race.

I’m also planning to write posts about what’s good about Protestant Christianity [ at least the old-fashioned brand ]. You have to cut me some slack. There’s alot to write about.

Search Terms : ” Mossad Killed JFK” :

http://www.markdankof.com/mossadmurdersjfk.htm

Search Term : ” Mossad and 9-11 ”


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Posted by Joe on Mon, 01 Apr 2013 03:29 | #

About the Spiritual ontolology/metaphysics of the “New-Age” movement, the New World Order, the United Nations, and the “Lucis Trust” :

http://freemasonrywatch.org/lucistrust.html

About Pierre Teilhard de Chardin and his role in the “New Age” order, his role in distorting and changing Christian ontology to bring Christianity into the “New Age”, and his role in creating an ontology for the New World Order . Chardin was a satanist.

http://amaiceducation.blog.com/2011/06/01/teilhard-de-chardin-trojan-horse-of-vatican-iiheretic-extraordinaire/

About Jacques Maritain, and his role in distorting and changing Christian ontology to bring Christianity into the “New Age”. Maritain was a Communist.

http://www.mmisi.org/MA/40_03/molnar.pdf

The Church was greatly infiltrated by communists/satanists during the turmoil, tumult, and war in Europe in the 1920’s-30’s-40’s. While Nazism/Fascism held the Church under military siege and the Church was under great military threat, She was simulaneously infiltrated by satanists. Their job was to change and distort Christian ontology—Christian thinking, behavior, morality, break-down family life, change the foundational metaphysics of Christianity to make Christians amenable to the New World Order agenda. To completely distort, change, and destroy The Faith, in other words, to make the work of the satanic New World Order gang easier.

The Church was the Only Institution looking out for the Genetic Interests and Genetic Heritage of the White Race in Europe in the last century as Communism/Fascism/Nazism/JewishWall Street was all about fomenting war and fomenting massive blood-letting/blood-sacrifice of Whites to the satanic New World Order. The Church had to be destroyed. The usurpation of the Church ties into the silent genocide of the White Race. That’s why I mention the subject.

Search Terms : ” Teilhard de Chardin satanic”

                ” Lucis Trust + New World Order “

                ” Jacques Maritain + Saul Alinsky + Communists “

                ” Satanism + New Age religions + New World Order “

        ” Freemasonrywatch.org + Lucis Trust + New World Order “


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Posted by Momus on Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:56 | #

Despite my better judgement I attempted to look at the first of the websites ‘Joe’ suggested in his last post. Just to confirm what is obvious to anyone with an IQ above room temperature.

Unfortunately the webpage wouldn’t load (a 403 error).

Still the next results were in the David Icke forums (good grief) and a delightful site called.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/

You can look up the appropriate sub page on ‘false religions’.

It’s genuinely pitiful gibberish. Why does MR seem to attract large numbers of the psychologically abnormal/mentally ill? And why are so many of those people ‘religious’?


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Posted by Joe on Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:01 | #

@ Momus

I made it clear when I linked to “jesus-is-savior” website that I linked to it for the one article about freemasonry. I didn’t endorse the whole website—every word of the website. I recommened that one article for the readers. I made it abundantly clear I wasn’t endorsing to whole web-site. Though it wouldn’t hurt to find out another point of view, Momus, now that you brought the subject up.

Let me know which link was a 403 error. I will look into it, and relink : because I know for sure you’re interested in everything I have to say.

Considering how pilpul you are Momus, perhaps you’d prefer the following website—as the “preacher-man” there is very pilpul and picayune about every little thing, right up your Momus alley :

http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/

Just think Momus : If you weren’t such a nit-picker and constantly looking for every little fault in every little thing, you would still be on The Top Of Mt Olympus With The Gods—and not having to waste your time with my “gibberish” —->  you could be cavorting with Ahprodite, The Goddess Of Love, Beauty, and Sexual-Rapture, but you decided instead to be The eternal nit-picker and quibbler.

You rejected Ahprodite and now you’re stuck down here whith us less-than-perfect ones. Not my problem. It was your choice to get booted off The Mountain Of The Gods in the first place. I had nothing to do with that.

What do you think about the solid, factual information I linked to concerning Maritain the Communist infiltrater “catholic”, and Teilhard de Chardin the satanist infiltrater “catholic” ?

You, Momus,  have a tendency to nit-pick & quibble as a means to deflect and distract from the truth.

The ancient Greek Stoics had their shit together. Yes sirre.

 

 

 

 


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Posted by Joe on Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:06 | #

Now I know why Hymie-in Afula, Israel prefers his “Asian hottie” immigrant guest-worker over an Israeli Jewish girl. At first I thought Hymie was shacked-up with an Asian because Hymie doesn’t have too much money, let alone being a wealthy mishpuka—just a run-of-the-mill-jew-schmuck who can’t even afford to live in the Tel Aviv metropolitan area, so the Jewish girls rejected him because Hymie is a poor schmuck —that was my first thought when Hymie-in-Afula bragged about his race-mixing and miscegenation antics with the “Asian hottie” in a most braggadocio manner.

Now I see that there is yet another reason why Hymie-in-Izzysmells is race-mixing besides the fact Hymie is a total schmuck :

” Snake Dies After Biting Israeli Female Model”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366202/Snake-dies-silicone-poisoning-biting-models-breast-photoshoot.html

I post under this “Babylonian” article because a story about a snake dying after biting a young woman strikes me as the very epitome of Babylonian insanity and, Oh how do they say in Yiddish ?—meshuggina-ism. How meshuggina does it get ?

If link doesn’t work, Search term :

” Snakes Bites + Israelis + Snakes Die + Hymie + Schmuck + Hymie Snake Schmuck Race-Mixes + With “Asian Hotties” + Meshugghah + Babylonian Insanity +  holy land ? ”


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Posted by Joe on Sat, 06 Apr 2013 21:22 | #

First : Catholics never worshipped the popes, or any pope. The popes were Never worshipped. It’s only now with the communist take-over of the Catholic Church since 1958 that papal ‘worship” is an issue. 100% of the papal “worship” phenomena is Jew mainstream-media driven anyway.


Second : The Catholic inclusion of Mary into Christian metaphysics acknowledges a certain Sacredness intrinsic to Life Protestants and Jews lack. God made both Man and Woman, it follows God Himself has feminine attributes as well as masculine attributes. Protestants and Jews lack the feminine principle, feminine beauty and grace, and feminine wisdom, to Jew/Protestant ontology & metaphysics.

The Protestants don’t recognize or acknowledge the feminine aspect of God, of Christianity, because of the baneful Jewish Talmudic/Kaballah influences in the Protestant Reformation. Melancthon and Calvin were Jews ;  And, Joseph Smith was a student of the Talmud/Kaballah, and was a member of Jew-owned-and-controlled Freemasonry.

Catholics retain the feminine Grace, Beauty, and Wisdom of the Feminine attribute of the Holy Creator.

About Our Lady :

http://www.oocities.org/timothyc1/mmofgod.html

In Honor of our Holy, Blessed, Mother :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBLqsWt4msg

 


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Posted by Joe on Mon, 08 Apr 2013 21:26 | #

About “Dasein”, Death, Faith, Existentialism :

Search Terms : ” Dasein Comes from Sufism”

                ” Dasein from Sufism”

                ” Sufism Satanic”

Mormonism contains metaphysics from the Jew’s Cabalah, as well as eschatological metaphysics from Islam, more specifically Sufism. Sufism is considered by most Muslims to emanate from Satanism.

Mormonism is a fusion of Cabalah and Sufism, with a veneer of Christianity on the surface to shroud and veil the ontological foundations of Mormonism.

Dasein in Mormonism [ and Heidegger ] comes from Sufism.


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Posted by Nimrud on Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:00 | #

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2015/April/ISIS-Pillages-Nimrod-Destroys-Historic-Treasures/

ISIS reportedly destroyed some of the world’s greatest historical treasures in the Iraqi city of Nimrod.

The jihadist group posted an online video that shows them taking sledgehammers and jackhammers to artifacts and even using explosives to destroy items dating back to the 13th century B.C.

             


The items are from the Assyrian rule that began 2,500 years ago and stretched from the Mediterranean Sea to what is now Iran.

The Assyrians left behind dozens of palaces and temples that included such items as alabaster reliefs depicting kings conquering other lands and fighting lions. The artifacts also included images of Assyrian gods.

ISIS terrorists have been destroying ancient relics they say promote idolatry that violate their fundamentalist interpretation of Islamic law. Their destruction includes the ancient Iraqi city of Hatra, a UNESCO World Heritage site.

Isis destroys Nimrud remains:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrud

Archeologists believe that the city was given the name Nimrud in modern times after the Biblical Nimrod, a legendary hunting hero.[5][6] The city was identified as the Biblical city of Calah (Kalhu, Kalakh; in Hebrew כלח and in Greek χαλαχ), first referred to alongside Nimrod in Genesis 10, by Henry Rawlinson in 1850 on the basis of a possible interpretation of the city’s cuneiform proper name as “Levekh”.[7][8][note 1]

In 2015, the militant organization Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) announced its intention to destroy the site because of its “un-Islamic” nature. In March 2015, the Iraqi government reported that ISIL had used bulldozers to destroy excavated remains of the city. A video released in the same month showed a lamassu statue in the city being attacked with a sledgehammer. Another video posted online by the group in April 2015 showed the site being destroyed by bulldozers and explosives.[9]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j94yjH9fRJQ


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Posted by Lindtner + Humphreys on Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:30 | #

Lindtner + Humphreys

Christian Lindtner and Kenneth Humphreys to appear in international conference:

  FYI: There will be an important international conference on the New Testament in Roskilde, Denmark on June 21-24, 2015

  Gospel Interpretation and Q-Hypothesis.

  Ken Humphreys and Christian Lindtner will be attending.


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