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The White Genocide Evidence Project The White Genocide Evidence Project “Discourse is war.” ~Søren Renner This is the White Genocide Evidence Project: contributors will help create a database of evidence documenting the intentional destruction, displacement, and denigration of the White race in all White nations—White genocide. These contributions will be quotations or other evidence, buttressed as much as possible by references, which will eventually be converted into a final product to expose the perpetrators of White genocide. Hundreds of online discussion forums and websites have already compiled immense lists of hateful, slanderous, or genocidal quotations against the White race. The idea is to collect and synthesize these quotations (and any other evidence) into a polished, presentable, unimpeachable, and independent end-product suitable for public dissemination to the population at large. Many realize the “open borders” movement is a thinly-veiled attempt to dilute and thereby destroy all White nations—Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everybody. White people are libeled and demonized by cultural Marxists in academia, vilified by public slander, and robbed of the right to self-identify all in order to instill a destructive sense of false White guilt. Anti-Whites advance these agendas and claim “the race problem” will disappear if all the White nations assimilate and interbreed with an overwhelming flood of non-White immigrants. These malevolent social engineers yearn for a blended humanity in White nations—mocha-skinned people and societies without race by homogenous default. What they never mention—and what is left to nationalists to publicly emphasize—is that this plan for “diversity” only applies to White nations. If this patent truth were well-recognized, everyone would recognize this scheme as the systematic eradication of the White race—White genocide. Ideally, the people promoting, financing, conspiring in, and implementing White genocide will be brought to justice before an international genocide tribunal. Additionally, the people and organizations pushing for White genocide can face criminal prosecution or civil litigation in various nations. Countless lawsuits have been filed seeking monetary damages or criminal charges against people, firms, or organizations linked to alleged atrocities of the Second World War or modern ethnic conflicts. In the same manner, the forces responsible for White genocide will attract a cottage industry of lucrative lawsuits seeking monetary redress. Myriad wealthy individuals, endowed foundations, and multinational corporations share complicity in the drive to destroy the White race. These deep pockets are ideal targets for lawsuits. This project can provide the groundwork for a prima facie complaint in international or domestic courts of law. As stated, the ultimate purpose of this project is to reproduce all of the quotations and evidence into an independent website unaffiliated with any group or faction. It will serve as an objective testament to the persecution and genocide of White people worldwide. This website will be an invaluable resource to awaken others to the existential issues facing the White race. Furthermore, this project will deter many anti-White individuals from engaging in further hostilities against the White race because it will publicize these crimes to the world and increase the likelihood of criminal prosecution and civil litigation. Please submit direct quotations, written or spoken, that implicate one or more persons, organizations, or governments under the United Nations definition of genocide (see below). Remember the burden of proof is upon the prosecutor or plaintiff; specific details are invaluable. Context, publication details, and verifiable references are all extremely important. If a particular quotation lacks any of these attributes, provide it anyway because others can contribute by filling in the gaps. This is the nature of the project—a worldwide collaboration to create a voluminous, detailed, and well-referenced database of quotations and evidence to implicate agents and organizations responsible for White genocide. Quotations are the easiest to find and thus the primary focus. However, talented and resourceful researchers can submit voting records, corporate policies, lobbying agendas, political agreements, or immigration policies, which are all very helpful. Creativity is encouraged. Format for submissions: Name ***EXAMPLE*** Noel Ignatiev Keep in mind that under international law, genocide is not confined to murder or physical violence and White genocide is not always explicit or related to immigration policy. Evidence of moral degradation, ethnic cleansing from neighborhoods, policies to suppress White birthrates, interracial violence, vilification of the White race, and other such attacks contributing to White genocide is encouraged as well. For more information on the concept of White genocide, please read None Dare Call It White Genocide, excerpted below: The overarching goal of the “open borders” movement is to flood millions of non-Whites into all traditionally White nations. Make no mistake - this is not mere coincidence. It is White genocide by design, worldwide in application. The United States, Great Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Australia: White people founded and populated these nations. All of these nations operated under the implicit mandate, if not explicit by law, that they existed as White nations for the posterity of the White founding stock. All of these nations had overwhelmingly White populations for the preponderance of their national history. Now, in the beginning of the twenty-first century, all of these traditionally White nations face demographic upheavals through massive non-White immigration. The White populations of these countries are slated to become minority populations in just a few generations. International law defines genocide as an international crime against humanity, with grave punishment for violations. As far as the international recognition of the reality of race, ask the ghosts of Saddam Hussein or Wilhelm Frick if the Kurds or Jews, respectively, are mere social constructs. Race is an internationally-recognized reality and is a major factor in the crime of genocide. In the future, the political and economic elites that are responsible for the policies of White genocide may face trial before an international tribunal. The 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II states: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group as such: (a) Killing members of the group; Raphael Lemkin, who originated the term genocide, defined it as follows: Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean destruction of a nation… It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups. Genocide is directed against the national group as an entity, and the actions involved are directed against individuals, not in their individual capacity but as members of a national group. Comments:2
Posted by anon on Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:36 | # I say this not because I am impractical, but because we were probably fated to perish after Stalingrad. For 70 years we’ve been on borrowed time. I suspect we have a few more decades until the end, which means I shall have lived my whole life in the shadow of decline, as a member of a dying people. I suppose at this point all that matters is to chronicle how we could have endured, and why.
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Posted by Guest Lurker on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 00:13 | # Leon wrote:
Christ you can write some long-winded posts. I’m not in any way connected to any Asians, but you’re the first white man I’ve ever heard intimate that somehow white women with east Asians is even a greater humiliation than white women with primitive simian-like sub-saharan throwbacks. If there are going to be dysgenic white women out there mating with non-whites, I would personally prefer they were LESS dysgenic than they currently are, just as I would prefer our race in general to be less damaged than it currently is. That is, I could live with maybe losing the occasional white female in our populous to a half-way respectable Asian, rather than the current situation where a significant percentage of the white female population are black fetishists, something that exists in no other race’s female population, outside of black female of course. P.S. I live in Southern Cal as well, and see no evidence of this wave of white females with asian males “en masse”- certainly nowhere near the white male/asian female levels, or the black male/white female abominations. Happy Landings 4
Posted by Frank on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 01:48 | # Christian, relocate it all to a separate thread? Or just delete - I for one wouldn’t mind. 5
Posted by PF on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 04:11 | # So Leon… are you looking for advice on Game? Lets put the racial stuff on the backburner for a second and acknowledge the massive importance of tail! ... or not… *smiles* seriously though, if uh is reading this: I am still interested in purchasing your teeth. If anyone wants to know about Game I’d recommend doing an internet archive search for Basically she was the MR of seduction psyche. Thats just my opinion, but I’m writing this as a tribute to her since she since disappeared into obscurity and cant be found… She is in my pantheon of heroes along with Wintermute, GW, uh, Nietzsche, and a few other greats. Requisquiat in Paces, Destini9. 6
Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 06:41 | # CHRISTIAN, Sorry for throwing a curveball by mentioning the white female/Asian male thing a long time ago on this thread, though I’m sure it was in response to another comment, etc. These discussion threads always go all over the place. Also, I did suggest that this project was potentially valuable enough to merit its own special file under OF NOTE, which it now seems to have. On the other hand, looking back over what I’ve said (which keeps getting misinterpreted and personalized for some reason), there is actually some valuable insights strewn amongst the irrelevant stuff. And I did question early on whether our race actually is being ‘genocided’. What is happening is that the conditions for our perpetuity are being gradually weakened or removed - like necessary ecological habitat supporting wildlife, which is not the same thing as hunters running amok. This last point of mine is rather important, and you need to formulate a convincing response, if this project is to have the value I suspect you impute to it. 7
Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 06:43 | # PF, So Leon… are you looking for advice on Game? Uh, no, but thanks. Maybe I’ll take a look at what you recommend. I need no advice (as you will see if you read what I wrote above). I do worry about the long term effect of many good white women now taking up with Asians (saw two more tonight in Westwood), as degenerate white females have done with blacks and Mexicans. I would like to know about Wintermute, however. I’ve heard the reference, but never seen anything by him/her. 8
Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 06:44 | # GUEST LURKER, “lengthy” would be more accurate than “long-winded”. Look it up. The issue is QUALITY loss. How many quality white females around here run around with blacks? Seriously, dude! It’s mostly the very slutty, low-IQ type (in the old days it was really ugly ones, too - now, I admit to being very annoyed when I see an attractive white girl with a Negroid, even if she usually is stupid and low class). But many women I see with Asian males are normal, middle or better class, etc. That represents a real loss to the race. In fairness, business takes me up to San Francisco with some frequency, and the Asian/white problem seems to be even worse there. I’ve also seen it in San Diego. 9
Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 06:46 | # FRANK, No hard feelings. I just don’t want to be misinterpreted, or miscast as something I’m not. For example, on the many ‘conservative’ threads from which I’ve been banned (eg, Chronicles, First Things, Free Republic, etc), I’m often castigated as “that Nazi”, when I repeatedly stress that I am not a philosophical Nazi, but a true conservative who therefore wishes to keep the white race from extinction. What is more ‘conservative’ than that? Unfortunately, for the race liberals at places like those mentioned, I ask the tough questions about the compatibility between race-denial / race-replacement and conservatism, to which the cowards don’t have answers, and so respond like petulant children. Fleming is just the worst, a true coward (actually Scott Richert might be the very worst; I barely consider him to be on the Right at all). If you’re not banned yet from those sites, keep hoisting the race patriot flag. 10
Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 09:27 | # I say this not because I am impractical, but because we were probably fated to perish after Stalingrad. For 70 years we’ve been on borrowed time. I suspect we have a few more decades until the end, which means I shall have lived my whole life in the shadow of decline, as a member of a dying people. I suppose at this point all that matters is to chronicle how we could have endured, and why. (LH) Coldly beautiful words. Am surprised by your pessimism.(anon) ANON, Do you comment here or elsewhere under another moniker? You seem vaguely familiar. Anyway, I alternate between moments of optimism and pessimism. It would be strange to sound defeatist, especially for me, as I am tidying up my affairs and finances in order to be able to devote myself in the second part of my career/life to full-time racialism - scholarship, media work, and political organizing in the US on behalf of our soon to be white minority. I am doing this without any convincing expectation of final victory - though there are several levels constituting such victory, from reconquest of former white polities, to the foreign racial state I advocate, to white group consciousness raising and protectionist activism within ‘diversified’ societies to ensure white survival even if we are numeric minorities. I will do it for what are ultimately Christian reasons, but mixed with ‘earthy’ passions and psychic impulses. That is, I think that 1) Western civilization has both a right and even a duty to survive, and that it cannot do so without whites; 2) someone who understands the truth and could make a real contribution to the cause ought to do so, both out of Christian ethical obligation, as well as personal honor; and 3) I could write some books that would be a source of pride; possibly make it in rightist media, which I would prefer to my current business career; and really enjoy building the white activist organization I have had in mind for over 15 years. But in the end, will it matter? Only intermediately, I think. The back and forth between me and Guest Lurker in this thread is extremely important, because it implicates the major issue in racial survival: how can or will we stop our women from miscegenating? In every generation there is a large number of women who do not reproduce (I’ve done no specific research, but I’d like to know the number for women under 50, which I suspect is substantially higher than for women over 70, 80, 90). I think that number has been rising throughout the 20th century, and into this one. Every gene line whose carrier miscegenates is lost to the white race. For example, unless Tiger Woods’ Swedish supermodel wife divorces him, remarries a white man, and has children with the latter, she will not have passed her racial essence to a new generation. I do not regard miscegenation as a ‘spreading’ of the white racial genotype to other races, but simply as a subtraction from the white race, at least if the miscegenator is female (why this should be so is obvious, but the answer could be given this way: is Obama white or black?). I think racial extinction is likely because miscegenation will only become more common in the future, at least to the extent that people are allowed sexual and marital freedom. It would have increased even apart from immigration, simply due to expanding wealth and ever easier travel. The internet exponentially increases miscegenation opportunities, and this will only grow in the future (until the pool of possible miscegenators has been soaked up, and only willful non-miscegenators remain - and they will be too few to defend themselves). What can counter the racial-loss effects of miscegenation? Ultimately, either sexual authoritarianism, long present in the West, esp pre-WW2, but now and for the foreseeable future totally morally and politically discredited, or else something (attitudes, laws, economic changes) to cause huge fertility increases among the non-miscegenating portion of the white population (to counteract or overwhelm the miscegenators, as it were). The former will not happen in the modern West as presently politically constituted (so we’re back to advocating RaHoWa, and the instantiation of a semi-totalitarian Racial State), and all exogenous trends in society, economics, government parasitism, social dysgenesis, parenting psychologies, even environmental and natural resource conditions, militate against large white families (and the trend almost everywhere is for smaller nonwhite families, too). [Note: the one exception is certain white fundamentalist Christian groups with a hyper-family and reproduction orientation - yet another reason why we need to enlist Christianity on our side, or make it ideologically congruent with racial preservationism, as well as why atheistic forms of nationalism will always prove so, well, sterile.] The problem with Racial Revolution is that white societies are too wealthy and secure for their peoples to risk death and economic ruin in fomenting it - especially for something as abstract and personally remote as “saving the white race”. Whites will have to become far more miserable than at present before they will pick up guns en masse for revolutionary reasons. Before that level of misery is reached, however, the white peoples will elect conservative parties, who in turn will ameliorate the problems with better government solutions, especially in the economic sphere - and thus furtheranesthetize their populations in the face of accelerating racial dispossession and “pre-extinction”. By the time whites are so immiserated that they “don’t give a fuck”, as the skins say, they will be too few to wage a credible counter-revolution (see, eg, their condition in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe today - and their lack of white revolutionary activity). Whites are going to have to learn to survive as a diasporic people (imagine that: a native born white Englishman a refugee in bloody England itself!!). Will they be able to do so? Will they be allowed to? 11
Posted by Sam Davidson on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 14:22 | # If the admins on this site are serious why are they allowing someone posting under the name “Leon Haller” to HIJACK A THREAD ABOUT WHITE GENOCIDE so he can talk about comparative penis size or how his relationships have failed? 12
Posted by Frank on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:00 | # Christian M, Ignatiev, “The Point is Not to Interpret Whiteness but to Abolish It,” found at —- Leon, I posted racial comments at Chronicles for years. They never asked me to leave, but I’ve since realised they’ve all read the racially oriented sites. Dr. Fleming isn’t a coward I think but an authentic anti-nationalist. He wrote an article recently in Chronicles on how nationalism inevitably leads to empire and dual morality, and I’ve read countless other articles by him suggesting such a view as well. I nevertheless recommend people to read the magazine - the racial right is still dealing with insanity. A fusion of sanity and racialism is needed between the two. 13
Posted by Woody on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:50 | # Leon is asking PF and Uh for advice on how to pick up women. Truly surreal. The first port of call should be Silver, who at least has picking up Thai hookers down to a science. 14
Posted by Woodrow on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 01:05 | #
Sam, I seem to recall you once gushing over the respect you have for Leon’s commentary. Apparently it’s a package deal. 15
Posted by Jimmy Marr on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 01:40 | #
And a small a package at that. 16
Posted by Leon Haller on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:09 | # Posted by Sam Davidson on March 05, 2011, 06:22 PM | # If the admins on this site are serious why are they allowing someone posting under the name “Leon Haller” to HIJACK A THREAD ABOUT WHITE GENOCIDE so he can talk about comparative penis size or how his relationships have failed? Sam, Obviously you haven’t followed the discussion. Comparative penis size (between whites and blacks, which you don’t mention), incidentally, seems to be a major issue for Philippe Rushton, whom Jared Taylor has called “the world’s greatest living racial scientist”, no mean praise from a major source. Of course, what is interesting is that I have a lengthy, impersonal comment about white extinction immediately above yours. No comments on that, which is a bit disappointing. It would be very instructive to have an intellectual but neutral party compare my stuff to most of what others publish here - and see whose material he finds more pointed, enlightening, even amusing, perhaps. 17
Posted by Leon Haller on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:18 | # Leon is asking PF and Uh for advice on how to pick up women. Truly surreal. (Woody) What the fuck are you talking about? Where do I ask advice from anyone? I declined PF’s offer of such advice! I don’t even remember “uh” being part of this discussion. Actually, from what I read here, I strongly suspect that I could be giving huge amounts of dating advice (and probably other types of (professional, financial) advice) to many regulars. I hate saying this, but there is a lot of inanity among the insights in these parts. There is considerable misunderstanding of female psychology; gross unfamiliarity with real Jews; tremendous economic and financial ignorance routinely exhibited; as well as endless ill-thought out bromides and general ideological thinking substituting for real attempts at useful analysis. 18
Posted by Leon Haller on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:30 | # Leon, I posted racial comments at Chronicles for years. They never asked me to leave, but I’ve since realised they’ve all read the racially oriented sites. Dr. Fleming isn’t a coward I think but an authentic anti-nationalist. He wrote an article recently in Chronicles on how nationalism inevitably leads to empire and dual morality, and I’ve read countless other articles by him suggesting such a view as well. I nevertheless recommend people to read the magazine - the racial right is still dealing with insanity. A fusion of sanity and racialism is needed between the two. (Frank) I’ve been reading CHRONICLES closely and in whole for two decades, month after month. I must now be one of their longer term subscribers - and by far one of their most diligent readers (even as the mag has massively declined over the past 3 years or so). I disagree re Fleming. He’s pretty bright, and very learned (note my different emphases: I know any number of people I think possess his IQ; I’ve spoken with him in person, and was impressed, but not remotely intimidated; he is extremely classically well-read, I admit). He is also solidly conservative. Thus, he must realize that the Third World invasion is devastating for the prospects of Western survival, and indeed, he has admirably made immigration a major issue for the magazine. Yet every time someone mentions whites coming together to assert or just defend their own interests, he starts whining, banning people, trying to needlessly complicate the issue, or otherwise engaging in “reverse-PC”; ie, acknowledging problems associated with nonwhites, but then trying to find ways, however tortured, to blame (liberal, neocon) whites for having somehow created the mess. For Fleming, nonwhites are never really a problem in themselves - and natural racist responses are morally worse than the original problems which called forth those responses. 19
Posted by PF on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:59 | # Leon Haller wrote:
You begged me and uh to give you advice, just read higher up in this thread, Leon!! Leon Haller wrote:
Remember that comment? Then I politely recommended the services of Brigadier PF and Field Marshall Leptini, who quite frankly are two of the most fearless poonani squires to ever set foot on American soil. This isn’t embittered Roissy’s club skank carousel or Leon’s picking-Russian-girls-up-from-the-airport adventures: when PF flexes the mercian dimples and Leptini flashes the golden grill, girls update their facebook profiles - do you understand what I’m saying to you, Leon? Try to read between the lines here - not everything we need to know as men will appear in serialized form in Chronicles, OK? I’m trying to tell you that my needs get met without handing out green cards. Real men don’t have to go slumming for slavic peasant trim - you won’t see me carrying a pocket dictionary around the airport stuttering ‘Horrowshow, horrorshow’. Leon wrote:
Most guys here are older, taken, not interested in the hunt, and/or suffering with personality-issues which make dating impossible. Plus it isn’t hard to infer what your method is: douse a Langenscheidt’s dictionary with chloroform and go after clueless Ukrainian girls. If your clumsy broken Ukrainglish doesn’t work, just stick the book in their face. I’m here to say that there is a better way, broseph. 20
Posted by PF on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 00:18 | # apologies apologies…. Sorry Leon for the above post, I was in a mean mood and honestly I was just being a troll. All the stuff I said was only to amuse myself and has nothing to do with what I actually think of you - which is really with respect for a dedicated, highly intelligent and multi-faceted white man. A brother in arms, in all seriousness. I just wanted to have a laugh and paint some funny mental pictures. Plus everybody struggles with women and modern relationships - none of us is any better than the other in my honest opinion. You’re probably ahead of the game by a longshot, from what you’ve said. Putting another guy down is way lame. Some of the other guys on here might just be messing with you too… no worries mate. 21
Posted by Hamish on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 01:33 | # I seem to keep having these issues with women… I can never find the quality ones - only Russian immigrant skanks who I’ve been able to lure to my bed with promises of citizenship. Cease and desist from this immoral behavior at once. You seem disturbingly similar to those Fox producers who came up with that Joe Millionaire show. 22
Posted by Leon Haller on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 06:53 | # Christian, Thanks for deleting my comments re the Asian/white issue, you jerk! You could have just deleted my personal stuff (which was posted both to correct misunderstandings, but also to amuse). Why did you delete my miscegenation comments?! I would have liked to have saved some of that (I just hadn’t done it yet). I made a lot of serious points in my exchanges with Guest Lurker. In fact, you deleted my original comments re the difference between white “genocide” and liberals who undermine the conditions for white survival. Fuck! Post those back, shithead. Don’t let my Christian commitments fool you. Real Christians (this is weird, given your name ...) are just, not foolish, cowardly or obsequious. I don’t like this kind of highhandedness, and will remember it. 23
Posted by Leon Haller on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:05 | # PF, You’re witty. Welcome back (thought you’d left after contracting Heideggeria). My Russian was very pretty, and skilled in ways men appreciate. But heartless, narcissistic and cunning. But that, along with much else, is past. That whole exchange had little to do with me originally. I merely pointed out the dangers of quality white women in CA (and elsewhere) with dating options now choosing Asian males over (presumably) available white men. I really wish my serious observations on those matters had not been deleted. To reiterate for the record: I never asked anyone for dating advice here. I mentioned some lessons from my own extensive experience. 24
Posted by Leon Haller on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:48 | # Sorry Leon for the above post, I was in a mean mood and honestly I was just being a troll. All the stuff I said was only to amuse myself and has nothing to do with what I actually think of you - which is really with respect for a dedicated, highly intelligent and multi-faceted white man. A brother in arms, in all seriousness. (PF) PF, BTW, thanks for your kind comments. Whether I am intelligent or multi-faceted is open to debate. What I do resent is those (not talking about you) who question my dedication, just because I, say, don’t think we can blame all or even most of our problems on Jews or Zionism, or don’t believe that RaHoWa or Racial Armageddon is right around the corner, “in a matter of months”, as Narrator opined recently. I am as radical as anyone here in my commitment to preserving the white race and the civilization it alone created and can alone sustain. I do not think there is virtue, however, in theoretical radicalism merely for its own sake. What matters is that we adopt above all a ruthless commitment to seeing our situation clearly. Yes, that means calling attention to dangers, but not exaggerating them. It also means tailoring our messages properly for public consumption. For example, most people here mock my essential (but NOT fundamentalist) Christianity. I understand their position. I’ve read books by any number of atheists, and am not close minded in religious matters. My theologic-political views, which I intend to elaborate in future scholarship (I’m still reading about the issues, and formulating my final thoughts), are very unusual. I am Catholic modernist / liberal in theology, with a thoroughly non-literalist approach to Scripture, yet Hard (Racial) Right ideologically. That is a rare combination, which needs its spokesman. But even if all forms of supernaturalism are finally, empirically false, it is a truth to which we must adapt our rhetoric that, as I’ve pointed out in the past, most white Americans are Christians, and the vast bulk of conservative white Americans are real Christians. Take immigration. In the US, it is a fact of empirical political science that self-identified white Christians are more opposed to it than any other large demographic. It is also a fact that white atheists are much more likely a) to be leftists, and b) to be pro-immigration. I cannot explain why that should be so (my own sense is that most white atheists should be against immigration, and most other aspects of the Left’s white-dispossessionist agenda), but given that it is, does it make any strategic sense to associate white preservationism with atheism? That is insane; indeed, only marginally less so than associating our just cause with Nazism, as the Jewish Left cunningly has done. The trick in democracies is that one usually can only change the electorate in gradualist fashion. What is more successful is the Aristotelian “revolution within the form”, whereby the outer garb of the regime is preserved, even while it essence is hollowed out (the Augustan revolution being history’s most prominent example: Rome changed from a republic to an empire, but the outward institutional signs of Republican Rome were not discarded, instead transmogrified into imperial appendages which nevertheless allowed for the maintenance of the image of historical continuity), as opposed to radical calls for wholesale change, which invariably inertial voters normally, sagely reject. So let no one confuse calls for rhetorical moderation with abandonment of core values. One often catches more flies with honey than vinegar, after all! 25
Posted by Hamish on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:08 | # Take immigration. In the US, it is a fact of empirical political science that self-identified white Christians are more opposed to it than any other large demographic. It is also a fact that white atheists are much more likely a) to be leftists, and b) to be pro-immigration. I cannot explain why that should be so (my own sense is that most white atheists should be against immigration, and most other aspects of the Left’s white-dispossessionist agenda), but given that it is, does it make any strategic sense to associate white preservationism with atheism? I agree with you on these points. Can’t say I agree with the idea of “breeding out the faith gene” which is sometimes alluded to here (anyone know who came up with it?). Also can’t say I agree with that Greg Johnson’s mad idea of associating WN with that crazy person Faye and his idea of creating man-animal hybrids. That is insane; indeed, only marginally less so than associating our just cause with Nazism, as the Jewish Left cunningly has done. I see what you’re saying, but the problem is that any org that allows Jews in will be taken over by Jewish interests. They’re just better at us at stealthily steering orgs in their desired direction. Leon, do you support the idea of a non-Neo-Nazi group excluding Jews from membership? 26
Posted by Leon Haller on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:28 | # Leon, do you support the idea of a non-Neo-Nazi group excluding Jews from membership? (Hamish) I’m complicated, maybe confused, in my JQ views. I’m also overly influenced by my having too many close Jewish friends, as well as and especially by having several Jewish racial-conservative friends. I have to consider this at greater length later, as the workday beckons. Short answer? I see your point. It would have been better for US and the West if the Jews had never left Israel/Palestine. It would be better for us if they all returned there. But they are here, and they won’t leave voluntarily. What to do? My views will elicit storms of outrage here. I think we should make an alliance with Jewry - but it must be forged in steel, with both sides held to account (unlike today, where everything is for the Jews, nothing for us). We must state clearly that our goal is to save white, Christian civilization. We must lay out the specifics (no immigration, ultimate nonwhite repatriation from Europe, no affirmative racism, real, white history taught in schools, only white Christian and national traditionalist public holidays, pro-white-fertility tax and social policies, etc). We tell Jews that we wish to increase white (Aryan) birthrates above all else (after nonwhite immigration has been terminated). We tell the Jews to support us, beginning with ending their support for immigration, and making sizable donations to nationalist parties, in exchange for which we will let them conduct business, attend synagogues, and live in our midst, if already here (no Jewish immigration, however). We will also morally support Israel in world opinion, and international bodies. If a group is committed to this .. if nationalist principles are written into its very organizational charter ... then what is wrong with letting Jews join, given that, whether we like it or not, they are in our societies already? I have Jewish friends who are very civilized, very conservative, very racist. They are also very intelligent, mostly very successful, and mostly affluent to rich. Could we not use persons like that, provided that we ourselves are inflexible and unyielding in our understanding of the white, Christian character of our organization and countries? 27
Posted by anon on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:18 | # Could we not use persons like that, provided that we ourselves are inflexible and unyielding in our understanding of the white, Christian character of our organization and countries? “Persons like that” would ultimately use us, not we them. That’s just the way it goes, Leon. 28
Posted by Thunder on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:30 | # Guessedworker, Christian: 29
Posted by Ryan on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:00 | #
It’s because Greg Johnson gets turned on by horsecock. 30
Posted by marlowe on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:13 | # LHaller:
So it’s to be a “forged in steel” alliance that requires not only their consent, but their permission? Like an agreement? I’m afraid you don’t know who you are dealing with. 31
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:18 | # Thunder, Christian is working on the next stage of development for the project, which will come shortly. 32
Posted by A Swain on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 21:08 | # Here are three links that irrefutably prove anti-White race hate. The criminals involved should have been arrested and charged at the time they committed their hate crimes against the European-descended White rate, but nonetheless, it’s never too late for leaders and advocats of the White race to start the necessary proceedings to press for arrest on the grounds of such charges. http://www.mashada.com/forums/politics/69228-wanjiru-white-people-haters-we-belong-human-race.html http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/going-gets-tough-white-haters-get-go 33
Posted by Leon Haller on Tue, 08 Mar 2011 06:55 | # So it’s to be a “forged in steel” alliance that requires not only their consent, but their permission? Like an agreement? I’m afraid you don’t know who you are dealing with. (marlowe) How do you get that interpretation (permission?) from what I said and you copied? 34
Posted by Captainchaos on Tue, 08 Mar 2011 07:31 | # Leon, You need to learn how to pick your fights. You know me, I’ll get hyper-aggressive with it. But always within the confines of a larger strategic vision - at least so I hope. Of course, sometimes I’ll just say “Fuck it” and toss in a grenade. 35
Posted by Leon Haller on Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:39 | # CC, Yes. What I really need to do is to stop compulsive blogging, and start my formal writing. That’s a long road, getting real academic, and then scholarly, credibility. Soon, I’m going to drop off the internet permanently, and concentrate on articles, essays and my book on racial ethics. Of course, it would be nice to streamline my life across the board, too. Actually, it would be nice if we could all earn our daily bread through racial activism, rather than dissipating our already collectively limited energies on racially unproductive ‘real work’. 36
Posted by Captainchaos on Tue, 08 Mar 2011 17:10 | # Leon, I think blogging is a more effective medium for communicating our ideas than the production of boring tomes. What must come to pass is a mass movement explicitly predicated on achieving racially exclusive living space. There is no substitute. Look to the success of a streamlined and radical message in upsetting political power in the Middle East. Yes, it did really happen. And can again, here. 38
Posted by Leon Haller on Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:46 | # Leon, I think blogging is a more effective medium for communicating our ideas than the production of boring tomes. What must come to pass is a mass movement explicitly predicated on achieving racially exclusive living space. There is no substitute. Look to the success of a streamlined and radical message in upsetting political power in the Middle East. Yes, it did really happen. And can again, here. (CC) Yes, but ... We are in a very different situation from the Arabs. They are/were living under obvious tyrannies, often pitting one sub-nation (“tribe”) against another. That superficially sounds like our situation, but obviously isn’t. For one thing, we have the vote (or its illusion), they have not. Our situation is that our people need to be convinced of their dispossession, and eventual extinction - and of the moral rightness of doing something to stop it. Or, at least a substantial and vigorous enough minority of them. That’s where the totality of our work comes in. We need everything - from academic works, to journalism, to political organizing, to ideological activism, to mass media, to street activism - all working to fulfill some “nationalist minimum”, like ending immigration. We are a long way from there, unfortunately. 39
Posted by Aquila on Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:27 | # “I think blogging is a more effective medium for communicating our ideas than the production of boring tomes.” If you are posting comments on a political blog it won’t have any effect. Blogs with political contents are just places where people of the same “club” meet, nothing will change. You can hope for some change only on more neutral places like newspaper websites. 40
Posted by PHIL WHITE on Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:25 | # HI: Saw your request for help over at whitakeronline.org THis is the best I’ve got. S. Steinlight, former vice president of AJC, wrote an article for CIS (center for immigration studies)in November of 2001. It is on line. About half way down the 15,000 word article he says “We can divide and rule’ S. Steinlight, former vice president of AJC, wrote an article for CIS (center for immigration studies)in October of 2001. It is on line. About half way down the 15,000 word article he says “We can divide and rule’
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Posted by professor edwards on Tue, 22 Mar 2011 12:57 | # ‘Discourse is war’ is a retarded slogan, and in any case it is stolen from a 1980s leftist slogan (‘Rational Discourse is War’). 42
Posted by A Swain on Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:50 | # Anti-White race hate spotlight on Greg Dyke, former Director-General of the British Broadcasting Corporation. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12841/Dyke-BBC-hideously-white.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/bbc-is-hideously-white-says-dyke-702583.html Dyke is thought to be of part-Ashkenazi origin. Interesting later development. Could the two characters mentioned in the following news item be of the same origin, perhaps? “On 10 March 2010, it was reported that he had been approached by Alexander Lebedev and his son Evgeny Lebedev to edit The Independent and The Independent on Sunday newspapers” 43
Posted by Pete on Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:43 | # Report on CNN about a county that is deemed “too white” and how it is in the process of ensuring it recruits more non-whites in violation of Article 2 section (c) http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/03/26/white.county.diversity.cnn?hpt=C2 44
Posted by Voir Dire on Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:37 | # Jew Judge, Justice Brennan, Gave Us Destructive “Anchor Baby” Interpretation of 14th Amendment (What Will the First-Amendment-Hating Radical Jewess Elena Kagan Bring to the Table?) that Dramatically Transformed U.S. Demographics and Helped Bankrupt U.S. Justice Brennan’s Footnote Gave Us Anchor Babies For a hundred years, that was how it stood, with only one case adding the caveat that children born to LEGAL permanent residents of the U.S., gainfully employed, and who were not employed by a foreign government would also be deemed citizens under the 14th Amendment. (United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 1898.) And then, out of the blue in 1982, Justice Brennan slipped a footnote into his 5-4 opinion in Plyler v. Doe, asserting that “no plausible distinction with respect to Fourteenth Amendment ‘jurisdiction’ can be drawn between resident aliens whose entry into the United States was lawful, and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful.” (Other than the part about one being lawful and the other not.) Brennan’s authority for this lunatic statement was that it appeared in a 1912 book written by Clement L. Bouve. (Yes, THE Clement L. Bouve—the one you’ve heard so much about over the years.) Bouve was not a senator, not an elected official, certainly not a judge—just some guy who wrote a book. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38409 Brennan: An unparalleled religious liberty champion Less well-known is that he is the only justice ever to wear a camouflage yarmulke in chambers. http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/6258/brennan-an-unparalleled-religious-liberty-champion/ Jewish Grins & Grimaces From Elena Kagan http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=517 Why Are Abortionists, Jews, Gays & Leftists Pushing Kagan? 45
Posted by philipdru on Tue, 19 Apr 2011 11:45 | #
The same principle governs ‘British’ nationalism. That is why I despise it and its self-hating, overwhelmingly English adherents. Scots are Scots, Irish are Irish while the English are….er, British - an object of abuse even to those who plunder her and inescapably the one necessary sacrificial offering to sustaining an outworn and unjust ideology. Does it matter what colour is the hand that plunges a knife between your shoulder blades? 46
Posted by Dungeoneer on Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:02 | # Posted by philipdru on April 19, 2011, 03:45 PM | # “Does it matter what colour is the hand that plunges a knife between your shoulder blades?” Any type of meaningless wordism debate is grist to the anti-white pro-genocide mill. This is the white genocide evidence project page,no? 47
Posted by Jordon Yampolsky on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 05:55 | # Very interesting post. Thank you for sharing. 48
Posted by Antifascist on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 01:54 | #
I suggest you white supremacists read this book by Dr.Noel Ignatiev he will enlighten you to the truth of history, and why your society promotes white racial supremacy. http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095
The White people are reigning supreme already, because of racial prejudice against non-whites in the workplace, education, police bias against non-whites, it is a disgrace, for you to spew your hate speech and motivate others to view different ethnic groups, as inferior, it should be illegal for you to incite hatred the way you do. 49
Posted by Antifascist on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 02:35 | # @Daniels 50
Posted by Wandrin on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:06 | #
is a Jewish racist and supremacist who, along with many others like him, is using cultural manipulation to try and engineer the global stealth genocide of White people. 51
Posted by daniels. on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:11 | # ... Posted by Antifascist on November 01, 2012, 02:35 AM | # @Daniels You are a racist
anti-semite.
No, it is you who does this. White supremacy is evil, If I were a supremacist, that might be evil. But I am not anyway, I am a White separatist.
How dare you use this nonsense term to try to prohibit us from defending ourselves and saving our lives. It is you who is inciting hatred by attempting to prohibit our separatism from non-Europeans your hate speech is intolerable Your propaganda and rhetoric which is aimed at confusing and misdirecting European people from defending themselves is intolerable. 52
Posted by daniels. on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:15 | # ... Posted by Antifascist on November 01, 2012, 02:35 AM | # @Daniels You are a racist
anti-semite.
No, it is you who does this. White supremacy is evil, If I were a supremacist, that might be evil. But I am not anyway, I am a White separatist.
How dare you use this nonsense term to try to prohibit us from defending ourselves and saving our lives. It is you who is inciting hatred by attempting to prohibit our separatism from non-Europeans your hate speech is intolerable Your propaganda and impositions, which are aimed at confusing and misdirecting European people from defending themselves, are intolerable. 53
Posted by antifascist on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:45 | #
The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the white race, which means no more and no less than abolishing the privileges of the white skin. Until that task is accomplished, even partial reform will prove elusive, because white influence permeates every issue, domestic and foreign, in US society. 54
Posted by antifascist on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:49 | # Whiteness is 55
Posted by daniels. on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:02 | # The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the white race
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Posted by antifascist on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:07 | # I do not hate you or anyone else for the color of her skin. What we hate is a system that confers privileges (and burdens) on people because of their color. It is not fair skin that makes people white; it is fair skin in a certain kind of society, one that attaches social importance to skin color. When we say we want to abolish the white race, we do not mean we want to exterminate people with fair skin. We mean that we want to do away with the social meaning of skin color, thereby abolishing the white race as a social category. Consider this parallel: To be against royalty does not mean wanting to kill the king. It means wanting to do away with crowns, thrones, titles, and the privileges attached to them. In our view, whiteness has a lot in common with royalty: they are both social formations that carry unearned advantages. 57
Posted by Wandrin on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:53 | #
You might not. The Jewish supremacists who are using cultural manipulation to engineer the genocide of white people do want that. 58
Posted by daniels. on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:18 | # ......... You say: I do not hate you or anyone else for the color of her skin. Skin tone is not the reason that I nor any European that I know wants to survive and be separate from non-Europeans. I am against these things too except for one point: we are privileged to be and to live with our own - as are you. This is bullshit that you have been taught by Jewish interests and those trained by them. There is an evolutionary category of Europeans distinct by having evolved in the context of Europe for 41,000 years. We as White Nationalists value that more than anything and seek to preserve our existence. Fine, then we must live separately from you because we cannot assimilate your exponential propagation, population, your people’s propensity for violence and the general ramification of your people living amongst us - destruction of our habitats and European co-evolution, Europeans generally have lighter skin than Africans and it is a connected to our genetic evolution (although there are some Europeans who are fairly dark) - it is a genetic evolution 41,000 years old, which we do not want destroyed anymore than you might not want a rainforest, endangered species or for an African tribe to be eliminated. Consider this parallel: To be against royalty does not mean wanting to kill the king. It means wanting to do away with crowns, thrones, titles, and the privileges attached to them. I am a leftist as are many White Nationalists that I know. If you have complaint with elites, White, Jewish or otherwise, who are imposing internationalism as opposed to bio-diversity, who are forcing our mixing and exploitation of our peoples, a distinctly non-ecological agenda of human integration, then you are right to be opposed to them and I agree. In our view, whiteness has a lot in common with royalty: they are both social formations that carry unearned advantages. That may be your view now but it is in need of critical refinement because it is a view that stems from a deliberate distortion to mean all Whites are privileged and guilty of your oppression (instead of a few pigs; along with Jewish elitists and others) a vision sold to you by Jewish interests. There are bad Whites at the top of the money ladder, to be sure. But if you are honest in your concern and inquiry as to whom the elitists are, then your inquiry will lead you to a disproportunate representation by Jewish interests. See Wandrin’s remark - he is right. Jews, though usually White skinned, are not White - their genetics are not predominantly of native European ancestry. These are distinctions that you must make if you do not wish to punish the innocent. For Europeans to want so survive, to live in their own lands, to be with their own women, free of servitude to non-Europeans, is not privilege, it is warranted by our evolution. 59
Posted by antifascist on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 07:21 | # @Hesper
The obsession that white supremacists have, with demonizing all jewish people, is a sign of the white supremacists’ psychoticism, and obsessive -compulsive disorders, and paranoia.
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Posted by daniels. on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 08:35 | # /. Today indecent prole profanities and innuendos and no doubt tomorrow CNN interviews or C-SPAN televised discussions at the Kennedy Centre to spread White-wing views. Those venues are for Jewish windbags like you, Hesper. There already exist a myriad of such Jewish media for you to spew disinformation, as you do. I normally don’t advise banning someone from this site, but you ought to be, because all you do is post up droves of spam in an attempt to drown out careful considerations. You are are worse than worthless. What you do is evil and you should commit suicide. It is also manifest in your bringing this challenged individual with you, planting these lies on his/her pathetic lips:
Jewish people have done no harm to white people, they have been persecuted and tortured, and murdered by white people, for over 1000 years, in the holocaust, in pograms, and crusades. Time to get your facts and causes straight Antifa. How many Whites were killed by Jewish Marxists, in the Gulags, by Dziersinsky, Jagoda, Yusef, Kagananovich to name a few; and through Jewish control of politics, its wars, banking and business, media propaganda brainwashing and demoralization, in the name of its false renditions of rreligion, its academic lies by which it controls the avenue of professionalism and the dissemination of its the kind of evil, anti-White nonsense that they have you mouthing; its control of the law and courts, through which it floods our lands with people like you, subjecting us to your violence, as you are conditioned by them to think you are righteous to be that way against us; along with a presumption that you should be entitled to our lands, resources and people (and you call us elitists antifa?) In any event, neither I nor my ancestors killed any Jews. We want to be free from them in our midst and from their imposition of ignorant, self righteous, impulsive and violent sorts like you - whose heads they fill with bizarre and evil nonsense such as Whites don’t really exist/but they need to be genocided. You have stated your objective to genocide Europeans antifa, so noted. By the way, my ancestors had nothing to do with Black slavery either. The only thing I ever want from you is nothing. 61
Posted by antifascist on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 08:48 | # Most jewish people abhore marxism, especially those jews who lived under the oppression of the national socialist state of the Soviet Union. You cannot specifically name one ocassion in history, where jewish people committed genocide against white people, or pogroms, or crusades against white people. Your beliefs about all jews, are based on psychotic speculation about a big jewish conspiracy, that 13.5 million people, who happen to be jewish are involved in, against white people. This believe of yours is Alex jones style paranoia, except with an underlying psychotic white supremacist ideology, instead of an ambiguous hatred of “the globalists” in the case of Alex Jones. 62
Posted by Wandrin on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:09 | # antifat Jewish supremacists are attempting to use cultural manipulation to engineer the global genocide of White people. 63
Posted by daniels. on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:30 | # Posted by antifascist on November 01, 2012, 08:48 AM | # Most jewish people abhore marxism, especially those jews who lived under the oppression of the national socialist state of the Soviet Union. You cannot specifically name one ocassion in history, where jewish people committed genocide against white people, or pogroms, or crusades against white people. Your beliefs about all jews, are based on psychotic speculation about a big jewish conspiracy, that 13.5 million people, who happen to be jewish are involved in, against white people. This believe of yours is Alex jones style paranoia, except with an underlying psychotic white supremacist ideology, instead of an ambiguous hatred of “the globalists” in the case of Alex Jones.
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Posted by uKn_Leo on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:06 | # Posted by daniels. on November 01, 2012, 09:30 AM | # ‘Is it really necessary to have this idiot post here?’
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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:09 | #
Agree. These Aliynskyite trolls seem to show up at every blog they perceive as counter to their Cultural Marxist agenda. In truth these slippery little slimeball commies are, in all actuality, reverse nazis. I.e. their hateful modus operandi is to relentlessly and maliciously demonize anyone —repeat, ANYONE —that defends the right of the white race to exist.
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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:09 | #
Agree. These Aliynskyite trolls seem to show up at every blog they perceive as counter to their Cultural Marxist agenda. In truth these slippery little slimeball commies are, in all actuality, reverse nazis. I.e. their hateful modus operandi is to relentlessly and maliciously demonize anyone —repeat, ANYONE —that defends the right of the white race to exist.
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Posted by uKn_Leo on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:44 | # They’re complete morons Thorn. They (Anti-Fa) recently lobbied so hard to ban a far right protest in a part of London that the police banned any protest whatsoever for a month and flooded that area with police. Full police state crackdown on our democratic right to protest. The Anti-Fa claimed this as a great victory. They were on the ground reporting anyone they thought looked ‘far-rightish’ to the police. Over here they are allied with Radical Islamists. Mugs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVjtK1_OtsE
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Posted by Leon Haller on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:09 | # Are we just talking to ourselves (or to unconvertable, psychologically deranged antiwhite “antiracists”), or are we all doing our parts relentlessly pushing our views across the mainstream internet? I saw an article on Yahoo about a new generation Chinese stealth fighter plane, and so quickly posted the following:
We need to be out in the mainstream every chance we get.
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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:12 | # They’re complete morons Thorn. Vile radical leftist zombies, IMO. It seems the greatist talent they posses is to memorize then repeat the talking points given to them by their handlers— Ignatiev in antifascist’s case. They demonstrate rote learning in its worst form Anyway, they’re not worth the time of day. 70
Posted by Leon Haller on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:15 | # Saw article on threat of transnational crime gangs, posted this:
We gotta be out there, folks, hitting the enemy again and again ... fine arguments for intellectuals are important, but perhaps repetitive sloganeering may ultimately prove more effective? 71
Posted by uKn_Leo on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:22 | # Posted by Leon Haller on November 01, 2012, 03:09 PM | # ‘Are we just talking to ourselves (or to unconvertable, psychologically deranged antiwhite “antiracists”), or are we all doing our parts relentlessly pushing our views across the mainstream internet?’
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Posted by uKn_Leo on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:27 | # ‘fine arguments for intellectuals are important, but perhaps repetitive sloganeering may ultimately prove more effective?’ Good point Leon. I’ll handle the intellectuals and you do the sloganeering! 73
Posted by Dude @antifa on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:45 | # Hey antifascist, it’s great to be racist, jump on in - the water’s lovely and warm! “Until that task is accomplished, even partial reform will prove elusive” People of European descent will always be aware of their common descent and therefore their membership of ‘the white race’ (and more locally their English, German, Italian descent too). By imposing costs on whites as whites you increase their awareness of this. When Europeans lose their leading position in society, you can be assured of the direction, take a look at Zimbabwe or South Africa (or Detroit). Therefore your political activism is based on utter futility. But please don’t let me stop you. Emote antifacist, emote! 74
Posted by Thorn on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:53 | #
I think so. Evidently the experts that produce political ads do to. They know the vast majority of people think in sound-bites and slogans. Hence the core messages of the candidates—from both major parties— is conveyed via sound-bites, pullquotes and slogans. We must keep in mind, the grasp of politics for the average person goes no deeper than: the Dems are for the little guy, and the Goopers are for the rich. That’s the mentality we are dealing with. It’s not the the average guy of gal is stupid; it is, at least at this moment, their interests lie in other frivolous areas. Our monumental task is to make them aware that Whites/Euro-Christians are the target of defamation…and how to fight back. 75
Posted by Mick Lately on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 19:04 | # I agree with Leon Haller about not giving the enemy any respite. The comments sections on Yahoo! News articles are an easy target. One phrase I sometimes use is: “we are being done away with”, instead of “White Genocide”, though I use the latter also. A phrase like “eliding our existence” may well not even register. Perhaps a little bit of tabloid terror is needed, “buried beneath the patio of history” or something like that. 76
Posted by Lurker on Thu, 01 Nov 2012 22:42 | #
But, according to you, jewish people dont exist. Its only whites who separate themselves out socially/culturally using their trick knowledge and racism, therefore everyone else must be the same as each other, thus jews do not exist. How could whites have holocausts, pogroms, and crusades against the jews when the jews dont exist, how do whites separate them out from everyone else? But….
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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 02 Nov 2012 09:02 | # h/t Robert Lindsay Race Does Not Exist
Click to enlarge. Nigerians or Africans (no such thing) in light blue. Europeans or Caucasians (no such thing) in green and red. Asians (no such thing) in purple and blue. The nonexistent entities called Africans, Asians and Europeans are demonstrated in this chart. These constructs do not exist, nor do they differ from each other. That they seem to be plotting quite distinctly on this chart is simply an optical illusion. If you disagree, you are a racist scum and hopefully soon we will even be able to arrest you. —- As you can see from this chart made by some racist mad scientist, race is clearly a social construct. His research violated the new Law of Political Correctness, and agents are shutting down his lab as I write this.
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Posted by daniels on Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:17 | # ........... Thorn, You are doing the Jews work for them when you jam the word “social construct” as if it is an idealist concept and that race and other things are MERE social constructs. They are happy for the notion to be flouted because it takes agency and accountability away from us. That is how they want it understood - as a farce. They want people to continue to understand it in the Cartesian sense in which you apply it and not in the anti-Cartesian, realist sense in which it was conceived. Vico, a Catholic monk, was developing thoughts on its line as a remedy to Cartesianism. Social constructionism, properly understood is realist, not idealist: The European race would be a real co-construction through our evolution, which we are jointly (as in, partly) responsible for creating and for maintaining. People who mock the notion generally feel obligated to put the word “mere” before social construct, as in race is a “mere” social construct, for a reason - because that is the sense in which it would be absurd, indeed. You may say that the notion becomes absurd anyway when you begin to consider say, Australopithecine socially constructing their race. But it is not really absurd, in two or more senses. First, they were probably exercising some choice and social negotiation in mating. Secondly we are negotiating a choice in how those Australopithecine count from our contemporary perspective. We can take that understanding as far back in evolution as possible. Living organisms never lived in isolation and we are, at a minimum, using socially negotiated judgments as to how the product of this evolution counts (and if we are not here to make those judgments and talk about them, what does it matter?). Just as we are saying that the very real 41,000 years of European evolution counts more than anything for us, even though we could, potentially, take our evolution and construct it in another direction - e.g., mulatto. We, as socially constructing the European race, are not bound to have it just merely be subject to forces, impacts or Jews. We have agency and are accountable for its maintenance and defense. They want to say that our people, our race, is a mere and an ideal construct; then they can apply whatever unimportant or evil attributes they can to us - providing pseudo justifications for genocide even. But it is for us to assert the truth, that we, our race are not mere social construct, we are a real social construct and the most important thing in the world. I have used this example before: the opposite view from social constructionism would hold that non-White migration into White lands is a force of nature, that its flows are a product of chance. A social constructionist view would hold that these migrations are a result of social negotiation - we would say mis-negotiation - and that there IS accountability for where the problem comes from and we DO have the agency to reverse it. 79
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:04 | #
Daniels, Me thinks you’re reading too much into a simple (yet brilliant) satirical piece. All Robert Lindsay did was to illustrate how absurd “race is a social construct” canard by being absurd himself. Or as El Rushbo what say: “Illustrating the absurd with absurdity.” And you think I’m doing the Jews work? Laughable. First of all, I no longer buy into the Jews are doing it to us (some are, some aren’t). I beleive the Left/liberals are doing it to us - and of course the leftists/liberlas come in all ethnicities and religions… including atheists.. Besides, their are too many Jews that absolutely detest the agenda of radical liberals. The late Andrew Breitbart comes to mind. A real intrepid tireless warrior who fought against the cultural Marxists tooth and nail right up until his last breath. There are many Jews that not only despise the Left in general, but, moreover, they absolutely despise evil leftist Jews too! They are wise enough to know its the leftist Jews that regenerate anti-Semitism. Talk show host Michael Savage alludes to it on a regular basis. Back to Breitbart. A true right-wing warrior/general that is sorely missed in the war against the Cultural Marxists. He had the balls to get right up in the leftist freaks’ grills. HEH! Check him out in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILZQSmE5Uu0 Typical Breitbart. Ya gotta love him!
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Posted by daniels. on Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:54 | # ..\ I understand what he is trying to do, but he is doing a disservice by distracting from the important reasons and uses of social constructionism, by not noting important distinctions as I have indicated.
I tried to explain how it is not absurd when understood properly as realist. If it is construed as a mere social construct, as Jewish Marxist and liberal academics are wont to do, then it is absurd.
Laughable.
They certainly are not our only problem: traitors high and low, operating on obsolete notions of different kinds are among our greatest difficulties. Of course there are other groups besides Jews who are problematic as well. However, in distinct pattern, Jewish elites are not doing us any favors in the realm of: Banking, Media, Academics, Law/Courts, Politics, Religion. The evidence is overwhelming.
Where does that culture of left/liberalism come from? Is Kevin MacDonald an idiot? I have been quick to note other problems, more of our making, but I have the sense that it will be futile to broach here.
There are Jews who are not so bad, just as there are Blacks that are not so bad. The pattern is the issue - how it affects us. Jews are basically a race that care very much about themselves and not about Whites. That is all the more true among their most powerful decision makers. As for those who despise “The Left”, Jewish Capitalists and Jewish Liberals are every bit as problematic as Jewish Leftists, cultural Marxists. Just ask Bernake and co. about his bail-out. There are many Jews that not only despise the Left in general, but, moreover, they absolutely despise evil leftist Jews too! Talk show host Michael Savage alludes to it on a regular basis. They are “wise” enough to know that they better allow for some steam letting, diversion and controlled opposition. Back to Breitbart. A true right-wing warrior/general that is sorely missed in the war against the Cultural Marxists. He had the balls to get right up in the leftist freaks’ grills. Not familiar with him, but you must understand that Jewish interests play both sides. They can make very clever arguments against either side. Nevertheless, when our side pursues a “rightist” agenda, we are easy prey for them because we are not organized as a union - a union of Whites. Unlike Jewish leftism, White leftism is a whole different matter - it functions as a union for Whites (i.e. native Europeans as a class with subclasses) only and allows for: private property, free enterprise, wealth, different individual and community ways, provided they are accountable to and do not rupture the union of Whites and their sub-nations.
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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:57 | #
No. K-Mac does a masterful job of painting a part of the picture. However he only painted part of the picture, albeit a significant part. Viewing the whole picture give us the proper perspective. It’s often said “the definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results?” I think it more defines stupidity than insanity, but that’s just me. Anyway, I say that to say this: Too many “WNs” make the mistake of blaming “the Jews” for own current predicament. “The Jews are behind it all! they assert! When the average Joe or Jill hears someone spouting such statements, they immediately make a value judgement about that person; and beleive me, it ain’t a good one. It’s a universal given that you cannot condemn a whole group of people for the actions of some within that group. If you do so, then prepare to be roundly rejected. Another example is Catholics. I absolutely despise the actions of some liberal Catholics (and we all know there are legions of liberal Catholics.) However nobody in their right mind would condemn ALL Catholics as enemies of Whites on account of the nauseating lib Catholics. But WNs continue to make such mistakes. Thus the WN movement continues to be refudiated (a little Sarah Palin ling there, heh!) by the masses. So the question is: Do WNs continues to do the same thing and expect different results? or should we try a different approach? I say the latter. I found this over at The Mad Jewess’ blog. It illustrates just how easy it is to make fun of people whom are openly anti-Semitic thus delegitimize us. 82
Posted by Leon Haller on Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:53 | # The trick, gents, is gradual radicalization, as I keep saying to no avail. Start with making ending the immigration invasion the centerpiece of WN. Nothing is more important than terminating this constant increase in our competitors’-cum-enemies’ numbers. This would be a huge victory if achieved (anywhere). Who says we have to stop with that, however? Once we end the invasion, momentum will be with us, the wind at our backs, and we start then pressing for more serious demands. We keep doing this - upping the ante - until we have truly radicalized the white population in a nationalist direction without their having even known it. In mature democracies one rarely gets from Point A to Z, or even A to E. It takes a very special set of circumstances (as surrounded the passage of Obamacare). The traitor Bush could have ended immigration, or at least militarized the Mexican border, after 9/11. But to expect to get whites to go from PC Diversity to WN all at once is ludicrous. They need to be husbanded along. The initial starting points are areas where we already have majority agreement, like enforcement of immigration laws wrt illegal aliens, ending affirmative action preferences, and cracking down on (mostly nonwhite) crime. Once we have mentally toughened up whites by forcing them to take sides, to think about, these kinds of issues, and once we have actually gone through the political firestorm of doing something on them, whites will have become psychologically conditioned to accept greater radicalization. This is called “outflanking the Jews”. 83
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 02 Nov 2012 17:21 | #
You’re absolutely right, Leon. We already have at least two organizations up and running working on that very issue. One being VDARE.com, The other, a more mainstream org with more lobbying clout is Numbers USA. Numbers USA is to immigration reform as the NRA is to preserving our Second Amendment rights. We MUST support one or the other or both. On a related issue, the blogger Tanstaafl was asking why whites don’t form an organization whose function is to defend whites and initiates legal action against those who deliberately defame and slander white people. Again one already exists. http://www.resistingdefamation.org/ We need to support them too. The more funds they take in, the more talent they can hire….that means that more legal action can be initiated. But alas, what we need most is a top notch marketing campaign to make our movement more attractive. Particularly more attractive than the “anti-racist” cretins. But, of course, it takes lots of money to hire the most creative ad agencies. We desperately need the best and brightest creative people to craft messages and slogans that put us in the best light. I’m sorry to offend, but slogans such “anti-racism is code for anti-White” ain’t good enough. It has very little meaning or impact to the hoi polloi. 84
Posted by daniels on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 01:02 | # ........ My understanding is that in the U.S., anyway, local and popular anti-immigration sentiments have been continually overturned, primarily by Jewish political and legal interests. The 1965 Immigration Act spear headed by Emanuel Celler is well known. The manner in which courts, such as the 9th Circuit, simply overturn popular anti-immigration vote as a Alex Kozinkski (July 23, 1950) is Chief Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
The majority found the due process rights of a man accused of smuggling illegal immigrants across the border were not violated because witnesses who could have exonerated him were deported before they could be deposed. Despite winning, federal prosecutors, apparently pushed by Kozinski’s dissent, dropped all charges and released the defendant.[14][15] In 2012, after prosecutors used similar tactics in another case, United States v. Leal-Del Carmen, Kosinski’s position in Ramirez-Lopez became the law in the Ninth Circuit. 85
Posted by antifascist on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 03:40 | # I can easily debunk your anti-jewish hate speech, with this article by Tim Wise, @daniels, you need medication from a psychiatrist for your psychotic mental illness. Good night white pride!
For years I’ve been told to ignore this stuff. “Why respond?” some would ask. “Nothing can change the minds of people this deranged.” But while the last point here may well be true, there are still good reasons to engage the arguments made by professional (or, for that matter, amateur) Jew Haters. Even the most absurd statements can become accepted if they go unrefuted by persons more concerned about remaining above the fray, than challenging stupidity from the outset. The belief that the Holocaust of European Jewry never happened, for example, which would have been considered evidence of cerebral damage a few decades ago, is now widespread throughout parts of Europe. Likewise, beliefs that Jews control the media and economy are increasingly heard on the internet and elsewhere.
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Posted by Bill on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 04:19 | # There’s a thread at the Telegraph (3/11/2012) which amply demonstrates evidence of what this thread is all about. A Seemingly mundane run of the mill article for such a claim, but a major plank none- the- less.
The bait is liberalism, the reality is….. 87
Posted by daniels. on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 04:32 | # Posted by antifascist on November 03, 2012, 03:40 AM | # I can easily debunk your anti-jewish hate speech, with this article by Tim Wise, @daniels, you need medication from a psychiatrist for your psychotic mental illness. Good night white pride! You don’t seem to understand scumbag spammer: we do not want anything from you. We want to be separate from you. You are quoting from “tick tock tick tock” Tim Wise? We know better. Good night scumbag who would genocide my people. 88
Posted by antifascist on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 04:40 | # @Bill, yes liberalism is a decadence and vicious economic system, that relies on the exploitation of the working class. The answer to the criminal, liberal, corrupt economic and political system, is International Communism. Here is a segment of Engels’ Thesis.
The slave frees himself when, of all the relations of private property, he abolishes only the relation of slavery and thereby becomes a proletarian; the proletarian can free himself only by abolishing private property in general.
Simultaneously, this process draws members of the bourgeoisie and proletarians together into the great cities where industry can be carried on most profitably, and by thus throwing great masses in one spot it gives to the proletarians a consciousness of their own strength.
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It is impossible, of course, to carry out all these measures at once. But one will always bring others in its wake. Once the first radical attack on private property has been launched, the proletariat will find itself forced to go ever further, to concentrate increasingly in the hands of the state all capital, all agriculture, all transport, all trade. All the foregoing measures are directed to this end; and they will become practicable and feasible, capable of producing their centralizing effects to precisely the degree that the proletariat, through its labor, multiplies the country’s productive forces. Finally, when all capital, all production, all exchange have been brought together in the hands of the nation, private property will disappear of its own accord, money will become superfluous, and production will so expand and man so change that society will be able to slough off whatever of its old economic habits may remain.
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Posted by daniels. on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 04:45 | # You don’t seem to understand scumbag spammer: We do not want your labor. We do not want anything from you. We want to be separate from you. Good night scumbag who would genocide my people. 90
Posted by antifascist on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 04:46 | # @Daniels If you want to refute me, Cite your scholarly sources, references, and footnotes, in an appropriate manner. Don’t just hurl juvenile, schoolyard insults, you nazi white supremacist. Prove to me, that this ” white genocide” is real, via scholarly references, from reputable academics, and professors. Or cease to insult my superior intellect, with your average joe nazi, unscholarly anti-jewish rhetoric. 91
Posted by daniels. on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:12 | # ////// @Daniels If you want to refute me, Cite your scholarly sources, references, and footnotes, in an appropriate manner. I don’t owe you an explanation dirt bag. There is an abundance of proof. Go look it up yourself.
I don’t owe you an explanation for defending my people and for wanting to live separately from you and other non-Whites, slime ball. You want some data? Here you go fat lips: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_birth_rate
Or cease to insult my superior intellect, with your average joe nazi, unscholarly anti-jewish rhetoric. Stick a banana in your mouth, monkey. There is nothing that we need from you. That is all you need to know. 92
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 08:05 | # From the piece Bill linked to @ 86
Bringing the “right to take offence” theme down to the street level, Velociworld has some very pertinent observations:
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Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:00 | # Thorn@83 Yes, I have donated to NumbersUSA, and I am a member of the NRA. I don’t know exactly what the answer is to how to spread our message most effectively. Basically, everything helps, meaning if more whites were interested in their own racial perpetuity, we could win this - though if more whites had a natural sense of racial honor and concern, we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place! That’s the WN paradox, as well as the ultimate basis for “White Zion”. Most whites just don’t care enough about the preservation of nation, civilization, and race, and thus (real, ethnonational) patriots end up being political minorities everywhere, even though, if we from all the white territories ingathered to a single sovereign polity, we would constitute a sizable as well as powerful nation. And in the age of the internet, global telecommunications, and cheap airline travel, WZ is less of an uprooting than any previous mass migration. But I guess people are driven by desperation, and things just aren’t bad enough yet. (Plus, there is no WZ movement; it’s jus an idea). One thing about strategy that I do understand is that trying to persuade large numbers of people through full and immediate presentation of racial truth is a surefire loser (especially when some of that “truth” is either morally repugnant or factually problematic). People psychologically are conditioned by their environments. I would imagine WNs in general (beyond simple racists) are more intelligent - not necessarily cognitively, though probably that, too, to some extent, but in terms of being able to perceive reality more clearly (at least as it impinges on race) - than the general white population. We are obviously more naturally insulated from brainwashing. But there’s no use whining; we have to work with the materials at hand. To save the white race, what we really need is a kind of mass-membership racial conservative (not nationalist) movement. Look at the Jews (or racial minorities). They have hundreds or thousands of US organizations dedicated to “advancing Jewish interests”. All are ethnocultural or nationalist - but only a few are real ‘hate groups’. I would argue that whites actually have more racist hate groups than they do positive, ethnocultural activist ones dedicated to “advancing the interests of the white community”. I think this is the key (bridge) to our Cause’s growth. What we need is American Nationalism, not White Nationalism. Much of the pragmatic policy agenda is the same, but the underlying ideology is much more palatable to whites - nonwhites, Jews and race traitors would still denounce and attack us, but they hate us anyway. Our task is to appeal to white conservatives who could be made to understand our racial problems, but who will not endorse (at least initially) white racism. That is the real political ‘space’ that needs to be usefully filled now (even if the ultimate goal is the White Republic, whether secessionist or White Zionist). 94
Posted by antifascist on Sun, 04 Nov 2012 02:08 | # @Daniels
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Posted by Silver on Sun, 04 Nov 2012 02:26 | # Leon,
What? That’s ridiculous. God you are dumb, Haller. As if advertising works! Everyone knows that people only buy BMWs after lengthy hours spent poring over engineering reports and statistics, eventually tentatively concluding that, yes, a BWM does appear to represent the pinnacle of motor vehicle craftsmanship. daniels, Your problem is you possess abundant racial passion but lack racial prowess. You would think that after all the energy you’ve poured into penning those rambling race essays you might have learned a thing or two about the optimal responses to standard anti-racist attacks. But noooooo. What a cinch you make it for antis to feel morally justified.
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Posted by Silver on Sun, 04 Nov 2012 02:59 | # Mick,
That’s all well and good (and undeniably true), but unfortunately, in the hands of the highly motivated racial activist, by appearing to urge action, it still tends to have the effect of making you sound unreasonable. Most people hear that and tell themselves they “know where all this is going.” In their minds it’s just another part of your endless campaign to slip racism under the radar, to sugarcoat what you’re all about. That’s certainly not to say they necessarily like what’s going on, but I think experience bears me out that if people perceive an objective as not easily achievable they consider it all but unachievable and urging them to attempt it (particularly while ignoring their concerns about it) has the effect of annoying them more than inspiring them. Compare the urge to action to simply securing rejection of the anti-white paradigm. The latter doesn’t require people to do anything. In sharp contrast to urging action, it’s very easy to say yes to and very difficult to say no to. And very importantly, people who reject the anti-white paradigm tend to cease resisting “the racists”—even if they remain convinced that many racists “go to far,” and are put off by this, it’s no longer the deal-breaker it once was. Now, I’m sure you’re not in the least bit interested in any advice I may have to offer (and what a coup on my part if, as many contend, I am “the enemy” and my advice happens to be sound) but I think it’s worth pondering (go on, be a devil). 97
Posted by uKn_Leo on Sun, 04 Nov 2012 03:22 | # So how’s that communism working out for you around the world so far antifascist?
On tyrants only we’ll make war’
Stalin. Mao. Castro. Jung IL. etc etc etc
Have you heard of the expression ‘useful idiot’, perchance? 98
Posted by daniels. on Sun, 04 Nov 2012 03:34 | # .. We are all members of the one and only human race, this brilliant communist song’s lyrics, should educate you to this fact. We evolved from ape-like creatures such as yourself, but that does not mean that our vastly different species can survive imposed interaction - which you are indeed, trying to force. We want and need to be free from your vastly different biology: its over grazing, violence and arrogation of resources. We want to be free from your hyper-assertiveness and its self righteous arrogation of partners, exponential breeding, out of marriage and so young as to lead straight to poverty, at our expense, disease, violence, destruction. “anti-facist”, you should be convicted for inciting and promoting genocide of Whites, murdering, raping, killing off our people, taking their vital resources and destroying our habitats. You are trying to affix your violent and parasitic people to Whites so that you can leech off of us, subsume us and take our lands - you have the nerve to come here, where I was minding my own business, attending to the cause of saving my people and tell me what the law should be, the evil notion that insulting words should be cause for imprisonment, and you compound your evil by saying it should be applied differently to my people and yours? You call me a “nazi” a “white supremacist”? You evil, self righteous, ape. We do not want or need anything from you.
Your problem is you possess abundant racial passion but lack racial prowess. You don’t know me. I do not rise above the truth, like you and your failed tactics do, I assert the truth. You would think that after all the energy you’ve poured into penning those rambling race essays Where is the ramble and waste, Silver? It isn’t there. I am not issuing forth mere rambling words. They ramble from your uncaring framework, not for people who care about what is relevant to European interests. you might have learned a thing or two about the optimal responses to standard anti-racist attacks. I am supposed to cower from the evil threats of this idiot, who thinks people should go to jail for using words that are insulting to him, while he should be able to do just the same? Time to change that. But noooooo. What a cinch you make it for antis to feel morally justified. They are not justified. And, on the contrary, I make that more clear than right-wingers.
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Posted by Silver on Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:47 | #
Well, sure, I would agree (mostly) with this assessment. The problem is most people don’t, and would seriously struggle to understand why you portray the issue that way. Isn’t that obvious? I do not rise above the truth, like you and your failed tactics do, I assert the truth. Don’t be silly. It’s not merely about “truth”; it’s a matter of focus. What should people focus their attention on? Antis would have it that people should focus on all the ways in which whites are “evil,” all the ways in which whites “oppress” non-whites, all the ways in which whites owe non-whites, all the ways in which whites live large on the back of “white privilege,” and so on; and antis have been very successful in this endeavor. You, on the other hand, would prefer focus were on all the ways in which whites suffer under the anti-racist dispensation and cite facts in order to draw attention to it; but it cannot be said that you have been successful in this endeavor. Quite simply, antis have been winning. Their “facts” (actually, very often lies) elbow yours out. (Other racialists cite facts that highlight how superior whites are and what glories await whites who adopt a racial identity based on superiority, but their facts are also elbowed out.) Obviously antis were aided enormously by their capture of the media and universities, but so pathetic has the racialist response been that I happen to think it would have been a rout even if antis had been forced to compete on a level playing field. Please take a minute to view this propaganda video featuring the Israeli Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGYxLWUKwWo I think it does an excellent job of presenting the Israeli position as reasonable and those opposed as unreasonable, but even more importantly it shifts the focus onto the status of the West Bank, rather than on the propriety of the establishment of Israel itself. There’s no reason to believe that the existence of Israel is of less importance to Jews than the existence of the white race is to whites, but the casual, easygoing, non-threatening, conversational tone of the presentation is worlds apart from the feverish moral earnestness of “The White Genocide Project” and pretty much every other WN propaganda effort I’ve seen. Or consider this press conference about “lawfare” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMF7guy2KkA It’s .hugely important for them, but there’s none of the speechifying so characteristic (and, typically, off-putting) of WN conferences. Seriously, compare that to the wild exhortations of a Jonathan Bowden and ponder why even something as fundamental to group wellbeing as white racial representation is not even on the map. 100
Posted by daniels on Sun, 04 Nov 2012 07:37 | # /. I haven’t been at this long. The angle that I am taking has coalesced over the past few years and I’m just getting it out there. I like its chances very much because it does have the moral high ground; and I haven’t really seen anybody refute me as far as I am concerned. On the contrary, I see it gaining momentum. There are some right wing arguments against me that are better than others. Some might say that we need Christians and Christianity as they have the numbers, history and tradition of devaluing Jewish power. However, I see our growing secularism and alternative moral order rendering that contention less and less important. People will want to survive, and Christianity is a convoluted means to survival at best. Anti-racism is to deny the right to make taxonomic classifications of different peoples and to discriminate on the basis of those classifications. It is Cartesian: it is not innocent. It is prejudiced. It is hurting and it is killing people. Well, this is Majority Rights, probably the most intellectual of the websites concerned for European peoples. Therefore, I might state things in an exacting form. I might try something else for a broad audience, starting with this: Anti-racism is not innocent. It is prejudiced. It is hurting and it is killing people. That is something that will be felt for its truth. Then if they ask me what the hell I am talking about, I might add: That is so because it is basically a movement to deny the classification of different peoples and the legitimate discrimination to systemically manage moral and ecological considerations on the basis of those classifications. Ecological management and accountability is not feasible otherwise. ... In a sense, Silver, you are criticizing me for the context to the thread: White genocide. It is not my preferred argument, not by far (not the most ecological argument) But it is valid, and since some of my posts were moved here, I wound up arguing on this thread - fine. It is important. In the context of this thread I might sound, even be, more shrill than usual. It is not that I am not open to different approaches, especially in different contexts. I wouldn’t deny that WN’s can learn a few things from Israeli rhetoric - Jews are experts with language. However, there is no need for us to be as dishonest and exploitative as they are. And there are times and places when being loud and mean is the way to be (they would tell you that too). 101
Posted by Thorn on Mon, 05 Nov 2012 07:43 | #
. Leon, Perhaps it might be a good idea to consider Steve Sailer’s “citizenism” as a step in the right direction leading us to WP, WN or WZ (whichever you prefer). I know the hard core WNs (and some not so hard core) reject Sailors proposition. But I for one think its a commonsensical place to start. Right off the bat, we’d get 99% of the TEA Party pulling for our side. A movement like taht has REAL potential to succeed…even in this hyper PC environment. “citizenism” is not only a logical step in the right direction, it has sufficient built-in insulation from the usual attacks and name calling by the multicults and “anti-racists” etc. —- Stave Sailor speaking: He [Jared Taylor] has objected to my calling myself a “citizenist”, arguing:
Yet, as the swordsman Inigo Montoya tells the villain Vizzini in the movie The Princess Bride, “I do not think that word means what you think it means.” Sourse, and worth the read: http://www.vdare.com/articles/citizenism-vs-white-nationalism-ii-sailer-sums-up And of course “citizenism” —or some variation of such—can always be tweaked, modified and adjusted as needed. 103
Posted by DanielS on Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:25 | # [11:18:58 AM] Лариса: We`ll go to watch a ballet performance 104
Posted by Tam on Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:16 | # I came upon your site and found some of it interesting, however if left me curious about something. If the white race is being abolished due to race mixing, then correct me if I am wrong but what is happening to the other races they are mixing with? Are they not essentially being abolished or washed out as well? I mean surely this is not only affecting the white race. 105
Posted by DanielS on Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:39 | # Posted by Tam on January 03, 2013, 04:16 PM | # I came upon your site and found some of it interesting, however if left me curious about something. If the white race is being abolished due to race mixing, then correct me if I am wrong but what is happening to the other races they are mixing with? Are they not essentially being abolished or washed out as well? I mean surely this is not only affecting the white race.
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Posted by Mandzukic on Tue, 22 Jan 2013 08:44 | # @Tam, are you serious? Because Asian countries are almost entirely filled with Asian people, if all the non-Asians in Asian countries “assimilate” (i.e. intermarry) with Asians, Asian countries will still be almost entirely Asian; same for Negro/black countries, Arab countries, etc. However, if all the non-whites living in white countries “assimilate” (i.e. intermarry) with whites, a GREAT portion of my RACE, the Aryan/white RACE, disappears. GENOCIDE is the physical destruction of a RACE in whole or in part; IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE VIOLENT! No other RACE is facing this Annihilation-by-assimilation. And my RACE, the Aryan RACE, is a small global minority compared to Asians and Negros to boot! Aryans never approved of massive 3rd world immigration, FORCED desegregation/integration and “assimilation” in EVERY white country and ONLY white countries; not to mention the 24/7 miscegenation marketing, and “anti-racist” campaigns that ONLY exist in Aryan countries and ALWAYS target Aryans. Turning white countries into brown/3rd-world countries also happens to be the DUMBEST idea/policy in human history. GENOCIDE is the most serious crime, and stupidity is a Capital Offense. Anti-whites are guilty on both counts; therefore, their future for anti-whites IS the abyss. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white. 107
Posted by DanielS. on Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:06 | # Kemau Kambon “The one idea is: how are we going to exterminate White people because that is in my estimation is the only conclusion. We have to exterminate White people off the face of the earth. We cannot be diverted from coming up with a solution to the problem on this planet and the problem is White people.” 108
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:19 | # Something to seriously consider when trying to understand how and why the moral degeneration of American culture occurred. — Modern liberalism may not be quite the correct name for what I have in mind. I use the phrase to mean the latest stage of the liberalism that has been growing in the West for at least two and a half centuries, and probably longer. Nor does this suggest that I think liberalism was always a bad idea. So long as it was tempered by opposing authorities and traditions[Thorn note: That authority, of course, was the Church], it was a splendid idea. It is the collapse of those tempering forces that has brought us to a triumphant modern liberalism with all the cultural and social degradation that follows in its wake. If you do not think “modern liberalism” an appropriate name, substitute “radical liberalism” or “sentimental liberalism” or even, save us, post- liberalism.” Whatever name is used, most readers will recognize the species. The defining characteristics of modern liberalism are radical egalitarianism (the equality of outcomes rather than of opportunities) and radical individualism (the drastic reduction of limits to personal gratification). These may seem an odd pair, for individualism means liberty and liberty produces inequality, while equality of outcomes means coercion and coercion destroys liberty. If they are to operate simultaneously, radical egalitarianism and radical individualism, where they would compete, must be kept apart, must operate in different areas of life. That is precisely what we see in today’s culture. Modern liberalism very different in content from the liberalism of, say, the 1940s or 1950s, and certainly different from the liberalism of the last century. The sentiments and beliefs that drive it, however, are the same: the ideals of liberty and equality. These ideals produced the great political, social, and cultural achievements of Western civilization, but no ideal, however worthy, can be pressed forever without turning into something else, turning in fact into its opposite. This is what is happening now. Not a single American institution, from popular music to higher education to science, has remained untouched. (Robert H. Bork, Slouching Toward Gomorrah, pp. 4, 5, 6.) 109
Posted by DanielS. on Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:02 | # Thorn, is this last post of yours particularly relevant to “The White Genocide Project” or is it that you have some kind of idea that perhaps you or “the Church” must have the last word? 110
Posted by Thorn on Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:19 | # Daniels, I wasn’t paying attention and accidentally posted it here. It was meant for the Las Vegas is a Shining Beacon of Nihilism thread. Maybe GW or Lurker could move it there? 111
Posted by DanielS. on Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:25 | # aha. I’ve done that a couple times myself, posted in the wrong place. 112
Posted by daniel on Thu, 31 Jan 2013 04:43 | # It can be victimized to help oneself armed combat let 113
Posted by Thorn on Thu, 23 May 2013 12:37 | # He has all the fundamentals down. Twilight introduction http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Dg5N4JPPDXE 114
Posted by Thesis Editing on Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:45 | # Hello, I was actually googling for information on Thesis Editing and then I ended up on your website. Regina 115
Posted by Wesley Clark and Nicholas Sarkozy on Wed, 08 Jul 2015 13:32 | # At Red Ice, Tim Murdoch presents the case for high level intent to genocide Whites. Clear examples: 1. General Wesley Clark’s statement that: 2. Nicholas Sarkozy, who proclaimed that if “volunteerism” won’t work to force miscegenation then “coercion must be used”.. Post a comment:
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You are a racist anti-semite. You spew forth, lies and fascist propaganda. White supremacy is evil, and murderous, all of you racists should be imprisoned for inciting racial hatred, your hate speech is intolerable.
Posted by Frank on Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:29 | #
A role friends serve is to offer good advice. I really didn’t mean to criticise you though mate.
Ah, that’s not to say an anonymous person like me you’ve met off and on at different sites over the years is a “friend” (beware Internet strangers!)