Posted by ptet on Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:07 | #

You are only just posting this?

The stats in the video were debunked here.

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:46 | #

I didn’t see the propaganda debunked in your linked article, I saw it critiqued.  The difference is that the intellectually honest route—attacking the strongest points of your opponent—was utterly displaced by the intellectually dishonest route—attacking the weakest points of your opponent.  The propaganda is myth (which is why it is called propaganda rather than scientific publication), but it remains true myth until someone actually describes why it is not plausible that Christian culture is going to be largely replaced by Muslim culture throughout the Eurosphere within the foreseeable future.

Posted by Captainchaos on Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:31 | #

Ptet,

Your navel-gazing secular humanism cum libertarianism is laughable.  We here advocate the genetic survival of our race.  And are fully committed to doing whatever we must to secure that.  But, for a guy like you, the question will arise, What’s in it for me?  Well, only all that makes life worth living in this world which can only be had with your own people.  Did you get that last part?

Posted by Euro on Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:55 | #

The stats in the video were debunked here.

I wonder why triumphalist outbursts by Islamic “leaders” to more or less the same affect as Bowery’s video,were not brought up in all of the “debunking” fun?Are Europeans wrong to wish to resist Muslim invasion,or not?

Posted by torgrim on Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:47 | #

“Showering all the loot on Turd Worlders so they can maintain a sky-high birth rate..” Fred Scrooby

On the other side of the Atlantic, the 15%ers have seen to it that Big AG. gets their slave labor and foist the costs onto the white middle class. An example, Driscoll a huge grower of berries, world wide, has developed a large strawberry that they ship by truck, called a, “hot load”, two drivers, from the west coast to the NY markets (3000mi.), without shutting off the rig. The berries sell for enormous profit on the East Coast.
We have hospitals like the one in Salinas Ca., Natividad closing down.
http://www.montereyherald.com/local.ci_11550197
and reopening and shutting down, due to the “Anchor babies” that establish citizenship for parents, grandparents, etc., through chain immigration.
The Monterey Heald puts a typical spin on the story, keeping the middle class as dumbed down as possible and throw in some damn guilt too, typical of the self chosen elite, but hey, the productive folk are about cleaned out and the game is about over….

Posted by Lurker on Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:09 | #

I was listening to Radio 4 the other day when they wheeled out their *ahem* debunking.

I didnt need to research anything to see through it. The video may paint an alarmist demographic picture but its only the time scale thats wrong, the essentials remain the same.

The Beeboids also made a pathetic attempt to blur the facts themselves while I was listening. They pointed out Muslim birthrates being X but not to worry, UK birthrates had recently risen to Y, not far behind X. So you see nothing to worry abour folks. And why are UK birth rates up, well guess what, some of that is down to immigrants, many of whom are Muslims themselves. Anyone who bought into that crap and believed it…what can I say?

What the Beeboids really wanted to scream out of the radio was “Who cares, we are all the same, so what if Muslims have more kids!” Of course they didnt say it but it was hanging in the air. Its another reason why they are so sloppy on these stories, they dont have an ounce of energy to devote to understanding the issues, they just want all the bad stuff to go away.

Posted by jamesUK on Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:10 | #

I know you don’t cover geo-politics or recent history although you don’t seem to mind the creation of 2 Islamic states with organised crime connections and links to every terrorist attack in Europe in Europe but this could get interesting if the mass media which will never report on it or if it gets widespread internet media attention the trail of Karadzic

U.S. and Bin Laden were Arming Bosnian and Srebrenica Muslims Since 1992

“According to President Karadzic, in addition to Pakistanis, Malaysian and Turkish troops within UNPROFOR were also involved in smuggling weapons to Bosnian Muslim forces during the Bosnian war.

The weapons Malaysian and Turkish UNPROFOR contingents illegally transferred to Bosnian Muslims in the amount of 2.5 billion dollars were smuggled through Sudanese Bin Laden-linked charity front headquartered in Vienna, Karadzic said in his submission to the Hague Tribunal.”

“According to the report by the German federal police, based on documentation found in September 1995 during the search of Agency’s offices in Vienna, the Agency was used for smuggling machine guns, missiles and other weapons to Bosnian Muslim troops from 1992-1995, Karadzic noted.”

http://de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=7163

And that’s just the pre-trail hearing wait till the actual court case gets underway and what is revealed it would be pretty embarrassing that Barky’s staff appointees during the 90’s helped Bin Laden and Islamic militants in Europe to create there terror network and expose this war on terror hoax.

Posted by jamesUK on Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:20 | #

@Fred Scrooby

It’s geo-politics that effect the white race in the future in Europe and North America as what happens abroad effects the economy and migration patterns.

You seem to be limiting yourself to the effect not the cause.

FACT the London bombing and Madrid would not have happened without our support and creation of there network during the 90’s to present.

And who do you think brings in these illegal immigrants and drugs into Europe these organised crime gangs we created in the Balkans during the 90’s by western intelligence.

Posted by jamesUK on Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:29 | #

@Fred Scrooby

True it is there own government immigration policy but the illegal immigrants are trafficked in by organised crime gangs. In London and Italy the Albanian mafia dominate organised crime which was set up by western intelligence during the 90’s.

Posted by kurt9 on Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:52 | #

The statistics in the video do not jive with the CIA’s own estimates of fertility rates for various countries. Most of the muslim middle east has an average fertility rate around 2.5-3.0. The Islamic Big 3 (Turkey, Egypt, and Iran) are 2.3, 2.6, and 1.7 respectively. There is no way on Earth that the French muslim fertility rate can be 8.1. Even Niger, the sub-Saharan African country with the world’s highest fertility rate, is 7.7. The numbers used in this video are clearly dodgy.

I do have to admit, it is a rather slick production. The introduction is almost like that of “Blade Runner”.

I was in Germany for about of month in late 2000. I stayed in Hannau, which is about 50 kilometers east of Frankfurt. I was at Leybold to do final inspection check on 5 PVD tools we had bought for our start-up in Taiwan. I did notice that most of the young adults with kids were Turks and other Muslims. Most of the Germans I saw were 30’s and older. There weren’t many German kids. There’s not much nightlife in Frankfurt either, compared to cities of comparable size in East Asia and the U.S. So, the video does have a valid point. They just need to come up with more realistic statistics.

Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:36 | #

Don’t rely on home-country fertility rates.  There is reason to believe that populations will actually sacrifice homeland fertility to gain a foothold in new territory.

Posted by kurt9 on Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:57 | #

Yeah, I know what you’re saying. But a fertility rate of 8.1? Come on. That can’t be real.

Posted by kurt9 on Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:15 | #

Anyone who knows Muslims personally (like I do) is aware of how they overstate their numbers. When I lived in SoCal in the late 80’s, one of my best friends from college, who is a Shia Muslim from Lebanon, used to talk about how there were 300 million Muslims in what was then Soviet Central Asia. There were these Palestinian guys I knew at work and they used to quote the same statistic.  This was around ‘87 or so and we all knew the Soviet Union was on its way out anyways. So, these conversations were usually about what will happen when the Soviet Union was gone. Anyways, both the UN and CIA statistics have the combined population of the 5 “stans” around 80 million.

Now, I know the CIA gets it wrong a lot. I’ve seen internet copies of the internal CIA document dated December 26, 1991 detailing how they expected the Soviet Union to hang around for another few decades (I can’t believe these guys would get it so badly wrong like this). However, since the UN population statistics are similar to those of the CIA, I see no reason to believe they are that far off target.

Posted by Frank on Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:17 | #

kurt9 writes:

Yeah, I know what you’re saying. But a fertility rate of 8.1? Come on. That can’t be real.

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Hassidic Jewish community:

The village has the youngest median age (15.0) of any population center of over 5,000 residents in the United States.

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Because of the sheer size of the families (the average household here has six people, but it is not uncommon for couples to have 8 or 10 children), and because a vast majority of households subsist on only one salary, 62 percent of the local families live below poverty level and rely heavily on public assistance [government welfare], which is another sore point among those who live in neighboring communities.

The most recent census estimate put Kiryas Joel’s population at around 15,000 in 2002. But with a growth rate of at least 6 percent a year, it could some day become Orange County’s largest population center and a political powerhouse.

wiki article on the same community

Amish according to wikipedia:

A lack of detailed record keeping among the Old Order Amish, along with other possible factors, makes it difficult to estimate the total size of their population. Rough estimates by various studies have estimated their numbers at 123,000 in 1992, 166,000 in 2000, and 227,000 in 2008, for a growth rate of nearly 4% per year. In 2000, approximately 165,620 Old Order Amish resided in the United States, of which 73,609 were church members.[4] The Amish do not codify their natalism, but they are among the fastest-growing populations in the world, with an average of 6.8 children per family.

The slower rate of growth of the Amish must either be due to inaccurate numbers from one of these two communities or from a higher child bearing age for the Amish.

6% annual growth (Hasidic community) is 1.5X faster than 4% annual growth (Amish). That’s very significant.