David Duke, no friend of Poland: never argues against Hitler (e.g., lebensraum) On many occasions David Duke has claimed that Nazi Germany was offering genuine peace - “22 peace offers” - to the West and only wanted back some places taken from Germany by The Versailles Treaty. He says nothing about the truth of the matter, which was that Hitler had obvious tactical reasons to not want to fight on two fronts and have his agenda for lebensraum in the east interfered with. The peace offers were an obvious ruse to anybody. It is clear that Hitler was a war monger, had in mind lebensraum up to the Urals and intended to kill those Slavic peoples who fought against his plan to subject them as helots. There is no excuse for ignoring that and for David Duke to present himself and Nazi Germany as sympathetic to Poland. He completely ignores the fact that Poland had already fought and defeated the Soviets - who were on their way to Germany had they not been stopped by Piłsudski at Warsaw. He talks about Soviet atrocities as if it is an either/or between the Soviet killing and the Nazi killing. Typical of Nazophiles, he edits the time line of events as it suits him - focusing after the Nazis stabbed Poland in the back with the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact. Here is what Duke says on May 24, in a conversation with Professor Kevin MacDonald:
Sure, they were “liberators” of Poland. Where is Lana to add chorus?
Kevin MacDonald corrects him: “pogroms”, then adds..
[Note: WN typically do not manage to consider that maybe Hitler should not have invaded Eastward; after having already been granted the valuable Sudetenland and having been told that there would be war if he invaded further; while the Sudetenland was precious to Czech and perhaps contestable on historical grounds]. Unfortunately, KM endorses Duke’s totally one sided and highly selective account of history:
The next day, May 25, David Duke has a program titled, “Dr. Duke interviews the leader of TradCatKnight who destroys Christian Zionist Lies.” Duke, the “friend of Poland”, talks with a Polish Catholic guy, who uses all these bizarre interpretations of the Abrahamic religion, talking about how the true Christianity will emerge and the Jewish head of the NWO will emerge in Israel, etc. - some anti-Christ figure from The Book of Revelation, no doubt, causing us all to get into a highly rational war on behalf of the true Jews. David Duke is taking advantage of this Abrahamic fool, who has his eyes on scripture and his interpretations, not on this world, the world Jews care about; and this world, where they once led a Soviet Revolution that was even more murderous than Nazi Germany, but this world, where Nazi Germany mirrored Judaism, their unanimity for one people - Germanics - and not only a demonstrated willingness, but the protracted realization of killing that led to the killing of 55,000 million Europeans because Hitler could not cooperate with nationalists to the east, but started a war that might even out-do his idol, Friedrich the Great, in his eastward territorial conquests - and in which he aspired not only to rid his realm of Jews, but to take-over and subjugate the lands and the people of the lands eastward, up to the Urals; quite willing to destroy anyone who would oppose those objectives. Roman Dmowski, wise to the need to exclude Jews but his nationalism was too right-wing. Were there Jewish elements which had infiltrated Germany’s neighboring countries? Yes. Were there native nationalist elements in those countries which were aware that this alien and nefarious element needed to be purged - yes. Were they aware of the danger and willing to fight the Soviets? Also yes. It was incumbent upon a statesman to work with those elements. Lebensraum and a plan for subjugation of Slavic peoples does not accord with the principle of ethnonationalism; nor did Nazi Germany represent White nationalism - it represented Prussio-German imperialism. In terms of truth, trust and relations, it is not going to do any good proceeding with the denial of Nazi Germany’s imperfection. One of the difficulties with the philo-Nazism of WN is that they partake of one of its cottage industries - blaming Poland, itemizing Germany’s “superiority in every way” and cataloging Poland’s “perfidy”. You don’t build good relations that way, you start wars through reciprocally escalating diatribe - when you have to be on constant vigil against a people who believe in their infallible right to destroy you, that makes it extremely difficult to say, hey, you know, my side had this, that or the other thing wrong, could have done better here and here is/was the way to correct that: which I would like to do - but it’s hard when the other side is making itself into another side rather than a partner, by constantly dishonestly insisting that it was perfect, a victim and that your side was pure evil or perfidy without circumstance. Józef Piłsudski - wise and capable against the Soviets, but his nationalism was too civic, allowing for Jewish inclusion
If I were dealing with a more reasonable audience than Nazophilic WN, the place where I would go next in criticism of the Poland of the era would be this - of Piłsudski’s pragmatic brand of nationalism, which was (much) more propositional than it should have been. Although Piłsudski respected Germans and German nationalism - good; and although he despised the Soviet Union and fought them successfully - also very good; he did not yet appreciate the need to eject the YKW from Polish nationalism. He believed that it was a practical necessity to include them in order to have sufficient fighting strength. And so long as Hitler had imperialistic designs of lebensraum, that, the necessity to include the YKW, could have been true in some unfortunate, short term sense. Roman Dmowksi (the father of Polish nationalism) however, recognized the perfidy of enfranchising Jews into the Polish nation. While he was more anti-German than Józef Piłsudski, his disputes with Germany were not imperialistic, but local - regarding Poznan, Leszno, Pila, Bydgoszcz, Torun, Gdansk and a bit beyond Gdansk, into Pomerania. But not even this was anywhere near as far west as the Polish/German border is today. Even by Dmowski’s designs, Germany still included Breslau (Wroclaw), Stettin (Szczecin), Konigsberg (Kaliningrad); in fact everything not far west of the towns he sought to reclaim.
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Posted by 50 great escapists murdered on Hitler's orders on Thu, 26 May 2016 13:57 | #
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Posted by David Dupe on Fri, 27 May 2016 16:04 | # I don’t care what Kevin MacDonald thinks about this. Today, Duke is talking to Anglin and readily agreeing to Anglin’s retarded idea that we embrace the tag of “supremacist” and “Nazi” that the YKW try to affix to us. There is no good and necessary reason to do that. “It seems like we are groveling when we deny that” - what bullshit! Its barely been a few years that we’ve been able to put across the perfectly descriptive fact that we are not represented by supremacism and an even a shorter span in which we’ve been able get past WN Nazophiles to show our accurately descriptive difference from Nazism. The same David Duke who thinks that this is clever strategy, is the same Duke who argued vehemently against my suggestion that we embrace, own and assert the descriptive and highly functional fact of “racism” as “racists” - people who assert social classification and discrimination thereupon for the purpose of accountability and human ecology - not for supremacism. Duke is a theoretical retard. And because people like him and Anglin are theoretically retarded, he can be maneuvered by the YKW; they are usefulness as such, in their didactic part and that is part of why their prominent exposure is allowed for - they make us look bad while they promote stupid divisiveness among our healthy and determined elements. Post a comment:
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Posted by worst suspicions of Spencer & altright true? on Thu, 26 May 2016 11:02 | #
Speaking of right-wing perfidy, it seems the worst suspicions of Richard Spencer and the tentosphere could be true, as he, Richard Spencer, makes himself quite comfortable with Robert Stark and ...and another “huWhite” alt-righter, (((Alex von Goldstein))). The suspicion of the right, including the Alt Right, is that because it values “objectivity” over unionization, it provides ways in for the YKW.