Calling all subhumans

Posted by Guessedworker on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 23:42.

My thanks to a seriously untangled guy named Smith for this hard-to-find story from The (Glasgow) Herald:-

Trevor Phillips, chairman of the Commission of Equality and Human Rights, said there was a clear choice facing communities who are witnessing an influx of migrants.

Speaking at the STUC annual congress in Glasgow he said the choice was between welcoming people or fearing newcomers.

He urged people to turn their backs on racists in communities and at the ballot box and showed his contempt for the British National Party by saying they should be treated as “less than human”.

He said: “We will see communities standing up for asylum seekers who want to live as part of that community. We will see the Scottish government welcoming them as part of the fresh talent initiative.

“But we will also see the ugly face. We will see those who will assault a woman and baby simply because they are foreigners.

“We as a society have a choice. In England we have the BNP. The path is to keep them out.  We need to change in an inclusive way.”

I haven’t heard about any dramatic breakthrough yet in the search for those who will assault a woman and baby simply because they are foreigners.  But let that pass, because the big news is that Mr E has pulled off another of those smooth political hip wriggles for which he is so famous.  “Less than human” he says, is how BNP members should be treated.  A real headline grabber, one would think.  And surely that was what Trevor was hoping.

But, was he legal?  Can you imagine Nick Griffin and Mark Collett getting away with such a statement about Pakistanis?  If they were worth twice prosecuting for calling Islam “a wicked, vicious faith”, surely they would have been lynched for saying what Phillips just did.

Perhaps the most amazing aspect of Phillips’ statement is that, professionally, he is engaged precisely in raising up all those who might be perceived by society as “less than human”.  He more than anyone should believe - and believe passionately - that such a station cannot attach to any human being, even one’s personal and political enemy, as a matter of right.  Either one is a sincere proponent of universal rights or one is not.

Apparently, Trevor is not.  So why is he in the job he is?  Actually, that might be part of his problem.  How many normal people with normal, healthy principles does he meet at the Commission for Equality and Human Rights?  Or his old workplace, the Commission for Racial Equality?  Do the twenty-eight commissioners in these two bodies look like holders of unbiased opinion to you?  To my eye, only one resembles a person of wide and normal life-experience mercifully free of special- or minority-interest.  That’s Sir Colin Budd, a former diplomat now at the CRE.  But I don’t know the man, and I could be wrong there.

So in such company poor Trev, who was once described by a fellow scribbler from his journalism days as not the brightest member of staff, might be forgiven for thinking “a bridge too far”, and even opening his mouth about it in public.

But I hope not.

Any “less than human” BNP member reading this should seriously consider making a complaint to Strathclyde Police.  Hate speech law applies - equally - to everybody.



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Posted by Friedrich Braun on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:03 | #

I’m amazed that the English people haven’t told yet this brazen foreign interloper to pack his bags and leave their country. Sort of what Mr. Phillips’s fellow African and cannibal, Idi Amin, did with those pesky South Asians—I believe that he gave them only a few weeks to leave his nation (those anyone remember how many?). At any rate, it’s high time that Mr. Phillips be told, in no uncertain terms, to take his circus act somewhere else. He’s a parasite who demands that the native population accepts, and even welcomes, it’s own submergence, replacement, and death.

Why are the English so calmly enduring the lectures of this impudent immigrant?


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Posted by Friedrich Braun on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:04 | #

“does” and not “those”, of course.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:20 | #

“Why are the English so calmly enduring the lectures of this impudent immigrant?”  (—Friedrich)

Part of it is if they don’t they’ll have D.C. on their backs.  When you’re a European pol and you’ve internalized the understanding that if you step out of line D.C.‘ll do a Belgrade on you, it concentrates your mind — makes you do “the right thing.”  I think D.C. is fundamentally calling the shots in race-replacement around the Eurosphere.  After all, can anyone imagine more than one white country at a time coming up with that insane idea independently?  That’s quite simply unimaginable.



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Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:04 | #

Thanks for the link - again - Mr Smith.  I have put up a comment on your thread because so few of the offerings were relevant to your post.  I do believe Phillips has gone too far this time.  The Establishment would be put in a tremendous bind if the BNP cared to complain to Strathclyde Police.  Do they investigate it seriously?  Can they get away without investigating it seriously?  How can they possibly investigate it seriously and find no anti-English bias in dehumanising the holders of pro-English opinion?

It’s a win-win.  The timing is a gift, and Griffin really should force the issue.


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Posted by Steve Edwards on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:25 | #

I do like the quote at the bottom of the “Vote BNP” website. It’s from one of the greatest existing monologues:

“We few, we happy few, we band of brothers. For he today that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition. And gentlemen in England now abed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here.”


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Posted by Peter South on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:28 | #

So Trevor Phillips says that the BNP should be treated as ‘less than human’.
Good manners and sensitivity prevent me from making the immediate and obvious riposte.


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Posted by MrSmith on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:29 | #

Thanks for the comment, Guessedworker. As you can see, we have far too many moonbats on the ATW boards. Personally I’d prefer to see a stronger presence of honest, patriotic minds than have to ban the lunatics, I just hope that can come about.

If anyone’s interested, I’ve used the BNP’s ‘Contact Us’ webpage to notify the party of the events in question. I’d recommend other, like-minded readers of Majority Rights to do the same. With luck it’ll come to the attention of someone with sufficient influence to make a noise and embarrass that odious little man.

For some reason, I’m still more furious about Phillips’ urging of the churches to deny BNP members communion than about anything else. It it just me, I wonder, or do others feel similarly?

- MrSmith


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Posted by Friedrich Braun on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:18 | #

“You might also remember that he uses the same terminology as the late unlamented Nazis…”

Oh but MrSmith should lament the late Nazis…had Britain not foolishly declared war on Germany over the German city of Danzig, she would not only have her empire today but Africans such as Mr. Phillips wouldn’t be polluting England with their unwelcome presence…and lecturing the English about the necessity of their happy acquiescence in their own demise.


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Posted by stari_momak on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:05 | #

Mrs. Smiths tale that the police would not take her statement is deeply disturbing. It shows that at the street level, officers of the law have excluded those with incorrect opinions, specifically the BNP, from the law’s protection. This is one of the first stages of persecution, leaving an identifiable group at the mercy of the mobs. After all, during Kristalnach the German police simple stood down and let the mob do the rest.

In a sense this is worse than being brought up on ‘hate speech’ charges, as at least those can be fought in court.


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Posted by gangsta1gnxp on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:28 | #

So in such company poor Trev, who was once described by a fellow scribbler from his journalism days as not the brightest member of staff…

Black not bright shock. Trev has three highly valuable assets: his colour, his NuLab connections and his narcissist’s instinct for publicity. Here’s another dim diversitroid with assets #1 and #3:

Prayers for kidnapped reporter and victims of campus massacre

A PRAYER vigil has been started by the Archbishop of York for a BBC journalist kidnapped in Palestine and the victims of the American university massacre.

Another stage in his campaign for the top job.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:51 | #

Marcus Epstein, who I believe is half-Jewish, half-Korean (presumably on his father’s and mother’s sides respectively) seems unafraid to get close to the race issue.  This is good, as the racial nettle has to be grasped.  Where the individual grasping it in defense of whites isn’t white or completely white himself, it’s also one mark of a gentleman, of elevated character as opposed to base character of the sort seen in someone like Godless Capitalist.

I’m impressed with this young man, Marcus Epstein. 

As for Euros themselves, their élites are going to have to begin saying the main thing wrong with opening Eurosphere borders isn’t that it lets terrorists in, lowers workingmen’s wages, thwarts environmental stewardship, leads to bilingualism, or the other ills commonly cited — though it does do all of those.  No, people are going to have to come right out and say the main thing wrong with it is it changes the race, whether to another kind of white, which is bad enough (Irish to Polish, for example), or to non-white, which is too criminal for words.  If Ireland, for example, decided to deal with a severe labor shortage by gathering Americans, Australians, and Canadians of Irish descent in their millions back to the land of their fathers that would be perfectly fine:  it wouldn’t change the race — wouldn’t kill Ireland, the Irish nation.  If instead it gathered African Bantus to its shores in their millions, that would be unacceptable because it would kill the Irish nation by changing the race.

This is not rocket science. 

If Jews are in the forefront —and they are — of those trying hard to erase the various Euro nations by subjecting them to the demography weapon, resentful Euros who see what the Jews are doing can’t be faulted for cheering on the erasure of Israel through that same weapon or any weapon.  Jews pretend not to see anything motivating such Euro resentment and call those harboring it “anti-Semitic.”  This is because at present things are going the Jews’ way:  in war, and this applies to race war as to any war, when you’re in a position of strength you don’t negotiate, acknowledge, stoop, deign, or meet half-way.  You crush.  Like a bug.


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Posted by MrSmith on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:09 | #

” “You might also remember that he uses the same terminology as the late unlamented Nazis…”

Oh but MrSmith should lament the late Nazis…had Britain not foolishly declared war on Germany over the German city of Danzig, she would not only have her empire today but Africans such as Mr. Phillips wouldn’t be polluting England with their unwelcome presence.”

Ehm…. I didn’t use that sentence. Unless you’re referring to a different MrSmith, which I dare say there are several Mr Smiths. As to the demographic situation, I had heard tell the Commonwealth business had some links into the current situation, no? All common citizens of a Commonwealth, or something?

As to the Jews pulling the strings on the demographic problem and the native Euros retaliating, please to then explain why the most anti-semitic attacks in Europe are coming from immigrant moslems? That logic is looking a little ropey from here.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:36 | #

“As to the Jews pulling the strings on the demographic problem and the native Euros retaliating, please to then explain why the most anti-semitic attacks in Europe are coming from immigrant moslems? That logic is looking a little ropey from here.”  (—Mr. Smith)

Mr. Smith, the Moslem immigrants in Europe have their own reasons for attacking Jews and things Jewish, reasons which don’t motivate Euros whatsoever.  As for Euros who do not wish Israel well:  where this springs from resentment at what the diaspora Jews are doing (doing to the Eurosphere wherever and whenever they’re able:  aggressively promoting a demographic attack) it can’t be faulted.  That was my point.  (I’m not sure I fully understood yours — forgive me if I didn’t.)


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:45 | #

I support Israel, the Likud Party, and the ideas of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane.


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Posted by Friedrich Braun on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:58 | #

“I support Israel, the Likud Party, and the ideas of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane.”

Why?


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Posted by Dave on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 05:06 | #

A little off track here, but I remember when those muslims shot Kahane in NYC.  It had to be at least 15 years ago.  Anybody who muslims hated that much had to be doing something right (he was also compared to a nazi on more than a few occasions, go figure).  I have to say I admired him because he didn’t sugarcoat muslims or blacks and he articulated how those groups need to be dealt with.  That guy really had a pair.


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Posted by Friedrich Braun on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:15 | #

FS, there’s overwhelming evidence that Israel and Israeli Jews also work against the ethnic genetic interests of Whites in the West. You know that.

I find it odd that you, as someone who ostensibly identifies as Euro-White, have so much attachment to Israel and Jews in general:  “I’ll add that I like the Jews in general — very much so”.

Something isn’t right here.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:05 | #

“Something isn’t right here.”  (—FB)

Not to belabor this topic, but do I not criticize Jews where it’s deserved?  I’m not sure what else is wanted. 

It’s taken me a while to learn what others already knew on this topic (thanks to Großdeutsches Vaterland and Occidental Dissent).  I’m still learning, of course.  I shouldn’t be compared to people who’ve been avertis on these matters for ten years.

As for my “liking the Jews in general, very much so,” that’s never going to change because it’s a result of their qualities and their qualities aren’t about to change any time soon.  Though not Jewish, I grew up in what was very much a Jewish world in the New York City suburbs.  It’s just the way things turned out with my upbringing.  It’s obvious to me that lots of a certain sort of anti-Jewish venom that I see at web-sites is a result of lack of acquaintance with Jews.  That’s OK — the main thing is thwarting forced race-replacement, not getting every detail about the nature of Jews right.     

By the way, in my comment above, wherever I put “Germany” I should have put West “Germany,” the eastern part of Germany being under (illegal and immoral) occupation by Russia, Poland, and Lithuania at the moment.  The “Germany” on today’s maps is properly referred to as West “Germany” (with Germany in quotes because it’s no more its true self under its current puppet existence, and no more does what’s in its own interest, than the cricket is and does once the Gordian worm has gotten inside).


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Posted by Bo Sears on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:20 | #

Fred Scrooby says, ” The number of U.S. Euros with the highest-level IQs (140 and above) is several times the number of U.S. Jews at that level:  why aren’t they making themselves heard?”

With deep respect to Mr. Scrooby, I think the answer to his question lies in the nature of the historical culture of resistance to Others’ influences and the outmoded vocabulary that we use. If 140 IQ people would only realize that they need to flip the arguments to put Europeans and European Diasporans at the center of their discourse, everything that needs to be said can be said openly and persuasively.

It’s almost as simple as changing the nouns in all our sentences.

Somehow we are lumbered with a vocabulary and categories of discourse that are Other-centered so we end up talking about the Other, and not about ourselves. Our entire Resisting Defamation effort is based on Euro-centrism, our problems, our need for liberation from defamation, our situation, etc. It would seem that mere 120 IQ people could grasp that idea, but it is not so at present. Our smartest are obsessed with the Other in its various guises, and this obsession is very deep in almost all aspects of this matter.

We confess to dabbling in Other-orientation from time-to-time, but our on-line syllabus is pure Euro-centered. Flinching, wincing, contorted arguments based on benefits to Others, and so on are just not part of our categories of discourse. It’s really the only way to go to start to push back if we are seeking arguments that will persuade other Euros to get busy.

Linking theory with on-the-ground experiences in one’s community would also provide a lot of insight to persons interested in results, not just theory. But if we are to have debating societies, let the debates be about us, not the Other.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:17 | #

Bo, thanks for that comment.  I think you make excellent points there.

“It’s taken me a while to learn what others already knew on this topic (thanks to Großdeutsches Vaterland and Occidental Dissent).”  (—my comment, above)

And The Civic Platform, among some others.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:27 | #

Dutch politician Geert Wilders was summoned to the office of the Dutch Anti-Terrorist Service for a three-hour meeting at which officials of the Dutch Intelligence and Security Service were also present.  At the “meeting” it was “suggested” that he “would do better to express his political message in a milder manner.” 

(For any who haven’t heard of him, Geert Wilders’ political message amounts to questioning government-imposed genocide of the Dutch.  Question that, and you get summoned to the above sort of interrogation by government enforcers who make your options ... a little more clear to you, shall we say? ...)

The MP says he found the talk intimidating. [...] Wilders was spoken to for several hours at the National Coordinator’s office (NCTb) and shown newspaper clippings and footage of the unrest his recent criticism of Islam has caused in the Arab world. [...] Wilders said the NCTb’s goal was not only to inform him about his security situation. After the three hour meeting, an employee of the NCTb told Wilders that he would do better to express his political message in a milder manner. Wilders said he was given this recommendation during a presentation in the office of NCTb boss Tjibbe Joustra, at which officials from the intelligence and security service (AIVD) were also present. [...] Wilders said he left the meeting with an “unpleasant feeling.”

Nick Griffin went through worse.  And David Blunkett threatened Le Pen with arrest if, during his visit with BNP officials in England, Paki thugs in northern cities protested with violence (everyone got that?  Blunkett threatened Le Pen with arrest, not the demonstrators, if anti-BNP demonstrators became violent in the northern towns Le Pen was invited to visit ...).  It’s the same intimidation Prof. Tatu Vanhanen was subjected to, Prof. Rushton has endured, and so many others have had to put up with. 

It’s all a sign of how badly the governments of the Eurosphere want whites race-replaced with non-whites.  They want it so badly they are prepared to nakedly crush any and all hints of opposition to it.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 30 Apr 2007 04:42 | #

Must reading.  What we’re facing is partly what the Russian people faced in the 1920s:  the push by the left to eliminate nationality, a push in which the strongest nationality, the core nationality, is deliberately targeted first and foremost.


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Posted by Devdas on Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:05 | #

Herr Braun, no one is denying that the state of Israel was built on genocide (not for the first time) and terrorism. However if Israel was to be wiped off the map, pray tell me where will all those kikes end up? Europe including all Russia, North America, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina.  Not in our interest, is it? Indeed what we must desire is that all the kikes leave our lands and go to their own ‘holy land’ (the most unholy of lands if you ask me). The population in Israel has increased and many non Ashkenazi Jews have settled there as many Arab nations successfully purged off their parasitic culture destroying populations. So what will happen in effect is that parasites from Arabia will be transferred to White lands via Israel.
    I know what is happening to the Palestinians is wrong but we must put self interest and our survival above morality (for a change).


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Posted by Wiki on Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:22 | #

Posted by Devdas on June 28, 2009, 08:05 AM | #

“I know what is happening to the Palestinians is wrong but we must put self interest and our survival above morality (for a change)”

You dont know what is happening to palestinians is wrong because if you knew what was happening to the palestinians was wrong you would not have come to such an illogical conclusion as “we must put self interest and our survival above morality”. No other conclusion other than the one you made can be made by someone who knew what was hapening to the palestinians was wrong even if they wanted to because it is naturally impossible, defies logic and reason hence the correct conclusion with respect to you is that you dont know that what is happening to palestinians is wrong and your statment is a testimont to that fact. As for “we must put self interest and our survival above morality (for a change)” I had no idea that it had been otherwise grin


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:10 | #

Off topic (sorry for the digression but I think I’m justified in bringing this up): 

I just went back and re-read this log entry and comments thread including the comments posted by me, and it’s clear from statements in the thread by me and by other commenters that comments of mine have been deleted from the thread.

Comments of mine in several other old threads have also been deleted, as I’ve found here and there when going back to look for them.  I’m told by someone from the site that it’s a result of some glitch or other in the software, a glitch that may have this effect under certain circumstances.  I hope that’s it and not a particular individual associated with the site, who’s stated publicly he dislikes my comments on some subjects and distrusts me generally, who’s doing it.  (He’s already said he isn’t doing it.  I hope he’s being truthful.  If he isn’t, I’d appreciate at least a notification when he does it.  I don’t keep my own copies of my thread commentary.  I may want to copy it before he deletes it.)


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Posted by Devdas on Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:12 | #

Wiki said

’ As for “we must put self interest and our survival above morality (for a change)” I had no idea that it had been otherwise ‘

        Far from it, Euros have a disease for fighting and bleeding for some higher moral aim (spread democracy, reclaim the holy land, fight Apartheid, fight ‘Nazism’) rather than fight for racial interest/ survival (unlike the rest of the world.)


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Posted by Wiki on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:57 | #

Posted by Devdas on June 28, 2009, 08:12 PM | #

“Far from it, Euros have a disease for fighting and bleeding for some higher moral aim (spread democracy, reclaim the holy land, fight Apartheid, fight ‘Nazism’) rather than fight for racial interest/ survival (unlike the rest of the world.) “

The question though is not which wants to win but which can only win? morality or…... ? Goodluck in your fight for racial survival grin


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:11 | #

Wiki I if you plan on continuing to come here and snipe, I think it’s time the guessing game ended and you clearly stated your race, ethnicity, religion, nationality, and the country you are posting from.  Also confirm that you are a woman please (you’ve insinuated you are but not outright affirmed it).


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Posted by Wiki on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:43 | #

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 29, 2009, 12:11 AM | #

“Wiki I if you plan on continuing to come here and snipe, I think it’s time the guessing game ended and you clearly stated your race, ethnicity, religion, nationality, and the country you are posting from.  Also confirm that you are a woman please (you’ve insinuated you are but not outright affirmed it). “

Its about time you understood something very very clearly I have not and do not come here with the intention to snipe or make fun of europeans (well initially that was the case believe me,until I started reading LOL) and even if I did I am not under any obligation to justify my intentions to anyone. I cant help but be amused by alot of the things Ive read and read on here. I find the website and alot of the people on here amusing. Is it a crime? LOL. As for the guessing game its you who’s playing it but to satisfy your curiosity Yes Im female,I live in the UK, Im a Muslim, Im Pakistani ( I have family residing in pakistan but origionally my roots/ancestory goes back to Northern Kashmir (India) and from there I cant tell you where it goes LOL) Ok so you got the info dont slaughter/abuse me with it LOL grin


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:24 | #

Thank you.  Knowing your background helps others to understand and interpret your comments properly.


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Posted by Wiki on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:12 | #

Posted by Fred Scrooby on June 29, 2009, 01:24 AM | #

“Thank you.  Knowing your background helps others to understand and interpret your comments properly. “

Strange…whats the connection between argument, background and understanding the point? I hope you are not thinking anything I say that is anti/contrary majorityrights.com’s/Fred scroobys thinking can be attributed to the only possible reasons in your mind that it could be and that is my non-european background . If this is the case, its not a very smart way of arriving to understanding and interpretation. As understanding and interpretation has to be done with an clear objective mind independent/detached of subjective ideas implanted in the mind its the only way of conducting a true understanding of something. Your welcome.



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