Why people who argue against “THE Left” and “Post Modernity” are mentally retarded assholes.
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Shots fired in Munich shopping centre. Possibly several deaths and injuries.
Posted by Guessedworker on Friday, 22 July 2016 20:03.
Donald Trump announces that it is the present year.
Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:15.
This Is Islam, Son of Abraham. This is Abrahamic Jurisdiction
Posted by DanielS on Thursday, 21 July 2016 14:42.
Darkest Africa Comes to Central London: Africans Going Ape-Wild
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The 14 Steps of Abrahamics Anonymous, Abraham Anon & Adult Children of Abrahamism
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World’s first flying car may come from Slovakia
Posted by DanielS on Tuesday, 19 July 2016 18:10.
Axe attack on German train, 21 injured.
Posted by Guessedworker on Monday, 18 July 2016 21:17.
Polish & other EU companies deploying right-wing, anti-labor strategy of forced North-Korean labor
Posted by DanielS on Monday, 18 July 2016 08:22.
Intermarium cooperation taking form among The Visegrád Group (V4)
Posted by DanielS on Monday, 18 July 2016 07:49.
11 September Attacks: 28 Pages Declassified.
Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Sunday, 17 July 2016 06:07.
Coup attempt by parts of Turkish military against Erdogan
Posted by DanielS on Friday, 15 July 2016 20:50.
Bastille Day terror on the French Riviera
Posted by Guessedworker on Thursday, 14 July 2016 22:16.
Czech: 2,500-member citizen militia has formed in response to “massive influx of Muslim immigrants”
Posted by DanielS on Thursday, 14 July 2016 06:29.
Sanctuary for European Refugees Fleeing the Violence of Economic Migrants
Posted by DanielS on Wednesday, 13 July 2016 22:31.
Leadsom, May, UKIP, the EU, and racial loyalty.
Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Wednesday, 13 July 2016 20:32.
Pauline Hansen & One Nation voted into Australian Senate
Posted by DanielS on Wednesday, 13 July 2016 11:03.
An emetic for those who have introjected (((alterntive right))) style diversity
Posted by DanielS on Wednesday, 13 July 2016 09:24.
Roosh V - bagless vacuum cleaner model V with distinct sucking noise: rape-ity, rape-ity, roosh
Posted by DanielS on Wednesday, 13 July 2016 05:01.
George Soros and the European refugee crisis
Posted by DanielS on Tuesday, 12 July 2016 16:07.
Carlos Slim’s vested interest in Mexican immigration to US, backing its lobbying and protest groups
Posted by DanielS on Tuesday, 12 July 2016 10:04.
Obama: “The United States not as divided as some have suggested” lolllzzzzllllolllzzzzzz
Posted by DanielS on Monday, 11 July 2016 18:20.
Theresa May to become prime minister of the United Kingdom on Wednesday.
Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Monday, 11 July 2016 17:00.
Euro Cuck Final: a Disgraceful Epitome of The Cucked European Masculine Instinct for Nationalism
Posted by DanielS on Monday, 11 July 2016 10:48.
Ghana’s “Right of Abode”: Roadmap to Racial Peace?
Posted by DanielS on Monday, 11 July 2016 07:40.
Poland signs a space partnership agreement with China
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Officer Yanez: “Gun was visible and he disobeyed orders to ‘not move.”
Posted by DanielS on Sunday, 10 July 2016 07:14.
Dallas Suspect Micah Johnson Accused of Sexual Harassment in Army Reserve
Posted by DanielS on Sunday, 10 July 2016 06:32.
Black Violence, Lives, Looting, Rioting, Celebrating in Wake of Destruction to Whites Will Continue
Posted by DanielS on Sunday, 10 July 2016 05:01.
Bomb Robot Takes Down Dallas Gunman
Posted by DanielS on Saturday, 09 July 2016 10:16.
He Wanted to Kill White People
Posted by DanielS on Saturday, 09 July 2016 05:21.
ISIL offers $50,000 reward for head of Bulgaria’s ‘migrant hunter’
Posted by DanielS on Saturday, 09 July 2016 02:27.
Violence in Dallas: An argument for racial separatism.
Posted by Kumiko Oumae on Friday, 08 July 2016 07:59.
Majorityrights Central > Category: National Socialism
Two From Terrible Tommy Metzger: Advice For Skins & White Separatists
TT Metzger: White/European Unity and Separatism
When it comes to advocating for European peoples, wherever they are, against our elite traitors, hostile dead weight, those ideologies and ideologues which would cause serious fighting between us, you’d be hard pressed to find anyone with better experience and more genuine concern to bring to bear than TT Metzger. Having known him since 2009, I can attest to his concern to help coordinate our efforts so that we are, in fact, fighting on the same side, as we should-be. These two recent radio shows of his demonstrate that bonifide concern and experience that he has to share. I trust that he has these timely messages in mind for White / European advocates to understand at this juncture and that is why he’ll let slide my sharing them prior to them going-up to his archive - they also provide good samples of his work for those who might like to join his radio club. If he doesn’t forgive me, you know who to ask about where I’m buried!
Two from Terrible Tommy:
2) In an interview by authors writing a book about The White Separatist Movement, TT articulates his thoughts on racial civic-economic structures, what we’ve done right and wrong: Authors-InterviewTTMetzger
Andrew Auernhemer a.k.a. “Weev”
Weev has been a figure associated with WN for several years now and at MR since at least 2010.
I had given him something of the benefit of the doubt as being on our side, since he was on friendly terms with MR prior to my coming here. Weev was well liked by Søren Renner, who, among other gestures of affinity, posted this sad video at Majorityrights, showing Weev explaining his side of the story around the time of his prosecution, just before going to jail for the ATT hack.
Only a few remarks about Weev stand out from what Søren told me, otherwise I had only a general feel of Weev’s place with regard to WN, based on the impromptu “briefing” that Søren gave me about him and then from what limited attention I paid to Weev after Søren departed MR.
Weev emerged from jail and posted photos of himself proudly showing-off his swastika emblazoned chest. I was disgusted with him for that and for his cooperation with The Daily Stormer. I was also disgusted with Søren for his appreciation of Angln’s approach at The Daily Stormer and I wanted to flush out what mutual position the three might occupy. I posted this picture here at MR, Weev with giant swastika tattoo on chest - - it did serve to get Søren to respond: Søren struck me as both hypersensitive in his response on the one hand and impervious on the other, given the fact that I was not exactly exposing anything heretofore a secret. If they think that this is such a sound approach then it seems to me that it could be easily defended by such I.Q. powerhouses. In fact, Søren departed MR and ended contact with me, suggesting that I was taking it too seriously (while maybe he was the one who was being too sensitive).
But anyway, coming back to the few remarks that Søren had made about Weev. Søren said that “Weev is a Jew’ but he’s OK.”
I didn’t carry much weight at MR at that time and didn’t feel it my prerogative to throw any around. I’d say that I went into a sort of denial about it, but really, with Weev in particular going to jail, he wasn’t going to be much harm to us no matter what or how he was.
I liked Søren, quirky, cartoon character sort of guy that he is, and excuses for this remark were swimming only semi-consciously in the back of my head. Maybe he didn’t mean to say that Weev is a literal Jew, but this was Søren’s way of saying that Weev s “a bit of an a-hole, but OK” - an a-hole who is on our side, if not our a-hole.
Or maybe Weev is only a little bit Jewish of his genetic background, but is really on our side. Even at the time I tended to be very skeptical that people who were any part Jewish could be on our side; but again, he was going to jail and therefore of no immanent threat.
Maybe he isn’t Jewish at all and Søren is just showing off his I.Q. snobbery; or that he will make an exception for a Jew if he is a Wittgenstein or a Weev inasmuch as their “genius” is useful for our side. I don’t think these types of Jews will act reliably in our interest, but in this situation, Søren’s predilection seemed good natured, funny and fairly harmless. Even though Søren could have some susceptibility to favor I.Q. over racial distinction, the importance of the distinction from Jews was fairly well buffered - it wasn’t going to easily float past me, anyway. GW thought Weev is a Jew, though I’m not sure how he came to that opinion.
At any rate, Søren’s participation at Majorityrights decreased during the time of Weev’s incarceration. I was a bit sour on him for his appreciation of The Daily Stormer angle but he was more than welcome by me to post and otherwise participate. I had been and have been busily trying to build up an alternative platform from the standard right-wing, “Hitler and Jesus are us, Jews are White like us too, and should be included if they want.” I am serious about this platform not taking on that nonsense. So, when Søren suddenly reappeared with a few gratuitously disagreeable remarks and this silly post, I decided to make a post calling to account those popular WN figures - Duke, Anglin and Weev apparently looking to redeem Hitler.
As he hadn’t in years, Søren came on to Skype to chat with me, saying that I was too backward looking, that I was taking it too seriously and that I shouldn’t have brought Weev into it; then he removed me from his Skype contacts and that was the last I heard from him.
OK, before too long Weev re-emerges in the right-wing after coming out of jail, now with a Swastika on his chest and as a big hero of the The Daily Stormer et al., presumably. I didn’t pay much attention to him at The Daily Stormer since that tent of the alternative right-wing tentosphere is fairly circumscribed, buffered buffoonery. However, I started to catch wind of Weev making the rounds of the tentosphere.
With Weev at a safe distance now and making rounds on common subject matter, it was worth a listen to some of what he might have to say at this point. Since he is from Arkansas and has experienced blacks, it is quite reasonable to believe, in accordance with all indications, that Weev is sincere in his dislike of them - he has some sincere common interest with WN. Hell, if he is acting, he does a good job of it and of articulating grievances with Jews too.
But any man who causes the name of a website called “Gay Ni****s of America” to appear on the front page of the website of US presidential candidate (and US president to be) Barack Obama, cannot be all bad. lolllzzzzllllolllzzzzzz indeed.
As another one coming to Dana Anthiochus’ leaky border between White and non-White interests, Weev came to talk with Dana on 25 September 2015 about computer technology, his concerned advice on race and state-of-the-art warfare.
I insisted that Kumiko have a listen with me, and render a critique, as these concerns bear upon her expertise. We developed an outline which I will post below. A Weev article has been long on the back-burner, but has become relevant now with Dennis Fetcho’s experience and criticism, if not exposure of Weev.
Though a right-winger himself, Dennis Fetcho has some interesting things to say.
He did a podcast of his own and one with Nick Spero recently to discuss Weev. Fetcho finds Weev’s covering stories risible - Weev being a Christian identitarian concerned with White interests and so on. “Christian Identiy?’, Fetcho says, “before he was a Mormon, he doesn’t know what he is.” But of the fact that that Weev is Jewish and that he was always on “the enemy side” Fetcho is confident. Weev apparently made Fetcho’s life hell, attacking and damaging his websites as he apparently would do any site that was “anti-Semitic.”
Fetcho maintains further, that Weev was not prosecuted by the U.S. Government singularly for hacking A.T.T. as he maintains, but because he was a nuisance who had done the same thing to many people, hacking and trolling them relentlessly as a part of a team that caused many innocent people significant problems.
Now we have Weev’s triumphant return to White Nationalism, with him presenting himself as a cult hero if not integral to their right-wing sites and aspirations. He is treated like a “hero” at The Daily Stormer and other alternative right sites for his recent print station hacking stunt - at least he claims it as his handiwork; Fetcho doesn’t believe that he acted alone to cause the printers at some American universities and some in China to print-out a poster with an anti-Jewish statement, and declaring world wide “White supremacism” with two large swastikas on each side of the text. Fetcho makes the point that this is barely newsworthy. I concur and did not run the story at MR and would not have if not for the implications of Weev’s detrimental involvement with WN.
What good does it do to create a “problem” of printing out anti-Semitic posters with Swastikas, proclaiming global White supremacism into print stations at the heavily Jewish American universities and in China?
It is perfect public relations - for the ADL.
Universities are not known for their skin head types, nor are book worms likely to be roused to enact global Nazism. The universities are replete rather with empowered Jewish folks, who can proclaim that they have a growing problem with anti-Semitism, need to clamp-down and need more assistance from the State.
This kind of vainglory printing-out in China works against projects like MR’s, to build regional alliance between Asia and Europe.
My reaction from the onset would suffice without any elaborate conspiracy. Our eminently noble cause of White sovereignty is only harmed by association with Nazism and “supremacism.” It will only harm Whites, set us against each other and turn-off normal Whites, needless to say how non-Whites would react.
No White advocates were talking in terms of “White supremacism” until Weev brought it back in his talk with Dana Antiochus.
No concerned White advocates subscribe to White supremacism because it is at odds with the separatism to which we aspire - attempting to dominate others is at odds with separatism. In trying to resurrect this concept of “White supremacism” Weev is attempting to brand us with a term as surely as he has branded himself with a corny tattoo as if to brand and represent us with it. He would libel us by associating our cause with the term that Jewish groups have been trying to smear White advocates with for decades - despite the fact that nobody, except for Weev now, promotes the term.
It does no good to Whites, but it does however, serve the interests of the ADL. It divides Whites, turns off normal Whites to our cause, creates the notion that Jews need more state protection on their side, etc.
Coming back to Dana Antiochus’ 25 Sep 2015 talk: Weev pushed the envelope of violence, declared world wide “White supremacism” the way forward and the intimidating idea that drone warfare would make the normal means of fighting for your people obsolete.
My initial impression that this was just a right-winger giving the right-wingers at Renegade what they want - a new Swastika tattoo, some Jew, Jew, Jew, unanimity with Uncle Adolf and you’re good to go.
With Fetcho’s intervention, however, Auernheimer looks more like a provocateur than the friendly rogue, Weev.
Andrew Auernheimer, a.k.a., “Weev”, the suspicious friend of The Daily Stormer and TRS, just so happens to be their Johnny on the spot when their sites have problems.
Fetcho claims that Weev does have some Jewish background, which we (GW and I, DanielS) have reason to suspect as well.
Fetcho maintains that the US government didn’t go after Weev for the singular hacking of ATT accounts incident as he claimed, but rather because he was hacking and harassing innocent people all over the place, including Fetcho relentlessly.
Fetcho renders plausible arguments against Weev’s “great hack” of the printer stations at several universities, and apparently in China as well. He asks first, whether he really did this this by himself? Then takes the premise to what follows by saying that this is not a newsworthy story on its face value (I agree, and had not run it at MR). It accomplishes little of positive value, but does create a “problem” for the Jewish laden universities that requires them to provide a “solution” of clamping down on hate speech. This is an attendant benefit to our enemies by associating WN with Nazism and “supremacism.”
And that is the large point that I believe Fetcho has got very right - there is a close approximation of Zero White advocates who have been claiming “White supremacism” and yet what Auernheimer has been doing re-vitalizes the Jewish smear line of “White supremacism” along with the Nazi association in order to discredit WN and turn people off.
Moreover, what sincere White Nationalist would hack Chinese printers to announce “global White supremacism” ? Most probably none.
But a Jewish sponsored troll, trying to prevent Chinese and White cooperation just might.
Who is served by associating “White Nationalism” with The Daily Stormer, Nazism and “Supremacism” ? Jewish groups are served.
Here is the Nick Spero “Circus Maximus” show in which Weev is discussed in the third hour: The first two hours are Lee Rogers, the third hour Dennis Fetcho. Lee Rogers is your standard anti-Jewish right-winger, not much new but no harm if you can ignore his “holohoax” line and his falling on the AH side of the false either/or; moving to hour three, Dennis Fetcho has interesting things to say about Weev.
Again, Fetcho is a right-winger, with those foibles, including the pro-reich, “it was all a holohoax”, 9-11 and all that usual boring right-wing stuff, but the things he is saying about Weev gather sense.
He talks about Weev on his own show as well:
Weev tells his side of the story to RT
Weev on why he trolls
Weev on the difference between trolling and hacking
1. Showing ATT its vulnerabilities was a good turn; but revealing the data to (((Gawker))) was tactless.
2 Don’t talk to the police! Weev should not have talked to the police.
3. “Black hat” is the wrong term to self ascribe, it underscores an unduly negative angle that adversaries would attribute to Weev - he should not cop to that, but rather identify as a “Gray hat.”
4. Should not say German patriots are setting fire to refugee camps or that he wants to kill blacks just because they are black.
5. His idea of robotic and drone war is problematic - it does Not render traditional forces obsolete. In certain circumstances you want troops in there in certain circumstances you don’t.
For another significant point of criticism, there are more ways to counter robot and drone technology than Weev is taking into account.
Kumiko has other assessments and critiques of his politics and computer abilities: where he is mistaken, where he could do better.
6. Very important: you still need popular sentiment on your side. It is not enough, especially not nowadays, to think in terms of warfare being so asymmetrical that just one percent or a small percent can fight and win.
7. His view on Christianity, newly reconsidered as it may be, could be reasonable enough: reminiscent of Bohrmann.
8. He is correct that it should not be a false either/or between universalistic Christianity, Jews and Islam. They are all beyond the pale.
9. His association with Anglin and other right wingers is dubious. NS Germany was leftist at its inspiration, onset and groundswell.
10. Assad never offered nor had any intention of stepping down. Russia made a duplicitous offer to take Assad down in exchange for keeping its port but The US decided to try to take him down themselves. The results were still bad but the motives were different than Weev made it out to be.
Regarding Auernheimer’s assessment of the inexorable link between Isis, Israel, The US - the deal with Iran indicates that business interests and geopolitics can override Israeli interests
11. He overstates the exclusivity of White accomplishment in computer technology.
12. His troll of Obama’s website with “Gay n*****s of America” was very funny.
Besides capturing beautiful location shots, this documentary provides more insight and even some balance to the heretofore mainstream media portrayal of Craig Cobb’s gambit to start a White preserve in tiny Leith, North Dakota. The bit of balance is surprising given that the production is coming from a perspective which is highly unsympathetic to Cobb and the White separatist cause.
1) The documentary does allow for Cobb to sneak-in the fundamentally legitimate argument that Whites should be able to establish separatism in order to preserve themselves.
2) However, it takes advantage of a wrong turn that Cobb takes in separatist advocacy, and one that the demographic preponderance of American WN can be susceptible to, which is to associate White separatism with Nazism and its corollary of pursuing an antagonistic, literally supremacist, even “exterminationist” agenda. This willing association of WN with “NS” Germany stems from a false either/or regarding WWII, an either/or which maintains that there was simply a wrong and simply a right side in that conflict.
3) Stemming from a myopic reaction to Jewish sponsored liberalism in America and the frustration for unpopularity that will result of the “NS Germany simply right” response not being accepted (not even by many Whites who would be sympathetic to White separatism), the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center) has a rather easy task to demonstrate that Cobb is not just trying to build a separatist White community that can amenably coordinate with others.
a) He invited-into Leith some of the most salient and provocative White advocates, purchasing property in Leith for Alex Linder, the NSM (“neo-Nazis”) and Tom Metzger.
Linder of course couldn’t be more brazen in his rhetoric, calling for the elimination of Jews and so on; the NSM couldn’t be more flamboyant in their display, as they literally came into town bedecked in Nazi regalia, posting the like flags around Cobb’s house in Leith, and unabashedly proclaiming their unanimity with “NS” ideology.
Metzger doesn’t approve of such flamboyant and anachronistic tactics, but he has taken a position contrary to the PTB (powers that be) over the years, a position that the SPLC has tried to associate with senseless violence - despite his clear advice against that.
b) Along with the negative media reputation of these White exponents as embellished by the heretofore mainstream media and the SPLC, the SPLC begins to build a case to trace Cobb’s associations with these figures, as they have been following them over the years in an effort to connect them to a history of violence with further implications.
- as in the case the SPLC brought and won against then California resident Metzger, who was found “vicariously responsible” through a tenuous association with a skinhead who killed a black in a spontaneous street fight in Oregon.
- Matt Hale, fellow in Cobb’s religion -“Creativity” - was effectively set-up (by a wired-FBI informant who coaxed Hale to almost say that he approved of killing a judge) on charges of plotting to kill the judge who ruled against him in a patent case regarding the church logo and was sent to jail for 40 years. In connection with that bogus case, Cobb had published the address of the judge. Heidi Beirich (SPLC) admits that it is unknown whether that information aided and abetted the subsequent murder of two family members of that judge.
- VNN (Linder) associate and Cobb supporter, Frazier Glenn Miller, came unhinged one day and shot three people involved with the production of “To Kill a Mockingbird.” This was after the Leith Fiasco was over and Cobb was driven out of town not to return; but with that, the SPLC et al. were able to argue more persuasively that there was a danger when he was in town; and with some Leith property still in the hands of White advocates that the danger loomed of these types coming to Leith again and coming unhinged.
It is already well known to the world that Cobb’s case was not helped by his gun toting stroll with Kynan Dutton, a display compounded with verbal taunting of a neighbor. They were arrested for that and brought-up on charges of making terrorist threats.
Further threatening gestures alleged to Cobb that the documentary makes known to people who’d not been riveted to the event’s details, are that Cobb was apparently publishing the address, names and other information about family members of his neighbors - the Christian couple whom he antagonized in the gun stroll. While people of our sophistication might understand Christians are a part of a hostile world view, Cobb was not exercising necessary discretion with regard to their skill level - nor for their emotional latitude given that the man he was verbally antagonizing on line and in the end, in his gun toting walk, had a 17 year old daughter murdered in Washington prior to coming to Leith, North Dakota. But to make Cobb’s indelicacy hardest to ignore, this man read online where Cobb was encouraging ex-convicts to come to Leith and telling them that, “now is the time to draw your sword.”
Of course the context of Cobb’s words and actions must be taken into account - these things will be given hostile framing by the SPLC in advice to the movie makers and this couple along with the other liberal town folk. But still, anyone who would tout Cobb as having aced as a fine PR man for WN is sorely mistaken.
...and there were people whom he could have won over - the documentary shows one Leith townsman who does not seem hostile to Cobb, saying that “people can believe what they want, I guess.”
Additional new information, adding some balance and mitigating circumstance sympathetic to Cobb’s perspective is noted in the film. Prior to the stroll, Cobb and Dutton’s property had been vandalized; Dutton’s car tires were slashed and the car was spray-painted with the words, “go home.” Dutton’s partner is also seen being confronted by a neighbor who drives up to her, apparently to intimidate her. Hence, there was some provocation from the other end and reason to perceive the need to defend themselves against their neighbors prior to their ill-fated stroll. And there are other indications that Cobb and Dutton were up against threats.
These factors were in addition to all of the media hoopla and antagonism that had preceded, the “anti-racist” rallies and SPLC attention that was brought to bear against Cobb’s initiatives in the town.
Another irony came about when the SPLC summoned go-to victim group coalitions to harangue the White separatist - WN circles note that the American Indian groups who were among those brought-into Leith to protest Cobb’s effort to build a separate and sovereign territory based on his people’s genetic kind had been bused there from reservations which are their exclusionary racial preserves.
In addition to showing the counter-intimidation and vandalism by Cobb’s neighbors, there was another bit of balance provided in the film, significantly against the case that Cobb was “terrorizing” people to where they felt in immanent danger.
A photographer named Gregory Bruce came on a moral high-horse from another North Dakota town to intervene in Leith. He not only made a special effort to thwart and document the thwarting of Cobb’s plans, but he also boldly announced that neither he nor anybody else in town was afraid or threatened by Cobb. This bravado that Bruce horned-in with undermined the case for Cobb’s threateningness and opened the way for Cobb to be granted a plea bargain.
Another mitigating factor to the charge of “terrorist threats” and the idea that the people of Leith considered themselves to be in immanent danger was that Cobb was never threatening to the interracial couple in Leith (Bobby and Cheryl Harper) nor to Bobby by himself. The documentary tried to make hay out of the DNA test given by the talk show (The Trishia Goddard Show that Cobb appeared-on with the interracial couple), “showing” that Cobb was 14 % black, but Cobb dismissed it graciously despite being publicly hoisted by the petard of his objectivism (Cobb is not 14% black by any reasonable metric).
While Cobb was imprisoned for his gun toting walk and threats, had a felony put on his record, can no longer legally posses fire arms and underwent significant costs, he did manage to mitigate his sentence by admitting his mistake and was freed; finally, the documentary showed some balance again, by interviewing legal counsel advising the audience that justice was served - and in terms of the relative circumstances of the Leith fiasco, it was a fairly just result.
Justice to the eminently legitimate and noble cause of White separatism, however, was not served; but that is largely due to Cobb’s association with Nazism as it cut him off from broad support for what should be his absolutely legitimate goal of White sovereignty and survival; but with his “public relations” effort, he gave legitimacy instead to the worst antagonists to the cause of White survival and the separatism that is necessary to that end.
Dugin/Stark interview: Beginning concession to White Post Modernity
Whereas he used to have a completely botched notion of post modernity - mixing-up what should be the antidote to modernity and liberalism with liberalism itself - it now appears that we are improving Dugin’s understanding - viz., that modernity is the problem and the essence of liberalism.
His ideas in this talk are largely amenable and well considered.
His proposition that the state is a bit too much of an artifice to suffice by itself and that there needs to be a hypothesized realm, as we would say, beyond the physically verified moment, which girds and orients a people, is also well considered.
Anti-racism is the quintessential modernist liberal notion; it is a Cartesian farce: It has been proposed as innocent but it is not -
Anti-racism is prejudiced, it is not innocent, it is hurting and it is killing people.
These classifications are “hermeneutic”, that is to say that they are not absolutely empirically based in every moment, as the taken-for-granted and the state of partial knowledge - faith, if you will - must subsist behind the working hypothesis.
Call it a working hypothesis, call it faith, call it rules, call it narrative, call it taken for granted, call it the partly unknown, call it a mystery, a quest, an adventure, some of that as you must, some of it you might, as it has practical function to ensconce the under-determining facts of the empirical; but I have believed and continue to believe that a sacred overlay, in orientation and guidance of a people is a good idea.
I believe that it is a hermeneutic notion nevertheless, which is itself accountable to deal concretely with biology, sex and genetics, mediating toward fairness and justice in regards to this social capital - otherwise, without this empirical accountability, this “spiritual” realm will be the realm of evil charlatans.
European Indigenous Ethno-
Unfortunate though I believe his hypothesis is, Morgoth has his hypothesis there.
By contrast and to repeat, this Italian/Polish American doesn’t require ethno-nationalists to grant any guilt trips about Nazi Germany (whatever in particular he supposes that “I require to be granted”, I don’t know), but I do require fellow ethno-nationalists to be halfway intelligent and honest in drawing battle lines fit to the requirements of today and what we know now.
Morgoth’s former picture of the week which, according to him, I wasn’t supposed to look at critically:
MR has another hypothesis here.
I, we, are fighting with all we can to defend all native nationalists of all of Europe - western Europe absolutely as well. In fact, they are much better off without the justifiably negative stigma and inter-European strife that came along with that regime and its imagery; on the contrary, they can signal their clear cooperation on European ethno-nationalists grounds much better without it.
That’s the working hypothesis here.
Poland has a unique situation to argue in nationalist terms. Having been subject to both Soviet and Nazi invasions, it is difficult for our enemies - by that, I mean the enemies of we ethnonationalists - to accuse us, by means of them, of being communists or Nazis - the usual bogey men raised to denounce nationalists. They will try to call all ethno-nationalists “Nazis”, you say? Yes, they will try, but anyone who knows the lay of the land (say, in Poland and among Poles), knows that is ridiculous (and no, the next picture of the week that Morgoth put up, of a few bald Poles making Roman salutes behind a “blood and honor” flag is not a representative pattern).
With Poland having suffered among the most of those subject to Nazi invasion, nobody is going to call a true Pole “a Nazi” and have it stick in a credible way.
That typical argument among White Nationalists - “they are going to call you a Nazi anyway, therefore, may as well identify as one” - doesn’t hold up.
The accusation remains a problem for many, however, particularly for those of German and German American extraction. As I have said before, the guilt trip is right on top of them - and it is difficult to have perspective - one is either completely at the opposite extreme, such as Frau Merkel, or, as some tactlessly claim, one must “go directly through it” and cop to the identity completely and unabashedly.
It isn’t true: but for the guilt trips and the overwhelming abuse of liberalism, one may not have perspective to see any other options.
Whether for lack of perspective for overwhelming guilt trips looming upon them more directly as Germans or German Americans; or resulting from the position of those, such as Italians or Italian Americans, whose more marginal position is susceptible to disingenuous negative classification; or for a lack of empathic perspective for their ethnicity, such as the Irish, not having been particularly in the path of Nazi wrath; the overwhelming frustration pervasive liberalism’s destruction has visited upon them tends to manifest two logical fallacies:
1. Overstated premise: Hitler and Nazism necessarily represented “White people” (which, of course, they did not, but only in part).
2. False either/or: It is either Hitler and Nazism or Jewish, neo-liberal rule and its runaway.
Of course cooperative ethno-nationalism is the alternative and proper way out of these illusory paradoxes.
As stated above, Poles, e.g., are in a unique situation to share the relative “innocence” of their nationalist perspective with other nations and unburden them of the guilt trips laid upon them - a service in unburdening ethnonationalist Germany, in particular, of guilt trips.
World War II is history and there is no sense in laying guilt trips upon subsequent generations of Germans and penalizing them.
While the same would apply to virtually all nationals willing to coordinate in ethno-nationalist terms, of course, German nationalism’s recent history has been “mythologized” to the point where it is looked upon as pure evil, having had no rational reasons for its actions, operating ex-nihilo of sufficient cause - forcing would-be nationalists to lie prostrate before Jewish and liberal charges of “Nazism.”
It was not ex nihilo evil; but neither does defense of Nazi Germany hold up to ethno-nationalist criteria.
So, how do ethnonationalists go about correcting the hubris of liberalism which has run rough-shod over the systemic bounds that ethno-nationalism would otherwise provide for our human ecologies?
And how do we look upon Nazism’s imperialist over-correction, an exponential over-reach instigated by Jewish power and influence, neo-liberal powers and some overcompensations from its war-weary neighbors? We look upon it as a history that we can all understand by analogy to many examples in our own lives when we have over-reacted to provocation - now, at our best, we look upon it as history, to learn from. And when we see that our enraged response was directed in the wrong places or without correct measure, we try to do things differently the next time similar provocations arise.
Toward that measure of putting things in perspective and “demythologizing” Hitler, as it were, he is well likened to a Caesar type figure: in regard to whom people now should neither be guilty nor overwhelmingly proud. He did some things well, ok, that we can learn from, but particularly for his intra-European conflict, we should not extol him as a model: Caesar routed the Gauls - oh, good! (not). It would be ridiculous for me to expect people to shrug-that-off as a necessary cost; to say the Gauls “should just get-over it”; to say that all Europeans should affably resonate with and under Caesar’s image; and that the Germans of the Teutoburg Forest must get with the program or “just deal with” the fact that we do not have sense enough to draw new lines, with new signifiers and worldview indications, making it clear that we are European allies now..
Of course you aren’t going to make normal people and people who want to fight on proper lines, entirely copacetic with Hitler and Nazi Germany. But you don’t need to; in fact, it’s a great disservice to western nations’ ethno-nationalism, its share in the perspective on their innocence and trust thereof, a burdensome hindrance to participation in their eminent warrant of defense on ethno-nationalist grounds: because Nazism was not ethno-nationalism, not even national socialist, but imperialism in the end; and it certainly did not represent all White people and their nations.
Of course we must not fall into the trap of intra-European fighting again. But that is not enough - as we all know, we must regain our martial spirit and marshal it in the correct manner. Admire and learn from aspects of war and martial prowess of the past, yes, but the most crucial lesson to be learned, and the point, is to draw correct friend / enemy lines this time; to become ethno-nationalists in cooperation and/or coordination - not to become pacificists.
We must regain the will and warrant to kill those who would kill us, you say? Indeed, that is true. But it is a martial spirit that falls in line with ethno-nationalism and regional cooperation as well. Following a line that Bowery articulated: If people will not allow for our human ecology’s discretion to exclude them, then they are abrogating freedom from (and of) association and our freedom of voluntary contract; i.e., they are treating us tantamount to slaves and we might even kill them in self defense if they will not cease and desist from that imposition - this will apply even to those who will refuse our orders of deportation and our assessment that they are to lose citizenship and/or right to abode in our ethnonations.
I don’t frequent comment sections of other people’s sites often, but when I do, I always manage to outrage someone. This time I’ve managed to really cause something unexpectedly interesting to happen.
Today I managed to get myself banned from none other than the Daily Stormer’s comments section, apparently because I laughed at the Jews, I laughed at the Russians, I laughed at Andrew Anglin, and because I defended and upheld the actual existence of Operation Reinhard, and because I laughed while ‘stepping over’ the event. I guess my refusal to feel guilt or remorse for anything—and my incessant attempts to break down the liberal petty-moralist system—is something that he finds to be particularly disturbing. I’m task-oriented to the extreme, I don’t have time to care for and fluff the egos or feelings of warm-blooded mental slaves.
I am too cold for him and his friends!
In a fashion almost entirely reminiscent of the infamously duplicitous Hal Turner, he chooses to ban me for some incoherent reason, while he leaves the teeming hordes of Jewish and Russian trolls entirely free to roam and comment unmolested.
I present for your perusal the primary comment which Anglin has said merited my banning. I do this because this is a comment that is relevant to the ethno-nationalist struggle, and because it is part of my perspective on what kind of psychological disposition is necessary in order to win going forward:
You can see it for yourself. Clicking on the link takes you to the thread in context, and allows you to see my comment in context.
On a psychological level, people should not be feeling anguish.
Operation Reinhard was a thing which happened during the Second World War.
Breakfast was a thing that happened this morning. Lunch happened this afternoon. The sun went up, and the sun went down.
What of it?
Anyone who is feeling anguish, whether that anguish leads to a fervent belief in ‘Holocaustianity’ and the attendant feelings of guilt that it seemingly demands, or whether that anguish leads to a fervent ‘Holocaust denialism’ out of some attempt to escape from a hypothetical guilt, the common denominator is that the guilt is there and such a person is made weak by it.
As I said in my comment, you have to step over it. Whenever you are found to be espousing some form of ethno-nationalist politics, you will inevitably be confronted with the question of Operation Reinhard.
You’ll be talking about something to do with the preservation of your ethnic group’s dominance over its own civic space, and someone will pop the question on you, saying, “Exclusionary politics leads inevitably to horror. Isn’t this all a bit fascistic, to place the survival of your ethnic group as a central concern? What about the holocaust, what about the six million?”
What is the appropriate response? The appropriate response is, “I’ve stepped over it”.
Operation Reinhard? “I’ve stepped over it”. Einsatzgruppe D in Crimea? “I’ve stepped over it”. Nanking Incident? “I’ve stepped over it”. Bataan Death March? “I’ve stepped over it”. Marco Polo Bridge Incident? “I’ve stepped over it”. Parit Sulong Incident? “I’ve stepped over it”. Palawan Incident? “I’ve stepped over it”. Laha Incident? “I’ve stepped over it!”.
Whenever a person chooses a course of action in war, someone will be killed as a result along the way. Once the war has started, there is no going back, otherwise the lives expended previously would be rendered vain. This is called ‘the cement of blood’.
When someone begins to break up the cement of blood, and begins to feel anguish and remorse, it—as Jonathan Bowden would have put it—‘endwarfs’ them. It makes the person smaller. Once a person or a population group has become endwarfed, they no longer have that motive energy through which they can pursue their own destiny. Instead, they become psychologically subject to the will of others who, through the use of henpecking and guilt-mongering, can drive them into any kind of self-destroying policies that they want.
People who are ‘endwarfed’, show as one of their key traits a desire not for action and control, but rather, for innocence. Seeking innocence, they renounce their ability to act, instead they either begin to hope that others will act for them, others who are ‘taller’ and ‘have the moral high ground’. But a moral high ground does not really exist, because a moral high ground presupposes the existence of a universal morality, and universal morality does not exist. It is never possible to have ‘moral high ground’ when arguing with the enemy or with those who are endwarfed, whether they be overtly endwarfed, or latently endwarfed.
Because those people who are seeking innocence rather than action and strength are forever on the run from themselves internally, forever avoiding guilt by refusing to take actions, they are highly unstable and emotional, and are completely unreliable as a result. When these people become the arbiters of what you can and cannot say in a public space, in the office, in colleges and universities, or on internet forums, you can be sure that total chaos, instability and inconsistency will be the result.
As someone with no regrets and no concept of guilt, I’m happy to have wrecked the place during the brief two weeks that I was allowed to comment at Daily Stormer, and if given the opportunity I’d do it again, and I’d use Andrew Anglin’s salty tears as a substitute for soy sauce afterwards.
I’ve always seen Morgoth as a fellow traveler. There is ample proof of that in statements and gestures on my part. In fact, when he started a new blog, it was announced here at MR. I saw that it was a commendable effort in White nationalism. I did notice that some former MR people went there and that was fine with me. If people want to focus on different things and participate in a platform that has different rules then so be it. He has put-up and will continue to put-up some good articles. I also noticed that he gets quite a volume of comments. Fine. I didn’t spend much time there and commented there a grand total of once. Basically, I see MR’s platform as sound. Therefore, what other places (e.g. Morgoth’s) are doing is either going to reinforce our program or highlight our positive difference by contrast.
Long story short, I didn’t bother much with Morgoth’s and didn’t concern myself with it. I would take a look there but not as regularly as other places. In the few times that I did go there recently, I faintly noticed that there seemed to be more of the Naziphile sorts filing-in; there’d always been a few, but there does seem a bit more of the Andrew Anglin type crowd, “it’s all a holohoax” sorts; and I recall Morgoth defending Anglin to some extent in the recent squabble with Alternative Right. These angles are a bit unfortunate but it didn’t seem to be a main thrust; and again, I see MR distinguishing itself from that. I quickly visited recently to look at some of the headlines. I did notice the 4chan meme, “I wish we lost.”...but did not stay long, perhaps that meme piqued my disinterest - I’m not interested in arguments of that sentiment, it turns me off and I left, without comment and without particular concern; no intention of saying anything.
Kumiko called my attention to the fact that she’d entered a comment there (there, since MR and I are a bit more concerned with meta-politics than mainstream politics). So I was back there, wading through Hitler and Swastika avatars, fret about the persecution of holocaust deniers and I saw that obnoxious “pic of the week” sitting there again, with Morgoth’s email address placed proudly beneath.
It also almost seemed as if he was trying to recruit Kumiko, so to speak. He “hoped that she would become a regular feature.” I suppose that I cannot blame him for trying, she is one of the best in the ethno-nationalist business. But that was still a bit of a funky thing to do.
Having to endure these irritations while there, I made a comment about his pic of the week; a comment, that’s all; intended to go no further, but again, it was occasion for MR to distinguish itself for those who aren’t comfortable with such imagery, see it as unnecessary and divisive.
Morgoth had a meltdown, started saying that he could not believe that I would say anything and how unreasonable that I was.
The argument (in reverse chronology) that ensued is instructive if not entertaining:
Are you serious? I have absolutely nothing to apologize for. You should be the one to apologize if anyone. Saying (dishonestly) that I have had confrontations with a “long, long line of ‘nationalists” ...and that “you can’t remember who it was that I had confrontations with but it hardly matters.” ... it hardly matters? I have had confrontations with zero people for their “nationalism” - to the contrary; that, and depicting my reasons as emotional and erratic is dishonest - I have been consistent and with good reason.
With regard to Milennial Woes, he came to MR to denounce me for criticizing his Jewish friend Ruth (a.k.a., “The Truth Will Live”), demanding that we take his link to MR down because I was critical of his Jewish friend’s insistence not only that Jews should be able to be a part of the White struggle (the alt right in particular - and that is when I began to seriously see the need to distance myself and anybody who cares about Whites from the altright) i.e., when people were saying that she and other Jews should not only be included, but should be able to define our terms for us! Nevertheless, we took down his link without ceremony or rancor and sent him on his judeophilic way - he is [there now at Morgoth’s], I suppose…
“At your feet or at your throat” ?
Is it the case that:
Germans are an enormously logical people, who are capable of wonderful math, science, engineering and technology.
However, that top heavy focus on logic causes them to have weak planks in judgment, such that they will keep on following a logic to its runaway (and/or over-correction/overcompensation), even when it is clearly socially destructive?
We’re not even emphasizing the Nazi example now, we’re talking about how, in the salient example of Frau Merkel, they are treating Greece by comparison to the migration crisis.
Nevertheless, “a rule is a rule”: just as reaction to Jews implied the compensatory rule quite exactly, the Nazis mirrored the Jews in significant, literal ways. Hitler, e.g., maintained: “an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth” (never mind that one might engage the fact that Leviticus 24 is didactic, and showing people how Not to be, by comparison to the compassion of every other chapter of Leviticus)...
Now, Frau Merkel’s regime expects Europeans to appreciate the logical conclusion of her Jewish guilt reaction, a byproduct of Jew thinking, as it were:
To the Greeks -
First principle: unanimity: “pay us back our predatory, usurious loans”, no room for social praxis and concern for ancient European human ecology and social capital.
The universal principle: good will and the Christian golden rule: ”“The right to political asylum has no limits on the number of asylum seekers” - it’s an altruism and compassion, a logic of meaning and action that must continue to no end.
Though I am not well placed as a critic of German character, one does have to wonder..as I have observed before, in regard to those who say that Germans are/or should be our “leaders.”
Are a people so top-heavy on logic that they would follow it through to its logical conclusion despite what should be the obvious judgment regarding the logic’s vast social destruction to be entrusted with leadership?
It is, rather, apparent that sheer and top heavy logic is good for following rules and orders, not for leadership.
Leadership should be logical but top-heavy in judgment.
However, I am told that 30% of Germans still do Not believe that merely speaking German makes one German, so of course I do not want to exclude Germans across the board from a place at the table of leadership: just that they may not be well placed at the head of the table and certainly not as sole occupants of the table of leadership of Europe at this stage in history.
Not only is the hyperbolic liberalism of German leadership an expression of guilt riddenness, but it is a guilt riddenness for their prior (Nazi) regime’s lack of social judgment for optimal social unanimity and relations (of Europeans and others) - which has made stigmatization of sufficient racism all too easy for liberals - and worse now, a guilt ridden liberal self destruction which the rest of Europe is supposed to share in because of the Nazi lack of social judgment (which in particular cases worked deliberately against us - ! - * and generally speaking worked against us all in result) and because they are so fucking logical - as to carry an absurd lack of judgment and self destruction to its extreme!
* European countries which were targeted for elimination or demotion in sovereignty and influence are supposed to feel guilty and take part in the demise as well.
I am not well placed to critique German character as I will be criticized as being prejudiced against them, but I am for them, not against them - it is their liberals whom I dislike, as I dislike all liberals, imperialists and anti-nationalists; and I like and advocate the 30 percent of normal ones, the normal nationalists along with the ones who can be persuaded to come around.
But I feel obligated under the circumstances - am prompted by Kumiko, who is particularly angered: Not only is Germany’s leadership inviting terrorist cells, it is inviting bizarre and primitive third world practices - such as teaching boys that women are a man’s property; that it is fine to kill those who insult the pedophilic prophet…
Judgment catching up with logic but a bit late:
And of course, I hasten to add, that with this “logic” it is apparently fine to destroy the ancient EGI of Europe, our human ecologies and all that goes with it…
...and wouldn’t that logic come in handy to figure its way around and rationalize all sorts of liberal contradictions and sensible affronts to itself and its neighbors - to make good logical sense of their destruction and ours?
We do not share in their guilt, we do not want to burden them with guilt and we can share with them our free, unburdened ethnonationalist conscience.
Kumiko noted a very interesting additional aspect to this German propensity to be top heavy in logic, that they do not seem to manage ambiguity and contradiction as well as other populations.
Inasmuch as that is true, and it seems that it might be as a pattern (again, not across the board), it would be a problem for dealings in Praxis (the social world) as Aristotle noted, where a certain amount of ambiguity and uncertainty is necessary for its inherent interactive, agentive and reflexive nature - thus, Phronesis (literally, practical judgment) is required and the acceptance of a certain amount of ambiguity necessary to manage social ecologies.
That seems to go to the realm of epistemology and judgment.