Soren Renner Is Dead

Posted by James Bowery on Thursday, 21 March 2024 13:50.

Soren’s frequent use of irony if not sarcasm predisposed me to take something he said as less than serious.
He was serious.
Deadly serious.

Don’t jest on this topic. god is awake. time for a cut (prolog)
the right way to view the entire history of life is as a swarm of renormalizing dreams—our world is a dream. god’s dream. And when he is awake, fully awake, one will have won.

His reference to “prolog” is a pun, of sorts, on our mutual interest in programming languages—particularly logic—as mathematical metaphysics.  “cut” in the context of the Prolog logic programming language, terminates search for alternative paths to the goal, accepting the one at hand.

In all likelihood his death was a suicide.

He missed his wife, Judith.

Terribly.

Fatally.

Tags: Obituaries



Comments:


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Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 28 Mar 2024 16:55 | #

Thanks for posting this, James.  I am saddened, naturally, but perhaps not entirely surprised.  Soren was always a marginal individual, with great heaps of intellectual talent piled up on a too too slender existential frame.  He was always racing away at the edges, as if he struggled to keep up with himself.  He spoke fast and thought faster, and was possessed of a vast array of references and cites and allusions which pressed in on his mind, like a small child locked in a sweetshop with a thousand temptations to hand.  You just never knew in what direction he was going to take off.  At times, he had shockingly bad judgement (particularly in shirts as I recall), and I imagine his was a history of less than optimal choices that led in not always helpful directions.  I liked him without ever being able to pin him down long enough to agree terms, which was a sadness in itself because I did not feel that I ever really knew him.  He could be very frustrating, and was no doubt himself very frustrated.  But he was also a naïve, and exhibited warmth and loyalty, and for that he deserved the same in reply.  I hope he felt he had it while he was in touch with us, because he certainly deserved it.  I wish he had been able to find something solid enough to guide him through the loss of his beloved wife.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 28 Mar 2024 22:48 | #

“In all likelihood his death was a suicide.”

I hope and pray it wasn’t suicide. That would be truly sad.

But in my very limited remembrance of Soren, I recall him as a condescending prick. That, and his quote: “Billions will die, we will win.” I guess he wasn’t so smart after all.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 28 Mar 2024 23:15 | #

Dovetailing on Renner, I wonder whatever happened to Jimmy Marr: A past popular Majorityright’s commentor. The last I heard, he got his ass brutally kicked (in 2018) by anti-white leftists. They hospitalized his azz. Is he still alive?


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Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 28 Mar 2024 23:47 | #

This movement uses people up, Thorn, like any war.


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 29 Mar 2024 12:32 | #

GW,

To borrow Dan Bongino’s catchphrase: “DON’T GET DEAD

Or don’t be foolish enough to throw yourself under the wheels of the juggernaut.


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Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:12 | #

Living Toward Death
https://youtu.be/RnAFMbmwxQY/


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 29 Mar 2024 21:55 | #

@6

Well done, James.

Happy Easter.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 05:39 | #

Thought-provoking, James.  The final rise of the drone put me in mind of the sublime moment during Princess Diana’s funeral on 6th September 1997 when, at the spiritual climax of the performance of John Taverner’s Song for Athene, the BBC cameraman working outside Westminster Abbey contrived to shoot the cloud-studded sky.

Musical composition is, of course, a common way in which life’s orientation and ordering by Time and mortality has been represented.  Bach’s Goldberg was probably the earliest of such sound journeys.  Beethoven’s Op 109 Sonata No.30, particularly in the second movement with its five variations, is another of the very greatest.  But for me it is the single-movement 7th Symphony of Jean Sibelius which most wonderfully and faithfully captures this subject matter.  All of these are heavier on death than futurity, and thus are more limited than Heidegger’s reading of things.  But art is less than philosophy, something Soren would surely have understood very well.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 09:20 | #

  I recall Soren Renner’s ” Saturday Riddle ” confections .

Actually , I solved two , but the one I remember was about the decline in the owl population , viz. “He didn’t have da wit to woo “.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 09:27 | #

#1 GW , what a splendid eulogy . the ephemeral nature of Renner’s intellectual presence was wonderfully captured.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 11:40 | #

Ah yes, the Saturday Riddle.  He was a treasure, in his way; and only sometimes annoying with it.  But never in a very bad way.  One of the properly remarkable men I have met since this site came to life - and not at all difficult to write about, Al.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 12:34 | #

Here’s an example of some “warmth” exhibited by Mr. Renner:

Søren Renner: Billions Will Die!

https://youtu.be/Hhx0w1kYp30


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:09 | #

Would you have objected had Soren been less dramatic and said, “Billions may die but we will win”?


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:16 | #

The “Billions will die…” doesn’t bother me in the least bit - it amounts to just an expression. OTOH, his choosing an ecofascist as an exemplar, does give me pause. It reveals a lot about the essence of the man.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 13:51 | #

Soren was never a white nationalist.  I thought at the beginning that he had more of an anarchist’s interpretation of self and power.  But then he quoted Jacques Lacan.  He seemed at one time or another to have read everyone.  He spent several years on degree courses at, I think, Chicago University.  Whether he finished them I don’t know.  I doubt it.  He just had to explore more and more ideas, as if he was overturning everything in the attic looking for the one missing component.  He barely seemed to discriminate at all.  National Socialism?  No problem.  The Jewish Question?  Likewise.  Eco-fascism?  OK.  It all disappeared into the Renner pot.  All that intellectual activity had its uses, though.  One time, while we were talking on Skype, he came up with some allusion which went over my head.  “You don’t know anything,” he said to me.  Which is certainly true.  “Maybe, but I have very good eyesight,” I said in my own defence.  Perhaps that was the difference between us.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:22 | #

“One time, while we were talking on Skype, he came up with some allusion which went over my head.  “You don’t know anything,” he said to me.  Which is certainly true.  “Maybe, but I have very good eyesight,” I said in my own defence.”

BOOM!!!  ... HAHAHAHAHA!!

I bet that shocked the (bleep) out of him! No way could he have been expecting a glancing comeback like that. Brutal. LOL


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:16 | #

It’s the nationalist condition, Thorn.  Every one of us was eyeless in Gary IN.  And then we could see.


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Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 22:43 | #

The WaPO, NYT, Boston Herald, Atlantic and NPR have all picked up my new Syndicated cartoon “Soren & Friedrich” featuring the hapless Soren and his shit-talking dog Friedrich.

Soren and his shit-talking dog Friedrich


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 23:34 | #

@17

It’s the nationalist condition, Thorn.  Every one of us was eyeless in Gary IN.  And then we could see.

GW, I grew up in Detroit, Mi. I acquired a racial segregationist mindset at the age of 6 or 7 (that’s when I was educated to the fact racial integration was bad for Whites). Ergo, I am first and foremost a lifelong racial segregationist. Racial segregation is a prerequisite in order to maintain White preservation, i.e., racial segregation is a necessary condition for the survival of our people. The aim of White Nationalism becoming a reality is our goal - hopefully we will become successful inf our efforts. I have no use for peeps who’re not WNs.

 


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Posted by James Marr on Thu, 04 Apr 2024 13:41 | #

I’ve visited Majority Rights today to announce the completion of my reading of
“Being and Time” because that endeavor started here with the encouragement GW about 18 years ago.

I received a farewell email from Soren on St Partick’s Day. He thanked me for having been his house guest in Chicago over a decade ago. I strongly suspected he was going to kill himself and made no attempt to dissuade him. Instead, I simply acknowledged what I feel was the authentic value of our having been together.

I know that, among other things, a visit from Constantine Von Hoffmeister was also fondly remembered by Soren.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 04 Apr 2024 23:37 | #

Good to see Jimmy Marr is still alive and not in prison.

Are you not in prison, Jimmy?


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Posted by James Marr on Fri, 05 Apr 2024 13:22 | #

Soren suspected James Bowery was the inventor of Bitcoin, but also shared my view that the making of such a claim was unnecessary as long as the protocol effectively bypassed the parasite’s metabolic pathway without resorting to violence.


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Posted by James Marr on Fri, 05 Apr 2024 20:02 | #

Soren Renner is not dead, he died.


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 05 Apr 2024 22:58 | #

“Soren suspected James Bowery was the inventor of Bitcoin”

“Soren Renner is not dead, he died.”

ROTFL

Thanks for the comedy contribution, Jimmy.

It provided me much needed laughter.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 06 Apr 2024 11:54 | #

Jimmy, I hope you are well, and the good liberals and educationalists you terrorised all those years ago have managed to get over their conniptions.  Well, no, I don’t give a damn about them, actually.  Thanks for your input on Soren.  I am glad that he had fond memories of his life in the white political badlands.  I just wish he was still there.

I congratulate you on your Heideggerian adventures.  Now you will be able to put me straight on everything!


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Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 08 Apr 2024 04:50 | #

#17 .  GW , another , unheeded literary reference , so timely too .  Unsurprisingly our taste in books tends to coincide from time to time.

And , like, the Black Spot one , a favourite author is mentioned . I recently read on Kindle , the ” Chrome” one.

Gary , In , was built as a company town. because a Scotsman , Carnegie , consolidated the US Steel industry.

But you knew that anyway.


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Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 08 Apr 2024 05:01 | #

#23 Well said Jimmy.

  CS Lewis informed us that “humans are souls , the bodies are simply ancillary. “

Hope your bagpipes are still in tune.

Here’s my favourite piper :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKBtm_9DEyE


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Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 12 Apr 2024 13:15 | #

Some time ago, I sent Soren a bitcoin when he asked me for one to “play around with”.  He deleted the wallet.dat file rather than asking me how to solve a problem he was having with the bitcoin user interface.  Unrecoverable.  Fortunately this was very early on in the BTC network effect.  Minor loss.

I’m not sure whether it was Craig Cobb or Soren Renner or “Phinnaeus Gage” who started the rumor that none other than infamous Usenet kook, Jim Bowery, was the wily Satoshi Nakamoto.  While an amusingly “plausible” troll on one level for a variety of reasons, on another level I did have to take seriously the potential problems “rumor” would cause for me.  The IRS is nasty and I’ve been its target before.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628344.80

https://twitter.com/jabowery/status/1073103238780596224


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Posted by James Marr on Sat, 13 Apr 2024 15:33 | #

Thank you for asking about me, Thorn and others. I’m alive, out of jail, unable to pipe (Unjust Incarceration), and struggling to make sense of Soren’s ascension to Dasein’s ownmost possibility.

On this side of being, I have six grandchildren, each with a healthy stack of Satoshis.

I also have the great satisfaction of knowing I acted strongly on Soren’s exhortation to “Rise Against the Enemies of God”. I had a cardiac arrest during the Corvallis brawl and have no memory of it, but I’ve seen the mugshots of the assailants and have been told by someone with firsthand experience that the leader of the group of men who assaulted me on December 17th, 2018 ate his Christmas dinner through a straw. Billions will die, we will win!


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 13 Apr 2024 18:22 | #

“On this side of being, I have six grandchildren, each with a healthy stack of Satoshis.”

That’s great, James! Of course, being a grandfather is a real blessing. Looking after grandkids is the best job in the world.

Stay unbothered, happy, focused, and in your lane.

BILLIONS will die ... WE will win.”


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Posted by shoney on Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:14 | #

Soren’s daughter blogged about his passing: https://twitter.com/nausjcaa/status/1777359409326198938

https://newstonobody.substack.com/p/after-this-men-can-believe-in-anything

Over a year ago, my father invited me and my family to come to Maine for the solar eclipse. I said yes, thinking both that it was a magical idea and because at that point it seemed impossibly far away. Before April 8, 2024, I would have a new baby. It would be springtime, and therefore easier to be with children in Maine.

As the date approached, it began to bear down on me. I say “bear” because I am always having dreams about bears surrounding the Maine house, making it impossible to go outside. I always dreaded seeing my father. His mind, his presence, would shrivel mine. Everything tended to decompose around him, whether from lack of care or his intentional unraveling. Actually, better than “everything decomposed” would be “everything denatured” — like enzymes breaking apart, becoming impotent and fragmented. He was often on drugs. The house was covered with more than a millimeter of dust. Was he violent? The question was alive enough in the air that I could not bring my children to be with him. I was afraid my son would catch a disturbance. I was afraid that bringing my infant daughter on the two-and-a-half-hour-drive to the Canadian border to reach the “path of the totality” with my dad would result in disaster. What would happen? Nina would scream and my father, unable to stand it, would open the door of the moving car and roll out onto the side of the road. And I didn’t want to be with him, alone.

So on March 14 I called him and cried and told him I thought it was a magical idea to see the eclipse together — an idea, in fact, that conjured the firmament-loving nature of my dead mother — but that I couldn’t make it work, my kids were simply too little. And he told me not to be upset and that it was ok, and to come for a week in the summer instead. I was so relieved and surprised that he still had it in him to be fatherly with me.

I am not ready to write about what happened between then and March 17, at 2:16 p.m. when I got the last email from him, “don’t ask me where I went I don’t know either.” Actually I’m not ready to write about what happened after that, either. But I couldn’t let the day of the solar eclipse go by without marking it, and the thing that I’m best at is writing so here I am.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 17 Apr 2024 10:33 | #

Thank you for posting that, shoney.  A light into a Soren none of us knew.


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Posted by James Marr on Wed, 17 Apr 2024 14:35 | #

“don’t ask me where I went I don’t know either.”

Having received an email with an identical subject line, and having examined its timestamp carefully, I’ve hypothesized that it was an automated reply possibly sent to anyone having responded to Soren’s previous goodbye email. James Bowery may be able to confirm this?

If my hypothesis is correct the body of the email contains only a very small attachment: “kthxbai” followed by a small graphic representation of a framed [?]


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Posted by James Marr on Wed, 17 Apr 2024 14:44 | #

Something more and it’s so vague I can’t be 100% sure if its a feeling or a memory, probably the latter:

I think Soren’s father died when Soren was maybe about 8 years old. Soren was estranged from his mother and a large part of the estrangement seems to have arisen from her inability or unwillingness to discuss the circumstances surrounding his father’s death, which I suspect was suicide.


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Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 18 Apr 2024 16:22 | #

Sorry, the only communication I had from Soren regarding his imminent death was in response to this tweet of mine:

John Walker’s untimely death is a warning:

Install surveillance devices in your premises that only you know about and have a deadman’s switch that makes their recordings available to trusted individuals.

Soren’s now inaccessible response began with the words, “My timely death…” dated the very day of his death.  At least he in that last communique to me assured me that I had not contributed to it and for that I’m grateful.  Another small mercy is that for several years now I’d been considering inviting Soren to join me in taking an action (at an appropriate time) in accord with my youthful promise to myself to die trying to make my life worth living rather than commit suicide.  That “appropriate time” was approaching in the wake of the loss of my wife as well as Soren’s loss of his wife.  It was the day after I decided on another course of action, thereby rendering Soren less critical to my life’s mission, that I discovered Soren had meant what he said on March 17 and that option had already been closed to me.  Is there time reversed causality involving such decisions?  The implausibility of such and the delay in discovering Soren’s death combine to comfort me and perhaps point to the correctness of my decision.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:00 | #

Your last two sentences, James, reminded me of an idea that was mooching around my head a few years ago.  Probably everyone has at least one event in their life which troubles plausibility.  In my case the event was predictive rather than reflective, but the Law of the Present would be similarly broken in both cases so perhaps there is some functional causality in common here.

My case was also confined to the existence of someone important to me, and was peculiarly specific.  It took the form of regularly picturing myself getting my daughter and myself out of the path of a car that is coming straight at us.  These brief musings were events of waking consciousness in daytime, not dreams.  They are by no means normal for me.  I do not live in my imagination.  They were frequent, taking place regularly over the course of many months.  They were not place-specific, not future visions.  Rather, they were strategic calculations “in the event of”.  They involved only my daughter and myself out on a walk somewhere, which was something we regularly did together when she visited my wife and I.  I did not note anything about the thought process that would make it necessary to analyse it from a psychological perspective.  It seemed self-indulgent that I would entertain such thought, of course.  But it was not involuntary or accompanied by any emotional or physical reflex.  It was not a morbid story.  It had no beginning or end to its narrative, nothing beyond the critical event itself.  It might have a duration of one or two seconds, that was all.

At about 4.00 pm on March 2nd 2018, on the last day of the big freeze in the south of England called The Beast From the East, I suggested to my daughter that we go for a walk in the snow.  Actually, at this point in the weather-event it was compacted and shrinking ice on the roadways, with actual snow clinging on only to grassy areas.  She said “OK, Dad”, and out we went, duly suited and booted.  My wife and I live at the top of a long steep hill on the south-west of the High Weald.  There is only a very limited possibility for walks.  Basically down the hill and back up again.  On this day, when we were heading back and only 200 yards from home, she called my attention to some deer tracks in the snow on the other side of the neighbour’s five-bar gate.  As I turned back to the lane it was to see a small black or grey car slewing round the bend ahead.  It could not steer.  It mounted the still snowy verge where we were standing, and there was no doubt that we were in major trouble.  I remember turning half-round to my daughter and seeing her frozen to the spot.  She was on my right and the inside, against the gate.  She had no escape, and she knew it.  My past musings kicked in.  My right hand went around behind to her waist and my left to the other side and I threw her with everything I had in front of me and across the lane.  The car clobbered one of her trailing legs as it came through.  She landed pretty hard on the lane.  But she was alright.  I got wiped out, of course; and ended up on crutches for several weeks.

At the time my daughter kept rabbiting on about how fast I had moved.  Eventually I told me wife about those “musings”, but I have never mentioned them to our girl.  What I did do in the period immediately after the event when I was stuck in bed was to try to understand why I would be visiting and revisiting those peculiarly specific thoughts.  It was such a marked coincidence that, being only human, I looked for a rational explanation.  I thought about whether there was anything I might adapt from synchronicity, and revisited Jung.  I thought about Eternal Return and revisited Nietzsche and Ouspensky.  I thought about Mind and Time’s present moment as some process more thinly veiled to the essential in us.  I didn’t expect to rationalise anything interesting out of these things, and ended up playing ... only playing ... with the idea of the structure of Time advancing not as an experiential line but as a plane coming out of each linear moment and rising in a second dimension with nothing of the past really lost.  But the future?  I tried to attach a wave-like cosmic quality, as something also in Space.  I wondered if there was a mathematics of dependence, or intra-dependence, which might support a futural interpretation.

I let it go eventually, being forced to rue my limitations and the high probability that there was nothing in it and I was being fanciful and foolish.  Still, it bothered me.  Is it really that all is new.  Even breath … the lungs’ pulling in and pushing out of air ... is not repetition?  The heart muscles’ action of systole and diastole, tension and relaxation, is not repetition?  Nothing is merely repeated?  Nothing is “ever” repeated?  But then that would just be anthropocentrism, because the organic has the same combining and recombining fate in Time as the inorganic.  The structure is the structure, whatever it is.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 18 Apr 2024 20:49 | #

@35

Some sage advice from Uncle Monty:

Always Look on the Bright Side of Life Sing-Along


https://youtu.be/JrdEMERq8MA

 

 

 


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 18 Apr 2024 22:58 | #

Hey, Jim, the reason I use humor is because you seem to have alluded to your own Breivik mentality. Do you have a Breivik mentality?


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 19 Apr 2024 05:26 | #

GW , that was a fascinating post .

The late ( not as great as his sire ,  Sir Kingsley ) Martin Amis , wrote a book which I read years ago , titled ’ Time’s Arrow’ which touches this theme.


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 19 Apr 2024 05:55 | #

# 38 Here’s a Breivik mentality for you .

Your Jewish heretic hero enters a temple with a whip to chastise people he does not like .

Imagine , if old Jesus had an AK 47 instead of a whip .


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Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 19 Apr 2024 14:38 | #

GW, there is a mathematics of “regret” that has been picked up by the ML world which might be broken down into two kinds as in this presentation:

Too much Exploitation ⇒ Regret of missing unexplored “gems”

Too much Exploration ⇒ Regret of wasting time on “duds”

“Imagine” this:

How much regret would you have felt if your daughter had been killed because your imaginings of “what might have been” took the place of “what might be”?

How much regret do you feel for having “wasted” so much exploration of such an implausible prospective scenario?

The past shouts at the future.  The future whispers to the past.

So, yes, I may have something to “regret” in Soren’s suicide but that regret is but a whisper and may, as well be attributed to Soren simply giving up awaiting my decision…. and that was, in that event, his decision, not mine… a decision that whispered in another manner from the immediate past to my circumstances and subconscious at the moment I made my own decision.

It would be foolish, indeed, to totally discount these musings as they may point to meaning in those coincidences.  It would also be foolish to waste what is left of one’s life in regret.


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Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 19 Apr 2024 14:42 | #

Thorn, speaking of lives and being worthy of living them:

Can you imagine a life worth living in the present circumstances that does not harbor at least a nascent “Brevik” in them? 

I can’t.

On the other hand, I find it rather insulting that you would characterize me as engaging in such a morally impotent gesture.  If I’d taken the action I contemplated, not only would Soren not have been at legitimate legal risk, the moral force could plausibly be such that they’d wished I’d nuked NYC.


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 19 Apr 2024 15:33 | #

@42

James, amongst other things, Soren’s daughter, eloquently, with words, painted a picture of her father as deeply disturbed punctuated by tendencies towards violence. Moreover, we can deduce his suffering was endured over lengthy period of time. Probably a predisposed condition if Jimmy Marr’s suspicion @34 about Soren’s father’s demise is correct.

Then you posted this: “Another small mercy is that for several years now I’d been considering inviting Soren to join me in taking an action (at an appropriate time) in accord with my youthful promise to myself to die trying to make my life worth living rather than commit suicide.”

So, forgive me if my imagination steered me towards thoughts of associating you with Breivik.  But writing the words “taking action” without a specific explanation comes across as ominous.


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Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:16 | #

If “they’d wished I’d nuked NYC” doesn’t come across as ominous then perhaps Christ returning in judgement is less ominous than a “Brevik II”?  Is moral force so insignificant?

See this is what white leaders don’t get about whites themselves:  White heritable moral superiority is their real racial strength.


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 19 Apr 2024 20:43 | #

“If “they’d wished I’d nuked NYC” doesn’t come across as ominous ....”

HAHA!... Of course it comes across as ominous. BUT, it also can come across as grandiosity or that of delusions of grandeur thus not to be taken seriously. I say that bc I have to ask myself: what can two despondent computer experts possibly wreak on society that would be more catastrophic than NYC being nuked? Perhaps inventing then unleashing a computer virus that would take down the whole system? Utilities and all?

The thought of that makes me want to take a crash course in prepper skills! Not necessarily joking, either. 

What I don’t get, James, is what makes white-liberals tick. I never was able to fully understand them. They are so deliberately destructive to their own race; they know it yet derive pleasure from it concurrent with basking in a sick-twisted sense of moral superiority.


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Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 20 Apr 2024 18:19 | #

What I don’t get, James, is what makes white-liberals tick.

Imagine an actionable answer to that question. Do you doubt its potential for making them wish for NYC to be nuked instead, so they could have lots of little babies with 3rd degree burns to parade before the eyes of said white-liberals?

And as for a “computer virus”—think instead of a mind virus that can only attack minds in direct proportion to their genetic potential for superior morality.  As with any engineered vaccine, you must understand the binding site and the way it is being exploited by the pathogen.  Such mind viruses exist and, upon reflection, are an inevitable consequence of the moral capacity.

I suspect GW’s work on “The Ontology Project” is similarly motivated.  But, due to whatever is causing the lack of communication around here, there is little hope of fruitful engineering.  And make no mistake about it, we are talking about the much maligned “STEM mentality” being absolutely essential to such engineering since the purpose of such a mind virus is to reduce the human victim to a machine so it can be manipulated as a component part.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 20 Apr 2024 20:16 | #

James, I believe modern-liberalism itself is a mind-virus. It only seems to infect white people. Of course, over the last seven decades or so modern-liberalism—along with its congenital twin, anti-racism—has mutated into much more virulent form of mind virus. It’s now operating under the name of Wokism. At the core of “Wokism” is the tenet that demands “whiteness”  be eradicated and eliminated off the planet bc “whiteness” is the root cause of “systemic racism”. It’s all being done under the rubric of “social justice” (What an intellectual con-job they’ve managed to pull off!!!). Moreover, in that period of the last seven decades, all the major institutions in the West have been infiltrated, taken over, and are now run by advocates of the “Woke” philosophy. All of them. The long march through the institutions has come to pass. 

One major result of all that is White people—whether they are consciously aware of it or not—have been thoroughly conditioned to believe Franz Boas’ teachings about race. Figure out how to untie that gordian knot, James, and you will have achieved hero status!


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Posted by Anon on Sat, 20 Apr 2024 21:38 | #

Extended Phenotype


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Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:24 | #

Thorn you evaded the point of my question by providing an answer that is not actionable as evidenced by the fact that everyone runs around like chickens with their heads cut off screaming about “modern liberalism” while the Titanic continues to sink. Please don’t do that.


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Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:37 | #

#48 Anon: “Extended Phenotype”

Indeed… the best technical term I know of for “reduce the human victim to a machine so it can be manipulated as a component part.”


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:49 | #

James, I’m trying to help you redirect your screwy worldview towards the right direction. That’s all.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 05:25 | #

  #51 Thorn , I appreciate that you seldom interact , in real life , with highly intelligent people .

That does not provide an adequate excuse to cause laughter by attempting to patronise your obvious intellectual superior, JB.

Do not be offended , smart people enjoy humour.


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Posted by James Marr on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 09:21 | #

“modern-liberalism—along with its congenital twin, anti-racism”

Excuse me for returning briefly to the topic of Soren, but this comment reminded me of a tidbit of anecdotal information he confided to me:

He had a twin sister who married a black.


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 12:52 | #

@52

Yes, in certain respects James is “highly intelligent” ... no doubt about it. But in some areas, not so much.

OTOH, my attention towards you, Al, demonstrates I’m willing to interact with the dregs of society, too.


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Posted by Anon on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 13:31 | #

That does not provide an adequate excuse to cause laughter by attempting to patronise your obvious intellectual superior, JB.

^3


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Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:01 | #

#53 Wow!  That explains a lot about Soren’s symptoms.  I had no idea but it makes perfect sense.  Once he told me that he encountered a white mother with a mulatto baby in a stroller in Chicago mall and volunteered, “That baby looks nothing like you.”  The mother in near hysterics replied that the baby looked “exactly” like her.


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:20 | #

@56

That reminds me of a comment Morgoth made many years ago. He said (paraphrasing) when a white woman gives birth to a mulatto child, she in effect flushed 100,000 years of evolution down the toilet.

I couldn’t agree more.


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Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 17:38 | #

“Qui se ultro morti offerant facilius reperiuntur quam qui dolorem patienter ferant.”
“It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.”
Book VII, Ch. 77

But then Julius Caesar may not have been fully empathetic to the torments of the plebs inflicted by his own Senate which, after all, may be seen as the agent of his own “suicide by cop”.

(Just as may we not be fully empathetic to Soren’s torment.)


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 19:39 | #

Too bad Soren isn’t around to compliment Harry on what a “cute” baby he fathered.
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LOL


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Posted by Anon on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 20:07 | #

@59

Again tone deaf to the thread.

I enjoyed readying Soren’s posts long ago.


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 22:23 | #

Again tone deaf to the thread.

Wrong. I have plenty of empathy for people who’re in such dire mental pain they’re driven to take their own life. I especially have empathy for the loved ones they leave behind - in Soren’s case, his daughter in particular.


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Posted by James Marr on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 22:52 | #

#61 You know she’s shacked up with a jew labor organizer and has spawned out two mamzers, right?


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 23:01 | #

@62

I was completely unaware of that, Jimmy. Thanks for filling me in.


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Posted by James Marr on Sun, 21 Apr 2024 23:27 | #

#63 I didn’t know either until a couple of weeks ago when I read this.

https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-46/essays/leaving-ellsworth/


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Posted by weremight on Mon, 22 Apr 2024 06:42 | #

Jimmy, not only is he a Jewish socialist labor organizer but he’s a descendant of a Jewish socialist Holocaust survivor:

https://twitter.com/JonahFurman/status/1540402214686134273

She herself appears to be a far left Bernie Sanders socialist type.

I never knew Soren beyond his commenting here and at VNN and elsewhere online. But his temperament and personality type - the grad school intellectual type with a penchant for intellectual elitism and obscurity - is one you see more common among leftists than conservatives and right-wingers. It’s a type you know well in Portland and similar cities among the leftist hipsters and intellectuals.

I know he started out as an anarchist. which is a leftist scene, before becoming right wing so presumably he was a leftist when younger. It looks like his right turn didn’t have much influence on his daughter. Or perhaps she was genetically predisposed to becoming leftist.


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:34 | #

@64

Good grief! After reading about eight paragraphs, I couldn’t continue. I’m fairly certain I’ve had more than enough information regarding the Renner family.


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Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:44 | #

“Who gives this woman to be married to this man?”

The young woman would usually, but not necessarily, be shielded by her father.  The to-be-mother would usually but (almost) necessarily, be shielded by the man she chose to sire her children.  The transfer of shield would be done only by mutual consent between all parties since the young woman’s shield could, at his pleasure, challenge the would be sire and/or shield to meet him in a fair fight to the death.

That people around here think this interpretation of these vital traditions is symptomatic of a DSM IV category is itself symptomatic of how JudeoChristianity castrates its men so that Jewish men take the best of our women.

What do these JudeoChristians think the female hind-brain is going to do but capitulate to the “better” men who can spar with words rather than swords?

This is what causes “modern liberalism”.


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Posted by James Marr on Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:12 | #

#67 You’re clearly correct your assertion, James. Soren was clearly surrounded and outmatched by Jewish power. Even his livelihood, as far as I could tell, was dependent on Judith’s employment in the art business and we know who finances that. His daughter’s professional success as a writer/editor is similarly supported. Her three needless references to her marital jewishness in “Leaving Elsworth” are as contrived as a rat’s manipulation of a pellet dispenser in a Skinner Box. The “liberal mindset” is “will to power” fully adapted to the jews’ nepotistic money printer and its Cantillon effects.

While it’s facile to think “Bitcoin fixes this”, I’d love to see it jerk a good knot in its ass.


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:54 | #

This is what causes “modern liberalism”.

I’m pretty sure ‘modern liberalism’ is likely influenced by a broader range of factors than the one you’ve outlined, James. Ingroup v outgroup dynamics being but one of those.


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Posted by weremight on Tue, 23 Apr 2024 04:24 | #

#68 - Jimmy, before he retired to Maine, Soren lived in Chicago for a long time and had studied at UChicago, which is known as a hothouse of Jewish verbal intellectual intensity. Home to Milton Friedman and the Chicago School, Leo Strauss and the Straussians, etc. I imagine being in such an urban, hyper intellectual environment was a factor in his political development to the right over the years. While his daughter presumably grew up in such an environment and was immersed in it since early childhood.


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Posted by James Marr on Wed, 24 Apr 2024 14:20 | #

Striking a blow for Soren:

https://pieville.net/@Roscoe/112326379428274907


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 24 Apr 2024 22:36 | #

@71

In that particular case, a thorough bitch slapping would have been more appropriate rather than a weak-ass sucker punch.

BTW, who the F are those peeps? Please don’t tell me the recipient of the punch was Soren’s daughter.


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Posted by James Marr on Thu, 25 Apr 2024 11:53 | #

@72 “who the F are these peeps?”

In my imagination the rat-faced kike is Soren’s son-in-law whose discourse, in this case, was correctly interpreted as an act war. I’m encouraged by the strong possibility that the gene hijacker’s progeny are already infected with a lethal dose of Soren’s suicidal psychopathy.

Billions will die, we will win.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:19 | #

in this case, was correctly interpreted as an act war.

I concur, Jimmy. It’s absolutely an act of war. That androgynous mofo crossed the line when it poked its finger in the man’s chest.



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