Moscow’s Bataclan

Posted by Guessedworker on Friday, 22 March 2024 22:22.

Moscow_concert_terror.bmp
Moscow’s concert terror, as seen by one of those in the hall.

Just before the start of a performance by the popular band Piknik at the Crocus City Hall outside Moscow, as many as five armed men, said to be heavily bearded and in camouflage, entered the building and opened fire on the crowd. An expanding fire has led to the collapse of the building’s roof.  The Moscow Region Health Ministry published a list of 145 casualties of the attack.  At least forty are dead.  Nine of those hospitalized are reported to be in a critical condition.  An unknown number are still in the building.

Dmitry Medvedev has jumped in as usual, which is only to be expected:

“Terrorists understand only reciprocal terror. No trials or investigations will help if force is not answered with force, and deaths with total punishment of terrorists and repression of their families. That’s our worldly experience. If it can be established that these terrorists were from the Kyiv regime, it’s impossible to deal with them and those who have been inspired by their ideology any other way. They must all be located and ruthlessly destroyed as terrorists. Including official representatives of the state that committed such an atrocity.”

Office of the President of Ukraine immediately stated: “Let’s get it on the record. Ukraine had absolutely nothing to do with these events.”  Likewise the Russian Volunteer Corps, which is fighting for Ukraine in the Belgorod region, stated that “It definitely wasn’t us, of course.”

An Islamic State group has claimed responsibility.

Earlier this month, the US embassy in Moscow issued an alert warning of a potential terror attack.  The alert advised US citizens to avoid large gatherings, including concerts.  The Kremlin duly dismissed the warning as a “provocation” designed to destabilise Russian society.



Comments:


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 23 Mar 2024 10:01 | #

All too predictably, the FSB, who completely failed to protect the audience in the Crocus City Hall, are trying to suggest that the attack is somehow connected to Kiev.  Today they’ve said that the terrorists “intended to cross the Russian-Ukrainian border and had relevant contacts on the Ukrainian side.”


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 23 Mar 2024 12:51 | #

GW, how do you know it wasn’t Kiev that inspired the terrorist attack?

Just so you know, your opinion drips with anti-Russian bias.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 23 Mar 2024 13:12 | #

Death Toll in Attack at Russian Concert Hall Tops 110 as Suspects Detained

Russian officials on Saturday tried to shift attention away from Islamic State and toward Ukraine. The Federal Security Service said the attack had been carefully planned and that detained suspects had been on their way to cross into Ukraine, according to state media reports, which didn’t give more details.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/death-toll-in-attack-at-russian-concert-hall-tops-110-as-suspects-detained/ar-BB1koxyL?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=b6c18cd448cf40ebae43696e209d8da9&ei=5

Time will tell.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 23 Mar 2024 14:07 | #

Because, Thorn, it would constitute a massive own goal, destroying Ukraine’s position as Putin’s victim and thus its support in the West.  To be honest, I am surprised that something so basic was apparently not obvious to you.

I’m not anti-Russia.  I am an ethnic nationalist.  Ethnic nationalism is a universalist philosophy.  I am for the will of peoples’ to life, freedom, and autonomy on their own soil.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 23 Mar 2024 14:55 | #

Out of sheer desperation, I wouldn’t doubt Ukraine would ally with Islamic terrorists to strike at the heart of Russia. It’s well within the realm of possibilities.

Moreover, most people see through the Western elite’s misleading propaganda and correctly regard Russia’s invasion as being provoked by the West.

Since the start of the war, Ukraine’s population has declined by an estimated 30% and the decline continues apace. When the war is over, and if the USA prevails, the lost population will be replaced by non-whites. Blackrock et al will have a field day rebuilding the infrastructure using imported labor. That’s, in large part, what the Western elites will have accomplished.

The result will be another White European country will be transformed into a third world sh-thole. But what do the elites care? All they’re interested is imposing their multi-cult/multi-racial globalist vision on European countries. That and making trillions of dollars.


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Posted by Manc on Sat, 23 Mar 2024 15:56 | #

@4 GW, I am not at all surprised.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 23 Mar 2024 17:26 | #

LOL .... PDS - Putin Derangement Syndrome

“Several critics of Russian President Vladimir Putin have begun accusing the country’s government of carrying out the Moscow concert venue shooting as a “false flag” operation to justify escalation against Ukraine.”

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-critics-suggest-moscow-concert-shooting-was-false-flag-operation-1882714


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 23 Mar 2024 20:45 | #

Thorn,

“Most” people believe in the biblical heaven, and some still in the biblical hell.  But all of these believers believe in the model of the gentile at the Judaic End Time, aka Christianity.  Still.  After all the centuries of reason.  “Most” people likewise believe in the things of liberalism, and consider themselves to be “an individual”.  “Most people” believe nationalism is all basically Nazism.  “Most” people believe that racism is an actual thing, and plead to their accusers that they are not, of course, “racist” themselves.  But then “most” people are intellectually weak and highly suggestible, and don’t want to do right if it means challenging their comforts and preconceptions, and putting themselves in peril.  Rather, “most” people are more than willing to debase themselves for peace and respectability - and much more so for money, for position!  “Most” people believe what they are told - even by politicians.  Most people judge literally anything to be beyond dispute if it accords with their worldview (while never once asking where their worldview actually came from).  “Most” people, therefore, are greatly given to error, illusion and conformity at all costs, and can never extricate themselves from the sty of their discontents, or explain it.  This is the human condition.  It is a duty of thinking men to find what human liberation is, and to communicate it.

Most people are not nationalists.  That is the knub of it.  Nationalism in the form we are debating is liberation.  Ukrainians, for example, are standing in that light even now, as they suffer.  They do not do so by choice but of necessity.  It is a coincidental form of attention:

https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/out_of_foundation_and_into_the_mind_body_problem_part_four

So win or lose, when the suffering ends they will become slaves again, because nationalism has not yet been perfected and communicated - a work of a thousand non-existent hands.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 23 Mar 2024 20:51 | #

Zelensky this evening:

“What happened yesterday in Moscow is obviously something that Putin and other bastards are just trying to blame on someone else. They always have the same methods. This has happened before. There have been bombed houses, shootings and explosions. And they always blame others.

They came to Ukraine, they are burning down our cities – and still trying to blame Ukraine. They torture and rape our people – again, they blame them. They have brought hundreds of thousands of their own terrorists here, to Ukrainian soil, to fight against us, and they don’t care what happens inside their own country. Yesterday, all this happened, and this absolute nobody, Putin, instead of dealing with his Russian citizens, addressing them, was silent for a day – he was thinking about how to drag Ukraine into this. Everything is absolutely predictable.

The hundreds of thousands of Russians who are now being killed on Ukrainian soil would definitely be enough to stop any terrorists. And if Russians are ready to die in silence in ‘crocuses’ and not ask any questions of their special services, then Putin will try to turn more than one such situation to the benefit of his personal power.”


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 23 Mar 2024 21:20 | #

At this point, GW, all we can do is speculate about who was behind plotting the terrorist attack in Moscow. Both of us are basing our opinions on conjecture - that’s all we can do. But the more I gather from the news reports, the more I lean towards concluding it was an attack carried out by Islamic jihadists. After all, Russia has a lot of enemies in the Islamic world.  Occam’s razer and all….


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 23 Mar 2024 22:01 | #

“Most” people believe in the biblical heaven, and some still in the biblical hell.  But all of these believers believe in the model of the gentile at the Judaic End Time, aka Christianity.”

Big G,

I think most Christians believe the “Jew Book” has the best explanation of why our existence exists.

BTW, most people alive today are not of the Christian faith, not even close.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 24 Mar 2024 00:42 | #

It is perfectly clear what happened at that concert.  The terrorists have been captured and identified.  The organisation that sent them has taken responsibility:

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/29993

Only the blind Putin-boys of the West cannot figure it out.

On the faith thing, my usual working estimate is that somewhere between two-thirds and three quarters of northern Europeans possess expressed genes for faith.  But 100% of us have been raised one or other Christian culture.  The general outline of the faith is etched into our minds irrespective of whether we have any actual belief in Yahweh.


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 24 Mar 2024 12:25 | #

But 100% of us have been raised one or other Christian culture.  The general outline of the faith is etched into our minds irrespective of whether we have any actual belief in Yahweh.

That was truer pre 1960s cultural revolution. Since then, traditional Christianity has been under attack and steadily supplanted by leftist ideologies. Now, whether they realize it or not, Wokeism is the dominant religion/belief system amongst “most” White people. It’s Leftism/Wokeism that has been etched into “most” White people’s thought patterns - be they “conservative”, moderate, or “liberal”. That explains why “most” Whites look down upon people like you and I; they regard us as low-class social pariahs i.e. racist bigots. Of course, they’ve been indoctrinated/conditioned to think that way. The tenets of Wokeism demand it from them ... and like good little brainwashed woketards, they obediently obey the anti-White dictates. That’s where we are today.


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Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 25 Mar 2024 07:41 | #

#13 Ha , ha ! The connection between the ancient Jewish heresy of Christianity and the modern ((( Marxist ))) fashion in the West is hard to fathom for morons.

Once again , Christianity is simply Judeo / Communism stripped of the old Jew God’s promise that will keep you in Eternal Leisure and Pleasure for ever and ever Amen ( or Trans , if , I suspect , you may prefer ).


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Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 25 Mar 2024 07:46 | #

  The Reverse also applies to believers of Middle Eastern camel traders.


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Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 25 Mar 2024 07:51 | #

#12
      GW , “Genes for Faith” sounds scientific and academic. 

I have never heard of this stuff.  Is it Edward Dutton or Noah Carl ?


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 25 Mar 2024 11:39 | #

“Once again , Christianity is simply Judeo / Communism stripped of the old Jew God’s promise that will keep you in Eternal Leisure and Pleasure for ever and ever Amen ( or Trans , if , I suspect , you may prefer ).”

“simply”

Al, you are such a little simpleton.

Malicious conspiracy theorists rely on chumps like you to swallow - hook, line and sinker - their disinformation. You’ve proven over-and-over to be a big fish. LOL!!


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Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 26 Mar 2024 05:02 | #

  Thorn , what’s the name of that bearded Jew faker ( fakir , sorry Sunak ) , “Brother Dumbo” or some such whose every utterance you cling to like a Jew to a dollar ?  Nathaniel , isn’t it ?

  He is the Christian equivalent of Zakir Naik , a Muslim hero of uneducated plebs like you. 

  To borrow from GG , you ” Abrahamic Religion ” nitwits are two cheeks of the same ( malodorous ) Jewish Arse,


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 26 Mar 2024 11:00 | #

@18


Al, you are a freak of nature. LOL….
.
The list of names from Oddball Al’s notorious clown club:

Bearded Jew Faker
Sorry Sunak
Brother Dumbo
Zakir Naik
Oddball Al
.


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:07 | #

GW, when I said this @13

“That was truer pre 1960s cultural revolution. Since then, traditional Christianity has been under attack and steadily supplanted by leftist ideologies.”

This provides a concrete example of what I was getting at:

Why is the Church of England so horrified by ‘whiteness’?
Story by Michael Deacon • 7h ago • 4 min read

Perhaps the time has come to rename the Church of England. These days, it would make more sense to call it the Church of America. Because, of late, it seems to have become utterly fixated with parroting American ideas about racial politics.

First, we read that the CoE hopes to raise £1billion to atone for slavery. Baffled parishioners must have wondered what possible link there could be between their village church and the transatlantic slave trade. Is the organist an indentured servant? Does the verger run a sugar plantation?

But there was more to come. Next, we read that CoE parishes have been told to “embed racial justice” by drawing up “race action plans”. And now, we find a growing determination to tackle the supposed problem of “whiteness”.
Last month, a CoE diocese advertised for an “Anti-Racist Practice Officer”, whose job would be to “deconstruct whiteness”. And at the weekend just gone, the Archdeacon of Liverpool – who is herself white – announced that she was “anti-whiteness”.

Oddly enough, this boast was not greeted with universal admiration. Indeed, quite a lot of people seemed to find it offensive. So she hastily sought to clarify her position. “‘Whiteness’ does not refer to skin colour per se,” she explained, “but to a way of viewing the world where being white is seen as ‘normal’ and everything else is considered different or lesser.”

Unfortunately, I’m not sure that this explanation helps. After all, there is already a word for “viewing the world” in this way, and it’s “racism”. So why, to avoid causing confusion and offence, didn’t she just say she was against that?

Of course, “whiteness” is a newer, trendier term. So maybe she thought that saying “whiteness” would make her sound more cutting-edge. More dazzlingly au courant. More American.

Alternatively, perhaps she was just trying to impress the young. For many years, CoE vicars have been desperate to find ways of doing this. Frankly, though, I preferred it when they grew beards and played the guitar. It was actually less embarrassing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-is-the-church-of-england-so-horrified-by-whiteness/ar-BB1kxlpU?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=8af808dc16be4d79970de120daf5ee4a&ei=12


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Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 28 Mar 2024 05:37 | #

Again , Thorn , you cut and paste everything and understand nothing.

Christianity is a racially alien import . And is , as an aside , perhaps the best example of why ( Roman ) Colonialism will turn out to be an ethnic catastrophe.



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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 28 Mar 2024 10:26 | #

@21

Al, your comment was noted then promptly tossed in the trash can where it belongs.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 28 Mar 2024 12:50 | #

I have never heard of this stuff.  Is it Edward Dutton or Noah Carl ?

It’s my own observation, Al.  But there is no shortage of science, accessibly presented here:

Twin studies conducted around the world in the U.S., the Netherlands and Australia as well as ours in the U.K. show a 40 to 50 percent genetic component to belief in God.

One of the issues that these guys don’t seem to have sorted out yet is why the component in childhood is nurture-heavy.  But my argument is that faith is a complex of the high emotions, key elements of which are not especially functional in childhood.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:36 | #

@23

All people adhere to faith in some sort or another, be it in a religion, in gods or God, or in some other strongly held belief or theory. You, GW, can be described as falling into the latter category. Ergo you, by definition, are a man of faith. It’s kind of amusing that you cannot recognize or accept that trait within yourself.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 28 Mar 2024 16:38 | #

This is where faith-endowed people, knowing nothing of those who see without that filter, go completely wrong.  Even the most simple organism in which a brain is present can “see through a glass, darkly”.  This is the prior estate, the ancient estate.  Faith was generated afterwards because it presented a fitness gain, and for no other reason.  Not everyone possesses the genes for it or, should he or she possess them, has them in an expressed form.

I am not denying faith its rightful place.  But it is not a meaningful thing in a non-trivial fraction of our race, and you do need to accept that fact regardless of its effect on the monotheist claim.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 28 Mar 2024 22:02 | #

@25

GW, I understand your views on faith and respect them. Of course, I don’t see it the same way, but I respect you and your beliefs, nevertheless.

Back to the subject of your post. This is a Judge Nap interview of Scott Ritter. In it he contends the official U.S. government assertion that ISIS-K was solely responsible for the attack is a “cover story”. (BTW, you told me you don’t have much respect for “youtubers” but this, I think, is pretty credible.)

Have a listen:

Scott Ritter: Analyzing the Moscow Concert Attack

https://youtu.be/QmOqBoBL66c


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:43 | #

  GW , in the unlikely event of your being converted to ” Faith ” by the comment section’s leading defender of the nonsense , here’s a reminder of what we know about ” Faith “.

  https://www.revilo-oliver.com/news/2012/06/afterthoughts-on-afterlife/


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:56 | #

GW , I sent the above link to Christian apologist , Prof. John Lennox , at his (postgrad only) Oxford college ( Green Templeton ) .  Prof. Lennox is retired but his status as Fellow Emeritus allows the retention of an ox.ac email address.

The email was received , after which, a block.

In fairness , I did not borrow my wife’s “oxbridge” email for my trolling effort.


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 03 Apr 2024 11:36 | #

Nun Says a Trump Victory Will Be an Act of God

Good vs Evil

https://rumble.com/v4n23ec-nun-says-a-trump-victory-will-be-an-act-of-god.html


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 03 Apr 2024 17:52 | #

Well looky here! Seems like one of the world’s foremost atheists sees the indispensable value Christianity has had on Western civ. Moreover, he expresses his understanding that the death of Christianity is the proximate cause for the death of the West. For the record, Thorn has been asserting that since the 1970s.

A couple of articles:

Christianity’s decline has unleashed terrible new gods
Richard Dawkins was a star of the New Atheism. His admission that he’s now a cultural Christian is telling

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/03/christianity-decline-unleashed-terrible-new-gods/

&

Richard Dawkins has some regrets
By
Kaylee McGhee White

Excerpt:

Of course, the decline of Christianity in the West is a serious problem with implications for us all. What Dawkins has realized, perhaps too late, is that the “Christian ethos,” as he described it, is the very foundation of the laws and institutions upon which Western society depends. Equal justice under the law, the importance of the family unit, the need for community, and the importance of self-control and personal responsibility in a self-governing society all find their basis in biblical teachings. The very concept of human rights is rooted in the belief that all human beings have divine value that no person can take from them.

Strip society of these values by encouraging people to reject their source, and it turns out that what we’re left with is a soulless, depressed, and increasingly unjust culture. Get rid of God, and everyone starts to think of themselves as their own gods.

Dawkins apparently recognizes the problem with this, which is why he now argues that Christianity in particular is necessary, if only to regulate the public’s behavior — while, of course, continuing to argue that religion itself is bad. One has to wonder whether such an inconsistency requires greater mental gymnastics than simply believing in God.
In an interview this weekend, Dawkins admitted he is concerned about the decline of Christianity in the Western world and even described himself as a “cultural Christian.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/faith-freedom-self-reliance/2947860/richard-dawkins-has-some-regrets/

 

 


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Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 03 Apr 2024 22:34 | #

There is no Christian ethos.  Faith is not ethical in that prescriptive sense.  Ethics derive from the organism’s constant struggle to make a predominance of adaptive choices over maladaptive choices.


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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 03 Apr 2024 23:12 | #

Read this:

https://www.thinkinghousewife.com/2024/04/the-pillars-of-intellectual-insanity/


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Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 04 Apr 2024 00:16 | #

I have “absolutely” no need of faith thinking, Thorn.  All the claims of the faith-filled are as nothing to me.  You must know this by now.  You may not wish to agree that western thought has resolved the problem of faith and the service it performs in a large fraction of our race, but such it is.  Even I, a complete amateur, have mapped what “is” before faith ever took hold in Man and before Man himself.  It’s not a mystery, except to those blinded by their need to find an omnipotent proxy for these very things.


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Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 04 Apr 2024 03:11 | #

Three Nuns’ success at converting rational people to Jew nonsense :

Nun Yesterday   . Nun Today .  Nun Tomorrow.


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Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 04 Apr 2024 03:28 | #

#32
    Were you sheepishly tupped by a Black during the thinkinghousewife tupperware party ?

  Apologies , GW , for lowering the tone .


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Posted by Al Ross on Thu, 04 Apr 2024 05:03 | #


# 24 , all people do this stuff and that makes it intellectually valid ?

  Go away.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 04 Apr 2024 11:09 | #

@33

Yes, GW, I’m very well aware of your “no need for faith thinking” and I’m not trying to down you for it. Moreover, I don’t think I am blinded by the need to find an “omnipotent proxy” - quite the contrary.  I arrived at my belief in God using reason and logic. And as I understand it, you’re using to “SCIENTISM” (Pillar #3 of the chart I posted) as—at least in part—your guide to arrive at where you currently are.

BTW, my post @29 was a test post. Earlier I tried several times to post a video on the subject of mass migration into the USA but for some reason your spam filter rejected the post.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 04 Apr 2024 11:11 | #

This is the video I tried to post:

“THIS IS ONLY PHASE 2 OF BIDEN’S BORDER INVASION PLAN, WAIT UNTIL PHASE 4 BEGINS”

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Hn7Ju9IO8dPn/


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 04 Apr 2024 11:16 | #

This is the video I tried to post:

“THIS IS ONLY PHASE 2 OF BIDEN’S BORDER INVASION PLAN, WAIT UNTIL PHASE 4 BEGINS”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-29lbhhZU5A


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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 05 Apr 2024 22:27 | #

Big G,

Col. Lawrence Wilkerson speaks on the CIA’s involvement in the orchestration of the terrorist attack at Crocus City Hall and how the U.S. instigated proxy war against Russia in Ukraine is proceeding.

Skip to 16:20 of the vid. and take a listen.

https://youtu.be/FKlFASqQqtU


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 06 Apr 2024 11:56 | #

I’m sorry, Thorn, but America is full of self-haters of left and right; the latter also, of course, “rugged individuals”, or would-be rugged individuals; and I cannot take any of them seriously.


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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 06 Apr 2024 13:01 | #

GW,

America is full of the most brainwashed people on the planet!

Of course, the long march through the institutions came to fruition decades ago. The anti-White “anti-racist” neo-commies (for lack of a better term) are in full control hence pro-White activists are now living under tyranny - that’s obvious.  One of many manifestations of the “neo-commie” takeover is laid-out in the video I posted @ 38. White Americans are too disoriented by their brainwashed state of mind to understand the nature of the genocidal attack they face.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 06 Apr 2024 23:38 | #

The genocidal attack is not salved in any way by hoping for a Russian empire in Europe and Chinese global hegemony thereafter.  Western frying pan, Asiatic fire.


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 07 Apr 2024 10:43 | #

“The genocidal attack is not salved in any way by hoping for a Russian empire in Europe”

Umm .... I’m pretty sure Russia’s aim is not to build an empire in Europe. Carefully observing the chain of events that occured over the last thirty years brought me to the understanding that USA deliberately and knowingly imposed an existential security threat on Russia ... which predicably provoked the invasion of Ukraine.

“and Chinese global hegemony thereafter.”

If the Chinese achieve global hegemony, it will be mainly due to traitorous western politicians and corporate leaders selling out to China in exchange for short term power and profit. That’s not “mechanistic hatred” of western leaders on my part. My opinion of them is derived at by the assessing the evidence of their behavior and actions starting in 1972. 

Before the start of the war in Ukraine my main concern was - and still is - that the USA intentionally instigated a war between two White countries. Such a war only serves to reduce the world’s White population at an ever-increasing pace, no? And as a side bonus, our “sage” deciders of foreign policy irretrievably drove Russia into the arms of China. GOOD JOB!! ...... NOT!!!!!


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 07 Apr 2024 15:27 | #

Umm .... I’m pretty sure Russia’s aim is not to build an empire in Europe. Carefully observing the chain of events that occured over the last thirty years brought me to the understanding that USA deliberately and knowingly imposed an existential security threat on Russia ... which predicably provoked the invasion of Ukraine.

There is no excuse for naivety.  You are not naïve about so many things, but about this ... you are lost to received and childish expectations.  Everyone outside Trumpian America is profoundly aware that the Russian invasion is not an ordinary territorial dispute.  It is a geopolitically-driven power-play against the entire architecture of European security and the post-WW2 rules-based order.  It seeks an order of force majeure, whereby the robber barons of the Siloviki and the CCP can maximise their predation.

On Chinese hegemony, the western elites do actively seek this, but strictly within their own geo-economic terms.  They are willing to relinquish American hegemony in the act of relinquishing all hegemony.  It is only a logical and necessary step towards their empire of Money, which requires stability of an order not achievable if the lust for “petty” national/ethnic supremacy prevails.  For such prevalence can never be stable.

On “provocation”, do you not understand that Muscovy has NO moral right to dominate other peoples.  The moral cause is that of the people of the land.  Always.

It is time, Thorn, for you to free yourself from the conflictually liberal dross of the un-self-aware American right, and to find your way to moral thinking.


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 07 Apr 2024 17:15 | #

“In provocation, do you not understand that Muscovy has NO moral right to dominate other peoples.  The moral cause is that of the people of the land.  Always.”

I’m in agreement with you on that particular point, GW.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 07 Apr 2024 17:49 | #

Well, then, you are an ethnic nationalist after all!  Now it only remains for you to elevate ethnic nationalism above the usual caterwauling of the dissenting American right.  In particular we should be clear that the destining of Europe’s peoples is away from empire in all its forms, including the empire of Money which the western elites seek and the empire of force which Moscow and, by implication, Beijing (ie, Xi and the CCP are implicated) seek in response.

I guess that at the root of my objection to all the noisy American pontificators is that they possess a critique of Washington’s exercise of power but no critique of how that power emerges, or from what.  They do not have a critique of the American individualist.  They do not see that it is an egalitarian model.  They do not suspect that they are themselves the seed of it.  They do not have a single thought about sweeping that away.  They are entirely unaware, and in this estate they mouth off against the inevitable consequence of their own artifice.

One needs to understand that this complaint has nothing to do with this person or that.  It has to do with what has happened to the European racial type in The Great Experiment.


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Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 08 Apr 2024 05:48 | #

Western frying pan means Black Sub Saharan / Brown Islamist fryers v   Non - Western similar or mildly sympathetic ethnic groups ( Russians , obviously ) and Chinese ( reluctantly admiring of Western Culture ) .

Which of the two given agglomerations would help make Balcombe a better place ?


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 09 Apr 2024 09:27 | #

Al, what do you think a CCP global hegemony would mean for Europe?  Would the CCP, guided by Tian Xia and a racially supremacist Middle Kingdom revanchism, welcome the reinvigoration of racial Europe?  Or do you think they would lock down our dissent in the manner that they lock down ethnic dissent within their own borders?  Under which control system, western or Asiatic, would we have the greater possibility of rebellion?


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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 09 Apr 2024 10:46 | #

GW,

Your concerns about CCP hegemony in Europe are legitimate and well founded. However, let’s not take our eye off the elephant in the room; that being the Islamic takeover of Europe. Given the demographic projections over the next 100 years, one can surmise Europe most likely will fall under the control of Africans, South-Asians and Middle-Easterners. East Asians are dying out as fast or faster than people of native European descent. Pew Research projects China will lose from one-third to two-thirds of its population by the year 2100. OTOH, by the year 2100, sub-Saharan Africa’s pop. is projected to increase four to fivefold. Most of those Bantus will be trying, with all their might, to escape the dark continent. Of course, Europe will be their first choice to resettle in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/12/05/key-facts-about-chinas-declining-population/


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 11 Apr 2024 11:48 | #

Zelenski is delusional and the U.S. elites have proven themselves depraved for sacrificing two generations of Ukrainians in order to achieve their deviously provoked proxy war against Russia.
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https://youtu.be/pxH0Tke0lNQ

Keep in mind what the Western elites have in store for native Europeans:

“Let’s not forget what the origin of the problem is. There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That’s a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states.”—Westley Clark

Obviously, that’s not just Westley talking - he reflects the mindset of the entire ruling-class.


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 11 Apr 2024 12:28 | #

Scott Ritter is well worth listening to..

https://youtu.be/oBIllJ-oKc0


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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:05 | #

The handiwork of Western elites:
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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:13 | #


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:09 | #

#54

My political hero , so thanks for the pic.  When I was a student , I wrote him a letter . It reached 33 South Eaton Place , SWi . 

I received a reply which . non - patronisingly , gave a nod to my poorly expressed view on not joining the Common Market.

Imagine , if you can , Trinity College , Cambridge’s High Table pre war . The Master , Bertrand Russell , presides over a discussion between Wittgenstein , AE Housman and Enoch Powell .


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:12 | #

Of course , the above discussion would not be conducted at High Table .  The Fellows adjourn for post prandial coffee and cognac and that is where the fun begins.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:28 | #

#49 ,

  Balcombe with Blacks / Muslims v Russians and Chinese .

At least the latter group would leave the Half Moon Inn open .


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 13 Apr 2024 07:06 | #

Sorry , GW , for using a number instead of my usual friendly term of reference .

I have a special affection for Balcombe , my London lawyer daughter married her PhD holding husband in that village.

Didn’t help much , they are both Lefties.



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