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Spencer: My conception of the ethnostate is imperialist - true ethno nationalism is a zero sum game.

Posted by DanielS on Wednesday, 10 January 2018 03:01.

My conception of the ethnostate is imperialist - true ethno nationalism is a zero sum game.

“My conception of the ethnostate is imperialist actually.” “True ethno nationalism is a zero sum game.” - Richard Spencer

Fortunately Britain seems to be joining the revised TPP11 and the Visigrad Groups are holding their own as a geopolitical connection on the upper Silk Road, to provide an ethnonational bulwark against any Spencer/Duginesque imperial blob larp that would sprawl oblivious to profound heritage, Lisbon to Vladivastok, Vladivastok to Nova Scotia.

Richard Spencer: I’d agree that my conception of the ethnostate, writ large conception, is imperialist actually, in the sense that it is a larger bloc, it is a geopolitical bloc.

50:00 I don’t think ethnicity itself should be a dividing line. An intense ethno nationalism like ‘Finland for the Fins and the Czech republic for the Czechs, or whatever that is’, I don’t think that’s actually the way forward.

52:00: In terms of White I don’t think this is at all controversial - you know one once you see one.

55:20 The whole idea of the ethnostate is about avoiding conflict. It’s about creating - this is where my concept of the ethnostate might be slightly different than others. Some others might consider, say, Poland is an ethnostate. It’s a linguistic- religious ethnic community (only difference?) - my concept of the ethno state is a concept of the ethnostate writ large; it is a geopolitical bloc for the White race. The whole point of this is that there would be a continental wide safe space, for White people, and there’s not going to be conflict, there’s not going to be racial conflict or racial suspicion.

Israel is in a very tricky situation, due to its creation, due to its foreign policy, due to its mentality, but…

His colleague, Evan McClaren, “Executive Director of NPI,” puts forth a similar straw man, saying that “the Polish and Hungarian cavalry will not come to the rescue of White people.” This is an insulting reference to WWII era Nazi propaganda footage that fictitiously staged Polish cavalry going up against Nazi Panzer tanks; and again, nobody is saying that Poland and Hungary, let alone their “cavalry”, is going to come to the rescue alone. This is another straw man to disparage ethnonational sovereignty against Spencer’s misguided delusion of Russo/German imperialism.
The fact is that global conflict is never going to go away ...that’s one aspect of the ethno state, it must have nuclear weapons, it must have an army, it must be able to confront whether it be China, whether it be the Middle East, etc.  ...it can confront other blocs around the world, so that we aren’t going to be over-run by Chinese, we’re not going to be over-run by an Islamic invasion and so on…

And YKW Richard? They’ve already invaded and infiltrated, so have the blacks and Muslims.

Perhaps the fact that Britain seems to be joining the revised TPP11 and the Visigrad Groups are holding their own as a geopolitical connection on the upper Silk Road can provide an ethnonational bulwark against the Spencer/Dugin imperialist blob that would sprawl oblivious to profound heritage, Lisbon to Vladivastok, Vladivastok to Nova Scotia.

Zero sum game is a straw man…

Spencer says Poland can’t do it alone - a straw man because nobody is saying that (or should be saying that they can).

Trump’s Globalist Nationalism:

Spencer calls ethno nationalism a zero sum game -

People who like ethno nationalism probably wouldn’t dwell on that aspect but that is merely happy talk. That really is an expression of ethno nationalism, particularly with regard to neighboring countries - it is about competition, it is certainly not about civilizational nationalism or racial nationalism.

(Spencer tips is Molotov-Ribbentrop hand at this point)

One can see this in the ethnonationalism of western Ukrainians who seem to hate everyone and think everyone’s out to get them.

....to me, the Poles, the Germans, the Russians, everyone…but the fact is, and I think this is very good when we looked at globalism vs nationalism and we all felt like we are in the same boat and there wasn’t this zero sum competition where I, “as an American, want France to do poorly, I want Britain to do poorly” - it wasn’t like that at all, and it should make us rethink that nationalist globalist divide….the fact is that Donald Trump, wearing a Trump hat or a Trump T-shirt became a meme across Europe for a nationalist expression…  on the other hand you have the plucky nationalists, those people who are trying to reassert the sovereignty of the nation state itself and also to reassert their identities and cultures ...true ethno nationalims is, as we’ve seen in the 19th century, a zero sum game - if you are a French nationalist then your doing well is effectively bad for Germany and vice versa; German’s rise is effectively bad for you - it is a zero sum game - we win you lose, you win we lose ...people who like ethno nationalism probably wouldn’t dwell on that aspect, but that’s merely happy talk, particularly with regard to neighboring countries; it really is about competition.

A zero sum game is an imperialist /supremacist model (what I call right wing) - that’s a straw man of ethno nationalism and its true motive. Ethno-nationalism defined properly would provide for accountably delimited, manageable but sufficiently powerful units - manageable units which can then facilitate coordination of the whole regional powers, e.g. the region of Europe or Asia, etc.; which can then, in turn, coordinate between those regional interests.

Spencer is trying camouflage the quid pro quo; but tips his hand with condescending dismissal of Polish and European ethnonationalism, the anti western Ukraine bit - clues to his pro Russian Fed sentiment and neo-Molotov-Ribbentrop larp.

It is imperialism (e.g., Nazi imperialism), not nationalism, or even ethnonationalism, that caused the great wars.

8:03 Trump seems to be searching out a new foreign policy course. ... he seems to have a new rhetoric.

10:00 “The rocket man” (don’t disturb Russian puppet N Korea)

12:55 Spencer defends Venezuela ..we leave them alone (for Putin to look after).

He does criticize Saudi and defend Iran….

17:13: In sum, new realism, new nationalism is window dressing. Ethno nationalists can’t get their head around the fact that Estonia and Poland live within the shadow of America.”

Sure, it’s really hard to understand that we need alliances, powerful alliances, Richard.

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State of The Alt Right.

1:20 a pansy attempt at a cult of Richard Spencer personality..

2:30 so, I’m gonna just throw out a big question, what is the state of the altright?

Spencer answers:

We’re in a difficult position.. derives from hostility and open suppression, private entities, silicon valley… deplatforming from funding services web services…

....push back for being recognized - catching flack for flying over the target…but what doesn’t kill you (makes you stronger - Nietzsche)...

5:55 on the other hand we are experiencing a difficult time for internecine, intramural fights going on…

This needs to be talked about…

We need to give some people some tough love…some times the truth hurts.

8:00 Resistance in Poland..

11:05 I’m a public intellectual…we should not take sides in the second world war. (Really?)

13:20 I was disappointed with the foreign minister, who used this silly, baby boomer liberal language..this kind of stuff is stupid, ‘you’re becoming Americanist in the worst possible way.’

14:38 Within the right you are criticized more often for not embracing this petty nationalist mindset..whereas in mainstream outlets you are criticized as being a Nazi.

15:45 Poland cannot survive on its own (what country would or does?). It was recreated in 1919.

(It was re-established in 1919, upon Pilsudski’s audacious taking-back of the ancient Polish city of Poznan in culmination of 123 years struggle to take back its nationhood from imperialist Austria, Russia and Prussia.)

16:20 it exists now as a Nato state…

(There are some problems with petty nationalism, but thanks for your concern Richard. We’ll be ok without Russia’s help.)

17:58 ..in desperate need of a racial, Pan European consciousness.

18:37 The last thing I would support is some sort of German supremacy (that’s not exactly the problem - the problem is a combined German Russian imperialism.)

21:40 Spencer denounces cold war nostalgia and goes into the Duginesque critique of America - a “far far far greater threat than Russian nationalism… which seems extremely modest and reasonable in comparison to America.” These former Eastern bloc countries don’t get it (maybe you don’t get it, Richard, and that’s why you misconstrue ethnonationalism with imperialism). America is not going to be the savior of Poland; countries in the American sphere are subject to the worst aspects of America - immigration, homosexuality, feminism.

35:00 I will back down this time….(he had planned a visit to Poland but there were hints from high places that he was not welcome in Poland). I was visiting Europe, visiting Russia at least once a year and I will be back…

39:00 The opposition is scared, but that means we are culturally relevant when they are shutting us down.

42:00 Alt Right and optics ...

45:32 This moral signaling by denouncing people ....it is worth talking about the Swastika flag and Roman salute - its a double standard and bullshit compared to Marxist symbolism…

(Spencer and the Alt Right have this incessant bullshit line that the issues with Nazi Germany are surface matters of “optics” and conditioning, not that Nazi Germany was in large epistemological blunder).

Why can’t you admit that you got suckered by your friend, Mike Enoch, who started the Nazi salute thing too?

48:11 Look at how I dress ... I don’t need to engage in denunciations ...I don’t think we can get away from the optics debate..

52:00 We should be bad asses ...people can go too far on both sides, problem of over reacting.

53:00 Everybody was wrong

54:00 We need to step back… our movement needs to be a little shocking…

Nice try Richard, “hail Trump!”

.....hangout with Baked Alaska concludes:

2:17:16 Richard Spencer: It’s all well and good to talk about we just want our little countries, we just want our little Poland, that’s not going to cut it.

Get over it man. This straw-man. Who is saying that we just want our little Poland?

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Chinese slur ‘White Left’ as Cultural Marxist shows Jewish power, influence, aversion to White Left

Posted by DanielS on Sunday, 31 December 2017 01:30.

I’ve known for some time now that since about 2011 or 2012 that the Chinese have unfortunately adopted the “White Left” as a slur term for White (or what they perceive as White) cultural Marxists and corollary liberals.

However, I’m not really worried about the Chinese smear “White Left” for a couple important reasons.

White Left (ethno) Nationalism is internally consistent in its position. And in its rule structure, it is not only totally different from cultural Marxism and liberalism, it is in fact closer to the opposite in its disposition to White (European descent) boundaries and borders, regarding rather a serious concern to curate our history, to maintain our inheritance and lineage. This internal consistency of White Left definition is immediately verifiable as such and can be referred to at any time - the application of the term has been consistent in its call for an effective genetic unionization of our peoples - recognizing in and out groups - genetic group(s) called “our” people as opposed to genetic friends and enemies - this provides for accountability to human ecology, historical social capital; and crucially, among the important reasons to retain the moniker “left”, accountability against potential elite betrayal (as they are in key positions to do most damage from limited positions); along with safe guarding not only the interests of rank and file, it ensures criteria (“union rules”) that provide for their accountability as well, against any propensity which they, as rank and file, may have toward over-liberalization of national/group bounds, viz. significant transgressions of bounds and borders.

White Left (ethno) Nationalism is Nationalist - therefore it is not liberal, it speaks of ecological delimitations of peoples, not universal liberalism as the Chinese smear term would describe, or similarly, as our smear term “Red Left”, i.e., Jewish left, would be descriptive of - a “universal leftism” - i.e., a universal liberalism which the Chinese call White Left and what I call “Red” or “Jewish Left”, is prescribed by Jewish interests and their internationalist right wing cohorts, prescribed for others and instigated of them to participate in activism toward a withering away of the state in favor of an arbitrarily composed and controllable international proletariat.

Whereas our Class, the White Class, corresponds to the whole delimited ethno Nation, rich, poor, private property and business owners, whomever, innocent until proven guilty - as a rule, accounts requested should be kept to a minimum.

But because we are accountable as nationalists, of our rank and file while maintaining a vigilance on elite betrayal and liberal internationalism, we are therefore able to cooperate with our left nationalist friends, such as the Chinese and other left nationalists, against right wing / liberal imperialism as it would be imposed by Jewish interests along with their right wing/liberal White cohorts and their Muslim and black shock troop enforcers.

Finally, the Chinese term, White Left, that has been in vogue in China since about 2011 to label White/Jewish Cultural Marxists/liberals, is a word spoken in Chinese; while we speak English and take full advantage of our capacity to define White Left Nationalism as we see fit, and have done that, consistently.

It is entirely different from liberalism and cultural Marxism. Rather it is true security in what is most important and true liberation for our people, our sovereignty as such.

If anything, the Chinese use of the term “White Left” as a smear only confirms Jewish hegemony over prevailing and pervasive discourse - with cultural Marxism reaching its apex during the final days of television’s pre-eminence (a horrible situation where this TV box issued propaganda and you could not talk back, interact and correct what it was saying) in the early 1990’s after the fall of The Soviet Union and before the advent of the internet. The dialectic between Jewish left and Jewish right began a slow, controlled evolution away from the Marxist culture of critique following the fall of communism; and went into full swing in the other direction of Jewish controlled dialectic, with the sub-prime crisis of 2008, as Jewish consolidation of power niches made criticism of “the right” no longer to their advantage, now that they were on top of seven power niches -  critique of the right began to “intersect” against their interests - i.e., a continued critique of the right and popularization of a friendly disposition toward a left perspective would highlight their unjust power and influence; as such would call for unionized alliances against them. Hence, they have marshaled the hegemony of discourse more and more against “the left”, with the spearhead “Alternative Right.” At this point, they have so successfully hoodwinked the masses it seems the YKW have everybody constantly ranting against “the left” ...how convenient, what a Cohencidence!

Of course they rattle on with a bunch of cliches - typically accusing us of trying to apply artificial concepts to nature, of being anti-nature, being on an impossible quest for “equality”; and they constantly interpose straw men as opposed to what we are really saying - saying cultural Marxism and liberalism are “the left” - when, in fact, these “movements” are the opposite of left activism, the opposite for White unionization, anyway - i.e., anything but a “White Left.”

But they carry on with these cliches and ridiculous distortions that cultural Marxism has promulgated, oblivious to the fact that we are not guilty of the theoretical errors, gross distortions of hermeneutics and social contructionism, the flagrant violation of scientific fact that they point to as examples of “our perfidy” in advance of their newly (((consecrated))) heroic bastion of truth and anti-PC, the “Right” and “Alt-Right.” 

And so I say to my Left Nationalist Chinese comrades, with a wink at that term, comrade, what you are calling “White Left” is not a White left at all, but cucked Whites and cucking Jews who are imposing liberalism and cultural Marxism upon the west, opening its bounds and boundaries with the aim now of aligning its right wing reaction against Muslim “extremists”, “Hispanics” and Asians.

The Left as liberalism is an oxymoron that the regular right and Alt Right slavishly partakes of, as their Jewish flank does and would have them do. A White Left (ethno) Nationalism observes the principle of unionization, its recognition and maintenance of in and out groups, which is the opposite of liberalism and its arbitrary doing away with any such provision for accountability to unionized bounds and borders.

To repeat in sum, the Chinese slur ‘White Left’ as a designator of Cultural Marxism and its liberal activism shows Jewish discourse hegemony and influence, its diversion from true White Left Nationalism. It is a testimony to Jewish hegemony in discourse heretofore and how much they don’t want a true White left.

It is a reflection really, of how much the YKW and their right wing cohorts, sell outs, loyalists to their elitist ilk, whatever, don’t want us to have a concept of a proper White Left, unionization of our peoples to provide for social accountability and vigilance on elite betrayal as such, in a way that right wing, objectivist and otherworldly criteria do not provide - they propose disingenuous and naive avoidance of social accountability.

It just goes to show how comprehensive that the Jews have been in denying a White left, in cucking the very notion, that they have the vast nation of China calling White liberals and cultural Marxists, “the White Left”

Maybe Black Pigeon Speaks isn’t Jewish, but I’d want to see a DNA test to prove that, both for reasons of what he says and for how he looks - seems quite Jewish on both counts. And yes, he fits well, even if ad hoc, with the Jewish marketing campaign of Jewish hegemonic interests against “the left” - particularly in this propaganda piece to promote the Chinese slur of liberalism and cultural Marixism as “White Left.”

Along with the deception of hegemonic Jewish discourse, one by which they are doing all they can to align White advocacy with their Jewish interests against “the left”, one must also take into account the fact that if Jewish crypsis can fool White people into not making a distinction between Whites and Jews, think how much more their crypsis would fool Chinese!


Kumiko Oumae: That (esteemed Red color) is non ironically what they’re growing up around

Kumiko Oumae: Also, the yellow stuff symbolises the ethnic groups.

daniel sienkiewicz: Anyway, for now, its most important for me to be internally consistent, which I am.

Kumiko Oumae: Eg, the big yellow star flanked by four little stars on the China flag, is Han Chinese plus ethnic minorities

daniel sienkiewicz: So they are claiming “left nationalism” for red and yellow?

daniel sienkiewicz: and not left internationalism in the Jewish sense?

daniel sienkiewicz: as in eradication or withering away of the state on behalf of the international workers union?

It just goes to show how comprehensive that the Jews have been in controlling the discourse so as to deny a White left, because they know how serviceable that a proper definition of the term would be - they’ve tried to cuck the very term and have the vast nation of China calling White liberals and Cultural Marxists, “the White left.”

However, adding the term “Nationalist”, and more specifically “ethnonationalist” to the term White Left, helps greatly to counter its being misunderstood as liberal or cultural Marxist. That helps, along with our internal consistence and its reliable heuristic utility indeed.

It is a reflection really, of how much the YKW and their right wing cohorts, sell outs to their nation/ loyalists to their elitist ilk, whatever, don’t want us to have a concept of a proper White left, unionization of our peoples to ensure accountability and vigilance on elite betrayal; how irresponsible they are to the nations which birthed them and to the means by which nationhood would provide for the human and pervasive ecology necessary for world maintenance. 

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Nimrod - The Sceen Play by DanielS & Majorityrights

Posted by DanielS on Monday, 25 December 2017 01:01.

“The Mystery of Ishtar and Tammuz provides a key for understanding the world-redemptive destiny of the North Atlantic.” — K. H

Nimrod - A Screenplay by Daniel Sienkiewicz and Majorityrights Associates

Atmosphere music: King Crimson, The Sheltering Skye (studio version is appropriate, but only this live version is currently available on Youtube).

What is the antithetical taboo to miscegenation? Why of course it is incest.

What is the greatest horror? It is unavoidable negative fate and its eternal recurrence.

These themes are captured in the most classic, and primordial even, of Western narratives - in the story of Oedipus Rex and his mother/wife Jocasta, going back further historically, in the Egyptian story of Osiris and his half sister/wife Isis, back further still, to Ishtar and Tammuz, and finally to Nimrod, the first great man on earth, Genesis 10:10, and his mother/wife, Semiramis.

Infiltration of the Babylonian Mystery Religion, Mother of all Wanton Harlots, 666, etc.

Now the reason is understood as to why Abraham was against this mystery religion - because it sacralized re-breeding to the point of inbreeding even, where necessary, while Abraham in the case of Babylon wanted to promote out breeding among its gentiles and later, wanted to do that to Rome, in order to bring down these adversaries of Israel and the Jews.

Hence the true evil mystery religions, universal Abrahamism, was imposed upon the world. Monotheistic of god’s “chosen people”, it was mongrelizing for all people except the Jews.

And the antidote taboo-breaking of incest, its sacralization (as a ritualistic gesture), was confounded as the greatest evil - and indeed it must be mostly symbolic as such unions are obviously going to result in the likes of King Tut’s massive health problems (himself a product of incest) or even Charles and Harry’s odd taste in women, as sort of a convulsive, balancing reaction (a little levity there, for those who share my distaste for their taste).

Thus, we want to avoid its reality beyond sacred ritual - and not just for physical maladies, but because we want to be careful about psychological effects as well on the formation of minds. At any rate, it is not commendable to take away the relatively agentive, mature and well informed choice of sexual partner. Sex is not only an important matter in determining the population of a human ecology, but a matter of confirmation and disconfirmation of personalities, virtues (or not), politics and more.

“Enjoy the fantasy” may break the over alluringness of the incest taboo for those prone.

So that’s some background to let the audience know that I’m not playing loosely with a justifiable taboo: if it is to be thematized as a counter taboo and aspect of sacralization toward a narrative to run counter to the Abrahamic cult of out-breeding, it must be done with sufficient accountability - even its narrative form must be discussed with caution and look toward matters of scientific verificaton; e.g., regarding what amount of inbreeding is alright, beneficial or detrimental; physically as well as psychologically and sociologically.

Having issued that caveat….

I conceived of writing this screenplay many years ago (in the early 80s), still stuck in the Abrahamic way, I thought to render its story along the conventional Abrahamic lines, of the pervasive infiltration of the evil mystery religion - into Western traditions and “false” practices of Christianity, most symbolically with Christmas - to deceive the peoples of earth against the “true” Christianity.

The horror of eternal recurrence and discovery thereof: from Oedipus to Crohaven Farm, The Sentinel and The Omen. And salvation through the counter taboo from the horror of this unavoidable fate, eternal cycles and eternal recurrence.

Now I see it the other way around - that Abrahamism holds the true horror, is the evil mystery religion which has (more literally) infiltrated pervasive world practice.. e.g., we worship a virgin birth and self sacrifice instead of a product, to some extent, of tribal and royal line in-group breeding… symbolizing the cultivated turn, deliberation rather than sheer liberalism; i.e., not quite severe inbreeding, but recreating the genetic pattern of our human ecologies.

With Abrahamism, rather, our fate is re-designated, or de-designated, as it were, “gentiles” - re-designated beyond our control, the fate of our people, beyond our management. Our hope is not our future with our peoples. Our only hope for salvation is through selflessness and altruism.

The only foreseeable way out once having been intimidated by its book of Revelation, with eternal hell, 666, having to “hate one’s family”, where one is evil for even having a thought, etc., is to identify, to conceive of oneself, one’s people and to make oneself and people as-one-with the Jews as possible; for example:

The peoples of the United States, the British Commonwealth nations, and the nations of northwestern Europe are, in fact, the peoples of the Ten Tribes of the House of Israel. The Jewish People are the House of Judah.”

That is the true culmination of the true infiltration of the evil mystery religion - i.e., Abrahamism, Abrahamic imperialism upon Western peoples and ultimately the whole world.

It compels full culturalist merging as well, through false opposition, Noahide law and paleoconservatism of the Alt-Right.

To be continued, that is, I will be cultivating this screenplay on line…

The Counter Taboo…

Opening scene: Music, The Sheltering Skye by King Crimson. Characters: mother, father with two children, a boy and a girl. The mother and father are decorating the Christmas tree with their son…he goes up stairs…


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