5 minutes largely destroying Pat Buchanan & David Duke’s Hitler apologetics: Hitler was Not WN Part7

Posted by DanielS on Wednesday, 05 December 2018 21:28.

Hitler was Not White Nationalist Part 7

In five minutes (36:53 - 41:53), Professor Margaret MacMillan destroys Pat Buchanan and David Duke’s claim that Hitler was bargaining in good faith, and that he only wanted what was “unjustifiably” taken from Germany by Versailles, that he didn’t have imperial supremacist war in mind all along, irrespective of its potential and real destruction to European peoples, including his own, German.

Trinity College Dublin
Published on Nov 1, 2017
Delivered on Thursday, 26 October 2017, Professor Margaret MacMillan

Professor of International History at the University of Oxford, Margaret MacMillen gave the Trinity Long Room Hub Annual Edmund Burke Lecture 2017 which is supported by a generous endowment in honour of Padraic Fallon by his family.

Speakers:
Professor Margaret MacMillan
Professor Jane Ohlmeyer (Director, Trinity Long Room Hub)


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Posted by KM needs to balance and round the square on Sun, 09 Dec 2018 02:51 | #

I was prepared to like this discussion between Prof. MacDonald and RamzPaul, but then perhaps I should not have been surprised to be a little disappointed.

RamzPaul asked KM about cultural influences, Nazism and cognitive malleability as opposed to determinism.

He was most interesting in regard to determinism, citing studies which show the cerebral cortex providing for choices.

However, he applied this capacity to Jewry in a way that gives away his hope for quid pro-quo with them, which corresponds to his scientific perspective’s tendency to be naive with regard to manichean sorts, such as the YKW.

A major blind spot shows in this regard as he continues to speak of “the left” (buying into the manipulated term) as if it is this anthropomorphised thing which has agency, but refuses to use it, “no longer caring about class and the workers, but only race now.”

As if it is not people, viz. Jewry, who have steered “The Left” in this internationalist way; and people, I.e. Whites, who can agentively take the best attributes of group compassion and defense for ourselves, and our nationalisms, in White/Left ethnonationalism.

One of the problems with MacDonald is that he’s a bit of a 1950’s square and a bit too Germanophilic.

With that, he gave an unsatisfyingly positive answer about Nazi Germany while emphasizing his perspective on the centrality of Germans to Europe. While it is fine to look favorably upon Germans and their contributions and to cite positive sides of the Nazis as well as mitigating circumstances - there’s already been way too much of it in WN - when it comes to WN, our interests and coordination, that sort of perspective needs to be balanced off; in fact, the Germans need help and they are not going to be as inclined to get it if the excellence of other Europeans is not balanced into the equation as well as some recognition of the catastrophic mistakes that Germany has committed - central also when it comes to our destruction and prospects for future survival.

When asked about the Nazis, all KM says in this episode is, well, they really revived the economy and instilled a sense of pride in the Germans in the 1930s. The economic rise of Nazi Germany isn’t beyond reproach; and it’s possible that Friedrich the Great and other’s plundering and exploitation facilitated achievements while overshadowing and tending to downplay value in other nations contributions.

Maybe the Nazis did instill a sense of pride, but how about a sense of necessary coordination? Did they instill that?

Moreover, all KM adds is that “maybe Hitler should have negotiated and let some cities go that should be German.”

Poor.

That he doesn’t cite Jewry (esp Marcuse, Freud) as a major influence to the affectation of “free love” in the 60s and continues, I presume, to see no organic motive (viz. Being/MidtDasein) but strictly a top down Jewish control to the anti war movement is the least of my criticisms this time around. Square.

DanielS


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Posted by A one line comment... on Mon, 10 Dec 2018 01:51 | #

about your myopic Polish chauvinism and you go into an anti-German frenzy for weeks. Get a life.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 10 Dec 2018 02:23 | #

A parsimonious response. About your myopic German chauvinism and your having been into a totally dishonest anti-Polish frenzy for your entire life. Get a life.

I can comfortably leave-up this comment of yours, because it simply isn’t true. I am an advocate of all European ethno nationals and diaspora; I don’t defend any European people or group where they are wrong (at odds with our interest and coordination with others), whereas you will advocate Germans even where they are clearly wrong. This extent of unanimity is a very Jewy thing that you do.

You are trying to project your German chauvinism onto me and it simply doesn’t hold up what-so-ever. I would rather not be forced to pick up the slack of covering the Polish perspective where it is under represented and over-blamed, but in so called WN, it is under defended and over-attacked by re-hashed Nazi propaganda.

I work and post in balance and fairness of representation.

As a half Italian / half Polish American, it is not only awkward (particularly as I go by my mother’s maiden name and live in Poland) to have to defend the Polish position, but I honestly prefer to attend to present theoretical matters of our mutual interest. I was asked to take-on the matter of WN’s absurd Hitler/Nazi redemptionism (“chauvinism” is a vast understatement) and can unfortunately agree that it needs to be done.

What does one “learn” in so called White Nationalism? “Hitler/Nazism didn’t do nothing wrong.”

A starting point in addressing this ridiculous Nazi redemptionism is with anti-Polinism, which goes back to Frederick the Great (whom Hitler idolized). It extends to America’s largely Germanic and misinformed demographic. What did I know about Poles and Poland in my decades growing up in America? Polish = a joke. That was basically it. Unfortunately then, people need some corrective information.

Where do you see a “frenzy of Polish chauvinism” here? You are absurd. And you have tried this ridiculous trope, projecting your chauvinism onto me, many times before.

Next time you try another comment like this (which you have many times before) it will be removed because it is sheer obfuscation on your part - you provide no substantive backing, it simply has not truth to it.


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Posted by Miss Egzotica on Fri, 14 Dec 2018 00:16 | #

Diversity Macht Frei is running this article about a program called “Euroweek” which began at the University of Economics in Katowice under the name “Euroweek School of Leaders”. It is encouraging White girls to “integrate” with non-Whites.

First of all, I would like to say that females are females, YKW are YKW, doing what they do and liberals are liberals, doing with they do in reaction ...i.e., in Poland as well.

And even though Poland is so far doing better in resisting the disintegration of its peoples and their integration with others, it is nevertheless a European culture under the same assaults.

For example, back in 2010, a magazine called Business & Beauty, organized a contest in Poland called “Miss Egzotica International” - it was a beauty pageant for non-White and non-Polish women held in Poland, to laud the beauty of dark and mixed race women.

I complained to the organizer that she was inviting rape and murder to Poland. I am lucky that the only response was that she contacted a university associate, viz. a Professor, who assured me that he “condemned racism.” ...to which I replied, you say that, but I assure you that would not move to Haiti.

For another example of the assault, a long time ago, going back to around 2,000, I overheard an influential Jewish/Polish musician describing with great satisfaction that the city of Lodz, Poland, had programs for sponsoring Africans for a few months, immersing them in intensive Polish language programs…and then “sending them all over Poland”... like that was a good thing.

I was in a position where I had to keep my mouth shut, but I can assure you this was not the good news to me that it was to him.

Now we’ve got increased numbers of America troops stationed here, and you know what that brings…

I repeat, females are females, YKW are YKW, liberals are liberals and Poland is a White Nation that will be under attack and needs to cultivate the human ecological homeostasis of its ethnonationalism in coordination with other ethnonationalisms…

But it has been challenging to advise this, particularly against American liberalism’s hegemony, when that was seen as the most important ally against Soviet and Nazi oppression….



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