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Germanophilia encouraged to point of Nazi redemptionism as divide/conquer triangulation against WN TriangulationOne of the advantages that Jews have in altercasting White identity as right wing or somehow in response/reaction to “the left’s social concerns”, is that they can take advantage of the inherent instability of right wing reactionary rigidity, its quest for pure warrant beyond social accountability and correctability, whether in Nazism’s natural fallacy or Christianity’s otherworldly nonsense (kosher diversion). It has been apparent for some time that some Jewish perspectives are using a triangulation strategy against White identity and solidarity, by encouraging singularly focused Germanophilia in WN, even to the point of encouraging ostensible WN advocates to roll around in Nazi redemptionism and Holocaust well, if not denial, then downplaying with “humor”, etc. With White America being largely German, there is going to be enough of a true believers market, people desperate enough given the onslaught of PC liberalism and lacking in time, energy and concern to see beyond an overly German sympathetic perspective (with its background of Jewish interests) - wanting to believe rather that they are in sheer defiance of the anti-White, PC narrative - such that they will go along with this angle, not particularly concerned that they are playing into a divide and conquer triangulation.
 Perhaps Thamster’s shirt is funny tooThamster, Josh Neal and Jefferson Lee. Quite articulate of liberalism’s rupture of the organic whole, but what they haven’t figured out is that Hitler and Jesus are not what is needed to keep it together. The day before Richard Spencer’s NPI channel was taken down from Youtube, he was in conversation with these guys extolling the virtues of Mussolini and Hitler (David Duke was doing the same thing the same day and his channel was also taken down after he went on about all the “peace offerings” that Hitler had made. lol). Jefferson Lee invokes the absurd, “they’re going to call you a Nazi anyway” argument (i.e., so you may as well prove them right?). When unavailable for a show, Josh says that Jefferson Lee is busy planning the revival of The Prussian empire (so funny).  The Final Solution to the Denier Question David Cole Stein 30 July 2020. 32:05: “Here we have the most prominent deniers. Here is Robert Faurisson (French). He’s dead now.See also, Do Joel Davis and Richard Spencer Want to Suck Jewish Cock? ...or would they prefer to take it up the ass? ....... Note, I will be adding to this article, but for now, let’s get it underway, starting with that, the hypothesis. The observation of this misdirecting pattern is the important issue at this point. There is no urgent need to trace this pattern to a single or few sources, though there are some of the usual suspects, like Regnery publishing and some of its Alt-Right/Dissident Right/ come Third Positionist/ (((Alt-Lite))) orbiters…  The Final Solution to the Denier Question Here is Jurgen Graf, ok, he’s a Swiss gentleman. While he is apparently innocuous, David Cole Stein’s Holocaust revisionism has been enough to ingratiate himself in this Jewish sponsored Germanophilism; a proud German-Jew, he is not above coddling Nazism a bit, apparently for the sake of re-routing animus against other Europeans. Cole-Stein uses the revisionist cred and attention that he gets to promote The Institute of Historical Review and “true historians, ‘Mark Weber and David Irving.” “Hey! quit fuckin around, come on, we’re trying to teach the people something.”  The Final Solution to the Denier Question And Carlo Mentionio (not a wink and a nod but emphatic Italian emotive, including gesticulation to make it clear that he is NOT German). Aaay! ‘Scusi carabinieri, Carlo Mentionio gobadagul gabagul!’ “So this is the denier side. Here we have the three stooges on the denier side (Faurisson, Graf, and Mentionio).” “This side is the actual historian side. Mark Weber which is represented by the Journal of Historical Review that he edits. David Irving…and then you got me. So, here we have me, Irving, Weber. We represent real history.”
 While Greg Johnson’s “New Right/Old Right” has denounced Hitler and the Nazi project as counter to current WN interests, of late he has returned to performing rim jobs on overly Nazi sympathetic perspectives. In a recent podcast featured by Counter-Currents, Frodi Midjord goes along with Mark Weber’s (IHR) endorsement of Patrick Buchanan’s dubious, “The Unnecessary War,” to set in motion a perverted line of “reasoning” that blames everybody but Hitler, but especially Churchill for WWII. Of course David Irving’s pro-Hitler slant also works well enough for them. In fact, there are two recent podcasts with Mark Weber featured at Counter-Currents, here is one, “The War That Destroyed The West”. Here is another. Besides the pandering of Greg Johnson and Counter-Currents, Regnery Publishing has long been suspect, showing signs of promoting this Jewish/German, Germanophilic perspective to the point of soft peddling Nazism. Along with Germanophilic Regnery, there are apparently Jews involved in its executive decision making. The Regnery circus, as we might call it, was pivotal in orchestrating the Alt-Right Tentosphere, a paleoconservative 2.0 which featured tents not only for Christians and right wing Jews, but also for atheistic Nazophiles.
Many people orbiting White advocacy, like Jonathan Pohl, Right Ruminations and “Terminal Philosophy” a friend of queer Pilleater, cite Paul Gottfried as a reliable leading light. While Gilad Atzmon is another Jew who tends to pander to the Germanophilic perspective; and will get some endorsement from the likes of David Duke, as such. The latest means of introducing Nazi triangulation has been through the promotion of “Third Positionism”.... Mark Collett and Keith Woods have been a party to this, sadly along with Morgoth (who should know better, but I already tried and failed to dissuade him). I initially took a disliking to Angelo John Ganucci because he was both popular and taking the line that the most intellectually penetrating of WN were “National Socialists” (Nazis). Typical of right wingers, he demonstrated the inherent instability of the right by becoming a defacto liberal rebounding into “Third Positionist” anti-Zionist (while diaspora Jews can be fellow nationalists with him). Just before he was disgraced, Millennial Warts made a statement that “World War II shouldn’t have happened” and added, to paraphrase, that ‘anybody who can’t accept that Britain made a mistake in entering World War II, that they took the wrong side, is just going to have to step aside, sorry.’ How about Hitler not attacking other European nations if you want to exercise 20/20 hindsight? Warts is soon to be resurrected by Fudge Johnson for an interview over there at Counter-Currents. Johnson can be a bad judge of character; recall that Warts was indignant with me and Majorityrights when I criticized his (self admitted) confidante (((Vivian Veritas))) for attempting to define terms for White nationalism, and Warts demanded that his link be removed from our site. the_lies_will_try_to_live_but_theyre_not_white_theyre_jewish Some flaming asshole going by the name of Tom Anderson is a definite gate keeper - he has a wrench on several podcasts and is decidedly against me for my stance against Nazophiles in particular; but strangely, he will join Christians, such as Melchy Zedech when they antagonize me, even when they side with Jews, such as Vivian Veritas. Church of Entropy joined Wll2PWR and Ovfuckyou to attack me for not adopting a right wing position when I began talking with Ecce Lux; in CoE’s case (and she has no business in WN circles) her motive might have been a bit different, but she was joining Wll2PWR who was attacking me mainly because I’m not Germanophilic to the point of Nazism and Ovfuckyou, decidedly against me because I maintain a platform which rejects Nazism. I lost confidence in Ecce Lux not as much because of his Christianity, but because he let Ov attack me for rejecting Nazism, trying to say that I was too sensitive because I didn’t want to entertain it; that he’d “been through that” - “brainwashed” into thinking that “the Nazis were bad.” Ecce Lux and Faustian Spirit (who I talked to and also should know better) apparently go along with this Right Wing/Third Positionist angle encouraged by Tom Anderson; while Dennis Dale tags along, unwilling or unable to get out of the kosher discourse box.  The idiotic Chinese woman, Claire Khaw, panders to Nazophiles with the absurd line that she just wants to promote “real nationalism” and “Hitler just wanted his day in the sun”.... to demonstrate the innocent integrity of Nazi Germany, she brought an Israeli onto her show to talk with Nazi ovfuckyou, and he agreed that the “Nazis were really Ok.”... apparently the argument being that if that’s what it takes to sort people unto their nations [IF].
The epistemic grounds to reject Hitler should be clear enough to anyone proposing that they are qualified for a leadership role in WN. But these two (Mark Collett and Mike ‘Enoch’ Peinovich) are apparently carrying-on as if they are pragmatists. How do they propose that their explicitly unapologetic Hitler/Nazi coddling will be anything but terribly divisive of White Nationalism in addition to being epistemologically unnecessary? If one is to exercise 20/20 hindsight, why not wish that Hitler didn’t attack other European nations; putting efforts instead toward cooperative deportation of non-Europeans?
This is not so much addressed to Enoch-Peinovich, as he has already been quarantined from this platform as an eminently dubious actor. However, Collett… ...to address a few absurdities by Collett in this podcast… First of all, Collett invoked this rule that WN bandies about, which does not make perfect sense: i.e, “never apologize.” Well, what if you’re terribly wrong? I remember people from the White Voice (guest Heimbach high-fiving host Adams for) refusing to apologize when they mistook Elin Krantz with the actor who posed mounted on top of a black in the mock Swedish National Anthem commercial: therefore “she got what she deserved”. Why not apologize for Elin’s sake? But this is different. Not asking for an apology from Collett but rather for signs of intelligence enough (or honesty enough) that he can see things better now. Collett invokes the long ago BBC ambush report which finds him now confirming that he’d still rather his daughter be born in 1930s Germany than some parts of England because she would be “more safe.”   And would his daughter be more safe still, in 1940s Germany, once the Nazi regime got through with murdering millions of people, including millions of civilian women and children, thus provoking revenge and violent retribution upon her? Would it not be a better idea to find a way to move to a safer part of England while fairly assured that your parenting would give your daughter a better chance to not be groomed, and that you’d have some time for community activism, the kind you engage now, to root-out the problem?  Adding to the foible that he’d rather his daughter be born in 1930’s Germany, while that remark was initiated a long time ago, this one wasn’t: Listing his three favorite books - firstly Mein Kampf. Was that long ago Mark? Sure as reliable Mike Enoch set in motion the whole stiff arm thing that made Richard Spencer Fuhrer for a day…  ..now you’ve got Enoch (who thinks he’s proved that he deserves to participate in European advocacy - he thinks so), running interference for you. He says that he’s not going to apologize for his admiration for certain figures of the Nazi era, “they’re going to call everyone Nazis anyway.”....  ....“and look at the gun shows”, how the Nazi memorabilia is snapped up (therefore, it’s really ok to see Hitler’s as just another voice in our round table.) He challenges any of us “optics cucks” (the marketing campaign that Enoch is part of calls for him to suggest that there is no profound reason to reject Hitler, that the argument boils down to how Nazi imagery will look to the “brainwashed” normies), he believes that he can out-verbalize any of us in terms of winning over the “normies.” ...confident in his kosher verbal skills, he is.
 The Absolute State of Britain, on Mike Enoch’s TRS network.If you are able to articulate public relations manipulation so well, how did you wind up altercast?
Now, “The Absolute State of Britain” airs over at Mike Enoch’s TRS Network - which I have long recognized as the main distribution outlet for the kosher marketing campaign devised to take White reaction against neo-conservatism, PC and increasing Jewish power and influence circa 2008, and to direct (nudge) it into a revised (((paleoconservatism))) 2.0 called the Alt-Right (now dissident right/ or neither left nor right as “increasingly meaningless terms” or third positionism) against a characterology of the left. That is, they were nudging the reaction to stay on the right (anti social, stigmatic, disruptive and divisive of organizational power) and providing voice to White reaction, alt-right tents among the tentosphere (Christians, Nazis, the scientistic, the nutty conspiracy theorists and yet another tent for right wing Jews as proposed allies) if they went along and manifested some anti-social stigma, maintained identity as right wing reaction against hyperbolic inernationalist/anti-nationalist Marxist and Cultural Marxist (anti-White) organization/ coalitions characterized as “THE” Left, characterized as didactically repulsive and absurd so that Whites didn’t get the idea of White Left Ethnonationalism and its concept of broad unionization to delimit and protect the bounds of White people - because then they’d begin to organize their power and set sights on the pervasive pattern of kosher folks who naturally advocated for liberal scabbing of their borders and bounds as a rule; and then they’d look up and see who was on top, fucking them over: Kosher folks in 7-9 power niches in tandem with White right wing elitist sell outs, purity spiralists and Liberals taking the license, licentiousness offered them in the disordered circumstance of their borders and bounds having been flung wide open. I have elaborated in many places about how and what it means to be right wing and liberal (objectivism at its base as an excuse with ever narrowing, “more pure” warrant as its source of power; minimizing accountability to borders and bounds of one’s people, indebtedness and responsibility thereof) and why the kosher folks want Whites to maintain that identity. Also, a characterology of “The Left” with all the absurdities of the exaggerated abuses of group organization, individual agency and activism, associated even at its base, organizational essence, as something only for anti-Whites. ...a dozen memes perhaps (red pills, normies, optics cucking, social justice warriors, etc) provided by some NY PR firm and placed in the portfolio of a Mike Enoch to deliver to the goyim with an instruction, “Be as anti-Semitic and pro-Hitler as you need.” ...“call your show the ‘Daily Shoah’ and make ‘oven’ jokes… you’ll establish the ‘vanguard’ and tell people that the ‘normies’ don’t understand like we do, nor do the ‘optics cucks’, so for the most part we’ll have to wink and nod, knowing that “our Uncle” (Enoch literally refers to Hitler that way in the show below) had it all right, but they won’t understand, so keep it cool, “See Kyle!” (lol) until enough of them are ‘red pilled’, especially given the ‘lefties’ out there, who might not want us to deny ‘the holahoax’....you know how unreasonable and anti free speech THE LEFT is.” The Absolute State Of Britain #61: Black Riots Matter (With MIKE ENOCH) Meanwhile we’ve got other tents working the other right wing reactionary angles to direct them against our characterology of “The Left”. We’ve got the Christian tents to keep the goyim yoked under Noahide law. We’ve got Keith Preston to help them, e.g., Todd Lewis and Right Ruminations to maintain the left as the demon. Where audience turns for something else, we’ve got a tent for people who say “neither left nor right” so that Whites don’t get any idea of the organizational power of White Left Ethnonationalism.  And if they begin to get the idea, we can subvert it with another tent to appeal to newbies with “Third Positionism”..served up by useful idiots Keith Woods (with Cultured Thug, who was singing the virtues of third positionism, Hitler and Mussolini with Richard Spencer et al, the day before Spencer’s channel got taken down), Thamster, Jefferson Lee and Eric Striker (Mike Enoch there to help, of course), promoting it to provide a back door and means to maneuver our people by exploiting its no account, non socially corrective rigid reaction against our social systemic homeostasis/ self corrective, self governing autonomy (specifically subverted by introducing to this left cover, an option for Christianity, or the rational blindness of scientism and objectivism, which dovetails with Hitler adulation).  To shore up this reactionary position against the left, cooler heads will be directed from that horror show back to the home base Gottfried tent where it all started for good old fashioned paleoconservatism; and now that Richard Spencer took the nudge a bit too far at Mike Enoch’s prompting, we have the still edgy, but not too edgy new paleocon, Nick Fuentes, to retain the Christian, Noahide jurisdictional yoke. ....yielding the paleocon torch to the cookie monster, Nick Fuentes..
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Posted by mancinblack on Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:11 | # The lengths some people will go to. An extra furlong in this case. Not the type of article you would expect at the Occidental Observer…but then again… https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/08/21/the-dirty-secret-thoughts-on-being-a-mischling/ 3
Posted by Normies on Thu, 17 Sep 2020 23:44 | # 4
Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 02 Oct 2020 00:12 | # Good . You and GW are Poles apart. Here is a fine example of Polish thinking : https://www.rt.com/news/502241-polish-education-minister-lgbt/ You can buy a never - to - be worn Doctoral pileus and jack off into it. 5
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 02 Oct 2020 03:16 | # Al, While your tongue is lodged inside of Hitler’s asshole, your ears might be open, so listen and take note that I do not disparage Germans or German (ethno)nationalism; in fact, I support them - in Germany and in their diaspora, as I support all European peoples and their nationalism; and I view Jews as non-European peoples, with different interests, ranging from latent conflict to the enormous antagonism on balance that we are all familiar with, a people to be separated from and guarded against with the utmost skill. By constast, Al, your comment displays a major problem of Hitler/Nazi redemptionism - it requires disparagement and dishonest vilification of other European peoples - and disregard for the bead on the J.Q. that these other nations had as well, that could have been coordinated with, say, in service of deportation. Do I denounce Hitler/Nazi redemptionism, denial of Nazi war crimes and disregard for the harm they did to other European peoples, the lies and dishonest excuses made for Hitler’s war and crimes? The destructive inhibition by ramification that all this has imposed on ethnonationalism? Yes. But if a person were to come and say - ‘you know, Hitler had x things right, had y smart insights, had z reasons compelling him and not allowing him to have perspective to pursue national coordination among Europeans as opposed to war; but no need for guilt trips, as it is history, and as history we can see clearly and learn from it; that on balance his epistemological blunder was catastrophic and unnecessary; and with that it is clear that he and his Nazi regime have to be rejected; we need to move past it as unworkable and counter productive to coordinating interests among European peoples and with non-Europeans’ - that would be perfectly reasonable. 6
Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 02 Oct 2020 03:49 | # Truth be told, I have learned more from GW than I have from Herr Hitler so you may have to reassess the position of my lingual appendage. 7
Posted by White Supremacists on Sat, 03 Oct 2020 09:34 | # To give credit where cred it is due: Jefferson Lee makes a good point that “white supremacism” is primarily a tag that elites apply to middle and working class Whites who are trying to not lose upward mobility and fall downward. 8
Posted by Nikolai Sergei Karkaroff on Mon, 05 Oct 2020 06:43 | # Another thumbs up for calling out this disgusting divide and conquer strategy by (((Nazis))). I have a hypothesis, a rather conspiratorial one, and not well thought out I admit: Adolf Hitler had no long term intentions of defeating global Jewishness, but would have been perfectly fine with a Jewish state in North Caucassia, even Russia or Ukraine (as they weren’t “(((Aryan)))”-which totally means white people goys-so not deserving of sovereignty). Hitler had no intention of ending Marxism contrary to the claims of (((Nazis))) and the (((Marxists))) themselves who pretend that Hitler was anti-Marxist due to how he presented himself in his campaigns. I read (((Mein Kampf))) and really, reading it reveals a lot about Hitler so it is intuitively plausible that Hitler was not even personally anti-Jewish just as he wasn’t personally anti-Soviet. 9
Posted by DanielS on Mon, 05 Oct 2020 07:47 | # It’s good that you see the divide and conquer upshot of Hitler/Nazism, whether it be as a result of true believers or of a Jewish strategy, but as to your hypothesis, as you indicate, not thoroughly considered yet. While there are some (((Nazis))), i.e., Jews promoting the angle for the sake of deflection if not divide and conquer, I would not put brackets around the term Nazi as it does go into the realm of conspiracy theory absurdity. I do believe that true believing Nazis are anti-Marxist and see it as a vehicle of Jewish antagonism to Aryans along with the way Hitler saw it, look upon it as unacceptable; no place for them in the lebensraum they hoped to establish in the fertile lands of Ukraine and in Russia, strategically up to the Urals. While there may have been some mirroring of Jewish ways in reaction and there was the transfer agreement, as a matter of practicality, look at what Hitler had to say about Zionism as a school for swindlers, a launching pad for their internationalist trade and you know that he wasn’t really ok with them being anywhere. I.e., theories that try to suggest that Hitler was ok with Jews, was collaborating with them, an agent doing their bidding, are a disservice. These are conspiracy theories associating and clouding opposition to his positions with ridiculous and inaccurate speculation. 10
Posted by DanielS on Tue, 06 Oct 2020 04:20 | # “White supremacism” is primarily a tag that I should have said, that “elitist, anti-ethnonationalist/anti-racists apply mainly to middle and working class Whites” rather than accidentally using the word “elites” so as not to provide even the flimsy opportunity/excuse (all he needs) for GW to try to say that I was advocating divisive class warfare within nations, which I never have done. I’ve always been keen to represent the class as the whole nation (species) and whole race (genus) 11
Posted by Nikolai Sergei Karkaroff on Sat, 10 Oct 2020 05:54 | # Well, you are right that portraying Hitler/Nazis as Jews themselves harms WN. Hitler wrote in his memoirs about being “interested in the Communist experiment”. Hitler was more than willing to ally with the Soviet Union (and non-white nations such as Japan, Turkey, Persia, and Iraq) to defeat the UK, US, and independent Slavs. Hitler had some “squadrons” (for lack of a better term-I have a source on this) of Jews actually put Slavic peoples in concentration camps. Therefore, from these three lines of evidence, albeit it would be absurd to say that Hitler was Judeophilic, pro-Marxist, or Zionist, he was not as, in reality, anti-Semitic or anti-communist as he is presented as. Obviously, I don’t intend to say that he was working with Jewish elites to attack WN, but that he wasn’t as anti-Marxist as Neo-Nazis and Marxists present him as, nor was he as personally anti-Semitic as Neo-Nazis and ignorant alt-righters portray him as. 12
Posted by Hossbach Memorandum on Wed, 14 Oct 2020 19:44 | # The Hossbach Memorandum PROVES Hitler Wanted to Wage a War of Aggression 13
Posted by BannedHipster on Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:27 | # @GuessedWorker “three generations of German-American WNs” The most hostile aren’t even German-Americans. The worst appear to be “Italian-Americans” - meaning, basically, someone with one Italian grandfather, who can’t speak Italian, who has never been to Italy, and is actually just a white American. But it gives them a bit of “victim credibility” to pretend that “the WASPs” discriminated against their grandfather or that the mean Protestant kids called them “Papist” on their way to school. If that narrative sounds familiar, it is because it is the Jewish “‘immigrant victim” narrative, endlessly promoted on “Alt Right” sites by white Americans pretending to be “Italians” or fans of Mussolini. It’s pure online LARPing, of course. The purpose of this culture is to attack the founding people of the United States - the two enemy groups being the “Scots-Irish” and the second related group being “WASP’s” both Northern and Southern. Basically, the people that were called “non-hyphenated Americans.” I fully agree with the thrust of this post, certainly, “right-wing” nonsense is meant to keep white Americans constantly divided and reacting against “the liberals” and demonizing “socialism” and white solidarity. It’s an amazingly effective system. 14
Posted by Liberals on Tue, 20 Oct 2020 14:34 | # While obviously chief among them, Jews are not the only antagonists to our borders and boundaries. “Liberalism” is the property of opening borders and boundaries and so it is valid to label that a rubric of antagonism that can be wielded by Jews or non-Jews against Whites. It is true that “liberalism” can be used as a term to obfuscate antagonism that is Jewish in its source, but I don’t want to be heard as agreeing with you as if “liberalism” is strictly a dodge of naming culpability. Actually, liberalism of our borders and bounds is exactly the action that our antagonists are wielding against us (even if people are too timid or dishonest to name the YKW when they are the particular liberalizing agent) Even when people go along with the marketing campaign to blame “the left” as the pervasive bogey nowadays, it is “the left” of others, wielded to liberalize our borders and boundaries, i.e. people wielding liberalism against us… certainly not a left operating in the interest of our borders and bounds. Post a comment:
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Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:15 | #
There have now been three generations of German-American WNs suffering a post-1945 existential humiliation. This demographic is not going to cease tending to its wound. Tending has become an identity in itself, as it did with Jews millenia ago, and it is with blacks over slavery today.