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Thread Wars Further to Lurker’s suggestion, I am opening this thread as a permanent resource for MR readers to use when they are active on an MSM or blog thread, and think others might be interested in weighing in. It would be useful for a little context to accompany the URL, and the odd report of scalps taken would also be very welcome. In due course, the link to the thread will be placed on the side-bar under “Of note”. So ... here goes. Comments:2
Posted by Woodshed (that's damn straight) on Thu, 17 Feb 2011 07:35 | # More:
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Posted by Leon Haller on Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:51 | # Unz is nothing special. I got into a long argument with him about the Federal Reserve back in ‘98. He was very uninformed on the subject. Worse, even after I patiently explained what was wrong, from a conservative perspective, with a government monopoly of money production, he still failed to grasp the significance of my argument. Frankly, I thought him kind of stupid (though I understand he possesses considerable scientific prowess). 4
Posted by Herd 'em to The Hague on Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:50 | # The fact from us they’d most like to hide. 5
Posted by Frank on Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:27 | # Leon, many of the dummies of the “New Right” seem to be well trained in some field other than political science. All they gain from it is an ego that prevents them from developing within political science. 6
Posted by PF on Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:05 | # Oh my goodness, this woodshed stuff is cool! “Welcome to the woodshed, m*therf*cker.” *looks around at contents of shed* PF: “Goddamn, man, its woody in here.” I’d give three dollars to hear uh’s reaction to this new moniker. Speaking of which, does anyone know if uh has his own blog? 7
Posted by danielj on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:12 | # Speaking of which, does anyone know if uh has his own blog? He is waiting for me to start blogging in earnest which I will do come July. 8
Posted by PF on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:30 | # danielj
awesome. how’d you hook up with him? I didnt see you guys as being in cahoots. 9
Posted by danielj on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:40 | # I was half joking. Gotta go. Lucero at the Echoplex tonight if anybody in SoCal wants to meet up! 10
Posted by Drifter on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:55 | # New Right, Traditionalist, Conservationist and Integralist News welcomes participating contributors.
and growing 11
Posted by ScotchFiend on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:43 | # Leon Haller: Frankly, I thought him kind of stupid (though I understand he possesses considerable scientific prowess). Especially when dealing with the tribe, consider the possibility that such draining naivete and apparent slowness is just a strategy to cover for their obvious strategic interests without admitting such awareness. Be alert for patterns of disinformation, disruption, distraction and demoralization. 12
Posted by Lurker on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:33 | # Scotchfiend - good to see you back in action. I thought you had dropped out of sight. 13
Posted by ScotchFiend on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:22 | # Thanks Lurker. I’m glad to be back. Hopefully I can make some decent little contributions to help save our people. 14
Posted by Leon Haller on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:09 | # Especially when dealing with the tribe, consider the possibility that such draining naivete and apparent slowness is just a strategy to cover for their obvious strategic interests without admitting such awareness. Be alert for patterns of disinformation, disruption, distraction and demoralization. (Scotchfiend)
The more plausible explanations are 1) I did a poor job presenting the case against central banking, or 2) Unz may not be so bright outside his scientific speciality. His notorious cover story in The American Conservative exonerating Hispanic immigrants from American belief in their criminal proclivities was riddled with intellectual/logical and even factual errors - though perhaps in that instance he was following an ulterior strategy of duplicity. 15
Posted by Sam Davidson on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:25 | # Leon, Ron Unz was also very strongly against Proposition 187 that would have barred illegal aliens from abusing public services in California. 16
Posted by Captainchaos on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:20 | # I’m the best bar none. Never send an Englishman to do a Kraut’s job. 18
Posted by Frank on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:08 | # Hey, I sounded the alert when Unz was first taking over AmCon Mag. Brits (I’m as much a Brit as you are a Kraut - you American half-breed!) just don’t have a need to brag about it. 19
Posted by Frank on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:21 | # If it’s not obvious, I’m joking. It’s interesting though reading A.K. Chesterton btw. For him, as with so many Brits, WWII was fought in defence of British genetics and culture. Since we’re all being manipulated into a white mass, before being manipulated into a global mass; white nationalism is overtaking British nationalism, especially in America. And white nationalism usually sides with the Krauts, even though the Americans of course took the opposite. I wonder though if A.K. etc. don’t have a case… It might have simply been meant as the intent of average Brits serving in WWII was defence. I’m still reading - maybe I’ll stumble upon the answer. A.K. appears to be a forgotten great, not that I’m necessarily of his view. 20
Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:53 | # If it’s not obvious, CC is joking. Aren’t you, CC? 21
Posted by Hamish on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:20 | # Since we’re all being manipulated into a white mass… I think that’s more something which is just happening naturally. To the extent that it has to do with anyone being manipulated, it’s a question of English identity having being made more taboo than other forms of European-American identity. This made it harder for the English descended Americans to “pull seniority” on the Euro immigrants who came to the country the English created more or less on their own (at least in the earlier years). But barring the English having an identity which excludes non-English, and considering that all the Euro groups ended up being broken on the wheel of assimulation to an Anglo derived culture, the creation of a “white mass” became inevitable. white nationalism is overtaking British nationalism, especially in America. That’s true enough, though to be honest even white nationalism hasn’t become very popular yet. And white nationalism usually sides with the Krauts, even though the Americans of course took the opposite. It isn’t good PR, but you’re right that they do it anyway. Probably has something to do with all the Krauts and Italians like CC and Danielj being bigger loudmouths than the English descended white nationalists ae. 22
Posted by Hamish on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:31 | # And besides all the Germans and Italians in American WN, there’s the issue that American WNs have a hard on for hating Jews (not without reason, mind you). Going on and on about how they love Hitler is probably something they’re attracted to partly as a way to try and piss off the Hebes. 23
Posted by Captainchaos on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:28 | # Calm down, Frank. What are you really asking me? Do I think Germans are genetically superior to the English in all or most of the ways the English would consider themselves superior to x group? Yes. Germans are half a standard deviation more intelligent on average than the English, for instance. As such, do I think Germans are collectively accordingly entitled to a high opinion of themselves? Yes. Do I think the English and Germans are both Northern European peoples? Yes, it’s just that Germans are the best of the Northern European peoples. The proper perspective then, is to be glad you have Krauts on your side, and not to lament being objectively second fiddle. 24
Posted by Desmond Jones on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:43 | # Yes, but the collective, the masses produce nothing. It is from the individual that everything arises. And as the dear Captain has always asserted, the English are the superior individualist.
Guess who? 25
Posted by Hamish on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:28 | #
Not according to IQ and the Wealth of Nations they aren’t. Germany (united) = 102 IQ United Kingdom = 100 IQ Two IQ points isn’t even close to being half a standard deviation. 26
Posted by Frank on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:28 | # CC, “Do I think Germans are genetically superior” Lol, now I didn’t ask for all that. - Hamish, “I think that’s more something which is just happening naturally.” it’s due to mass immigration. So many arrive that eventually we all group roughly around race. “It isn’t good PR, but you’re right that they do it anyway. “ It bothers me that objectively the Germans might have been the better side - “only just war is a war of defence”. Millions died in that war, and our decline really took off afterwards - possibly because America came to power. My only defence is Americans were inclined to favour the Brits by blood, and the South did try to secede from this unholy empire, though today it votes as manipulated… Some say Hitler wanted to invade Britain though, even before being attacked. 27
Posted by Frank on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:31 | # Partly why the Brits are so stupid is colonialism, right? All the best came to the Carolinas where they bred a superior race of supermen, at least that’s what experts says. 28
Posted by danielj on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:39 | # Probably has something to do with all the Krauts and Italians like CC and Danielj being bigger loudmouths than the English descended white nationalists ae. I’m not an Italian. Siding with the Krauts on the issue of WWII (with my advantage of hindsight) does not mean that I pick one peoples over the other. I’ve a pan-European vision. Neither have I been particularly loudmouthed about that particular issue. 29
Posted by danielj on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:42 | # And white nationalism usually sides with the Krauts, even though the Americans of course took the opposite. White Nationalists should stop fighting the war. It’s over. No more “taking sides” in the present tense. 30
Posted by Desmond Jones on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:58 | # “Damn the Dutch” for siding with them Negros rather some fine Southern gentlemen from Missouri. 31
Posted by Woodshed on Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:03 | # From the lulz file of British nutionalism:
http://www.thebritishresistance.co.uk/the-editor/432-lee-john-barnes-with-egg-all-over-his-face 32
Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:57 | # CC, It’s just the chaos which is political nationalism in Britain today. Eddy Butler’s blog: http://eddybutler.blogspot.com/ ... is the best place to follow the story. Scroll down a posts and back one week. You’ll get the idea. 33
Posted by Playing Dumb on Sun, 20 Feb 2011 04:46 | # Scotchfiend: “Especially when dealing with the tribe, consider the possibility that such draining naivete and apparent slowness is just a strategy to cover for their obvious strategic interests without admitting such awareness. “ This is most definitely the case. I have had candid conversation with many Jews, and each has “played dumb” when subjects implicating Jewish malevolence are broached. These were all highly intelligent Jews who suddenly couldn’t grasp basic concepts only when these concepts implicated Jewish malevolence. It is most definitely a strategic means of duck-and-weave. 35
Posted by Foundation on Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:02 | # GW, your comment on the article by Ms Birbalsingh contained the following line: ‘Considerations of our survival, our English life, trump all other considerations. Even compassion for the suffering, even Christian morality. Life is everything, and without it is nothing.’ We (ethno-nationalists) call this ‘pushing the nuclear button’. If we find ourselves being haranged by diversity freaks we quietly inform them that we wish to survive as a unique people of this world, and furthermore that will be our conditions for war, should they persist in trying to change us. Powerful word survival, Ray Mears says it all the time. p.s. still no reply from the teacher turned politician. 36
Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:18 | # But they disappeared a comment I made about Rushton’s theory. I’ve just put it back. I think we’ve got one or two MRers on the thread handing back arses on plates. On Daniel Hannon’s fifth birthday thread he reveals that his posts attract between 100,000 and 140,000 readers (meaning unique ISPs) a week. That’s an acceptable return, I would say, on the effort involved from our point of view. 39
Posted by Lurker on Mon, 21 Feb 2011 06:47 | # Thankyou sir! Woke up and was drawn back for another bash at them. 40
Posted by John on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:00 | # “Cotewood”: your contribution is requested, http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/the-lay-scientist/2011/feb/13/3 41
Posted by John on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:03 | # Oops, sorry, I just see now the comments are closed. 42
Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:57 | # Thanks, John. Interesting thread. I will check it tomorrow to see if it reopens. 43
Posted by Leon Haller on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:46 | # I submitted this comment at the ‘conservative’ British publication Standpoint. It was apropos an article about the disaster of modern multicultural Birmingham. I wonder if the moderator will be post it there. (I hope everyone commenting at least in British publications references majorityrights.com.) Why should the native people be made to feel like strangers in their own lands? Britain is under demographic siege through a combination of domestic treason (listening Blair, Brown?), and endless Third World population growth-generated immigration pressure. A nation is a blood and soil entity. It is organic, biological, not artificially constructed (this includes even the US). Britain is a white Christian society. Muslims and other nonwhites do not belong on British soil, and their very presence constitutes a perpetual threat to the daily well-being of the British, as well as the very survival of Britain in the future. They must, all of them, be repatriated out of the country. For honest and intelligent discussion of the catastrophe that the political refusal to recognize racial and cultural reality has brought to Britain, check out majorityrights.com. 44
Posted by Frank on Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:42 | # Fears of immigration highest among UK teenagers and young adults
I’m trying to locate the actual poll itself atm… 45
Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:33 | # Not a new thread. But the usual suspects keep popping up to take a pop at the goyim: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/8363371/How-anti-semitism-entered-the-zeitgeist.html#dsq-content 46
Posted by Armor on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:01 | # Do the usual suspects acknowledge that there is such a thing as anti-Goyism? 47
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 00:18 | # Not that I have ever seen. Well, maybe a few saints and fair men. But the rest, certainly not. The thread, which began as the usual assault on the criminally-natured goyim, has been successfully centred on the question of Jewish honesty. It’s a pretty good example of how to take control of a little qwark of discourse. But I don’t know why the mods haven’t tried much harder to stop it. 48
Posted by Lurker on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 03:26 | # There are some sound characters there. Bellator and Abigail for example - from here perhaps? 50
Posted by Lurker on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 05:28 | # Ive now spent a obscene amount of time on that thread. Phew! 51
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 13:00 | # Well done. Finally, the mods have acted to defend the injured sensibilities of the Jewish aggressors. Your commentary appears to be in tact. But every single cotewood comment on that thread has been lifted overnight. Not that it matters now, since the great bulk of readers visiting it have come and gone. I can’t post there, though other threads remain open, so I assume the thread has been locked to Mr Cotewood. Sonofodin is our friend Lee. I don’t know about the others. CFE (Cheshire Forever) may have been active under another guise. The war goes on. 52
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 13:16 | # This from Britlurker:
... received no reply. The liars can’t reply. They have the power to manipulate the moderation. But they don’t have the power to convince. 53
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 13:22 | # And this ...
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Posted by Jimmy Marr on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:10 | # Very smart and gritty work at the Telegraph. Thank you very much. I learned a lot from watching. 56
Posted by Captainchaos on Tue, 08 Mar 2011 08:52 | # I attempted to post the following comment at Mangan’s:
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Posted by Lurker on Wed, 09 Mar 2011 03:39 | # Ive found myself back on that thread, it does seem to be active even now. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/8363371/How-anti-semitism-entered-the-zeitgeist.html 58
Posted by Matra on Wed, 09 Mar 2011 07:01 | # Is that the same David Baddiel who use to clown around after World Cup/Euro matches on ITV? 59
Posted by Lurker on Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:26 | # Matra - yes, it is. Against stereotype, in his comedy partnership with the non-jewish (and much older) Frank Skinner, Baddiel is the very much less funny, less verbally agile half. 61
Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:10 | # And that thread has been disappeared. Possibly because there was some discussion about matters Judaic. Possibly because it was never very wise to invite the reader to comment on matters sub-judice. 62
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:01 | # More outrageous and completely unacceptable subversion of the tribe’s narratives. 63
Posted by Jimmy Marr on Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:40 | # http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/mar/09/announcement-expected-break-through-mlk-bomb-probe/ 64
Posted by skeptic on Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:06 | # The commenter delivering the guilty verdict, while denouncing a particular wish list of things to denounce (anti-semitism, 9/11 truth), is posing as a young White wrestler. Yeah, right. I think Potok slipped up a bit when he referred to people who aren’t black but dutifully worship MLK as “sympathizers”. That term, in current American parlance, has moderate to strong negative overtones… 65
Posted by Lurker on Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:13 | # You mean the guy called ‘Loudin’? What a repellent piece of crap he is. 66
Posted by skeptic on Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:11 | # Yeah Lurker, Loudin’s who I was referring to. It seems obvious to me that he’s false-flag trolling (mobying). They really live by that tactic; it boggles the mind. 67
Posted by Lurker on Fri, 01 Apr 2011 03:56 | # Nice thread developing here at The Daily Telegraph: I see GW is active there and a few - several - other righteous individuals. The usual suspects are very much on the backfoot! Some great stuff on there. At the very least drop in and recommend comments by our guys, help to make the race replacers feel (more) unloved and unpopular. 68
Posted by Matra on Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:36 | # I see the libertarians at Samizdata have got much stricter. I responded to Paul Marks’ critical remark that “most neo-cons seem to believe that all cultures are fundamentally the same” by noting that libertarians are the same and that they accuse those who disagree of racism. That’s it. It was a short two sentence one and a half line reply without any derogatory language about other cultures yet it didn’t make it past moderation. A few years ago when I read the blog regularly such a reply would’ve made it online with some back and forth between the regular posters with usually one or two mavericks showing the believers that their theories might not work in the real world. Now the champions of the individual are so lacking in confidence they no longer wish to discuss such matters. 69
Posted by Lurker on Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:06 | # The Huffington Post has now expanded to the UK. I’ve only made one or two comments there but its a target rich environment! 70
Posted by Lurker on Sun, 28 Aug 2011 02:38 | # Another target rich Telegraph thread: Witnessing the live birth of gangland
And please, if you are involved in a similar thread anywhere, post it here. 72
Posted by Lurker on Thu, 08 Sep 2011 04:41 | # Telegraph again, of interest to our American comrades: A Mexican death cult is fuelling America’s anti-immigration backlash. This is about crime, not race In other words its about race. 73
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:18 | # Lee Barnes is on that one, and I’ve just thrown in a small hand-grenade designed to open up the question of a white ethnostate. 74
Posted by Bill on Thu, 08 Sep 2011 11:51 | # From the Daniel Hannan blog. 8.09.2011 Free speech is in retreat throughout the West Thrasos The West has developed a death wish. It will bend over backwards to accommodate the views foibles of any minority (particularly if that minority is anti-West, anti-family, or anti-Christian). It is supporting and promoting the growth of an ineducable and unemployable home-grown underclass, a group who without public welfare would never survive, and then to crown it all, opens its doors to immigrants who refuse to assimilate and demand recognition and support for their own benighted cultures. We’re doomed (but why are our politicians, of all parties, so keen to bring this catastrophe about?). My emphasis. I don’t often see this question asked. Is it a genuine question by Trasos or is he trying to tease commenter’s into enlarging the debate? I note nobody stepped up to the plate to reply, (they barely ever do) presumably guessing DT moderators would bin it anyway. I get the impression that there are a few knowledgeable posters out there who are promptly ambushed by the trolls, but most of the comments display a lack of nous as to what it’s all about. The thing is the knowledgeable comments do not seem garner much support other than from their fellow travellers. Alerting public opinion in this rigged domain is damned hard work - for what seems such little reward. What a joke! Coming from the media. Free speech is in retreat throughout the West. 76
Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 17 Sep 2011 01:19 | # 1050 comments on that one, Lurker. They were flying in so fast it was impossible to keep track of conversations. The real fog-maker, though, is the appearance of anti-racist trolls who seem to arrive together and throw in dozens of short, abusive comments - spanners in the works. These guys never debate or reply thoughtfully top questions. They are there to disrupt. They do, though, offer an opportunity to demonstrate the intellectual bankruptcy of their creed. 77
Posted by Lurker on Sat, 17 Sep 2011 04:21 | # I just popped into for a look, its become unwieldy! Ive done a spot of upvoting for our guys. 78
Posted by Lurker on Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:51 | # Yet more juicy stuff at the Daily Telegraph: Is the EDL the new voice of the white working class? Are there really no other sites in the world that have this many target rich environments, other than the DT? I find that hard to believe. 79
Posted by danielj on Sat, 12 Nov 2011 05:54 | # Please come and see if we can crank up the cognitive dissonance to unbearable levels at the Huff-Po! All the liberals over there all of sudden think that rape is funny when it is a racist white man on the receiving end. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/10/edgar-j-steele-sentenced_n_1086084.html 80
Posted by Lurker on Tue, 06 Dec 2011 11:07 | # Jewish pianist takes the piss out of nationalism: Here. Post a comment:
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Posted by Woody on Thu, 17 Feb 2011 06:26 | #
Comment directed to Ron Unz by The Captain at Mangan’s: