Posted by Geoff Beck on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:41 | #

Don’t miss this one.

Posted by Svigor on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:07 | #

I read a partial transcript - funny.

I notice two salient facts:

1. Google News shows zero, zilch, nada, in the American media about this.  Hmmm, a bit too close too the short and curlies?

For the idiots: consider whether the Rivers flap would garner ratings, and what would make “capitalists” forego ratings.

2. Jews have very few problems playing the racial game aggressively.  Mr. Howe might’ve had a better time of it if he’d known the difference between “white” and “jew.”

Posted by AD on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:34 | #

It’s like Willian Pierce wrote a nasty ethnic-stereotype radio play and they broadcast it on the BBC.

Posted by Enquino on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:52 | #

Yes, let’s continue about this wonderful father who left his three children.
—Joan Rivers

It’s worse than that. Darcus fathered seven children by four different women, and didn’t stick around to raise any of them.

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1592362,00.html

Here’s the best part of the article:

“I think a father should be there to watch a child grow up,” he says earnestly. “That’s what being a father is.” But then he adds, “But I don’t think he actually has to be there.”

Does that make sense?

Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:04 | #

I think it makes perfect sense in tribal Africa.  There, children grow up fast in the extended family of the tribe.  Fathers are absent, insomuch as they are not tied all their lives to one woman.  But they are present insomuch as the village is not too large and everybody’s pretty much around.

In a Western urban setting the subtle local ties that produced what fathering children need in tribal Africa are replaced by anonimity and social confusion.  Sociobiology trumps material ambition, of course, so only ill follows.

Black people are not naturally equipped for Western life and cannot quite be squeezed into its civil corset.  From that much social pathology and inter-racial strife follows.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:31 | #

“Black people are not naturally equipped for Western life and cannot quite be squeezed into its civil corset.  From that much social pathology and inter-racial strife follows.”  (—GW)

I would say (admittedly with great trepidation given Welleran’s extremely powerful, almost incontrovertible arguments to the contrary in another thread) that this is indisputable.  What causes the problem is the large numbers of them in white society.  If the numbers are kept appropriately small there’s less of a problem.  This of course has implications for immigration both legal and illegal which politicians refuse to face.  (Gee ... I surely hope Welleran doesn’t come along and attack me here with his great wisdom—my whole argument will fall apart instantly ...)

Posted by Pericles on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:33 | #

Mark Mardell has an article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4358046.stm in which he describes his take on life in Finland. It is what is written in the the comments section that is pertinent. An example, “As an expat Brit living and working in Finland I can concur that the experience of Mr Mardell with his camera case is the norm, not an exception. Many ex-pats have similar stories. Wallets left on top of petrol pumps, credit cards left at check outs… Why? Education is the top priority demand of all Finns. In the 1980s and 1990s they wanted to have the best and they got it.

Now they want their kids to have even better. They are so self critical that it is almost a mania. The main debate in the media recently is again education: “We have got the kids well-educated in the 3 Rs, and they understand right and wrong, so they are honest, but, are we doing enough to teach them how to respect other races and religions? If so why are we not being more welcoming to Immigrants?”
Peter , Vantaa Finland

The answer to that question is, maybe the younger Finns are aware that their racial identity is the key to their success, although it possibly takes an Italian to state the obvious:
“The Finnish model can work anywhere there is ethnic homogeneity, a willingness to work and a sense of trust and community. Anything that undoes the first and, or, second point undoes the third and the model falls apart. I don’t believe it’s “country-based” but community-based - so that town A can fail where town B, just 20km away succeeds. A common sense of purpose and direction of the community is the key to the model.”
Paul, Roma, Italia

Pericles

Posted by Geoff Beck on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:40 | #

My parents tell similar stories of leaving doors and windows unlocked, this in the America of the 1950s and before.

Though, in that time, higher education was restricted to an elite class of Whites and for most of the White population higher education was not a critical goal. Though, I am not aware of anyone complaining about that, except of course for Jews.

Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:09 | #

To return to the subject of black sociobiology, it seems to me that it should be the desire and task of the black intellectual class to theorise the creation of a society (in Africa) for which blacks are properly equipped, and in which their biological nature can find a healthy expression.  This will certainly require the setting of a societal good more appropriate than Western material progress, the winning and maintenance of which has by no means been demonstrated as within the bounds of black capabilities.

Such an endeavour is a concern for whites only in so much as the health of our societies flow from their reflecting our sociobiology too - and that means retaking sole possession of our homelands.  So yes, black societal-building is a concern of whites, but not our responsibility.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:20 | #

“that means retaking sole possession of our homelands”  (—GW, just above)

Amen. 

“yes, black societal-building is a concern of whites, but not our responsibility.”

And amen.