Self Assertion vs Self Transcendence of European People’s Defense

Posted by DanielS on Monday, 20 October 2014 06:53.

With appreciation of Dr. Lister’s recent participation, an abstract distinction re-emerges not only as potentially useful to the struggle in general, but also in explaining what may otherwise be apprehended by Dr. Lister as some of my brute efforts here at MR.

A light-bulb moment in formulating my racial activism occurred when I read a distinction which Hegel made use of, viz., that of “self transcendence vs. self assertion.”

I later came to understand that that distinction goes farther back than Hegel and tracing its history may or may not have bearing. But what does have bearing is its teasing-apart now. By its application I am not so literal minded as to limit transcendence and assertion to the self in individual interests only but rather see it as largely a matter of self assertion of one’s borrowings from the group’s genetic capacities and interests and self transcendence on behalf of, and in payment of, the group’s genetic capacities and interests for its assertion – or, crucially and mistakenly the pragmatic activist would argue, a self transcendence beyond the group’s interests. To an extent that would often be understood correctly as a mistake of European obsequiousness, whether through Nordic individualism, objectivism, Christianity, etc. or, of course, by Jewish coercion. This was one of the first, clarifying applications for me in making sense of my experience. That for whatever reason, European men were too self transcendent and needed more self assertion.

Around the same time I realized that intellectualism should not be a bad term - rather it makes use of the extant body of literature, conceptual structures and our inherited mental abilities, applying them to organize and make sense of our experience.

The frequent charge of the boring, disingenuous and ill-willed (most recently, by TD at Daily Stormer, who tried to say that I was an “intellectual wannabe” and also tried to say that I was against National Socialism – again, missing the point, deliberately in all likelihood, in claiming those terms only apply to Hitler’s regime’s distortions thereof) is “pseudo-intellectualism.”

Kievsky echoed my sentiments exactly when he made the astute observation that our enemies have weaponized the meme of “intellectualism as unmanly” among European men. My father and older brother ate that up and modeled it perfectly for me, i.e, what brute pragmatism was, making it didactic in fact, closing off other routes by their capacity to get on without conveying articulation of much broad, social sense; to where I had no choice but to take the (daunting) intellectual route as far as I could and as its utility would allow in order to extricate myself from the arbitrary confusion that is the upshot of “no-nonsense” - by which they meant, intellectual structures which served a semi-transcendent purpose of orientation, organizing and making coherent sense of self in relation to the world; or any girlish motivation to even broach such a topic. That was “nonsense” or what others would call “pseudo-intellectualism.”

What I would call the more speculative side of the hermeneutic circle.

Because my need for intellectualism was real, not a garish display, I had to keep my eye on its life-line: There is a difference between superfluous display of erudition, an obnoxious critical parsing or an honest effort to get things done - an effort which may in fact, be served by some “intellectual” abstraction or another merged with consensus and utility. I may not be the world’s most confident person and I am certainly not claiming to be among the smartest, but what I will claim in confidence is that I keep an eye on relevance; with that, whatever “intellectualism” I deploy is not for the purpose of impressing people, but for its utility in relevant aims. Anyway, if a man is not dealing with reality, then reality will take care of it, yes?

I decided that I would strive after a good balance and blend to incorporate intellectual structures where useful with assertion of self and White group interests against non-White antagonism and liberal uncaring.

My effort to blend these two things may explain why I might seem contradictory and confusing to people, but I am really not. What I am doing is the hermeneutic circle, an engaged process of critique and inquiry, which moves from more speculative attempts at comprehending group patterns – such as self transcendence and self assertion - and closer readings, such as those of genetic compatibility.

Those of bad-will, will attempt to seize upon the more speculative moments to charge me with pseudo-intellectualism, trying to seem smart, using intellectual terms and concepts for the sake of using them, not for a purpose of defending our people. Of course, that’s not true; but our enemies are our enemies, the assholes among us are assholes (such as TD).

On the other hand, I, we, go to the assertive side of the hermeneutic circle for its sundry utility: testing the speculative side’s truthfulness against the concrete moment, deploying it for the sake of getting something done (e.g., posting a guy with a sign to make it clear that Europeans with sense should agree that “with Jews we lose” - and if that does not inspire the confidence and conviction of confirming what one already knows, should cause them to verify the assertion); in short, the hermeneutic process is to manage the orientative process in relation to reality. But it is a process which requires the speculative, broader temporal and historical comprehension of the pattern as well, particularly to maintain systemic group coherence and accountability.

That is probably why our enemies are so keen for us to not have the “pseudo-intellectualism” to maintain our group orientation.

Ok, Dr. Lister may appreciate that. And for sure, I would like to have an “adult” conversation with mature and scholarly individuals such as him contributing to MR.

But when the word “adult” is used in this context, my antenna goes up that we may get fixed on one end of what should be a corrective back and forth process. The end that I am talking about not wanting to get stuck on, of course, is the self transcendent end, the one that does not test itself and assert itself against reality quite enough if it does not circle back to self assertion.

It is also a matter of assertion of the empirical end, testing and verification, so it is not, as GW might fear, a call to mere practical action.

But again, my initial critical perspective on European peoples, that they/we were having these problems (I am going back to an observation from the mid 80’s now), held that is because they/we were too self transcendent. They needed to incorporate more self assertion in terms of their group interests in particular. Now, that is not a contradiction if you recognize that the self is composed of historical/social inheritance – to be marshaled in a new and novel way, displaying agency and difference hopefully, but nevertheless.

A stark contrast illustrating this was that of blacks in their hyper-assertiveness of self and group interests as opposed to Whites in their exasperating self transcendence – imagine a White guy with a high voice saying to a nigger, “kill as many Whites as you want, take my woman and our girls for sex slaves and fuck me in the ass too!”

White men of normal instinct will not “intellectualize” and try to explain White obsequiousness away. A solid intellectual will not view this predicament as an intelligent response from Whites. But a lot of White guys will try to seem smart, tough, “above it” by “explaining” it away, and gain approval from a lot of White females for doing that.

In fact, one of the benefits of intellectualism by contrast is that one can say upon erudition that, “I am being an over-intellectualizing bag of books.”

One can do that in an instant whereas one cannot read and digest a hundred good books in an instant. Moreover, as Aristotle so correctly stated, “it takes courage to study.” To put out of mind all else that one might attend to in order to cultivate rigorous and long-term views. In line with favoring rigor against arbitrary sensibility, Kant observed that it is easier to return to one’s senses than to restore a principle.

Even so, the nagging callings back, mockery from beautiful but tattood women whose pimps make fools of us in their own way, is a call to courage as well, to practical intelligence, not just imaginative, to implement, to apply our theories in reality.

People who have been ensconced among their fellow Europeans and not forced to interact with blacks en mass, for example, may not understand the importance of asserting the word “nigger.”

If you cannot assert the word nigger you can barely think it, you can barely defend yourself with the strong assertion of the pattern of blacks to be discriminated against for the testosterone and hyper-assertiveness of a people who can assert themselves in an episode – even having our women cooing despite their marked violence - to the detriment of course, of the broader pattern of Whites, where White men shine. But if we are too timid to assert the word and think its wrong to classify them pejoratively, what might our co-evolutionary young women think?

This is why I take a step back when Dr. Lister calls for an adult conversation. I worry that we are being called into the “universal maturity” which does not take into account our more protracted rate of sexual maturity and the black’s more direct route – and the fact that they and other non-Whites obey their own relative maturity, not universal maturity. Young White men in particular need this word “nigger” to signal that they know the pattern, that they know how to counter it, that they know how the Jews are deploying them against us, and that they don’t buy it for a moment. No intellectual noodling, no logical contortions* to excuse them for imposing upon us – they are niggers. Moreover, this is a warning to White women as well. There will be no excuses. If that is what you want, you will go and live with them and the consequences of their ways. We are not going to pay for your lack of judgment, your mulatto children, the abuse of our men, their sacrificial sublimation and ancient legacy. With that comes the liberating assertion (for White male being) that miscegenation is equivalent to rape.

All this implies judgment and taste, of course. One does not go around just using this word, but will use it where necessary and effective. For the sake of practicality, one does not treat White women who betray our legacy in the way that Sharia law might, but does take measures to separate from their influence and make them pay (by banishment and cutting them off from shared resources) for the consequences of their bad judgment. We do not pay the price, they do, but they deserve respect of a fair warning, and here it is – that’s a nigger and that’s what niggers do as a very predictable pattern. Nobody is worth putting-up with it.

Along with self transcendence seems to come a secondary sex characteristic of displaying excessive logical capacity. One way of expressing excessive logical capacity AND independence that may appeal to females as display of dominance and advanced ability is the logical excusing away of non-White affliction on Whites. Moreover, the dishonesty and disingenuousness in regard to one’s group interests by self transcendent liberalism, the willingness to put other Whites below and allow them to be extinguished by non-Whites will serve the short term interests of young females. They can identify who is “strong” and “logical” in being that treacherous and independent of group cooperation. More, liberalism, as I have often noted, increases the disorder by breaking group accountability and ecology in favor of individualism, which strengthens the one up position of young females in partner selection. Male and female becomes the chief conceptual organization as opposed to race. As it gives them short term benefits,  young females will encourage liberalism and be pandered to by non-Whites (Jews especially, of course) to allow liberal males through their gate-keeping.

By none of this do I mean to be cynical of intellectualism, adult conversations or the professional contributions of Dr. Lister. On the contrary, my hope is to explain my reasoning so that he and people he might value as professional colleagues can find a way to participate. I’m willing to forgo the spitballs and the high hard ones underneath the chin (e.g., we don’t need to say “nigger” here) in exchange for a modicum of understanding – I see true intellectualism as a process embracing self assertion of group interests as well as the maturity of self transcendence on behalf of group interests.

nabistalisman



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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:19 | #

Daniel,

To my mind, the first task that confronts anyone trying to think anew about the life and continuity of our race is to do the ontology, and arrive at a model of Man which is as faithful to the organic reality as possible.  Only then, with that phase complete, and the model in place, can one move foward to the next.  This, it seems to me, is not yet the stage of ends and means.  In any case, the emphasis on these ought to be unnecessary if the ontology has been done right, since the whole structure and development of the Idea will possess a certain dynamic quality, arising out of the dynamic of consciousness itself.

The logical extension of the ontology is into the primary human motivations, which are only two in number, and are freedom and love, both in relation to being.  These bridge the gap to the Hegelian pairing which interest you at this point.  Possibly there is some additional guiding detail to emerge from the intellectual process, and the final product might not end precisely where Hegel had it.  So, personally, I would council against rushing to the sharp end.  This sort of thing can’t be hurried.


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Posted by Graham_Lister on Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:48 | #

Perhaps the task is different - a wholly negative one in so far as to totally discredit and destroy the deflationary ‘flat’ liberal ontology of both the individual and the social? Not a minor task at all. A negative account of why unconstrained liberalism ultimately fails.

So we can say account X (liberal ontology) is wrong for reasons 1, 2, 3, and our alternative account Z is only a work in progress but it would differ in these important ways 4, 5, 6 etc., even if it’s not fully developed.

Let me tell you getting to grips with say the ontology of emergence is OK in the broad ‘macro’ picture but the fine details are very subtle and encompasses some very difficult material/concepts.

Perhaps ‘good enough’ politically and philosophically rather than perfection is a good basis to work on? An incomplete, but importantly working model, that captures some important features of the issues at hand that however isn’t the final word. I’m really not sure final words really exist within philosophical or political thought. It might be a fool’s errand to look for them for too long or too deeply.

After all no liberal could really give damn that, at base, their ontology is preposterous. It didn’t stop Locke, Hayek, Rawls et al.?


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Posted by Graham_Lister on Tue, 21 Oct 2014 01:01 | #

Just one thought - that liberal or modern approaches to ethics seem to be deeply flawed to say the least.

These concepts are of a great deal of importance in how people understand politics, morals and the ‘right thing do to’ etc. But much of the intellectual ground work or heavy lifting has already been done.

For example Alasdair MacIntyre has already gave the world a devasting critique of liberal ‘moral thought’ and a defence of an alternative - an Aristotelian derived form of virtue ethics (After Virtue). Which thankfully doesn’t need to be a theistic account.

Why reinvent the wheel, when non-liberal communitarianism just needs a little twist of the old implicit ethno into the mix?


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Posted by neil vodavzny on Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:24 | #

How you gonna get ethics without a root-&-branch change in lifestyle? Race is only part of the explosive cocktail. Humans are no longer responsible for their own wellbeing http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/laura-donnelly/11175697/Heart-attack-risks-rest-on-lifestyle-researchers-say.html

The slob era is on us. The idea of male and female is blurred. This relates to a piece I’m posting (or at least sending) referring to female tennis players. Just the fact that classical grace and sublime racket skills are a thing of the past, women being vastly more manlike (and ugly).

Ethics springs out of society, so one can say wouldn’t it be nice. Then comes the hard work of breeding in traits of behaviour, civilized manners etc. That actually isn’t a negative critique but something that gets results.


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Posted by David Dupe on Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:37 | #

David Duke is constantly defending blacks as if any serious person is recommending tactless behavior with regard to them - but it is he who is tactless, as he persists in soft peddling them to the unsuspecting as if any characterization of their pejorative patterns, their destructive effects on Whites could only be a Jewish divide and conquer strategy.

Ironically, Duke never says anything about the Nazi advocates smears of other European peoples.

He purports to be concerned for divide and conquer while at the same time he wants to say that you shouldn’t call a spade a spade (but rather stand for the Jewish misrepresentation of them as benign) because he wrongly assumes that recognition of a spade as a spade is an endorsement of counter productive violent acts.

We don’t want to be divided from blacks, we want to be together with them - just as the Jews would have it: thanks David Dupe.



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