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Some tips for thread warriors Since the BNP demise thread transmogrified into a thread warfare thread, I thought it might be helpful to augment previous advice on comment style and content with a few practical tips on staying alive in the thread war. Choosing your battleground Different media have widely differing accessibilities for nationalists and tolerances for nationalist opinion. We are, though, engaged in a war for control of the discourse, and that means finding the level of truth-speaking at which it is possible to participate. Pre-moderated media, such as the Daily Mail and the BBC, tend not only to exclude the possibility of an exchange of opinion, but weed out radically pro-white comment. These media have, in my view, to be addressed later, if and when the general discourse has been liberalised. The place to start is post-moderated sites on the political right, where the tenor of comment provides more cover. Post-moderated sites on the left, like CiF, New Statesman, and The Independent are good places to conduct raids but are not relevant to the campaign as such (though they have utility when the left is in power). The Daily Telegraph is clear favourite among the dailies in Britain. It has the advantage of separate DISQUS systems for the general comment and news system and for the blog system, so a user-name ban in one does not imply a user-name ban in the other (a full IP ban does, though). The DT website attracts as many unique IP visits in a day as MR does in a year, and is popular with UKIP members and other semi-aware conservatives, particularly those without much love for Islam. Rather oddly, over the last year or two the shift in what gets past the moderators has been very noticeable, but I’m not so sure about the opinions of the commentariat. Of the great numbers of those who read quietly and never leave a comment, we can know nothing, of course. Self-authoriality at last The choice of user-name is something else to ponder. It may not be a great idea to label yourself Blood Axe or Vengeance of the Reich. As it is, all the envelope-pushing in which you engage will provide the trigger-happy black Jewish transsexual moderator with quite enough excuse to ban you. There is no need for a flashing neon sign above the detonate button. So select a neutral user-name. For registration sites you will have to set up a mail account somewhere like Hotmail, and that tends to eliminate the most common name combinations. If you are blogging for the English cause, either choose a good Anglo-Saxon name or, if you want to draw your victims onto the hook, one that rhymes in an innocent-seeming way with any of the usual sin-words. Anti-racists find it extremely difficult to pass up the opportunity to label us, and are all perfectly oblivious to when the tables are about to be turned. You might consider developing a series of related user-names, so that some reader recognition can be built notwithstanding the moderator’s toll. But you will need to mix things up a bit with some unrelated user-names to confuse the moderator and make it more difficult for him to maintain a consistent banning methodology. This is very important, and probably explains, rather than the power of our argument, why the limits on our speech do indeed retreat. I don’t bother with avatars because I am banned too frequently (and most frequently for pointing out that homosexuals are not equal in Nature, and next for driving Jews nuts). But a distinct symbol beside your comments will certainly help the reader to pick them out from the crowd, and is probably worthwhile. Again, it might help if you don’t plump for the Das Reich motif. You will need more than one live identity. At any given time I have three running, sometimes two on the same thread. If one is banned mid-debate, the other can take over and complete the exercise. Be sure to maintain a note of all your IDs and their log-in details. Just browsing Your browsers are your friends, and you should download them all and press them into service in this war. That means, if you are using a Windows platform, downloading Mozilla, Chrome, Safari, and Opera. Early Maxthon versions had the facility to generate phantom IP addresses. But that seems to have gone missing on later versions. Maxthon, which is a derivative of IE, is still worth having, though, so add it to the list. The point here is that because they store cookies independently, all browsers enable you to establish different user-names from the same computer. Not all media sites and agents such as DISQUS primarily identify commenters by IP address. They tend to ban user-names, in which case the determinant for access is the cookie in your browser’s temp folder. You can run different user-names from the same computer until your IP address is finally banned (then see below). How to be read One way to be read and not be passed over, as I explained above, is to win a loyal following. If you are really intent on pushing the envelope that will necessitate a series of identifiably related user-names. The quality of your commentary has to justify the interest, of course. I have seen both on Facebook, when I used it to log-in as the original Piggott, and on DISQUS as philwicks, that people do follow higher quality commentary, and, on Facebook, do contact the commenter to ask questions. However, the surest way to be certain of being read is to post early on the thread, at least at sites like the DT with different ways to arrange the comments (newest, oldest, most recommended), and like CiF, which ranks from the oldest. Get in early on a topical thread - say in the first ten comments - and post a pithy, relevant and perhaps slightly rebarbative comment and you can see the recommends climb into the hundreds. I reckon you can safely multiple that by fifty to one hundred more to arrive at a ballpark number of actual readers. For the most part, of course, you will just be joining the crowd of later posters, most of whom attract no recommends at all. Go for the scatter-gun approach - four or five short comments at least, again rebarbative, all close to the tail of the thread. Some poor deluded soul will usually provide you with the opportunity to demonstrate the supremacy of your analysis. Remember that the later you join the thread the less it is necessary to post a comprehensive and definitive comment. As long as it attracts a challenge there will be plenty of opportunity to make your case. The privacy factor One of the media sites that pre-moderates is the AOL-owned Huffington Post. They require a registration, of course, and that process leads one directly to the following non-negotiable conditions:
These people want their pound of flesh, not too great a problem given that none of your actual details will be stored on-line for them to harvest. But they also hire out their page to an ugly group of IP address trackers, web bugs, and what-have-you to collate data about your web behaviour. There are over a thousand trackers out there, and while one or two - Disqus for instance - have to be accommodated in order to use their facility, the great majority are unwelcome to anyone in our line of work. Happily, there are applications which can block them all. I’ve tried two of these, and the better of them is Ghostery. One of its delights is that it pops up a purple panel on the top-right of the browser listing all the trackers present on a given page. As a nationalist, it is very interesting to see which website owners in our own sector - in political nationalism and WN - host trackers on their site. Try it. About your victim One’s preferred prey has to be the journalist of whatever article we are patronising. At the DT a fair few will venture onto the threads to defend their scribblings - Daniel Hannan, Ed West, and Dan Hodges, among them. Hodges is a Blairite who has provided some good sport - not that he actually argues his case with the commentariat. But on one occasion in mid-July he had a moment of madness and penned a piece titled “You want a serious debate about immigration? Let’s have one, then”. The comment at the top of that page is mine, taking Hodges at his word. On the live thread the comment immediately beneath it was his. It read “Bollocks”, before the moderator saved his blushes and deleted it. With a popular subject matter like that, I imagine eighty or ninety thousand readers must have perused Hodges’ piece (“Do people who claim to be concerned about immigration want a dialogue? Or do they just want to vent and rant? Because those of us who see the benefits are well up for that debate. And you know why? Because we’ll win it.”). Many must have observed his actual, execrable debating strength. It was gold. By and large, though, it is difficult to tempt journalists into a prolonged exchange. For opinionated, wordy sorts they are oddly shy with nationalists. Usually, therefore, the choice of opponent, where we get to choose, has to be drawn from the commentariat, and at the DT that means civicist conservatives, mainstream party activists employed to troll the threads, EU activists doing the same, ditto homosexual rights activists, ditto Hasbarim, the inevitable Jews by the bucket-load, anti-racists, non-white racists, and confused post-Christians who think it is somehow moral for the English to die for diversity. They are all grist to our mill. They all enable us to frame our arguments effectively. They are all unable to answer our questions. They are all excellent tools. Dealing with deletions Three iron rules: 1. Never accept moderation if the lost content was significant. 2. Maintain a note of all significant comments so that they can be re-posted after deletion. 3. Don’t re-post them in the exact same form or you will be at risk of a ban. Click on the reply button for the comment immediately above the deletion and describe the deleted post. Perhaps even speculate about why it was deleted. This works, and helps to push back the moderating boundaries. Dealing with IP bans If you push the envelope you will encounter a ban eventually, and serially so if you keep at it. The first step is to post a comment under a different user-name linked to another browser. If that is met by the same banning message, they may have given you an IP ban. At the DT I would now try posting on the other half of the site. The same result means that you have to do one of two things to continue posting using the same PC: 1. Change your IP address. You can force your router, if you use one, to acquire a new address, and that immediately circumvents the ban. For details google your router name + new IP address. But you will need to register a new user-name. 2. Use a proxy server like KProxy. It will cost a few dollars and can be a bit of a pain to set-up. But you will never be beaten by a ban again. That’s it. Have a good war. Comments:2
Posted by daniel on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 06:47 | # As I had not wanted to be redundant and become embroiled in Hesper’s long winded comments on the prior thread, I did not re-initiate some of my criticisms of the Nietzschean perspective that I’d made shortly before I was banned by counter currents. I gave him a “baloney” instead. However, as nationalists and persons concerned with White interests, I believe it is important to provide a manageable critique of Nietszche. A homo erotic Nietszche cult has sway over there at counter currents - not accidentally. I imagine gays would have similar predilections as puerile females. In my estimation, Nietzsche pandered to a young woman’s perspective. It is a perspective which devalues women and over values highly masculine, highly individualistic men, impervious to social and environmental issues; the over man ideal is toxic and neither accountable to the systemic relation of the White class from which it is created nor the optimal balance on which it depends as a part of biological systems. With the break down of classificatory bounds - particularly as Jewish interests have taken “civil individual rights” into reversal, going beyond their empirical foible (which was bad enough) to violate social (viz. White) classification, going beyond that by Jewish re-definition to violate any White freedom from association - a social disorder is created where young women re emerge more one up than ever, more pandered to from more angles than ever. In pandering to a puerile female point of view, it exacerbates the tendency of young girls to incite genetic competition; and accelerates the break down of racial classificatory bounds. Blacks being of a much older form, and having bio-power of a hyper masculine variety will opportunistically accrue unjust benefit as well. “Female” values of cooperation of kin and sensitivity are set aside; the sublimation of our men which increases the intelligence of our way of life and accountability to our developmental processes within the life span and in evolution are smashed aside as weak in this point of view. It is toxic and prone to systemic runaway; not what we need to provide incentive for participation in White defense, advance and to gain the loyalty of Whites. Augustinian devils, i.e. natural devils, and the devils of those who oppose us as White advocates will weed out the weak; and that will be tragic. But we do not need to help our enemies by truncating that process and by not valuing our view, as White men, toward our women and the qualities in them that we love and revere. Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth. Not Nietszche
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Posted by Leicester Piggy on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:10 | # As we all know, there is no right of free speech in the UK. 4
Posted by Bill on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:20 | # What will be considered victory in the context of this post, ie. DT threads? Is the narrative defined? Where does it begin and end? We live in the age of sound bites, the rabbit hole is too deep to explain at entry level. Race replacement and genocide are terms of common currency and as such, at this level, have reached their peak. You can’t get more explicit than that. Progress beyond our wildest dreams has been achieved in a relatively short time, I’m tempted to ask have we reached a glass ceiling? The end of the beginning. For beginners, race replacement and genocide should cut it for now, accepting the end of the beginning is where we are right now. The ‘J’ word. Like the loan ants appearing in my kitchen signals the summer invasion, The ‘J’ word can now be seen in the comments thread, and almost imperceptibly, like the loan summer ant, the main body is following. You know, I often wonder how much the journalist blog authors learn from the comments submitted, I wouldn’t mind wagering they (journalist) source a lot of their information from the bloggers themselves. Yesterday I came across a video featuring Nigel Farage in an interview with Alex Jones, I was mildly surprised. I was even more surprised, when I noted the interview was over 2 years old. I’m beginning to warm to Farage. What do you think? 6
Posted by uKn_Leo on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:23 | # @LP They’re watching us. Lets watch them. http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/theresa-mays-speech-the-five-big-lies/ “Politicians. Wouldn’t know the truth if it bit them on the arse…Why are they allowed to lie with impunity – is there no one who can call them to account ?...We all know it’s lies but what can we do to stop it ?” “I predict a fearful rise in corruption. It’s not unusual for young coppers to attend sudden deaths and find hundreds or thousands of pounds lying about a house, or spin drug dealers with huge wads of cash, or to get approached to sell PNC info. The temptation is going to be horrendous if the mortgage is overdue and the kids need feeding. I thought we had gone beyond this in 21st century Britain. Scary time ahead mate.” “Well I’ve had the ‘honour’ of policing the Conference in Birmingham this last few days. I have say, I’ve never seen so many officers at an event. It’s cost a fortune with hot meals 24/7, the hire of shiny new police vehicles, overtime- the list goes on. Officers are stood on static points outside the ICC and the hotel protecting these toffs. Most had no choice- they were told they were doing it. “Most officers will just stand back and watch when the riots happen again…and they will happen again.” “Still gobsmacked after hearing about the female Romanian gypsy thieves trick of shoving fingers in nether regions when caught, and then touching the arresting officers hands. Bingo! Sexual assault and the DNA to prove it…they should be deported along with their men and kids.. We have enough crap of our own as it is…clearly the type of immigrant we want to enrich us!” “There is a mighty crash coming down the lines and I really think that we are now beyond it being possible to stop. Its been coming a long time folks, I suggest you find some tin hats and something to defend yourselves with cos we will all be standing alone when it happens.” “You will all be storming Tesco`s along with the riffraff who you condemn, if the facts be faced.” “There is virtually no pro active work getting done, we just dont have enough front line staff. The criminals know this and are running riot, we have absolutely lost any illusion of control…from where I am standing, the service is all but dead, and the level of utter hate and contempt that the rapidly dropping front line, hold the Condems in, means there is zippo chance of any working relationship.” “I really do feel sorry for all my colleagues knowing that whatever Gvt is in, we were and will still be fed the same product by politicians and senior management.” “Just finished a 3 day stint (12 hour days!) as part of the massive protect the C*ntservative party conference (including making sure one of the chinless t*ssers could go for a posh lunch in peace without being bothered by all the people he has upset!) “Another big riot in London that attacks Millbank will show just how much officers care about protecting the Tories, I guess…a difficult choice. A bunch of over privileged, immoral, hateful yobs, intent on wrecking everything they see or anarchist, left wing violent thugs.” “The Russians,albanians,Colombians,triads,Bulgarians,even yes the yakuza unbelievably are flooding into “call me daves” criminal paradise,London of course being número UNO place to make ill gotten gains.” “It’s not just London. In my little part of the world we’ve got serious criminal gangs trafficking people and drugs, setting up prostitution and drug rings, committing massive fraud and very possibly getting away with murder. None of these things attract crime reports so senior officers don’t give a damn. PCs and Sergeants are too busy keeping up with the Facebook and stupid tit-for-tat Harassment reports to do anything. Most are Eastern European gangs who come to the UK, claim benefits, do as they please because we’re all one happy EU family. Those who aren’t EU have usually been given leave to remain, so we can’t get rid of any of them either. It amazes me that decent members of the public seem to be oblivious to it all, but then again, if it wasn’t for my work, I would be oblivious too.” “The mother of a victim who I dealt with recently, works for HMRC investigating Tax Credit fraud. She tells me they deal with loads, LOADS of people who bring families over from countries like Poland, register for a NI number, claim tax credits and then ship them back to Poland, continuing to claim the benefits. “Around my way they often don’t even bother bringing people over to the UK. They just send over birth certificates etc and fill in the forms, get a dodgy bank account and hey presto, the benefits start arriving. Tax Credits, Child Benefit, Housing Benefit et al. The scale of fraud is astonishing. Politicians must know this is going on but they do nothing.” “What a depressing s**t hole of a country we have become thanks to self serving stinking MPs!”
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Posted by daniels. on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:03 | # ... Not Nietzsche, ecce homo 8
Posted by We are the......UKIP Boosters! on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:23 | # The only credible strategy for British nationalism is boosting UKIP with the belief that this will force a realignment of the right of British politics, with the hope that the Tories will move into out and out outright anti-EUism and anti-immigrationism. 9
Posted by Leon Haller on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:38 | # uknleo@6 Tried to post the following at inspectorgadget, couldn’t get signed up for some reason (feel free anyone to copy and post there or anywhere else):
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Posted by A Bad Case of the DTs on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:18 | # Yes indeed. Little one-man bands of keyboard warriors punching into their machines day in day out that David Cameron is a c*nt, that the wogs need to be kicked out and Nigel Farage is a jolly good bloke WILL have an effect. 11
Posted by Silver on Sat, 13 Oct 2012 01:18 | #
Haller, you never have been able to control yourself, have you? Remember that story you told us about a drinking companion wanting to punch your head in for your broaching the subject of immigration in a way that infuriated him? Your exhortations don’t sound any better in print, pal. The funny thing is you’re aware of all this, aware of the need for incrementalism, yet…what takes place upstairs? Any two-bit punk is capable of spewing out the venom above. As far as I can tell its main effect is to strengthen the resolve of the liberal power structure. What good is that? So you registered your disapproval, bravo. Your courageous defiance is noted. But isn’t a little more than that required?
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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:59 | # I’m sure Jimmy Marr, et al, will feel the pipes in this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFi7bWkyRpA&feature=player_embedded Axes flash, broadsword swing, 13
Posted by Leon Haller on Sun, 14 Oct 2012 03:39 | #
It is actually quite important that the boundaries of ‘acceptable’ political rhetoric keep getting expanded. It is important for white preservationists to ‘vent’ as often as possible and as widely as possible. When I speak of incrementalist rhetoric and/or strategies I am referring to the political and intellectual classes. Politically, we must stop nonwhite immigration before we bother with anything else. This is so obvious that hordes of WNs fail to see it. Our physical dispossession is primarily a function of traitor-abetted mass colonization. I once had a multiculti traitor openly state this objective to me (long time ago - early 90s). He said his main political goal was to bring as many nonwhites into the US as possible. He didn’t care from where; Mexicans, blacks, Orientals - all the same and all good as far as he was concerned. When I asked him what inspired this treason, he gave me the typically insane white leftist spiel about how the USA could be a multicultural “model” for the planet, showing how all the peoples of the Earth could live harmoniously under one democratic government (and that the US was the place which would have the best chance of really becoming this First Universal Nation). Anyway, nationalists certainly need to be shrewd in hewing to Graham Lister’s refrain about our not raising too high the psychological costs of accepting our message. So, yes, politically what we need, and what I have long advocated, is a strategy of gradual radicalization; that is, we need to speak as sweetly as necessary to bring majorities around to accepting the basic sine qua non idea of ending nonwhite immigration. The unbridled idiocy that some WNs exhibit in thinking that we can challenge Zionist financial and media hegemony more easily than we can end mass immigration is matched only by their stupidity in seemingly actually believing that the former is of greater importance than the latter. I don’t want to destroy Jewish media control (but how? how?) only to find myself living as an oppressed white minority in Southern African conditions. First things first. We must focus our energies on ending immigration. Just doing that, something far easier than almost any other aspect of the broad WN agenda (but as yet unaccomplished), would be a huge political as well as policy gain for nationalists. With that under our belts, new objectives can be pursued. So you are correct that my rhetoric above would not be appropriate for a politician trying to reach ordinary whites. But it remains important to avoid reducing the nationalist agenda merely to immigration termination. Therefore, while ‘responsible’ parties must employ ‘responsible’ rhetoric, WNs must also seek to be the ‘hard edge’ of political discourse, constantly moving rightwards what is acceptable to say and advocate. If part of our job is to persuade voters, by means of all types of rhetoric (whatever fits particular audiences), of the need to end immigration, another part is to accustom those who are broadly with us in terms of formulating policies to deal with the problems created by multiracialism (eg, “support the police” in dealing with nonwhite criminality) to thinking about the specifically racial aspects of those problems. Conservatives shy away from this, even when anonymously commenting on the internet. Thus my comment above, posted at a mostly conservative UK police blog, is appropriate and might resonate with some there, helping to bolster their moral courage in coming to acknowledge the disaster of diversity. 14
Posted by Leon Haller on Sun, 14 Oct 2012 05:08 | # Just to reiterate for any ‘newbies’ here: My goals as a nationalist (really, a conservative nationalist) are: 1. Expulsion of all nonwhite citizens (preceded by stripping of citizenship) and non-diplomatic residents from European soils. This should be considered Goal #1 of WN. Beyond this, I am a standard American ‘fusionist’ conservative: Christian public morality + capitalist economy + limited, non-socialist/welfarist government + celebration of Occidental High Culture + strong national defense + traditional (retributive + restitutive) crime control methods. 2. For the New World, I am more liberal. I want the government to: a. end nonwhite immigration Obviously this agenda is not meant to be that of a full political party or ideology (which for me would include many points related to military security, strengthening of property rights, removal of state interference in private business, etc). It focuses on the racial elements in the WN agenda as applied outside of Europe. The goal is not racial cleansing, but white empowerment. In fact, the latter should be emphasized. WN goals are:
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Posted by Leon Haller on Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:41 | # Way off topic - did people see that Newsweek is shutting down its print magazine at the end of this year? That’s pretty significant. The magazine has been around since before most of us were born. If all the major print media eventually die out (I think the Wall Street Journal will be an exception - its subscribers like reading it at breakfast) how will this impact nationalism? I incline towards thinking it might expand our outreach possibilities.The MSM simply never allowed our views to air. If the MSM withers and dies, non-Vital Center consensus views might get a wider hearing. On the other hand, cyberspace sucks for authors. It just doesn’t seem as ‘real’ as print. 16
Posted by uKn_Leo on Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:36 | # L_H During the recent Trayvon Martin furore Hunter said that Occidental Dissents traffic figures went through the roof. I was there man! It was exciting to be a part of it. Occy D seemed more mainstream than the mainstream media itself. The place to go to find accurate, honest reporting of events as they transpired. The lies and misinformation of the MSM were laid bare for all to see. The future had arrived. 17
Posted by CFE on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 11:32 | # Posting across the whole DT site has been suspended for over 50m now. People will see this and think about why. Those who were reading the comments on this execrable piece: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/9651350/Football-is-still-a-black-and-white-affair.html ...will know why. Those wavering will see the lengths the multi-cultists are prepared to and are forced to go. I may have it wrong, but I think the meltdown of the “moderators” is on balance a positive, on this occasion. Great work by Mr. P. as always. 18
Posted by CFE on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 13:35 | # I spoke too soon. As the thread in question had a lower post count (by about a page worth I estimated) in the “Showing…” field than in the “add comment” box, whereas 6-7 others I checked did not, during the suspension, I jumped to the wrong conclusion. Oh well. Dive in, why don’t you? 19
Posted by Bill on Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:32 | # Just checked in, jeez there’s some crap flying. Never read anything like that before. Why is the DT letting this stuff through? You too are on zee leest! 21
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Posted by uKn_Leo on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 02:04 | #
Brilliant! Thanks GW. Can I have your brain too?
Another recent thread here where commentors out of AmRen lay waste to libs after Jared Taylors talk at Towson Uni. The opposition wasn’t quite so fierce as mainstream pro’s, nevertheless the AmRen attack squad was superb.
http://www.thetowerlight.com/2012/10/controversial-speaker-ignites-community/comment-page-1/#comment-127780
(comments based on this clip)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGyfmhFobdM