A call for a radical right intellectual schwerpunkt
We will establish a network of experts, farsighted thinkers, political fora and discussion meetings. We will thereby deepen and continually further develop the concept of the New Centre and the Third Way. This is the priority for us.
From the Blair-Schroeder Third Way document issued 6th August 1999.
… the credibility of the EPA [US Environmental Protection Agency - Ed] is defeatable, but not on the basis of ETS [environmental tobacco smoke - Ed) alone. It must be part of a larger mosaic that concentrates all the EPA’s enemies against it at one time.
From an internal memo leaked from Philip Morris during the “junk science” wars of the 80s and 90s.
Today I happened across a review at Amazon Books of Frank Salter’s On Genetic Interests. It was posted by one J. P. Rushton “Prof”, and is one of a select group of reviews that he has posted. I find that fact both surprising and heartening. The MacDonald list aside, perhaps, precious little evangelism is undertaken by our own intellectuals. Prof Rushton ranks high in the Euro-loyal elite, certainly on the empirical wing. It is good to see him speaking to the humble nationalist bookworm. I certainly could not object if he and our other leading thinkers deigned to speak to the occasional blogworm as well.
And yet, in my heart I know that that would not be the most productive use of their time. In matters of elite communication, productivity is measured by weight not volume. Speaking to power is the duty and privilege of an intellectual elite, and that is no less true of ours than of any other.
The difficulty, of course, is that the present bearers of political office would rather dine on Lenin’s uncooked cadaver than learn anything from our best people. They have set their face against us. In Britain, for example, only Migrationwatch has gained sometime admittance to the gilded halls of power. But here’s Wikipedia’s list of approved British think-tanks. It’s seventy strong and, according to Wikipedia, incomplete. That’s true enough, since Migrationwatch isn’t even on it!
Think-tanks are not the whole story, of course. There are individual academics. There are business, professional and labour organisations. There are commercial interests and their lobbyists. There are government-annointed experts. There are favoured special interests groups, some of them privateer hucksters, some of them government-funded hucksters. Some are shills inside the system, some are latched on outside it.
There must be several thousand such opinionisers in this country alone, all of them ready and willing to plead their case to government, to opposition parties and to the media. Together they constitute a quite phenomenal knowledge bank on which government draws, and sustains its ideological vigour.
It is a far cry from the dogged work of our best people, atomised as they are in their university departments, writing their books and articles, occasionally being interviewed by people like us. Is it remotely possible that the great engines of government in the Western world can be memetically challenged by our scattered “300”? And never mind the prospects for a political challenge from our, for the most part, wholly marginalised parties.
The answer to that, it seems to me, is that it has to be possible. Failure is not an option. The stakes are far too high. We urgently need, then, to improve our way of doing things.
If you look at how the mainstream system operates, it is modelled as a political core comprising the policy-makers of the mainstream political parties, with an advisory ring outside it. The ring does not particularly communicate within itself, though that may happen from time to time on an ad hoc basis. It is directionally focussed wholly on the core, and offers its intellectual products like a bird feeding its young in the nest.
In this model, real-world power attracts intellectual services, and there is no difficulty for the former in acquiring the volume or quality of ideas and advice that it needs for governance. In the separate and competing nationalist sphere, tiny and powerless as it is, the scale is evidently inadequate to a parallel informational task. Our resources, intellectual and political, are spread too thinly and operate too accidentally.
Thus we find that American racialists make competing appeals to their countrymen on all too predictable grounds, relying to various degrees on the empirical studies of a few race-realists and students of Jewry. In continental Europe it is a little better, perhaps, with at least some philosophy entering the political equation, and quite a bit of electoral “nous” on tap even if it doesn’t. But empiricism is lacking, and it shows. Alain de Benoist, the leading New Right philosopher, will simply not accept race as a line of defence. So, of course, race would not be defended in heavily non-white France were his ideas ever to penetrate the Elysée.
This disconnect needs to be addressed. Lowell’s Imperium holds thinkers and researchers enough to form a serviceable advisory ring. They just need to be brought together, and situated adjacent to a core comprised of political parties and activists - including, crucially I believe, activists from mainstream parties who are interested in radical right ideas.
This bringing of nationalist thinkers to the consumers of nationalist thought really has to be as comprehensive as possible, and from across all the white world. For political progess to be made an intellectual critical mass has to be achieved. That is the vital point. As the Phillip Morris quote above makes clear, the concentration of maximium force in one place at one time is the only way for a weak party to strike a telling blow against a stronger and larger foe.
Now, a decade ago people might have expected the world wide web to facilitate such a concentration. I think it is clear today that the web is a general outreach medium. For sure, loose political groupings based on shared interests can arise through it. MR is an example of that. But the kind of model or association I have in mind is not general in reach. It is not directed towards Everyman. It is private. It is exclusive. In terms of a platform it will need something far more designed, more flexible and layered. It is to the next generation of internet technology that we must look for that.
For now, that is as far as I am going to go with this idea. But I hope to return to it again in the not-distant future.
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White people are now beginning to understand that their governments are siding with non-whites against them. They’re not going to tolerate it much longer. When change comes it will come fast, like a bolt of lightning: the storming of the Bastille was a spur of the moment thing and shook the foundations of the world, which hasn’t been the same since: everything changed in the twinkling of an eye. The demonstrations in East Berlin in 1989 that Walter Ulbricht soon realized to his terror he couldn’t stop were sudden and spontaneous and brought down the entire European Communist block in a matter of months, leaving Ulbricht in prison awaiting trial, Ceausescu and his wife shot dead and lying face down in a courtyard, and the entire communist establishment in Eastern Europe rolled up and struggling only to keep from going either to jail or in front of a firing squad. One day it was all there, impregnable; something like the next day, it seemed, it no longer was, but had gone up in smoke. A matter of months and it was all finished, irrevocable change suddenly swept in, punishments meted out or pending, accounts settled, a new establishment installed.
The following could be the start of something big:
Working class whites riot in Utrecht
In the Utrecht neighbourhood of Ondiep saw riots in the past two days after the police shot a man, Rini Mulder. The man had been fighting with a group of immigrant youths who were intimidating the Ondiep residents on Sunday. They had attacked a pregnant Dutch woman. When police arrived Mr. Mulder raised his arm to indicate that he had called for them. A policeman shot and killed him. The policeman is a Muslim, like the youth that was raising hell.
The killing caused fury amongst the working class White population. Mr. Mulder had been popular amongst his peers and they blamed the police for being too cowardly to touch immigrant youth. Killing Mr. Mulder was the spark that ignited the riots. A former police station in the neighbourhood was burned down on Sunday evening. Football supporters joined the fray and confonted the police. The mayor of Utrecht cancelled a consultation with the Ondiep residents out of fear. After Sunday the police cordoned the neighbourhood off. Despite the cordon there were renewed riots (Dutch) on Monday and Tuesday night. Last night there were 130 arrests. 60 of these were Ondiep residents, the rest are from other parts of the country, and mainly “football supporters” according to the MSM.
Of one thing we can be certain: not a few Dutch bureaucrats are looking very seriously at that and are making plans regarding which country they’ll go to in the event ... in the event something big starts, shall we say? .... Yes, in the event something big starts. The only problem is once the big one starts it goes like a lightning bolt: there won’t be time to mull things over. It’ll be “Get out! Get out! Get out!” that the bureaucrats and government officials will be saying to themselves and each other.
Things once set in motion will move with great speed ...
I´m all for riots provided they target the police and authorities. Hit them where it hurts, challenge their authority, and avoid direct confrontation with the foreign interlopers, which would brand you as “racist”.
But any course of action has to be preceded by a political and intellectual effort such as GW describes.
Posted by Proofreader on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 12:51 PM | #
If we can create over the next five years a synthesis of MacDonald, Fraser, Rushton, Salter, Hamilton, Dawkins, Francis, hopefully some elements of Nietzsche and the other authors who have something new to say- whether we can discover new things by adding ideas together, or developing our own, or whether we just demonstrate that we have understood them - then we will have created a philosophy whose explanatory and predictive power vastly outstrips all competitors. Nationalism will have unanswerable arguments behind it; it wont be merely the gut-feeling, common sense appeal of our grandfather’s generation, but it will appeal itself to ‘reason’, the thinking man- and also gut-feeling.
As far as evangelizing and spreading the word, increasing our share in the market-place of ideas, thats a practical matter, dependent on concrete plans. Its also a function of the explanatory power of the philosophy, because it attracts ‘stray minds’ and appeals to them by virtue of it’s truth and inner consonance with itself.
Once all these stray-thoughts, studies, and observations are built together into a philosophical edifice, so to speak, people of more intellectual inclination can devote themselves entirely to strategic evangelism, the intellectual work being finished.
(only tentatively, of course)
Posted by PF on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 12:54 PM | #
Gee, GW, do you think that “we” need to actually read and understand the works that we are supposed to incorporate into this focused, evangelizing worldview?
Or, should a prerequisite for commenting and interpreting someone’s work be that no prior knowledge of that work is allowed?
And, more to the point, is anyone listening? Is there a competent audience? Are even those in “leadership” positions an openminded and competent audience for this, or do we have instead, “red roasting rodents”, “male and female nostrils”, and the rest of it?
Posted by gnxp stinks on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 01:13 PM | #
If we can create over the next five years a synthesis of MacDonald, Fraser, Rushton, Salter, Hamilton, Dawkins, Francis, hopefully some elements of Nietzsche and the other authors who have something new to say
Dawkins? Was that a typo? What does Dawkins have to offer?
Posted by Andy Wooster on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 01:23 PM | #
gnxp stinks,
I’m sorry for writing the post about EGI without having read On Genetic Interests. I read the paper and thought EGI was easily understandable. That mistake wont happen again.
I do wonder sometimes how big the audience really is. Both for this blog, and for WN-related sites in general. Do you ever get the feeling you hear crickets chirping?
Posted by PF on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 01:25 PM | #
Dawkins ideas are important, I think. The selfish gene paradigm as opposed to the selfish organism paradigm. The extended phenotype. (before you ask, yes, I did read it.. )
The discussion of arms races, manipulation, vectors and parasitism. James Bowery seems to think Dawkins is important too.
Posted by PF on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 01:29 PM | #
Good points about the action of regular, working class people who are fed up. After all they have been on the front lines of this wra that is going on in Europe and the US too. My dad was was involved in the hardhat riot in 1970 in NYC. Construction workers joined forces with people from the financial industry to beat up hippies, communists, traitors and other trash in the street (who says labor and capital can’t work together?. They forced the cops to stand aside and went to work. They NY Times called it a riot (of course), and the name unfortunately stuck (when blacks, stalinists or other types riot and loot it is called fighting oppression). It was people who were fed up doing something about it.
Proofreader, I’m all for “riots” too, but the police should not be considered the enemy either. Many are sympathetic, if not in total agreement to many of the arguements being made on this website. It is better to have them on your side. At the very least they won’t get in the way. Many of them are just average white guys like you and me. They see racial truths every day. I believe the “hard hat riots” might be a good model for the future.
Posted by Anon on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 01:42 PM | #
gnxp repelis,
“They” - the politicos - manifestly do not understand. That said, “they” are unlikely to be the best or most intelligent leaders we could possibly have. “They” are simply the most courageous, most thick-skinned, most determined, most angry ... “They” are the ones who, today, are willing to put their necks on the line. For that I am grateful. I would not disparage them as you do.
Of course, I’m talking about European nationalists here as well as American WNs ... Griffin and the three musketeers as well as Duke and Taylor. I don’t think for one moment that we should write them all off. I think we should encourage them and those who will come after them, who may be watching from the wings today.
All I am saying here is that the way the mainstream works is not accidental. Our side does not work that way, primarily because it is so divorced from the incentivisation of power that has encouraged developments in the mainstream. With our people, individuals have certain intellectual interests of their own they wish to pursue - and that’s it. Politically-speaking, there is no general pull towards the refinement of understanding. That is simply not good enough.
You offer nothing but dissatisfaction and cynicism. Let’s see what we can actually squeeze out of this strange nationalist animal before we consign it to the tender mercies of the butcher.
Posted by Guessedworker on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 01:50 PM | #
My apologies. I do agree with you. It’s too early in the morning for me to posting here, as my brain is not quite firing on all cylinders.
I recently read that Dawkins had endorsed Sam Harris’ red-state/blue-state crime argument. This argument is so idiotic that it temporarily blinded me to the fact that not everything Dawkins writes is so mind-numbingly stupid.
Posted by Andy Wooster on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 01:53 PM | #
To “gnxp stinks” who seems a bit of a grouch insisting on everything his way, and to PF who wonders how big the audience is:
Everyone mans his post, including us and those who read this site, and those who don’t, and those who’ve never heard of EGI and couldn’t care less about Salter, and everyone else who feels concerned about what’s going on. Each has his role to play and together we’ll overthrow the oppressors. Each man to his post, and let him man it ably — his post, that’s all we ask of him. The men in the engine room below decks aren’t the captain or first mate and the fighter pilot isn’t the ak-ak gunner and the cook isn’t the ship’s doctor. Did every white man at Cronulla and every Dutchman at Utrecht the past two days know all about Salter? No but each manned his post and did his job. Let those who know about Salter know about Salter and those who know about something else just as vital know about that. We’re all comrades and we will prevail.
To “Gnxp stinks”: stop being a grouch who insists on getting everything his own way, please. Let other people do things their way. In this stuggle we’ll need all the help we can get. Thank you.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 02:03 PM | #
I won’t answer Fred; I stand by my comments.
My disagreements with GW - he knows them, no need to go into it endlessly.
A comment about Dawkins. Dawkins’ idea of the extended phenotype, and some of his other work, is of some value. But be very careful with Dawkins. His “arguments” against group selection are childish strawman “arguments”; the one quoted by Salter is so absurd it can be part of a biologically-oriented comedy routine.
Apparently, Dawkins doesn’t quite grasp the concept that something arising from selection needs to actually be selected for; there needs to be selective pressure at that particular level. Besides which, of course, Salter’s ideas do not depend on “group selection”, which is made clear in “On Genetic Interests.” But to highlight Dawkins’ stupidity, it is instructive.
Dawkins also made a moronic comment, if I am not mistaken, concerning the fact that Queen Eliz II would not share any actual genes, by descent from, say, William the Conquerer, trying to delegitimize long term kinship.
To which, identical by state is “identical” to identical by descent, and one must consider the relative genetic similarity to discern genetic interests. Yes, QEII may not have any of WTC’s actual genes (by descent). But I can say with some confidence, that if it were possible to genetically analyze all involved, WTC would be far more similar to QEII than he would be to, say, Alan Dershowitz or Confucious or Chaka Zulu. Indeed, one may find some genetic identity by state, to a far greater extent, between QEII and WTC, than between any of those individuals and some Nigerian.
That should be obvious. But “hip” metrosexual “scientists” have their own criteria for truth-telling, it appears.
Posted by grouchy gnxp stinks on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 04:08 PM | #
Dawkins and Hamilton both were derailed just when their work became “dangerous”. Hamilton got derailed by Trivers and Axelrod (both Jewish I believe) “reciprocal altruism” right after Hamilton’s seminal Innate Social Aptitudes of Man, which brought group selection of humans to the forefront of thought. Dawkins got derailed by the Jewish-dominated “humanist” and “skeptics” organizations right after he published his insightful and highly “dangerous” “The Extended Phenotype”.
These are not random occurances.
Posted by James Bowery on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 06:16 PM | #
Guessedworker says, “Lowell’s Imperium holds thinkers and researchers enough to form a serviceable advisory ring. They just need to be brought together, and situated adjacent to a core comprised of political parties and activists - including, crucially I believe, activists from mainstream parties who are interested in radical right ideas.”
I would like to respectfully quarrel with several things.
1) Why is what we are doing inherently or legitimately either conservative or right wing? The discourse categories, liberal and conservative, hold no energy for us to harness except for denouncing left-wing racialists, for example. This is 19th century thinking, and the global reach of corporations, non-Arabic Semites, and the Internet necessitate the abandonment of such labels as conservative or liberal for new memes and new categories.
2) And why is what we are doing related to existing national entities? The discourse category of nation, nationalism, and state have become such a jumble of notions that it is difficult to see how new wine could be poured into such old bottles.
3) An intervening step will be the creation of a large scale and well-edited news agency, one like a “European & European Diaspora News Agency.” That will be the only way to create new discourse arguments that reach college kids so they don’t have to thrash around with old ideas.
4) We really need to create new narratives (even competing ones) that explore our history and nature positively, and as something in which our children and grandchildren can have a decent sense of self-respect. But to saddle these new narratives with old concepts is probably a non-starter. Although re-defining old and abused concepts in a new way is fun and useful in a seminar sense, we are pushing a large rock up a steep hill and we ought not re-define concepts, if we can craft new slogans, concepts, ideas, songs, stories, poems, images, arguments, and memes.
Posted by Stanley Womack on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 06:25 PM | #
Robert Trivers profile from the UK Guardian:
He was born in 1943, the second of seven children born to Howard and Mildred Trivers, who had met at graduate school in Harvard in the 30s. His father, whom he characterises as clever but ineffectual, had pursued postgraduate studies in German philosophy in Germany, until 1938 when even he noticed it was time for a Jewish student to leave. He was able to do this because his own father, an immigrant from Lithuania, had made a fortune in the rag trade: his gimmick was the two-pants suit, which consisted of a jacket with two pairs of trousers, since they would wear out first.
Posted by James Bowery on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 06:29 PM | #
Wikipedia’s list of Ashkenazi Jews contains a link to Robert Axelrod.
Posted by James Bowery on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 06:34 PM | #
All of the images displayed for “Humanist of the Year” at their website:
Posted by James Bowery on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 06:48 PM | #
The top pictures at the Skeptics Society website are of Jewish men.
Carl Sagan (who is the cover story for this months issue of their journal):
Dr. Michael Shermer, Executive Director:
Posted by James Bowery on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 07:02 PM | #
I just realized the “humanists” may change the images in response to my links.
So, here are the names, in order, as they appeared when I posted the above images:
Carl Sagan (J), Isaac Asimov (J), E. O. Wilson, Alice Walker, Edwin H. Wilson, Betty Friedan (J).
That’s 50% Jewish.
Posted by James Bowery on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 07:21 PM | #
But be very careful with Dawkins. His “arguments” against group selection are childish strawman “arguments”; the one quoted by Salter is so absurd it can be part of a biologically-oriented comedy routine.
Whenever he talks about group selection, Dawkins suddenly becomes flighty and quick-stepping in his explanations. In every other instance, he goes in baby-steps and at a turtle’s pace (I’m full of idiomatic expressions, today!). Should group selection come up, he speeds up his writing and starts leaving out essential connections. While I dont trust myself to refute what he is saying (yet), one gets the feeling that he is ‘skittering’ over the top of something deeper.
Posted by PF on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 07:49 PM | #
Definitions Definitions Definitions.
Radical Right means to be a Monarchist. I believe half of our problems is that we are all democracies now controlled by business, corporate, ideological interests.
The Monarchy is the Leader of the Racial group. All European nations had monarchy. The Monarch is the Father of his people. At leas they have a concern about their nation that businesses and corporations don’t have. Neither does Ideology have concern. Ideology is concerned about Ideology. A Monarch cares for his People. (Granted some in the Monarchy are affected by pc and socialism now.)
A Return to religion. St. Thomas Aquinas said, “The more one loves God, the more one loves his nation”. Love of God and Love of Nation go hand in hand.
It is God who created Nations and it will be God that defends them---Of course we humans have got to put our backside into it.
Prayer. What happened to Spiritual Warfare. God Answers prayers. Evil is a spiritual thing not physical! How can you fight evil with riots? First pray, and then go out and do physical battle. Prayer comes first.
Education and Virtue. Only the good can speak the Truth and Manliness in order to take a stand against pc.
My two cents.
Posted by W.LindsayWheeler on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 08:15 PM | #
“How can you fight evil with riots?” (—Lindsay Wheeler)
In calling attention to the riots by Dutch workingmen in Utrecht it was not my intention to advocate riots or violence by aggrieved white people. Riots or other violence in search of redress of political grievance are wrong and anyone advocating them makes an extremely serious mistake. The only exceptions are when groups assembled in order to seek peaceful redress of grievance are directly attacked physically, in which case they should defend themselves physically as far as is necessary and possible, until they can get out of harm’s way. There were whites in this category at Cronulla and yes, in that situation they were justified in defending themselves in the heat of direct physical attacks by Lebanese-Moslem thugs wielding bats, knives, and chains. The other circumstance where violence and riots, while undesirable, are understandable, is when government is so tyrannical it forbids all assembling of the people for peaceful redress of grievance.
The anti-government demonstrations in East Berlin in 1989 that led to the toppling of all of Moscow-based communism were peaceful. There was no rioting or violence whatsoever.
The riots in Utrecht are not something good but they are something understandable: people have had it up to here, yet the government refuses to listen. The result is the pot boils over. No one can claim not to understand this.
All this is not to say that once our side gains power there shouldn’t be arrests, fair trials, convictions, and punishments of today’s criminals — all of the punishments meted out to be scrupulously legally adjudicated with full due-process and constitutional protections — and these should include capital punishments.
Our day will come. The other side’s star is sinking. Ours is rising.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 09:55 PM | #
Randall Burns today:
Posted By Randall Burns On 15th March 2007 @ 13:58
Even Dutch MSM has been reporting riots there.
There is much controversy around the actual cause/motivation of the riots.
“Dutch media report that in the city of Utrecht riots have started after a police officer shot a man armed with a knife. This night is the second night of serious riots in the city. Cars are set on fire, shops are destroyed and a former police station went up in flames. On first glance one might think: Paris style riots in The Netherlands? But unlike the Paris riots, the rioters are not Muslims. The rioters are all native Dutch. Just like the Dutch man shot by the police.
“So what is going on? Dutch national media are very, very silent about the reasons for the shooting and seem to suggest that the riots are just the work of football hooligans. But even the strongest politically-correct force cannot stop the Internet and the blogs from revealing the real story behind these riots. This is what I found out, by looking at the local media and the blogosphere:
“The neighborhood of the police shooting is being terrorized by ‘youths’ (Warning: Newspeak for Muslim youth). Like everywhere in The Netherlands the police do not do much about it. People are attacked, robbed, etc. People keep calling the police but they don’t get protected. Rinie Mulder had called the police very often. So when last Sunday the ‘youths’ harassed a young pregnant woman (a daughter of a friend), he went after them. In the fight that ensued he took the knife of one of the ‘youths.’ When a police officer arrived and Rinie showed him the knife, he was shot dead. … Was [the policeman] siding with the ‘youths’? (After 3 days of riots the police now deny the rumor that the officer was a Muslim.) The local media also report that the local Dutch people they speak to are quite desperate about the ‘situation’ in their neighborhood. The mayor now even talks about doing something about the ‘situation.’ [Inverted Paris Style Riots in The Netherlands]”
I wonder if that means Pim Fortuyn’s successors will be doing better in the next elections?
The Netherlands already has tough immigration policies compared to other EU nations (all major parties adopted more restrictive immigration policies after Fortuyn’s rise). However, involvement in the EU limits just how tough — and effective — those policies can be (the EU requires member states accept workers from other EU member states — so once someone gets admitted to France or Spain they can work in the Netherlands).
I doubt these riots are really about anything that has happened recently. Instead, I expect there have been problems brewing in the Netherlands for a long time.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 10:30 PM | #
More from Snouck. (I strongly disagree with Snouck’s closing line here: he’s being way too pessimistic.)
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 10:36 PM | #
Stanley,
Your Question 1 exemplifies my thesis very well. Among American “Euro-loyal” activists there is insufficient understanding that liberalism is EVERYTHING, and that conservatism in the accepted sense is liberalism of the right. There is even less understanding, therefore, that conservatism of a traditional kind may be revolutionary. Further than this, I have argued since the inception of this blog that all classical Pittite conservatism, which died in Britain after 1832 and has never been known in America, IS a revolutionary politic in the most literal sense: it cannot come into being except that it slits the throat of the liberal “incumbent”.
Of course, what I think does not matter, I am no one ... not an intellectual of note, not a voice that carries to the furthest nationalist shore. My interest is in constructing a platform on which those intellectuals, those voices can distill their ideas and nationalist politicians can perfect their strategies. As Blair-Schroeder said, “We will establish a network of experts, farsighted thinkers, political fora and discussion meetings. We will thereby deepen and continually further develop the concept of the New Centre and the Third Way.”
Question 2: Why is what we are doing related to existing national entities?
Because we are for our peoples, who are the possessors, today at least, of their sacred homelands. Blood and soil.
Question 3: An intervening step will be the creation of a large scale and well-edited news agency, one like a “European & European Diaspora News Agency.”
Magnificent. How? Write the blueprint. Cost it. Find a way of competing with Reuters and AP, who dominate the global news-supply market.
Question 4: New narratives
I am proposing a conference in perpetuum of the loyal intellectual and political elites, on a global basis, conducted in VR. Narratives such as those you would like to see may be fed from thinker to activist. But evangelising those narratives to our people would be the latter’s task. That is not the subject of my post.
Posted by Guessedworker on Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 11:35 PM | #
“Communist block”
I fancy, Mr. Scrooby, that you intended to type “bloc”.
Posted by Søren Renner on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 12:01 AM | #
Thanks. My English and French get mixed up. As a young man I spoke French exclusively for eleven years, plus German and a smattering of Flemish (and I heard English mainly over the BBC World Service). Those years took away some of the assurance with which I speak English, assurance which has never really come back (partly, I think, because I still speak mainly French with my wife): I mix up prepositions, spellings, sometimes words themselves, sometimes grammar — if I don’t think about certain things I make mistakes.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 12:26 AM | #
While I dont trust myself to refute what he is saying (yet), one gets the feeling that he is ‘skittering’ over the top of something deeper
When I’m in this position, I find it’s often helpful to stop trying to refute, and switch to stating reality. Helps a lot with Gordian mumbo-jumbo, or what SFers call “jewspeak.”
Posted by Svyatoslav Igorevich on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 12:32 AM | #
I don’t think Michael Shermer is Jewish (athough he does look it)—of course, he’s from Southern California, so there’s no telling what he is. He spoke at my school once about the Skeptics’ Society and mentioned his Church of Christ (which has a history of being ultra conservative and Anti-Semitic) upbringing.
Anyway Christianity/Judaism...same disease, different virulence.
Posted by uberto on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 02:29 AM | #
I don’t think Michael Shermer is Jewish (athough he does look it)—of course, he’s from Southern California, so there’s no telling what he is. He spoke at my school once about the Skeptics’ Society and mentioned his Church of Christ (which has a history of being ultra conservative and Anti-Semitic) upbringing.
Shermer denies being Jewish, but he does rather look Jewish in the photograph above. As for the Church of Christ affiliation, your understanding is diametrically opposed to mine. My experience is that the Church of Christ is full of Jews. I don’t know that many Church-of-Christers, but most of the ones I’ve met are of Jewish descent. And on the internet, I often come across Church of Christ preachers who are or appear to be of Jewish descent.
Posted by ben tillman on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 02:50 AM | #
A comment about Dawkins. Dawkins’ idea of the extended phenotype, and some of his other work, is of some value. But be very careful with Dawkins. His “arguments” against group selection are childish strawman “arguments”....
My thoughts exactly.
Regarding “group selection”, we are re-inventing the wheel. Darwin had it right already in 1871:
[W]hen two tribes of primeval man living in the same country came into competition, if the one tribe included (other circumstances being equal) a greater number of courageous, sympathetic, and faithful members who were always ready to warn each other of danger, this tribe would without doubt succeed best and conquer the other.
That is not to say that this idea has not been built upon. A number of recent works on group cohesion and groups as adaptive units are essential to our understanding of our situation. These works include MacDonald’s case study on the Jewish community as an adaptive unit and, equally important, David Sloan Wilson’s books:
Unto Others: The Evolution and Psychology of Unselfish Behavior
Darwin’s Cathedral: Evolution, Religion, and the Nature of Society
Also:
Christopher Boehm’s Hierarchy in the Forest: The Evolution of Egalitarian Behavior
Matt Ridley’s The Origins of Virtue: Human Instincts and the Evolution of Cooperation
From a different perspective:
Robert Nisbet’s Quest for Community
http://www.amazon.com/Quest-Community-Ethics-Freedom-Self-Governance/dp/1558150587
Posted by ben tillman on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 02:55 AM | #
One more:
R.H. Tawney, Religion and the Rise of Capitalism
Posted by ben tillman on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 03:21 AM | #
Well, I admit I was a bit lazy when I went for the evidence that the “Skeptics” were Jew-dominated. This is partially because my personal experience with them at the local chapter level in the Silicon Valley area was dominated by Jews, and whenever I saw them addressing genuinely controversial areas such as Holocaustian dogma, they all of a sudden got religion. It was really quite nauseating and was one of the things that reinforced my belief that “the Jew” must be reified. In particular I remember going to a rather ordinary party in SV where the Jewish then head of the Skeptics Society showed up in bondage and discipline attire exhibiting a particularly obnoxious strut and attitude toward anyone who entertained slightly “unorthodox” views. It reminded me of some kind of sick religious ritual.
Anyway, continuing the investigation of the “Skeptics” Jewish dominance:
Their introductory page:
http://www.skeptic.com/about_us/discover_skepticism.html
They have only two authorities they quite inset from the main body text:
Alberg Einstein and Baruch Spinoza
References to Carl Sagan abound with quotes sprinkled about as though he were some patron saint of “skepticism”. There is no one more quoted so far as I see.
Moreover, the primary source of funding for “studies” in “skepticism” is “Institute for Humanist Studies”, which is absorbed in secular Jewish views.
These may not be objective metrics rigorously presented but I’m not going to strive forever with the heart of the obstinate. Sometimes very difficult to convey the hard-won wisdom of a lifetime wasted giving “the benefit of the doubt” to those who least deserve it but one cannot be compassionate without wishing in earnest that those younger than one’s self—or those more vulnerable to exploitation because of their guilelessness—may be spared.
Posted by James Bowery on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 04:42 AM | #
I would say Fjordman is now become irrelevant by his refusal or inability to see the fundamental importance of the racial dimension. He only sees “the Muslims” dimension: “the Muslims” as opposed to the Europeans. He sees no race opposed to Europeans, and no racial dimension to the current crisis of the forced demographic transformation of the Ancient Nations of Europe. For him, if Europe became one-hundred-percent Nigerian Negro, Mexican mestizo, Gujarati, or Han Chinese it would still be the same Europe but if it became converted to Islam while remaining racially identical to what it’s always been racially, it would be lost. At this stage of the game Fjordman is either dishonest, a craven coward, or a genuine nitwit in the C. Loring Brace mold. He’s irrelevant and I for one am no longer going to look at his articles. Bye-bye, Fjordman. Been nice knowin’ ya. It’s just that I don’t have time for vapid nothingness when there’s work to be done. You understand, I’m sure. Look, when you come up with something to say could ya drop me an e-mail so I can go look at it? Thnx!
(No, I won’t say “Thnx, comrade!” I save that for comrades!)
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 05:27 AM | #
BrusselsJournal.com covers Utrecht.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 05:33 AM | #
Can one imagine just what vast sums of money have been spent by Jewish establishment over the last 50 years to engineer their particular view as the view? Disregarding for the moment where that money came from, it is not truly amazing to consider that how a little “consciousness raising”, starting with our young and working up, can quickly bring to nought the value of that prodigious work.
Posted by Bend Ovar on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 10:47 PM | #
“Can one imagine just what vast sums of money have been spent by Jewish establishment over the last 50 years to engineer their particular view as the view? Disregarding for the moment where that money came from, it is not truly amazing to consider that how a little ‘consciousness raising,’ starting with our young and working up, can quickly bring to nought the value of that prodigious work.” (—Bend Ovar)
I’ve thought about this same thing, Bend Ovar, and I agree it’s surprising the Jews don’t see there are far better ways in which they could have spent their hard-earned money in furtherance of Jewish and Israeli interests (not to mention money not theirs which they’ve controlled such as the funds of the United Way and the Ford Foundation). They’ve wasted vast sums of their own (and other people’s) money which could’ve been way more intelligently spent for the betterment of Jews and Israel, sums wasted because, it seems, Jews lack certain genes necessary for perceiving the world around them in normal fashion the way normal races do. Jews have a long history of doing that. Look at the sums Jacob Schiff gave Leon Trotsky in order to finance the 1917 Bolshevik revolution: in today’s dollars it came to something like 500 million in just the first payment. Did the Bolshevik revolution improve the lot of Jews? I don’t see how. The Jews are the only human race to have successfully incorporated an invertebrate gene into their genomes: the one that makes moths fly into candle flames. They’ve got the exact same gene. As if inflicting communism on the world wasn’t stupid enough, the latest thing the Jews are working on with all their millions and all their billions is getting all white people in the world changed into Negroes. Can anything so insane, not to mention ultimately so destructive for Jews themselves, even be imagined? No matter: if it’s insane and devastatingly perilous for Jews themselves look to Jews to fall all over themselves making sure they fund it. These people are smart but in some ways, you know, they’re real, real, real fricking morons. Jews have, shall we say, some screws loose. They’re not normal. The Jews are simply not normal.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Friday, March 16, 2007 at 11:40 PM | #
Think of it: to the Jewish mind, if only all white people in the world could be transformed into Negroes Israel and the world’s Jews would benefit immensely. That’s actually the way they think and they’re spending millions nay billions right now as we speak, trying to bring that about. The insanity of it can’t even be imagined.
Or look at this:
If somebody doubts that unregulated ethnic competition methods might lead to genocide in the future (although the examples are plentiful in history) take a look at the growing and radicalizing muslim community in Europe. Jews have advocated open immigration efficiently as a way of weakening the majority population’s power (one of the main reasons). If muslims, who hate the Jews deeply, take over Europe as a consequence of immigration, as has been predicted by, e.g., Bat Y’eor, Bernard Lewis and Mark Steyn, the consequences to Jews might be especially grave. [...] If America becomes majority non-white (Jews have advocated open immigration efficiently also in the U.S.), who will these people target when they start to grab power? Could their main target be a small group who have the most concentrated power in the U.S.? Who knows what forms the powergrab will take. Many latinos and blacks seem to hate and oppose jews.
See, but the brilliant Jews haven’t figured this out yet. The billions they could’ve spent bettering the situation of Israel or in some other way actually making things better for Jews, they spend instead on buying U.S. politicians and mass media organs in order to see that race-replacement is imposed on the U.S.’s founding population until every last white is changed into a Negro. The Jews by their behavior make themselves into a disease a Euro nation catches then must try to recover from if it doesn’t want to perish. They make themselves into the Jewish disease, which Euro nations have to try not to catch. The first thing Jews do to a Euro nation once present in sufficient numbers among its inhabitants is get the place race-replaced, perferably by something non-white. Somehow that always makes Jews feel a lot better if they can just pull that off. So Euro nations have to be on the lookout, have to start being vigilant so as not to let too many Jews into their countries or next thing they know they’ll get race-replaced. You’d think the Jews would realize there are a lot better ways they could behave toward the host populations than the above, ways that would make both the hosts and the Jews way happier. But no, that thought hasn’t penetrated Jewish skulls. So populations turn against the Jews who then run around in circles baffled at where all the “anti-Semitism” is coming from. (Hint: When you try to destroy people’s races and nations, guys, they might, ya know, get mad ... Still don’t get it? ... Hey just trust me on this one OK? ... [My GOD, what fricking morons .... The Jewish disease — something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy!]
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 12:12 AM | #
Fred: They’ve wasted vast sums of their own (and other people’s) money which could’ve been way more intelligently spent for the betterment of Jews and Israel, sums wasted because, it seems, Jews lack certain genes necessary for perceiving the world around them in normal fashion the way normal races do. Normal?
It may be true that Jews, like us, have wasted treasure, but the Jews at least wasted theirs in misguided attempts to advance their own interests.
If any group misperceives the world around them - it’s us.
The respective Jewish and White failings in realistic worldviews are quite different, but ours is the more dangerous I think.
Posted by yllica on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 02:05 AM | #
Or look at this:
If somebody doubts that unregulated ethnic competition methods might lead to genocide in the future (although the examples are plentiful in history) take a look at the growing and radicalizing muslim community in Europe. Jews have advocated open immigration efficiently as a way of weakening the majority population’s power (one of the main reasons). If muslims, who hate the Jews deeply, take over Europe as a consequence of immigration, as has been predicted by, e.g., Bat Y’eor, Bernard Lewis and Mark Steyn, the consequences to Jews might be especially grave. [...] If America becomes majority non-white (Jews have advocated open immigration efficiently also in the U.S.), who will these people target when they start to grab power? Could their main target be a small group who have the most concentrated power in the U.S.? Who knows what forms the powergrab will take. Many latinos and blacks seem to hate and oppose jews.
That’s got to be right. If Christians and Muslims formed an alliance that could be bad news for Jewish interests. The war in Iraq is instructive. If the Christian soldiers (mainly from the south—anglo-celts even now still ridiculed by the Jewish establishment) figure out that they’re pawns used to protect Israel, they not be so inclined to protect them again. As the world shrinks who knows. I’ve got a feeling the wheels are starting to fall off the Jewish cart.
Posted by Bend on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 02:42 AM | #
Dear Goys:
You are defeated already spiritually, physically, and most important, strategically. Do not resist further for your own sake.
As a defeated wolf supines to express subservience, so must you. Further resistance only forces our hand, you understand; we do not actually seek your total annihilation as our dominion must have slave-men for physical labors and slave-girls for as we please, but goy strains susceptible to anti-Semitism will be eradicated.
The site proprietors are to cease resistance operations immediately and replace the current site with a notice of apology. Thank you. That will be all.
Posted by Pax Judaica on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 05:12 AM | #
A quick heads-up: Fjordman’s got an extremely important piece up over at BrusselsJournal.com. This is a must-read piece, comrades! Trust me. All friends of the principles MR.com represents must read this piece. If I have time I’ll comment further on it later (might not have time though).
(I know, I know, I know, I just finished flaming Fjordman and said I’d never look at his stuff again. What can I say? I was letting off steam. It’s still true he hasn’t got his race-awareness (or race-honesty?) act together but this piece is good, folks — good and extremely important. Something is brewing out there and things are going to start moving in our favor. We’re very close to the tipping point beyond which the other side’s forty-five-year-long régime-of-horrors can no longer be propped up.)
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 12:10 PM | #
Maybe you had it right the first time, Fred. I would certainly like to know the ethnicity of Fjordman’s extended family. That BJ article quotes Theodore Dalrymple, Robert Spencer, Bat Y’eor, an “American” named Jonathan Friedman, and a “Frenchman” film-maker named Pierre Rehov.
That’s a lot of sympathy-going-on-advocacy for Jewish ethnic interests. I mean, it’s one thing to insist on European self-determination when all the sound and fury is anti-Moslem. But European self-determination cannot be achieved without the same separation from Jewry. How’s Fjordman’s record there again?
Posted by Guessedworker on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 01:39 PM | #
Guessedworker: “I would certainly like to know the ethnicity of Fjordman’s extended family. That BJ article quotes Theodore Dalrymple, Robert Spencer, Bat Y’eor, an “American” named Jonathan Friedman, and a “Frenchman” film-maker named Pierre Rehov.”
- As far as I know, T. Dalrymple (not his real name) is an Englishman, Robert Spencer is middle eastern Christian, financed largely by jews in his work, Bat Y’eor (not her real name) is Jewish and rest’s ethnicity you surely know.
“That’s a lot of sympathy-going-on-advocacy for Jewish ethnic interests. I mean, it’s one thing to insist on European self-determination when all the sound and fury is anti-Moslem. But European self-determination cannot be achieved without the same separation from Jewry. How’s Fjordman’s record there again?”
- Who cares what Fjordman does or doesn’t do. It is not his job to look after our ethnic interests, it is ours. Muslims are real problem in Europe, along with other immigrant groups Fjordman doesn’t talk about. If we can get useful information from Fjordman, we should use it and then disregard the rest. You can add “pro-jewish” before Fjordman to tell the other useful information.
Your article was good and important, but I would add something. You wrote about breakthrough by concentrating powers. This should be one of the methods. But other is finding point of views that supports our views without being them. We don’t change our basic views, but offer milder views for e.g. timid politicians and citizens whose thoughts have been fed by media. Immigration causes problems with environment, increases criminality, worsen the schools etc. Migrationwatch is somewhat like that. Then after people have got used to the idea, we tell that ethnic interests are legitimate concerns and explain it from this point on. We don’t try get people accept the idea to their own politics, just to accept it in others. That is easier for people. Then much later move forward from this point on. This or some other similar weak spot we should use in a gradual and slow manner. This is in the end more important than sudden breakthroughs. Also the paradigm thoughts of society doesn’t change quickly, it takes long time. It is like huge ship, with tiny rudder. Anyway, the most important and precious things are often in minority like White nationalists and diamonds.
Posted by a Finn on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 07:53 PM | #
“As a defeated wolf supines to express subservience, so must you. Further resistance only forces our hand, you understand; we do not actually seek your total annihilation as our dominion must have slave-men for physical labors and slave-girls for as we please, but goy strains susceptible to anti-Semitism will be eradicated.”
Posted by Pax Judaica on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 05:12 AM
- Trolls should not be fed, but I knock this one slightly. Old talmudian dream and goal is that jews rule the world and every jew will have 20 000 non-jewish slaves. And sorry, there is not anyone susceptible to anti-semitism. Your own destructive (both to Whites and jews) politics creates resistance to those very same jewish politics.
Posted by a Finn on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 08:34 PM | #
“Anyway, the most important and precious things are often in minority like White nationalists and diamonds.” (—Finn)
Thank you for that encouraging compliment, Finn, comrade! And thank you for all your exceedingly helpful comments in the threads here! I always appreciate your very high-quality posts.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 08:53 PM | #
Excerpt from Snouck’s latest on the situation in Utrecht:
The Ondiep neighbourhood has been intimidated by groups of Turkish youth for a long time. Pleas for protection have gone unheeded. Rini Mulder himself called the police more than 30 times. But the police have seemed unable or unwilling to protect Ethnic Dutch citizens from Turks.
Writers such as Martin van Creveld and William Lind have pointed out that states are increasingly unable to protect their citizens. Citizens in turn are seeking ways to find security. Their loyalty is moving away from the state to other social units. Elite-created supranational organisations such as the EU and NATO are not looking out for the security of the middle and lower classes. By hiring security companies and forming well[-protected private gated communities] well-off private individuals seek to secure their living and business environments.
Working-class people will not be able to raise the money for private security firms. So they have to form their own security groups. Since their taxes are supposed to go to police protection, they should demand a hefty discount on their taxes. Another idea to finance reimbursing the guards is by registering the groups as a company and receiving a budget from the municipality.
It is unacceptable that the political class gets away with hollowing out the security of the people without relinquishing some control over the lives of the people they are failing to protect.
I wish Mr. Gradus Kwarten and his men of the Ondiep Ordedienst all success in their undertaking.
Things are moving. They are not standing still. Things are moving in our favor. The pace, hitherto snail-like, is going to pick up. We’re going to start seeing more open resistance.
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 09:45 PM | #
“Things are moving. They are not standing still. Things are moving in our favor. The pace, hitherto snail-like, is going to pick up. We’re going to start seeing more open resistance.”
- Sometimes there are breakthroughs and Netherlands’ could be a big one. The long term effects are decisive when evaluating the effects there. Important psychological border has been crossed.
Posted by a Finn on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 10:41 PM | #
Anyway, the most important and precious things are often in minority like White nationalists and diamonds.
Posted by PF on Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 01:24 AM | #
Writers such as Martin van Creveld and William Lind have pointed out that states are increasingly unable to protect their citizens.
Are they joking? States *can* protect their citizens—they simply don’t want to. And for good reason. Protection against immigrants amounts to protection against the state, since the immigrants are *part* of the state’s ruling apparatus. What state is going to punish itself?
Posted by ben tillman on Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 04:14 AM | #
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