If Panarin is right, how might America divide? Drudge and Bloomberg but no major US news gatherer has covered the impolitic opinions of Prof Igor Panarin, a leading Russian political analyst who was interviewed yesterday by Izvestia. This is a guy who predicted in 1998 that the American economy would collapse and America itself would be torn apart by conflicting regional ambitions. He is reported by Drudge as saying:-
So, is there a serious chance that Panarin is right - at least about a break-up of some kind? Is perhaps white secession an opportunist gambit requiring rapid racial assortation rather than a grand and long-deliberated plan? If so, an internal volition would drive the process of white decision-making, and largely do away with the work of raising racial consciousness. And the problem of an all-powerful, jealous and malign Federal bureaucracy spiking every attempt to jump-start a secessionary process also falls away. Some planning there would still need to be, of course. But under immeasurably more propitious circumstances for a clean and quick outcome. Well, I guess it’s something to talk about over the winter evenings. Comments:99002
Posted by Sacharite on Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:17 | # Your solution of indiscriminately “dumping” them in South America is needlessly crude and you know it. ...Anyways, a far more neat and humane path to me seems to be the repatriation of the above mentioned to their places of ancestral origin: say Mexico for Mestizoes, Vietnam for Vietnamese, etc. No? If you are not a troll, get a clue; and if you are, go fuck yourself. That’s not true. What do you do with the mongrels you retard? What if Vietnam doesn’t want to take back the Hmong? (Guess what, the viets don’t like hmong either, that’s why the U.S. Army used them against the Vietcong.) WTF is wrong with everyone today? Diamed in the main post simply proposes wiping everyone else out and everyone’s on my back for a modest and humane repatriation??? 99003
Posted by Dave Johns on Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:57 | # “Diamed in the main post simply proposes wiping everyone else out and everyone’s on my back for a modest and humane repatriation???” You both are living in a make-believe world where you fantasize that your ideas actually carry weight or transfer influence into the real world. HAH! Wake up to reality and smell the coffee, geniuses! 99004
Posted by Captainchaos on Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:37 | # Dave Johns: “Wake up to reality and smell the coffee, geniuses!” Dave, I like you, you’re are nice guy, and you are for our people. I think Glyn Roach is a nice guy too. Sacharite: “...retard…” LOL! Who, me? Looked in a mirror lately? “That’s not true.” Ehh, wrong! Tell him what he lost, Johnny. “What if Vietnam doesn’t want to take back the Hmong?” I know that Germany paid the Vietnamese government to take back some Vietnamese guest workers who had over stayed their visit; there is a precedent. Here is the thing: If the White man has the means and the will to do what you suggest, why would he not also have the means (carrot and/or stick) to do what I suggest? When the White man has his ethnocentric dander up he is the last cat on this green earth you want to fuck with. “What do you do with the mongrels…” You keep them from fucking any more White people - outlaw miscegenation. They will gravitate back towards whatever non-White racial group that comprises the other portion of their ancestry. White people have non-White relatives: that may suck but that’s the way it is. I may be a hard-ass (right, silver?), but I’m not a goddamn monster. “Diamed in the main post simply proposes wiping everyone else out and everyone’s on my back for a modest and humane repatriation???” Diamed has the brains and the moral fiber to be ‘baller’ and a ‘shot-caller’, as the brothas say, but in the White sense. Is that a double standard? Yup. “WTF is wrong with everyone today?” Too many of J. Richards’ conspiracy theories (really just a way he tries to sow anarchy and discontent in the collective consciousness concerning the anti-White status qou; and a private joke/game of irony he plays with the lemmings - but then their is the possibility he really believes it all). I’m not necessarily sure it would be a bad thing if we could replace Glyn Roach’s ‘Johnny Cash as uniter/world savior’ rap with Richards’ colorful narrative in the mind of dear old chap Glyn. 99005
Posted by silver on Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:23 | #
I’m not sure just how much of a “we” you’ve got going there, big boy. The rest of your proposal is just as inane. It’s almost as though it were engineered to be repulsive to the greatest possible number—though whether because of its earnestness or hilarity I can’t quite say . Then again, you’ve proven time and again what a bag of wind you are, so I guess one can expect both your sincerity and facetiousness come off as equally nauseating.
Johnnyboy, the problem isn’t discussing ideas that don’t yet carry weight; it’s discussing them in a way that seems to do its best to ensure they never will.
What I’ve suggested with respect to that is to help make that process of “gravitation” a positive event. For simple suggestions like this, laughably, you call me names—apparently oblivious to the irony of someone calling himself “captainchaos” laughing at others. And no, not “hardass,” if that means your uncompromising stance, whose essence I don’t disagree with. More like, let’s say, “blowhard.” “Ignoramous” fits the bill too. Oh, and you idiot: “That may suck but that’s the way it is”! Are you for real? “Ignoramous” it surely is. 99006
Posted by Sacharite on Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:24 | # Listen, I don’t need to prove to someone I never met [“captainchaos”- who btw is an idiot], that I’m not someone else I never met [silver - and incidentally whose comments I do not even read 99% of the time.] Thanks. 99007
Posted by Dave Johns on Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:26 | # “Dave, I like you, you’re are nice guy, and you are for our people.” Why thanks, Cap! And tell us again what you, specifically, could acually do for our people? 99008
Posted by Dave Johns on Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:43 | # “Johnnyboy, the problem isn’t discussing ideas that don’t yet carry weight; it’s discussing them in a way that seems to do its best to ensure they never will. ” Holey Toledo! Another idiot that wants to be perceived as a genius! 99009
Posted by Gudmund on Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:10 | # Dave, Is excessive negativity the perfect prescription now? Everyone, Why are we bickering like PMS-ridden housewives? (Insert “with friends like these…” joke here) 99010
Posted by Captainchaos on Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:27 | # silver: “Are you for real? “Ignoramous” it surely is.” Keep swinging away silver, I enjoy the spectacle. “...apparently oblivious to the irony of someone calling himself “captainchaos” laughing at others.” The wog says “irony” but can’t recognize a slice when he fails to see it; ignoramus? Sacharite: “Listen,” Okay…damn, I’m not hearing anything. Moving on… Dave Johns: “Why thanks, Cap!” No problem, Dave. “And tell us again what you, specifically, could acually do for our people?” I’ve been kicking the fence-sitters at Takimag onto one side of the fence or the other with some gusto for awhile now. Got some new quality commenters to come here at least. 99011
Posted by Dave Johns on Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:06 | #
Hey guy, I think even you can stand back and objectivly evaluate what you’ve acually accomplished and come to the realization that the totality of what you’re doing amounts to zero. If you really want to do anything meaningful for the white race, get married to a white woman and have as many white kids as you can afford. All the best, 99012
Posted by Ryder on Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:54 | # Rebecca:
Um…ridiculous. If I can see it with my own two eyes, it’s not a social construct. If it can be seen under a microscope, it’s not a social construct. If there are real medical implications, it’s not a social construct. If it’s in the DNA, it’s not a social construct. It is real. Clearly, people of European origin EXIST. They are real. This isn’t a television sitcom, Rebecca. Are your precious “First Nations” real, Rebecca? Or are they a social construct too? If they are merely a social construct, then surely they have no interests that need to be respected or recognized. Right? We already know the answer, don’t we? The whole cultish social construct business applies only to whites, and whites alone. Black Africans exist, Arabs exist, various Asian peoples exist. Of course the “First Nations” exist (never mind significant research showing that whites preceded the Indians in North America, so the “First” part may be a bit off). Even those social construct cultists who would claim that all race is merely a social construct, always seem to find room to protect and promote the interests of non-whites. Social construct or not, apparently non-whites are real enough to have legitimate interests. Only whites are not “real” enough, apparently. Does this make you feel better about the genocide being conducted against whites? The easy out of “Well, they don’t really exist anyway, they are just a social construct, after all. Genocide, what genocide?” If our situation was not so dire, this insanity would be laughable. Crazed madmen running around claiming that a real flesh and blood people is merely a “social construct.” Total insanity. You people should be dancing around airports. The real irony of it, an irony that is totally lost upon the cultish types who parrot such nonsense, is that the assertion that race is a social construct is, in itself, a social construct. Your assertion is just made up out of thin air. I can’t see it, taste it or touch it. I can’t see your assertion in the DNA, I can’t see it under a microscope. It has no existence outside of your mind (unlike whites, who actually exist whether you believe it or not). You just made it up. Well, to be clearer, YOU didn’t make it up. You simply parrot it mindlessly. There is a real world out there, Rebecca. Spouting mindless platitudes doesn’t change that. On another note: captainchaos, I didn’t see it myself, but I’ve heard of your exploits at Takimag. Good work. Also, it’s good to see Fred Scooby and some of the other names I remember from the old Odessa. 99013
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:02 | #
The Jews made it up. Dimwitted bovine goys are the ones who run around parroting it mindlessly while the Jews sit back unable to believe how easy it was to put one over on the goyische Kopfs. They simply cannot believe the success they’ve had with that. Needless to say they’re going to milk it for all it’s worth, now that they’ve stumbled onto the winning formula for genociding the Euros. Nothing, no argumentation in the universe, is going to persuade the Jews to come clean and drop that, and admit it’s nonsense, now that they have their goal of two thousand years nearly within their grasp, the goal of finally, at long last, getting rid of every single one of their foremost enemy on the planet, the members of the Euro race. 99014
Posted by Armor on Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:24 | # ” the idea that race is a social construct is a social construct “ The idea that the idea that race is a social construct is a social construct is a social construct too. (Or maybe not. But it’s a great way to get 3 social constructs in a row in one short sentence). 99015
Posted by Ryder on Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:39 | #
Ha! Well, that makes at least as much sense as the race deniers do. On a more serious note, and just as a matter of rhetorical style, I think it is important to go on the offensive when dealing with anti-white race deniers (which is to say, basically all race deniers). Wrong foot them from the beginning. Call bullshit on them immediately. Make them defend their ludicrous positions, positions which should be mocked mercilessly. “Race is a social construct!” (said smugly by the anti-white) “Nah. Your opinion is a social construct, not to mention ridiculous. Whites exist, pal.” *watch confused look on their face as their magical talisman, the sacred lines of the anti-white cant, failed to have the desired effect* Instead, what we typically end up doing is treating their ridiculous assertions as if they have merit. We then provide reams of evidence and reasoned argument to prove our position. Nothing wrong with doing this, and in fact it should be done, IF there is a real payoff for doing so. For example, laying out the facts calmly and clearly may have the payoff of educating reasonable and fair minded lurkers. That’s a good deal. But, in general terms, it is probably the best practice to stay on the attack, to relentlessy reject and mock the opposition. By wrong footing them, you throw their whole game plan into disarray. I’m not going to allow them to play prosecutor all the time to my defendant. I’ve got some prosecuting to do too. Our prosecution can be hardcore indeed. At the end of the day, the anti-whites are advocating policies leading directly to the genocide of our people. not to mention mass rape. By continuing to advocate their positions, they become morally culpable for these things. They become accessories to genocide and rape. They can avoid this moral culpability by ceasing to promote anti-white views. Go and sin no more. In short: the general strategy of the anti-white haters is to 1) Immediately assume the moral high ground and 2) Play prosecutor. My response to this is to IMMEDIATELY knock them off of the moral high ground, and claim it for myself. Then it’s time to play prosecutor. 99016
Posted by Captainchaos on Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:19 | # Ryder: “If it’s in the DNA, it’s not a social construct.” I posted the abstract of a genetic study that shows the 99.86% accuracy of self-identified race with genetic reality. What else could Mizz Wenchstine say? “This isn’t a television sitcom, Rebecca.” Mizz Wenchstine spends too much time smoke ‘em peace pipe, I think. “On another note: captainchaos, I didn’t see it myself, but I’ve heard of your exploits at Takimag. Good work.” Thank you. It’s more fun to hunt the ducks that fly in the sky than the ones that lie at the bottom of the barrel. Right, Mizz Wenchstine? “My response to this is to IMMEDIATELY knock them off of the moral high ground, and claim it for myself. Then it’s time to play prosecutor.” Mizz Wenchstine goes for darkies because she in an insecure, passive-aggressive little wench who needs to control. She figures she is engaging in some noble act of self-abnegation; really it is just condescension. She wants the ingins to be lifted up to the level of the White man, she thinks the reason they can’t “do it themselves” is because of evil ole Whitey. So does that mean Whitey’s way is superior? If so, doesn’t that mean Mizz Wenchstine likes to slum it? If it is Whitey’s oppression of the ingin that keeps Mr. Ingin from achieving “Whiteness” what is it that keeps Whitey from achieving godhood? The limitations of genetics? These are all questions that Mizz Wenchstine can’t be bothered with while she’s smoking ‘em peace pipe and accusing me of anti-intellectualism. LOL! Go fuck yourself, Mizz Wenchstine! 99017
Posted by Armor on Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:21 | # “ the idea that race is a social construct is a social construct ” and the policy of replacing whites with non-whites, and calling any dissenter a racist, is a racist aggression. 99018
Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:30 | # Igor Panarin firms up on his prediction of an American collapse (though some of his ideas definitely sound a bit flakey). From Reuters:-
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:31 | #
Next month would suit me. Hell, can next week be arranged? Let’s get this show on the road! The sooner this dead carcass is sloughed off the sooner North American Euros can start over fresh, making damn sure to get it right this time. Hey we’ve only been through two republics so far, the Articles of Confederation and the Contitution. Two’s not so bad considering France is on her fifth republic now (is it the fifth? I can’t remember — something like that). BRING ON THE COLLAPSE! Oh, and .... don’t forget the arrests and trials all who were responsible for it. No, we don’t intend to forgive or forget, in case the other side is starting to get nervous. Culpability’s a bitch isn’t it .......... 99020
Posted by skeptical on Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:42 | # Panarin is clearly being coy with this statement:
The U.S. has experienced its share of economic turmoil without experiencing collapse. How is the current situation any different? How does Panarin’s reference to “social and cultural phenomena” play into his analysis? Of course, certain American racialists have their view on how the “various social phenomena” will bring about America’s collapse, but the details of their analysis would never make it into Reuters. 99021
Posted by Frank on Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:34 | # I’ve heard about these Klan sites, but I’ve never actually visited one. I came to this one by accident. So sad. You folks have a sickness, and I hope you get healed. Your hatred will eat you alive along before you are harmed by minorities or immigrants. Yep, you are some sick, ignorant people. 99022
Posted by Fred on Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:30 | # Good think those media Jews Drudge and Bloomberg made this info available to you. Post a comment:
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Posted by Captainchaos on Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:47 | #
Sacharite,
Of course a return to the pre-1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act status qou ante is just from the perspective of the self-determination of White Americans for the reason that they were not asked, nor were they properly informed to make a decision about, the consequences of nullifying the 1924 Immigration Act that was clearly erected to protect their interests. Consistent with that the obvious question of what to do with legal and illegal post-1965 immigrants and their progeny arises. Your solution of indiscriminately “dumping” them in South America is needlessly crude and you know it. Are you on good terms with a guy named “silver”? If so, tell him he is a douche-bag, LOL! Anyways, a far more neat and humane path to me seems to be the repatriation of the above mentioned to their places of ancestral origin: say Mexico for Mestizoes, Vietnam for Vietnamese, etc. No? If you are not a troll, get a clue; and if you are, go fuck yourself.
P.S. Concerning Southern Africa: an ethno-state for Afrikaners there is the minimum acceptable resolution. The 70 IQ inhabitants of sub-Saharan Africa simply are not cognitively equipped to deal with ‘nationhood’ is a realistic sense. Either the Chinese and the Indians will get Africa or the White man will; which do you prefer?