Talking to normies about fascism

Posted by Guessedworker on Friday, 10 February 2023 06:33.

Mussolini's Dottrino

The Conservative Woman, one of the last remaining Brit Disqus sites where it is possible to speak nearly honestly, published a piece this morning on the co-incidence of “the bio-security state” and fascism.  The connection was dependent on the veracity, or otherwise, of the late Umberto Eco’s undisciplined Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt.

There is so much nonsense written about fascism - mostly by tediously conventional minds who insist that Mussolini was a socialist so fascism was socialism - that I thought I would post a comment very generally expressing my own comprehension of the dread philosophy.  Here it is.  Naturally, it will not be understood by the tedious.

Eco was an Italian so one would have thought he might have something useful to say about fascism, but evidently not.  Perhaps it’s just not possible anymore.  So much rot is now talked about fascism, with so many people enworlded in liberalism and modernity so incapable of reaching its essence, that the thing itself is reduced to a mere hate-label.

The first and most essential point is that it was an extreme and assertive nationalism of becoming.  It sought to be historically active and nationally transformative and, therefore, it had to be Nietzschean or it was nothing.  It was not traditionalist but modernist and radically forward-looking - “Fascist Man” was newly if not freely self-confected.  He followed the party’s prescription for the rebirth of, or return to, heroism and action.  It is not, of course, traditonalist merely to recognise that liberal modernity has reduced Man to a meek and compliant instrument of the economy, or to ask if he was something more than that in the pre-modern age.  However, its modernism meant that it accepted modern capital and sought a new and inhering role for the corporation within its transformative scheme.

The second point is that it was against the massifying tendencies of the modern world, including democracy and equality.  It was not, therefore, socialist in the sense that socialism is understood within the liberal thought-world.  It did not apprehend class but nation, and not class consciousness but ethnic consciousness in an age when ethnicity was naturally and beautifully synonymous with the nation state.  Socialism in nationalism refers to the singularity and solidarity of the folk, and the natural bonds thereof.  A huge number of somewhat simple-minded folk assume for the horseshoe theory of a single universe of thought.  It’s a falsehood.  We live in an intellectual multiverse in which the politics of genetic interests never come near to the politics of the unfettered will.  They mutually seek the other’s destruction.  Within nationalist thought, fascism (with National Socialism and Judaism) stands at the imperialistic pole of the axis, in opposition to nativism.

The third point is that it was peculiarly statist.  It rejected the destining of the folk (which inhabits National Socialism and Judaism).  Instead, it encompassed everything within the vehicle of the dynamic state as the centre of a restored greatness and empire.

This is the general flavour of the thing.  If we dispense with the horseshoe, the hate-label, and so forth, do I really see it shining through modern global elitism?  No, not at all.  Most obviously, global elitism sees no precious folk but a deracinated, a-causal, coffee-coloured mass from which its own rare and perfumed subjects are uniquely different and, by that difference, may royally inflate themselves and endow themselves with all the world’s riches.  It is not a politics like fascism, or politics at all.  It is the crime of the century.



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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 12 Feb 2023 08:40 | #

While we are on the subject of parsing ideologies, the thread to morning’s pay-walled Spectator article on free markets by Duncan Carswell, the destructive one-time UKIP entryist and actual Tory libertarian, has been added to thus:

Carswell’s famous advocacy of foreignising his own people’s home for the greater and more radical “freedom” of “markets” undermines his whole argument. Since when were “markets” a higher interest than the English people? The economy is the servant of the people, not the other way round. Giving absolute licence to economics does not generate human freedom. It generates the smallness of life of Economic Man, reducing him to the novel and meaningless, universalistic status of a dis-organised wage slave and compliant consumer. Worst of all, its open borders make him a stranger in his own home, subverting his democracy, and alienating his own errant rulers from him.

The neoliberalism of the Thatcher years really only freed the global corporation active in Third World markets, notably China and India. At home, it empowered bureaucrats, foreign colonisers, and all those who harbour malignant designs upon the English. Perhaps the freeing political emphasis should be on innovation and risk and not on the toxic CEO’s greed-is-good ideology of the market.

Belated hat-tip to the long-absent friend of this site Graham Lister, whose pretty relentless critique of neoliberalism must have made its mark!


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Posted by Robert on Tue, 21 Feb 2023 09:17 | #

One thing to note is that the Italian fascist party adopted racial laws in 1938. There were quite a few publications written in regards to the Jewish Question. Once example is that of Giovanni Preziosi whom wrote a few books dealing with the subject matter. I’m absolutely sure it was implemented due to being allied with Germany. Preziosi was a little critical of fascism at the start, but then became a supporter. There was the lone thinker Evola who opposed fascism because it wasn’t strict enough regarding race.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 22 Feb 2023 08:16 | #

Yes, Robert, it is commonly assumed that Hitler pressured Mussolini into line on the race question as a means of exposing Italian Jews who might otherwise find refuge in the skirts of the state.  But the Italian nation state was sufficiently identified with the native principle that fascism could make this change and not lose itself.  That would be unimaginable with eurasianism, for example, which, although often assumed to be a nationalism, has at its heart a unifying of ethnic difference under a single authority in Moscow, ie, it is a continental imperialism perhaps closer to ancient Rome rather than Italy in the first half of the 20th century.

I would therefore include fascism within the nationalist world of thought but draw the line before eurasianism, which seems to me to stand outside the Western philosophical canon.


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 03 Mar 2023 03:11 | #

Nicholas Farrell’s masterly biography of Mussolini provides an interesting view of 27 years worth of Fascism.

For those who cannot discern the political and philosophical difference between Italian Fascism and German National Socialism , not much can be said.


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Posted by Thorn on Mon, 14 Aug 2023 15:09 | #

Paul Weston no longer lives in England; he’s been “de-banked” there! We can safely assume why: the treasonous globalist pro-race-replacement ruling-class in England made life untenable for him in his own home country.

At any rate here is his latest video:

https://youtu.be/1-QfgQQkGJU




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