The Charmed Loop of Didactic Incitement

There is no apparent way out, as one proves that the cruelty of didactic incitement is justified no matter what recourse is taken:

The Charmed Loop of Didactic Incitement


There are some infamous command paradoxes in psychology:

“Be spontaneous”,

“Disobey me.”

Be a Man! would seem to be yet another form, as the one taking orders is not really in power, not really a man, are they?

I would like to submit the hypothesis that when one is not in a sufficiently powerful position that they are susceptible to a charmed loop of didactic incitement. Unlike the classic paradox (para-doxia - two faces), this one seems to split four-way and may more characteristically unfold over time.

Nevertheless, there is no apparent way out, as one proves that the abuse of didactic incitement is justified no matter what recourse is taken:

1. One is a Wimp if they do nothing in response:

The abuse is justified as one proves their own ineffectiveness

2. A Pig if they respond directly:

One justifies the abuse as they reveal their primitive self-interest and lack of restraint.

3. A Dupe if they try to reason and bargain with the inciter:

One justifies the abuse in this case and they risk the hideous result of sharing the best they have with the person(s) treating them the worst.

Forms of having the “10 taken” in a prisoner’s dilemma scenario come into play.

4. A Permanent Puerile Initiate:

The instigator(s)/others can always treat the abuse as a “lesson.”…and one may be left with little choice but to treat the didactic incitement as an experience not that bad at worst or even a necessary lesson, thereby justifying the abuse in this case also.

..hence, the charmed loop of “didactic incitement.”


I’d like to give the readership a clue: It is probably not an impossible situation for the “victim” in most cases – at least not if granted some time. However, that is a benefit to posting on a thread that takes comments – neither am I pretending to have all of the answers - rather, adjustments and insights are welcome.

Posted by DanielS on Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 03:56 AM in
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Posted by Poor Suffering Soul on January 08, 2013, 11:31 AM | #

Yowsa.

Really looking forward to the assembled wisdom.  In the meantime, I can recourse to the late Henny Youngman:

“Take my wife, please!”

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Posted by DanielS on January 08, 2013, 12:00 PM | #

Humor would be one way out, I suppose - now lets try for something that actually is funny..

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Posted by Suburban_elk on January 12, 2013, 01:14 PM | #

the cruelty of didactic incitement

easy there

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Posted by Suburban_elk on January 12, 2013, 01:20 PM | #

this post is very good

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Posted by John Thomas on January 24, 2013, 11:24 AM | #

On Occidental Dissent two posters on Hanging Out With White Mormons equate me with JIM JONES and Cool Aid. Terrible Tommy is right: FREEDOM COMES THRU BLOOD, NOT PAPER. I hope Pastor Martin Lindstedt gives you a good post. We live in the Dark Ages for the White Man. The Ladder Days are HELL:  Joseph Smith and Brigham Young had it right. Young started Deseret—A White State and it got stopped by the Judeo Masons by outlawing Poligamy and making Utah A State. When I talk about a WHITE MORMON HOUSE OF YAHWEH….it really stirs up the pot…  What Martin Lindstedt preaches and my idea of White Mormon House of Yahweh really gets the intellectuals gabbing..Hail Victory…JOHN THOMAS

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Posted by DanielS. on January 24, 2013, 01:41 PM | #

Well, TT may have said that, but he has been through a great deal of “paper” i.e., books and other printed words. I don’t think he is telling anybody to be foolish and ignorant - and he is definitely not advocating any form of Christianity, Identity or otherwise.

However, germane to the post, incitement to Christianity has seemed to hold people in a dilemma: either you reject Christianity and you appear (to some, anyway) as a Jew or Jewish agent, or you adopt Christianity and you treat a Jew as your master and identify with Jews to a significant extent (if not assuming their identity as your own in truth, as Christianity Identity does).

In any form, it is a religion which has many Jewish ingredients. The immersion and identification with Jewish narratives (the OT is mostly Jewish Nationalism) leaves practitioners susceptible to Jewish machinations, perhaps largely because they are overly sympathetic to its subject matter which is entwined with the Jewish religion’s purposes, gods, dragons and demons; and the New Testament, in particular, approves of no way to actively fight back against those machinations.

However, as means for fighting against a hegemony which would exploit didactic incitement, the forming of moral orders in alliance against the hegemony is certainly a likely means to regain power in defense - to overcome the perniciously reconstructing effect that it would have against individuals, especially.

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Posted by John Thomas on January 24, 2013, 02:19 PM | #

Terrible Tommys Lone Wolf Tactics are excellent. Many White Warriors have been Dual Seedline Christian Identity like BRUCE PIERCE and David Tate. Gordon Kahl was an old time Mormon. The original Mormons had alot of good things. Many Wives and children—-like Warren Jeffs. Jeffs is not Dual Seeline Christian Identity but has good points by living it. Wonder what will be said about Pastor Martin Lindstedt and what he teaches. He talks about the implosion of Babylon The Third and Final and what WHIGGERS are, Mamzers, Anglo Metizos and so on. He also has 10000 Warlords Program. His advice is to get off radar with family and friends. And LET NATURE TAKES ITS COURSE…This is the Dark Ages for Whitey—-Ladder Days are hell….Jewish Christanity is crap——White Adamic Christianity is the opposing force. Judeo Masonry is all over the place…..and they are loyal to Rothchilds THE CROWN. In fact—we are all SUBJECTS to these snakes… Think you will be goody good drum drop and change things..I dont think so…Anyway, thanks for letting me post. Majorityrights.com is a good site. I agree with Martin this is good…with alot of views…

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Posted by DanielS. on January 24, 2013, 03:44 PM | #

There are people who have ways of interpreting Christianity that has it in alignment with White interests. Pastor Robb, a Christian Identity pastor, was surprisingly reasonable in interview.

Lindstedt was entertaining to listen to as well, though of course I don’t agree with him either.

I have a close Christian friend.* People can have sophisticated ways of managing interpretation of the texts. You’d have to be pretty creative in your understanding to make Christianity work in reality. Though that route is not for me and I take a position in defense of those who do not find Christianity helpful.


* He tells a couple allegories: one being that Jesus was ironically was not troubled by secular folks, but by the religious peoples and rules; that he had to throw off these rules in order to establish their meta-truth.

In another story, a man teaches the people of northern Europe to make fire; eventually they kill the man; build a religion to him, but forget how to build fire - hence their relation to the teacher but not the lesson.

Fine and good story, but there are too many traps and there is too much self and group abnegation in the religion for me to endorse it.

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Posted by DanielS on January 26, 2013, 04:52 PM | #

For the record, since I have mentioned TT and Tom Robb in the same comment:

I had remembered a Pastor Robb interview and he seemed like an affable fellow.

I had forgotten that TT is at stark odds with him in particular because Robb had apparently denounced The Order as having gotten what they deserved.

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Posted by DanieS on February 27, 2013, 04:00 AM | #

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7o4udq_OrA

“I’ve finally found it
I’m feeling my way all around it
I’m going to surround it

Soon everything’s going to be fine
Hey hey
I can do what I say

I’m lost in a sweet dream
I’m living on chocolate ice cream
I’m letting off my steam

Now everything’s going to be fine
High high
I think I’ll learn how to fly

I went for the rental
Those costumes were so continental
How coincidental

They said everything would be fine
Ho ho
I think I’m ready to go, go, go”...

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Posted by Joe on April 26, 2013, 03:14 PM | #

Looks like some “Charmed Loop of Didactic Incitement” will coming our way for awhile as I honestly connected Communist Jews to the Dasein hippie’s “Antiwar Movement” and the hippie’s “Cultural Revolution” of the 1960’s. Now they’re going to drag Hitler into the story to muddy the waters, to immerse us in the middle of Hegelian Dialectics to further muddy the waters even more.

About Jew Commies in the 1960’s :

http://www.neoeugenics.net/whither.htm

http://www.mortaljourney.com/2011/03/1960-trends/hippie-counter-culture-movement

http://www.larrykuperman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/When-Abbie-Met-Jerry.pdf

If link doesn’t work :

” When Abbie Met Jerry pdf “

About how the Jew Commies use the blacks as weapons and tools against whites, and use the blacks as pawns to further the Jew Commie agenda :

http://manningjohnson.org

Search Terms will access a lot more info about the Jew Commie role in the Anti-War Movement and the Cultural Revolution of the 1960’s ; They both go hand-in-hand and can not be separated as if there two different phenomena. They belong to same exact Dasein Cultural/Social/Political Revolution :

Search Terms :

” Communists In The Hippie Movement”

“Jewish Communists Of The 1960’s”

“Jews + The Anti-War Movement”

Now that the US military is totally controlled by Jews, and the US military is fighting wars totally for Israel’s benefit, I notice there’s no Jewish led anti-war movement as there was in the 1960’s.

  The Jews made such a big stink about being ALL about “peace, love, and understanding” during Vietnam—the Jews were Totally Anti-War during Vietnam— but now that the US military is fighting wars for Israel’s benefit, the Jews are not starting any anti-war movement ;

Quite opposite, the Jews are doing everything they can in the US to stomp on any kind of anti-war movement. Those who try to start an anti-war movement are put on the government “no-fly”  lists and are labeled “terrorists” by the Jews.

The Jews now—now that the US military is fighting wars for Israel’s benefit, and only Israel’s benefit—the Jews now are Totally Pro-War, and anyone who tries to start an anti-war movement is considered to be a terrorist, an enemy of the USA. The exact opposite of what the Jews were saying in the 1960’s :

In the 60’s, the Jews—the Jew “antiwar” leaders and the anti-war protesters—said, shouted,  and relentlessly proclaimed, the government was the enemy and the anti-war protesters were the true patriots. Now it’s the complete opposite, now that the Jews have complete control of the Pentagon, and the US military is fighting Israel’s wars for Israel’s Zionist Empire : Now the Jews who are “full of peace, love and understanding” are Totally PRO-WAR.

 

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Posted by DanielS on April 26, 2013, 03:19 PM | #

Stop spamming these threads, Jew.

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Posted by Joe on April 26, 2013, 04:06 PM | #

@ Graham Lister & DanielS

I’m not one to run away from debate ; And I also don’t stoop so low as to use the device of Didactic Incitement and/or Hegelian Dialectics. I say what I have to say in an honest and straight-forward manner, using source-references to back-up my opinions.

I shall give you both a chance to re-coup as it’s obvious you two can’t prove your points in a straight-forward, honest manner. I’ll give you both a chance to figure out how you’re going to proceed. I’ll be back to continue the debate at my discretion.

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Posted by DanielS on April 26, 2013, 04:24 PM | #

Joe, we do not want to “debate” you because you are not worth talking to.

Why does Tanstaafl also not want to talk with Joe? Because he clearly is not worth it.

Now this worthless piece of dog shit feels empowered to issue ultimatums.

Whoever is allowing Joe to comment here, it is a disservice.

He is just going to deluge every thread with this childish bullshit.

It cannot simply be ignored, he is cheapening and obfuscating discussion.

As he comments here, conversation gets diverted onto his bullshit and away from better considerations.

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