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Selentag and The Twelfth Night The quest for the authentic Christmas Spirit continues with this perspective from Melvin Gorham on what is now known as “The Twelfth Night”. Originally published in 1970 as “The Ancient Story of Selentag” here is the description of the holiday “Selentag” from the revised “Kris Krinkle and The Moon Princess”*:
Last night was celebrated as “The Twelfth Night” among Christian traditions. Under Gorham’s description, it should be January 10th this year. *ISBN 0-914752-29-4 Available from Sovereign Press, 326 Harris Road, Rochester, WA 98579 Comments:2
Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:08 | # I haven’t experienced, in a relatively pure form, Selentag as described by Gorham so I can only speculate as to the adaptive value: There is a sense in which the depth of winter is associated with all-pervasive death. Since the masculine aspect of creation is killing that which needs to be killed—destroying that which needs to be destroyed for new creation, and that aspect is given full force by Nature during the depth of winter, there is little need for individual men to exercise that aspect during that time. Likewise, since the feminine aspect of creation is nurturing that which needs nurturing—preserving that which needs to be preserve to further creation, and that aspect is given very little force by Nature during the depth of winter, there is great need for individual women to exercise that aspect during that time, and for men to support that feminine aspect of creation. As to the particulars of the first twelve nights vs the last twelve nights of the “tide” of Selene (the moon): The social role of host is played by the older children (shielded youth) during the waxing moon which allows them full expression of their innate creativity which is, at that age, beginning social aspects of genetic expression. This not only enhances their growth into fully social adults, it revitalizes traditions from vital genetic forces—life force if you will. By placing this prior to the adults playing host, it holds back stifling influences of tradition. Although Gorham doesn’t specify my speculation is that adolescents are also “older children”. This means the waning moon is primarily for socializing youth in traditions within the context of their own previously expressed creative impulses as a contrast—and to introduce young children to the traditions as a way of providing a cultural framework from which their later genetic expression will creatively depart through the genetic forces of youth. As for the full moon sedentary noon-to-noon, I can imagine that people will have, during the waxing moon, sorted themselves into affinity groups after full opportunity for comparison between the various hosted environments, and that this sorting will provide a degree of social status to the children/young people who most express the authentic force of life/genetics. 3
Posted by John Thomas on Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:08 | # Concerning Moon and Moon Time or Lunar Time check this out: (PDF) Return to the Circle by Pastor Buddy Johnson…..Farmers Alamnac and Morning of The Magacians about Fire and Ice… Even Wiccans know the facts about the Moon and its effects. Keep in mind Joseph Smith on Sept. 21 and 22 Autumn Eqinox… PAY LAY ALE The Raven and the Sweet Odor of Cedar Returns…. JOHN THOMAS 4
Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:05 | # Selentag 2021 begins today. A link to the PDF of the book is at the following link. 5
Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:50 | # Suburban_elk’s question about Frank Herbert’s “Dune” as it relates to my religion simply puzzled me since I had not read “Dune” and was unaware of any plausible correspondences. However, as there was a new cinematic rendition of “Dune” upcoming, and as I have taken to teaching through direct action rather than discourse that is, as evidence most egregiously here at MR, worse than futile, I’ve been listening to audio books for entertainment while I maintain my household in Jan’s absence. So I finally got around to a casual listening to “Dune” a couple of months ago. I’m still puzzled by Suburban_elk’s reference to “orgies”, but one thing that immediately struck me upon hearing it, and on which I immediately (Oct 26, 2021) commented in twitter (copied below), was the perversion of natural duel as it relates to the the urgent necessity we all face in response to a manifest, undeclared, war against us that is destroying everything we most value. It was only in the last week that I randomly hit on another reference to “Dune” here at MR by someone that assumed I was influenced/seduced by that series by Frank Herbert. On the contrary, now that I’m almost done with the entire Dune series, I see Herbert as being more akin to David Brin in his book/film “The Postman”, in that I have more than a little reason to believe both had read and been influenced to react against the works by Harland/Gorham. I believe I may have commented here at MR on Brin’s deliberated perversion of The Seven Points of Agreement Between Individuals graphically displayed in “The Postman” so the following may do the same regarding Herbert’s “Dune”:
To which I would add that the scene in which Stilgar and Paul are required to enter into a duel to decide who shall lead the war is a ridiculous travesty clearly targeting folks like those who comment here at MR so that they immunized against understanding the proper response from someone like Stilgar to Paul’s denunciation of the tradition of dueling as it pertains to forming a group organism to fight an invading group organism. I believe I’ve commented on that here, as well as in numerous audio interviews on the topic (not the least of which is my interview with Kevin MacDonald on “The Moral Individual Vs Acting As One”). All-in-all, I believe Herbert’s life in the Pacific Northwest as a writer brought him into contact with Gorham’s publishing house, even prior to the advent of “Sovereign Press”, thence into contact with that body of work. This, in turn, influenced Brin to read that background material to Herbert’s influential writing and ply his Jewish sensibilities to commit even further mythic violence against the EEA of Europeans. Of course, pointing this out here at MR, where people keep going on about their puerile concepts of “duel” as strawmen to protect them from hearing what I’m saying thence any incisive thought about the evolutionary psychological mechanisms that are being exploited in the war against us—thought that would lead them away from being de facto “wiggers” and toward recognizing how much they have been degraded as the gateway toward further recognizing the true extremes to which they are now called in response—is not going to do much of anything for anyone in the present or even near future. It may, however, provide a valuable archive for future analysts, freed from the psychological hammerlock into which the white race finds itself now subdued.
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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 11 Dec 2021 20:58 | # James, what are your thoughts on this:
“The “Universe 25” experiment is one of the most terrifying experiments in the history of science, which, through the behavior of a colony of mice, is an attempt by scientists to explain human societies. The idea of “Universe 25” Came from the American scientist John Calhoun, who created an “ideal world” in which hundreds of mice would live and reproduce. More specifically, Calhoun built the so-called “Paradise of Mice”, a specially designed space where rodents had Abundance of food and water, as well as a large living space. In the beginning, he placed four pairs of mice that in a short time began to reproduce, resulting in their population growing rapidly. However, after 315 days their reproduction began to decrease significantly. When the number of rodents reached 600, a hierarchy was formed between them and then the so-called “wretches” appeared. The larger rodents began to attack the group, with the result that many males begin to “collapse” psychologically. As a result, the females did not protect themselves and in turn became aggressive towards their young. As time went on, the females showed more and more aggressive behavior, isolation elements and lack of reproductive mood. There was a low birth rate and, at the same time, an increase in mortality in younger rodents. Then, a new class of male rodents appeared, the so-called “beautiful mice”. They refused to mate with the females or to “fight” for their space. All they cared about was food and sleep. At one point, “beautiful males” and “isolated females” made up the majority of the population. According to Calhoun, the death phase consisted of two stages: the “first death” and “second death.” The former was characterized by the loss of purpose in life beyond mere existence — no desire to mate, raise young or establish a role within society. As time went on, juvenile mortality reached 100% and reproduction reached zero. Among the endangered mice, homosexuality was observed and, at the same time, cannibalism increased, despite the fact that there was plenty of food. Two years after the start of the experiment, the last baby of the colony was born. By 1973, he had killed the last mouse in the Universe 25. John Calhoun repeated the same experiment 25 more times, and each time the result was the same. We are currently witnessing direct parallels in today’s society..weak, feminized men with little to no skills and no protection instincts, and overly agitated and aggressive females with no maternal instincts.” Courtesy of Antwan Johnson 7
Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 13 Dec 2021 03:02 | # If the subject is Sci Fi authors , then we should not neglect a personal favourite , A.E. Van Vogt , regarded as a Nazi sympathiser by the Jews of the LA Times. : https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/fix-up-artist-the-chaotic-sf-of-a-e-van-vogt/ 8
Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 17 Dec 2021 21:16 | # Herbert was writing his last Dune novel when he began dying of cancer. I find this particularly interesting because in that last novel there appear signature notions that I associate with Gorham. The most prominent such signature is the identification of cellular consciousness with warfare. Although the novel is largely about the conduct of war the word war appears only a few times and most of the times it appears in the context of cellular consciousness. Of some interest to the readers here is the fact that in no other books of the Dune series, there were six of them, did the word “Jew” appear. There were many references to Jews in this last novel. Among the things that outrages people who investigate Gorham are his association with a manifestly anti-homosexual and anti-Jewish narrative of history. It is also clearly the case that there was a connection between Washington State and Wisconsin involving Sovereign Press—the Wisconsin Sovereign press being associated with a Science Fiction and Fantasy genre. Herbert died in Wisconsin. The Wisconsin association is also elicited by Gorham’s McCarthy style rhetoric regarding communism. Frank Herbert called Senator McCarthy “cousin Joe”. Finally it should be noted that Herbert disowned his gay son. https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/comments/n1b0lk/why_did_frank_herbert_disown_his_son_bruce_calvin/ This contrasts with his other son who is supposed to have completed Herbert’s work on Dune based upon notes that were kept in a safe deposit box. PS: During my decade in San Diego, I attended 2 Scifi conventions during the late 80s as the president of the local chapter of the National Space Society. It was quite nauseating, primarily because of the “sexual” dynamics that were clearly mutilating the development of a lot of the young men. Herbert’s prominence in SciFi is really quite remarkable given how “gay” that subculture is, even those several decades ago. 9
Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 13 Jan 2022 15:10 | # While envisioning a world of peace, obtained in the only way possible—replacing group conflict with loving one’s enemy while in individual formal mortal combat with him—from the audio book of Frank Herbert’s novel “The Godmakers” came this passage: “Worldly use of power can destroy an angel. —NOAH ARKWRIGHT, 10
Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 26 Jan 2022 17:09 | # Of Frank Herbert’s novels “The Heaven Makers” has the most direct reference to Gorham’s work. An example:
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Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 27 Jan 2022 15:29 | # Herbert’s spokes-character is wrong. Without consciousness of Being in the world, which is not being of the world ... not attention-free ... here is no sovereign individual. There are only world-beings telling themselves how terribly different and unique and special they are. “Sovereign” requires appropriation, which requires detachment, which requires attention; and this is so at the level of kind as well as that of the individual man or woman (I say woman, but really, this is a male interest). 12
Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 27 Jan 2022 21:00 | # According to: Affirmation <- Detachment <- Stilling <- Active Attention <- Intent But then Affirmation branches between the individual and ethny at Affirmation, without mention of “Sovereign”. Nor does “Sovereign” appear in the ethnic nationalism structure though it is more elaborated than the transit:
A word I prefer to use in conjunction with “Sovereign” is “Integrity” (Sovereign Integrity being Sovereignty obviously) but also because “Integrate” has its opposing “Disintegrate” that seems to belong in the transit above and below respectively. Also, the Latin derivation means “above”. At the level of ethny, a “Sovereign” is the ethny’s integrity as the ethny’s command and control structure mobilized for war—the state of war being the health of the state as Sovereign superorganism. In statecraft, a useful way to think about “selection” is via the concept of “sovereignty” or “integrity”. Sovereignty is the locus of agency. Integrity — the proper integration of parts into a whole — is in service of that agency. If we are to believe E. O. Wilson’s thesis in “The Social Conquest of Earth”, individual integrity is more compatible with nature’s biodiversity than is group integrity. Another way of putting it might be war—even its continuation by other means such as politics—denudes biodiversity. 13
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 00:09 | #
War. Yep. Look at the consequences of the Libya and Syria military intervention debacles (just to name two). It’s resulting in a continual mass migration of non-whites into Europe. Is it a premeditated consequence? Is the West’s ruling elite’s meddling part-and-parcel of the planned destruction of the White race? Or should we just chalk it up to leadership incompetence? I know it’s not sexy, but I’m convinced it’s the latter. 14
Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 04:54 | # Frank Herbert must not be taken too seriously. GW , it is , as you well know , fiction, and not just that but a fine futuristic speculative example of that genre , and of course Lit Crit maybe , well not quite wrong but subject to debate. The author’s predictive powers may be relevant to say , DanielS ? 15
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 08:45 | # Al Ross. Please shut up. Your remark was completely irrelevant. Totally off the mark as your judgment is wont to be. Why don’t you give it a rest already. Your imperialist/supremacist god, Hitler, got 50 plus million Europeans killed, unnecessarily, stigmatizing ethnonationalism by association with his imperialist supremacism, that included an operation Reinhard the radioactivity of which that you would compound with your idiotic denial (I “believe in Operation Reinhard like a child believes in Paul Bunyan”?); support GW’s narcissistic personality disorder project, gaslighting and strawmanning program, against another target, ok dickhead? 16
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 08:56 | # radioactivity of which I corrected that for you, Al, since you always see relevance in ‘important matters’ such un edited errors of syntax. 17
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 16:58 | # OK, James, some very quick observations ...
The Transit is ontological. So Affirmation is the state of Being which underlies the rather more sociological reification of the Sovereign (“sociological” by its world-facing aspect). That aspect is not, therefore, “the same as” a being perfectly in a state of self-affirmation, ie, a being which has found its authenticity ... found itself as itself. But it is informed by it. The root does need to penetrate. In the absence of that penetration what we would have is a social (artificial) entity: the usurper inflicting violence and submission upon the world to attain the outer status of a sovereign.
Principles derive/emerge. Ontology grounds. There is the difference between the two structures. Their journey is the same, of course, and is oft-times close enough for states to be abstrated into principles with little essential change to them. In both cases, the progression halts on the “firm” or empirical side of the unbridgeable fissure, across which lies all religious and philo-political purposivity. Destining is the limit of actual potential for group-consciousness. The end of the ascription of “I” and what is commonly called “Union with the All” is the limit of the individual-consciousness.
In my lexicon integration is the beneficial accident of life’s cellular Creation. Being blind to the subjective, and knowing nothing of benefit or quality or difference, indeed, being quite without sight or plan or purpose of any kind, the cold, mechanical forces of the universe operate, as they always have and always will, as continuous disintegrators. Integrity, therefore, is the condition of integration by which life enters upon existence and, while it struggles against disintegration, sustains itself. For the struggle is Manichean. It can never be won. It can only be continued. Now, the principle of integration may echo and extend, and enter places where it may influence life’s struggle, even to the extent of materialising in the most overt moral form. In which case we may both justly lay claim to it. Which would be nice.
So the above reflection on integration takes us away from the question of identity and towards the question of the survival and continuity of the organism. It might be possible to mesh them together in the existential struggle of war. But it would take a brave man to try it, and I’ll duck that one for now!
I’m not sure I would agree with Wilson. Selection, as a chosen modus of genetic transmission (chosen like flow, as opposed to the unchosen mutation and drift) only has agency in any centred, willed sense in so much as there is authenticity in the lived-life to commend adaptive choices. Otherwise, selection becomes just another source of error and ethnic disintegration. But perhaps we are talking at cross-purposes here. 18
Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 29 Jan 2022 14:38 | # Perhaps I’m misunderstood when I speak of sovereign agency vs selection. To first order, sovereign agency is selected by what you would call “beneficial accident”. Only to second order (that I didn’t intend on bring up in that passage) does sovereign agency select. By second order I mean the organism, so-selected, achieves a level of integration at which it is not only agent of is own propagation and survival, but it becomes an agent of evolution: Man, the moral animal. But that second order of Being is unnecessary for the discussion of “sovereignty” in my intended meaning. The cricket, unsubverted by the gordian worm to dive into the water there to die so the gordian worm may burst forth to the next stage in its life cycle, may be “sovereign”. We also get into confusion when we fail to distinguish “unit of selection” (correlation structure) from “vehicle of selection” (integrated organism). A correlation structure makes it into the next generation more or less on its own in cooperation with other correlation structures (e.g. a selfish gene “incentivised” by unbiased meiotic lottery to cooperate with other selfish genes). A vehicle of selection is a particular cooperative alliance between correlation structures (e.g. organism) that either succeeds of fails to replicate its constituent correlation structures. It is this vehicle (the collective result of the cooperative alliance) that is being selected. 19
Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 17:56 | #
Well, in another essay I wrote: ... within that first, faint trace of a separation from the disintegrating lay a trace, fainter still, of the essence for continuity, interposing itself in the universal fabric, elaborating itself in whatever way will secure the light. A few paras later I wrote of this essence that it: preserves its difference only as long as it engages in a Manichean struggle with the blind and profane, homogenising forces without. But that engagement limits homogeny’s realm and the priorness of existence is universal no more. Within its own bold confines essence is now prior, for so long as essence differentiates itself existence is made contingent upon and a function of it. So there is some basis for extending this priorness of “the essence for continuity” over “homogeny’s realm” to “sovereign agency” over the evolutionary process, given that evolution is already contesting with “homogeny”. It would involve a substantial conceptual change to do it, though, moving from cause to process. I think that could be quite a fraught endeavour; not least because adaptation is such a reactive process, and the formation of selection targets is so inchoate and mechanical that the descriptor “sovereign agency” may simply be too masculine and strong. Here, for instance:
... you carry the idea almost to an identitarian level of causality. I’m not sure I see the need for it, given my ontological approach to cause which does not change at any point in the developing structure and, in due time, sits within an undetailed “landscape of confined multiplicity, of the particular, and of the qualitative; and more than that, of the constantly differentiating and refining into an ever more specific and elaborate multiplicity”. All of it “elaboration forced by the disintegrating action of the mechanical universe”. It is the contest between “the essence for continuity” and “cold state of mechanics” which manifests in the Transit, and which explains the fall of man and his redemption, which the Transit configures. The same contest informs the upward direction of flow of the left-hand column of the chart of principles. Whether one should introduce sovereignty to it, and how and where one might do it, is not yet clear to me. Finally, I think you are saying that the “unit of selection” is not to be confused with a particular target of selection. Where is the sovereign? What is the sovereign? Please correct me if I am wrong. But technically, is this much more than a means of distinguishing between genotype and phenotype? Clarification and connection to the wider discussion is required, I’m afraid. 20
Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 02:39 | # Please do not be so emotional , DanielS. You are not a serious person , simply an overwrought purveyor of not very much at all and when your nugatory intellectual content offering is disproved by GW you become amusingly agitated. Don’t go away . Everyone needs light relief. 21
Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 03:39 | # Daniel S , while you have frequented this blog you have picked up some intellectual small change from GW. You have obviously misspent it while simultaneously devaluing the filched currency. 22
Posted by DanielS on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 05:35 | # Al Ross, you are entirely full of shit. I have gained almost nothing from GW (as there is not that much to gain, other than a few nudges toward emergentism, which is not already fairly obvious), and quite the opposite: my platform is the sound and necessary platform for advocating European peoples, abundant with important ideas, many of them original, of my own, and has prevailed, as it would, over his obnoxious obstruction and antagonism that would endlessly gaslight (as you are trying to do now) and stawman as a function of his narcissistic personality disorder, ensconced in a puerile autobiography primarily serving the reactionary project of his unmerited, gargantuan ego. 23
Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 06:37 | # Daniel S. One must speak as one finds. I have been interacting with GW for quite some time . GW is an English gentleman who , were he not such , might have ,in my far from humble opinion, with regards to your continued presence , emulated Churchill and uttered the words ” Up with this I will not put”. 24
Posted by DanielS on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 06:54 | # Al Ross, your opinion matters not to me. You are very dishonest. 25
Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 08:43 | # “Nought” to you ? Dishonest ? No , Churchill actually said it. When did Community Colleges commence PhD courses , anyway ? 26
Posted by DanielS on Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:10 | # Lets let ‘Your Honesty’ believe that I went to community college so that you might be done with it then, your bereavement over the loss of your idol, Hitler, and you might finally get a life. 27
Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 01 Feb 2022 11:22 | # My dedication to Hitler , another imaginary figment like your putative failed doctorate , was mentioned some time ago. So for you, here’s a reprise : I have learned more from GW than from Herr Hitler. This is a bad answer , judging from your jihad agin GW . I am a much misunderstood man. Just as Enoch Powell was described. 28
Posted by DanielS on Tue, 01 Feb 2022 11:38 | # Al, don’t worry about my having abandoned pursuit of a doctorate (as a diversion from what needed to be done); take care of yourself and get over your commitment to Hitler, which is part and parcel of your commitment to the reactionary, gaslighting, narcissistic personality disorder case that you also have so much reverence for that you’ve backed his insane jihad (in the form of vain attempts to deconstruct whatever I say, no matter how correct, good, or necessary even, for European peoples to understand). 29
Posted by Al Ross on Tue, 01 Feb 2022 11:51 | # I have reviewed your comment. As the girl in the Las Vegas bordello said on your last Sin City visit : ” Well , when it’s all you got , it ain’t too bad.” 30
Posted by DanielS on Tue, 01 Feb 2022 13:13 | # ...never been to Las Vega, Al. Don’t worry about me. Take care of yourself. Watcha doin’ there in Thailand? Never mind, you can still function as GW’s flying monkey while mixing it up with the ladyboys. 31
Posted by Al Ross on Mon, 07 Feb 2022 02:53 | # Ladyboys , eh ? Well , DanielS , when you visit Bangkok I’ll bet you’ll be transfixed. In earlier times passport information included the holder’s occupation . For you it would have been a wasted trip to the Orient once the Thai immigration officer had sight of your passport : Jack Off - All Trades. 32
Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 28 May 2022 14:27 | # Herbert’s “The Santaroga Barrier” is heavily influenced by Heidegger. From the Wikipedia review:
What struck me was some of the phraseology so-closely resembled Jill von Konen’s in “Camp 38”, that I had to wonder if “Camp 38” “secluded community” was modeled as a response to Herbert’s Santaroga—where the barrier was achieved by paranormal means, obviating the need for normal seclusion. The paranormal role played by “Jaspers” is characterized in that Wikipedia article as evincing a “hive mind”—however my idea (repeatedly misunderstood here at MR) of authentic individuality is that it is, indeed, an aspect of a “hive mind” rooted in sexuality as an immortal ecological consciousness with individual, embodied, mortal thoughts—where one half of that immortal sexual consciousness creates a “barrier”—a barrier enforced with aggressive individual force—to gene flow between demes thereby creating species. 33
Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:43 | # Coming up on Selentag and the “spirit” of the season, it is appropriate to point out that what that virulent Jew, Jay Gould, described as “non-overlapping magisteria”—the religion vs science divide—is “non-overlapping” precisely because it is to the advantage of Jewish virulence to keep us divided—not just from each other as an ethny but to keep our very Being divided. That the Jewish Being is not so (or at least _as_) divided is what makes them operate as a collective without having to engage in “conspiracy” in order to achieve things that more individualistic peoples can only achieve through “conspiracy”. We have, in our midsts, both “religious” and “scientific” folks who serve as watchdogs to ensure that if we ever start actually engaging in work that achieves a unification, we are immediately subjected to scorn and/or condemnation. From the “religious” side, we are engaging unauthorized, hence “evil”, spirits. From the “scientific” side, we are “crackpots” for taking seriously the possibility of such things as paranormal phenomena. It should not surprise us that certain intelligence agencies are permitted to cross these divides and it should, therefore, not be surprising that these are highly controlled environments were Jews are dominant. IF we are serious about such things as “the mind body problem”, “technology and modernity”, “identity”, and so forth, we had best be extremely suspicious of those within our ranks who inhibit our work in crossing this divide, whether in the name of “religion” or in the name of “science”. 34
Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 06 Dec 2022 10:48 | # James @ 32: the barrier was achieved by paranormal means, obviating the need for normal seclusion I believe that this is covered by the esoteric ↔ exoteric model. In that particular case, the exact means of unconcealing from concealment is an epiphany, given only rarely in life in the exoteric circle. This epiphany brings to light the truth that “reality” is from attententional detachment from that psychological All which is acquired via our enworldment, which All operates with the mechanical intentionality of consciousness (ie, that intentionality dear to phenomenologists), calling itself “I” all the while. This “I” may seek God most sincerely. It may go to church and take the sacraments. It may go on retreats. It may strive to live simply and morally in the world. It may read books on spirituality and seek improvement of its “self”. It may sometimes affect wisdom and knowledge, and even teach others. Or it may do none of those things. But everything is still of the exoteric, and has the same essential value as everything else there, spiritual or not. With the epiphany, however, the esoteric lies open and with it the experiential fact that “God” is I, yes, but also the too too human knowing that there is no lived permanence here. Only this God can know its own fallenness. Only I can know, and love, “I”. The exoteric surely reclaims its subject, and knowing and love are surely gone until he or she remembers attentionality again. 35
Posted by Timothy Murray on Sat, 10 Dec 2022 21:22 | # Note to self: Its right there in the left men bar start with “Ontological Project” This is an interesting community. Thanks for your patience. Post a comment:
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Posted by Suburban_elk on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 01:47 | #
Metaphors which are not metaphors; but i would ask you to spell it out. What is their adaptive value.
There was a time, people forgot their grudges? Do you care for Herbert, he reflects some of your ideas (the Fremen had their orgies).
Is this a necessary mode for a healthy community, to give it up for a fortnight? Who would object; i guess those who control the usual pressure points. I liked by the way, your explanation on the “old” origin of the “Christmas” mythos. (Is that the right use of mythos?)