Time “not appropriate” for new party, says Brons

Posted by Guessedworker on Saturday, 22 October 2011 23:51.

“Parallel Party Structure” to Be Formed,” said the headline on BNP Ideas website.  It wasn’t what most of us were expecting.  The pre-meeting articles at BNP Ideas talked about setting up not only a new party but a think-tank.  Party policy was written about.  Given the entrenched position of Griffin in the BNP and the huge financial and legal problems his party faces, there seemed no likelihood that tonight we would be looking at the status quo.  But here we are.

Or nearly.  BNP Ideas has this to say:

A parallel party structure, tasked with building up supporters, a database, a leadership core and making overtures to other nationalists and parties along with creating all the essential elements required to run a party, is to be formed in terms of a majority decision taken at today’s BNP Ideas conference in Leicestershire.

... Mr Brons said he felt the time was not appropriate for the creation of a new party, and that it was better to rather create a parallel structure which could step in to pick up the pieces should the BNP’s current infrastructure collapse, or, if a certain minimum of signed up supporters (Mr Brons said 1,500 would be a suitable figure) was obtained, in which case a new party might become viable.

Less than that, Mr Brons said, and a new party would “nose dive” which would give the Griffin-controlled BNP an undeserved victory.

... Finally, the meeting was asked to vote on three specific proposals: to stay in the BNP and seek to replace Nick Griffin by legal internal means; to create a new party; and to create a parallel structure.

A handful of people voted for a new party, but the vast majority of those present voted to create the parallel structure. The organisation will take into consideration all of the proposals made by delegates, and further announcements will be made on this website in due course.



Comments:


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Posted by bombkangaroo on Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:46 | #

Good on them I say. No point throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
Given recent events concerning Mr Griffin and his court bills this seems a sensible strategy for preparing to take over the brand without rocking the boat too much.


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Posted by Dan Dare on Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:26 | #

One wonders what value remains in a brand that has been reduced to the P&G Rely of the political marketplace.


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Posted by Alaric on Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:12 | #

Lying tub of shit Gri££in blew up an entirely useful political organization by selling out to jews. Thanks a lot, you bumbling idiot.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:36 | #

Alaric,

Griffin hasn’t “sold out” to anybody.  Since the start of Dowson’s brief tenure he has been trying to screw every available penny out of his supporters.  It has become a standing joke.  Where are these “Jews” who have bought him?  And if you don’t know, why the hell are you running around posting your dumb commentary as if you did?


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Posted by Marcus on Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:26 | #

Off topic, but whatever happened to James Bowery? Does he not blog here anymore?


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Posted by GenoType on Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:36 | #

Well, I don’t know.

This article had a great Google Earth graphic of English row housing.  Old-fashioned house-to-house canvassing and political “marches” have a lot of point in that sort of human space.  It seems to us (XPWA and I) that who owns those houses and receives the mortgage payments - if any - should be a point of no little interest.  <u>It is in most places on Earth.</u>

Few places in the USA, on the other hand, are that densely settled.  Very few of our densely populated areas have a majority of white people.  If we learned anything from Jim Giles’ campaigns it was the importance of “mechanized political warfare” in North America, should we ever reenter a partisan political campaign.

As XPWA and I see it the greater issue is how to reduce the proportion of graying white heads in the audience shown here

And whether GW likes it or not we are at the National Socialist propositional moment:  that is the question as to whether the current State (i.e. political economy) is or can ever again be the political instrumentality and safeguard of the biological nation.  It is useful to remember that no matter what one chooses to believe about National Socialism it was, at root, about restoring the German State to the German Nation. 

Everything has gone too far to accomplish this in North America.  There is no “nation” to coincide with the government.  There is only a multi-racial empire.  Perhaps, GW, it is not too late to try the national socialist approach in Britain.

 

 


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Posted by GenoType on Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:39 | #

Oops!  The link for “national socialist approach” was intended to go here.


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Posted by Graham_Lister on Mon, 24 Oct 2011 04:05 | #

This might be of general interest:

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)” by Robert Paxton

Fascism as ultimately counter-revolutionary reaction but an excellent analysis of the general political phenomenon. If time permits I might write something about Paxton’s work.


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Posted by Jimmy Marr on Mon, 24 Oct 2011 04:40 | #

If time permits I might write something about Paxton’s work.

Give us a break, Graham. We know damn well you’re not in Bible camp.


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Posted by Dan Dare on Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:24 | #

We shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that the ‘national-socialist approach’ from the late 20s up to 1933 was a completely different animal from both before or thereafter.

Kershaw points out that in the 1932 Reichstag election women voted for the NSDAP in equal proportion to men, something unheard of until that point. Prior to 1932, women had shied away from voting for the more radical, ‘scarier’ factions whether of the right or left, nationalists might find value in a careful study of how and and why that sea-change came about.


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Posted by thom on Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:00 | #

whatever happened to James Bowery?

James Bowery is in jail for killing the VP of IT Operations for Mid-State Office Suppply in trial by combat at TGI Friday’s. He dunked his head in an open vat of Thousand Island Dressing and drowned him.


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Posted by Leon Haller on Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:32 | #

Why does the BNP aspire to being a genuine, comprehensive party? I’ve asked this before. Why can’t the BNP or a successor just position itself as a single-issue anti-immigration party. Isn’t that what UKIP does re the EU question?


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Posted by Alaric on Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:58 | #

Guessedworker,

When you start going around telling White English that an Indian, a Paki or an Arab is just as English as they and that your political struggle has nothing to do with race - that’s de facto selling out to jews.

In case it wasn’t obvious.


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Posted by Ex-Pro White Activist on Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:27 | #

We shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that the ‘national-socialist approach’ from the late 20s up to 1933 was a completely different animal from both before or thereafter.

That is beyond any rational dispute.

Kershaw points out that in the 1932 Reichstag election women voted for the NSDAP in equal proportion to men, something unheard of until that point. Prior to 1932, women had shied away from voting for the more radical, ‘scarier’ factions whether of the right or left, nationalists might find value in a careful study of how and and why that sea-change came about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program#The_25-point_Program_of_the_NSDAP

First, at least 12 of these 25 points were directly related to various aspects of “economics”.  A number of the rest had immediate economic implications.  The Nazi “Local Groups” made these economic planks a principal focus of their electoral appeal.

Second, they are all clearly and concisely written.  The entire program takes up less than 1/2 the space occupied by just one of Leon Haller’s average posts.

Third, there was a logical cause-effect relationship between the achievement of various tasks and the results to be expected afterward.


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Posted by Jimmy Marr on Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:11 | #

The entire program takes up less than 1/2 the space occupied by just one of Leon Haller’s average posts.

Apparently the scoring criteria for the verbal section of the GRE have been streamlined to a simple word-count.

All hail the reign of quantity.


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Posted by Graham_Lister on Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:22 | #

Off Topic but more on the rancid state of the UK & black crime.

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

The over-representation of young black men in youth jails comes despite a sharp fall in the number of children and young people in custody that has already led to the closure of five YOIs, including a specialist unit for young women.

The total population of the youth justice “secure estate”, which includes eight male YOIs and three specialist units for girls and young women, continued to fall from 1,977 in March 2010 to 1,822 this March, before this summer’s riots.

Hardwick says, however, that the number of black and minority ethnic children in custody has not fallen at the same rate as the number of white children being locked up.

“Between 2007 and 2011 there was a 37% reduction in white children in custody, compared with a 16% reduction in black and ethnic minority children,” says the report.

The report does not discuss the reasons why young black people make up an ever greater proportion of the shrinking youth jail population. But Hardwick does note that an increasing number – 53% now, compared with 39% last year – of young men are being sent to prison for the first time.


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Posted by Jimmy Marr on Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:37 | #

The report does not discuss the reasons why young black people make up an ever greater proportion of the shrinking youth jail population.

Obviously, institutional racism is on the rise again, probably due to influence of websites like this one. angry


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Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:39 | #

Alaric,

If the only way you can tell the world that the English (not “White English - there are no non-white English) are not “Indian, a Paki or an Arab” is by using non-legal terminology or making unsubstantiated claims about Nick Griffin, you’re no use to anyone.

Speak and write well and use sensible arguments.


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Posted by Alaric on Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:14 | #

I speak and write well, but sensible arguments are of no use to anyone in a political fight. Do the jews use sensible arguments to justify their flooding of our White nations with impulsive, parasitic mongrels? Of course not. Emotion is what we need. Learn from the winners, i.e. jews and Nazis, not from the losers, i.e. traitor Griffins and clownversatives. A million footnotes won’t get these nationwrecking little bastards out of our countries. Getting people agitated against the filthy, swindling kikes will.


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Posted by Silver on Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:47 | #

Emotion is what we need.

Getting people agitated against the filthy, swindling kikes will.

That gets you plenty of emotion, all right—only it’s the wrong sort.

“Smash the kikes!”  “Get these niggers out of here!”  The only thing that does, for the most part (for now), is confirm for people that “racism is alive and well.”  You’re the sort of boy that their mothers warned them about.* Even for the minority of people that this attitude reaches, fat lot of good it does if, lacking the moral confidence to run with it, they keep their feelings to themselves.  You don’t necessarily have to be coldly rational, or cute, or heavily footnoted.  But you do require something that people are receptive to, otherwise you’re just not in the game.

If I were Nick Griffin I would have gone on—what was it?—‘Question Time’ (or whatever) with something like: “Why is a BNP necessary?  The short answer is: because ‘whites are people, too.’  The policies that our country [meaning Britain, here], other European countries, and countries farther abroad like the United States, Canada and Australia, have been following only make sense if whites aren’t people.  Blacks, Asians, Muslims—to name only a few groups—are people, but not whites.  If that’s the case, if the only use for white people is to serve the needs of others, then yes, you’d flood white countries with largely incompatible immigration; you’d rubbish their culture; you’d deny them any sense of collective interest; you’d silence any dissent.  If whites aren’t people too then all this would make sense.  [pause] But if whites are people too—[pause for effect]—then the policies that this (and related countries) have followed over the past sixty years—and particularly over the last twenty or thirty—are at the very least highly questionable; some of us say, completely wrongheaded.”

Now, he may not have had the chance to get all that out, but if that was the attitude he went in with, if that was the message he intended to get across, then I think he could have gotten the bulk of it out there and quite likely had the opportunity to elaborate on the finer points. 

That message establishes two things: the reason something is wrong; and the reason to put it right. If people assent to that, the rest of the details will essentially fill themselves in. If they can’t even assent to that, then the only thing your ‘emotional’ exhortations are going to assure is that you yourself will become the footnote.

*Why do you suppose “that’s racist!” works so well on whites?  I would say it’s because the vast majority of whites carry some degree of latent racial feeling, or know (or know of) someone who carries a good deal more than that.  “That’s racist!” makes them feel at risk of being ‘exposed.’  Knowing that ‘hardcore’ racists exist out there enables them to feel that ‘at least I’m not like that.’  The upshot is a (seemingly) neverending acquiescence to the demands that attach to “that’s racist!”


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Posted by dc on Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:08 | #

To cut to the core, there is only one programme with any hope of success:

1. Silence the jew.

2. Wogs out.

Everyone here should read or reread William Joyce. If you can spare a little more time you will find that something approximating the National Socialist programme is the only sensible way to proceed. Where are the Mitfords when you need them?


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Posted by Graham_Lister on Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:30 | #

Just caught ‘Newsnight’ on the BBC - according to them:

UK population will officially hit 70 million by 2025.

47% of that growth will be due to migration to the country.

There is a ‘baby-boom’ in the UK but 25% of live births in England & Wales are now to mothers born outside the country.

HOW did we allow this madness? Even on purely practical grounds this is deeply flawed public policy.

I wonder why Enoch Powell is a name that has been written out of British political discourse?


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Posted by Leon Haller on Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:04 | #

To cut to the core, there is only one programme with any hope of success:

1. Silence the jew.

2. Wogs out. (dc)

And how is this done, to cut to the core?


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Posted by dc on Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:33 | #

Leon,

I understand that you are an idiot, tolerated for the sake of amusement.

I do not know how best to close the jew mouth, but it would seem the National Socialists had the best approach.

Now do take a break from your religious idiocy and read a little Treitschke.


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Posted by Captainchaos on Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:35 | #

at least 12 of these 25 points were directly related to various aspects of “economics”.  A number of the rest had immediate economic implications.  The Nazi “Local Groups” made these economic planks a principal focus of their electoral appeal.

You strike me as being a thinking man.  Would you personally wish, all else being equal, for yourself and your family to live under a totalitarian regime, XPWA?  Yes, yes, I know, “all else” is rarely “equal”, yet that is not the question I asked you.


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:44 | #

I thought we already did.


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Posted by Leon Haller on Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:19 | #

dc,

I have written much for several years. Show me something of substance you have written, and we will see who is smarter (unfortunately, there are so few subtle intellects around here that there really is no appropriate arbitrators to decide such matters.

I like Treitschke btw, though I only know him second hand. I wouldn’t mind reading him directly someday. I prefer his precursor Friedrich List.


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Posted by Graham_Lister on Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:52 | #

I have written much for several years. Show me something of substance you have written, and we will see who is smarter (unfortunately, there are so few subtle intellects around here that there really is no appropriate arbitrators to decide such matters.

Yes of course Leon. GW et al., our genuine, kosher even, Übermensch has spoken. We are not worthy. BTW the economic data that was brought up on the other thread - of course one can find objectively better places to live both economically and in respect of a myriad of other quality of life indicators than the good old USA. I know Republican blowhards hate to hear that USA is not #1 but try for example; Switzerland, Denmark, Norway, Japan, Singapore for starters. However general ignorance, let alone mere empirical evidence, have never got in the way of American self-delusion have they?

 


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Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:36 | #

Don’t speak too soon on that USA no.1 thing, Graham.  Apparently, five years from now it’s all going to come good:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/8844646/World-power-swings-back-to-America.html

World power swings back to America

The American phoenix is slowly rising again. Within five years or so, the US will be well on its way to self-sufficiency in fuel and energy. Manufacturing will have closed the labour gap with China in a clutch of key industries. The current account might even be in surplus.

Assumptions that the Great Republic must inevitably spiral into economic and strategic decline - so like the chatter of the late 1980s, when Japan was in vogue - will seem wildly off the mark by then.

Telegraph readers already know about the “shale gas revolution” that has turned America into the world’s number one producer of natural gas, ahead of Russia.

Less known is that the technology of hydraulic fracturing - breaking rocks with jets of water - will also bring a quantum leap in shale oil supply, mostly from the Bakken fields in North Dakota, Eagle Ford in Texas, and other reserves across the Mid-West.

“The US was the single largest contributor to global oil supply growth last year, with a net 395,000 barrels per day (b/d),” said Francisco Blanch from Bank of America, comparing the Dakota fields to a new North Sea.

Total US shale output is “set to expand dramatically” as fresh sources come on stream, possibly reaching 5.5m b/d by mid-decade. This is a tenfold rise since 2009.

The US already meets 72pc of its own oil needs, up from around 50pc a decade ago.

“The implications of this shift are very large for geopolitics, energy security, historical military alliances and economic activity. As US reliance on the Middle East continues to drop, Europe is turning more dependent and will likely become more exposed to rent-seeking behaviour from oligopolistic players,” said Mr Blanch.

Meanwhile, the China-US seesaw is about to swing the other way. Offshoring is out, ‘re-inshoring’ is the new fashion.

“Made in America, Again” - a report this month by Boston Consulting Group - said Chinese wage inflation running at 16pc a year for a decade has closed much of the cost gap. China is no longer the “default location” for cheap plants supplying the US.

A “tipping point” is near in computers, electrical equipment, machinery, autos and motor parts, plastics and rubber, fabricated metals, and even furniture.

“A surprising amount of work that rushed to China over the past decade could soon start to come back,” said BCG’s Harold Sirkin ...

There’s no explanation how America will avoid “rent-seeking behaviour from oligopolistic players”.  But, that aside, an American economic recovery would set a further challenge to WN.


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Posted by Graham_Lister on Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:21 | #

GW - I have no doubt that America still has enormous wealth but it is becoming a radically dysfunctional society (in a Chris Hedges style way). No amount of natural gas by itself can overcome the ever growing extent of any number of social pathologies. Panglossian optimism is of course a very old trope in American political/cultural life. Time will tell as the demographic chickens come home to roost (which will occur in a relatively short time).


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Posted by danielj on Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:56 | #

Unfortunately, I see the very same pathologies on the Isle.

Never been to a Scandinavian country. My hunch is that we stand or fall together. Whites are a small and shrinking global minority.


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Posted by Jimmy Marr on Fri, 28 Oct 2011 04:56 | #

Never been to a Scandinavian country.


Modern day Swedish Nazis


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Posted by Leon Haller on Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:53 | #

Yes of course Leon. GW et al., our genuine, kosher even, Übermensch has spoken. We are not worthy. BTW the economic data that was brought up on the other thread - of course one can find objectively better places to live both economically and in respect of a myriad of other quality of life indicators than the good old USA. I know Republican blowhards hate to hear that USA is not #1 but try for example; Switzerland, Denmark, Norway, Japan, Singapore for starters. However general ignorance, let alone mere empirical evidence, have never got in the way of American self-delusion have they?

(Lister)

There is something slightly retarded about Lister. He keeps ascribing ridiculous opinions to me, and then refuting them. When have I ever said USA is #1? Of course we’re doomed, but so are you in Europe (at least UK). Of course much of Europe for now is better - hello? You are WHITER!!! (We are still racialists, right, Graham? Or have you now completed your Long March to de Benoist-style acceptance of Third World ethnocommunitarianism within Europe, provided of course everyone agrees that the real threat is .... (right-Hayekian) Americanism?) 

USA is ever crummier because we are both increasingly nonwhite (but, Haller, forget immigration ... it’s The Jews! The Jews!), and increasingly socialist (but Haller, that makes you a ... (gasp) libertarian!).

But Britain will fall before America. If the s—- that was pulled this summer had happened in USA, at least outside of specifically black neighborhoods, there would have been a bloodbath (though I think the cops would have put an end to that ludicrous hooliganism before matters got so completely out of hand). Britain is in worse shape than USA in at least three ways:

1. you do not have a well-armed white sub-population

2. you have been invaded by the very worst of all nonwhites: Muslims (as well as an unhealthy share of Africans). We have terrible black problems, which we inherited; you imported yours. We also have a growing and dangerous Islamic presence. But ours is not as well established as yours, not nearly as large proportionally, and there is a lot of antagonism to Muslims generally - greater it seems than in UK.

3. For reasons I cannot wholly fathom, the kingdom which once produced the globe-bestriding redcoats today consists of some of the most culturally enervated, anomic, poorly mannered, racially obsequious and brainwashed whites to be found anywhere. What percentage of white Brits want the death penalty? the convict work gang? the restoration of gun rights? and end to immigration? closing down mosques? etc?

The bottom line is that whites are dying off everywhere. White majorities are racially worthless everywhere (with the possible exceptions of small places like Serbia or South Africa). I do think that outside of perhaps Russia, the USA has the largest absolute number of tough, conservative, and survival oriented whites. Certainly, we have the largest absolute number who also have a degree of wealth and therefore the possibility of future survivalist activism. 

Anyway, intrawhite hostility and ethnic divisiveness ought to be banned from the site.

 


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Posted by Ex-Pro White Activist on Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:06 | #

Apparently, five years from now it’s all going to come good:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/8844646/World-power-swings-back-to-America.html

I saw that article earlier.  AEP’s analysis included this bit of Judeo-Boasian b.s.:

“It is almost the only economic power with <u>a fertility rate above 2.0</u> - and therefore the ability to outgrow debt - in sharp contrast to the demographic decay awaiting Japan, China, Korea, Germany, Italy, and Russia.”

Which population components are growing so strongly that the USA has a fertility rate above 2.0?  And which will supposedly permit the USA to avoid the demographic deflationary trap inherent to debt-backed monetary schemes.  According to AEP all the humanoids are fungible and a vast population of illiterate mestizos, Afro-Euro mongrels (Survey sez an average of 28% white) and immigrants from every 3d World dung heap will make a world leading economy.  This magic has yet to be seen to work in New Orleans, Detroit and all of California.

 

 

 


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Posted by Ex-Pro White Activist on Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:26 | #

But, that aside, an American economic recovery would set a further challenge to WN.

GW, how on Earth did you ever reach this conclusion?  The modern White Internet Literary non-Movement doesn’t have a political-economic program.  And its leading 10 watt bulbs have never seen a need for any economic program beyond liberal placement of PayPal “donate” buttons linked to their own accounts on the web pages.

The complete absence of any economic dimension has gotten the non-Movement where it is today.  Communists, Nazis, socialists and libertarians all coexist without serious friction.  It might be nice if this sort of tolerant big tent atmosphere could be implemented with religion.

In an alternate reality world - one where WNs recognized that “Economics” and economic concerns dominate 729 straight days in between each federal Congressional election - I might agree with you.  Even granting that AEP is partly right I still can’t see how it will affect the non-Movement adversely.  In fact the present leadership probably hopes he’s right.  Their stock jobbery, real estate speculation, donation and books & trinkets peddling businesses will undoubtedly benefit if the Judeoconomy revives a bit.


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Posted by Papa Luigi on Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:59 | #

As one of those who attended the Leicester meeting, I can report that at the outset there was in my opinion a clear majority in favour of launching a new political party.

Myself and a number of colleagues however are of the opinion that while it is important that those disillusioned and disenchanted by Griffin’s mismanagement of the BNP stay together as a group, it would be folly to launch yet another new nationalist party to compete against the rump of the BNP and the half dozen or so other nationalist micro-parties that have been started by disenchanted BNP activists in recent months. Competition between these micro-parties will split the nationalist vote and will ensure that electioneering remains a desert for nationalists until such time as natural selection thins out the number of nationalist parties substantially, over perhaps the next three to five years.

For nationalists to have any chance of success in major elections, it will require us to first acquire considerably more by way of assets, manpower and money than we have at present.

Secondly we must wait as I have already suggested for attrition to reduce the number of competing nationalist parties, so that the nationalist vote is not split.

Thirdly, we need to connect with our demographic support base through cultural and social activity and through advocacy and pastoral care for the White people within our local communities.

Lastly we need to begin a ‘counter march’ ‘through the institutions’ in order to strengthen our position within the existing political power structure, and this last requirement will possibly take decades before substantial advances are made.

All of this will take time and it will take a monumental effort on the part of enlightened nationalists if we are to inspire our comrades to take this action and get them to hold their nerve long enough for us to make sufficient progress in the extra-parliamentary spheres, such that we do not go off half-cock in yet another convulsion of ill-prepared and premature activity.

As it was, last Saturday we networked energetically during the meeting and as time passed, speaker after speaker began to sing from our hymn sheet, and by the end of the meeting there was almost unanimous support for the more long-sighted and measured approach that I describe.

Far from being a damp squib, last Saturday’s meeting was a resounding victory for the nexus of new, young, nationalist leaders that are beginning to coalesce, with the support of older wiser heads to guide them, and both the energy and the ability to exercise influence when it is required.

Take my word for it, a new movement with a structure never before seen in British politics is under construction, and as 2012 unfolds that new movement will progressively emerge to overwhelm both the rump of the BNP and the other ill equiped and ill-prepared micro-parties that currently threaten to impede our progress.

Last Saturday saw the death of our old reliance upon purely political party structures and the first determined action by the nucleus of the broader movement that will ultimately bring about the salvation of our people. It was the birth of something really new and exciting - rejoice!


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Posted by Ex-Pro White Activist on Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:50 | #

Thirdly, we need to connect with our demographic support base through cultural and social activity and through advocacy and pastoral care for the White people within our local communities.

Heightened awareness of the prerequisite need for this is very encouraging.  Personally I would include “education” near the top of “pastoral care” duties.  Surely ‘housing’ should be a “local community’ concern?  The Labor Party literally built itself into durability with this at the local level in the 1930s.

Lastly we need to begin a ‘counter march’ ‘through the institutions’ in order to strengthen our position within the existing political power structure, and this last requirement will possibly take decades before substantial advances are made.

This one requires very careful forethought.

First, there is an assumption that our racial enemies will be as weak-willed, craven and stupid about this as white men were.  I see little evidence for this to date.  Second, which specific “institutions” are under consideration?  Perhaps we can create alternative new human institutions to replace those that failed us? 

saw the death of our old reliance upon purely political party structures and the first determined action by the nucleus of the broader movement

 

I hope so.  Partisan political campaigns are too infrequent to serve as an organizing focal point for a real ‘movement’.  Here in the USA we need to see the death of the PayPal Donate/Book Club centric form of virtual movement.


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Posted by Ex-Pro White Activist on Sat, 29 Oct 2011 01:10 | #

For reasons I cannot wholly fathom, the kingdom which once produced the globe-bestriding redcoats today consists of some of the most culturally enervated, anomic, poorly mannered, racially obsequious and brainwashed whites

You don’t understand because you don’t really “believe” in genes and chromosomes in the sense of them being highly deterministic about a large range of human behaviors.  You only pretend you believe it to try to blend in.  Everyone here is aware of how supersaturated in Jewish ideas your thoughts really are.

GT & I really do think genetics matter and we act on this idea.  And when repeated experiments (electoral political appeals based on generic “white European” group self-preservation) failed to obtain the predicted results for several decades we finally stepped back to reexamine the basic theory.

Reason 1.  Dysgenic Warfare & Selection of the Unfittest For Survival:  World War I was the leading cause.  World War II furthered this by selecting the best and brightest for high casualty rate aircrew.

Reason 2.  Dysgenic emigration.  The most active and motivated males in the UK have tended to be immigrants for many generations now.

Reason 3.  Dysgenic selection for passive social behaviors in a centralized bankster-centralized industry economy.  i.e. the sort of “capitalist” state you are in love with.  The UK is probably into the 8th generation since the “Industrial Revolution” really gained traction there.  The USA is at Generation 5 or 6. 

I hasten to add the same destructive factors have been at work in the USA.  So let no one interpret this as a bit of American chauvinism on my part.  In the USA there is an additional factor:

Reason 4:  Anglo-Saxons, Germans, Nordics, Italians, Greeks and Irish are not a unitary “white” race.  No one outside of Brad Griffin’s negro importing Dixie ever thought they were until the spread of Boasian anthropology.  Consequently their ‘failure’ to respond as a single people should only surprise those brainwashed into believing a false idea (race & genetics don’t matter).


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Posted by Papa Luigi on Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:04 | #

We White nationalists have for decades now laboured under the misapprehension that all we need do is stand a White nationalist candidate in an election and campaign vigourously, and left to their own devices and free from intimidation the majority of White people will vote for that candidate. We have assumed that because we represent those who wish to protect ‘White culture’ and ‘White society’, the White electors will recognise their common cause with us and be drawn to support us, and while this is true of individual Whites in one on one discussions during doorstep canvassing or during discussions in the privacy of their homes, such support has consistently failed to materialise sufficiently at the ballot box.

The reason for this is that while we are agents fighting to preserve the culture that the majority of Whites would choose, if they were allowed that choice free from external pressure, influence or intimidation, we do not represent the dominant culture within or society anymore. The dominant culture is now cultural Marxism and political correctness. This is not the natural culture of our people, but it is the culture that is imposed upon them by those who control the levers of power and who occupy almost all of the positions of influence within our society.

There is a well recognised principle in direct sales that on average a tall salesperson with a deep voice will, all other things being equal, out sell any rival that does not have these qualities, and the psychology behind this is very simple. All adults were once children and throughout their childhood they were conditioned to do as they were told by adults, i.e. people that were much taller than they were and who had deeper voices than they had. Once adult it is almost impossible to throw off the effects of such long-term conditioning and so we remain throughout much of our lives more susceptible to the ‘advice’ given by taller, deeper voiced salespeople.

During our childhoods we are also conditioned to obey those people who occupy positions of authority within our society; policemen; teachers; doctors; scientists etc., and so as adults, just as with tall, deeper voiced salespeople, we remain more susceptible to influence from those people who occupy positions of authority.

Marxists recognised these factors long ago and so under the auspices of the Frankfurt School they began ‘the long march through the institutions’, secreting their people, often as ‘sleepers’, into positions of power and influence within our society. They became the voice of ‘authority’ and the results are all around us to be seen.

The truth of this was recognised several decades ago by William Pierce and while he spoke of this in terms of us needing to build a larger propaganda machine than that possessed by our enemies, most White nationalists failed to fully understand the implications of this for us in a strategic sense.

I can remember that not so many years ago, Nick Griffin visited the US and berated American White nationalist leaders over the fact that they were not winning local elections like the BNP were in the UK. Griffin failed to appreciate that while such minor electoral successes were possible from intensive electioneering at a local level, we White nationalists lack the propaganda output necessary, and we lack the ‘social influence’ necessary to replicate such successes on a larger scale.

Griffin and Brons achieved election to the European parliament solely because of an anomaly of the proportional representation system employed in those elections. With a derisory 5% or 6% of the poll, they just about squeezed over the base threshold required to achieve minimal representation in Brussels and thus they took their places among the other White nationalists in the European Parliament, forming and insignificantly small protest group within a vast electoral body that has effectively ignored them.

Election to Brussels should never have been a matter of gaining representation within the European parliament, it should always have been about obtaining access to fat salaries and funds from the EU Parliament, which should have been used to finance further political activity here in the UK. Griffin and Brons should have intensified their work cementing their position and establishing a permanent community powerbase within the constituencies that elected them. Instead they allowed their influence as MEPs to be effectively neutralised as they contented themselves with the role of ‘songbirds’, singing to a deaf audience in a ‘soundproofed’, albeit guilded cage, hundreds of miles away from their constituents.

Like others before him Griffin made the mistake of hoping for and placing his trust in the ‘quick fix’, the ‘fortunate event’, the ‘convergence of catastrophies’ that would magically enable us to avert the looming genetic obliteration of our people, without the painstaking, prolonged and disciplined struggle that a permanent solution requires is salvation is to be ours.

We have to rebuild our nation from the bottom up if we are to succeed, we cannot hope to conveniently ‘parachute’ into positions of real political power without the hard graft that is required to dislodge our enemies.

This hard graft requires us to engage in rebuilding the fractured communities of people so that through pastoral care we become recognised as THE primary authority figures within their lives and thereby win their undying support.

We must spend time amassing resources, so that we have the money and a propaganda output capable of rivaling our enemies, and we must spend time helping those who support us to stealthily acquire positions of power and influence within our politically correct society and have the quiet capacity to increasingly influence events our way in future.

THEN the time will be right to throw our weight behind election campaigns, when the ground work has been done and we have the capacity to wrongfoot our enemies, permanently undermining their influence and gradually racheting back control, until a nation state is ours once more.

All depends upon us securing that first vital foothold on the world stage, control of just one nation state and a ‘domino’ effect will follow. This is why it is essential that our movement does not limit itself to ‘ethno-nationalism’, as one nation state in isolation will not be enough. One White nationalist state would quickly become like Iran, a pariah state within the ‘international community’ and all the power and influence of our enemies would be directed towards fomenting war against us.

We must extend our movement so that we unite all White nationalists groups within an international network of conscious racial nationalists. Then when we take control of our first nation state, our people across the world will throw their influence and their resources behind ensuring its success.

As I keep saying to our people, a proven blue-print already exists showing how a minority of devoted and determined people can establish a new nation in the face of otherwise almost universal opposition and hostility, and secure its existence through a network of Sayanim operating in almost every other country of the world.

It will take time to build the movement of which I speak and this is why it will take not just willing hearts, but wise heads and nerves of steel. We must not waste our efforts in futile electioneering and overt campaigning that exposes our best leaders and organisers to the withering hail of abuse that eminates from our enemies. We must resist the temptation to panic and go off at half-cock, for fear that we will be demographically overwhelmed before electoral success comes. We must build and prepare and carefully position our people before we overtly take the fight to our enemies. This is a contest that will go all of the way to wire, but if we hold our nerve and time it right, we will have the impact necessary to win the day.


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Posted by FB on Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:17 | #

Blair rejoices at his role in the genocide of the indigenous population of England. Why does Labour hates White people so much?


http://mangans.blogspot.com/2011/10/blair-celebrates-his-role-in-downfall.html



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