Posted by Jon on Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:17 | #

“On the other hand, it is so noted that there are undoubtedly plenty of right-wingers who would just love to blame Jews for everything in an effort to distract from their own part in our catastrophes.”

Not the sole cause, merely the sine qua non.

Posted by Hymie in Afula on Fri, 22 Nov 2013 22:10 | #

If we believe that (say for example) evolutionarily, the rise of insects who deposit their eggs in fecal droppings, and whose larvae are able to harvest the yet-unused calories therein - was inevitable and predictable….

.... then we might also predict that any incomplete or susceptible condition in a species (say for example, White humans) will give rise to parasites thereon.

Go ahead. Kill all the Jews. Someone else will arise in their place.

“The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves”

Posted by Hymie in Afula on Fri, 22 Nov 2013 22:33 | #

Template for Johnny-AppleSeed’ing the new White Zion:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communal_settlement_(Israel)

The Declaration of Independence in 1948 was (necessarily) proceeded by 50 years of ethnicity-reconstruction. EG, the establishment of Hebrew-speaking kindergardens.

I suggest Latin as the focus of efforts. To my (incomplete) knowledge, it is the only real rooted-in-whiteness language. Well, maybe Esperanto. But Esperanto has no mythos, which all cultures need.

In the USA today, many elites send their children to Mandarin-language schools AS A PROXY FOR finding a legal way to establish ghetto-creature free zones. American Blacks seldom display interest in foreign languages.

Establish Latin-immersion kindergardens, which in addition, do NOT feature ANY sports which rotate around moving a ball or object from one place to another.

These two criteria will de-facto, screen out 95% of your problems. The American Jews are already have their emerging new focus on Hebrew-immersion elementary schools, they won’t flood you with applications.

Reference:  World Zionist Organization’s   recent establishment of a Hebrew Language Council.

Posted by Hymie in Afula on Fri, 22 Nov 2013 22:41 | #

Examplar of your end-goal:

  http://www.matan.muni.il

Note: to EVEN ENTER into the municipality, you need to be screened by armed guards at the gate. To establish residency, you must apply, and be voted-in-favor by (I don’t know the size of) a majority of existing residents.

Posted by Richard on Sat, 23 Nov 2013 07:26 | #

If we believe that (say for example) evolutionarily, the rise of insects who deposit their eggs in fecal droppings, and whose larvae are able to harvest the yet-unused calories therein - was inevitable and predictable….

.... then we might also predict that any incomplete or susceptible condition in a species (say for example, White humans) will give rise to parasites thereon.

Go ahead. Kill all the Jews. Someone else will arise in their place.

James Bowery has talked about how horizontal transmission results in the evolution of virulence, and how the Jews have a long history of horizontal transmission.

This is why it’s critical to mitigate horizontal transmission.

At least you’re admitting and acknowledging the problem. That’s a first step.

Posted by Hymie in Afula on Sun, 24 Nov 2013 00:27 | #

>>>  At least you’re admitting and acknowledging the problem. That’s a first step

From our point of view…. we don’t have a problem.  You do.

Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:03 | #

Daniel,

I am not certain about this over-reaction.  National Socialism would certainly have been such had it not itself been so complete in its reflection of Talmudism.  Its ascription of zero value to the Jewish life (and the gypsy life, and that of homosexuals, and, to a lesser extent, Slavs) did not have its genesis in Germanic or even European culture and European thought.  Fascism did not contain it.  But Judaism did and does.

The enslavement of Jewry was a literal reversal and a calculated revenge; though it was an enslavement without procreative possibilities so it can properly be called a Final Solution and deliberate extermination and genocide without recourse to the disputed history of the Holocaust.  Were it not for that, and were it not for the homosexuals and Slavs, one might conclude that National Socialism’s incorporation of the Talmudic disvaluation of the Other was a rough kind of justice.

The situation in White Nationalism in the US today is nothing so developed.  People are feeling their way along the route, and no doubt experiencing the same sense of outrage and shock at Jewish activism in all its forms that Germans experienced in the 1920s.  Many of these WNs are of German descent, of course, and may be motivated by a redemptive agenda for the Third Reich.  It doesn’t take much for a determined corpus of opinion-formers to generalise their views, and it could be just that without this German American focus things would be quite different.

Posted by Richard on Sun, 24 Nov 2013 03:35 | #

From our point of view…. we don’t have a problem.  You do.

That’s what I meant. You’re admitting and acknowledging the nature of our problem.

Posted by DanielS on Sun, 24 Nov 2013 05:44 | #

Guessedworker # 7 That assessment articulates quite well how, in my experience, Nazi adherents go about representing their (antagonistic) views. Both Jews and Nazi seem to take on an absurd unanimity and commitment to detailing logic within that unanimity; they can be surprisingly similar and frustrating.

For the post WWII generations in America, who grew up without the Internet, the media was overwhelming. They were subject to very little discourse outside this Nazi - Jewish line.

I imagine that for this generation, the fall-out is overwhelming, even if they have the capacity to say something about it publicly that prior generations did not have with the Internet.

Your assessment is heartening. I have indeed, experienced some people who have been admirers of Nazism but seem willing, relieved perhaps, to move from that rubric, to German - a distinct part of the European family but a part of the family nevertheless; which is not alone in having to deal with antagonists, not alone or unreasonable in wanting to secure its people; not alone in cooperation toward the advancement of its interests. 

I rather wish that the Germans were not talented so that it would not appear the reason why I seek to cooperate with them. That is, I seek to cooperate with them because they are European, not because they are talented. The latter motivation seems to be the suspicion of some, whereupon a list of accomplishments are reeled-off: we have these corporations, these scientists, this economy etc.

Regarding the American permutation, it seems that a common source comes through William Pierce, The Institute of Historical Revue and David Duke. Naturally, there are likely to be a few key others, such as Oliver and Klassen: similar as their muse, Hitler, they are able to provide a very efficient account. Thorough though it is, it is not complete enough to merge with the other (not even other Europeans, let alone Jews) to a negotiative position (as perhaps Chamberlain found).

This is a view that seems to have been adopted at the upstart “Renegade Broadcasting”, where some intelligent young folks are making articulate broadcasts apparently having taken a route such as Pierce’s.

It is unfortunate because there are cracks in their foundational episteme, so to speak, which may cause serious problems.

I went over Renegade, seeing swastika’s flying, hearing the virtues of Hitler extolled, his adversaries vilified or denounced as stupid or petty, the “holohoax” etc. ..

That is, I approached in the same way that I approached VOR originally, as a well intentioned critic.

I don’t expect to change a bunch of determined young rebels who take on such view - but I might hope, even for their own sake. I am not looking to make pacificsts of them, but am hoping for them to draw the lines better and with better qualities.  I wish they would listen to Metzger a bit more.

Some of them are adopting right-wing personas, cartoon characterizations the likes of which I had not even directly experienced of hard-hat types in the 60’s (Merle Haggard, proud to be an Oaky… the movie “Joe”). They are using the term “communist hippies.”

If you were to call the hippies that I knew a “communist” they would not even know what you are talking about. How ridiculous it sounds to me. On the other hand, if you went to Berkeley, and talked with its radical Jewish students (and a few useful idiots beginning with the “free speech movement”), you’d undoubtedly get an ear banging. I guess the “generation 68ers” of Europe emerged more of Marxist training than American hippies.

Anyway, I don’t mean to keep talking about hippies, I am really not particularly nostalgic for the times.

My concern is rather my own lack of tact or position for correcting a serious epistemological blunder in the making. I can be too emotional. Sometimes I attempt some subtle arguments which may not seem important. And I may well have the opposite of my intended effect and make these kids all the more determined to hold true to a stereotype.

It is prima facie evident that the swastika is not an emblem of all Europeans, not even an emblem of all within the most snobbish definitions of “White.” It is the emblem of the regime of one European nation’s nationalism transformed into inter-European war. There is no reclaiming any ancient meaning for a few decades at least - decades that we don’t have to spare.

The swastika and Hitler does one important thing efficiently -  they say that Jews are not European. However, another way must be clear enough as the swastika and Hitler are also corollary to inter-European conflict.

A key issue you raise is how to help Germans get into being Germans and a part of the European family without invoking paranoia or whatever else might cause a more intransigent identification with Nazism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted by Desmond Jones on Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:12 | #

Certainly the value of life, not just Jewish life, has fluctuated extensively throughout European history. The Highland clearances would be but one example of such demeanor. However, fortunately for the Scots they were able to escape famine and pestilence by emigrating. The value of Jewish life in Germany was quite significant ($1.6 billion in 2009 dollars)  during the 1930s, through an agreement that sent German Jews to Palestine, in return for ending the Jewish boycott of NS Germany.  Of course with Westminster’s declaration of war and ongoing opposition to Jewish migration to Palestine the agreement ended.

A calculated revenge for WWI perhaps or simply further evidence of a perfidious Albion?