After Mandela On June 28th this year the Daily Mail somewhat prematurely began the run up to the announcement of the death of Nelson Mandela. It ran an article which began:
I don’t know how many people like Roelof du Plessis have paid with their lives for the alleged freedom of blacks in South Africa. The number must be getting on for four thousand, not a few of them murdered in the most gratuitously savage and hateful way. There has never been a society in which blacks can live in the same society as whites by white behavioural standards without some radical form of social control being applied to them. As an egalitarian experiment South Africa was meant to prove history wrong, and in the process demonstrate that white racism was always and everywhere the underlying cause of friction between the races. The Boer Genocide in the years since stands as a terrible testimony on history’s behalf, and now, with Mandela finally gone, the world will get its answer, one way or another. Mandela is dead. Long live Orania. Comments:2
Posted by Englander on Fri, 06 Dec 2013 15:59 | # Where is the discussion at the DT? I noticed that the Mandela articles were closed to comments. According to the BBC, Mandela was imprisoned “for his beliefs”... 3
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 06 Dec 2013 20:59 | # One thread is open: There is quite a bit on the thread to this unrelated article: 4
Posted by Graham_Lister on Sat, 07 Dec 2013 11:05 | # Well in the UK media there has been a smorgasbord of moral vanity and posturing on this ‘issue’. One awful example of the phenomenon was on the early evening BBC TV programme “The One Show” (I’m not regular viewer but wished to avoid the news broadcast I normally watch at that time of night). And guess what? The One Show was all about Mandela. And their was a special guest in the studio to discuss just how wonderful he was. The guest was an obese, skin-headed African woman that just happened to be a Church of England chaplain to the House of Commons. And to think some people are still deluded enough to assert that such Christian organisations are ‘essential’ to the future well-being and flourishing of the European communitas. As for Mandela’s legacy and that of the ANC - well it’s not good even for the vast majority of blacks in South Africa. A tiny black elite* has enriched themselves enormously whilst South Africa, in general, slowly becomes a hell-hole. J. M. Coetzee’s novel ‘Disgrace’ is a good place to start in exploring the realities of the new South Africa. *Elite only in terms of having a privileged position within the power structure of that society. After all Jacob Zuma was widely reported to believe that he could avoid infection with HIV/AIDS by taking a shower after unprotected sex. In my own life I encountered a black South African graduate student. He guy was on a Fulbright scholarship to do a PhD in the biological sciences. If his IQ was above 90 I would have been amazed. He openly espoused a belief in witchcraft, magic, Voodoo etc., thought that Darwinism was both wrong and ‘evil’ etc., and his academic work was of an appallingly low standard. I was very thankful that he was not part of the research group that I worked in. (He was in the section of the department concerned with applied biology - agriculture, plant breeding etc.). This guy also combined those beliefs with being a Bible-believing Christian - yes one of those Biblical literalism fools. Talk about cognitive dissonance! Needless to say everyone thought his presence in the department was a bad joke. Yet everyone with any influence was crippled by political correctness and the ‘fear’ of being called a racist if they were openly critical of this joker. Personally I openly mocked him asking questions like “how does the idea of 500+ year-old humans fit within life-history theory?”. Once I outlined Hume’s argument against design for him and he called me “the most evil man he had ever met”. I’m quite proud of that. He also claimed the head of my research group engaged in black-magic (how ironic) and forced his staff and his graduate students into his wicked ways! And that I had been hand-picked from the UK to assist him in his nefarious activities. Obviously the actual student did NOT use quite such a sophisticated vocabulary - I doubt he could spell nefarious! Anyway this encounter was part of my academic sojourn in the USA (at very decent institution). The point of the story is this idiot had a guaranteed job in the South African civil service (in connection to agricultural issues). So he was a putative junior member of the South Africa ruling class/bureaucracy. And yes he did receive a PhD - such degrees are not ‘equal’ in academic value or intellectual rigor. Honestly, is it any wonder why sub-saharan Africa (minus input from Europeans, or these days the Chinese) is seriously fucked up? 5
Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:23 | #
The Church is absolutely necessary, but obviously it needs to be ideologically cleansed of its liberal heresies first. A true Christian is one above all committed to truth. Such a Christian would point out that SA was much better off (morally, economically, socially) under white rule than it has been post-apartheid, and that it would have been in the interests (rightly understood) of all South Africans for that rule to have been perpetuated. That no leading churchman will say this merely is testimony to the massive ignorance (in a few cases) and cowardice (in the vast majority) of today’s “Christians”. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Disgrace was a good novel, as was its cinematization. Coetzee is sort of a sniveler, however; not at all a race defender. More of an agonized liberal ‘courageously’ willing to look at the ‘darker’ aspects of the new SA. Definitely knows how far he can go without losing his professorships, global status, etc, and stays rigorously within that ‘safety zone’. We on the authentic (racial) Right of course correctly predicted that a black majority-run SA would become a total s***hole, and that whites would be viciously oppressed. I realize that a majority of the majority of the white South Africans who insanely voted formally to end apartheid in 1992 (which hardly seems like ancient history, to me anyway) were not Boers, but still, unless the conspiracy brigade can demonstrate otherwise, I believe the measure passed by 2-1 (a lot of the pro-multiculti side’s argument stressed the putative economic benefits to be gotten from the ending of sanctions). How could white South Africans have been so dumb? I’ve never seen a satisfactory answer. I recall exactly what I said when SA ‘fell’: “Racial Battleground Zero has now moved to America”. Of course, I didn’t anticipate the coming spectacular demographic treason of your own Blair/Brown junta ... My heart bleeds for my Boer brothers of the skin ... Let us all speak up for them (and us) whenever possible! 6
Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:28 | # I wonder if anyone is interested in this? Oxford is having a special sale on its entire Very short Introductions set. You can get all 357 volumes for just under $3000. Thought you should know. 7
Posted by Leon Haller on Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:41 | # Final observations: Margaret Thatcher was, from any perspective, a vastly more important historical figure than Mandela. Yet the disgusting Obama did not attend her funeral, but is flying (at the cost of millions of US tax-dollars) to Mandela’s. The chief issue in the postwar era was the struggle against Bolshevism. In that contest, Thatcher stood heroically for the West, while the filthy Mandela stood with the Soviets. Note also that today is the anniversary of the “day that will live in infamy” - the Japanese (not-so-sneak) attack (known beforehand by both Churchill and Roosevelt) on the main US Pacific naval base, at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. While I am a retrospective America Firster, and wish the US had stayed out of WW2, Dec 7 remains a significant date for all real Americans. I wonder if non-American Obama is even going to mention Pearl Harbor today? Any bets he ignores it? 8
Posted by Englander on Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:56 | # GW, you’ll see that the comments are now closed in the DT Mandela thread you linked to. 9
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Posted by Leon Haller on Sun, 08 Dec 2013 10:32 | # Sparkle, How do you obtain that info? I’ve never downloaded or had any experience with torrents. Is there some central preferred exchange? 11
Posted by Russell A. James on Sun, 08 Dec 2013 13:58 | # Great article. I promoted it on my Twitter account (Nationalism Today) and I included it in a list, I compiled, of similar articles from around the web (most published in the last few hours since his death) that strip-away the heroic narrative built-up around Mandela and reveal him for who he truly was: 12
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Posted by Johan Van Vlaams on Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:12 | # For a better understanding of the psychotic South-African society: Do South African whites really ‘have it so good’? Post a comment:
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Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:26 | #
For perspective ... from a DT comment by a poster going by the name on AncientPopeye:
Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists. Here are some highlights
-Church Street West, Pretoria, on the 20 May 1983
-Amanzimtoti Shopping complex KZN, 23 December 1985
-Krugersdorp Magistrate’s Court, 17 March 1988
-Durban Pick ‘n Pay shopping complex, 1 September 1986
-Pretoria Sterland movie complex 16 April 1988 – limpet mine killed ANC terrorist M O Maponya instead
-Johannesburg Magistrate’s Court, 20 May 1987
-Roodepoort Standard Bank 3 June, 1988
Tellingly, not only did Mandela refuse to renounce violence, Amnesty refused to take his case stating “[the] movement recorded that it could not give the name of ‘Prisoner of Conscience’ to anyone associated with violence, even though as in ‘conventional warfare’ a degree of restraint may be exercised.”