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Establishment-speak and the servility of the media class In the immediate aftermath of last week’s initial debate between the Deputy Prime Minister and LibDem leader Nick Clegg and UKIP’s Nigel Farage, an easy victory for the former was swiftly declared by the entire media Establishment – only for a snap poll by YouGov, conducted for The Sun, to prove them painfully wrong. 57% of the thousand-strong panel thought Farage won. Only 36% thought Clegg had emerged victorious. There followed a lot of very rough changing of journalistic gears, along with several admissions of Westminster village behaviour. The underlying inference, though, remained that Farage’s views were “populist”, ie, not the sort of thing that interests the cogniscenti (they being far above the infirmity and fickle affections of the public Mind. Naturally.) Anthony Wells at YouGov – a left-leaning polling company if ever there was one - made the point that just finding a thousand people who would listen to the LBC Radio broadcast was a challenge in itself; and took months to achieve. He seemed not to have great confidence in the sample at all. Everything, then, hung on the second of the debates last night - an hour-long joust between Clegg and Farage on the benefit or otherwise of EU membership, to be broadcast live on BBC2: This time YouGov declared an overwhelming victory for Farage with a pile-driving sixty-eight per cent endorsing his performance to just twenty-seven per cent who thought Clegg had won. Even 57% of Labour voters preferred Farage. Even 33% of Clegg’s own party preferred Farage! An ICM poll for the Guardian, with a sample size of 1,458, found confirmation of this, with Farage on 69% per cent and Clegg on 31%. Interestingly, the pollsters decided to ask whether form contributed more to that finding than substance. They found the opposite:
So it seems that the public’s judgement is based on the substance of the arguments it heard, while that of the national media is based on cosying up to power, clubbishness, inertia, vanity, etc. To test this thesis I offer the following heavily-reduced, piquant Clegg Weltanschauung sauce, flavoured with all the positive statements the great man managed to utter last night. All the knockabout banter over energy prices, trade agreements, statistics for laws imposed by Brussels, Putin, bombing Syria, etc, has been stripped away. Judge for yourself whether there is any substance left at all:
Farage’s best line, by contrast, and his pithy riposte to all this self-justifying mush was, “Come and join the people’s army, let’s topple the Establishment that’s led us into this mess.” Comments:2
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 06:33 | # Obviously, both men were looking to make gains for their respective party. Farage has wanted to present his party alongside the three Westminster parties for a long while. The other party leaders didn’t want that, obviously. But sharing government with the Conservative Party is proving electorally challenging. Nobody knows what the LibDems really stand for any longer, and their poll figures are on the floor. Clegg needs to carve out an identity for his party and to re-connect with his past supporters. So when LBC issued the original invitations, he accepted. The debates were supposed to include the other two leaders. But for their own reasons, of course, they wanted nothing to do with Farage (it’s their party’s votes they have been losing to UKIP). That is continuing, with Miliband telling the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/03/nigel-farage-tv-election-debates-ed-miliband
The BBC will probably invite party leaders to a pair of TV debates in the run-up to the May 2015 General Election. On the evidence of these two debates, they would have to invite Farage. But the BBC is part of the liberal Establishment and doesn’t like Farage and his “populism” any more than Cameron, Miliband, or Clegg. Doubtless, Cameron (who has most to lose electorally from debating Farage) would tell them that he will not attend any debate at which Farage is present. The BBC will not issue him an invitation. If the Westminster parties were worried about UKIP before, they will be scared witless now. As for the Establishment line being believed through repetition, the opposite is happening. Anti-politics has set in. 3
Posted by Bill on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:20 | # It’s immigration stupid. Without immigration on the scale the cathedral have employed in recent years, they could have got clean away with it. Why isn’t Farage asking really awkward questions, at no time have the media been placed on the back foot, and why has the BBC got itself involved? At last, Farage has got the undreamed of access and exposure we have all been craving for, and hey! Viola! What’s in it for the BBC? Farage goes into the arena bearing arms of weapons of mass destruction but is impotent to use them, the opposition is confident in the paralysing effects of its SDI of political correctness. The real victory in these two debates has in fact been political correctness which the enemy has woven into the psyche of the BBC viewer, and which is the very weapon that prevents Farage from telling it like it is, and obviously fears to tread. Political parties’ may come and go - but the media is for ever. Our people are BBC constructs from birth to grave, so how come the battle of cognitive dissonance is starting to resist? It’s because we’re herd animals and are instinctively attuned to perceived menace. This whole new world order malarkey is not natural and goes against the grain, and thereby lays its demise. As for Farage the jury is still out, but even so he’s better than nothing.
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Posted by uKn_Leo on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 08:49 | # What are our orders? http://youtu.be/CqyeTvc6Iio ______ http://youtu.be/2frJ3e0hxPE (Morgs - does it matter at all that Sprig is a Freemason?). 5
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:00 | # Better than nothing, but still controlled opposition…. a safety valve for the banksters and YKW, who have shown that they are willing sail under the false color of nativist nationalism* - even didactically anti-Jewish nativists as in the case of Ukraine’s Banderas - where it serves to divide, diffuse and deflect White nationalists’ coordination.
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Posted by Leon Haller on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:22 | # Any authentic nationalist must always put stopping nonwhite immigration front and center. It is the lowest common denominator of nationalism, as well as something which unifies all nationalists. It is also the bridge between nationalists and their less awakened conservative brethren. Nationalists everywhere would face a real problem if the vast bulk of immigrants were higher-IQ Asians, whether from high IQ groups like the East Asians, or an overwhelmingly IQ-selected group like Indians in America, who I believe are now the second wealthiest identifiable ethnic group in the US after Jews (I’ve read that Indians are generally a low IQ group, but the best of them all seem to want to immigrate to America; I run across very advanced Indian immigrant professionals all the time now). But given the horrendous quality, behavior and ideology of the bulk of immigrants to Europe these days, calls against additional immigration really ought to resonate widely across the UK political spectrum. Can’t anti-immigrationism alone (allied to an otherwise vague centrism) be enough to get a major party candidate to Downing St? 7
Posted by uKn_Leo on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:15 | #
~ L_H See Bill @3 Leon. It’s the media, and the BBC in particular, that stand in the way. Our people are BBC constructs from birth to grave ~ Bill Hysteria was created over the deportation of one bogus asylum seeker back to Mauritius: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-26807166 UKIP are, allegedly, gaining support from across the political spectrum (voters)with their limited civic approach. As far as our more hostile immigrants are concerned this land is now theirs. Conquered territory that will never be returned. The worldwide Islamic Caliphate will be based in Europe and spread outwards from here. This map may be of interest - the ethnic balkanisation of London: http://now-here-this.timeout.com/2013/09/10/londons-ethnicities-mapped/
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Posted by Bill on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:22 | # Libertarianism seems to be gaining traction, especially in America. Its two notable worthies being Rand and Ron Paul, son and father combo who seem rarely out of the political milieu. Has libertarianism slipped into Britain under the radar and guise of UKIP? The similarities between the Paul duo and Farage are striking. Ron Paul was blanked during the 2010 Presidential election but now seems to have been welcomed back into the fold. Rand Paul I’m not familiar with, but it does seem, like father- like son. I suppose what I’m asking is, is Nigel Farage our Ron Paul (or Rand Paul)? Here’s something I omitted @3 above. Polls. I have developed a growing distrust of polls since Blair and New Labour, I think they, (polls) are like the rest of the useful idiots and are in the back pocket of TPTB. What better way to mislead the public on any issue you care to mention. Notwithstanding the turnaround in the Farage -Clegg rumble. I’m deeply suspicious of the direction of TV ‘head to head’ political debate is going. We are being goaded into a race war (I always thought the next war would be North vs South.) The EU has demonstrated quite clearly that voting for change is a no brainer, they move the goalposts until they get the desired result. So what’s the point of a referendum Mr Farage? 9
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:40 | # Libertarianism seems to be gaining traction, especially in America. Its two notable worthies being Rand and Ron Paul, son and father combo who seem rarely out of the political milieu. Has libertarianism slipped into Britain under the radar and guise of UKIP? The similarities between the Paul duo and Farage are striking
Never believe that libertarianism represents true nativist interests. It is a false opposition used to misguide people with conservative instincts and motives into a liberal direction.
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Posted by Morgoth on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 11:24 | # An interesting part of the second debate was when Clegg held up a UKIP poster that depicted a Native American with the phrase ‘‘I used to ignore immigration, now I live on a reservation’‘. Clegg of course was waffling about ‘‘Hate’’ and Farage said he had never seen it before, which I find hard to believe because I had. But nevertheless, the idea was out there and countless thousands of Whites would have had a bit of a jolt and probably nodded in agreement. It’s a problem the establishment have whenever they bring up certain ideas, by trying to debunk them they merely expose them to a wider audience. Here is another example from an Anti Racist fanny who writes at the DT Again, most people looking at that article will never have seen the ‘‘Diversity= White Genocide’’ mantra and we see again that even by demonizing Nationalist ideas the MSM is still promoting them. Naturally like the rest of you I’d prefer Farage to get up there and ‘‘name the Jew’‘, call to stop and deport the racial aliens and so on. But it isn’t going to happen. In the mean time however the fallout from the chaos he is inflicting on the establishment is moderately useful, and in a few years could be crucial in opening up the way to Nationalism. At a recent gathering Griffin said UKIP were damaging in the short term to Nationalism but in the long term, when UKIP are reintegrated into the Tory party or dissolved, millions of people will be more than happy to turn towards Nationalism. ‘’(Morgs - does it matter at all that Sprig is a Freemason?).’‘ Not to me. 11
Posted by Mick Lately on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 13:30 | # I would expect that the phrase ‘Frankfurt School’ can be continued to be used as a sort of semitically-aware synecdoche that allows for secret handshakes in public view and plausible deniability in the face of TPTB/MSM. That’s not “naming the Jew” and it’s not enough, but it’s not nothing either. 12
Posted by Thorn on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 13:46 | # Bill@8 Rand Paul is laying the foundations for his 2016 run at the presidency. He is taking what he believes are the necessary steps to inoculate himself from the inevitable charges of racism that he’ll have to deal with. For example: he set up an outreach office in Detroit for the supposed purpose of bringing more blacks into the GOP fold. To me that attempt is purely cosmetic. As if blacks are going to give up their tax funded freebies? Not a chance. Rand Paul isn’t naïve enough to believe that either. It is meant to pay his due respect and or to placate and sooth his savage critics—especially those in the MSM. In any event, Rand Paul might make a respectable show in the upcoming primaries. He is very popular amongst the younger GOP voters. However, it’s organized jewry coupled with the jewish controlled MSM that BY FAR wields the greatest influence in picking our candidates. Organized jewry that comprise the big money donors were backing Chris Christie, but he recently fell out of favor due to a trumped up scandal. Now the big jews are seriously considering Jeb Bush to be their GOP pick. Anyhoo, early polling indicates Hillary Clinton is by far the Democrat fave. Thus the 2016 presidential election could very well be a head to head contest between a Clinton and Jeb Bush. In the very likely event Jeb Bush wins the presidency in 2016, pols like Rand Paul will be left looking in from the outside within their own party. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html 13
Posted by Leon Haller on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 14:10 | # Libertarianism is a species of liberalism, preferable to the progressive variety, but utterly unable to preserve the West. Single-issue anti-Third World immigrationism - a pure anti-invasion platform such as I have long called for (‘pure’ in the sense of not being allied to antisemitism, calls for revolutionary violence, Holocaust denial, trade protectionism, moral reform, authoritarianism or libertarianism, etc etc) - has not to my recollection really been tried anywhere. I’m talking about opposing immigration on its own terms, rather than as part of any broader agenda. Immigration brings so many problems to native voters, with such minor if any benefits, that I think such an approach could yield outsized results, esp insofar as there are so many and varied arguments against it, from wages and ecology, to language, diseases, and national security. The UK is really the place to try this approach, and I wish Farage would. 14
Posted by DanielS on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 15:16 | # Posted by Leon Haller on April 04, 2014, 09:10 AM | # “Single-issue anti-Third World immigrationism - a pure anti-invasion platform such as I have long called for (‘pure’ in the sense of not being allied to antisemitism”
...they kept the truth from you, will continue to keep the truth from you…they know that the best way to weaken a people is to mongrelize them ...and then when you realize what’s happened, why I’m sorry, but it’s just too late… 15
Posted by Leon Haller on Tue, 08 Apr 2014 06:28 | # Catching up on my Economist reading ... I really admire and envy you Brits your outstanding Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne. What a great man! I wish we Americans had someone with his strength of character. In one of the accompanying articles on the UK budget, it stated that Britain had shed 600,000 government jobs since Cameron came into office. That is an astounding achievement, the US equivalent of perhaps 3 million fewer government workers. WOW!
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Posted by Bill on Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:31 | # The state that Britain is in. I’ve long opined the Trans Atlantic monetary system is dead broke, the only engine of growth is immigration, the importation of millions of people. Britain’s population is increasing at the thick end of a million souls per year, 50% of which is straight off the latest 707 through Heathrow, the remaining 50% accounting for immigration birthrate for those already here. The whole of our economy is being premised on an exponentially increasing population demanding an ever increasing money supply on a daily basis. I only have to look around me to see housebuilding on a scale never seen before, housing that is required to shelter the incoming millions over the next few years. There are over 2500 extra people per day being added to our food bill, our homes required, our road usage, our waste treatment plants, hospitals, roads, jobs. schools etc. And yet our politicians make no mention of this fact. There is never any public discussion by our politicians outlining what their future Britain will look like. they, politicians live in a place to which ordinary people are not privy, so the people are not even thinking of asking the question of what the future holds for their children and grandchildren, but they are straining in their seats in anticipation of who has won the latest talent show on TV. Another feature of Britain is no-one knows who the politicians and (media) are addressing whenever Britain is referred to. Are they talking to a white Britain or are they addressing a non white Britain, or are the talking to a multicultural Britain? I try and decipher every BBC News programme but I’m never sure if they are talking to me. I could go on and on, but summing up….. ....I liken everyday Britain that there’s a huge space-craft hovering over the earth, blotting out the sun, darkening the sky, and all our media go on about is celebrity, or the latest gruesome treatment of some poor child by its parents, or more likely what our mega rich sports people are doing, or dreaming up ever more quiz shows, or cookery competitions, or reality TV. I really do think the world’s gone mad. Beam me up - get me outta here.
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Posted by Graham_Lister on Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:37 | # Re: Gideon Osborne True this man is, obviously, a political and intellectual Titan. As such I wish he would find time to come up to Scotland and defend the Union much more frequently. Failing that at least to intervene in the independence debate. This is a face that we, little people, can only adore and love: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PhVMgL8-qzk/TMb_fg9WiRI/AAAAAAAAAKY/mRVjFarHThM/s1600/Gideon.bmp As his, equally impressive colleague, Dave Cameron said only the other week ‘we’ don’t want to lose Scotland. You know like your car keys or some other piece of personal property. Terribly annoying when one does that you know. It’s a shame the pro-Union folks cannot call upon a such a substantive figure as Gideon Osborne - a figure of such import as to be ‘world-historic’ figure, yes? Sadly ‘Project Fear’ (google it) has to rely on morally dubious lickspittles (and self-hating Scots) such as ‘Lord’ Robinson. Scottish independence: Lord Robertson says Yes vote ‘would be cataclysmic’ - Yes it would to his comfortable life on the gravy train but that not what motivates such high-minded people is it? But what did the friend of the Dunblane mass murderer have to say on Scottish independence? ——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————- The former secretary general of Nato has said that Scottish independence would be cataclysmic for the West in an era of international turmoil. Speaking in the US, Lord Robertson said a “debilitating divorce” after a “Yes” vote in September would threaten the stability of the wider world. He said he believed the American administration was worried about the possibility of Scottish independence. The Scottish government said the comments were “crass and offensive”. Scotland’s Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said she was “shocked” by the language of the former Labour defence secretary. Lord Robertson Former secretary general of Nato Lord Roberston was speaking at the Brookings Institution where he said the US should make its views public - as should all British allies. In a strongly-worded speech, he said: “The loudest cheers for the break-up of Britain would be from our adversaries and from our enemies. “For the second military power in the west to shatter this year would be cataclysmic in geo-political terms.” He went on to urge “Britain’s allies” to speak out and to say that an independent Scotland would “affect them as well”. Lord Robertson added: “This is not a purely domestic matter even though it’s a decision that will be taken by the Scottish people. “The Scottish people need to be conscious that they are taking a decision, not just for themselves and for future generations in a one-off vote, but that it also has an effect elsewhere and people who are affected, or think they will be affected, have every right to speak out.” http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26933998 ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————- My word! Well now there’s even more need for the bastard offspring of Ozzy to step up. Gideon ‘George’ Osborne can truly be the saviour of the Union (and hence the West) and the saviour of our global economy (good from the darkies and the tribe too!). In this I agree with Mr. Haller getting the precise level of government workers (sorry parasites literally feeding from you blood) right (ideally none right LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EVER LOVED OR CARED ABOUT WITH REGARD TO LIFE, THE WEST ET AL., RIDES ON SACKING SOME MORE BIN-MEN IN DONCASTER ETC. In no way are Mr. Haller’s ideological idées-fixes - all boiler-plate sub-Hayekian ‘conservatism’ - in the least bit trivial or moribund or indicative of a mind so lacking in depth or insight as to raise the philosophical joke “Can neo-liberals be as interesting as philosophical zombies?” into a real question. Catching up with ‘The Economist’? What in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is that about? Does Mr. Haller have a problem sleeping at night? After all one paragraph of ‘The Economist’ should send human beings with a functional IQ into something approaching a catatonic state. Hope the Catholic priests didn’t tempt Mr. Haller into moral turpitude (of some sort) thus engendering such crippling guilt-based insomnia that he actually can stand to read ‘The Economist’ on a continuous basis. What other rational explanation could there be for such aberrant behaviour - let alone the brazen way it’s announced to the world as a source of ‘pride’? Neo-liberal pride, I guess, is now the cause du jure after (but not excluding) the gays? Oh and that stuff the Voodoo masters get up to with the fresh faced gifts from our Father, that’s not perverse or evil. . . no it’s a special club for Holy Willies and their worship of the Holy Willy. After all Nobodaddy likes young virgins, really likes them if you get my drift. Meanwhile in other news no true Scotsman etc.
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Posted by Silver on Wed, 09 Apr 2014 05:07 | # It’s rather telling that Graham Lister chose this particular moment to pipe up, isn’t it. It’s quite clear that promoting the cause of economic leftism energizes him far more than anything concerning race does. For all its vaunted depth Lister’s anti-liberalism consists of little more than hard left economics covered with a patina of verbosity to lend it a 21st century ‘relevance’ and a ‘no blacks, thanks’ proviso tepidly appended to it. 19
Posted by Libertarians/Farage on Fri, 06 Mar 2015 07:56 | # Tobias Langon on the libertarian, Moshe Kantor, and his aim to Stalinize Europe against “extremism” http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/03/moshe-kantor-using-lies-to-stalinize-europe/#comments No mention in the article (or the comments so far) of the Jewish/Plutocratic connection to the Libertarians and therefore, to Nigel Farage, but that is an interface that apparently bears vigilance. Post a comment:
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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 00:08 | #
What does Farage gain by winning that particular war of words? The fact that Clegg is spouting the ruling elites’ talking points automatically means he ipso facto won the debate. Give it time and the hoi polio will come around to believing it to be so. That’s how propaganda works. That’s the luxurious benefit of those who own the media enjoy.