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Livingstone in mind Three day’s ago London’s mayor Ken Livingstone was all a-blubber at his own noblesse oblige.
Livingstone has been an inveterate gesture politician all his career. To most observers the motivation has looked very like spite. But I think it does him a disservice to belittle his sincerity in that way. On Thursday the stirrings in his heart and the tears in his eyes were very likely real. Tellingly, he informed his audience that:-
We certainly do, and it’s the replacement of Europe’s people with, among others, the least educationally and civilisationally competent of all the human races. Livingstone, however, can only relate sympathetically to SSAs - and other foreigners. Kin-wise, he has his head on the wrong way round. The “institutions that still have the benefit of the wealth they created out of slavery” and, by extension, all unapologetic Englishmen are irredeemably racist, and just irredeemable, because blacks remain locked in the basement of Western life. Human bio-diversity does not exist, indeed is yet more racism. Absolute equality, therefore, is the only political ambition to which Livingstone can aspire. And for him that means the eager sharing of white living space, for the extinction of racism has no meaning otherwise. It is a gesture again, no doubt, but one demanded of us ... one of obeisance, and the most final and absolute relinquishment of those high qualities of being which define us, and which in action this neurotic man perceives as the mark of Cain. Thus, in a speech in 2005 in support of siting a statue of his demi-god, Nelson Mandela, in Trafalgar Square, he said:-
Of course, the “peaceful transition” he lauds is our acquiesecence in our own racial murder. There can be few more eloquent or more remorseless examples than Ken Livingstone of the Freudian theory of projection. At least his Mandela statue did not win a place in Trafalgar Square. He had to settle for Westminster Green. Last week he announced the August 29th date for its unveiling in these terms:-
This all looks, walks and quacks so like a morbid obsession, it comes as a relief to find that Livingstone claims some connectivity to ordinary liberal thinking. In an article for yesterday’s Independent he attempted to clothe the great drive for the MultiCult in classical liberalism:-
He isn’t at all comfortable on this rational ground, even relying upon the right of self-defence which John Stuart Mill declared good and true:-
Still, despite this philosophical incoherence Livingstone remains, with Blair and Brown, one of the genuine shapers of our liberal age. If Boris Johnson can unseat him from County Hall it will be no small advance for the English cause - regardless of Johnson’s own eccentricities. Comments:2
Posted by onetwothree on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 04:45 | # Sickness in old men turns sentimental. Anyone who’s watched a grandparent die knows this. 3
Posted by Kulturkampf on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:05 | # As a supporter of forced race-replacement, Livingstone really ought to think twice before trumpeting the right to self-defence. Red Ken truly is the most loathsome man in Britain. It’s a shame there isn’t a species of poisonous newt (an animal for which he famously feels much fondness, more so than his fellow Englishmen), like the deadly frogs in the Amazon, that could be set upon the man. 4
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:01 | #
Maybe we could talk to geneticists to see if there isn’t some way to genetically engineer one ... I know a few professors; I’ll see what I can come up with ... 5
Posted by Roger on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:17 | # Well done guessedworker. IMHO we need the army to take a hand. Nothing is to be hoped for from these Lib-Lab-Con swine General Dannatt said that the Army must retain its “Judeo-Christian”, and so, by corollary, must the nation. But the BNP must influence the private soldiers and non-commissioned officers because we don’t want a right-wing officer coup. Patriotic forces must rally. Then cleansing operations must begin - liberal scum must pay a heavy price. Apparently quite a high proportion of the homeless are former military people. Why not then draw up a list of liberal malignants and turn them out of house and home! Our lads and lasses in the forces could live there instead! Just wait for the b/s “economy” to collapse and see what happens 6
Posted by birch barlow on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:21 | # “You can look across there to see the institutions that still have the benefit of the wealth they created out of slavery,” Livingstone said, pointing through a huge window at the skyscrapers cluttering London’s financial district. What a crock. Cheap/free labor is not nearly as beneficial as it is made out to be. Only an implicit (or maybe explicit) belief in Marx’s labor theory of value could make one think that way. The South lost the Civil War largely because its economy was so dependent on cheap labor, in its case slavery. None of this is to say that slavery was anything other than an unmitigated evil. But to pretend that Western society was built on slavery or by slaves is an Afrocentric fantasy (massive suffering and exploitation of one group doesn’t necessarily mean a massive benefit for the group doing the exploitation). 7
Posted by Ernest on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:47 | # Mr Livingston must think that all his African slaves would be better off today had they been left in Africa. 8
Posted by Rnl on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:37 | # In the early 18th century, Kings of Dahomey (known today as Benin) became big players in the slave trade, waging a bitter war on their neighbours, resulting in the capture of 10,000, including another important slave trader, the King of Whydah. King Tegbesu made £250,000 a year selling people into slavery in 1750. King Gezo said in the 1840’s he would do anything the British wanted him to do apart from giving up slave trade: “The slave trade is the ruling principle of my people. It is the source and the glory of their wealth ... the mother lulls the child to sleep with notes of triumph over an enemy reduced to slavery…” http://faculty.mdc.edu/jmcnair/Joe8pages/roots_of_slavery.htm *** In short, slavery was ultimately destroyed morally, though the chief instrument of this destruction was the overwhelming military power of the West, combined with the prestige of Western civilization, based at this juncture in history on its economic, scientific, and technological achievements. [...] When the total cost of Britain’s naval and military efforts against the slave trade for more than a century are added up, they are comparable to all the profits ever made by Britain from the slave trade in earlier times. [...] The staggering sweep of slavery over thousands of years, and the enormous variety of forms it assumed at different times and places, are almost as remarkable as the scant amount of moral concern it aroused until the late eighteenth century in Britain and the United States. How and why this particular juncture in history produced a moral revulsion against slavery is much less clear than the confluence of circumstances which permitted this moral revulsion to drive a policy which resulted in the stamping out of slavery across most of the planet in a period of a century and a half. The mobilization of this moral concern into a political force that was both powerful and tenacious was historic in its consequences because of the military predominance of the countries in which these anti- slavery movements developed. More specifically, it was European imperialism which stamped out slavery over most of the world. Even in parts of the world which retained their independence or autonomy, the indelible stigma that slavery acquired in European eyes made abolition a policy to be pursued for the sake of national respectability, even in societies which had no strong feelings against slavery itself. The irony of our times is that the destruction of slavery around the world, which some once considered the supreme moral act in history, is little known and less discussed among intellectuals in either Western or non-Western countries, while the enslavement of Africans by Europeans is treated as unique - and due to unique moral deficiencies in the West. Thomas Sowell, _Race and Culture: A World View_ (New York: Basic Books, 1994), 221-222. *** Another interesting facet of history which would bear a deeper lesson is the one mentioned on a TV programme some time ago. Several British black families traced their roots through the latest development in DNA mapping. One young man found that his mother’s ancestress came from a tribe who live in Dahomey. The young man visited, was inducted into the tribe during which ceremony he took a tribal name. Next morning a village elder congratulated him. “Ah yes,” said the elder, “You took the name of Tegbesu, he was a good leader in the old days. There was no one to touch him for capturing and selling slaves, he took many prisoners and sold them on. We were rich under his rule.” The boy’s face was a picture as he realised he had chosen the name of the man probably responsible for selling his great, great, ever so many great, Granny. They should also be aware of the trade from east Africa, modern Kenya and Tanzania where slaves and ivory were taken in quantity for many years by Arabs into Arabia and beyond. The BBC mentioned this in passing only last week. We are none of us responsible for the sins of our ancestors. We are only responsible for what we do now. Slavery was wrong, we realised that it was wrong and it was abolished. The US raid on Tunis in 1806 and the efforts of Nelson in the Mediterranean were effective in stopping the work of the Barbary pirates in Western Europe. But not elsewhere. But do not forget, slavery still exists in parts of Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Better to work towards eradication there, than demanding apologies here. In 1807, Britain declared all slave trading illegal. The king of Bonny (in what is now the Nigerian delta) was dismayed at the conclusion of the practice. “We think this trade must go on. That is the verdict of our oracle and the priests. They say that your country, however great, can never stop a trade ordained by God himself.” http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/2735 9
Posted by Scimitar on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:14 | # Does anyone know if Red Ken is by chance related to David Livingstone the great African explorer?
What a crock of bullshit. As some of you may know, I have been hung up on Africa lately, in particular the Congo. The British had no interest in that region until they showed up in the early nineteenth century to 1.) suppress the transatlantic slave trade and 2.) chart the geography of the area to expand the limits of human knowledge. “Slaves” were a commodity that had always been traded there until the British decided to put an end to commerce in human beings. It is only in hindsight that we look back on this and see slavery as a moral problem. Africans were willing to sell Europeans all the slaves they wanted in exchange for liquor, guns, and bling bling. 10
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:55 | # I am sure he’s no relation of Dr David:-
In his more semitically unpopular moments Cuddly Ken has in fact joked that he might be a bit ...
... Jewish. But I can’t see it personally. The thing about Ken is that he is an innovator in Marxist political practise. His first administration, during the early Thatcher period, introduced “the rainbow coalition” of politically manipulated minorities to British politics. The adminstration itself was a beneficiary of entryism. My suspicion is that he took quite a bit at that time from radical revolutionary methodologies but virtually nothing from the mainstay philosophy. He was feeding his emotional, not intellectual needs - and that hasn’t really changed. It’s a pity, of course, that he is understood by London’s white electorate to be a lovable rogue. He repays them with hatred made official policy. 11
Posted by Scimitar on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:34 | # It’s a shame. From David Livingstone to Ken Livingstone. A good measuring stick of Britain’s decline. The former was a remarkable man. I have been reading about him over the past few days. Is there a statue of Livingstone in the area where the one about Mandela is going up?
It was David Livingstone’s reports from Central Africa about the Arab slave trade (which was decimating the region at the time) that stirred up the hornet’s nest in Britain that led to the blockade of Zanzibar. Of course we will never hear of this from the likes of Red Ken or Adam Hochschild. As always, whites are the enemy and the noble savage is his victim. Now, British children are given Communist terrorists like Nelson Mandela to look up to as role models. Disgusting. I wish I could wipe out the 20C and early 21C with an eraser, everything from WW1 to the present. 12
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:49 | #
Amen. Then go back and re-do it all, getting it right this time! I’ve long had exactly the same feeling! 13
Posted by Lurker on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:04 | # GW Still O/T! I still think this site should go in the sidebar: http://www.iamanenglishman.com Just my two pennyworth… 14
Posted by JB on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:18 | #
what a sick little man. a “peaceful transition” ?? the number 1 country on the planet for rapes and murders is Mandela’s rainbow South Africa. That mentally ill commie scum wants London to be like Cape Town ? In a sane world this demented rotten criminal would be expelled from Britain. He should be deported to S.A. 16
Posted by VanSpeyk on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:50 | # And that’s not just some “crazy anti-Semite” talking, it is also the conclusion Yuri Slezkine arrives at in his work “The Jewish Century”. Read MacDonlad’s review of it here: http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/SlezkineRev.pdf 17
Posted by The Bearded Funster on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:53 | # Just to illustrate what a shameless little creep Livingstone really is, he is planning to cut London’s exorbhitant bus fares substantially in the coming months, claiming that fare income was generating too much cash and a rebate was in order. Did anyone say that a GLA election is in the offing next year? 18
Posted by JB on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:09 | #
expect more of that : DNA kits to trace spitting passengers
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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:30 | # Van Speyk has left an excellent comment over at the Occidental Dissent blog:
“With these people no longer living among us all the problems they shriek about would almost instantly dissapear.” Exactly, including the public-health problem of Subcons, Sub-Saharans, and North-African mulattoes disgustingly spitting on bus drivers. Clearly, Van Speyk can be considered a fully-aware individual. He’s got it, got everything down. He understands the problem. As for the regulars over at A Tangled Web, on the other hand ... well ... let’s just say ... they need more work and leave it at that, shall we? ... 20
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:29 | # You’re right, Lurker. An interesting site which I have added to the sidebar. Thanks. 21
Posted by araf -- slow on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:04 | # “Nelson Mandela would signify the peaceful transition to a multiracial and multicultural world and I would be proud to have that in London” What Liv. would have St. Nelson represent is his (L’s) hoped-for transition to a monoracial and monocultural world. St. Nelson only consents with his avuncular laugh as long as the program is detrimental only to Whites - who alone are ‘good-hearted’ enough to accomodate themselves to race-replacement. If the blending-out of the Xhosa or negro ever looked imminent St. Nelson would quickly rediscover his love of human bio-diversity. ALL of the Black and Asian staffers around L. know this and almost all feel the same. All of the Black and Asian journalists reporting on racial affairs across the west know this and almost all feel the same. Fred Scrooby made a comment in another thread today about the (white and non-Jewish) journalist Johann Hari - suggestive that FS thinks JH is J’sh and certainly operating with double-standards re. Js. I think such an effort is wasted. The focus ought to be on the people at the top of the pyramid who only allow the influence of politicians, media, financial, and academic stooges who will conform to those double standards. Even if a minor figure like Hari was discredited by reasoned argument, another shill would take his place tomorrow and be careful not to expose himself in just the same way. 22
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:34 | #
Yes that was what I thought. Araf is right: Googling for Hari’s Jewishness just now, I checked the Wikipedia article on him which said only that he was “an atheist who had criticized [X, Y, and Z] religions,” and I came to this next:
So he’s not Jewish. I don’t think I’ve ever looked the question up, but took it on someone’s say-so, I can’t remember whose: O’Farrell’s maybe? But no matter: there are a billion I might have cited instead who are. And as Araf discusses, Hari’s ilk, whether Jewish or homosexual, are deliberately sought out then elevated to prominence by an overwhelmingly Jewish-controlled press and media pursuing its own agenda. If a man in, say, some North Carolina town complaining about the Mexican immigration invasion cites “Mr. Lopez” in his community as an example of the problem, it doesn’t change anything if Lopez turns out to be a Cuban from Miami: the Mexican invasion is the subject and is real. 23
Posted by Desmond Jones on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:20 | # I’m not Jewish (although a few of my relatives are). What does that really mean? He’s not Jewish as in an atheist or not actually born to the tribe? It’s like looking up Dick Wolf, whose Law and Order is simply a vehicle to bash whitey, at Wiki. What does it say?
However, check out the punim.
...raised a Catholic. Now that’s funny. 24
Posted by Matra on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:12 | # I wonder if Livingstone’s latest stunt will upset his admirer David Duke. A quick search of Hari turns up a few references to Jewish relatives. All of them are suspiciously vague. 25
Posted by Johan Van Vlaams on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:10 | # The Bantu population of South Africa represents a hybrid between modern humans and the archaic African Homo. The result is horrifying for the whites. Indeed, what does Mr. Livingstone say about this: http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/the-black-community.shtml BTW, autism is genetically determined. And the Bantus are a mix with the archaic Homo Africanus, see http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm I quote: The Bantu population of Africa quite likely represents hybrids between modern humans and archaic African Homo. Does anyone have more information about this (Bantu & autism)? But please not this kind of stuff: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article2267671.ece?Submitted=true 26
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:51 | # If you think that Matthew Syed article was bad, Johan, look at this one. 27
Posted by Steve Edwards on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:39 | # From Fred’s linked article are two remarkable fallacies that I was taught in first year anthropology. It took me a few years (learning the laws of logic from scratch, which they deliberately don’t teach you in college): “The so-called races blend together so smoothly that it is unlikely that we will ever find a genetically rigorous demarcation that will allow us to categorise Homo sapiens in the way that we can some other species.” Yes, very smart, isn’t he? Of course, precisely because if the existence of “race” is refuted by the knowledge that human populations ARE on a continuum then he would have to do away with COLOURS too, which are also on a continuum. There is no clear demarkation between red and blue, but that won’t stop Matthew Syed calling his sweater “red” (unless I have him mistaken and he is ALSO a colour denier in addition to being a race denier). “None of this will be of any surprise to those familiar with genetics, which tells us that most genetic variation (around 85 per cent) is to be found within groups rather than between them.” What Mr Syed is really claiming is that if a standard deviation in one data set is larger than the distance between the averages of two data sets, then we can draw no meaningful distinctions between both of them, nor any conclusions henceforth. That’s like saying that you can’t compare the economies of Brazil and Mexico, or that there are no such distinct entities as Brazil or Mexico, because there is more economic variation within them (naturally, the gap between rich and poor in both countries is rather large) than between them. Another obvious example is this - there is more climatic variation WITHIN New South Wales and North Vietnam on one hand, than there is BETWEEN both regions on the other. Presumably, Mr Syed (where is he from, anyway?) will refuse to draw any meaningful distinctions (and impune the motives of anyone who does) between the AVERAGE temperatures, rainfall patterns, etc, of New South Wales and North Vietnam. Why not be a climate denier in addition to a race denier, Mr Syed? “The conclusion is unavoidable: those who invoke race as an explanation of real and perceived differences between humans have an agenda that is other than scientific.” And what, may I ask, can we say of those who take a chainsaw to every applicable law of logic in their zeal to deny the existence of races? 28
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:47 | # Johan, that middle link in your comment was a quite good article. I just finished it. I for one am generally not interested in autism/asperger’s discussions — my eyes glaze over part-way through and I come away wondering why in the world all this explosion of interest in them — but I found the discussions about them in this particular piece riveting. The best thing about this piece was all the preliminary genetic/evolutionary background info leading into the autism/aspie discussion proper, the detailed background discussion of this kind of stuff, for example, as summarized in the article abstract:
Good article! 29
Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:09 | # Fred, I came to the autism issue among Bantus, because during my holidays I read a book about autism and remarked stunning resemblances with the behaviour by blacks in South Africa, at least in the cruel way one can read it in the Afrikaans spoken press. The English spoken press is more under ANC domination/self-censorship so that frequently much interesting details are omitted. 30
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:12 | # Further to Steve’s comment: yes, both those Matthew Syed articles were unusually egregious examples through and through of the most shocking deliberate lying on a subject: the brazen lies came just one after another without let-up the whole way through each piece, right from first word to last. The lies just didn’t stop! It was unfricking believable! You squirmed in your seat reading it, constantly having to restrain your hand from reaching up and mercifully clicking out of the damned thing if only to preserve your sanity! The question I want answered more than what is this piece of excrement’s ethnicity is what is the ethnicity of whoever it was at Timesonline who accepted work of this standard for publication. This piece of intellectual filth, this Syed person (I say “intellectual filth” instead of “intellectual failure” because he knows he’s lying), seems to be some sort of Arab, going by his name. I’ve just looked up his photo, easy to find because he’s the U.K. ping-pong champion: he looks like a Berber type of North African, sort of a Zinedine Zidane type of look, so I’d say he’s a North African Moslem by extraction but he could be a Middle-Eastern Arab instead. Again, what I want to know is who at Timesonline saw fit to publish not one but two op-eds by this piece of intellectual/moral trash? That’s the main thing: when the chimpanzees are running riot you blame the zookeeper who deliberately let them out of their cage, you don’t blame the chimps. 31
Posted by Johan Van Vlaams on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:43 | # Fred, I came to the autism issue among Bantus, because during my holidays I read a book about “autism and persons with a higher IQ” (about 10% of them have a normal or better than normal IQ). By this the difference between IQ and autism characteristics can well be determined and so I remarked stunning resemblances among autism and the behaviour by blacks in South Africa, at least in the cruel way one can read it in the Afrikaans spoken press. The English spoken press is more under ANC domination/self-censorship so that frequently much interesting details are omitted. With resemblances between autism and behaviour by blacks in South Africa, I mean the outbursts of blind anger out of frustration because they (autists or in this case Blacks in South Africa) don’t understand the world/white civilisation around them, or also the way the blacks kill and torture whites in South Africa without feeling remorse or even the repetitive actions (the toi-toi) when these blacks demonstrate… 32
Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:56 | # Syed is a mixed race failed Labour Candidate at the 2001 General Election. The ethnic interests of mixed race people are served by there being more race-mixing. That is Syed’s agenda. That is why he affirms the existence of genetic clines, but not genetic clusters. JW blogged (via me) on genetic similarity within and between populations here, and from an EGI perspective. Johan, I agree that the very high level of violence exhibited in the Farm Murders, truly insane in certain instances, does look pathological ... not politically provoked, for heavens sake, not a consequence of Apartheid, however bad that might have been. It takes a certain something to kill like that ... indeed a blind hatred at work, something unfathomable to the normal European mind. PF put up a post on warfare as waged by SSAs here. In the European, autism is not a particular cause of pathological violence. But you should research the issue. Can your SA contacts point you to any studies from pre-Mandela SA that might form the basis for a JVV post? 33
Posted by Johan Van Vlaams on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:40 | # David, Thank you for being interested. Such as you write, in the European, autism indeed is not a particular cause of pathological violence, at least not predominantly. I thus generally agree with you, but I suppose the reason simply is that among whites only one in the several hundreds suffers from autism. Nevertheless individually there exists violence, because the autist doesn’t understand its neighbourhood and so he gets frustrated. On the other hand, because here in Europe there are so few suffering from autism, the acquaintances can “explain” him that he should not “explode” in anger. Nevertheless, sometimes it goes wrong, see for instance http://autism.about.com/b/a/257808.htm Such as written in the article, there should be “more” that influences the violence. In South Africa this could be the SABC propaganda against whites, where for instance the film “Mississippi Burning” already has been aired tens of times. Litterature about the issue from the time before Mandelatopia is difficult to find, because otherwise the whites in South Africa would certainly have been more cautious…but on discussion forums most realistic South Africans now agree that there must be some genetically reason, see for instance my friend Dan Roodt, such as mentioned here http://www.themedia.co.za/article.aspx?articleid=314071&area;=/media_insightfeatures/ 34
Posted by JB on Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:22 | # speaking of South Africa the Miss Teen USA South Carolina candidate mentioned S.A. two times in her rambling about educamation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII
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Posted by Lurker on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:18 | #
A bit O/T.
This site should go in the sidebar perhaps:
http://www.iamanenglishman.com