Oh, to have been there

Posted by Guessedworker on Wednesday, 06 December 2006 11:09.

As Russia’s fortunes have risen on a tide of oil and gas, he [the Russian president] has become increasingly assertive, even abrasive, in his international dealings.  He recently told startled EU leaders their biggest task was not to lecture Russia on democracy, human rights and energy cooperation but to “safeguard Christianity in Europe”.

From an article by Simon Tisdall in the Guardian.

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Posted by Bo Sears on Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:00 | #

“He recently told startled EU leaders their biggest task was not to lecture Russia on democracy, human rights and energy cooperation but to ‘safeguard Christianity in Europe’.”

Sounds about right to me, not too abrasive, not too assertive. Just a vocabulary the “EU leaders” have lost in their sluttish pandering to everyone but Europeans.


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Posted by Top on Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:09 | #

The more Putin uses the type of language like “safeguard Christianity in Europe” the more he is going to have the media-mafia of the West on his case.  In my opinion, it has nothing to do with human rights, democracy, and all the other buzz words.  The media-mafia does not want to see a nationalistic, strong type leader emerging anywhere in the Christendom.  Just imagine what disaster it would be for the whitey-hating crowd of the West if there was a leader to emerge that they couldn’t corrupt and control. 

That’s not to say Putin is a saint - but he does have question marks about him… and the big money does not like that - that has become apparent in the latest fiasco.


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Posted by Amalek on Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:40 | #

Pres. Putin does not need fluctuations in the oil price to tell the West the score. This has been the common characteristic of Russian leaders (not excluding Stalin) for centuries. Wheteher on the forward or back foot, Russians speak their minds and are more trustworthy in diplomatic dealings than western Europeans.

Putin, who it becomes more obvious daily is far above Blair or Bush in intellect and shrewdness, is freer than his communist predecessors to associate Russian robustness with its true source: Orthodox Christianity.

Like Solzhenitsyn, ‘Russian nationalism’ is at bottom a conviction that the Church is the guarantor of the Russian soul and must be safeguarded even by those who—in Churchill’s terms—support it from without, like flying buttresses. But Putin has become more and more overtly pietistic, surrounding himself with clerics on public occasions and making the sign of the cross. Like Stalin during the Great Patriotic War, he knows he must have believers on side.

Partly this is to parry the rise of Islam on Russia’s fringes and among its client states. Russian spirituality fills the void left by the collapse of faith in the Radiant Future of Lenin and his heirs, and reproaches the Big Mac consumerism that seeped into the country in the Nineties. But Putin’s specific challenge is to the economic and social liberalisers who wreaked havoc in the first years after the fall of Bolshevism, and who are most obviously represented by the oligarchs. Putin’s immense popularity above all stems from taking on traitorous robber barons.

The agitation on behalf of the richest fugitive kleptocrat in the western media, presented as an accusation that the Russian government was complicit in the death of Litvinenko, sounds a tocsin in Moscow: those who financed and fomented the communist catastrophe of 1917 are back to their old tricks. And one need not labour the point about ethnic origins.

How ironic that a former KGB boss should be the most effective defender of Christendom against the mass assault of Islam and the sly subversions of international Jewry. Pope Benedict bends the knee; Vladimir Putin tells the meddlers where they get off.


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Posted by Voice on Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:12 | #

credit where credit is due

Great post, Amalek


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Posted by Amalek on Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:22 | #

Thanks, Voice. I should make it clear (before any smart alec dives in) that I know Stalin was not a Russian, but as their leader he went native big time. Further, I had not realised that Putin formally converted to Christianity 10 or 15 years ago. He must be the most formidable (grozny) Russian Christian leader since Catherine the Great, considering how far above its weight his unhappy, half-ruined country is punching.


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Posted by Bo Sears on Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:31 | #

Purely Hypothetical

This discussion brings up an important issue, and that is how the Great Revulsion will play out when a critical mass is reached.

It is possible that the Great Revulsion will be fueled by religious intensity and resentment, not by Euro birth or ancestry. It won’t make the atheists happy, but for some reason our people seem far more likely to embrace Christianity or a version of it than to embrace their ancestry, ethnicity, EGI, and race per se.

Just an idle thought but based on what Putin said. If he finds Orthodox Christianity a strong enough ship to repel the pirates from the fever swamps, who knows if Christianity will not be the ideological basis in the future for a much better society.

It wouldn’t solve all our problems, but it would erect roadblocks in the path of the great Semitic nations’ influence in our Euro societies. If you want a taste of things to come, Lawrence Auster is openly endorsing “separationism” in his recent postings as something desireable between the Euros and the non-Arabic Semitic nation on one hand, and the non-Judeo Semitic nations on the other hand. It wouldn’t take much for his “separationism,” at least technically, to grow to include all the members of all the great Semitic nations, not just those Auster doesn’t like.

History may not be dead yet.


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Posted by jane on Fri, 08 Dec 2006 01:23 | #

Which kind of Christianity?



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