Posted by notuswind on Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:59 | #

GW,

The total and complete failure of the American conservative movement in the post-war era stands testimony to the fact that nothing can be achieved by those means.

Posted by jamesUK on Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:46 | #

Zionism and Jewish right wing causes like Neo-Conservatism and WN have always been two peas in a pod. The fact that Wilders and other nationalist groups would prostitute themselves to Israeli interests is no surprise.

The New Right or WN parties in EU countries are Europe’s Neo-Conservative movement.

Posted by Gorboduc on Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:53 | #

Perhaps Wilders thinks that it’s enough to fight on one front at a time.

Perhaps it’s time to popularise the term Judaeo-Islamic.

http://www.askwhy.co.uk/truth/b00moslemorigin.php

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/587413/posts

So perhaps the Koran should be read as a sort of gloss on the Talmud.

It’s well known that Spanish jews opened city gates for the invading Isalmic armies…

On the other hand, don’t we wish that a few gunboats in UK waters had seen off crafts full of “activists” coming to visit us in the way that the Israelis did recently?

Posted by Dan Dare on Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:09 | #

I think it would be hard for any except the most ideologically purist to view this as anything other than a positive development.

It would have been preferable had the anti-migration theme in general been emphasised more strongly but in wishing for the perfect we should not disdain the merely good.

Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:18 | #

The final total of Freedom Party seats is twenty-four.  Sixteen per cent of the seats for fifteen and a half per cent of the vote - that’s the Dutch way of proportionality.

Dan,

Of course, it is good.  Any advance is good, and an advance of civicism contains the seeds, at least, of an advance for racialism.  But civicism is just not the real deal, and won’t change the control factors.  Indeed, antagonism to Islam may be one of the control factors.

Posted by Wandrin on Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:30 | #

Taken from another thread

Anyhow, what does the Dutch electorate have that the dumb lumpen proles of Britain do not?, putting PR to one side, why is the average Dutchman more intelligent and informed than the average Briton? is it all down to the Fortuyn and Van Gogh murders?

PR is an important factor.

I’d say the biggest factor is population density. It makes it much harder for the media to cover up what’s going on.

Posted by Captainchaos on Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:53 | #

are all the English moronic coke-smorting, footie and Eastenders fixated, shaven headed tossers?

Maybe the Dutch have the good sense not to let their hedonist’s fodder be stripped from them and therefore wish the prevent the arrival of the Caliphate.

Posted by jamesUK on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:05 | #

@Søren Renner, Gorboduc & Dan Dare

You don’t have to go back hundreds of years to prove of an alliance between Jews and Islam pick a conflict today where Muslims are fighting Christians and I will show to leading Jewish people behind them although the major EU countries are behind the Muslim conquest that hypocritical suddenly have an Islamophobia fear at home.

Latest revelation in the Karadicz show trial is that the US helped arm Bosnian Muslim jihadist and transfer Iranian weapons and that Bosnian Muslims tried to acquire nuclear weapons.
 

Will that CHICKEN SHIT WILDERS back the Dutch peacekeepers on behalf of the Serbs when they testify on behalf of Karadzic debunking the Srebrenica mile?  I think not.

http://de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=2299

Here is a video commemorating a REAL hero who fought against Muslim dominion in Europe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2UbxrKCzRc

Posted by graham_lister on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:05 | #

GW RE: INTERVIEWS & SOUND LEVELS

Off topic but might AUDACITY help? see

http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=4784

Posted by Caspar on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:35 | #

It’s about “the Judeo-Christian heritage” rather than racial preservation.

Regarding racial preservation, what about this statement: “I was repelled by the conglomeration of races which the capital showed me, repelled by this whole mixture of Czechs, Poles, Hungarians, Ruthenians, Serbs, and Croats…”

Adolph Hitler was a racist toward these people!

So, my question to you: are they not whites?!!

Posted by fellist on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:40 | #

civicism contains the seeds, at least, of an advance for racialism

Only in the way that adding milk to tea does so for Englishmen. Wilders’s establishment party ‘rivals’ are civicists, he differs only in more effectively neutralising nationalist sentiment and building hostility to the Muslim world—both effects surely welcomed by tptb.

Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:13 | #

fellist,

The seed in question is the possibility that civicism might become an Establishment thesis, in which event the hegelian antithesis can be stated from the racialist position.

Posted by Grimoire on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:22 | #

The rise of ethnic right/republican political force will only grow and accelerate. Get used to it.

Do not expect it to be without struggle and frustration. TPTB will continue to infiltrate. bribe, coerce, assassinate, blackmail, poison, frame and attempt to control and steer events and groups towards their own ends.

Posted by Gorboduc on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:05 | #

Thanks, Soren.
Similarities between Islam and Judaism abound: theories of ritual uncleanliness, dietary prescriptions, a unitarian deity, notions that other peoples’s women are up for grabs, a general tolerance of terrorism, vengeance and mass murder, and a clear belief that God’s will is best carried out by the mailed fist.
The famous words uttered by Creveld could come from the tongue of many an Islamic demagogue.
The two systems may well be twins.

On the other hand, Islamics don’t like usury, Jews thrive on it.

This link is interesting: it seems that Jewish novelists have been devising terorist atrocities for Moslems to carry out for some time, and that the hints are being taken:

http://libback.uqu.edu.sa/hipres/magz/3200004-8.pdf

Posted by the Narrator... on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:40 | #

it seems that Jewish novelists have been devising terorist atrocities for Moslems to carry out for some time, and that the hints are being taken:

Posted by Gorboduc on June 11, 2010, 12:05 PM

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“On June 9, 721 ad., Duke Odo of Aquitaine defeated Al-Samh ibn Malik al-Khawlani before the walls of the besieged city of Toulouse. This battle, followed by the victories of King Pelayo of Asturias and Charles Martel at the battles of Covadonga and Tours, brought to an end a century of remarkably successful Islamic expansion. Over the next 760 years, the Umayyads’ conquests on the Spanish peninsula were gradually rolled back by a succession of Christian kings, a long process disturbed by the usual shifting of alliances as well as varying degrees of ambition and military competence on both sides of the religious divide. The “Reconquista” was completed with the fall of Muslim Granada in 1492 to the Castilian forces of King Ferdinand.

  The Spanish Inquisition, which began in 1481, cannot be understood without recognizing the significance of this epic 771-year struggle between Christians and Muslims over the Spanish peninsula. What took the great Berber Gen. Tariq ibn Zayid only eight years to conquer on behalf of the Umayyad Caliphate required almost 100 times as long to regain, and neither King Ferdinand II of Aragon nor his wife, Queen Isabella of Castile, was inclined to risk any possibility of having to repeat the grand endeavor. Isabella, in particular, was concerned about reports of conversos, purported Christians who had pretended to convert from Judaism but were still practicing their former religion. This was troubling, as it was reasonable to assume that those who were lying about their religious conversion were also lying about their loyalty to the united crowns and it was widely feared that Jews were again encouraging Muslim leaders to attempt the recapture of al-Andalus, as they had its original capture eight centuries before.

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(“It remains a fact that the Jews, either directly or through their coreligionists in Africa, encouraged the Mohammedans to conquer Spain.”
-The Jewish Encyclopedia (1906). Vol XI, 485.)

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  What happened in between November 1478 and September 1480 to inspire this sudden burst of action? While historians such as Henry Kamen pronounce themselves baffled as to what could have provoked the Spanish crown, the most likely impetus was that on July 28, three months before Ferdinand’s decision to appoint the two inquisitors, a Turkish fleet led by Gedik Ahmed Pasha attacked the Aragonese city of Otranto. Otranto fell on Aug. 11, and more than half of the city’s 20,000 people were slaughtered during the sack of the city. The archbishop was killed in the cathedral, and the garrison commander was killed by being sawed in half, alive, as was a bishop named Stephen Pendinelli. But the most infamous event was when the captured men of Otranto were given the choice to convert to Islam or die; 800 of them held to their Christian faith and were beheaded en masse at a place now known as the Hill of the Martyrs. The Turkish fleet then went on to attack the cities of Vieste, Lecce, Taranto and Brindisi and destroyed the great library at the Monastero di San Nicholas di Casole before returning to Ottoman territory in November.

  It is one of the great ironies of history that three times more people died in the forgotten event that almost surely inspired the Spanish Inquisition than died in the famous flames of the inquisition itself. Despite its reputation as one of the most vicious and lethal institutions in human history, the Spanish Inquisition was one of the most humane and decent of its time, and one could even argue the most reasonable, considering the circumstances.”

-http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=56045

Posted by 'Heigh-Ho!', sings Andy Neather on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:57 | #

I just wish Wilders would ditch that aburd ‘18th century white powdered wig imitation’ of a hair-do, and go to a proper gents’ barber’s instead.

Posted by Wandrin on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:23 | #

Caspar

Adolph Hitler was a racist toward these people! So, my question to you: are they not whites?!!

jews are stealth hyper-racialist. They hide it because if they didn’t everyone would consider them a potential threat. In theory the best way for a nation to combat them is to become as hyper-racialist as they are. To my mind Hitler saw the threat to Germany from the jews and their Soviet golem and reacted instinctively to it by becoming as hyper-racial as the jews. That is too much. If every nation on earth became exactly like the jews - but openly - the whole world would be plunged into a permanent war of extermination.

I prefer a 98% solution.

(I see islam as initially the same. I assume jews dominated the trade of the arabian peninsular and Mo wanted a way to defeat them and so he came up with an Arab version of judaism, hyper-racial Arab nationalism wrapped up in a spiritual / religious cloak of the Arabs being the chosen people / master race. It’s morphed since then into the religion itself being the nation but that’s basically what islam is to my mind - an unstealthed version of judaism.)

Posted by Wandrin on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:25 | #

fellist

Wilders’s establishment party ‘rivals’ are civicists, he differs only in more effectively neutralising nationalist sentiment and building hostility to the Muslim world—both effects surely welcomed by tptb.

This is definitely true however if the positions currently are roughly:

Left-liberal - immigration is good
Conservative - immigration is good but numbers must be controlled for practical reasons like housing
Civic Nationalist - immigration is good except when the immigrants don’t subscribe to certain values
***Modified Civic Nationalist - immigration is bad unless immigrants subscribe to certain values
Ethno-nationalist - diversity kills

The way i see it is it’s easier to persuade someone who is conservative on immigration to take a civic nationalist position than it is to persuade them to become an ethno-nationalist in one step. And then once they’re a civic nationalist it’s easier to persuade them to become a modified civic nationalist etc.

If i was Dutch i’d consider helping out with Gilder’s party but when talking to people instead of saying “immigration is good apart from radical muslims” i’d say “immigration should be looked at in a cost / benefit way and radical muslims are an extreme example of more cost than benefit.” The cost / benefit argument can then be extended.

I think that makes sense for an individual “agitator.” I’m less sure it’s a good idea for an organisation.

In fact ethno-nationalism could be defined as a version of civic nationalism along a sliding scale. For example if you took the view that genetic closeness maximizes group altruism and you value group altruism as a critically important public good then an ethno-nationalist immigration points system might be something like:

immigration value = mb + ri - gd

where immigration value was a number greater than zero, mb was material benefit i.e skills and education, ri was a small, risk of inbreeding index that went up and down over time and gd was a large value for genetic distance. The value of gd could be infinite if you wanted a 100% solution.

Not very inspiring maybe but pragmatic.

Posted by Wandrin on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:27 | #

It is one of the great ironies of history that three times more people died in the forgotten event that almost surely inspired the Spanish Inquisition than died in the famous flames of the inquisition itself. Despite its reputation as one of the most vicious and lethal institutions in human history, the Spanish Inquisition was one of the most humane and decent of its time, and one could even argue the most reasonable, considering the circumstances.

So much hidden history.

Posted by Caspar on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:38 | #

Guessedworker said: “his Islamophobia, ... shifts the focus to cultural rather than racial preservation.  It’s about “the Judeo-Christian heritage”....”

Regarding racial preservation, what about this statement:

”I was repelled by the conglomeration of races which the capital showed me, repelled by this whole mixture of Czechs, Poles, Hungarians, Ruthenians, Serbs, and Croats…”
Adolph Hitler was a racist toward these people! So, my question to you: are they not whites?!!

Posted by PF on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:57 | #

Wandrin wrote:

immigration value = mb + ri - gd

where immigration value was a number greater than zero, mb was material benefit i.e skills and education, ri was a small, risk of inbreeding index that went up and down over time and gd was a large value for genetic distance. The value of gd could be infinite if you wanted a 100% solution.

Not very inspiring maybe but pragmatic.

Damn, that is interesting. An equation that quantifies the relationship between an individual in a polity and the ethnic interests of the nation which the state (theoretically) would exist to protect. That allows for even more profound degrees of differentiation than a 1- or 2- or 3-tiered ‘degree of citizenship’ status and can reconcile the overseas half-nationals (the half brits, half poles, half germans) abroad by conferring some variable degree of nationality. Its light years ahead of what is possible in our time and among our governments, but it is an idea which a practical survey of the problems existing really would have to admit as necessary IMO.

One imagines the protestation, demanding more nuance: ‘You cant sum a person up by a number!’. Anything to augur more freedom for the putative individual in our universalist thought world, which they will promptly waste becoming either deadened sitcom watchers or other varieties of people whose behaviors are in the main 90% predictable - enslaved to whatever constellation of forces they happen to grow up around - as long as we haven’t pre-arranged these forces we can maintain the pretence of freedom. Its basically agreeing to never have a collective will, and proudly letting ourselves be shaped by dominant market forces and media constellations - this is man’s freedom, not to be under the sway of anyone who cares for him paternally, but instead the winds of the marketplace, aka Rupert Murdoch and MTV. My gear bubbleth over.

Posted by 'Heigh-Ho' sings Andy Neather. on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:59 | #

Not quite the same thing, but I read today that, currently, at this very moment 50% of live births in the USA are non-White - for the first time since records began in that nation.
A predictable and long-running trend for sure, any straightforward graph extrapolation could have seen it coming decades ago, but a milestone nvertheles, more significant, in fact, than the milestone of a non-White majorty USA that is only a generation or so hence.
Such a portentious and significant moment, but hardly registered on the media’s radar what with the chavvy World Cup obsession hogging every minute of newstime.If nothing else it means that the World’s most formidable arsenal of atomic weapons will be in non-White hands very soon.
And, oh, to the deniers out there who somehow think things can be ‘turned around’, just forget it.Your gose is cooked, it’s a done deal, the rubicon has been crossed, the point of no retrn passed, so farewell to the Republic of 1776, what you’ve lasted only 234 years, scarcely a pin-prick to Rome’s thousands, yes you shook the world, but ‘nature’ (ie in terms of the ‘aboriginal peoples’ - mestizos, has come and claimed you back).
Anyway enough of he pontificating and ire-raising, and cutting straight to the moral of the story.As recently as 1970 the USA was 90% White (the Whitest it had ever been in fact, and 90% of births were White).It only took 40 short years , shitty politicians and mass immigration to wreak its damage.England, are you listening, yoo’re at the same juncture, with the same trends the USA was at 35 years ago, but you chose, en masse, to reject the BNP, the only people who dared do anything.

Posted by jamesUK on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:38 | #

@Heigh-Ho

White teen moms are having babies in the US

Is MTV causing teen pregnancy rise?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5XrPap2O6M

But also non-white teenagers.

Planned teen pregnancies frequent in US

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPAe5JKQ27w

Posted by Lurker on Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:24 | #

Good point by Wandrin.

Vegetarians gain converts from the majority omnivorous population. Vegans in turn gain converts from the vegetarian population. But few people become vegans without being vegetarians first.

Then there are frutarians. I suspect very few frutarians were not already vegans or certainly vegetarians to start with.

Maybe Wilders can up the number of ‘vegetarians’.

Posted by Caspar on Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:17 | #

Charles Martel had, by his victory at Poitiers, halted the Arab thrust against Western Christendom on the line of the Pyrenees.

Also important in halting the Arab advance into the heart of Europe was the rejection by the Khazars of Islam in favor of Judaism around the year 740. They stopped the Arab expansion into Eastern Europe. Had the Khazars, like their fellow Turks, accepted Islam, the Muslim religion might have been swept into Eastern Europe!

Have you guys ever thought about this?

BTW Guessedworker has still not answered my question in my previous post.

Posted by MOB on Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:52 | #

Does Wilders Matter?

http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/howoddofgod.htm

Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:23 | #

Caspar, I do not find your question interesting.  I can’t imagine why the answer isn’t obvious to you.  Do I really have to spell out the difference between Europe and America?

Posted by Bill on Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:28 | #

Controversy of Zion  Dougls Reed. (On-line)

Chapter 19

.........“The French revolution was the world-revolution in action, not a revolution in France. From the moment of the event in France no doubt remains on that score. Before then people might indulge notions about suffering peasants, stung to sudden uprising by arrogant aristocrats and the like, but diligent study of the background of the French revolution dispels such illusions. It was the result of a plan and the work of a secret organization revealed before it occurred; it was not merely a French outburst produced by French causes. The plan behind it is the plan of Communism today; and Communism today, which is the world-revolution in permanence, has inherited the organization which evolved the plan.

The French revolution of 1789 is the one that provides the key to the mystery. It forms the link between the English one of 1640 and the Russian one of 1917 and reveals the whole process as a planned and continuing one which, having passed through these three stages, clearly will reach its final orgasm at some moment not far distant, probably during this century. That climax, foreseeably, will take the shape of an attempt to consummate and complete the worldrevolution by setting up a world-government under the control of the organization which has guided the revolutionary process from its start. This would establish the sway of a new ruling-class over the submerged nations. (As Dr. Kastein would say, it would “determine the fate of the whole world”)......

http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Douglas.Reed/The.Controversy.of.Zion/19.The.World.Revolution.htm

Posted by Wandrin on Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:17 | #

Does Wilders Matter?  http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/howoddofgod.htm

I’m really liking Reed.

Posted by jamesUK on Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:45 | #

Is Wilders a Golem?

Posted by Wandrin on Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:56 | #

Is Wilders a Golem?

I read somehwere he’s half-jewish? I assume he identifies as jewish and realises jews importing muslims into Europe is insane from a jewish point of view. I think they’re split on this with the majority currently believing it will work out like the Ottoman empire in the middle ages and a minority realising it will end in disaster both for them and Israel.

So my guess is he’s just a sensible jew rather than a non-jewish golem, but i could be wrong.

Posted by Sam Davidson on Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:58 | #

The Wilders affair shows that one’s politics are not as important as paying homage to the Jews. The fix is in.

Posted by jamesUK on Sun, 13 Jun 2010 04:03 | #

@Wandrin

It didn’t mean if he has any Jewish ancestry or not that really makes no difference in fact with the latest Israeli incident I was surprised at the level of Jews protesting against Israel in the US.

What I meant was is he being used by the Neocons and organised Jewish political bodies for an anti-Islamic agenda for Jewish interests like Senator Henry M. “Scoop” Jackson to pass the Jackson-Vanik amendment during the Cold War hoax which J-V is still in effect today?

http://www.ncsj.org/AuxPages/JV-background.shtml

Are they not just recycling what they did during the 80’s replacing Communists with Islamists?

Can’t say I am surprised with the likes of Wilders and Griffin and other nationalist parties in Europe supporting Israel and Jewish interests which I predicted a while ago that leading Jewish figures with affiliation with Neocons and Israel would become senior figures in the WN movement and political parties which are two peas in a pod as both are identical in there outlook and ideas. The only difference is that organised Jewry was able to form alliances with minority groups to strengthen there own political agenda.

Posted by GT on Sun, 13 Jun 2010 06:38 | #

I must laugh at the spiritualists in this thread who are desperately seeking Signs of Civicist Resurgence in America’s national political scene and in the “American” –dominated political arenas of Europe.

In 1948 the southern Dixiecrat Strom Thurmond won 1.17 million votes.  Twenty years later the American Independent Party’s Wallace/LeMay ticket won 9.9 million votes, 46 electoral votes, and had proved itself to be the most popular ticket of all among young men.  By 1972 the AIP’s Schmitz/Anderson ticket garnered only 1.1 million votes.  There is no question that jewish power, though extensive, was considerably less penetrative of our societal fabric in 1968 than it is now.  Judging by the popular and electoral votes won by George C. Wallace, the prospect of an E-Z Money White Political Resurgence was greater at that time than at any time since.  Since that time we’ve seen forced integration of our communities and housing, codified reverse-discrimination in employment, education, taxes, and crime, a substantive decline in real wages, offshoring of most our manufacturing, the degradation of our infrastructure, the Third Worldization of our cities, an endless war for Israel, and the relegation/marginalization of White Resistance to the Internet fringe.  What happened to the Great White Resurgence of 1968, fellas? 

Recent gains in the popular vote for the BNP are little better, percentage-wise, than that received by the Schmitz/Anderson ticket in 1972.  Gert Wilder’s “civicist” gain in the teeny tiny Netherlands, though greater in terms of percentage than that received by the racialist AIP of 1968, is hardly reason to celebrate.  Why?  Well, where are Austria’s Jorge Haider and Dutchland’s Pim Fortuyn nowadays?  Haider won an Austrian governorship twice and formed a short-lived coalition government at the national level.  Wow, let’s celebrate!  Unfortunately the playboy and the homosexual are safely dead.  Not that that matters very much.  Who would have expected the conservative, jew-wise Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew administration to implement “affirmative”-action back in the early ‘70’s?  When the ultra-conservative Ronny Raygun won the American Presidency in 1980 who would have expected him to legalize the first batch of illegal aliens in 1986?  (Probably the same people who were surprised to learn that Strom Thurmond and John Schmitz’ whacky daughter chose underage Negro sex partners “back in the day.”)

Posted by Grimoire on Sun, 13 Jun 2010 09:38 | #

Sure the fix is in. Everyone in Europe, left or right,  knows Wilders is crypto/shabbas goy. It changes nothing, What type of European politician peroxides his hair to the extent that only one look confirms something amiss?

It changes nothing. Keep up the good work Geert! If I could I would vote for PVV. I welcome him and wish him success. I’m continually impressed with the growing evidence of the day by day ramshackle and shoddy nature of the illusion. It had seen it’s best last days with the Austrian and German diaspora circus. Their skill at subtle manipulation and misdirection, the understanding of psychology and imagination was impressive indeed. It seems this fund was exhausted and spent by the apparent limitless American/Russian and Israeli adventure. Somewhere they became comforted by the idea that because the likes of us all seem to believe the lies, they could afford to relax and believe also in contemporary living sainthood.

Nowadays the grand circus of der roten schild resembles little more than a cheap American cable access show. The wheels are visibly bald, the brakes smoke, the oil leaks while the radiator gushes steam and rust cascades from the chassis to the pavement.

They grow weaker while we grow stronger. Naturally they join us. Our gratitude for help, solving the problem they forced upon us, is boundless. Strange days ahead!

Posted by Wandrin on Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:21 | #

@JamesUK

It didn’t mean if he has any Jewish ancestry or not that really makes no difference in fact with the latest Israeli incident I was surprised at the level of Jews protesting against Israel in the US.

Ah ok, when i use the word “golem” i mean people who are being manipulated into serving jewish interests without them realising - like Britain and America in Iraq and Afghanistan. To my mind Wilders isn’t being manipulated so he’s not a golem but that’s just my definition.

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/r/rabbi_loeb.html

There was a new danger brewing in Prague; a notorious priest, Taddeush, planned to accuse the Jews of a new “ritual murder.” Rabbi Loeb heard about it, and to avert the horrible danger, directed a dream question to heaven to help him save his people.

The simple meaning was: Make a Golem of clay and you will destroy the entire Jew-baiting company.

Posted by Bill on Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:31 | #

It is a great blow to learn in the twilight of one’s life that your whole perception of the world as you have known it has been a lie, a charade, a manipulation.

How can you counter that?

The whole of this conspiracy, (and you cannot call it any other) has relied mainly on the ability of circumstance of either controlling the means of mass communication (of the day) and/or having the supreme ability,  Svengali like, to persuade, coerce, cajole by whatever means, humans of all abilities and rank to do one’s bidding, or in finality, terrorising one’s victim.

This conspiracy movement also must be adept at exploiting whatever unexpected windfall that comes their way.  It is most difficult for the observer to be certain what is fortuitous and what is engineered - to further the cause.

The entering of the high-tech civilisation of the past 200? years has aided their cause immensely but perhaps it is with irony that as civilisation has progressed, they have availed (their) technology to their intended victim and has introduced a possibility for the victims to redress the balance.

Conspiracies have a beginning, a middle and a conclusion.  It is manifestly apparent we are nearing the conclusion of this conspiracy, the perpetrators can no longer mask their intentions.  The battle lines are drawn, the actors are in place, the curtain is about to be lifted.

It is to this end I ask why has this seemingly invincible unstoppable machine provided its victims the means of resistance and maybe even its undoing?

Why are the conspirators so confident (arrogant) of success?

Once the cat is out of the bag, it’s a different ball game, as Blair once said, the rules of the game have been changed.  The victims have become aware of the intended fate that awaitens them.

With a fair degree of accuracy, those aware victims can now observe the the game unravel on a hour by hour, day by day basis.  It is on such websites as here at MR the victims (and the perps) can play out their game of chess.  Bear in mind the perps (or some of them,) are grand masters at the game.

The game is no longer one-sided, no longer is it slowly-slowly catchee monkey - the games afoot.

The game is still heavily weighted in the perps favour, but as more and more victims become aware, the odds begin to even out.

Posted by Wandrin on Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:36 | #

GT

I must laugh at the spiritualists in this thread who are desperately seeking Signs of Civicist Resurgence in America’s national political scene and in the “American” –dominated political arenas of Europe.

After WWII jews directed their media influence, especially in America, to the psychological saturation bombing of white ethno-centricity and it worked. By the the late 60s they’d broken the back of natural resistance.

The trouble is race is real and it matters. If you replace Europeans with Pakistanis you get Pakistan. If you replace Americans with Mexicans you get Mexico. Everything is starting to crumble.

It will be bad now whatever happens because of all the damage that’s been done but it’s definitely not over till the fat lady sings.

Posted by GT on Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:39 | #

Wandrin,

After WWII jews directed their media influence, especially in America, to the psychological saturation bombing of white ethno-centricity and it worked. By the the late 60s they’d broken the back of natural resistance.

That’s the Pierce narrative. I buy very little of it. In 1968 the AIP received 9.9 million popular votes and 46 electoral votes.  The Wallace ticket was extremely popular among young men age 21-27; more popular, in fact, than were the Nixon and Humphrey tickets. This popular vote did not include the many millions young and old who strongly sympathized with Wallace but voted for Nixon from fear of a Humphrey victory.  This 9.9 million was our core, resurgent despite a massive propaganda campaign specifically directed against it, stronger than ever before (or since) in this country, and then…poof!…gone in four years.  All of this happened before forced busing, codified reverse-discrimination, no-fault divorce, sexual harassment suits, and hate crime legislation.  Had it grown jewish penetration of white gentile society would be considerably less than it is now, if not rolled back entirely.  America and Europe would be freer, if not free.  GW and others would not now be making fools of themselves celebrating the tenuous and fleeting “gains” of the BNP and the Sailer-like “civicism” of the Freedom Party.  So what happened to that core resistance of 1968?  Two things: 1. Failure in White leadership.  2.  Failure in White behavior.  Few now will address these topics for the best explanation for both is that there is a genetically-based flaw in white character and thus, within ourselves.

Posted by GT on Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:35 | #

The entering of the high-tech civilisation of the past 200? years has aided their cause immensely but perhaps it is with irony that as civilisation has progressed, they have availed (their) technology to their intended victim and has introduced a possibility for the victims to redress the balance.

Our industrial-high technological civilization aided the parasite by positively selecting for child-like docility in the gentile host over a period of four to seven generations, with technology creating a feedback loop which amplified the results.  Fratricidal warfare in the 19th and 20th centuries negatively selected for docility by killing of the non-docile members of our race with technology, once again, creating a feedback loop which amplified the results on the battlefield and during occupation.  Even should we succeed in gathering and organizing the relatively few worthwhile remnants of the white race – an unlikely prospect at best - much more than simple reliance upon the enemy’s imperfection and fallibility will be required to “redress the balance.”

Posted by Wandrin on Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:14 | #

This 9.9 million was our core, resurgent despite a massive propaganda campaign specifically directed against it, stronger than ever before (or since) in this country, and then…poof!…gone in four years.

I’m not surprised at that. I think what happened post-war was a battle between natural, instinctive racialism and the multicult. Things built up to a climactic point, the losers got demoralized and dissipated while the victors secured the ground.

Two things: 1. Failure in White leadership.  2.  Failure in White behavior.  Few now will address these topics for the best explanation for both is that there is a genetically-based flaw in white character and thus, within ourselves.

I think that’s true except i think the flaws are susceptibility to rational argument and guilt-based conditioning (and guilt based on not being rational enough). If only 15% of white people are naturally racial enough to withstand the rational argument (racialsm is an irrational prejudice against skin colour) and the moral conditioning (racialism leads to world wars and millions getting killed) then it’s not surprising that 15% eventually gets disheartened.

If there’s a solution (and maybe there isn’t) i think it will involve working with our nature instead of against it, focusing on scientific explanations combined with an attempt to take back the moral high ground.

Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:52 | #

Wandrin:

If there’s a solution (and maybe there isn’t) i think it will involve working with our nature instead of against it, focusing on scientific explanations combined with an attempt to take back the moral high ground.

I agree, and I would use everything that is of our nature that can possibly be used, including both the will to fairness and justice and the will to individualism in the form of material progress and prosperity.  There is nothing that is true of us that we need to leave in the enemy camp.

Posted by Lurker on Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:15 | #

Two things: 1. Failure in White leadership.  2.  Failure in White behavior.  Few now will address these topics for the best explanation for both is that there is a genetically-based flaw in white character and thus, within ourselves.

Then why didnt all this happen in 1868 or 1768 or whenever?

Posted by Q on Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:00 | #

Two things: 1. Failure in White leadership.  2.  Failure in White behavior.  Few now will address these topics for the best explanation for both is that there is a genetically-based flaw in white character and thus, within ourselves.

Then why didnt all this happen in 1868 or 1768 or whenever?

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Twofold answer:

1) Immigration and integration of the races are different now than the ambience of the past. The races were separated by law and geographically.

2) The industrial revolution divided the man from his family and wife. The man went out of the home to work for a living while the wife stayed at home to raise the kids. Before that happened both husband and wife were at home to raise the kids; they were a family unit.

Now, in most cases, both parents are away from the home working. The government is the nanny. We all know what the nannies are feeding white childrens’ minds don’t we?

Maybe peak oil will solve the problem?

Posted by Grimoire on Mon, 14 Jun 2010 04:41 | #

When has a dragon ever died of a snakes poison.

Nietzsche

Posted by Caspar on Mon, 14 Jun 2010 08:03 | #

Wandrin said: “I’m really liking Reed.”

Reed: I have never had a Jewish friend. I never shall. I could, if Jews were Jews, subjects of a Jew state (...)
There are two bitterly antagonistic schools of Jewish thought. One is for assimilation, for ignoring that unbridgeable gulf fixed by the Jewish faith, for settling in the midst of the Christian communities and the various nations, and taking on their forms of life and characteristics.(...)
The other Jewish school of thought is for boldly accepting the truth, that Jews are Jews and unassimilable, for setting up a National Jewish state somewhere of which all Jews should be subjects.

It is, in my view, the solution and ought at all cost to be done.

Posted by Desmond Jones on Mon, 14 Jun 2010 08:23 | #

This 9.9 million was our core

Yes, but only in the ‘very heart of the great Anglo-Saxon Southland’. The majority of Italians and Slavs voted for Humphrey. There was no failure in White behavior because there was no “White” behavior. Italians and Slavs aligned with Jews and Negroes in opposition to the “White” resurgence in the ‘great Anglo-Saxon Southland’.

“It is very appropriate that from this cradle of the Confederacy, this very heart of the great Anglo-Saxon Southland, that today we sound the drum for freedom as have our generations of forebears before us time and again down through history. Let us rise to the call for freedom-loving blood that is in us and send our answer to the tyranny that clanks its chains upon the South. In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.”

Posted by Sam Davidson on Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:03 | #

Remember - George Wallace was only a politician. He used racialism to get votes.

But very little is ever simple and the story of George Wallace is no exception. At the start of his political rise, he was a liberal, indeed, he was considered the one of the most liberal judges in Alabama, a moderate on racial issues.

...George Wallace came back to the district after the defeat, back to our county, and he asked me if I would come over to his office and talk with him. So I did. And he said, “Seymore, you know why I lost that governor’s race?” I said, “I’m not sure, uh, Judge. What do you think?” He said, “Seymore, I was outniggered by John Patterson. And I’ll tell you here and now, I will never be outniggered again.”

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/wallace/filmmore/transcript/index.html

Posted by Wandrin on Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:53 | #

Then why didnt all this happen in 1868 or 1768 or whenever?

There’s more than one reason no doubt but i think the biggest is the invention of cinema and television, their capture by a hostile ethnic group, and their use by that group as a psychological weapon against white people.

Posted by Wandrin on Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:55 | #

Caspar

I have never had a Jewish friend.

I had a lot in the past, except now i think i was their friend but they weren’t mine.