Catholics for Islam

Posted by Guest Blogger on Thursday, 06 October 2005 12:04.

This story has already done the rounds on a couple of websites. But I thought it significant enough to also get a run here.

In short, there is a Catholic Center at New York University. An attendee of a Catholic retreat at the centre was surprised to find that the opening prayer was made not only to Jesus but also to Muhammad.

He was even more disconcerted to find that the Catholic Center hosted in its basement an Islamic Cultural Centre, complete with prayer rugs, pictures of Mecca and Islamic literature.

So here we have the the ecumenical spirit turned up to full blast. And what was the response of the Muslim side to all this? Did they give equally in return?

It seems not. Our man in the mini-mosque picked up a magazine and leafed through it. This is what the magazine had to say about the Muslim invasion of Spain in 711,

“The Muslims could not abandon the people who had been living in a state of strife and oppression. The Christians and Jews welcomed this (the invasion led by Tariq bin Ziad) since, as dhimmis, they were allowed to enter the fields of government, science, medicine and literature and were afforded the protection of the state with the payment of the jizya tax.”

A nice rewriting of history, isn’t it. We Europeans welcomed our Muslim conquerors and our reduction to the status of dhimmis (who, by the way, were forbidden from holding public office, could not build new churches or repair old ones, and had to pay a poll tax).

So the situation is this: one side is yielding its own identity, the other can only conceive the blessings of its own victory.

It’s not hard to figure out who has the advantage under these terms of engagement.

Tags: Islam & Islamification

Comments:

Posted by Johan Van Vlaams on Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:30 | #

In fact under Islamic pressure, crosses have recently been removed out of all public places in Belgium.

Posted by Mark Richardson on Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:30 | #

Here is an interview with Abu Bakar Bashir:

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=2&subID=46

Highlights:

Interviewer: What can the West ... do to make the world more peaceful?

Bashir: They have to stop fighting Islam. That’s impossible because it’s destiny, as Allah has said in the Koran. If they want to have peace, they have to accept to be governed by Islam.

Posted by Pericles on Fri, 07 Oct 2005 00:54 | #

PAX ROMANA

“If you would have peace, prepare for war”

There are only one billion Muslims worldwide. They are outnumbered five to one. We know where they live. We can turn sand to glass.

Pericles

Posted by R J Stove on Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:36 | #

And let us not forget Amos Luzzatto, Chair of the Italian Union of Jewish Communities (UCEI), with his current crusade - no other word seems adequate - to outlaw the crucifix in Italian public life. Full report here, if your stomach can stop quivering for long enough to let you read it:

http://www.fatima.org/perspectives/latest/perspective501.asp

Posted by Lurker on Fri, 07 Oct 2005 09:07 | #

Re Italy.

Silly me, I thought the establishment of Israel was supposed to be the cure for this sort of thing. Unhappy in Christian lands? Then off to Israel with you. But it would seem that whats theirs is theirs and whats ours is…....theirs too!

Of course here we have the quisling Chris Doyle telling us that muslims are unhappy with the English flag. Well, they know what they can do about that, especially in the age of cheap air travel and numerous internet travel agents.

Posted by Andrew on Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:09 | #

That speech was taken out of context; it was edited and cut to make it sound bad, hmm. That claim has not been made yet. Why are we Hurried up and kept Waiting and waiting and waiting, what more do our “Leaders” Need? Or are we meant to be gone.

Posted by Andrew on Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:52 | #

This is a big read, but the whole argument is in some perspective.
http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/index.html