I’ve got one that can SEE: Jimmy Carter

Posted by James Bowery on Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:25.

One of my favorite moments in cinema history is during John Carpenter’s suppressed movie “They Live” when the protagonist puts on the “Hoffman lens” he found, allowing him to see which of the populus are aliens.

As he starts realizing there are aliens walking among us, an ugly short woman dressed in fine furs and jewels scowls into a watch radio: “I’ve got one that can SEE!” before pushing a button and disappearing in a flash.

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It’s one of my favorite moments in modern myth because it is so frequently applicable.  For example, let’s take Jimmy Carter’s recent defense of Palestinians.  This has resulted in suspicions that he can SEE and a full investigation of any history of behavior on Carter’s part that may support the theory he was harboring a working pair of eyes while pretending to be a legitimate head of state:

When you tie this in with what he says about the Jewish lobby, it just exposes where his heart really lies.”...“He’s an extremely vain and an extremely stubborn man,” Mr. Sher said. “He has hostility not only toward Israel, but toward American Jews and the pro-Israel community. The venom is starting to come out. Jimmy Carter once told us that he has lust in his heart. We all have to wonder what else is lurking in there?”

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Posted by Robert ap Richard on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:32 | #

“Suppressed”?  Are you kidding?  This movie is unknown because it is so poorly acted and directed.


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Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:26 | #

Look at <a >The Numbers</a>.


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Posted by Bud White on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:36 | #

“This movie is unknown because it is so poorly acted and directed.”

What are you talking about??? Rowdy Roddy Piper was brilliant in his performance! He was definitely robbed for the best actor category at the Oscars.


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Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:04 | #

You know, I might have more sympathy for the viewpoint that “They Live” was killed after the second week due to poor quality alone if it weren’t for the fact that it took in triple its production budget within the first 2 weeks and then was yanked from the market—TOTALLY. 

Note, my statement that the movie was suppressed doesn’t require the movie to be profitable, let alone good, whereas your counter requires you to explain the phenomenon entirely in on your terms.

You guys who want to play erudite critic—get some rationality.

Jews do it much better than you anyway.


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Posted by Robert ap Richard on Fri, 26 Jan 2007 02:31 | #

Sorry, the movie was just poor; reminded me of Walker Texas Ranger.  I like the messages in both and I think both writers are great guys personally but these are just not well made.  Poorly acted,  directed, and edited.  You are letting your—completely understandable—hatred of Jews get in the way of your aesthetic judgement.  Perhaps it was yanked because of the symbolism but I’d bet that it was because it just wasn’t very good.

Now idiocracy, that’s different.  That was pretty good.  Not great but better than most of the schlock put out these days.  If They Live was at least that good then you’d have a better case.

I’m giving They Live one one thumb down.


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Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:34 | #

Richard, you are rapidly losing credibility.  I never said the movie was great or even good.  I said there was a scene that was great.  Moreover your repeated harping on aesthetics as the reason movies that are profitable are pulled from theaters betrays a very serious lack of perspective about the movie industry that goes beyond an supposed “hatred of Jews”.


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Posted by Rnl on Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:48 | #

Even I have a hard time believing they’re really getting ready for another Mideast war, given the extraordinary failure of their adventure in Iraq. The evidence, however, strongly suggests that they are.

Homage to Herzliya
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=10399

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The “clean break” strategy embraced by the Israelis, predicated on the invasion and occupation of Iraq by the Americans, has so far played out pretty much as outlined in a notorious game plan drawn up by top U.S. policymakers, including neocon point-man and former Defense Policy Board official Richard Perle, former Deputy Secretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith, and David Wurmser, currently Dick Cheney’s top adviser on Middle Eastern affairs.

The agenda put forth in this widely cited 1996 document, intended as advice to then-incoming Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was meant to confront the central conundrum at the heart of the Zionist predicament: how to overcome its essential dependence on the West. As a settler colony, implanted by force of arms and sustained by aid from abroad, Israel has from the start been dependent on outside forces to ensure its survival. What was needed, argued the Clean Breakers, was a new offensive that would repudiate the concept of “land for peace” and set Israel free from Western-imposed constraints. Invoking the “right of hot pursuit,” Israel would launch periodic invasions of Palestinian and Lebanese territory – and set the stage for strikes against Syria and Iran.

The road to Damascus and Tehran would run through Baghdad, however, as the authors of “A Clean Break” put it:

“Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq – an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right – as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions.”

Syria and Lebanon were seen by the Clean Breakers as the front line in their battle to expand the frontiers of Israeli power. Following a successful campaign to “redefine Iraq,” it would be possible to envision a “profound” shift in the regional “strategic balance of power.” Jordan would be drawn into the new order, and the Israelis would succeed in “diverting Syria’s attention by using Lebanese opposition elements to destabilize Syrian control of Lebanon.”

A decade after the Clean Break scenario was conceived, its policy prescriptions read like prophecies.

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=10155


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Posted by Rnl on Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:36 | #

Lest we forget, Jimmy Carter is a notorious Holocaust minimizer, or perhaps a Holocaust neglecter. There is as yet no exact term to describe his offense, but he is a forgetter of the need to mention the Jewish Holocaust whenever one discusses Israel. That’s not exact either, since he did make “two fleeting references to the Holocaust” in his book. So he is a forgetter of (or maybe even a disbeliever in) the obligation to mention the Holocaust regularly when discussing Israel, which needless to say is very bad, as Deborah Lipstadt explains:

His book, which dwells on the Palestinian refugee experience, makes two fleeting references to the Holocaust. The book contains a detailed chronology of major developments necessary for the reader to understand the current situation in the Middle East. Remarkably, there is nothing listed between 1939 and 1947. Nitpickers might say that the Holocaust did not happen in the region. However, this event sealed in the minds of almost all the world’s people then the need for the Jewish people to have a Jewish state in their ancestral homeland ... y almost ignoring the Holocaust, Carter gives inadvertent comfort to those who deny its importance or even its historical reality, in part because it helps them deny Israel’s right to exist. This from the president who signed the legislation creating the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Deborah Lipstadt on “Jimmy Carter’s Jewish Problem”
http://fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/Lipstadt/on_Jimmy_Carter.html

“Almost Holocaust ignorer” would be the correct though unwieldy label, if we follow Lipstadt’s example, and this almost Holocaust ignoring is a close cousin to Holocaust denying: “Carter gives inadvertent comfort to those who deny its importance* or even its historical reality.”

*importance = the political meanings we assign to Jewish wartime suffering.

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The US Jewish Establishment’s onslaught on former President Jimmy Carter is based on him daring to tell the truth which is known to all: through its army, the government of Israel practises a brutal form of Apartheid in the territory it occupies. Its army has turned every Palestinian village and town into a fenced-in, or blocked-in, detention camp. All this is done in order to keep an eye on the population’s movements and to make its life difficult. Israel even imposes a total curfew whenever the settlers, who have illegally usurped the Palestinians’ land, celebrate their holidays or conduct their parades.

If that were not enough, the generals commanding the region frequently issue further orders, regulations, instructions and rules (let us not forget: they are the lords of the land). By now they have requisitioned further lands for the purpose of constructing “Jewish only” roads. Wonderful roads, wide roads, well-paved roads, brightly lit at night - all that on stolen land. When a Palestinian drives on such a road, his vehicle is confiscated and he is sent on his way.

[...]

Shulamit Aloni: There IS Apartheid in Israel
http://files.tikkun.org/current/article.php?story=20070105080344465

Attentive readers will note the absence of any reference to the Jewish Holocaust in Shulamit Aloni’s essay, so the problem of Holocaust ignoring exists even in Israel and even in the mind of a former Israeli cabinet minister.


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 02 Feb 2007 08:21 | #

RnL,

    The best of Holocaust mythology is probably earmarked for export only, (in the same manner as Scotch Whisky) and Sabra Israelis may be as likely to believe the arrant nonsense as Scots, like myself, are to believe that a Singapore airport duty-free bottle of Johnnie Walker Gold Label is actually worth $850.


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Posted by Weston on Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:39 | #

I never said the movie was great or even good.

  I’ll go further than Bowery, then.  “They Live” is good.  It’s a definite “B” movie with its share of flaws, but there are enough quality scenes to make viewing worthwhile.  Roddy Piper is charismatic in the lead role. He’s got a couple of very funny and very quotable lines of dialogue. 

  It also reads quite well as an allegory about Jewish power.  In “They Live”, the elites are primarily aliens that pass as humans.  Their only concern is for the well-being of their fellow aliens.  The human members of the elite are sellouts who have agreed to aid the aliens in exchange for money and power. 

  It may just be a coincidence, but the actress who played the “ugly woman” that James discusses in his post was almost certainly Jewish. 


  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0498361/


  Out of 11 roles listed, she plays a “Mrs. Goldberg”, a “Mrs. Pearlman”, and a “Mrs. Berman”.  She also plays a Jewish grandmother in “Always Say Goodbye”.  In “They Live”, she has a stereotypically Jewish nasally voice.


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Posted by ben tillman on Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:17 | #

I’ll go further than Bowery, then.  “They Live” is good.

It’s at least good enough.  My wife had no complaintgs when we watched it.

Lest we forget, Jimmy Carter is a notorious Holocaust minimizer, or perhaps a Holocaust neglecter. There is as yet no exact term to describe his offense, but he is a forgetter of the need to mention the Jewish Holocaust whenever one discusses Israel.

Good stuff there, RnL.


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Posted by Englander on Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:56 | #

It may just be a coincidence, but the actress who played the “ugly woman” that James discusses in his post was almost certainly Jewish.

Her credit for The King Of Comedy suggests so. (Woman in Telephone Booth). That must be the “you should only get cancer!” woman in the film.  Very Jewish.


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Posted by snax on Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:11 | #

Anyone who can’t see what The Jews would see when watching film is an innocent at best - I’m amazed it got made. I’m not even entirely convinced by John Carpenter’s claim that he “made the aliens Republicans” (promoting a Carpenter season running right now on British cable - those who haven’t seen TL should)...

But what I wanted to ask Californians reading this is about the homeless camp on wasteground featured heavily in the film. I am 49% certain I saw the same area with the little white (church) building in the background in some news coverage about contemprary Californians living in cars and tents in the wake of the sub-prime crash - was TL even more prescient than it appears?


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Posted by Lurker on Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:16 | #

There is a discussion thread on IMDB for TL:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096256/board

The JQ is certainly raised there, plenty of deniers in evidence, its all about Republicans etc

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Posted by Weston on Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:56 | #

Here is the scene in question on YouTube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kBY6pF42I-c



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