Litvinenko The Litvinenko poisoning has, and with what terrible, slow inevitability, become the Litvinenko murder, and is well on its way to becoming the Litvinenko Affair. How much the public will be told from herein is, to say the least, moot. Both the British and Russian secret services have become involved, we are told. Both involvements, though, may be more diversionary than truly investigative. Mr Litvinenko himself was in no doubt as to who his killers were, and then there is this:-
So what, in the shark-infested waters of international diplomacy, does the Litvinenko murder portend? Probably not that much, after all the cloak and dagger stuff has receded from the headlines. It isn’t in Britain’s national interest to humiliate Putin and find a radioactive FSB hand in the killing. An effective police investigation could prove disastrous. One can already hear the seasoned Foreign Office Russophiles proclaiming, “What, just so Blair at the Met can claim to keep the streets of London free from the FSB!” No one will reply that Russian state gangsterism impacts on our global interests - consider the dioxin-scarred features of the Ukrainian leader, Victor Yushchenko - and now there is some leverage against it. The plain truth is that we need considerably greater cooperation with Mr Putin, gangster or no. Our main interest is energy. Until recently Britain imported only modest volumes of gas from Russia. That will almost certainly change if security of supply can be established. If. The Ukrainian experience in January 2006, when the pipeline from the east was shut down for purely political reasons, is holding us back now. Only a reliable, cooperative Russia can encourage our trust, but Russia itself must be encouraged to that end. Then there is the Iranian nuclear problem, and the question of a regnant Iran regardless of that. Being America’s second best little buddy doesn’t auger very well for influencing Nejad. Russia has influence in Tehran. It is also a vital ally in resisting terrorism, for which sound working relations with the FSB are a prerequisite. So all in all we shouldn’t expect too much clarity from the Litvinenko investigation. It will, I believe, leave a bitter taste in many mouths. But diplomacy was ever thus. Comments:2
Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:45 | # Calvin, Did the arch-wily Beresofsky also have Anna Politkovskaya, the anti-Chechnan war journalist, shot to incriminate Putin? 3
Posted by Amalek on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:54 | # Remember that America’s Jewish neocons were embarrassingly keen to support the Chechen Muslim terrorists. In a fight beween them and a patriotic Russian nationalist leader, Jews with race memories of Tsarist and cossack pogroms will always back fellow semitic rebels. Similarly in the Balkans: support the Muslim brigands against the Christian Serbs, traditional allies of Mother Russia in that region. These manoeuvres have the additional advantage of making neocons look broad-minded and secular: ‘See, we help poor persecuted Muslims… when they’re not targetting Israel!’ Berezovsky is the leading kleptocrat at large, a neighbour of Roman Abramovich in Chelsea. Whatever its intrinsic merits Politkovskaya’s reportage assisted BB’s propaganda campaign against the austere and purposeful Putin: the most popular Russian leader since Stalin, partly because he fought the oligarchs who looted Russia’s publicly owned assets under the corrupt alcoholic, Boris Yeltsin. Putin has increasingly identified with Orthodox Christianity: another red rag to the secular Jacobins of the USA. Litvinenko was a flaky ex-KGB man who fell out with Putin and spun any number of tall tales, like the clownish Oleg Gordievsky, to keep himself in the western media limelight. He claimed that the Russians staged the terrorist outrages in Moscow, attributed to the Chechens, as a casus belli. He said that the Kremlin trained al-Qaeda’s Number Two man to commit 9/11. None of this excludes the possibility that Litvinenko was indeed silenced on Putin’s orders, or by eager acolytes without his knowledge. We may never know the truth. But why is London a Tom Tiddler’s Ground for these shenanigans, as it is for Middle East squabbles? Because a nation whose people long since gave up killing each other for political reasons still allows foreigners to conduct their squalid feuds on its shores. For a Briton, that is the real scandal: that our police should be wasting their time on such a tawdry affair when our poor and elderly kith and kin go in terror of crime. 4
Posted by Election Summary on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 11:25 | # Jewish neocons supported Chechnyan independence as a means of containing Russia and cutting it off from the Caucasuses Republics and Middle East. In the case of Serbia, the nation under Milosevic was racial-nationalist and an independent regional power, a no-no in a global U.S. imperium. In the Balkans, the neocons apparently followed a systematic program of destroying Serbian power, including: —stablizing the Bosnian Muslims in the early-90s civil war, which they were losing 5
Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:27 | # Why, exactly, is it that we’re supposed to care about the Litvinenko affair, other than the usual “Good/ bad for the Jews.”? Could someone tell me that please?
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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:38 | # For what it reveals of governmental motive and method, of course. 7
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:48 | #
Both the above are right. ( * - “General Wesley Clark on why the aggressive war against Serbia was undertaken by NATO: ‘There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That’s a 19th-century idea, and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states.’ That is quite simply the most disgusting thing I have ever heard in my life. I feel rather ill.”—Steve Edwards) 8
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:57 | #
I suppose that means Israel is next on NATO’s list of places to be bombed back to the stone age? Or don’t the Jewish neocons who more than anybody else spout what Gen. Clark says there see the contraction? Or are they counting on the limitless stupidity of the goys not to be “called” on their criminality and hypocrisy? 9
Posted by Retew on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 20:42 | # James Bowery said Quote; Why, exactly, is it that we’re supposed to care about the Litvinenko affair, other than the usual “Good/ bad for the Jews.”? Could someone tell me that please? ==================================== Because it happened in my country, for a start. One murder on British soil is one too many, and the police should be permitted to do their job thoroughly and the results (if any) acted upon fairly. There’s a precedent for this; we kicked the Bulgarian embassy out of the country when Georgi Markov was murdered in 1978. Older readers of MR with an interest in British politics will know that a British Leader of the Opposition (for non-Brits, a Prime Minister in waiting) died in mysterious circumstances in the early 1960s, and there was suspicion that the KGB were involved in the death. So, I’m naturally suspicious of this one. If we say we’re going to turn a blind eye to this poisoning, then any country who we want something from will know they can conduct their dirty business on our soil with impunity. Do we really want that to happen? It’s of course possible that Putin didn’t know anything about this, in which case he’s got nothing to worry about from a full investigation. But polonium isn’t the sort of material anyone can just get their hands on; it’s no mean feat to produce even a milligram of it, and that points in my view to some sort of government or high level involvement. Frankly, screw diplomacy. Whoever did this should be brought to trial and if Putin is embarrassed, then he’s embarrassed. 10
Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:22 | # Retew: If “one murder” is so important then why do you suppose this murder gets 100 times the attention of the murders of Brits on their home turf by immigrants? 11
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 22:07 | #
Anti-gun-rights groups sue gun manufacturers for murders committed with guns. You’d think groups on our side would start suing groups that push open borders for murders committed by racial incompatibles irresponsibly let into the country. Obviously such suits wouldn’t get anywhere at first. But with persistence, who knows? The other side didn’t use to get anywhere either. But they persisted and now they run things. 12
Posted by Al Ross on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:28 | # The ‘Russian’ oligarchs, like the ‘Russian’ Mafia, are about as Russian as cricket. 13
Posted by Amalek on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:03 | # Older readers of MR with an interest in British politics will know that a British Leader of the Opposition (for non-Brits, a Prime Minister in waiting) died in mysterious circumstances in the early 1960s, and there was suspicion that the KGB were involved in the death. So, I’m naturally suspicious of this one. A very good comparison, no doubt unintentionally: the sole source of the claim that Hugh Gaitskell’s death was caused by the KGB was the Litvinenko of the Sixties, Anatoly Golitsyn, who also assured a breathless western media that Harold Wilson was a KGB sleeper, the Manchurian Prime Minister. These claims came a few years after his skedaddle, when the hacks were growing bored by him. He later asserted that the end of communism and dismantling of the Iron Curtain would be a cunning plan to make the West lower its defences before the USSR steamrollered us. ETA not stated. The prescient Mr Golitsyn, unlike Litvinenko, is still with us. Aged 80. Assume that 99.44pc of everything defectors tell you is self-interested horse manure and you won’t go far wrong. Their trade is largely staffed by overgrown schoolboys. ‘Intelligence’ is the biggest zero-sum game and waste of public money the middle classes of all nations have yet invented to spare them from doing an honest day’s work. Forget ideology or allegiance; all spooks are in the same racket, and they are much more like each other than the rest of us. 14
Posted by Retew on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:25 | # Svyatoslav_Igorevich said; Quote Okaaay, let’s try that again: Raimondo’s piece on the Litster: =================================== Just one problem with that Svy; unusually large qualities of polonium 210 were found in Litvinenko’s body, and it’s not a substance that’s easily come by, to put it mildly; even a milligram of it takes some manufacturing. So whoever administered the poison to Mr. Litvinenko had access either to a nuclear lab or to someone else with such access; it has a halflife of just 138 days, so it’s not likely to have been stored for long. There may have been doubt about his having been poisoned when Raimondo wrote his article, but there can’t be much now. JB, the media loves stories about media people. There was a brouhaha when a popular British newsreader on BBC TV was murdered in 1999, and Litvinenko was investigating the death of As for Hugh Gaitskell, who died in 1963 in mysterious circumstances, the cause of death was said to be lupus but the *person in whose book I read the story suggests that the diagnosis wasn’t a firm one. He appeared to have reached the conclusion that the death was suspicious independently of any intelligence service. * Lord Woodrow Wyatt, in Confessions of an Optimist. 15
Posted by Amalek on Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:12 | # Follow-up by Justin Raimondo on why the theory that Putin had Litvinenko iced needs not a pinch but a whole cellar of salt: 16
Posted by Election Summary on Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:15 | # A pure speculation, but was the late Dr. Pierce ever examined for radialogical poisoning to explain the sudden onset and demise from terminal cancer? Michael Chertoff in that period sheared off the White Nationalist leadership cream (Duke - EURO, Matt Hale - WCC, Chester Doles -NA) on specious legal charges, damaging or destroying its three top organizations. As the legally irreproachable chief of the NA, the most effective group, Pierce’s elimination would seem to require assasination. It’s not a mystery why effective WN leadership does not presently exist. 17
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:53 | # Look’s like calvin’s horse is pulling ahead Not quite yet, Svi. Yegor Gaidar, the Jewish Russian who piloted Yeltsin’s privatisation progamme, has been poisoned while in Ireland and is close to death. Meanwhile, traces of polonium 210 have been discovered in two BA aircraft. I am impressed at the flow of information on this business. The Foreign Office must be on the brink of launching total war against the Home Office. I wonder if Reid sees openness as a winner with Labour MPs, and an aid to his leadership bid. 18
Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:31 | # Put the two things together, Svi. Why low-lifes? Why no attempt at secrecy? Maybe its the delivery of a message: “Come home, Boris, or you and yours will never be safe.” 19
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:42 | # They took Khordakovsky’s fortune. Abramovic has “done a deal” for his freedom. It’s about stolen assets, not whether Berezovsky lives or dies. They don’t give a damn for his skin. And sending a fish wrapped up in newspaper to him sends the same message to all the “oligarchs”. ... maybe. 20
Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:50 | # Another one. Pressure’s a-building. If this and Gaidar are polonium 210 poisonings - or just poisonings - it surely kills off speculation about Berezovsky’s culpability. I see also that FSB “rogue” elements - the ideal foil for deniability - are being publicly touted now. 21
Posted by Steven Palese on Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:23 | # Litvinenko: Case closed On a day in which the Alexander Litvinenko scandal hit Ireland with the convenient - but likely unrelated - “poisoning” of former Russian Prime Minister, Yegor Gaider on these shores, authoritative sources close, and exclusive, to this blog have learned of the definitive solution to the Litvinenko “mystery”. It seems that days before the poisoning of the former KGB agent hit the headlines, Russia and the government of the United Kingdom (I stress the government, not any particular person within that structure) were preparing to sign an extradition treaty, guaranteeing mutual co-operation in transferring criminal elements from one country to the other, as the need arises. Of course, top of that extradition list would be one Mr. Boris Berezovsky (left), who is wanted by the Russian authorities for a variety of crimes. Continued at The Irish Bulletin 22
Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:06 | # Rusty, Here’s the take of renegade Russian journalist, Edward Limonov in eXile, a “controversial newspaper”. He limits responsibility to the FSB - not rogue elements in it. Even that limit, however, depends for its credibility on the Litvinenko affair being exactly that: an attack on one man. Anyway, Limonov knows as much as anyone who is talking, and a darned sight more than we will probably ever know.
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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:31 | # Gaidar is as sprightly as a new-born lamb, it seems. Perhaps he’s a hypochondriac. Scaramella and his health prospects, and everything else about him, remains shrouded in mystery. Brother Occam, then, is our wisest guide. Returning to my original point, this shows how the Foreign Office reacted to the Borat film, under the lash of criticism from the government of a very minor country of no real importance to Britain. Imagine, then, the schizoid governmental struggle for news control - and control of the investigation - that must be going on in Whitehall now. Whatever message we the public are told at this end of this WILL accord with the political interests of the British state. The political interests of the state machinery trump everything, and that is the vastly important meaning of this story. With regard to majority interests, or rather the state’s active disinterest in majority interests, it is just as telling. Why are we facing dispossession, deracination, marginalisation in our own homeland? Because it accords with the interests of those who have power over it. 24
Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:46 | # A little lifting of the veil on the FO’s reaction. Thursday’s cabinet meeting is reported by the Sunday Times thus:-
At Samizdata, meanwhile, a mysterious commenter named Stephan has gently chided Miss Perry, whose blood was apparently made to boil - boil I tell you - by this passage. To Perry’s post “Exactly the sort of person who should not have political power” this mysterious Stephan repled:-
I am sure Stephan will be banned soon. 25
Posted by Bo Sears on Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:19 | # It isn’t hard to discern the identity of the regime behind this rash of radioactive poisonings. First, ask Occam which regime benefits from this rash of killings. It isn’t Russia, unfairly accused without evidence. Second, ask Occam which regime has the most guarded, most protected access to its own radioactive materials. Third, ask Occam which regime most definitely wishes to smear and weaken Putin for his actions against the so-called oligarchs. Fourth, ask Occam which regime would carry out such a rash of murders to coerce Putin to support sanctions against Iran. Let’s see, Russia gains nothing but a undeserved reputation on the world stage. A kind of Lavon affair? Let’s not be fooled again. 26
Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:51 | # Quite an interesting left-of-centre take on Russia’s real geopolitical enemy by Neil Clark at the Guardian:-
I think Clark almost certainly goes too far in forgiving Putin his sins. But then we do not have enough untainted sources of information of said sins, and it is possible that a Putin “the Saviour of Russia” lurks somewhere behind the Neocon smokescreen. We do know what the PNAC is for, of course, and we know what American hegemony really means for the rest of the world. That alone is sufficient reason to give Putin the benefit of the doubt, as Clark suggests. 27
Posted by Matra on Tue, 05 Dec 2006 00:15 | # Did someone mention Chechnya? From The Times:
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Posted by Bo Sears on Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:29 | # A TimesOnLine article from 12/4/06 that sheds some more light on the anti-Putin campaign and seeks a broader view: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1070-2485210,00.html 29
Posted by Steven Palese on Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:25 | # “Only a very young, innocent and sincere person may believe that media owners and editors, the Masters of Discourse care about minor Russian political figures like Politkovskaya and Litvinenko. They put Putin on the hot seat so he’ll surrender Iran to the US bombers and Sakhalin-2 to the Western oil companies, sell gas and other national assets at cheap price, forget about his independent political course. They show him and us the impressive might of the mass media machine, this unique device built to zombify millions. They can establish the world agenda and present Putin as a killer, Clinton as a sex offender, Chavez as an antisemite, Ahmadinejad as a new Hitler, Palestinians as the offenders and Israelis as victims. Not even the popes had such power in their best days: whatever they say, goes.” 30
Posted by view from england on Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:23 | # Amalek said, “the sole source of the claim that Hugh Gaitskell’s death was caused by the KGB was the Litvinenko of the Sixties, Anatoly Golitsyn…” This is simply untrue and readers should be very suspicious of the motives of anyone who makes such a claim. Gaitskell’s death was being investigated by both the SIS and CIA before Golitsyn was questioned about it. Lets keep to known facts: A month before the onslaught of his final illness, he had been admitted to hospital suffering from viral pneumonia, but he recovered and was declared fit to travel. Then, Gaitskell became ill again and died two weeks later from a rare condition, systemis lupus erythematosus. He had no previous history of this condtion. It is extremely unlikely for a male of his age to suddenly manifest this condition and then succumb to it so quickly. Though the pneumonia may have weakened him, it is again extremely unlikely that doctors would have pronounced him fit for international travel if they had any doubts as to his general state of health. In all suspicious deaths, investigating authorities look for three things: motive, means, and opportunity. It is a shame that back in the sixties forensic science was not what it has become today! Gaitskell’s ashes are interred in the churchyard of Hampstead Parish Church (Saint John’s-at-Hampstead), London. 31
Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:45 | # Five months after the deed we have the first official indication that the FSB was the culprit:-
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Posted by calvin on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:45 | #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Berezovsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Klebnikov
http://en.for-ua.com/news/2005/10/28/140702.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2470810,00.html
The Jewish oligarch Boris Beresofsky had Litvinenko murdered as part of a propagamnda coup against arch-rival Putin.
Livinenko stayed in a house owned by Beresovsky and his book was being financed by Beresovsky. The man the media describes as Litvinenko’s friend, Alex Goldfarb, is a close associate of Berezovsky. The man that a mortally ill and stricken Livinenko “chose” to dictate his long eloquent and specific farewell statement, accusing Putin of his murder was Goldfarb, who seemed to have almost exclusive access to Litvinenko; the photographs of Litvinenko released to the press are copyrighted to Bell Pottinger Communications, a media corporation patronized by Boris Berekovsky. Beresovsky is an unscrupulous villan who is know to have had his nemesis Paul Klebnikov murdered. Litvinenko was poisoned by Berezofsky and placed in the charge of his lieutenant Golfarb.