Love Africans.  You are going to get a lot more of them anyway.

Posted by Guessedworker on Friday, 24 November 2006 00:16.

The Libyan leader, Muammar Gaddafi, has told African and European government ministers that they must accept high levels of cross-border migration.

Mr Gaddafi told ministers gathered for a conference on migration from Africa to the EU that resisting migration “is like rowing against the stream”.

“The current populations of the world are originally migrants.”

... “Political borders, official papers and identities set for every group of people are new, artificial things not recognised by nature.

“Land is the property of everyone, and God commands all human beings to migrate on Earth to seek a living, which is their right,” he said.

From an amazing BBC News report on the EU-Africa Ministerial Conference on Migration and Development Issues, which wound up today in nice Muammar’s capital.  Do you think nice Muammar means that the land of his Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya belongs to me?

Probably not.

Muammar doesn’t see things that way.  Indeed, this Conference was devoted wholly to expressing the “African position” on migration and development.  And the issues that interest African leaders are:-

1) The unimpeded flow of successful migrants’ remittances,

2) A European focus from a human rights perspective,

3) European investment in Africa to counter the effects of the “brain drain”!

In a nutshell: take our people, send us your cash.

The Conference blurb announced that the pre-Conference experts’ meeting would:-

... bring together migration experts from African countries and the EU, the Permanent Representatives’ Council (PRC) of the AU, the RECs, the AU Commission, the European Commission, and a restricted number of institutions of the United Nations system, international organizations and NGOs specialized in migration and development issues.

No surprise, then, that these shindigs crop up pretty regularly ... like just last July.  And absolutely no surprise that the rights and interests of the native peoples (and tax-payers) of Europe go unvoiced by any of these soulless transnationals.

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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 01:25 | #

Africans ruin every place in which they live. More of the stupid criminality-prone Congoids is the last thing the EU or indeed any civilised area needs.

Countries like Japan, China and Israel which value their people’s EGI will never allow this huge influx of savages to infest their territory.

The poisonous residue of that Jew-invented spiritual syphilis, Chrisianity, is still influencing the elites, even as they frown on that ruinous religion’s outward display, and sympathy for the ‘unfortunate’ Africans trumps their duty of care and protection towards the EGI of their own race.


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Posted by Tristan Martins on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:04 | #

Gaddafi, true to form, is talking straight out of his sorry ass.  The Africanization of Europe isn’t inevitable—it happens only when countries *consciously decide* to open up their borders to the invaders, the way the US, Canada and unfortunately (because I love the country), Britain have decided to do. 

Throughout the European Continent, the tide of opinion has swung to become so decisively in favor of immigration restriction and against open borders, that even France has recently ratified an extremely stringent, tough immigration law that also ensures thousands of deportations of Gaddafi’s fellow North Africans every year, barred from returning.  Even those once myopically lefty French Socialist parties have now started to embrace immigration restriction to varying degrees—they tried to block the French immigration reform push, and they suffered a drubbing as a result.

Please pardon my long post here, but I wanted to share my own experience that I feel is quite relevant to our overall survival as a people.  I’m an ex-US expat, and I now split my time between Toulouse in France and Bielefeld, which is a gorgeous and thriving medium-sized city up in northwest Germany and truly one of the best-kept secrets of the Western world.  (It’s blessedly free of most of the irritating tourists that inundate Frankfurt, for example.) 

I moved here almost 3 years ago mainly for job-related reasons, but I can say with certainty that I am never, ever moving back to the States.  Forget all the Europhobic propaganda that the Jewish-controlled media in the US pushes on you about how bad Europe is—it’s MUCH better here if you’re of European stock.  I’ve been visiting friends and family in the US, and a good number of them have been forced to work on Thanksgiving, as I constantly did when I was here. 

Back in the States, despite my incredibly hard work to secure top educational credentials and training in finance, I was treated as nothing more than a disposable commodity.  The value of my contributions and my dedication to my job were never enough to give job security or even to pay a decent wage to live on—I was forced to work harder and harder just to keep my job, even as my pay went down further and further.  Just about nobody took time off during the holidays, even Thanksgiving and Christmas—if you dared to assert your basic rights as a human being to be with your family on such a cherished day, even to rest and catch up on sleep on a weekend, you’d find a pink slip in your mailbox the next Monday.  So it was 80+ hours a week, month after month even on holidays, year after year, and our “reward” was declining wages, ever-increasing abuse from our supervisors even as we did outstanding work, and our health going to pot.  This doesn’t even begin to consider what happens if you have a single stroke of misfortune, something like a car accident or a divorce, or even a brief illness.  You might as well grab a tin can and start begging, because in the midst of your generalized baseline misery, you have a bad break—you’re gonna be bankrupt and on the street as soon as the vultures descend on you.

I’ve seen other observant people post on this, and I’ll repeat it here:  The nation of India is the single most dangerous country in the world for the survival of the US middle class, and the US kleptocracy—which is essentially the government that’s in power in the States—is basically using cheap, mediocre-skilled Indian labor as a battering ram to destroy the foundations and living standards of the US middle and professional classes.  Indian financial specialists and engineers don’t have US-style educational debt, and they’re used to living like crap in India with living standards that would be shameful to most Americans—half a dozen or more men crammed into a single filthy apartment, terrible health care and hygiene, basically a run-down way of life in general.  (A buddy of mine, who worked in the trucking business, said he shuddered whenever he had to enter a truck driven by Indian drivers who basically pissed and crapped within their vehicle to stay on the road longer—the stench was so overwhelming, he had to wear a scented band below his nose to avoid passing out.)  So they accept slave wages from US companies, which is why American corporations are so eager to push that economic nuclear bomb against US workers, aka the H1-B visa, as quite a few others around here have been pointing out. 

Our misery as workers in the US has many different roots, but one of the most important is that H1B—that program is the direct cause of the insanely abusive and intolerable treatment, declining wages and living standards, disappearing job security and horrendous hours we’ve been pushed to in the USA.  With such ample cheap labor from India available, US workers have become replaceable commodities, and we’re treated as such.

I can’t even begin to describe how much better it is in Europe on this front.  I initially had some adjustment difficulty—my French and German needed some polishing, I had some difficulty ensuring all my work permits were in order, plus I was annoyed by the taxes.  But over the past 3 years, it’s become abundantly obvious how much better I’ve got it here, and how much more at home I feel among my own people who are making sure to keep it that way. 

I still work about 50 hours a week here, but of my own choice—I love my job here and for once, my superiors respect my contributions and fairly reward me for them, both in terms of my wages and public praise for my efforts.  I hardly had time to breathe when I was in the US, sweating blood while working for slave wages that went down more and more every year.  In Europe, I can tweak my schedule a bit to have more time with friends and family so long as I stay on top of my business overall, without fear of getting laid off or my wages being gutted by a slave-wage hire from Hyderabad.  I can use the weekends for rest, occasionally coming in for unfinished business but most of the time, having them entirely free.  I can take vacations without qualms.  In the US, I was an expendable pawn for the kleptocracy—in Europe, I was a valued citizen of the republic.

The federal taxes can be a bit irritating, but their effect is greatly exaggerated in the US—they’re not that much higher than the taxes in the USA, plus the United States has countless “hidden taxes” such as FICA and the federal/state/local tax trio, plus the very real taxes on our income and well-being such as affirmative action, and the horrid traffic and environmental pollution in US cities, such that the “real tax” burden in Europe is if anything a good deal lower here.  Plus, one has to keep in mind—the taxes that you do pay in Europe actually go to pay for services that come back to benefit you quite a bit overall, as opposed to the US, where our taxes basically go to help Israel build settlements in more Palestinian territories, to fight wars in Iraq and to provide corporate welfare for the cronies of whatever kleptocratic party is in power (Democrats and Republicans both). 

On top of all this, you actually get to live and work in a place predominantly with your ethnic kin.  I can’t emphasize this enough.  The economic benefits were what drew me to Toulouse and Bielefeld initially, but one of the big factors in ensuring that I stay, is that I’m surrounded by my own people here, my own Western culture and the very obvious reminders of great Western achievement everywhere I look, especially in Germany.  The architecture here always reminds you what our people are capable of, whereas in the USA, as a White person, I and other Whites were constantly reminded of how worthless and replaceable we were to the ruling kleptocrats.  The Continentals at least are also much more sober about mass immigration than the US and Canada, as well as, unfortunately, Britain these days. 

In the US, I rarely had time to socialize or date at all, especially with my own kin and definitely not to raise a family.  When I was in Bielefeld, however, I met a beautiful, wonderful strawberry-blonde woman originally from Riga in Latvia, and she’s now my fiance.  (Those German lessons paid off in quite a few different ways.)  Moreover, because of my much-improved job and financial security and, of course, the time I can actually spend with family here, Kristine and I have decided to have 3 kids and raise them here, as Germans.  Financially, socially, culturally, in every way it’s much better here.

I’ll admit that France in previous years had been among the more addle-headed left-leaning countries as far as its immigration policy, but it’s amazing how fast they’ve turned around.  The US media greatly exaggerates the numbers of North Africans there—you always hear the cry, “6 million North Africans, bad Muslims, bad Muslims” but an independent survey done this year, including even Toulouse, showed it to be a little more than half that.  Moreover, those numbers are dwindling, not rising—France has already deported close to 36,000 North Africans and Arabs this year with the numbers going steadily up.  Those riots in the Paris suburbs are if anything a big gift—they provide the authorities with a low-cost means of identifying the hoodlums who’d be better off trashing a cafe in Algiers or Rabat, with a quick ticket back home. 

As for Germany, it’s possibly the most Western country that I’ve been in thus far (among the larger nations—smaller Euro countries like Norway, Austria and Denmark tend to be even more so).  People in Bielefeld basically laugh at Americans—nobody around here has any compunctions about identifying as decidedly European physically, culturally, religiously and intellectually, have no self-hate about it.  The Germans are very friendly to non-Europeans and quite tolerant (more, admittedly, than I myself have become, considering what happened to my White crime-victim neighbors back in the States)—but they don’t let the non-Europeans move here in much numbers.  Those people who do settle here from outside Germany, largely have Germanic ancestry themselves. 

I can’t say the same about every European country, especially Britain.  I love the British country, but it’s just not Western anymore.  I’ve visited there many times, and honestly, the last time I was there, it seemed like the biggest ambition for socially-conscious British women everywhere was to bear the child of a Black man (if they hadn’t already decided to go childless). 

Throughout the country these days, in many cities you’d be hard-pressed to find a single pair of blue eyes across from you on the bus or subway, anymore—basically the culture of London has become Caribbean Black and South Asian.  The degree of White self-hate in Britain is almost impossible to grasp—that’s obviously my own subjective observation, but all my fellow American expat friends who’ve visited there, say the same thing.  It seems to me, that Britain has adopted the anti-White cultural attitudes spewed out by the US media with a vengeance, and has basically decided to commit mass suicide.  It’s like the Jonestown senselessness, projected to the scale of an entire island nation, with the cult leader being the US media with its constant propaganda against White people and our physical traits and culture, pro-miscegenation and against the survival of anything resembling an intact British populace.  For whatever reason, the Continent has a much better cultural immune system against this senselessness—even in France and particularly so in Bielefeld and elsewhere in Germany.

In other words, don’t trust all the Europhobic crap you hear in the Jewish-controlled US media, which hates Europe with a passion—it’s full of lies and misstatements.  The media in the US obviously despises Europe and wants to discourage White Americans from even considering the possibility of moving there, since the smaller size of the European nations, greater cultural cohesion and republican and populist traditions—that militate against US-style kleptocracy—make it much easier to reinforce a strong, common Western identity in those countries, especially on the Continent.  I’m only speaking from my own subjective experience of course and not everything’s been easy, but overall it’s much, much better here, and almost all of my expat friends from the US strongly agree.


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Posted by Election Summary on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:48 | #

Tristan,

True, pleasant pockets of the world remain. But how shall you and other refugees resist the NWO? The NWO won’t stop until stopped; fleeing or advocating the same for temporary respite alone is un-Aryan.

Do you contribute financially to the BNP or National Front? If you cannot contribute with your body, consider doing so with your salary and advocating the same for others.

My firm belief is this: *Never* advocate moving away by its lonesome. *Always* make it clear that they are to contribute financially if they cannot do so bodily after a tactical retreat.


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Posted by Matra on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 05:37 | #

Yeah, yeah - the Anglo countries are finished and Belgium, France, Austria are all great and we should all learn foreign languages, bla bla bla. Tristan/Lord Haw/Beowulf/ and the other half dozen or so handles you’ve used - how many times a week do you give us the same 7 or 8 paragraph post? 

The poisonous residue of that Jew-invented spiritual syphilis, Chrisianity, is still influencing the elites,

In previous centuries when the elites of the West were even more influenced by Christianity they were anything but self-haters.


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Posted by Election Summary on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 05:46 | #

Agreed, Tristan/Lord Haw/Beowulf should cease inventing a new, false SOB story every day that distorts our understanding of reality. Even if the essence contains truth we don’t need friendly-fire disinformation and propaganda here; that stuff’s for the masses. 

But it is true that Anglo nations are the most NWO-infested because of their modern roots in the financial shetls of London and New York.


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 05:48 | #

The elected elites today are very different in attitude from those of historical times and even though the baneful Christian nonsense about the poor and the meek being somehow blessed was widely propagated, it is only fairly recently that biblical tenets began to be interpreted as promoting liberation-theology style equality-in-degradation.


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Posted by Matra on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 06:42 | #

it is only fairly recently that biblical tenets began to be interpreted as promoting liberation-theology style equality-in-degradation.

For close to 2000 years in some places and around 1000 in others those biblical tenets did not lead to European softness and self-hatred. Yet no matter when a European nation took up Christianity the onset of liberalism within virtually all each nation’s versions of Christianity began around the same time in 20th century. (I suppose Orthodoxy could be an exception).


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 07:06 | #

The transmogrification of Jew-invented Christianity into Jew-invented Marxism which led to today’s ruinous political dilution, liberalism, meant dropping the supernatural element and leaving the religious precepts about proletarian moral supremacy and ‘equality’ intact. In other words Christianity minus the spooks.


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Posted by Themistocles on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:56 | #

Interesting that this theme is being recognized independently in so many places, the US has now become a feudal society as a few of you guys perceptively noticed a while ago.  I realize now I’m not alone.  I thought it bizarre that after supposedly having done everything I was supposed to be to be a good citizen in a gray flannel suit—work hard in school, get my degrees, obey the law, marry a good woman and put a down payment on a house—that I basically find myself being treated like dirt despite my hard work, indeed like a serf.

It’s interesting that one of the major elements of the populist labor reforms throughout the Western world has been the concept of fair working hours, and proportional wages for work accomplished, and how this is being flouted so overtly in 21st-century America.  It’s like all the promises of the Social Contract we implicitly grew up with, have been tossed aside.

For us, the despised members of the White professional, working and middle classes, our “role” as serfs in the modern US economy is indeed to work ourselves to death, to build richer palaces for the dukes in the manors and the multiplying “baronages” for the Jewish and other non-White overlords who look with scorn upon the peons they think are beneath them.  Democrats or Republicans, makes no differences—the power elites are entrenched and control both parties.

Their contempt is made even more obvious by the transparent arrogance of the way they defend their indefensible policies—if you’ve ever heard some loudly Globalist (and quite often Jewish) academic defend outsourcing and the H1B that you all are talking about above, you’ll know exactly what I mean.  It’s blatantly obvious how destructive and awful this so-called “global free trade” (which isn’t free or fair in any sense of the words) is to our economy and our own citizens, yet our bought-and-sold economists in US universities offer up all kinds of bogus justifications for it.  Not only are the serfs worked to death, robbed of the right even to have our own families, we’re insulted further with stupid blandishments about how our suffering is essential to bring about the New World Order.  Amazing how the radical Marxists and the radical “capitalists” have been able to come to an agreement on the worthlessness and undesirability of the White backbone of US society.

Except that the modern feudalism issuing from Ottawa, Washington and London and the media barons there, is far more pernicious and sinister than even the most repulsive feudal state of the European Middle Ages, since now, an additional and crucial component is outright race replacement of the White serf class.  In Europe at least, cruel as it was, the Lords and serfs were largely of the same race, and the lords found value in the labor of the serfs and encouraged them to reproduce.

Whereas, our modern Lords see us, the bread-and-butter Whites of the USA, as potentially dangerous troublemakers to their Globalistic world order. 

So for them, the maximum profit is derived by draining as much from us as they can, forcing us to sweat as much as we can for a few crumbs as someone else wrote—and then progressively killing us off, after maybe a couple generations.  You all have got the basics down: Toppling the pillars of our earning power, discouraging us from having children, working us longer for less earnings, allowing murder of Whites by Blacks and other non-Whites to go unrecognized and often unpunished while trumping up false accusations against our own (the Duke lacrosse trial), increasing crowding which reduces the childbearing incentive, encouraging mass 3rd World immigration, and—for those few Whites who manage to slip through and have kids—to inculcate our kids with a cultural atmosphere that encourages childbirth only through miscegenation with Blacks, whose kids are Black themselves.

One other factor that I don’t think has been mentioned:  polluting our environment with deadly chemicals that drastically reduce our fertility.  Researchers have measured sperm counts of White men in the US and Canada over the decades, and average counts for White men here in the past two decades have plummeted shockingly, up to 50% in much of the US—with the worst drops, in fact, being in industrial regions of the South and Midwest with the highest White populations.  I don’t know if there’s an obvious intended conspiracy, only that the Lords here see us White serfs as inconvenient, worthless and expendable, and the waste products of the plastics and chemicals that fill our groundwater—not to mention the air pollution that’s exacerbated by our population growth and deforestation worldwide—have been proven to have devastating effects on spermatogenesis in the testes.  The Lords themselves, of course, are wealthy enough to wall themselves off from these effects. 

If I ever hear another idiot pundit talk up the joys of outsourcing to India, globalization or “free” trade that promotes massive browning of the USA, environmental damage and decreasing wages even as we’re pushed to longer hours, I’m making sure they get mentioned and publicly humiliated in whatever forum we have.  These people are nothing less than the agents of a massive genocide against our people!


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:56 | #

Aside from the part about our overlords polluting the groundwater in order to lower sperm counts, Themistocles’ comment is first rate.  (I don’t see the groundwater thing as part of race-replacement although if our overlords knew of a way to deploy that particular weapon selectively, who knows?  I wouldn’t put it past them.  One thing’s blindingly obvious:  they want to be rid of white people:  you can’t do the things they’re doing without that being your goal.  It’s impossible.)

Good job, Themistocles!  Excellent summary of what’s going on!


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Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:20 | #

Al,

I think it is indisputably true that, exhausted by two world wars and a revolutionary political tide, post-WW2 Christianity was ripe to be overtaken by secular morality.  It gave itself up to the sanctification of Man freed from “oppression” by liberal-left politics.  A tragedy.

The obvious flaw in this development was that there was nothing sacred in it, no teleology, nothing higher than human rights.  But such it was.

Christianity has gone.  It belongs to the past.  We can let it go.  It was, in any case, never of us.  The sacred grove, the king on the tree, the goddess in white, perhaps, were ours until Joseph of Arimathea’s staff was struck on some salt-laden coastal hillside.

Now we must, I think, make do with advancing science, and such philosophy as we can garner as individuals.  The times are lost to whatever knowledge informs the origins of religions, and may always be so.


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Posted by Whey Protein on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:01 | #

“A buddy of mine, who worked in the trucking business, said he shuddered whenever he had to enter a truck driven by Indian drivers who basically pissed and crapped within their vehicle to stay on the road longer…”

I wonder what GC’s lab smells like.


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Posted by dchamil on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:20 | #

Diversity: Diversity requires having some white countries and some brown countries. The different colors make the world diverse, right? Diversity does not entail having us all an intermediate cafe-au-lait color. I like diversity.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:36 | #

Diversity: Diversity requires having some white countries and some brown countries.  The different colors make the world diverse, right?  Diversity does not entail having us all an intermediate cafe-au-lait color.”  (—dchamil)

Right.  So, uhhhhh ... [lightbulbs suddenly flashing on inside people’s heads] ... diversity must not be what they’re after!  It’s just a nice-sounding word thrown out there as boob bait for the half-educated bourgeoisie and their clueless bimbos.  (Not for the bubbas — they’re not buying “diversity.”)

Bingo!

Chalk one up for our side ... (hey it’s a start, no? ...  I’ll take whatever I can get!  I’m not particular ...)


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:49 | #

The bubbas don’t buy “diversity,” not at all.  Forget that completey, it’s useless on them.  The New World Order knows this perfectly well, so throws out different boob bait for them, the anti-towelhead pro-Iraq-war and by implication pro-Bush boob bait.  The bubbas eat that kind of “get-the-camel-jockeys-back-who-attacked-us” boob bait up like it was southern barbecue.  Bubbas love that stuff!


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:11 | #

What Themistocles outlines is not really new. Cannadine’s ‘Ornamentalism’ details the perceptions of the evil empire, over a century ago.

Cannadine observes, ‘depending on context and circumstances, both white and dark-skinned peoples of the empire were seen as superior; or alternatively as inferior.’ British imperialists loathed Indians and Africans no more nor less than they loathed the great majority of Englishmen and were far more willing to work with maharajahs, kings, and chiefs of whatever colour than with white settlers, whom they generally considered as uneducated trash. Just as Jamaican peasants and East End costermongers were viewed as equally inferior, so Indian princes and West African tribal chiefs were often understood as the social equivalent of English gentlemen. Indeed, British rulers were often amused that lower class white settlers were unable to comprehend that aristocratic breeding cut across differences of colour. Lady Gordon, wife of Arthur Hamilton Gordon, the governor of Fiji, thought the native, high-ranking Fijians ‘such an undoubted aristocracy’. ‘Their manners’, she wrote, ‘are so perfectly easy and well bred… Nurse can’t understand it at all, she looks down on them as an inferior race. I don’t like to tell her that these ladies are my equals, which she is not!’

Yet even then there was no mass immigration of non-whites into the white world.

It’s not clear that JC has left the building. Arguably, a tome that suggests the end of science is more supportable. After all, will we ever know what lies beyond the ‘big bang’. Darwin’s evolutionary theory stirred a great wind of agnostic Anglo-Protestant commercialism.

And yet, mass immigration of non-whites into the white world was not countenanced.

Even the maudlin liberal sentiments of Canada’s United Church, long removed from the verisimilitude of Edward the Expeller, the Reverend Claris Silcox, the ‘United Church’s most vigorous and effective foe of anti-Semitism,’ proclaimed in 1941 that that Canadians were justified in seeking to keep their country ‘dominantly and overwhelmingly European.’

However, post-war sentiment rapidly changed.  And even though the Judge in the 1945 Ontario case of MCDOUGALL AND WADDELL, in which the court upheld a property restriction against ‘any person or persons other than Gentiles (non-semitic) of European or British or Irish or Scottish racial origin’ taking title, the writing was on the wall.

He lamented, “‘the unchristian action of racial discrimination,’ and denounced the Holocaust ‘inflicted upon certain races and creeds by a satanic direction in this people.”

A satanic direction in this people.

And then mass immigration of non-white people began into the white world.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:18 | #

“What Themistocles outlines is not really new. Cannadine’s ‘Ornamentalism’ details the perceptions of the evil empire, over a century ago.”  (—Desmond)

Desmond makes an excellent point about the aristocracy’s inability to see racial reality and the importance of EGI.  Our reaction to that must be to strive to prevail against them in defense of ourselves and our nations.  If we don’t, they’ll have us race-replaced before we can say Jack Robinson.  Once our own self-defense is successfully sorted out we’ll likely need to go further and replace this lot of aristocrats with ones whose eyes line up with the holes.  I can name two dozen bloggers and blog regulars right now just off the top of my head who’d be better lords than the sad lot we’ve got influencing things now and who wouldn’t at all mind living in a castle or two, once the current occupants can be ... discharged, shall we say?  Yes ... discharged ....  You’d think examples such as Charles I and Louis XVI would concentrate certain minds ... 

You’d think wrong.

Before seeing Desmond’s post I was going to recall another way in which “what Themistocles outlines is not really new,” as he points out:  remember the Scottish highland land clearances of the late 1700s into the 1800s which resulted in a wave of Scottish crofters leaving and settling in the U.S.?  Here’s part of the post I had typed up:
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The overlords won’t tolerate obstacles to the flow of gold into their pockets whether it be crofters in 1700s Scotland or whites in The New World Order:  no pleadings, no excuses will be tolerated but both must be cleared off to put more gold into certain pockets:  see the history of the highland land clearances of the seventeen and eighteen hundreds.  Today, instead of crofters being cleared off the land to make way for sheep, whites are cleared off to make way for wogs, our overlords having concluded that in today’s “world economy” they can no longer afford to pay white workingmen’s wages when wogs will work for a tenth to half that, or white professionals’ salaries when wogs will work for half to two-thirds.  As rich people such as the Bushes, David Rockefeller, Prince Charles, and Queen Elizabeth see it, white people now get in the way and are becoming more trouble than they’re worth.  What happens when rich people decide you’re in the way and more trouble than you’re worth?  Right, you’ve got it:  it’s time for you to go.  Time for whites to exit the world stage.  Whites aren’t needed any more and besides, they’re getting to be a damned nuisance with their high wage levels and what not.  “Bye-bye!  Been nice knowin’ ya!  We’re quite happy with the wogs now.  And in case you can’t take a hint ... Just go away!  Get lost!

Yes as Themistocles points out there’s an alliance between the Marxists on the one hand and, on the other, the Radical capitalists and Wall Streeters, two groups normally at each other’s throats.  This is because both want race-replacement, the latter to be rid of the necessity of paying high wages and salaries, the former to be rid of history’s most effective barrier to worldwide communist dictatorship.  This unholy alliance won’t last much longer, though:  the communists won big in the Dutch elections the day before yesterday but guess what?  They happen to be (yes truth is stranger than fiction, folks ... wait for it ...) they happen to be anti-immigration and anti-EU.  [That choking noise you just heard was the Wall Streeters suddenly gagging on their lunch ...]  The difference of course is these south-Dutch reds are indigenous-type home-grown communists, not the Jewish type forever pushing race-replacement, nation-destruction, internationalism, artificially-enforced “radical equality of the sexes,” destruction of morals and patriotism, and so on.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:36 | #

“You really have to have been through a total lobotomy not to realize by now that something is wrong.  What words you choose to describe it seems irrelevant — only the act of war as it is presented matters now:  retaliate and defend against it is all that matters now.”

True and galvanizing words there by Andrew.  Well put!


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:47 | #

A much better example than mine, Fred. Of course it immediately puts me in the mood for the ‘Robert’ himself.

THE lovely lass o’ Inverness,   
  Nae joy nor pleasure can she see;   
For e’en and morn she cries, ‘Alas!’   
  And aye the saut tear blin’s her e’e:   
‘Drumossie moor, Drumossie day,        5
  A waefu’ day it was to me!   
For there I lost my father dear,   
  My father dear and brethren three.   

‘Their winding-sheet the bluidy clay,   
  Their graves are growing green to see;    10
And by them lies the dearest lad  
  That ever blest a woman’s e’e!   
Now wae to thee, thou cruel lord,   
  A bluidy man I trow thou be;   
For monie a heart thou hast made sair,    15
  That ne’er did wrang to thine or thee.’


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Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 23:55 | #

Here’s another foreign lunatic, and another victim for the National Front’s The Fallen.

Police say the driver stepped out of his vehicle in Harlington High Street at about 4.30am today - yards from the airport’s perimeter fence -possibly because of an altercation with the man.

The suspect - believed to be of Tunisian origin - then launched a ferocious assault on the victim, leaving him for dead in the street.

Two paramedics arrived and tried to treat the man but they too were assaulted.

Four members of the public went to help, and they were also attacked and injured, one of the seriously.

Police said they found no weapons. Blood was spattered on a nearby car.

Moments after the incident Heathrow worker Gary Webb drove past the scene of the attack and stopped to help - but was frightened away after being approached by what he described as a 6ft tall thick-set man of north African appearance.


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Posted by Al Ross on Fri, 24 Nov 2006 23:58 | #

Excellent, Desmond, and a refreshing change from Burns’s freemasonry-inspired anticipatory paean to incipient liberalism, ‘A Man’s A Man For A’ That’.

It is interesting that the British government, through the ultra-liberal BBC, takes the trouble to warn us that an influx from mainland Europe of our fellow Whites will increase the UK crime-rate, whilst at no time making mention of the greater danger inherent in African illegal immigration. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/uk_news/6104828.stm

Of course, it may be the case that the BBC’s mention of Romanians may be subliminal code for Gypsies, a group of congenital thieves to be avoided at all costs, but somehow I doubt it.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:19 | #

Erratum.

The BBC link should read :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/2/uk_news/6104828.stm


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:23 | #

The Printers Devil is hyperactive today and fuelled by the Chivas 18 year-old.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6104828.stm


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Posted by Boris on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:53 | #

GW
Funny about your last post. Not too long ago I saw on CourtTV in the US on a program called most shocking videos, something very similar to what happened near the airport. On it a gang of black thiefs were casing a shoe store for their usual [removed] theft. However the store had cc and security guard, nontheless the gang struck and to their surprise were initially repeled(it’s interesting to point out that the security guard was black, and did his job though in the end got overwhelmed) but, to everybodies astonishnemt the gang came back and proceeded to duke it out with the owner and security guard, nobody from the store came to their aid, and that my friend is a sad story. This happened in Britain, but I suppose could just as easily happen in LA or New York as well, heck maybe even in the heartland this could happen. Sad.


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Posted by Boris on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 01:06 | #

Yet another tid bit from Court TV, sometimes I wonder if this videos will somehow disapear, but if some else did see it please testify. This clip was from the US in a court house. Even though the report clearly states that the black man killed an elderly white man for ‘no reason whatever’ still he was not charged with a hate crime. Was it because he was high during the comision of the crime? Or likely because it is politically correct? Anyways, after feeling and expressing no remorse during trial the convict had a large support group in the courthouse sitting side by side with the grieving victims family. I could see what was coming next, after only getting 20 years for killing a man this guys family had the nerve to say for everyone to hear(including the grieving family members and bailiffs), that the old choke wasn’t gonna live much longer anyways and thus the punishment was ment to be seen as unjust. All hell broke loose in this scenario, which gives me a little bit more hope than what’s is coming from Western Europe. From experience this is not tolerated in Eastern Europe.


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Posted by rearguard action on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 01:50 | #

I realise Europe’s aging poulation is an economic concern but letting in large numbers of Africans would be a disaster.

If the West is that desperate for Labour pay East Europeans to have babies. How about imposing heavy penalities on protitution in Europe and offering East European women lump sum payments for having babies.

Even white trash are smarter than sub-Suharan Blacks. Lets say you give a Polish women 20,000 Euro’s for having a baby - that would pay for a house deposit and would be hell of a lot cheaper than paying for the fallout from African immigration.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 02:23 | #

I take the pejorative term ‘white trash’ to mean those members of The White race who have engaged in miscegenation.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:01 | #

Regarding GW’s link to the story about the Tunisian maniac, a few comments above:  Add up the costs to the government of this man’s crimes — the costs of police work, hospital and other medical costs for him and his victims, detention in jail, trial costs, further detention costs if he’s convicted and not deported, and other costs as well.  This is exclusive of the private costs borne by his victims and/or their insurance companies, the social costs stemming from their injuries which may have aftereffects far into the future, the effects on their families, employers, and so on — and multiply all that by a gazillion, to have the cost to society of just this one dimension of excessive incompatible immigration, the criminal dimension.  Take into account all its other dimensions, add everything up, and you have something approaching the cost to society of this insane project of permitting excessive Third World immigration.  What the élites are doing in making sure excessive incompatible immigration continues is what Steve Sailer calls “privatizing the profits, socializing the costs”:  the élites don’t pay any of the above costs out of their pockets, the public treasury does.  But they sure as hell rake in the profits from these people’s slave labor, or benefit personally in other ways, such as getting elected to public office thanks to non-white votes, and so on.  Imagine what a scumbag someone has to be to look at stuff like this news story and the billions more news stories just as horrifying we constantly hear about and to say, “I don’t give a damn about that.  I want what’s good for me personally and the rest can go to hell!”

Notice by the way, in the right-hand column of the web-page that linked article’s on, they’re pushing the adoption of Negro children by white women by glorifying actress Emma Thompson’s experience.  There can be no doubt whatsoever but that there’s a major push by coordinated media efforts at the moment to brainwash white women regarding the benefits of adopting Negro kids.  The article says, ” ‘Rainbow’ families are, of course, all the rage in Hollywood [...].”  Well, for one thing, Angelina Laide and Madonna don’t quite add up to “all the rage” ... though it’s not for lack of trying on the part of the honchos who run Hollywood, predominantly Jewish and a good proportion of the rest homosexual.  For another thing, why do I see so few adoptions of Negro children by Hollywood’s Jewish families?  I bring that up because it makes me feel very bad for the Jews, that they are missing out on the incredible benefits of multi-racial, mixed white-Negro Jewish families.  I very much want to see more Jewish couples fly to Africa to adopt Negro babies and children.  It just seems so unfair for them to be missing out on this wonderful way to form a family, which just happens also to be the wave of the future for whites, as Hollywood never tires of pointing out.  Please, Jews, don’t be left behind!  Adopt Negro children!  In fact, the best thing to do is exactly what the whole Jewish-homosexual culture of Hollywood is always so generously recommending to European women:  don’t have any babies of your own, none at all, but make all the children you raise non-white!  It’s such a fabulous way to arrange your life!  I so much hope to see more and more Jewish women and Jewish couples emulating this life-style!  And it goes without saying that Prof. Alon Ziv will make or has already made the multi-racial choice in selecting a Negro wife for himself.  He has, hasn’t he?  I’m certain of it.  He must have ...  No, I’m sure of it.  Absolutely one-hundred-percent positive of it ...................  Yes I am .........................

Depend on it .........................................

You can take it to the bank ....................................

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No, really, you can ...............................................


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Posted by unlimited power on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:37 | #

Christianity, the repugnant disease on our people..

The Jews want us to turn the other cheek while our people’s destruction is in the works, and so many sheep are doing just that.

One million blacks are not worth a white fingernail. Take action against your genetic enemies, and the whores who breed with them.

All you snob elites need to act, or die. It is not a threat, but a promise. The chosen have deemed it.  Call me a troll? It’s time to stop planning escapes to “continental countries” and chuck the invaders from the US and UK.


We will prevail. They will submit.


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Posted by rearguard action on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:05 | #

By ‘white trash’ I am simply implying lower class whites that have lapsed into degenerate lifestyles like prostitution and excessive drug use. I don’t apply it to working class whites in general.

In the 1950s the white underclass hardly exisited, hence if we used a little more ‘tough love’ we could raise fertility levels among the white working class without adverse effects.

Ideally we want more middle class white women to have children but I think it would be quicker to try and raise fertility among poor whites and Eastern Europeans first.


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Posted by Boris on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:12 | #

Rearguard Action
Ukrainian, Polish, Belarusian sites and yes even Baltic States all have on regular news web sites “beautiful women for marriage”. I had never thought of your alternative and I must say I rather like it. Might as well just pay and be done with it, right? Ah, beautiful…........
Let the seed grow in the right soil.


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Posted by Professor Erasmus on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:30 | #

Re: The real ideological alignment: Left/Right Ethnicism vs. Left/Right Internationalism/Globalism/Imperialism/Feudalism

Dear MR: I am a tenured college professor (not Kevin Macdonald, though I’ve come to admire his work), and I must say that this is perhaps the highest-level, most sophisticated discussion I’ve heard in a very long time on the true ideological alignments of the political and media elites of the USA.  By this, I mean that in political science, we have long recognized that perhaps the most important outcome of a debate is determined before the debate even starts—by the framing and the labels used in the debate, which inevitably guide the course of the debate and can be used to deceive those without sufficient critical abilities.  In the US, we always hear about how politics, power and culture in the US today are a battle between Left and Right. 

As you all have astutely recognized, Left and Right in the USA are in fact in basic agreement over the destructive characteristics of the US economy that are having nothing less than genocidal effects on those of Euro-American, White ancestry here, as well as in Canada, Britain and other Anglophone countries in particular. 

Thus, the battle between “Left” and “Right” is little more than a sideshow to distract intellectuals from the real battle for survival that lies underneath.  It is more of a battle between an ideology that fights for the rights to survive and be fairly treated among the native-born and co-ethnic working classes—in our case, both native-born Whites and White co-ethnics—and a globalist, imperialist ideology that has created feudalism at home while encouraging resource wars abroad, a strange hybrid between anti-republican corporatist fascism and cultural Marxist internationalism, which has, as its chief objective, the destruction and race replacement of the White native population with other groups from the Global South, who are considered far more pliable and less likely to oppose or seek to modify the corporatist and anti-White cultural internationalist agenda than native-born Whites.

For the sake of shorthand, I submit that we should frame this ideological battle as “Ethnicist” vs. “Internationalist” or “Ethnicist vs. Globalist.”  “Ethnicist” is roughly similar to “Nationalist” but not quite the same—purely “Nationalist” connotes devotion chiefly to country itself, and the problem is that for the USA, Canada and UK in particular, the “country’s” interest is often equated with Globalist imperialism (as in Iraq), as well as in the race-replacement of White ethnics who are seen as troublesome impediments to the true “national” goals which are really corporatist and cultural Marxist objectives in disguise.  Nationalism in the US and other Anglosphere countries, shockingly enough, has been largely co-opted into Internationalism. 

Most non-Whites in the US, after all, are themselves native-born, but they are in direct opposition to the interests of native-born Whites and White co-ethnics here.  In fact, the Internationalist elites in the United States very patently use the non-Whites as a means to attack the interests and even survival of ethnic Whites, the founders of the nation and the providers of the traditional culture, who are also the most persistent in demanding our rights to fair wages, a clean environment and the right to raise our children in decent neighborhoods. 

Indeed, as one of my good Dutch/Scandinavian/German-American friends from the Midwest recently told me—“I feel little sense of nationalism or patriotic loyalty to ‘country’ anymore when my ‘country’ has effectively been taken over and identified with a media culture that hates me and my family as White people, excuses crimes against us, pushes for our decline and even tries to spread this noxiousness abroad.  I hate paying taxes when so many of those taxes go to pay for the glorification of Greater Israel or kickbacks to corporate buddies of our political elites, or to pay for cushy jobs for affirmative action ‘Division of Diversity’ department leaders at universities and offices, or to pay the salaries of judges who in criminal or divorce cases make sure to stick it to productive Whites and White men in particular as much as they can, or to pay for the perks given to US immigration officials and lobbyists who advocate for the H1-B and for even more arrogant, rude and insulting East Indians to come in here and take the jobs of already-indebted Americans.  I feel far more solidarity with my fellow Whites in any country, than I do to the institution that the US has become, where I will soon be a minority and where my children have ever-dwindling prospects.”

As I shall offer below, Ethnicists here in the US and other Anglophone countries—where we have depressingly little power—do not fit into either the “Left” or the “Right” as they are defined in US politics by our Internationalist media, but are instead something closer to what we call “paleocons” and “paleoliberals” here in the USA, and BOTH the Leftist and the Rightist parties in Continental European countries that care more about fair wages and basic labor and family rights for the working classes among their native-born Whites and co-ethnics, than anything in the Internationalist agenda.  Others have in fact characterized this battle as “Neoliberal and Neoconservative” vs. “Paleoliberal and Paleoconservative,” in fact, but I eschew these labels because of the obvious pejorative nature of the “paleo” prefix.

As a respected professor in the US, I once was of the Internationalist mindset myself, as indeed all of us really have to be to win tenure, even in the sciences.  But a family member of mine was laid off several years ago, which began a horrible downward spiral from which he has yet to recover.  I came to see how despicably this country treats its White professional, technical and working classes and Whites in need, and decided that I could no longer remain silent.

My framing of the debate as “Ethnicist” vs. “Internationalist” or “Ethnicist” vs. “Globalist” was catalyzed by Fred Scrooby’s clever observations here:

“This unholy alliance won’t last much longer, though:  the communists won big in the Dutch elections the day before yesterday but guess what?  They happen to be (yes truth is stranger than fiction, folks ... wait for it ...) they happen to be anti-immigration “

“The difference of course is these south-Dutch reds are indigenous-type home-grown communists, not the Jewish type forever pushing race-replacement, nation-destruction, internationalism, artificially-enforced “radical equality of the sexes,” destruction of morals and patriotism, and so on. “

“our overlords having concluded that in today’s “world economy” they can no longer afford to pay white workingmen’s wages when wogs will work for a tenth to half that, or white professionals’ salaries when wogs will work for half to two-thirds.”

Combine this with the observations of others about the ruinous effects of outsourcing and the H1-B visa program as others have been noting, and we can see that’s happening.  The contempt and hatred for the demands of the White working classes constitute the subtext of the pleas from the likes of our White-hating modern overlords such as Bill Gates and Larry Ellison, when they argue strenuously that “we don’t have enough US-trained professionals, we don’t have enough US-trained professionals” as they push to allow still more Indians into the US to kick out Americans and still more high-tech jobs to be outsourced abroad.

With all due respect, this is BS: The US tech industry has actually been rather stagnant for over 5 years now.  There’s no “shortage” of US-trained professionals, just a shortage who would take a job for slave wages that nobody could realistically survive on.  The only effect of this outsourcing and H1B importation is to send still more US jobs to India and give those few remaining in the US to cheap-labor Indians, the “wogs” who don’t cause as much trouble as those irritating, troublesome US Whites who actually demand a wage that fairly reflects their training and college debt and is enough to raise a family on, considering the staggering cost of living in this nation. 

The hard-hit US Whites are then left competing for the scraps, a few leftover tech jobs with plummeting wages and horrific working hours and damagingly stressful working conditions.  People like Bill Gates and Larry Ellison are leading the charge in a full-fledged war against White Americans.  Notice that Gates, for example, also initiated a scholarship that made sure to specifically exclude poor White Americans, and the charities that he does support (mostly focused on Africa) make sure to cut Whites out as much as possible.  He’s just another member of the White aristocracy who, as you all have been writing, has dedicated himself to the eradication of the White race in general, which is far too inconvenient for his own profits with their demands.  Public Enemy #1.

I wonder if nothing short of a revolution, or secession from the US, could save our people from destruction now.  Both parties have aligned with the White-hating consensus of the media and the US aristocracy.  In fact, both arms of the aristocracy—both the corporate aristocracy and the liberal Marxist aristocracy of the media and academia—have introduced policies that virtually guarantee the elimination of our people within a single generation. 

As I have found throughout academia, moreover, this Internationalist push occurs across almost every department, even in the natural sciences.  Among its worst proponents are the economists, the Intellectual Brownshirts—famously described by Steve Sailer as being “Aspergery” in their outlook for the way that they tend to reduce complex human beings into mere commodities, trashing the importance of things such as ethnic ties, culture, family and fairness by basically speaking of “collateral damage” and “unavoidable roadkill” when they talk about the “virtues of free trade.”  They do this even as they advocate massive outsourcing and still more expansions of the H1B visa program, replacement of native-born American nurses with cheaper (and more poorly-trained) nurses from the Philippines, doubling our legal immigration quotas, and other obviously moronic and incredibly damaging ideas that any American gifted with common sense can see as insane. 

We White Americans are slated for minority status in only 20-25 years, with our political power dwindling with rapid speed beforehand and particularly thereafter, which is precisely what our elites want.  That way, rather than White members of the middle class who inconveniently ask for living wages and basic fair treatment, they’ll have nice, malleable White serfs with a majority of other non-White serfs who keep their mouths shut and further the bottoming of wages and maximization of profiteering, while giving the elites greater power to silence us by threatening to replace us with a nice, manipulable non-White sheep who would happily take our place for lower wages.

BTW Fred I am, again, quite intrigued by the example you raise of the Dutch leftist party which is, in fact, anti-immigration and opposed to what Leftists in North America (and London and Canberra) are pushing.  I wasn’t aware of this particular example although I have heard very similar sentiments from other native, home-grown Leftist parties elsewhere in European countries.  I have in fact spent some years working in Europe for sabbaticals and attending conferences. 

If I may offer a hypothesis: Continental European countries like the Netherlands, Germany and France, for all their flaws, have Leftist parties which have a tradition of being more interested in old-style respect for the working class, and support for labor unions, the way the Left in the US originally had been during the days of Eugene Debs early in the 20th century.  Thus, European leftists are more focused on the rights of the poor and working-class Whites in their own population—they are more of a traditional Nativist leftist faction, rather than the incredibly destructive, partly Jewish-fueled Race War-leftism that we have in the United States which, in the US, has made common cause with the corporatist Right!  Even the so-called “Christian Right” has joined in with the Internationalists—as I’ll talk about below, the Dispensationalist section of the evangelical Christian Right is loudly and dangerously pro-Israeli, and is responsible in no small part for drawing the US into the Iraqi disaster.  These pseudo-Christians are the useful idiots of the Internationalists.

Fascinatingly, it suggests a fundamental difference between the European Left and the US Left.  The European Left (most of it at least) is serious about actual Leftist ideas of class as applied to the native population, and whatever its flaws, demands rights and fair wages for the native White population.  So, the European left is an Ethnicist left, as opposed to the Internationalist left in the USA.  This may be at the heart of why Europe on the Continent has been busy enacting so many restrictive immigration laws lately that are actually quite favorable to White co-ethnics—there, both the Leftists and the Rightists can agree that mass immigration is harmful to their societies, if for quite different reasons.

In the US, the position of the Left (and the Right) is far, far different.  The American Left doesn’t actually walk the traditionalist Leftist walk and, in fact, has little interest in the rights of the Working classes and the Proletariat, especially the White working classes.  Rather, the US Left has been taken over by radical Internationalism, and in this, it has found common cause with the Internationalist, imperialist, corporatist Right that is busy turning us into a feudal society where workers have few rights at all to protest unfair wages and plummeting working conditions. 

Thus, this Internationalist, neocon/neoliberal Left-Right alliance in the US despises labor unions, demands for fair wages, and native laborers in the US most of all, and both—again, for different reasons though they share the same conclusion—are able to agree that race replacement of the native-born White population is the top priority. 

Continued…


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Posted by Professor Erasmus on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:53 | #

The real ideological battle underneath the surface therefore isn’t between Left and Right, but between the Ethnicists who fight for the rights of native-born Whites and foreign-born White co-ethnics of all classes, including the poor (which involves many Ethnicist Leftists as well as Rightists, such as the Dutch, German and French Leftist parties), and the Internationalists who strive to bring about, as their ultimate objective, the destruction and replacement of the native-born White population to powerlessly serve both the Left and the Right elite.  Again, among conservatives in the US, this can also be framed (roughly) as neocons vs. paleocons—with the neocon ideology, pushed by business elites and Likud-friendly Jewish intellectuals writing in magazines like the Weekly Standard and National Review among others, dominating the Republicans, while among the American Democrats there really is no Ethnicist Leftism at all, only the Internationalist, neoliberal variety.

There is of course nothing unusual about Ethnicism in general and, in fact, the majority of countries embrace it.  The Koreans, Japanese and Chinese are quite restrictive toward immigration into their countries, and would never allow, for example, millions of Africans, Indians and Central Americans to stream in.  (Israel obviously has this policy as well—try to suggest to a pro-Israeli American that Israel should “diversify” by inviting in millions of Palestinians, and see how far the conversation lasts after that!)  They are, moreover, quite protective and concerned about their fellow Korean, Japanese and Chinese and for their East Asian co-ethnics in general. 

Ethnicism, moreover, is entirely compatible with Progressivism and altruism to non-ethnics.  In fact, Ethnicism is recognized as a basic prerequisite for altruism at home and also abroad, since it recognizes that the foundation at home must be secure to enable a country to be generous to outsiders.  Ethnicism, at its root in many ways, is the recognition that true diversity is the diversity among ethnically distinct nations, as Alexander Solzhenitsyn himself recognized, and that it’s best to maintain separate physical, ethnic and cultural groups in separate nations, then to learn from each from the foundation of those intact, confident, ethnically distinct nation-states with distinctive histories and peoples.  Ethnicism, after all, is not supremacist—it’s anti-imperialist and pro-republic at root—and it isn’t in-your-face against other peoples, either.  It’s just a quiet, generally commonsensical recognition that countries have to be for the people that founded and built them in the first place.  Ethnicism recognizes that the destruction of a country’s founding people, race-replacement, globalism, feudalism and imperialism are terrible disasters for everyone, since they break the bonds of community in a country that encourage altruism to other peoples in the first place. 

To be generous in general, a nation must be secure and clear in its identity at home and resist Internationalism, since only then will it be in a condition to provide assistance overall.  Ethnicism also demands respect for the natural environment which sustains a people, and also encourages this in people overall.  This, I suspect, is why the Scandinavian countries, Germany, Japan and China have recently been so generous with foreign aid overall and why the first three, in particular, are such bellwethers of environmentalism (and China is already moving in that direction as well)—they are largely Ethnicist countries.  Sweden seems to be stupidly trying to change that—the country is a slave to the Internationalist English-language media these days, as I found out when I was staying in Uppsala some years back—but hopefully, the country’s traditional Ethnicism will check that, as I did sense in my most recent trip there.  To be generous abroad, Sweden and other countries need to be Ethnicist at home.

Even though the battle still rages there as well, the European Continent has therefore also largely chosen the Ethnicist approach and has a much stronger tradition of such Ethnicist Left and Right parties than the Anglophone nations, which is why both the Rightist and, increasingly, the Leftist parties there are looking skeptically at mass Third World immigration and pushing for restrictions, with some success recently.  Both Left and Right find common cause in defending the Rights of the native White working classes, even if they disagree on why they come to their conclusions—the opposite of what we see in the United States, for example.

As a corollary, such Leftist/Rightist Ethnicism is also far more consistent with respect for White co-ethnics who may stream in from other nations.  This is why, for example, the Leftist parties in Germany—rather than pushing for the opening of German borders to massive immigration from Africa and Arab countries—instead focus most of their “respect for outsiders” rhetoric on the rights of the Aussiedler, the ethnic Germanic and other White peoples, often poor and vulnerable, who have flooded into Germany from Russia, Kazakhstan, the Ukraine, Lithuania, Belarus, Estonia, as well as North and South America, Western Europe and South Pacific countries by many millions in the past 10 years. 

The US, Canada, Britain and Australia have by and large, chosen the Internationalist approach, which is why the elites among both Left and Right push mass immigration, outsourcing, affirmative action, miscegenation, radical feminism, dysgenic policies regulating marriage and divorce as many others have been pointing out, environmental destruction, extreme work hours, massive federal and private debt, cruel bankruptcy laws, a blatantly pro-Israeli foreign policy and unrestricted “free” trade.

And part and parcel of the Internationalist Leftism/Rightism in the Anglophone countries is Imperialism, which explains still further anti-White policies like the Iraq War and US/British/Australian positions on Iran, to the benefit of Israel.  Israel, of course, is also by far the largest beneficiary of US foreign aid—basically a big check taken from the pockets of US taxpayers to Israel.  So the dangerous Internationalist Left and Corporatist, Imperialist Right in the US, UK, Canada and Australia reinforce each other.

This of course leads to another corollary—why does the European Native Nationalist Left differ so much from the Internationalist Left of the US and other Anglosphere countries?  Part of it may indeed be the thing that I hate to admit but I’m sure a lot of us recognize—the media and cultural elites in the US and Britain are disproportionately Jewish, and the US media in particular, which basically sets the tone for other English-speaking countries, is utterly Jewish-dominated.  While not all Jews may buy into this, the powerful Jewish Elites in the US feel separated from US Gentile Whites not only by class, but by race and see the White working and middle classes as potential threats on many different levels. 

I sympathize with the Jewish people in many ways and on one level can relate to their anxiety in the face of the White Gentile masses, considering their history.  They see themselves as outsiders opposed to the native culture of countries in which they’re guests.  However, the fact remains that the subtle tribalist warfare conducted by Jewish elites against White Gentiles in the USA, which is intended to rob us of solidarity and White racial consciousness in general and even to discourage us from having our own White children—while attacking our economic foundations and even excusing racial crimes committed against us—is absolutely reprehensible.  Still less excusable is the extortion racket of massive US taxpayer aid to Israel, the black-out of open discussion on US involvement in Israeli issues and the way the neocons draw the US into Israel’s regional wars.  These actions are even more infuriating when we consider that Israel itself *is* a refuge for Jews today, and there’s much less of a need for elite Jews abroad to so viciously antagonize the White Gentiles in countries that act as generous hosts to them—they have a refuge.  I suspect that these elite Jews thus cause harm to many of their own fellow Jews as well as to White Gentiles by pushing such antagonism.  But the fact is, elite Jews on the “Right” and on the “Left” have fully embraced this Internationalism and, as the US cultural and media elites, have essentially turned the English-speaking world in general into one big Internationalist mess.  In many respects, it’s a form of tribal warfare in clever disguise.

Even one of our most important traditional bulwarks against such outsider extortion—the evangelical Christian religion in many of its denominations—has effectively been corrupted.  In the US these days, Dispensationalism is a major branch of evangelical Christianity, recognizable for example in the Left Behind stupidity, the 700 Club and other cultist groups obsessed with the Rapture and the idea that a Jewish Temple must be rebuilt in Jerusalem, and Israel must expand its borders.  Thus, as I was hinting above, many US evangelical Christians have effectively become the “useful idiots” of the Internationalists who run the country, with a symbiotic relationship with pro-Israeli Likud Jewish Internationalists, in particular.

Thus, in the Anglosphere countries, this elite Jewish Internationalist opinion drives both the Left (mass immigration, miscegenation, radical feminism) and Right (outsourcing, H1-B visa program, environmental ruin, imperalistic war in the Middle East), as well as things like reckless support of Israel and mass transfer of income from US taxpayers to Israel, which both parties unequivocally support, and are even given extra “muscle” to wage pro-Israeli Middle Eastern wars, via many of the deluded, useful idiot evangelical Christian branches that have made unswerving support for aggressive Israeli expansion a plank in their own theology and cultural ideology. 

This is why Walt and Mearsheimer drew such vociferous hatred and sustained such attacks when they dared to criticize US alignment with Israel—the arguments between the US Left and Right are mere distractions since both adhere closely to the Jewish Internationalist approach, whereas Walt and Mearsheimer got a little too close to the real truth in the background.

A brief historical perspective, since I think this can help us to see how we’ve reached this desperate point for our people in Britain and North America:  Prior to the First World War, Leftism and Rightism in the US, as in Europe, also adhered largely to the Ethnicist model—which is why the Socialist Eugene Debs, for example, fought so strenuously for the rights of White laborers against exploitative big corporations, and for fair wages.  However, WWI brought in the Internationalist Woodrow Wilson, which in turn led to vociferous attacks against “isolationism” and Wilson’s murderous violence toward Labor leaders.  Wilson was fully aligned with the Internationalist corporate elites who realized the menace that ethnic White solidarity was posing, and Wilson also made sure to encourage severe hatred against White Irish-Americans and German-Americans, since this would help to break down their sense of solidarity with White ethnics overseas—including many fighting their own version of imperialism—and soften the US for entry into WWI and the prolongation of that fratricidal killing spree, with the disastrous Versailles Treaty that paved the way for even more White killing.  The prolongation of that war also helped to lay the foundation of the Jewish state in Israel via ancillary treaties with the Ottoman Turks and their successor state, and British/French protectorates in the Middle East.

The best result from WWI for Whites in general (and for the non-White peoples in the overseas colonies, for that matter) would have been a stalemate and an armistice restoring something like the status quo ante, with the combatants chastened into realizing the worthlessness (and definitely no longer romantic nature) of modern warfare upon each other.  A lesson learned, with no knockout punch for any side, to prove the futility of fratricidal European warfare while simultaneously providing Europe with some breathing room to recover.  An armistice was in fact close in 1916 and 1917. 

But both Jewish and Gentile Internationalists were starting to spread their venom.  The Balfour Declaration came about in 1917, and at that point, Jewish Internationalists in particular had to make sure that the war was prolonged, while some allied Gentile Internationalists—and yes, many of these were in the banking industry (there’s some truth to the conspiracy theories)—saw profit in a remaking of the world order on the Continent, and the crushing and brutalization of the poor and middle class Whites throughout Europe.  Internationalist Bolsheviks in Russia—both Jewish and Gentile—meanwhile saw their own plans aided by the continuation of the war, and so Kerensky in Russia was pushed by the Allies to continue fighting, even though his withdrawal would have saved Russia and Eastern Europe from the Bolshevik catastrophe, including the Holodomor and the mass purges in Eastern European countries.

It was after the World Wars that the European Continent took a different ideological direction from the Anglophone countries, especially the Atlanticist Anglo-American alliance.  The wars and disasters in the colonies—where native military forces defeated the British and French militaries in Southeast Asia, North Africa and Arab countries (as well as in the heart of Ireland, where the British had been expelled following the Anglo-Irish war after WWI)—destroyed the British Empire and that of the French.  But the self-conception as an imperialist nation persisted in Britain long after the 1960’s even as the Algerian disaster and other factors began to weaken it in France, a self-conception which transformed itself into Globalism and the loss of a sense of being a distinct, Western nation. 

With the help of Internationalist Jewish control of English-language media and the US’s own growing imperialist aspirations—further fueled by the profits from banking and creeping corporatist control over the levers of power, which benefited both Jewish and Gentile Internationalists— the Internationalist agenda came to dominate both major parties in the United States and, more importantly, became the foundation of the “elite” culture here.  As someone once said, the ultimate political battles are the cultural battles, after all, and Internationalism is regnant here.


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Posted by Professor Erasmus on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:57 | #

By contrast, the Ethnicist Left and Right and the media in non-Anglophone European countries are still largely controlled by native-born Gentile Whites.  The Continent had not been so deeply involved in the imperialistic enterprise in the 19th century, and many countries—such as Germany and Italy—had only recently become countries at all, and thus had no conceptions of themselves as Globalist institutions.  They were White, Western countries and had no doubt about that, even though they still displayed substantial curiosity for ideas from outside and the respect and generosity toward others that is so characteristic of Ethnicist countries.  While they still have their own fits of stupidity on many issues today, nonetheless they’re more inclined to embracing true Ethnicist stands to protect their native-born Whites and White co-ethnics who happen to be poor.

It is therefore evident that, while stands like support for mass immigration/affirmative action and support for fair wages/labor rights are often lumped together as “Leftist,” in fact, they’re differentially embraced depending on whether the Leftists are Ethnicist or Internationalist.  Ethnicist Leftists on the European Continent support labor rights and fair wages while being far more skeptical about mass immigration and outright opposed to affirmative action.  Internationalist Leftists in the Anglosphere are the opposite—big supporters of racial replacement schemes, mass immigration and affirmative action, while being opposed to fair wages and labor rights.  This explains why so many prominent US liberals, such as the extremely dangerous Hillary Clinton and Joseph Biden, have such contempt for the US White working classes while being big supporters of racial replacement schemes—they are members of the Internationalist Left, not the Ethnicist Left, and they find common cause with the corporate plutocrats of the Right, which is why people like Rupert Murdoch support them.

In fact, the 2008 election is likely to be little more than a sideshow.  Almost certainly, we’ll have candidates from both parties who have received the seal of approval from the Internationalists who actually control the culture and the political debate here—both the corporate plutocrats and the anti-White cultural Marxists—and both will have similar stands on key issues.  It will probably be Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democrats, and either John McCain or Rudy Giuliani for the Republicans, who have similar Internationalist leanings.  While I would still vote even for a Republican like McCain or Giuliani if the Democratic choice were Hillary—she’s far too dangerous and even more Internationalist in her crazy ambitions than McCain and Giuliani, who would probably do a bit less damage—for most Democrat-on-Republican matchups, they’re really little more than distractions from the underlying battle between Ethnicism and Internationalism, where Internationalism utterly dominates in the USA.

Again, I have to emphasize that outside of other factors, perhaps the single most damaging and persistent basis for the disastrous Internationalism that rules the culture of the English-speaking countries, is probably Imperialism and its modern deadly spawn, Globalism.  Imperialism is especially awful in the Anglosphere countries.  Many British elites still stupidly adhere to the belief that their empire was in general good, a civilizing mission for the dark-skinned heathens.  This drives them to believe that Britain itself is a “home to the world,” a globalist nation-state, rather than a distinct country from the hordes of the Global South with its own, very Western and Germanic traditions.

They fail to realize that the Empire was incredibly ruinous to the poor and destitute, both the Whites at home and the swarthy peoples abroad.  Historians have pointed out that British policies directly killed tens of millions of people on the Indian Subcontinent though economic ruin and blocking food distribution as well as in Oceania and Africa, while at the same time brutalizing and killing millions of poor Whites in India and in Britain itself. 

It’s notable that following external shocks to the British Empire—defeats against Afghanistan in the mid-1800’s, the destruction and bankruptcy from the World Wars, humiliating defeats in the Mediterranean, Egypt (Suez) and southern Arabia after WWII—the British elites faced vociferous anti-imperial appeals from their own White working classes, who loathed the feudalism at home that was essentially perpetuated by the British Empire abroad.  Winston Churchill, an aristocrat, absolutely hated the working-class and poor Whites in Britain, Ireland and the rest of Europe—even to the point of killing many of them—and was depressed by the destruction of the Empire.  The White working classes cheered the British Empire’s demise, as it had been nothing but misery for them. 

At least in prior decades, the European imperialists largely balked at opening up their countries to mass immigration from the outside.  But Britain and other Anglosphere countries still maintain a dangerous nostalgia for that world-straddling Imperialism, and in the 21st century, that Imperialism has been transformed into something far more lethal for their White middle and working classes than even the original imperialism was.  Modern Anglosphere imperialism is now closely intertwined with globalism and the beliefs that their countries are strictly Global and not distinct ethnic entities. 

This serves the Internationalist Leftists well, and also lines the pockets of the Imperialist, neocon Rightists, who get rich off the low-cost labor and malleable sheep among the imported laborers from places like India, where the laboring classes know to keep their mouth shut, as compared to the troublesome native-born Whites who dare to demand things like fair wages.

This Globalist Imperialism, combined with elite Jewish media control and the feudalist leanings of our modern rentier economy—where working-class and even professional Whites are expected to behave as serfs—is behind the Internationalist inclination of Leftism and Rightism in the US and other Anglophone nations, as opposed to the more Ethnicist leanings on the European Continent. 

I suspect this may also be behind the reason why so many among our people have been emigrating to the European Continent recently, at least to the German-speaking countries.  I don’t agree with it and wouldn’t do it myself, but I think this is what’s underlying it—Whites, especially Germanic Whites in Anglosphere countries, have come to realize that their nation-states have effectively come under the control of an Internationalist self-conception that controls all levers of the media and government.  They prefer countries with a more Ethnicist predilection among their political leadership and media, and I guess that the Continental, especially German-speaking countries provide this, especially to their Nordic co-ethnics.  Leftists in Germany as well as in the Netherlands are either skeptical of or outright opposed to mass immigration and other anti-White policies, preferring instead to focus on labor rights for native-born Whites and White co-ethnics.  So, Whites in the Globalistic, imperialistic, feudalistic and Internationalistic Anglophone countries are voting with their feet, and emigrating to countries with more Ethnicist perspectives.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:47 | #

An excellent analysis by Prof. Erasmus.  I’d disagree with some details but on the whole it was really very good.  His distinction between the ethnicist left and internationalist left is, as far as I know, original — and seems entirely sound.  Needless to add, it’s a distinction which explains a great deal.


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Posted by Matra on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:53 | #

Christianity has gone.  It belongs to the past.  We can let it go.  It was, in any case, never of us.

Speak for yourself secular Englishman. A week or so ago you embraced the laughable leftist global warming religion. You even said it was more important than the survival of the white race. So much for EGI being the ultimate interest! This week you attack Christianity - the real religion of the West. Those of us who feel we are are a part of the West including its religion have to wonder about the direction MR is taking.

What religion would the Christian-haters at this website have us embrace? Some pagan nonsense perhaps? Alain de Benoist started that only a few decades ago and has already ended up making excuses for Muslim and other Third World aggression against Europeans unlike the Christians who took nearly two thousand years to accept egalitarianism.

Christianity, the repugnant disease on our people.

So Western Christians have been egalitarians for the last millenium? Can you give examples of Western Christian self-hatred during the Middle Ages? So why did the Christians submit to liberalism only in the 20th century and not, say, the 16th? Why have Jews spent so much time and energy trying to undermine Christianity if it suits their purposes?


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Posted by Election Summary on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:10 | #

Why have Jews spent so much time and energy trying to undermine Christianity if it suits their purposes?

Simple—Jews torch to smoking ashes the old order to build theirs unopposed.  Doesn’t imply that the old setup was particularly sound—witness their ongoing, to-the-death takedown of Islam, which for the past five years has unfolded before us.


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Posted by Alex Zeka on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:04 | #

rearguard action,

Europe does not need a population boost. We need the precise opposite.

However, whilst the Blighted States of America continue to let in Mestizos no questions asked whilst erecting a Byzantine barrier of red tape before any legal migrant, there’s no real, humane way of achieving a population reduction.


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Posted by Themistocles on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:19 | #

Bravo, Professor—you’ve expressed a very subtle truth much more comprehensively, and in much greater depth than I for one ever could.  There are so many valuable points in your post it’s hard to identify just one or two, but a couple in particular stood out for me. 

One:  “As a respected professor in the US, I once was of the Internationalist mindset myself, as indeed all of us really have to be to win tenure, even in the sciences.”  That says A LOT.  I wonder if the same did in fact apply to Kevin MacDonald and the tiny handful of other tenured professors who actually talk honestly about the predicament of White Americans—they had to buy into the Internationalist outlook to even think about getting tenure in the first place, then finally toss out their delusions either due to personal experiences like yours, or perhaps because they were craftily hiding their true grasp of our plight all along.  Whatever the case, you all are rarities and we’re glad a few of you are around.

Unfortunately, this also means that the vast, vast, vast majority of academics pretty much have to be Internationalist to get anywhere in their careers in the US, and almost all of them will truly be Internationalist in their worldview.  That means that the intellectual elite that, unfortunately, essentially defines US “high culture” is Internationalist.  These people control academia so much, there’s no realistic chance they can be dislodged from within.  So it seems that we’re stuck with Internationalist principles at the heart of our culture.

Also, I like the term “Ethnicist,” I feel this strikes about the right balance between being neutral (and technical) enough to be reasonably non-polemic, while unflinchingly focusing our minds on the real deal. 

You’ve really clarified something I’ve long had a hard time piecing together—I don’t feel represented by conservative Republicans and certainly not by liberal Democrats in their modern incarnations in the US, in fact I feel like neither party comes close to representing me and the vast majority of other American Whites.  I hate the Republicans’ contempt for fair labor practices and especially the way they flood our country to push down the wages of even high-tech, well-educated (and inevitably indebted) workers, as you point out with the H1-B program. 

I especially hate the Republicans’ obsession with corporate welfare, the military-industrial complex (which pushes us to foreign imperialistic wars and does nothing for rank-and-file White Americans) and of course the Republican obsession with the Israeli alliance, hand-in-hand with the obsession of some evangelical Christians with Israeli supremacy, a perversion of Christian ideals by any standard.  I don’t mind supporting Israel to the extent that they live peacefully with their neighbors, but I don’t want my tax dollars going to support Israeli settlements. 

I hate the Democrats even more—their support for affirmative action, miscegenation, feminism, their own backing of mass immigration, their tendency to make everything into a legalistic total war (our clogged, anti-White courts and divorce courts as others have been talking about being major examples), and their own pro-Israeli machinations make me angry.

Paleocon Ethnicism (which is I guess the closest cousin we have to European-style Ethnicism, which actually has some political clout) is all but dead in the halls of power in the US, and it doesn’t look like it could ever be resuscitated.  That really underlies a lot of the frustration that Whites here feel—nothing out there represents the values we hold most dear.

One other conclusion here, is that your sage analysis also makes sense for me out of why the elites from both political parties (and especially the neoconservatives) so fulminantly hate Europe, and in part why they seem so interested in trying to sever many of us White Americans from our European heritage. 

This emphasizes why strong “conservative” views in the absence of critical thinking can be so damaging for our cause—many posters on the Free Republic site, I suspect, sympathize with our ideas at a gut level, but they’ve been tricked and deceived by the neocons into supporting disastrously anti-White ventures such as the Iraq War.  They’ve been labeled as false “allies” of the people at e.g. Little Green Footballs, who basically sound like Right-Wing loudmouths but in fact, are vigorously in favor of drawing the US into deadly, stupid imperialistic wars like the Iraq conflict.  The Freepers have also been duped by the neocons into almost hating Europe and hating their own European heritage, and of course some branches of evangelical Christian denominations themselves seem to have forgotten the European roots of their own Protestant faith.

The neocons and other Internationalists hate Europe because Ethnicist groups actually have real power there and exercise it, politically and culturally.  I was never much surprised that the Internationalists hated France so much, that’s expected (though I still don’t approve of it). 

But I’ve been especially enraged at the way the neocons and other Internationalists have disparaged Germany, and I say this as a full-blooded Polish-American.  The German people have done tremendous things to build the USA.  It was German industrial technology in things like chemistry and auto manufacturing that was shared with the US in the late 19th century and has served as the foundation for our own high-tech society, plus German philosophy and scientific prowess, and of course the German people themselves (to the tune of over 90 million ethnic German North Americans) have brought their high-quality contributions to North America.  Their accomplishments are also the most clarion proof of what the White peoples of the world collectively can achieve for the world.  I’ve even been studying German myself for many years, and I hope that German is revived as one of the languages of North America: for me personally at least and my family, German sort of has the status that Hebrew does for Jews and Arabic has for the scattered Arab peoples, as a kind of prestige language or special ethnic standard for people with an enormous Diaspora.  As English itself becomes a majority non-White language, this assumes even more importance for me at least.  So it’s made me especially angry that the neocons have been so vicious at attacking Germany—that’s sucker-punching a friend that’s stood by and even built much of this country in the first place.

Every movement needs its canon of intellectual documents, and I’d certainly nominate your series of articles to be one of them.  I’ve always thought of White nationalism as a basically benign, commonsensical movement that’s little different from the solidarity movements that Blacks, Puerto-Ricans, and Jews for example, strenuously reserve for themselves.  The Internationalist media always tries to slander us as White supremacists, and that’s not what we’re about.  (If anything, I’m inclined to give East Asia an edge in human capital, at least in some respects.) 

We want nothing more than what just about every other group seeks—to protect the integrity of our people and culture, and ensure our children identify with the heritage of their parents.  This is common sense to almost every other group, but it seems that only Whites are to be denied this to ourselves and are to slowly accept our powerless decline, as the Internationalist media and high culture seems to proclaim.  This is indefensible, and I’m glad that someone of your stature has been keen enough to realize this and disciplined enough to articulate your thoughts for us as you have.  It’s an honor that you’ve used this forum in which to do it.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:43 | #

Matra,

I have never claimed to be a secularist myself, rather the reverse I would have thought.  However, I do not possess the capacity for religious faith.  I can’t believe in a personal God or a God of Creation.  I can admire and respect that beauty which resides in the buildings, the ritual, the age-encrusted tradition of faith among the British peoples.  But that’s not enough, obviously, and for me, therefore, the contemplation of life’s purpose is necessarily a private and retiring affair.

I certainly claim that the Anglican Church has self-secularised and, in any other field where extreme feeling did not so command the stage, would be described pdq as a busted flush ... in John Reid’s probably immortal phrase, “not fit for purpose”.  “Archbishop” John Sentamu’s days in Canterbury - when they come - will probably mark the last page, a good man and faithful shepherd though he no doubt is.

So, as always, I am intrigued by what might lie in the future.  Do the maths.  If a political nationalism can indeed save our racial being, then what will be its relationship to an antipathetic, universalist Anglicanism?

Unstable, I would have thought.  Obviously, the theoretic possibility exists for Anglicanism to eschew its present course.  But I do not expect that it will be able to do so.  The reverence for a heroic self that informed the Anglican Church of the war years was out-manouvred by the men of superior conscience, the petty successors of Bishop Bell.  They are all Bells now, and they will retire into their sanctified anti-racism and damn our survival as loudly as they are able.  But ... liberalism as faith in conflict with racial survival will, when liberalism is on the run everywhere else, mean the end of the Anglican Church - unless, as I say, by some (earthly) miracle it can purify and rebuild itself.

A couple of other quick points.  Do I accept that we would be wise to heed the dictums of global warming and its man-made causality in the absence of really conclusive science?  Well, again, do the maths.  What is at stake if economic activity is throttled back needlessly?  What is at stake if we just blast on as we are, and the case for man-made emissions is sound?

I am not a scientist.  I am simply seeking to steer by the most judicious course.

MR, btw, is not being “taken” in any new philosophical direction.  It is a place where not my opinions but all our opinions are equally at risk of destruction ... or validifaction ... or improvement.  Usually the latter, I think.  Your opinions are, as you must know, most welcome.  That certainly hasn’t changed, and nor will it.

If you have any particular concerns on that score please mail me.


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Posted by Saturated Fats on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 11:27 | #

“not Kevin Macdonald, though I’ve come to admire his work”

Yeah, I think we figured that out already.  MacDonald would not be putting us to sleep with endless, verbose posts repeating over and over again how we need to emigrate to continental Europe.

::yawn::


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Posted by Themistocles on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:34 | #

“Themistocles, This week , I heard a 15 second sound bit of a lecture at Harvord University in the “ Whitness Study”, this was a lecture by an Afro Aamerican Professor ( Agitprop appointed obviousally) Who in total called for the anhiallation of the whit race,”

That’s fascinating Andrew, and I’ve noticed this on more than a few occasions in academic circles (as I’m sure the good Professor has as well)—openly genocidal anti-White statements, on top of all the subtle jabs and humiliations, are not only countenanced, but welcomed outright in US universities.  Even more appalling, this tends to be extremely common in the so-called “elite” universities of the Ivy League and at analogous elite universities like Stanford and the University of Chicago, where hatred of Whites is at the heart of the curriculum, and just about every student and faculty member has to sign a kind of blood oath agreeing to it.  And it’s Harvard and the other elite universities, with their anti-White diatribes, that are considered the cultural trendsetters for the USA!  It’s madness.

For some analogous examples, check out these links:  “Thought Reform 101” by Alan Charles Kors:

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/harvard_genocide.htm

and “Harvard Hates the White Race” by Paul Craig Roberts:

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/harvard_genocide.htm

I dealt with this crap too back when I was in college in Illinois—that sort of thought control, that Orwellian sort of reeducation camp stuff was genuinely creepy.  Here I was, a college freshman looking forward to studying physics, meet new friends (of all races) and learn about the world—and on the first day of orientation, those of us with the “illness” of White skin were told to answer the question, “So, how does it feel to be a member of such an oppressive, intrinsically evil race of people?  And how do you plan to overcome your innate racism to welcome the people of color at a place so diverse as this?”  The malice in that lady’s voice (she was one of these “Diversity Task Force” leaders), condemning me and my fellow Whites in such a blanket manner, even today angers me. 

FWIW she was Northeast Jewish and probably a lesbian, as we found out later.  Why is this relevant?  Because the truth is, a ridiculously disproportionate number of the “Whites” who push this supposedly “anti-racist” ideology on us (and it’s not anti-racist in any form—it’s viciously, hatefully racist against Whites) are Jews.  In their own hearts they don’t identify as Whites—they’re Jews, of a rival and, in their minds, superior tribe—but to the politically correct media, they identify themselves as Whites to fool people further, saying, “Look, see?  I’m White and I’m pushing this White-hating bile, so all you other Whites should hate yourselves too.”  Thinly disguised and quite clever tribal warfare against White Gentiles: Impersonation followed by indoctrination.  I have to add the disclaimer of course, that many if not most Jewish people aren’t like this, but an appallingly disproportionate number of them are.  Alon Ziv as he’s been discussed here, is but one of many examples.

Neocons such as Morton Kondracke and Charles Krauthammer are famous for noting the low White birth rate in the US—a result in no small part of the very neocon policies that they foster—and then going on to argue that the solution is massive non-White immigration and miscegenation of the Whites who remain!  Also, remember that ACLU attorney who led the charge to abolish Proposition 209 in California against racial/gender preferences—and who very nearly succeeded in the courts?  His name was Mark Rosenbaum.  Of course, Prop. 209 has become a dead letter anyway—it’s been so thoroughly gutted by the legislature and bureaucracy since its passage, and evaded with such laughable ease, that it’s basically not in effect at all. 

Same for most of the founding and prominent feminists—Gloria Steinem, Betty Friedan, Naomi Wolf, Susan Faludi.  Jewish women who posed as Whites and targeted Whites for reception of their feminist messages.  Non-Whites, of course, have in practice been generally exempted, and of course in Israel such feminism is frowned upon (with good reason). 

I like to think, in my heart of hearts, that at least a part of the Jewish ethos in America—that of an outsider looking in, and of questioning the old order—may have a salutary effect in some ways.  Progress, after all, comes about to a significant extent by questioning otherwise unexamined assumptions, and in the natural sciences as well as in the social sciences to some extent, I like to think that the Jewish contribution has been important, by helping to encourage that questioning perspective.  The problem is, social progress requires that, even as tradition is questioned, that the foundation itself remain solid.  If you push against tradition so extremely hard that you break down the very foundations that any society depends on, social progress is undercut and the society dissolves.  And espousing massive immigration, miscegenation, radical feminism and race replacement—along with the stifling political correctness of college campuses—is not social progress, but an attack on the heart of a society.  It’s especially alarming that so many pose as White even if they consider themselves other—that’s just misrepresentation.


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Posted by Themistocles on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:39 | #

BTW, Sat Fats—maybe try learning to read next time?  The Prof states outright that he’s opposed to exactly what you’re criticizing.  It’s a fair observation that there are fundamental differences in the very underlying nature of what we term “Leftism” as it’s defined in different countries, and indeed, the meaning of “Right/Left” here in the US is very different from “Right/Left” in Europe and, I think, very illustrative.  What you do with that knowledge (whether you move or plan to stay here, as I and apparently Professor plan to do) is your decision.  Though it might help to actually understand what’s being said first.


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Posted by Al Ross on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:32 | #

GW, it may well be the case that in the EU only about six to eight percent of White adults really and truly believe that Jesus is God Incarnate. The figure for the US will, no doubt, be higher but will probably still constitute a minority of the total.

So I think your post was pretty much an accurate summation of the current status of Christianity.


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Posted by Election Summary on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:49 | #

Global warming concerns Brits, since Europe is Igloo-istan without the Gulf Stream.

Neoconservatives have assiduously sabotaged any domestic or international program/agreement to address global warming; they killed Kyoto (for the U.S.), and shut up internal dissent from leading US scientists, which is very, very suspicious. Typical example:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/01/D8L4NF5G1.html

Are neocons ignorant of science? Or is it their belief that in a world of natural havoc—droughts, rising sea level, collapsing food supplies, a potentially frozen-over northern Europe—that somehow this is good for Jews or plutocrats?


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Posted by Saturated Fats on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:55 | #

“BTW, Sat Fats—maybe try learning to read next time?”

BTW, Erasmus/Themistocles—maybe try learning to write in a concise manner next time?

“The Prof states outright that he’s opposed to exactly what you’re criticizing.”

Well, having written it, you’re in a better position to tease out the “meaning” in the torrent of verbose meanderings, but, for the rest of us, not inclined to bore ourselves to sleep, finding these nuances may be more troublesome.

“Though it might help to actually understand what’s being said first.”

Though it might help to actually write what you mean in a comment that wouldn’t rival “War and Peace” in length.


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Posted by Themistocles on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:20 | #

Sat Fats, since you seem to be too lazy to actually make a non-smartassed, halfway useful or informative point on this forum—let alone actually read a sentence out of what you’re carping at—here’s a wonderful suggestion: Just don’t bother reading things here at all.  The last thing a forum on a topic as important as this needs is a potshot-taking troll like yourself.  If you don’t have anything productive to say on here but asinine little juvenile fart-posts directed at others, then find a nice XXX site for yourself.  In fact, you sound an awful lot like those Anti- infiltrators from the opposition who come onto Blogs discussing a topic, just to waste everyone’s time, launch lame-assed ad hominems and generally stir up crap—in this case, opposed to WN ideals in general and sniping at people on here talking about relevant subjects, to which you contribute absolutely nothing of substance.  IOW a waste of perfectly precious oxygen molecules. 

Most people with an actual interest in the survival of White society would tend to go a tad above third-grade level smarmy-assed whines in their posts, which you seem unable to do.  Which is pretty obvious evidence that in fact you aren’t exactly someone who sympathizes with our side.  I’m sure there are plenty of Blogs run by the Black Panthers and Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam that might be more up your alley, though those guys would also tend to beat up smart-asses like you.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:28 | #

Election Summary,

No, the elite - neocon or otherwise - always retains a healthy fear for the people.  Their one nightmare is that some popular reistance which they do not control and which will not serve as a harmless safety valve might arise and sweep them away.

The dog, then must be given its bone and the baby its dummy.  Better that the beer continues to flow and the skittles drop than that they, the liars, the self-servers, have to be the ones who bring the curtain down.  For they would bring it down first upon themselves.


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Posted by Themistocles on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:29 | #

And on another note, two more excellent articles on the subtle undermining of White identity and society, by the always sharp Lawrence Auster:

http://amnation.com/vfr/archives/006524.html
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/005665.html

Food for thought.  We should make no mistake—there’s a war being waged against our people here, and we have to be cognizant of that.  We have to fight back.  It’s not (hopefully) a war involving bloodshed, but it does involve strengthening our consciousness as a people.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:32 | #

Even so, Themistocles, there are occasions when more is less.


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Posted by Themistocles on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:33 | #

“The dog, then must be given its bone and the baby its dummy.  Better that the beer continues to flow and the skittles drop than that they, the liars, the self-servers, have to be the ones who bring the curtain down.  For they would bring it down first upon themselves.”

Exactly.  So long as the bread lines the supermarkets and the TV circuses distract on the boob tube, this false prosperity will continue to distract White Americans from the disaster that’s creeping up and slowly demolishing us.  The most dangerous foe after all is the one that slowly sneaks up on you without your being aware, not the one that loudly announces its presence.  I halfway wonder if a nasty economic recession may be the only thing that wakes us up to the underlying roots of the current crisis, the way the elite culture of the country has been turned into a weapon against our very integrity.


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Posted by Themistocles on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:34 | #

“Even so, Themistocles, there are occasions when more is less”

Agreed.


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Posted by Themistocles on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:03 | #

One more link from the redoubtable Lawrence Auster, on the so-called “conservative” White-hating Mark Steyn, who is so characteristic of the corporate-sycophant sell-outs that now sadly rule the mainstream US conservative movement:

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/003483.html

Money quote:
“Knowing and caring only about the mantra of freedom and individual rights, today’s conservatives have no sense of a society that has its own value above and apart from the rights and desires of the individuals belonging to it. These conservatives turn their country—and themselves—into an abstraction, “individual rights,” and that abstraction then proceeds to dry up all the real qualities of the culture and people that gave birth to it.” ... “This is something that American “conservatives,” Dantons and Robespierres for universal democracy, cannot understand. “

Touche.  Well, I’ve got the weekend shift starting up in a few hours so I’m outta here.  Keep on fighting the good fight.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:30 | #

Larry Auster should read the cultural conservatives more.  His home is with Paul Gottfried, and I mean no disrespect to either.  I will take help from wherever it comes because the more of my brothers who set foot upon the path the better ... and the more that might learn to discriminate in their own interests, and come join us.


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Posted by unlimited power on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:55 | #

Election Summary,

Kyoto would have harmed the US economy while allowing devoloping places like China spew all the pollution they can. You should know if there’s anything Neocons are about it’s strong economic numbers, irregardless if theyr’re built on slave labor from browns. Of course, these myopic oligarchs might consider that all current prosperity is a result of white society, and that after we’re a minority… the “others” can only emulate our ways for so long before it comes crashing down. Or perhaps our masters think they will have AI by the time the shit hits the fan, and their machines can do all the traditionally white scientific innovations while the brown domesticated masses can till the oligarchs fields and pump their fuel.


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Posted by Saturated Fats on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:22 | #

“Sat Fats, since you seem to be too lazy…”

And, yet, you are too lazy to spell out the word ‘saturated’

“Even so, Themistocles, there are occasions when more is less.”

Which is, exactly, the point.

“Agreed.”

That’s a good start.  Well done!


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:28 | #

Love Africans.  You are going to get a lot more of them anyway.”

Riiiight.  A good thing they’ll be Moslems, too, so while we’re awaiting the completion of our race-replacement from white to Maghrebian we’ll be sure to get plenty of this good stuff along the way.  Yes, our élites have got everything figured out, haven’t they — sort of the way they had the Somme, Verdun, Baliclava, and Gallipoli figured out, World War I in 1914 all figured out, and Iraq in 2003 all figured out.  Yeah, they’re really bright, our élites ... Great at figuring things out ... We’d do well to listen to them .... They know what they’re doing .......

Riiiiiiiiight .........


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:27 | #

Themistocles, by the way, I enjoy your stuff considerably as do many here but if it’s true that you’re posting under a variety of pen names it might be easier for us to fully appreciate your views if you were to settle on just one name and stick with that.  With that said, I hope to see more of your comments.


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Posted by JB on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:07 | #

Matra:

This week you attack Christianity - the real religion of the West.

Matra:

So Western Christians have been egalitarians for the last millenium? Can you give examples of Western Christian self-hatred during the Middle Ages? So why did the Christians submit to liberalism only in the 20th century and not, say, the 16th? Why have Jews spent so much time and energy trying to undermine Christianity if it suits their purposes?


it seems obvious to me that if Christianity can be exported to all races and nations and that right now there’s probably more non-white christians than there are white christians that Christianity isn’t our real religion no matter how beautiful the cathedrals are and nor did it provide any serious protection against liberalism and nihilism when confronted against the forces of decay so I consider it to be compatible with our enemies. What kind of man is a white christian missionary converting bantus into believers ? We’re not solely souls just as equal as all the other souls proclaiming to believe in Jesus and our Kingdom isn’t in some other world.



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