Not all politicians are bad

Posted by Guessedworker on Tuesday, 14 April 2009 00:13.

... some retain the ability to surprise. 

John Redwood is a senior Conservative politician and former minister who is currently co-chairman of the party’s Policy Review Group on Economic Competitiveness.  His blog is here.  If you scroll right down the thread you will eventually get to the point of my post now, which is a terse 33-word statement from Redwood in the form of a reply to my, as usual, lengthy missive.

That’s all I need to know.  I’ve posted a (mercifully brief) sign-off to the interchange, but it’s yet to be moderated.

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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:45 | #

I’ve posted this to John Redwood’s blog.  I post it here because either it won’t get in there, or it’ll be heavily edited.
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“The biggest difference between us is that I recognise you need to work within the political system as it exists in order to achieve progress for the causes you believe in.”  (—Reply to Guessedworker)

Yes of course “you need to work within the political system as it exists,” but only in so far as that’s within the realm of the possible.  How far does the possibility extend when the Tory leader goes around saying there are too many white faces here and not enough non-white faces there, or some such ethnoracial attack on Brits within their own nation?  What, did a big financial contributor set the bounds of the positions Cameron was permitted to take, and was gradual race-replacement squarely in the center? 

Cui bono?  Who benefits?  Who, exactly?  Please, not the British people!  Don’t insult their intelligence! 

Can anything spell out more plainly that whites are to be phased out than what Cameron said?  How dare anyone address himself to Britain and say that! 

I’m a Yank but we have a stake in the mother country’s survival not as a “proposition nation” or whatever the lie is which the Tranzi overlords are fobbing off nowadays on the gullible, but a racial nation racially intact, sorry if those frank words offend the delicate-eyed but we didn’t start this.  The other side did, the side running things today and running them straight into the ground.  Yes we have a deep stake and we don’t like to see the ancestral race slated for extinction any more than we like the now-plain fact that ourselves are slated for the same fate, and we’re determined to resist both. 

And everyone reading this knows what race means so don’t DARE to pretend otherwise.  We’re beyond political correctness now, it’s gone beyond that, it’s beyond “hurt feelings,” beyond pretending you “don’t see,” beyond embarrassment, beyond endlessly giving ground before the endlessly insatiable cultural-marxist advance.  It’s beyond all that now:  you’re seeing the worst existential crisis of the West since the West began three thousand years ago, and this worse-than-nonsense, this insanity, this criminality has to end. 

If the Tories won’t end it the BNP will get the chance and it appears the Tories won’t end it.

Cameron cannot be forgiven, it’s as simple as that.  Politically by rights he ought to be dead meat.  He’s said things and taken positions that make him unfit to pretend even to be on the same side as patriots let alone their leader. 

The big contributors want race-replacement?  Well the people don’t.  Let bought-and-paid-for Cameron put THAT in his “I see too many white faces” pipe and smoke it!

At this stage, the better way to “work within the political system as it exists” (to quote the Reply) is by joining the BNP.


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Posted by Englishman or Jew? on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:23 | #

The overpowering impression of Redwood’s mug, atop his blog, is that of a Jew or part-Jew phenotype. Consider the ghoulish shadows beneath his eyes (common in and specific to Ashkenazi Jews), the thin fleshy face (versus broad, well-chiseled Aryan features), and that penetrating stare (versus blank look of blue-eyed cattle). You’re probably not writing to an Englishman.

Also consider his office. Jews occupy all economic power positions in the US government:

Benjamin Bernanke(Jewish) - Chairman, Federal Reserve System

Donald Kohn(Jewish) - Vice Chairman, Federal Reserve System

Stephen Friedman(Jewish) - Chairman, Board of Directors, Federal Reserve Bank of NY

Timothy Geithner(Jewish) - Secretary, U.S. Treasury Department

Lawrence Summers(Jewish) - Chairman, National Economic Council

Paul Volcker(Jewish) - Chairman, Economic Recovery Advisory Board

Jared Bernstein(Jewish) - Chief Economist and Economic Adviser, Vice President

Douglas Shulman(Jewish) - Commissioner, Internal Revenue Service(IRS)

Peter Orszag(Jewish) - Director, Office of Management and Budget(OMB)

Jon Leibowitz(Jewish) - Chairman, Federal Trade Commission(FTC)

Gary Gensler(Jewish) - Chairman, Commodity Futures Trading Commission(CFTC)

Mary Schapiro(Jewish) - Chairman, Securities and Exchange Commission(SEC)

Sheila Bair(Jewish) - Chairman, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation(FDIC)

Karen Mills(Jewish) - Administrator, Small Business Administration (SBA)

Christina Romer(Jewish husband) - Chairman, Council of Economic Advisers


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Posted by Englishman or Jew? on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:05 | #

The preceding comment was rashly given without reading links in the post. Forgiveness, please.

After reading of his bio as (1) a financier; (2) who has worked for N.M. Rothschild; (3) as executive director; (4) as policy head in Thatcher’s government; and (5) with the stereotypical Jewish nose in the shape of a ‘6’ (evident in the photo in the Seldon link) it is safe to assume he is a Jew.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:54 | #

Our friend of many names,

safe to assume he is a Jew

I’ve watched his career for twenty years and I don’t believe that for a second.  Beside which, you are missing the point.  Go back again and see what he actually wrote in those 33 words.


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Posted by Bill on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:46 | #

Like all the rest, Redwood is operating within the constraints of political correctness, which means he ain’t operating as a Conservative at all. 

To me, Redwood is a 9 till 5 career politician, Tebbit, Ken Clarke and the rest, same old, same old, they’ve been at it for years and are part of the furniture and have been living the good time for decades.  God! they are the problem.

They have all quafted the Kool Aid and ticked the right boxes, no politician should serve more than one term, any more and they become the problem.

I must hand it to you GW, jousting with these people takes stamina and faith, I wouldn’t waste a keystroke on them.

Where has Redwood and his ilk been these last eleven years?  Sheesh!

Until there is a root and branch purge of the whole system (not doable?) then nothing will change.

Who can blame them? (The Redwoods (and the Ted Kennedy’s.)  People continue to vote for them in their millions election after election, how can we stop this revolving door madness? 

I think it is being stopped for us, even the big boys can’t be bothered with it anymore - NWO.

Do you think party politics will become a thing of the past or is the system a too indispensable a tool for fooling the sheeple?


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:18 | #

Party politics is an opiate, Bill.  It will continue.  But it will do so vitiated of its content as the black and brown identity politics that are encouraged within the system are balanced by white ethno-politics outside it.  This movement of energy from inside to outside is the essence of political Inevitablism.  It is to be seen as a phase which will be completed by the BNP’s cooption into the system - in which case a new and violent movement will commence outside again - or by the BNP overturning the system completely and establishing a new nationalist hegemony.

jousting with these people takes stamina and faith

It isn’t adversarial in this case.  In his initial reply Redwood was an arms-length, by-the-book party animal.  At the close, in those 33 words, he said something very remarkable and very brave.  I hope, too, very deniable in case someone calls him on it, though this isn’t a good week to smear Tory MPs.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:05 | #

Daniel gets it, btw.  O’Brien, no less!

Redwood wrote, in reply to Daniel: “I do not agree with all his beliefs and views, as should be clear from the many things I have written on these topics.”  But “the many things” are as nothing - passing political values - beside the overwhelming and fundamental value of the continuity of Redwood’s own people.

This is the approaching dilemma for all of us.  We will all be forced to choose.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:39 | #

This man Redwood has zero potential for seeing things from our point of view.  Come back in a billion years and he’ll be hawking the exact same boilerplate.


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Posted by Englishman or Jew? on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:44 | #

Has anyone actually verified the man’s ancestral origins? Despite the surname’s superficially Anglo appearance, “redwood” looks very much like a foreign name anglicized, perhaps originally “Rothwald”...(Think rothstein, not Summer Redstone, Redshield not rothschild, etc.)


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:18 | #

If he is Jewish or part-Jewish why would he not simply condemn me for my “hate” and “racism”?  What would be the point of, in effect, discussing anything with a declared nationalist?


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Posted by Bill on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:31 | #

Just an aside to start with. This morning I composed and submitted (another) post on this thread only to be time expired (I think) I backspaced to retrieve my post and yes, you guessed it, the post had evaporated into the ether and was gone forever -  Grrrrr!!!  Tell me about it.

The second (replacement) post to such a disaster is never quite the same, it’s like the second cup of tea, it never tastes as good as the first.  Anyway to try again, my lost post went something like this.

The ascendancy of the reality blogosphere

The MSM political sites such as Redwood’s are struggling.  To me, they border on the irrelevant, the contrast between the MSM bubble sites and the real blogosphere is stark, in fact I can barely bring myself to bother reading them they are so steeped in Westminster pc bubble speak.  It really is a case of froth confronts reality.

In the wake of Youtube’s riot police assault innocent bye passer to Guido Faulkes toxic emails, sent by Downing Street thugs dissing Tory politicians, the reality blogosphere is leaving the MSM in its wake.  These days the MSM sites are seen to be playing catch-up to the reality blogs, the BBC must be spitting mad at the way they are left trailing in the dust of the reality blogger, ask poor Esler or puzzled Paxo, they get it alright.

So the Redwoods of this world and their websites are (because of the constraints demanded of them) are no match for the likes of MR, there is no way they can compete.  Whales on a stranded beach come to mind, choking in their own politically correct mud.

I’ve asked before, why don’t they just shut us down?

The beat goes on.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:08 | #

Loriver,

I agree he had that sentence in mind, plus this one:-

The awful and fateful choice you have made, as has almost every good man caught up in national politics, is to place career, public recognition and respectability above love, fidelity and self-respect.

He replied:-

Not so. The biggest difference between us is that I recognise you need to work within the political system as it exists in order to achieve progress for the causes you believe in.

Now, this is a reserved, highly intellectual public figure, and one who understands the value of words used and words not used.  He is saying that the fact that he works inside the system and I work outside it is a BIGGER difference than that between his and our other political conceptions and values.

He then goes on to say to Daniel:-

I do not agree with all his beliefs and views, as should be clear from the many things I have written on these topics.

So he is further confirming that there is something, at least, with which he agrees.

What I think he might be saying is that some vestiges of “love, fidelity and self-respect” live on.  If so, that is as close as you will get from any public figure, under the present constraints, to agreement that English ethnic survival surpasses all else in value, and must, in the end, win out.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:23 | #

This man has fully accepted that Britain is to become a mixed-race mulattoized country like North Africa.  He sees not a thing wrong.  Whatever he considers the points of agreement to be between himself and GW, they most definitely do not include opposition to the present race-replacement régime, a régimie which he, emphatically, does not oppose.  That’s the measure of this man.  As Lovirer I think said, above:  were that not so, he’d have joined the BNP by now.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:26 | #

As regards race-replacement there is no difference, zero, between the Republicans and Democrats over here or the Tories and Labour over there.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:27 | #

Bill,

Always remember to copy your comment before you hit the submit button.  As an ExpressionEngine user, we are stuck with this session timing issue, and we can’t extend the session further.

Why don’t they just shut us down?

Escaping steam is meant to relieve the pressure, not blow the lid off.  At the moment they see the internet as a release valve.  And why wouldn’t they?  After all, we are sitting in front of computer screens talking, talking, talking instead of getting out there and raising burning barricades or smashing windows in the City of London.

In other words, the Establishment thinks that everyone is like leftists whose big thing is numbers on the street and violent demonstrations.  Because we are qualitatively engaged - it is our arguments which have the power to overthrow the system - they think we are no threat.  They cannot understand that we have no use for direct action to influence liberal-minded politicians because we have no use for liberal-minded politicians!

When they realise that they have miscalculated they will likely attempt to control our language.  Canada will probably be the bellweather.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:32 | #

Were that not so, he’d have joined the BNP by now.

Oh Fred, if only you knew how desperately unappealing to an Establishment figure is the thought of a political life sentence in the BNP. Like swapping lunch in the Savoy Grill for a Big Mac consumed in a doorway on the Strand.


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Posted by Revolution Harry on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:31 | #

I apologise for being off topic but I saw these videos the other day and thought I’d bring them to the attention of you here. Having researched the subject in some depth I’m more than convinced that there is a conspiracy to create a world government. This is sometimes referred to as the ‘New World Order’. The conspiracy has other goals but there isn’t enough space to go into those here. Understanding a conspiracy exists is one thing; understanding its exact nature, in particular who or what is behind it, is another.

One of the consequences of the conspiracy is the very thing that concerns you here. That is the destruction of the nation state and the races that inhabit those nations. There is powerful evidence that far from this being a ‘Jewish’ conspiracy it is in fact a Jesuit or Catholic one. In short the Church of Rome is the ‘Church’ of Babylon relocated (witness the Egyptian obelisks within the Vatican and much more convincing evidence). The Jesuits control all the secret societies including high level Freemasonry and ‘chivalric’ orders such as ‘The Knights of Malta’. The ‘Jews’ as a whole are used as a convenient scapegoat; any ‘Jews’ involved in the conspiracy are actually members of the secret society network, in particular Freemasonry. For example, Rothschild is the Pope’s banker. The new Israeli supreme Court, funded by the Rothschilds, is clearly Masonic.

Apart from the specific agenda for global control, the desire is to destroy the white Protestant countries so they can never rise again and threaten the New World Order. Of course there’s much more to it than that but this is a simplified overview. For more information go to Phelps’ website. I don’t agree totally with all of what he says but I do think he has some very interesting evidence to consider.

Here’s a couple of sample videos that you might enjoy.

Eric Phelps PART VII - Averting the race war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LMt8azx6Bk

Eric Phelps PART VIII - Racial Manipulation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTfOVTWqzl8&feature=related


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Posted by danielj on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:14 | #

From the blog:

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And however the system may change, it seems increasingly unlikely to me that those minority interests will ever allow its fundamentally anti-democratic character to change, unless they are forced to allow that to happen through violence, or the serious threat of violence.

Once the country is comprised of a people that is “majority-minority” the fundamental inconsistency of this problem will be solved and all will again be “democratic” and just.

“Immigration” is Newspeak for “colonization.”


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Posted by danielj on Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:12 | #

That last comment didn’t make it through.



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