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Black Volunteers for US Military Service Plummets
Perhaps blacks are recognizing this government is about to self-destruct and are staying home to build multi-ethnic gangs in the midwest using young, mother-raised, white boys (and girls) to do their dirty work and be their public faces. After all, they’ll need cannon fodder when race wars break out. Comments:2
Posted by Tommy G on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:33 | # “Start buying firearms and ammunition now. Make them common calibers, 9mm, .223, 12 gauge, etc…You don’t have to spend big money for good, durable and reliable firearms. But that is another thread.”—by Anon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A pistol for the bedroom, 3
Posted by Slavyanski on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:44 | # ““Start buying firearms and ammunition now. Make them common calibers, 9mm, .223, 12 gauge, etc…You don’t have to spend big money for good, durable and reliable firearms. But that is another thread.”—by Anon”
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Posted by GT on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:22 | # Tourette’s tic: “Remember folks….I’m the CRAZY one here.” Yup! 5
Posted by Greg M on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:50 | # It’s good to see that blacks are not falling for the empty promises and outright lies of the U.S. military (imperialist forces). In fact, I think that black Americans, regardless of their educational levels, are collectively much more politically astute than white Americans are. They “know the real deal”, as the old saying goes. 6
Posted by 2R on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:53 | # Blacks never really liked the field very much in the Army. I remember before the war, the blacks telling me that there was no difference between GW Bush and Saddam Hussein and that they didn’t want to go to war. At that time, I was sort of a Neoconservative. Maybe not a NeoCon but I definitely wanted to go to war. Looking back, I’m glad I felt this way because going to war is hard enough but especially if you don’t want to be there. These same blacks told me that Bush killed innocent blacks in Texas, and that they didn’t want to fight for him. This was the good thing about being an Infantrymen. Very few blacks. But the ones who were there, never liked the field. Mestizo’s were better soldiers for sure. The blacks liked the Army before 9-11 when we had 4 day weekends all the time. So this doesn’t surprise me at all. After all, they’re raised in a society that teaches them “not to fight in a White man’s Army.” Judea-Con Max Boot thinks its a good idea to have foreigners “earn” their citizenship by serving in the military. This is a sure sign that you’re living in an empire. The elites don’t care who they get to fight their wars as long as its someone besides their kids doing the dying. These foreign soldiers will come in handy if any “civil unrest” occurs in the US. As many of you know, Bush got rid of Posse Comitatus [sic] so the active duty military can now be used in the Continental U.S. Its much easier to depend on Mexicans or Haitians to kill White “terrorists” when the power structure widens their “War on Terror” to a “War on Hate” once White men start opposing their displacement. 8
Posted by Robert Reis on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:14 | # Kim du Toit webpages have excellent articles about firearms. His essay qbout the Pussification of the American male is quite funny. 9
Posted by Slavyanski on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:06 | # Apparently GT is a little dense. We got people here recommending stocking up ammunition and weapons for some kind of ‘race war’(which was supposedly supposed to happen decades ago if we were to believe G.L. Rockwell), in response to an article about blacks not joining the army in large numbers- but I have Tourette’s. Sure. You people are very rational.
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Posted by Slavyanski on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:17 | # “After all, they’ll need cannon fodder when race wars break out.” My favorite quote from this rational, enlightened, entirely sane article. When are those ol’ race wars going to break out anyway? Weren’t they supposed to happen in the 60s? 70s? 80s? What’s keeping them so long? Maybe I just don’t understand because I’m “mentally unbalanced”, I have “Tourette’s”, and I’m not “awake”. 11
Posted by GT on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:53 | # Scipio - Rest assured, if “Slavyanski” and his ilk were to gain complete control of the West and disarm its population, they would not hesitate to reintroduce the old Bolshevik method of dealing with nationalists, patriots and dissidents alike: introduction to a lime pit via a bullet to the base of the skull! Slavyanksit - You deserve it. ——————————————- More of Slavyanksit’s Tourette tics: “Remember folks….I’m the CRAZY one here.” “Sure. You people are very rational.” “Doesn’t it suck how your views are incredibly unpopular even with your target demographic?” “Oh…but the JOOOOOOOOOZ are controlling them!” “NOOOO!!! It MUST be some kind of shadowy Jewish ‘race-replacement’ scheme” “Do you find that there isn’t a wealth of information/entertainment that appeals to white males these days? Have you ever heard of Fox News.” “If I might add something- why is it so important to have a white MALE on there?” “Is a white woman not worthy enough to represent her “race”?” “Apparently that’s not good enough for you, and now some are claiming that this is “separating” white men from women. Pathetic” “Now I’m too collectivist? I thought Marxism was about some kind of extreme individualism.” “Your sleep/awake analogy betrays a belief that you have some kind of esoteric knowledge or something. Rather cult-like.” “Guy in the movement lectures me about honour. Sure.” “These guys on here apparently hate their own women, because they don’t think they can represent their race. Repressed homosexuality perhaps?” “You sit around watching every advertisement and count how many whites, white males, white females with black males. Just who has the inferiority complex here.” “Personally I think you are afraid of females in general, and for some reason you are afraid of competing with blacks particularly.” “Christ- it is nice to NOT be obsessed with the racial make up of ADVERTISEMENTS.” “It is so free not to be imagining some smoky boardroom full of cackling Jews, saying “LET’S PUT THIS WHITE FEMALE IN THE AD WITH A BLACK MALE!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!” “Now you may go back to calling me mentally ill, alleging that I have an inferiority complex ..” “A lot of you people make the mistake of thinking that “appealing to white males” means appealing to you.” “What if you see white males in an ad, but in fact, without your knowledge, they are really JOOISH?! How diabolical!!!” “They do not “doubt the Holocaust”, they allege that the Holocaust is a hoax designed to harm or deceive the world for some reason- hence “incitement of hatred against groups”.” “Yeah, because whites dominate American societies- we don’t NEED a group to fight for ‘our interests’.” “White nations are not “pressured” to accept immigrants.” “So what, he’s an idiot. He is talking about eliminating the social concept of “whiteness”. I don’t want to be “white” either; I’m Irish and Ukrainian- I’m not a color.” “Of course non-whites CAN discriminate against whites(in fact there is a lot of discrimination within the “white” population in some places like Europe. The thing is that in America at least, non-whites are not in a position of power.” “Of course a bunch of guys in a movement that is famous for having virtually no women (and certainly no prominent women) MUST know more about feminism than a feminist herself.” “And of course posting some radical quotes by a few identity politics nutcases is representative of the feminist ideal in the first place.” “Appeal to nature fallacy.” “Oh no, please debate me, start by providing credible demographics to back up that 100 million claim ..” 12
Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:34 | # Anon writes: As it is, the hispanic gangs are kicking black ass in cities across the US and taking over historically black gang areas/criminal rackets. That’s why blacks are gravitating to what the linked article describes as “hybrid” gangs in the midwest. In the world of multiethnic organizations we do see blacks occupy high positions of authority far more often than their average IQ would predict. Look at the US government. 13
Posted by Anon on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:54 | # Slavyanski, 14
Posted by figures27 on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:47 | # The question is why the number of white volunteers not plumeting drastically. Could it be that blacks are smarter than whites ? As for the “race war” The communists could march out onto the streets of US millions of illegal aliens !... how many whites could you gather together ? When Kissinger made that “stupid, dumb animals” remark, he wasn’t being rude, he was just making an observation. 15
Posted by Anon on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:37 | # I can pretty much answer yes to some of your questions. I know a good number of white, experienced military men, some in my own family. You would also be surprised who lives down the street, down the hall or works with you. The questions about WW1,WW2 and Civil War are certainly open to discussion. But as I said, I am not concerned with what has happened, it cannot be undone, although debating about it is fun. But maybe we should just throw in the towel and give up now. 16
Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:47 | # figures27, I don’t expect there to be a race war—I expect there to be many race wars. Some if not most of these race wars will go under different names than “race” wars but they will happen. Here are the circumstances that have changed since the two great suicidal wars: 1) The “Civil War” was actually a war to abolish slavery—a violation of freedom of association. Slavery has taken a new form as Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Immigration and Nationalities Act of 1965—both violations of freedom of association targeting the enslavement of whites. 2) WW II was fought by men like my father who were deceived by centralized editorial influence on media. The Internet is changing that rather dramatically as seen in the disconnect between what is happening on the street with the Ron Paul campaign and the portrayal of the Ron Paul phenomenon by the old media. Whites genetically believe in freedom of association even if they can’t really articulate it. It’s why “fair” has a double meaning. This is why the first priority of those who are Holocaustian Supremacists is to portray white separatists as supremacists—its the only way they can get whites to kill other whites who seek merely to be left to their own territories. The conditions that used to get whites to kill other whites—slavery and lies from centralized media—have now completely changed. 17
Posted by John on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:48 | # To answer Greg, the real reason is the exact same problem they had in Vietnam where they exhausted the available pool of African-American recruits because when the Sargeants told them to “Get down!” they started dancing. Seriously though, is it really political astuteness (how many blacks can even spell the word)? It could be base survival instinct coupled with a lack of bravery or loyalty and a desire for the most comfort possible. I must admit, though, whites do have a blind spot where they are patriotic when it is no longer adaptive and defies all reason. I think this “phenomenon” has to do partly with language and reification—that English and other languages lack an abstraction level marker such that we are willing to fight for shit like freedom and democracy..It’s hard to believe that there are actually still people who cling to such threadbare concepts but a large minority of the US diaspora European population still does. Since the War of Northern Aggression (where “honor” had at least some attachment to the real world) it has progressively gotten worse. Frederick Mann’s allegory of the Two Tribes illustrates the power of what I call false substantives: Two Tribes The language of Tribe 2 (Language 2) is very different. A man who obtains his wherewithal mostly by fishing, is called “fisherman.” (This system of nomenclature would seem absurd to the people of Tribe 1—how can you call someone a “fisherman” when he is not fishing, but sleeping?) Language 2 contains many high-level abstractions—like “happiness.” People from Tribe 2 can talk for hours about “happiness.” (To someone from Tribe 1, this would be incomprehensible—they only talk about “woman-who-is-happy” while she is happy, and “woman-who-is-sad” while she is sad. The notion that you could separate “happiness” from a real person being happy, and talk about “happiness” as if it existed by itself, would be completely unthinkable to someone from Tribe 1.) To the people from Tribe 2, any word being used is automatically assumed to be part of existence, otherwise people wouldn’t use it. (To someone from Tribe 1, the word “existence” would be a meaningless absurdity, because in their mentality only particular objects exist.) In Tribe 2, the test for reality is agreement. If other people agree with a word and the way it seems to be used, then that word is automatically accepted as valid and useful. One day a strange man arrives at the place where the people of Tribe 1 live. They ask him: “Who you?” He: “I King.” They: “Your name King?” He: “No; my name John.” They: “Why call self King if name John?” He: “I special person, agent of God.” They: “You look different but not special; who God?” He: “God creator of world.” They: “Where God?; How create world?” He: “God everywhere; God all-powerful.” They: “How we see God?” He: “Can’t see God.” They: “You speak crazy.” He: “No; I special; I show you.” Whereupon the stranger performs various tricks like apparently making objects appear and disappear. They: “You clever man-who-tricks.” He: “I special; I King.” They: “You speak funny; you clever John-who-tricks.” He: “I King; my word law.” They: “What law?—special word?” He: “Yes; my word law—you must obey.” They: “Ah! You mean order-word!” He: “Yes; I King; I make law.” They: “No; you speak order-word?” He: “Yes; I special.” They: “What special?—Anybody speak order-word?” He: “You not understand.” They: “No.” Eventually John-the-stranger gives up trying to convince the people of Tribe 1 that he has a “special status” and that his words are different from the words of anyone else—so he leaves, to search for more gullible and impressionable victims elsewhere… For many days and nights he trudges through the jungle before discovering the people of Tribe 2. They: “Who you?” He: “I King.” They: “Your name King?” He: “No, my name John.” They: “Why call self King if name John?” He: “I special person, agent of God.” They: “You look different; what God?” He: “God creator of world.” They: Where God?; How create world?” He “God everywhere; God all-powerful.” They: “Show special?” Whereupon the stranger performs various tricks like apparently making objects appear and disappear. They: “You King, agent of God.” He: “Yes, my word law.” They: “What law?” He: “Law special word of God through me; you must obey.” Whereupon the people of Tribe 2 bow down and kiss the feet of John—they do not habitually test abstractions against reality, so they readily accept John-the-stranger as their “King” and his word as “law.” Thereafter all he has to do to subjugate, control, and dominate them, is open his mouth… “Language creates spooks that get into our heads and hypnotize us.” “It is hard to fight an enemy who has outposts in your head.” “The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.” The people from Tribe 1 reject the Slavespeak words of John the would-be-terrocrat—making them impossible to subjugate, control, and dominate. To them the terrocrat is merely a clever liar and trickster. The Tribe 2 people accept John’s word “King” to describe himself. They believe that “King” John has special powers because of the tricks he performs and because of his connection to “God.” By accepting John’s terrocrat words they automatically place him in a superior position and themselves in inferior positions. Just by accepting, believing, and using the terrocrat word “King,” they yield their power to the terrocrat—they subjugate themselves. It’s worth emphasizing that just by accepting the concepts/words of the would-be tyrant, you place yourself at a huge disadvantage. By doing so, you relinquish your power, enabling the would-be tyrant to become an actual tyrant. Instead of laughing at his silly notions, you’ll probably end up begging him to “change the law” so you can be free. And guess who has the last laugh! 19
Posted by nat23ion on Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:31 | # Defetism ?! What is the great white hope action plan ? Where is it being carried out ?
misguided ww2 americans ?! no ! dumb idiots, and most of them went to their graves believing they fought on the right side. Whoever is left of ww2 british/american bombers, they are huffing and puffing if someone dares to mention that all they did is incinerate women and children in large cities
People could have supported Howard Phillips, Michael Peroutka; just as they could have supported for Peter Cooper, Jennings Bryan, August Lindbergh, Robert LaFollette…. What difference did the millions of pamphlets and books make ? How many people pay money to watch gladiator shows ? How many are joining the great white liberation war ? 20
Posted by Greg M on Sat, 13 Oct 2007 03:14 | # John, I just read your response to my comment. I don’t think that all blacks are as politically ignorant- and cowardly and lazy as white nationalists (and other conservatives) may think. A good number of blacks have come to the conclusion that this nation and its political system do not represent their best interests. Therefore many of them are no longer interested in joining the military (no matter how good or enticing the benefits may be for them.) And whites can certainly be just as cowardly and lazy. For instance: How many obese whites are there in North America these days? Millions. Blacks don’t have a monopoly on laziness. American anti-culture, with its emphasis on comfort and the pursuit of pleasure above all else, has produced millions of lazy, ignorant and cowardly people (of every color). Of course, the fact that much of our American “proletarian” class no longer even does much actual productive labor(many now find themselves in horrible low wage “service industry”/customer service type jobs) has obviously contributed to this epidemic of laziness and hedonism. When there’s no hope on the horizon- and only the illusionary ladders of a capitalist economy to climb- the people on the bottom will abandon hope and become shiftless, lazy, mean, irresponsible, etc. Can you blame them? 21
Posted by snax on Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:33 | # 2R -
I was looking to find comments following JB’s interview of Drew Fraser where Posse Comitatus was discussed extensively, and this was the best match I found. But it’s a prescient comment from 2R there, especially if we widen the target to “War on Angry Victims of Economic Collapse.”
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Posted by Anon on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:12 | #
Good news and bad news really. Less negroes in the military means less, stupididy, less TNB, less insubordination, etc…Unfortunately these negroes now seem free to organize some sort of urban gang/terror force. But they seem to be intent on killing each other, at least for now(good news as well).
Mr. Bowery, do you think that these blacks be an organized force that poses a threat in a major way? I have not seen any evidence that Africans to be as organized as say the hispanics. As it is, the hispanic gangs are kicking black ass in cities across the US and taking over historically black gang areas/criminal rackets. I am not mitigating the crime that these blacks have been responsible for and will doubtless continue to be responsible for in the future against whites. But I just do not see them as organized, more like spontaneous animal outbursts. They also have a tendency to burn their own neighborhoods. They could have marched to Beverly Hills during the LA riots and there was nobody, not a single squad car to stop them. Very dangerous, but not well organized. Of course, whites should arm themselves as quickly and as heavily as possible because well, if the blacks do go ape in your area, it will be just like a war, Yugoslavia-like, but localized. I do not seem them able to coordinate a mass revolt in an organized manner.
Another silver lining. All these militarily trained whites will be great teachers for the white populace when racial strife comes, especially the Special Forces types. One of their jobs is to teach the people how to use weapons and fight. We will need them.
Start buying firearms and ammunition now. Make them common calibers, 9mm, .223, 12 gauge, etc…You don’t have to spend big money for good, durable and reliable firearms. But that is another thread.