Cochran on the genetic history of Jews, Aryans et al.

Posted by DanielS on Monday, 11 June 2018 23:02.

(((Luke Ford))) interviews Greg Cochran, who, among other genetic history, goes into interesting hypotheses about the origin of the Ashkenazi - some 900 years ago (only) a Jew wandering through northern Italy had a child with an Italian woman (Ashkenazi DNA is primarily European on the mtDNA side) and his descendants subsequently accumulated into a community in the Rhineland - that community was the origin of the Ashkenazi.


(((James Miller))), hosting a podcast called “The Future Strategist”, interviews Cochran largely on the matter of European pre-history, markedly about the Aryans.

This amounts to reasonable hypotheses inferring the otherwise obscure and obscured history of the White/European race using the latest findings in genetic research.



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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:27 | #

Cochran inadvertently calls attention to an interesting possible criticism of the Nazi perspective.

While the metaphor of the biological Jew as “parasitic” for its evolution among others through its necessity to move into middle man and professional niches holds up to a large extent, it can be over extended as a metaphor to the point of scientism.

Do we need to be in a separate governance from Jewry? No doubt. But is it because they are strictly, always and only parasites? Not necessarily. You’ll find many competent, practical Jews, who can belie that stereotype.

On the other hand, Cochran makes some interesting inferences about the Aryans, who the Nazis fancied themselves the torch-bearers of.

While Himmler et al. lauded the virtue of farmers, those who build from the ground-up and the culture according as honest brokers in way of life, the history of the Aryans was apparently one of a species of foragers extended to a nomadic culture, which then permutated to a culture which invaded the European farmers, plundered their villages and murdered/ forcibly interbred with their inhabitants.

And actually, that sounds more like the Nazis program in practice; the question then, is that “Aryan” culture a whole lot better - less parasitic even - than the parasitism they denounce in Jewry?


Then again, where Cochran suggests that Jewry should take over Italy (because it is “easy to do” based on their record in WWII) instead of being Zionists, and inhabiting that barren and unappealing land in the Middle East, I need to muster the largest NO THANKS! that I can to that suggestion.


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Posted by Bond James on Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:41 | #

The second link doesn’t seem to be working.


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Posted by DanielS on Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:59 | #

Thanks Bond James: The link is fixed now above and here it is again.


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Posted by Yikes on Tue, 26 Jun 2018 16:27 | #

The Jews have a new scam:

“Journalist Max Wallace writes that a hushed-up pact between Heinrich Himmler and his sworn enemies prompted the SS chief to destroy the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”

http://www.timesofisrael.com/new-book-claims-a-secret-deal-between-nazis-and-allies-cut-the-holocaust-short/


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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 27 Jun 2018 03:27 | #

Yikes, are you trying to associate Majorityrights with “holocaust denial”?

We don’t even need the topic here. 

If Alison Chabloz, for example, had listened to the advice of Dr. Lindtner here and here, she would have been traveling a safer and more critically defensible position, she would not become a victim of Faurisson’s deception, as Dr. Lindtner would say, in focusing on disputes about gas chambers at Auschwitz, taking them to a non-sequitur in denial of Operation Reinhard - which is sufficiently documented.

To be critical of “holocaustianity”, as Lintner says, raising the lives and deaths of Jews in sacrosanct importance above those of others, is a more defensible position; to focus on reasons for the degree of rancor toward Jews and to be critical of collective punishment of later generations of Whites, is more relevant and defensible.

I disagree with the likes of Richard Edmonds, who says that it’s being overturned as a “myth” is a key to our defense - I don’t believe that angle is a key to anything but associating ourselves with some of the more dubious and dangerous tactics of the Nazis themselves - and yes, I do use the word “Nazi” so as not to associate nationalism, the Germans or even socialism with that regime.

I’ve had an open invitation to Germans for years, share in my strength as I feel no guilt what so ever. I understand how the documentaries and so on can instill guilt in young people, as it did in me as a younger person, but I was able to put any guilt aside, so you can too.

I offer my furtive perspective, because it is probably harder for Germans, including German Americans to have that perspective with it sitting directly on top of them - they would have a more direct and acute sense of the need to throw it off - but whether aspects of the H are true or not, you didn’t do it; and there are reasons why prior generations acted the way they did - if they went over the top, past nationalism into imperialist supremacism and ran into problems because of that, it can be learned from - better by taking the critical route, not the route of denial, dishonesty and natural fallacy.


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Posted by Robert Stark on Tue, 07 Aug 2018 00:56 | #

Do you know about the genetic origins of (((blondes)))? From Italy or more from German or Slavic admixture.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_lwSQcIWVs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg56XV1FiKA


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Posted by Ragnhild on Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:32 | #

- don’t know exactly when and where they hijacked blond genes;
but there is an extensive discussion of the evolution of blond hair and blue eyes


at Majorityrights here.


I see Ruth, a.k.a., “The Truth Will Live”, in the montage of supposedly blond Jews.

Is she really a blond?

...her hair-roots are pretty brown:

The lies will try to live, but they’re not White, they’re Jewish.


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Posted by Robert Stark on Wed, 08 Aug 2018 01:48 | #

The appeal of (((blondes))) is one of the primary reasons I soften my stance on the JQ. Hard to get a date with a (((blonde))) when you have an online reputation as an anti-semite. But yeah there is some subversive (((elite))) influence.


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Posted by Robert Stark on Wed, 08 Aug 2018 01:51 | #

And I have nothing against this site really and respect Daniel’s work at VOR. Daniel, please feel free to send me an email.


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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 08 Aug 2018 19:05 | #

Robert Stark: But yeah there is some subversive (((elite))) influence.


DanielS:
There is not only some subversive (((elite))) influence, (((they))) have strategically important elite niche occupation; but moreover, (((their genetic pattern on the whole))) is subversive to White interests and necessitates the pursuit by Whites of separate governance from Jewry, recognizing them as a discretely different people, with different and conflicting interests to Whites.


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Posted by Captainchaos on Wed, 08 Aug 2018 21:02 | #

Nothing wrong with allowing a Jewess to suck your cock on the condition that [                  ].


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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 08 Aug 2018 22:50 | #

Captainchaos, especially because you have to know better, you need to stop saying shit that puts the site and surrounding people at risk.

Furthermore, what is this?

Captainchaos
8 August 2018 at 4:55 pm

Tan, what is your opinion of Vox Day? He seems to be about as close to a “good mongrel” as we shall ever find.

You don’t even need to read to have sense enough for the obvious that this guy is a YKW tool, controlled opposition pushing the Abrahamic yoke.


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Posted by Finnish Bolshevik on Thu, 23 Aug 2018 08:48 | #

This discussion helps sort-out differences between “National Socialist” Germany and Marxist ideas of socialism.

It is not true, however, that the definition that The Finnish Bolshevik adopts is absolutely definitive of socialism and purely distinct from other systems.

There is no escaping some amount of socialism in any system.

The Finnish Bolshevik’s definition certainly does not articulate White Left Ehno-Nationalism.

White Left Ehno-Nationalism would not abolish private property and enterprise nor disparities in wealth; and yet national enterprise, public space, some shared economic leverage, concern for the common good of the social group and its systemic interrelations would be integral.


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Posted by Anti-White Politics is anti-Revolutionary on Thu, 23 Aug 2018 23:14 | #

Anti-White Politics is anti-Revolutionary Nonsense by Marxist Jason Unruhe


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Posted by The origin of blonde Jews on Thu, 06 Sep 2018 07:46 | #

Posted by Robert Stark on Tue, 07 Aug 2018 01:56 | #

Do you know about the genetic origins of (((blondes)))? From Italy or more from German or Slavic admixture.

        The origin of blonde Jews

        (((Lara Loomers))) drunk, tries ot seduce ‘Aryan man’

Loomers: Your eyes look so good, you’re like beautiful.

Aryan man: Thank you.

Loomers: You’re like an Aryan degenerate goddess. I love it.

Aryan man: Thank you. Thank you - you’re Aryan too.

(((Loomers))): I know, but I’m Jewish.

Aryan man: That’s ok.

Loomers: The Nazis hate me. The Alt-Right people want to put me in a gas-chamber.

Aryan man: That’s fine.

Loomers: The Alt-Right people want to put me in a gas-chamber because they’re obsessed with the ‘Joooooz.’

Ayran man: I think they’re just ‘meming’ on you, but it’s ok.

Loomers: They’re just jealous because I have big tits and an Ashkanazi I.Q.

Ayran man: Yes, that’s what it is. You got it.

Loomers: I’m going to tell you a secret. Do you know so many people in this movement who preach ‘trad-life’ are like fucking people on the side; and like cheating on their partners.

Aryan man: That’s so bad.

Loomers: Like, they’re not even really ‘trad-life’


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Posted by NorvinNot on Mon, 21 Jan 2019 02:02 | #

I put up a live discussion between Norvin Hobbs and Tanstaafl, figuring that they’d have some intelligent things to say, then I fell asleep not long after it began…

I listened to it again upon waking and..

while it is true that they had some intelligent things to say, they were also quite stupid in their lack of tact.

Disavow.

..........

With regard to Jewish antagonism and how to deal with it, there is only one policy that can be legitimately promoted - separatism from them and sovereignty as separate people.

Then, of course, if that sovereignty is violated, you can argue that you have the right to defend yourself.

But until the course of separatism and the reasons for it are sufficiently promulgated and understood - and this policy is under way in implementation - it is not time to talk about measures in self defense.

You may argue that they are not going to allow for separatism and sovereignty, but especially as the need and legitimacy of separatism is not understood by enough people it needs to be made more clear and first steps taken in that direction; certainly before bringing the wrath upon ethnonationalism for the declaration of (what would be justifiably understood by them as) nefarious intent prior to establishing our own willingness to abide by rules of national co-existence and symbiosis.

....



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