Correcting Molyneux and Parrott on the place of objectivity, Whites and the necessary source of war

Posted by DanielS on Wednesday, 05 June 2019 06:00.

Over valuation of objectivity and its attendant rational blindness.

Stefan Molyneux@StefanMolyneux: If you promote multiculturalism

Without promoting objective rationality

You set the stage

For civil war

@MatthewParrott: “Objectivity” is just a euphemism for what smart white males generally agree on. It doesn’t exist where we don’t exist, and is not somehow integral to the universe or something. You’re arguing for white supremacy.

@StefanMolyneux Replying to @MatthewParrott @contrastatist: Hahaha

@daniel.sienkiewicz (Majorityrights): I don’t quite agree with Matt either. While the quest for objectivity, valuation of impartiality for the solid warrant of findings based on tests irrespective of prejudice and aversion does not really exist apart from people (and their interests, thus it does not exist purely) and Whites are evolved to value it more than others (evolved more to take on Augustinian, i.e., natural, non-human challenges), and it does yield science and tech marvels, the power that goes along with it, it is a predilection that leaves us somewhat naive for the rational blindness it requires, thus susceptible to systemic dissolution (not necessarily superior then), as the quest of objectivity is virtually the opposite of prejudice against peoples and aversion (to creatures, things, physical, systemic consequences) - to people who perhaps warrant prejudicial treatment; creatures, things, physical and systemic consequences that may warrant aversion.

If objectivity is part and parcel of White supremacy as it is according to Matt, he might observe that it is also part and parcel of White degeneracy and systemic dissolution.

White supremacy is certainly not an objective claim. But to be at our best and reconstruct our social systemic homeostasis against those groups more unabashedly self interested (evolved more in conflict with other peoples rather than nature), thus willing to take advantage of us, as e.g., Africans might, to the point of manichean trickery even, as e.g., Muslims and YKW might, Whites must sufficiently overcome this prejudice against prejudice. That, in order to be accountable to our own group, human ecology, which will allow us in turn to coordinate accountability with other groups, e.g. African and Middle Eastern, and pervasive ecology.

Rather, quest for objectivity is virtually the opposite of prejudice - it is prejudice against prejudice. Quest for objectivity - pure warrants above or within nature, below human nature - is virtually the opposite of social accountability, a “that’s-just-the-way-it-isness” as such, which paves the way for war.

Objectivity is a tool the findings of which are to provide feedback to be gauged against the calibration of our relative interests as a group system and that of other group systems and systems broadly.

Comments:

Posted by Matt hears "F-Me!" on Wed, 05 Jun 2019 16:32 | #

It further illustrates the superiority of nationalism over communitarianism - it can be all too small a unit of social group, an (in)breeding ground for big, skewed egos, weird people, poisonous gossip and nasty, low level antagonism, as people don’t have room to grow.

Posted by DanielSMR on Wed, 05 Jun 2019 17:23 | #

Well, Youtube terminated the DanielSMR account, and now I am even more sorry that I put off overcoming whatever it was that was preventing me from uploading them to Majorityrights… fortunately, I posted the text/scripts that go with the videos on Majorityrights and the text of these “videos” was 99% of the gist…but, audio visual helped to get the material out to more audience.

Coincidentally or not, it happened after Matt Parrott’s feathers were ruffled by me again in a thread contesting Molyneux’s position…

I don’t know who filed the complaint but Matt did contact the SPLC after people teased him for the incident between Heimbach and his X… so, I would not put it past him.

Posted by mancinblack on Wed, 05 Jun 2019 23:11 | #

YouTube bans videos

Alleging that a group is superior in order to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion based on qualities like age, gender, race, caste, religion, sexual orientation or veteran status

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jun/05/youtube-bans-videos-promoting-nazi-ideology

Posted by DanielS on Thu, 06 Jun 2019 06:00 | #

Alleging that a group is superior in order to justify

I don’t exactly do that.

I am anti-supremacist and exploitation.

I don’t allege, I hold the working hypothesis that it is moral to maintain human ecologies and necessary to consciously maintain them; otherwise the corrections that can come about as a result of the runaway from wholly unnatural and toxic prejudice against prejudice are predictably catastrophic, not only for human ecologies, but for pervasive ecology.

As such,

discrimination, segregation or exclusion based on qualities like age, gender, race, caste, religion, sexual orientation or veteran status

i.e. social classifications such as these are necessary to maintain in order to facilitate accountability to human ecologies and their coordination (“peaceful co-existence”).

The Cartesian disruption of these social classifications, the prejudice against prejudice, is not innocent, it is hurting and it is killing people. ..and it has devastating impact on pervasive ecology.

I might propose that the YKW are most guilty of promoting this disruption of human ecology in the form of anti-racism (while shielding their own, under the guise of religion), but it is only true.

But I would also propose that White right wingers and liberals are particularly prone to abide by low-account, Cartesian objectivism to catastrophic ends.

White “objectivity” has positives and negatives. On the positive side it is an expression of a long time horizon and facilitates our many scientific and technological accomplishments. On the negative side, it coddles the naive and the disingenuous in our ranks in avoidance of accountability (again, social group discrimination and with it, social accountability, are veritably the opposite of objectivity), so that with our delayed response, the reactions and corrections to runaway can be catastrophic of themselves - including in terms of violence.

So, I do not argue that we are “superior” - not across the board, anyway.

In fact, I’m always quick to warn Whites off the idea that we are “superior”, for example, to blacks: a people with a much longer evolution than ours are likely to have some profound advantages (“superiorities”) and niche evolution that may not be recognized and sufficiently respected by quantitative comparisons like I.Q. tests - narcissistic comparisons that can be vain, lead one to hubris and being made a fool of, if not to dissolution ..e.g., hey, that black has a decent I.Q., he’s ok for my daughter/has a low I.Q., harmless, charmless to my daughter…and these narcissistic comparisons can lead to utter destruction, as in, “they have low I.Q., not very harmful.”

We may be less prone to day to day violence and sexual aggression than blacks, which along with other patterns of theirs, are detrimental to our human ecology, but “superiority” is not the point or the objective, protecting human ecology is.

I made something of a mistake recently in talking to Norvin and Patrick, because these young fellas are still in right wing reaction and prone to “Fed Post”, as the kids like to say. I was trying to bring them around to the left ethnonationalist position that I espouse, to get them thinking systemically, not merely reacting to the YKW, to the point where they may neglect what is the point, that our social systemic homeostasis needs reconstructing and all facets need attending, including YKW antagonism, but not only…

And that once systemic autonomy (homeostasis) is achieved, we have solid grounds as people who only want to defend ourselves, but who will coordinate with other peoples in anti-imperialism, anti-supremacism, anti-exploitation and pro-pervasive ecology.

Once autonomy and coordination (peaceful co existence) has been established as our goal, then we might defend ourselves if other groups, whomever, will not respect that.

In the process of trying to bring these young fellas along, however, I was involving myself with those prone to some foolish right wing foibles and “fed posting.”

I probably should have listened to you (mancinblack) and just stayed away, but I have too much sympathy for them in their tortured circumstance. I don’t believe they are bad people, they are intelligent people, who are in pain, justified anger, but still more reactive than systemic in their world view.

Nevertheless, we are anti-supremacist and I began helping these younger fellas to come around - so, talking to them was not ill motivated, nor necessarily a mistake or a bad deed.

Be that as it may, these talks with American right wing kids was probably just an excuse for anti-Whites - I believe they needed an excuse to further bury the concept of White Left Ethnonationalism that I recorded and uploaded to DanielSMR, as it is a means for power and influence - not for bad ends (in fact necessary for coherence, accountability, agency, warrant and human ecology) - but for power and influence, the same reason that Matt Parrott Bureaucrat doesn’t want it promoted, he sees it stepping on his bureaucratic, Abrahamic toes.

Posted by Immigration status added to hate speech on Thu, 06 Jun 2019 14:35 | #

Edwin@edwin_IBOE
5h5 hours ago

YouTube added ‘Immigration Status’ to their “Hate Speech” policy. In other words, @YouTube is banning speech critical of illegal immigration

What is the common denominator? They are all social classifications which are prohibited to be conceptually rendered and discriminated against - worse, the very process of argumentation in order to properly sort out and establish why it might be warranted to designate and discriminate against social groups is prohibited.

Whites must develop their own Youtube.

Posted by DanielS on Sat, 08 Jun 2019 13:21 | #

Aah,

I see that I did save my youtube posted stuff on my own hard drive, I’d forgotten about that.

I hope that I saved all of it, still checking…

Yep, I have all of the videos that were on DanielSMR Youtube; just have to upload them to Majorityrights and Bitchute