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How to save the world without harming a single hair on anyone’s head By Diamed As a moral principle, it is fatuous to say nothing can be done if it means having to hurt someone. This objection is ridiculous - when the benefit outweighs the cost there is no reason not to hurt someone. That’s the way the world works right now. However, potential racists, especially women, may find this moral hold-up simply overpowering. They would like things to be different, they would like everything we promise, but they’d rather all lay down and die … they’d rather close their eyes and wish all their worries away, than harm a single other person. As a thought experiment, couldn’t we at least try to soothe these people and coddle their ridiculously oversensitive moral compasses? If we could save the whole world without harming a single person, surely then they would start helping us and join in the salvation and survival of our own people? The people who are largely their friends, lovers, fellow-believers at church, classmates, family, and the progenitors of their culture? Even in this soon-to-be-majority minority America, whites will mostly stick to themselves, and de facto segregation is present everywhere. Whites want what we have to offer. They guiltily indulge in the joys of monoracialism and monoculturalism, keeping it secret from everyone how comfortable and happy they feel in the company of their own. Overly effeminate, or simply raised with the ridiculous squeamishness of the modern world, their objection isn’t our ends but our means. For those of us who realize the ends justify the means, this is just nonsense. For those who don’t, it is a brick wall they cannot cross. Let’s take this in context. As we speak, 40,000 Americans die each year to car accidents. Americans as a collective have agreed that the death of 40,000 Americans, many of them children or teenagers just starting the brightness of their lives, are worth sacrificing each year to the convenience of being able to drive everywhere.
The economy would be hampered without trucks and cars carrying large loads to places quickly, and each year, therefore, we sacrifice 40,000 virgins to the dark car god in the sky. Whether people consciously or unconsciously decide their deaths are “worth it”, their blood is on our hands. Under a different social system not a single one of them would have to die. We could have required only public transportation with much higher safety margins, or torn down all our cities and lived in villages where everywhere can be reached on foot, etc. Instead we cavalierly declared there were plenty of people to spare and let them die, so you and I are able to drive to work, to the girlfriend’s, to the bar, to the grocery store. Infants, who themselves never chose to be driving anywhere, are dying in car wrecks, wholly innocent and undeserving of death, victims of parents dragging them into the car and locking them into baby seats from which they cannot escape, and an uncaring public who does nothing to protect them! Therefore, let’s not take people’s compassion and chivalry too seriously. They’re perfectly willing to see people die, so long as it cannot directly be traced back to their decision. The collectivization of risk Americans create on the roads makes them feel unresponsible for these 40,000 deaths each year, and yet the people are still dead. I honestly believe that if an inner racist circle went around killing 40,000 people a year and then listing in the obituary “death by car accident” in order to create a racist society and achieve our goals, the rest of society would gladly accept the state of their country and be absolutely happy with the way things were. Re-list those people as “liquidated as enemies of the state” and they would go on riots about how horrible things were. “What’s important is the principle of the thing,” etc. No, what’s important to them is that they feel good about themselves. They are good, decent, honourable people who would never hurt anyone, and need everyone else to know this. So no, I don’t take their conscientious objections seriously. I don’t see anyone campaigning to stop car traffic on our streets, I don’t see any conscientious objectors refusing to drive because ‘miles are murder.’ Just a lot of self-righteous egoists. To these self-righteous egoists, I say … (okay beginning super-sacharine mode) … welcome aboard! There’s nothing to fear here! We have a Plan that will take care of everyone and leave everyone happy. You see, it’s simple. White countries pay a handsome annual sum to legal immigrants and return them to their native lands. The money will make them welcome guests of their host country. Illegal immigrants will be deported. A mixed-race and diversity loving multicultural hippy-land will be given territory and formal independence, a new Swaziland as it were. We will carve it out of our own countries, out of sheer generosity, and hand it over, infrastructure intact, debt free, free of charge. Politely but firmly, all those who simply wouldn’t feel at home in a racist society will be moved to their new homeland. There they can have whatever laws, whatever religions, whatever immigration policies they want. Children born into our racist societies who cannot stand our way of doing things and wish to rebel and embrace their human race brothers, are more than welcome to move to their respective Swazilands as well. And children stuck in Swaziland of pure race and good credentials, can also leave their parents and rejoin Racism-land. This way no one anywhere is hurt, everyone gets exactly what they want in life. Freedom for all, peace, joy, love, the whole works.
Since most of the immigrants came to our lands to seek money so they could feed their families etc, they should have no objections to having that same money in their own countries, where they feel more at home anyway. After all, subjecting foreigners to constant racism all the time we are told absolutely ruins their lives. In their own country, surrounded by people who know and love them and understand their feelings and language, all that can be restored to its natural state. This way, they’ll just have money too. They’ll be the local princes and benefactors of their city block. Furthermore, the destabilizing drug wars that wrack South America and Central Asia will be gone because, thankfully, Racism-land will patrol its borders and not allow any further drugs or drug use in their borders. The market will crash, and all those mean thugs who terrorize your countries will be out of a job. They’ll have to pick up the car or garment industry and leave your lands in peace. This not only helps out the Third World, but now the vulnerable children of Racism-land can breathe easy. No longer will a constant supply of drugs and an open cultural pushing of drug use tempt them into addiction and self-destruction. We offer them a much more wholesome life, with much higher ends that can occupy their boredom, depression, and ennui. We will have stable homes with good role models that make drug use sound as silly as it really is. Tens of thousands of lives a year will be saved both in Racism-land and the Third World by this change alone. It’s a wonder what controlled borders can do for you. Where will we get this money you ask? Well I’m glad you asked. The Plan has taken care of everything Initially, it will be simple. We will go into debt, as massive as it takes, even if it means half our pay-checks for generations, for the great blessing of our ensured survival, peace, and prosperity of the future. With the knife off of our throats and the jackboot off of our heads, currently angry-white-males will be much more generous and caring than you ever imagined. We can even be friends, albeit pen-pals. However, something miraculous will occur that will make the money almost generate itself. You see, without all those billions spent on health care, education, higher housing prices, strained water and electricity costs, an imperialist foreign policy interfering with the inner workings of other countries, crime, law enforcement, drug use, alcoholism … well, you get the idea. It will turn out that money we never knew we had will be sprouting up everywhere. We will be saving trillions a year on the high costs diversity led us into. Affirmative action alone being gone, and merit actually getting the positions they deserve, truly the possibilities are endless. And we will pass all these savings off to the generous immigrants who left our shores. Rather than greedily hogging these wonderful benefits immigrants gave us by leaving, we will pass all these profits back to those who deserve it, the kind and understanding non-whites and mixed-whites and diversity-lovers who all moved back to Mexico or joined the socialist utopia Swazilands. And we whites, we don’t even need a thank you. We’ve been poor before, much poorer than half our pay-checks, and we were still happy then because we had each other. And when love is in the air, the rest can take care of itself. You know? This isn’t all though. If you sign up for the Plan (tm) today, we will throw in a “Third-World Revitalization Project” that will not only make your transitions back to your countries and new swazilands safe and affordable, but will actually change the entire world for the better and lift all boats. Here is how it will go. Incredibly bright and caring whites will be paid to go into your countries and start translating our wisdom and technology into daily results for your own people. We will cure your diseases, raise the efficiency of your farms, teach you how to take care of your environment, build roads, hospitals, schools, anything you want or need. You may not have the company of all those dastardly racist whites who kept oppressing you and keeping you down, but aside from that, it will be like a home away from home. All we ask is you don’t rape or eat our emissarries we send over there expressly to help you. Naturally, we will offer methods to prevent AIDS like safe sex, we will help employ women and increase their ability to farm or get educations or property so they aren’t locked into childbearing prisons, and we will offer new medical technologies that for instance fertilize a dozen of your eggs, genetically test to see which of them is the brightest, healthiest, and most beautiful, and then that child will be the fruit of your loins. Entirely natural, entirely you, just the best in you. What anyone would want for their children. And as the years go by and your countries improve, and our technologies improve, together, we can offer you even more generous and helpful products, like designer babies, fusion power for cheap, robot chore-doers, robot girlfriends for when you just absolutely need to rape someone like the good old days with built in life-like screaming and kicking. I have so much confidence in the genius of white accomplishment, that you can bet almost every Christmas you will find some new cool thing under the tree courtesy of us. Courtesy of our love and gratitude for all of you who decided not to come here, or who decided to go back to where you properly belong among your own people. Maybe if East Asia is feeling generous (but you know how those curmudgeons are) they could chip in too, but in any event, the whole world down to the very last slum in India will be better. Cleaner. Safer. Richer. Better Fed. More environmentally sustainable. With prettier girls than you ever saw before, smarter, more peaceful and industrious boys than you ever hoped for, and all of it with the same skin colors you are used to and the same festive dances and holidays. The only difference you’ll see is that your race is better at being itself. It will be whatever you want it to be, just as we’ll be whatever we want to be. A truer expression of our race than ever before. That is the joy of looking inwards instead of outwards, a world of development instead of competition, love not hate. And someday, whites will simply leave, and you can have the entire world to yourselves. We will leave a big thank you card and flowers in our gardens. We know how hard it is on you that so much land wasn’t inhabited by your people and that we racists, unfortunately, were still physical beings who needed our own space to breathe and play in. But we will make our amends for that too. We will put our space program back on track, just like the enterprising white Americans, Germans, and Russians who got us there in the first place, and this time we’ll find earth-like planets to inhabit, in stars far far away, and we’ll simply pick up and go. This is maybe 500, maybe 1,000, maybe 10,000 years away. But is that so bad? Jesus was born 2,000 years ago and people are still patiently waiting for his resurrection. So what’s another 2,000 years of waiting for whites to leave? The land is patient, it has lived and breathed for 4 billion years. The sun is patient, it will still be shining on the green banks of the Mississippi and the Rhine and the Volga and the Danube and the St. Lawrence 2,000 years from now when you arrive. The snow is patient, it will fall each winter for you to make snow forts in, sled down, or whatever you wish to do. It will be like we were never there, all intact and ready for the Third World to own everything. Consider us renters, just taking a small break on our sojourn. Don’t worry, we won’t come back. As you can see, all our interests are ultimately compatible. In the end, all we ever wanted to do was give you things. We’re just those kinds of guys. All you have to do is let us give you what we can, and keep what we must, and you will see how very reasonable and peaceful we always were. It’s your choice, your call. The ball is in your court. Can’t we all just get along? (end super-sacharine mode) In truth, all whites need is a healthy mindset, an enterprising spirit, their already quite remarkable genetic code kept intact, and a land of their own to translate those goods into a concrete reality around them. This land must be sufficient such that no amount of military might or economic sanctions from the non-white could bring us under. We will also need a sort of barrier against mental attacks, something that prevents the same seducing theories to enter our brains and infect us again. Jews, especially, and jewish thinking and all previous jewish thought, should never be allowed back into the white world. Yes, this means a restriction of free speech, and no I don’t care. After two thousand years of lies we really don’t need to know what jews will be saying next. I can pretty much guess anyway. We have been the hosts to those seductive smooth-talking parasites for 2,000 years now and I personally am sick of it. Country after country has collapsed under the weight of their speeches, and enough is enough. Their communism killed 100 million people, and the new multicultural-egalitarianism crowd of the ADL, SPLC, ACLU etc are striving to go one better. Not to mention the horrendous atrocities done to Germans, many not even living in Germany, by American Jews like Morgenthau and Soviet Jews like Ehrenburg. Now, referring back to our bare essentials, I honestly think with these safeguards in place, whites will flourish like never before. The scientific method and the Enlightenment, after the horrible derailment of intellectual jewry, will be set back on course to the glorious heaven we were about to create for ourselves. Cleanse our system of the poisons and the degeneracy, start the engine back and watch it play out the way it was meant to the first time. Whatever costs that are imposed on us by keeping the rest of the world around and constantly helping them out is nothing in the face of an unobstructed path we can boldly walk forward into - united and assured of our goodness. Basically, if you get what you really want, it’s okay to give up what you never really needed. And emotions which are currently ragged by how much abuse we have taken, will in time be at peace when surrounded by the comfort and joy shining in all the white faces in our pure white cities and towns and media all around us. In time, we will forget any animosity we had for anyone, and it will feel good to help the same people that were out to destroy us. However, something will be different than last time, because this time we will realize we are one people, united under a common destiny and common nature, that can never be shared with outsiders. This time we will love ourselves too much to defile that pact with anyone else. Like a monogamous marriage, whites will realize any addition of extra lovers only dilutes the love they already have. That more isn’t better, and sometimes, a secret is better left kept. A sense of the sacred will touch our hearts and keep us pure, where hate currently keeps us burning for the same separation. And that is something boy and girl alike, effiminate as they come, can share, and not feel guilty for. I dearly hope. Comments:2
Posted by 2001 Space Oddity on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:32 | #
That already happened. Euros went into Australia with the same aims. Instead they brought with them European diseases that killed off half the natives in a few years alone with things like the flu and even the common cold, completely unknown to those natural, organic and eco-friendly aborigines who led disease free lives and died of old age up until the Euros arrived with their inorganic ways. I won’t go into all the other things that happened. Just the benign, unintentional spread of disease was enough to wipe half of them out. Anyway, if people are repatriated I think the biggest favor we could do them is just leave them alone. Enough damage has already been done during the last few millenias by “explorers”, “missionaries”, and various other well meaning “philes”, and I don’t think the damage is going to be reversed until the dissolution of Kali Yuga and the dawn of Satya Yuga, when humankind is wiped out, born again naked and organic, one with Mother Nature. Then of course the cycle will perpetuate itself in the same way and we will be back to where we are now eventually. Really, I can’t believe I spent 2 minutes reading a quarter of what you wrote above. No depth whatsoever and no insight into the cyclic nature of being, time and the Universe. Color me unimpressed. What is your day job? 3
Posted by Homelander on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:40 | # No Country For Old Men (the young, in one another’s arms…) White populations in the potential Homelands will already be ageing rapidly - as whites are everywhere. Immigrants over 40 will be very much the exception. Young enough to produce, and breed - that’s the norm, and the rule. 4
Posted by Captainchaos on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:25 | # Homolander: “That’s all. Big enough.” Sorry, we’re taking it all back: the Big Idea. “White populations in the potential Homelands will already be ageing rapidly - as whites are everywhere. Immigrants over 40 will be very much the exception. Young enough to produce, and breed - that’s the norm, and the rule.” What you are advocating is rank defeatism and abject, anti-White misanthropy. I wonder what it is that keeps blood pumping through your veins, for there is a block of wood where your heart should be. It is not the idea of the opportunity to be a part of a breeding experiment in a far away land that motivates men to stand and fight to the last; it is the undying devotion to those they love and to an historic memory of all the generations past - and the foreshadowing of all those to come - bound to their lands; a bond sealed with blood. With “Whites” like you “on our side” we don’t need enemies; and with, not unreasonable to say, non-White trolls like you, if that is what you are, against us, we are only all the more heartily galvanized. Accept being pushed to the ends of the earth because that is what the council of cowardice suggests? LOL! Please do try a little harder. 5
Posted by torgrim on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:54 | # Homelander…“No Country for Old Men” You sure nailed *one* of the messages of that movie. Old Men, meaning White old men. That movie just pissed off a whole bunch of White men, that will stand up for our ancestors and our grandchildren! That movie, “No Country for Old Men” by the Cohen Bros., just opened alot of eyes, believe me, we are not rolling over for the evil that was portrayed in that film. Take it to the bank! 6
Posted by Captainchaos on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:00 | # McNumbnuts 2001st edition: “Instead they brought with them European diseases that killed off half the natives in a few years alone with things like the flu and even the common cold, completely unknown to those natural, organic and eco-friendly aborigines who led disease free lives and died of old age up until the Euros arrived with their inorganic ways.” They also brought with them something approaching human compassion and and the technology that afforded the “natives” a standard of living above that of animals. You claimed earlier you were White, and against inter-racial relationships; the above does not strike me as the sentiments of a racially conscious “White” “man”. “I won’t go into all the other things that happened. Just the benign, unintentional spread of disease was enough to wipe half of them out.” What of the Asiatic invaders who spread the Black Plague to Europe taking with it 50% of her inhabitants? Your victimhood is neither unique, nor special; but you purport it to be because it is in your interest to do so. So that you can continue to bleed all the White bleeding-hearts until their blood runs dry. “Anyway, if people are repatriated I think the biggest favor we could do them is just leave them alone.” Consider the favor done. “Then of course the cycle will perpetuate itself in the same way and we will be back to where we are now eventually.” The mystical mumbo-jumbo of an Asiatic mind. Yawn. “Really, I can’t believe I spent 2 minutes reading a quarter of what you wrote above. No depth whatsoever…” Twerp says what? You are one to talk: you write so opaquely, so repetitiously: it is as if you are writing from a script; and it is stilted, and it stale. “What is your day job?” “5 bedroom home[s]” are certainly a pleasant fantasy. But the library is about to close; back to your cardboard box, strategically placed on the steam grate. 7
Posted by cladrastis on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:46 | #
You should…It’s what got us into this mess in the first place. Whether it’s called political correctness or outright censorship, it amounts to the same thing - restriction of free speech. Thinking individuals will always be able to sort out truth from lies without a nanny state doing the job for them. Personally I like Bowery’s advocacy of revival of the duel. That would be means-enough for dealing with Semitic subverters. 8
Posted by Homelander on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:10 | # torgim Haven’t seen the movie. The title is a quote from the Irish patriot-poet W. B. Yeats. Capt. Chaos I assume you keep YOUR block of wood where your brain is supposed to be. Whites have Russia NOW. Ethnic Russians make up 90% of the current population… ...and in twenty years, they will make up 50% of the population. Almost any sort of immigration is already illegal, but they have neglected to have any kids - have neglected it for so long, it wouldn’t particularly make any difference if they tried to play catch up now, becuse there is no time left, and a lot of those “90%” aren’t up to it any more (they’re too old). Meanwhile there are a bunch of kids in Russia. It’s just that those kids are mostly packed into the 10%. Get it? There aren’t any white kids coming - world-wide - soon enough to change the math decisively. The age-STRUCTURE of white and non-white populations are different. And that makes a hell of a lot of difference going forward. Think about it. 9
Posted by Bill on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:49 | # Ok, let’s peel this onion right down to the core. Nature doesn’t give a stuff about any of this, five minutes of watching one of a plethora of natural history films on TV tells us this. The world is simply indifferent to what we are earnestly discussing here, nature is not interested, the universe is not interested. One day, the sun is going to devour mother earth and puther the gaseous remains into the galatic recycling bin. Man is not equipped to understand any of this, the tools at our disposal are totally inadequate to figure what it’s all about. Why else do we look to the transcendent for guidance. I see in my vision Liberal man. Having peeled the onion of oppression, he is striding triumphant atop our lifeless globe. I shall call him Darwin. Perhaps he once dwelt on Mars. Meanwhile, back on the ranch. Many years ago, (when serving my National Service) a colleague a few years older than me said that at some point in the future, man would discover he was God. At the time I was puzzled, now I see what he meant. 10
Posted by Captainchaos on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:20 | # Hasbeenlander: “Whites have Russia NOW. Ethnic Russians make up 90% of the current population… ...and in twenty years, they will make up 50% of the population.” I won’t quibble with your facts (any man who is “smart” enough to type in “Yeats” to his search engine of choice for a untimely quip must be equipped with enough “intellect” to fish out such things) - they seem to pass the smell test to me. It is a, presumably, reasonable prediction of things in future given current trends play out unchecked. In other words, they would not so play out if checked; that is not left unchecked. Now, my question to you: Why, and by what iron law of nature should we, leave those trends unchecked? Eh? If you tell me it is because you are a pussy, and that there is not even a block of wood where your balls should be, but a gaping void, I will at least congratulate you for your honesty; but afterwords say, “Grow a pair.” What’s that? You didn’t hear me? I repeat, “GROW A PAIR!” “Almost any sort of immigration is already illegal, but they have neglected to have any kids - have neglected it for so long, it wouldn’t particularly make any difference if they tried to play catch up now, becuse there is no time left, and a lot of those “90%” aren’t up to it any more (they’re too old).” Blah, blah, blah, BLAH! How many White men, armed with big-scary White man’s weapons do YOU suppose it would take to rectify THAT situation if it comes to it? Numbers are a minor consideration; only will is lacking. You know it, I know it, and your dog Fido does too. It is real freakin’ obvious. “Meanwhile there are a bunch of kids in Russia. It’s just that those kids are mostly packed into the 10%.” The Russian fertility rate is rising; Putin is seeing to that. Just what bathroom wall did you glean your shabby view of the nature of our people from? The young will take take off, abandoning their oldsters to the ravages of untended old age and the depredations of muds?! Maybe the science fiction enthusiasts around here are right, but not in the way they think: We should spare no expense, great and small, in designing the necessary technology to shoot our race traitors into space. LOL! Their oldsters will not be up to “making the journey” to the reconstituted Hyperborea and their youngsters will not abandon them. Put that “math” in your pipe and smoke it. Russia is one instance, in America the birth rate of Whites is near replacement level. So your argument doesn’t apply here - it is just the “intellectual” universalizing of your lack of testosterone and excess of estrogen. LOL! Why don’t you get a fucking clue? 11
Posted by Homelander on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:52 | # CC - EVERYTHING in Russia is about numbers…or the Wehrmacht would be running the place. The only thing you have a “pair” of, is a pair of thumbs to twiddle while the clock runs down and the numbers overtake us. “raising the fertility rate” (McArthur’s prescription) “halting immigration” (a meritorious if untimely idea) and even the (BIG BLUFF) “race war” is what middle-aged white guys do, while they drink beer and watch black athletes perform on TV. That…and they get older. 12
Posted by Captainchaos on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:28 | # Homelander: “EVERYTHING in Russia is about numbers…or the Wehrmacht would be running the place.” Unh, geez, where to begin? You make it seem as if there will be two guys left to hold the place. Nonsense. Do you think Putin is aware of your nightmare, worst case scenario? If so, does he have no contingency plan? Does he strike you as the type of guy to roll over and beg for a treat? If he is not aware of your nightmare scenario, then he is: a) a moron or; b) his “help” are morons and he needs to find some new help. Then again, there is always the possibility that your nightmare scenario is bogus. Let’s assume it is not. Unless everything that comes to us in America is a complete misrepresentation of the quality of the Russian people’s revolve to live and not die, then I figure they will do what it takes. They actually have a government for rules, with a not unclenched fist, for the benefit of securing the existence of their people. I said a government. You know, that wields tanks, planes, NUKES? If I were a betting I would put my money on the Russian people surviving and holding on to what they have before those in the West. They can remove the interlopers from their land - hopefully by non-violent, or at least not too violent means - and other nations will not be able to lay a mitt on them. Why? NUKES. Why do you care about Russia BTW? Are you Russian? I doubt it. I doubt a Russian would be speaking in such defeatist tones. “The only thing you have a “pair” of, is a pair of thumbs to twiddle while the clock runs down and the numbers overtake us.” I’m not in a position to force anyone to move to the Promised Land. The best I can do is try to galvanize a little fighting spirit so that we can retake what should never have been taken from us in the first place. This is, essentially, a watered down version of Norman Lowell’s plan; is he a nutty day dreamer? Maybe. Maybe the more realistic scenario is that Whites are destined to become minorities in their own countries and they will be forced to organize politically and fight for scraps in the racial spoils system - I have a hard time believing that they won’t eventually so organize. I don’t doubt some will move to the Promised Land. But most? What will those remaining do? They will surely be forced to organize under an explicitly racial identity - and probably be forced to constitute something like a volunteer paramilitary organization to protect them and theirs. In North America, 200 Whites are not just going to shrink into the woodwork no matter how many non-White you pile on top. They will still exist, and necessity will still be the mother of invention. “...is what middle-aged white guys do, while they drink beer and watch black athletes perform on TV. That…and they get older.” I’m not middle-aged, I don’t swill beer and I don’t watch much television. Unfortunately I haven’t found a way to stall the aging process just yet. It’s right on my list after curing cancer. Will let you know if I have a break throughs. P.S. If we are not going to have a “race war”, which I do not want by the way - that would be a bad break for all concerned - shouldn’t we at least try organizing politically before we call it quits and run for the hills? Just asking. Pushing the panic button before we’ve even given anything our best shot seems drastic to me. Trust me, one day the demand for politicians that represent the interests of Whites will be there - in spades. 13
Posted by Homelander on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:33 | # CC - Nice that you have chosen to re-engage, and speak to me as though I had the interests of whites foremost too. And, yeah - sure, it would be great to take a stand WHEREVER… and probably to do so - to begin with - is the beginning of any solution. And I am very happy about the nukes in Europe - in Russia, in Britain and in France. The Brits will keep ALL of their country, I’m sure. The French? I dunno, but their military will never give those weapons to Arabs (But they didn’t use them against Algeria, either). One would like to believe Putin, nor any successor would never give them up to Asiatics - but 75 years of Communism (and the tsars before) were all about a multi-ethnic experiment in giving them everything else - and Putin has a military whose ranks are half-Moslem now. Of course…we gave our nukes to Barak Obama. (gotta go to my other job. later.) 14
Posted by Diamed on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:13 | # Homelander: I think you’re neglecting a resource that is vital to the equation. People Want to segregate. People Want to separate. They will spend tens of thousands of dollars to escape non-whites and move to some expensive white neighborhood where their kids can attend a white school. They almost all marry other whites. They even watch white tv that appeals to no one but other whites. There are concerts where a sea of whites gather to listen and you can’t find a single black in the crowd. Churches are almost entirely segregated on Sundays, whites go to white church, blacks to black church. In the cafeterias at school, whites gather at white lunch tables, blacks at black lunch tables. Do you get it yet? White people instinctively prefer the company of their own over anyone else. They always will, no matter what swill they are fed. Therefore what has been stopping us from becoming popular, winning elections, and gaining power? Is it because we don’t offer what they want? Nonsense, people are white flighting en masse to get even a semblance of what we offer and paying top dollar to keep the non-whites and their social malaises out of their backyard, with us that is a bill they would never have to pay. Is it because we won’t be good for the economy? Nonsense, whites overwhelmingly hate paying the high taxes for welfare to minorities, affirmative action taking away their jobs for unqualified minorities, the cost of crime and the cost of law enforcement to fight crime, the drugs minorities push on their children, the car wrecks caused by drunken illegal immigrant mexicans, you name it. Whites hate having to clean up after the hellholes blacks made of Detroit, Washington D.C., New Orleans, and in the 90’s NYC. They vote, completely ineffectually, to crack down on crime, drugs, welfare, affirmative action, and all the SYMPTOMS of diversity. Why don’t they vote against the cause, diversity itself? Why don’t they see in us the answer to all their economic woes, since we honestly, truly are? I will tell you, it is because they don’t like violence. They don’t want to hurt anyone. Our mainly-white army could utterly annihilate all diversitoids in a few days with practically zero losses, but whites can’t stand the thought of that. For some reason, whites are sick of violence and violent solutions, and they want to be seen as a force for good for the world. They want everyone to love them down to the last panda bear and three-toed frog. They can’t vote for “The Party For Annihilating Diversity.” Even though they hate diversity, even though they know we have nailed the source of all their problems, they will never let us in power. Images of the holocaust, slavery, the indian wars, the crusades, the inquisition, the wars of religion, and every other evil ever attributed to whites will flit before their eyes, and they’ll say: “No! This is our last chance! if we do even one more evil deed then the whole world will hate us forever, they’ll think we can’t change, that we’re bloody, selfish, and evil by our very nature. We’ll make enemies out of the whole world. We won’t be loved or admired or appreciated. I just want a group hug! And it doesn’t matter if no one else judges us, because I will judge myself harshly enough. I didn’t want to be like the whites of yore, I wanted to respect and admire myself as a good person who never resorts to violence, how can I ever vote for the “Party of Diversity Annihilation?” These are the people we have to reach. Whether we explain to them that violence works and it is worth it to save our people and civilization, or whether we reassure them that we are extremely humane and self-effacing and that the world will still love us because we’ll get what they want without hurting anyone, not even their feelings. That by the time this is over, everyone will be grateful to us for all the good we’ve done for their sakes, and not have a single story of a single child being mistreated anywhere on earth by whites. You’re missing the opportunities of this approach, because you think no one’s minds will change in the next twenty years as demographics take their toll. Minds will change. We simply must give them an attractive enough package, and if we aren’t voted in, then we’ll be some 30% political party and we’ll damn well have enough to make our own country with it. There is a vast pool of white racism just beneath the surface. Virtually every white on earth is racist, they don’t like minorities, they don’t like living near them, and they care deeply about themselves, their family, and their culture. It’s our job to offer them something they can convince themselves that it’s okay to let that inner racist come out. There are more dynamics going on right now than just demographics—there are multiple trendlines occurring simultaneously. For instance in America 20% of people now wish to secede from the USA. That’s very high. How much higher until it happens? I don’t know, but let’s make sure one of those successor states is a white nationalist homeland, neh? 15
Posted by Fr. John on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:09 | # “As a thought experiment, couldn’t we at least try to soothe these people and coddle their ridiculously oversensitive moral compasses? “ Why? As my wife points out daily to her elementary age students, (who BRISTLE at every iteration of the fact) “Life ISN’T Fair!” Wars happen, people die, (hello! - even old age is ‘not fair’; you mean, you WANT wrinkles, baldness, and impossible to lose fat? But there you are….) empires are born and die… ALL OF IT is NOT FAIR. That’s the general; now for the specific- Sin enslaves, Blacks are stupid, Sodomites are childless (and/or should REMAIN so), Jews rule vast amounts of stuff they are not entitled to, Whites are Inventors, Asians are worker bees, (unless their lust for power incarnates in a Hirohito or Genghis Khan) and Western Civ. is UNQUESTIONABLY [precisely because it is/was a) WHITE and b) Christian] the all-time winner in the Altruistic, ‘ennoble the world’ arena…. which goes a long way for winning the Gold as “Masters of the Universe,” however ‘White Supremacist’ that may sound (But there you are…..). As a recent column over at my blog noted, the end result of this ‘unfairness’ is to entrust it to the ONE that is ALWAYS Just- (but He is, also, not ‘Fair’... as the world defines ‘fair’! ) “May we bow the knee to no other Despot than YHWH God, our King, and Christ, his Son, our Lord.” [As to YHWH God’s and Christ’s ‘unfairness,’ cf. John 15:16, Eph. 1:4] http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2008/12/30/season-of-incarnation-6-2008/ (It’s filled with a bunch of theological stuff most on this board won’t like, but there you are- Life isn’t Fair, and YOU ARE NOT GOD.) All of the stuff that lies behind this mindset is CHILDISHNESS; as the Author mentioned in my blog entry whom I quote has noted: “‘Liberals are like teenagers whose will-to-be-gratified was never subdued, and now cannot grasp the simple logic of what is being said to them,’ Bradley writes. ‘They are so emotionally obsessed with getting what their hearts want that they are unwilling to listen to reason. ” -from the book “Born Liberal, Raised Right: How to Rescue America from Moral Decline – One Family at a Time,” by Reb Bradley. So, instead of wringing our hands, and acting like a bunch of anorexic ‘liberated women’ seeking SOMETHING to fulfill their mothering instincts- after they have denied their own reproductive clocks FAR too long (Yes, a time limit on ‘personal fulfillment’ is ‘not fair!’ (and avoided, thereby, the chance at ‘salvation’ by being mother of their own racially-pure children - [I Tim. 2:15]) we need, as CC has noted, to ‘grow a pair’ and become once more the WHITE MEN that LED THE WORLD. We are destined to be the World’s RULERS. Is that ‘fair’? No, I suppose not. But better a Richard Lionheart, or a George Washington, than a Pol Pot, Mugabe, Sarkozy, Ataturk, or Barry Soetoro Davis - all of them an ‘Obamanation’ before the Lord.’ 16
Posted by Homelander on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:00 | # Diamed I guess I’m not making myself clear…I agree. Secession is the way to do it. You can get white Americans - a sizeable minority of them, actually - to agree to this, rather than an endless, endlessly contentious, and probably fruitless effort to create a “white” America out of a nation that’s at least a third mud already. Secession is a big deal in Canada too. And this is something that WN’s here need to pay more attention to. Look in Wiki under “Western Alienation”. It’s a topic about Western Canada, and English-speaking Canadians. About a third of them want to bag the federation - not least of all because of goofy immigrationism out of Ottawa. Another entry is “Accessionism”. Up to a quarter of Canadians (everywhere) believe this - Canada (all or part) should unite with the US (all…or part?). Interesting, no? WA, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Alaska…AND Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, BC, two Territories (maybe three) and perhaps (when they come to their senses) Ontario. If you can’t see the bolt-hole here, you can’t see! 95% white, 97% English-speaking, 99% Christian. Some gooks in Vancouver, Seattle and Portland. A few blacks in Seattle…a few more in Portland. Fewer Mexicans than you’d think, and a “native” rate of under 2%. Not even many Jews. It’s a ready-made nation, more white than the US in 1870. Energy resources. Everybody’s educated. Instead…you want to flush, say, 35% of the adult population in CONUS, by persuading a white electorate that went for Obama by 40%? 17
Posted by Diamed on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:41 | # I’m worried your lily white states with secessionist tendencies would not be seceding on racial grounds and would thus re-institute the exact same problems and policies they left behind. The main bulwark of non-democratic voters in the obama election was not washington, it was the South. Only people who live around non-whites have the opportunity to realize how obnoxious they are. All-white areas are thus less likely centers of rejuvenation than half-white areas, or even 10% white areas. People first have to identify the problem, diversity, before they can rally around the correct solution, homogeneity. The areas you speak of are white by coincidence, not choice, they have no strong loyalties to anything and would probably have liberal multiculti beliefs even after attaining independence. Basically even with a gerrymander leaving your new country 100% white, you’d still have to convert all of them to racism if you hope to keep it that way for even a few years. Your task is just much harder than mine, because you have no life experiences and concrete examples you can draw upon, and the only knowledge any white has of a nonwhite is what he’s seen on TV, to convince people with. That’s why believe it or not it’s more likely whites will ‘flush’ populations out of their system and set up a racist state, than say an all white country like Iceland become a bulwark of racism. Scandinavia was 100% white until just a few years ago but were deeply anti-racist liberals. When the opportunity to import non-whites arrived, they jumped over themselves to take it. Now they are on the same downward trend as the rest of us. I can’t predict the future though. Who knows, maybe you’re right. 18
Posted by the Narrator... on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:22 | #
Not quite,
And the two Whitest state there, Montana and Wyoming have small populations as it is. 500,000 and 900,000 respectively. And on top of that, non-hispanic White can mean anyone of European, North African or Middle-eastern ancestry.
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Posted by Homelander on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:38 | # Above - I suck at stats! But factor in Canada, and see what the total average is? And match mine to any OTHER six contiguous states, and four or five provinces? Diamed - Yours is the argumentative point, I s’pose. But I think you’d agree, that nothing gets done (alas) until SOMEONE gets mangled. In Europe, if Spain/Portugal or Greece gets sucked under…well, that’s got their attention now! Easier to do something in Stockholm or Cologne with an example like THAT in front of you. And a simpler task to manage, now that the Will has arrived. Same thing when big parts of Russia, Georgia and Armenia start disappearing beyond the Event Horizon. Already started, to some extent. I mean, how do you think they’re feeling in Belgrade, Sophia and Bucharest these days? THAT’S how they’re going to be feeling in Paris and Prague. And over here? Suppose Canada splits up ANYWAY…cause of the Frogs? Does a guy in Alberta listen to geeks in Ottowa, who couldn’t keep the Federation together anyway? And if Obama tips the South West over to the muds - you don’t think he’ll do that? - and they ask for Aztlan…who will say “no”? I don’t even care, myself…just give me mine! 20
Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:41 | # Having recently moved away from the rural Pacific Northwest to Iowa (at a substantial financial sacrifice that I could ill afford) I must regrettably agree with Diamed with the following caveat: There are 3 demographies to contend with in places like the PNW: 1) The “locals” which are, as Diamed points out, only too-ready to “jump over themselves” to play down the media image of them even though it means their daughters end up on black tar heroin and their sons end up raped by ethnic prison gangs. 2) The fraction of the “white retreat” population which, contrary to Diamed’s assertions, are quite ready to take any actions necessary to protect their remaining territory. 3) The fraction of the “white retreat” population which, even more supportive of Diamed’s thesis than is Diamed, are unadulterated evil incarnate: They like to live in white areas not only because they can’t really do well in the pollution of “diverse” environments, but because they can continue to posture as morally superior to other whites as they pretend to be “less racist than thou” while destroying their environment yet again. It is this unadulterated evil incarnate population that must be dispatched in the PNW if any progress is to be made there because they tend to occupy positions of influence in business and civic organizations. Since I was unprepared to wage that kind of warfare I had to leave. 21
Posted by Homelander on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:59 | # Diamed - You’re right about one thing. Iowa picked Barak because the only blacks they see are on HBO and the Sports Channel. And I live in the PNW…and they are multi-culti all over. But they also have the toughest violent crime laws in the country. I come from back East, and I have a MUCH more kick-back response to minority behavior, as it really is…doesn’t shock me. These folks don’t get it - but they won’t let you down when they do. Racist Crackers? The same folks who brought you Slavery - how’d THAT work out? I don’t trust Old-Fashioned Crackers, who THINK they understand ‘coons, and know less about Hispanics. Blink - and they’re financing some Mission to save souls in Honduras, or the Phillipines. 22
Posted by Rollory on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:04 | # Also, call me crazy, but I wouldn’t bet the long-term future of the race on the area surrounding the Yellowstone supervolcano. Sooner or later it’s going to blow and cover western NA with a few feet of volcanic ash. Did you know that if you breathe that stuff in, it turns to concrete in your lungs? Regarding the birthrate trends, this _is_ an important point. There just aren’t enough white kids _right now_ to reverse things in the next 30 years. Talk about willpower and determination all you like, there’s only so much you can do with that, quantity has a quality all its own. Triage is needed; deciding what can be held and what can’t, husbanding what strength we have, and setting the groundwork for a society that will retake what is needed over the course of future generations. Reconquista, only without allowing all the intermarriage this time. 23
Posted by the Narrator... on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:38 | #
Just for the heck of it. I used WIki for a Canadian source, and many of their estimates are apparently from 2001. Almost a decade old. And I’m pretty sure there have been some added minorities up there since 2001. Plus, I’m not sure who all identifies themselves as “Canadian”. Alberta, BC, Sask, Manitoba and Ontario have an est. total pop. of 22.9 million people. That’s about 19 million White people in those Canadian provinces. In America, in the states you listed; Wash., Ore., Wyoming, Montana, Alaska and Idaho, there is a total est. pop. of 13.4 million. That’s about 10.7 million White people in those US states. All together, that is about 29.6 million White people total for those US states and Canadian provinces making up an estimated average of 82% of the population. . . That’s about 34 million White people in those six states. So that North-West region has around 30 million Whites. 82%
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Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:50 | # Iowa picked Barak because the only blacks they see are on HBO and the Sports Channel. I don’t know if this was a backhanded swipe at my move to Iowa, but if it was, the reason Iowa, and most of the upper Midwest, is a better retreat than the PNW isn’t because the locals are less inclined to “jump over themselves” to live down the media slanders against them (as well as the myth of the ethnic “minority” as Christ-like hero-victim promulgated by the media)—they’re about the same in that regard—but because there are fewer people retreating there which means fewer of the “light unto the hicks” which I discussed as the evil incarnate of demography #3 above. That makes a huge difference in a human ecology’s prospects for preservation. The recent crackdown in Postville, IA is more than a little encouraging in this regard. I seriously doubt that crackdown could have occurred in the PNW with all the ACLU members from southern California fleeing up there to remain in their blissfully opiated state as Church Ladies of Holocaustianity. 25
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:51 | # Good discussion thread here. An extremely informative, thought-provoking airing of certain very important issues. 26
Posted by Captainchaos on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:08 | # Homelander: “Nice that you have chosen to re-engage, and speak to me as though I had the interests of whites foremost too.” I’m glad to see that you’ve chosen to engage. I am, also, glad to see you’ve given up your war of “Christermas”. I think the [j]ews have that one covered. And you have my apology for speaking to you (which one of you?) with such impertinence, again. I wasn’t sure who you were at first, okay then. “And, yeah - sure, it would be great to take a stand WHEREVER… and probably to do so - to begin with - is the beginning of any solution.” Yes, yes, yes; preach White soul brother! At some point it will have to be done regardless. Realistically, it will be the working and lower-middle classes that will do it, organically, because they will HAVE to, because there will be NO other choice. When a mud comes at you with a knife your pacifism goes out the window or you die. We may have grown soft, we may have grown frivolous, but the same blood of those who conquered continents still runs through our veins. The definitive record of history tells us that our race is second to none, in any regard, where the rubber meets the road. We have never depended on numbers and never been found wanting to do what must be done, when we really have our minds set on it, thanks to our racial superiority - if I may be so blunt. It is getting people (the lemmings) motivated to DO something, anything - anything at all - that is, boiled down, the only consideration. What can you get them to do? And under what circumstances will they do it? As I see you’ve acknowledged above, the “worse is better” school of motivation has it’s merits. It is when a guy knows, deep in his gut, because he has seen, or been presented with a vivid illustration, of just why he will be gutted like a fish if he doesn’t wriggle off dat der hook that will get him to ACT. Once he is ready to ACT, THEN it is those of us with “the game plan” that can make something productive come of his renewed life instinct. Secession is good, great, probably necessary, of immense value, if successful would deal a potential deathblow to the psyche of the mudly-cult (HaHa!); all of that and a ball of twine. But, there will be many - in fact most - who are left behind, and what happens vis-a-vis them is of IMENSE importance to what future those in Hyperboria will enjoy. So it cannot be neglected. P.S. I’m glad to see you’ve reminded the light bulbs that if they aren’t plugged into the socket ain’t nuttin’ gonna happen. “I know, let’s kill all the muds. No wait, let’s set them up back in the third world with lollipops and jacuzzis.” LOL! BULLSHIT! No offence to light bulbs, I happen to like them. But what good is a friend if he won’t tell you when you are fucking up? P.S.S. I’m glad to see Bowery thinks the Midwest if the place to be, because that’s where I’m at. 27
Posted by Gudmund Haraldsen on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:57 | #
Bowery illustrates a key point. This is the problem with a subsect of upper-class Whites in general. They are the “other side’s” favorite demographic - whether they are quixotic fools with the do-gooder mentality or are simply in it for personal gain makes no difference, they are de facto genocidalists. Our enemies know that these bourgeois weenies are gold for their designs. These are usually the people who advance politically because they are most likely to swallow the internationalist/universalist BS and perpetuate the system. Again, whether they believe they are “morally superior” or just toe the line for ambition’s sake, the effect is the same. The funniest thing is, I’ve confronted these folks at times for the contradictions in their belief systems (e.g. Q: “hey, you’re so liberal, why don’t you live in a more ethnic community?” A: “oh, I work in the city” LOL!). They either dodge the question, become indignant (the liberals, I guess) or give you some trite speech about “the world works this way.” (the opportunists, I guess). There is no reasoning with them. In my upbringing I got to know these types of people very well. 28
Posted by Gudmund Haraldsen on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:12 | #
There are other races that have higher avg IQs, but when it comes to fiery, indomitable Spirit, the Whites cannot be beaten. Numbers aren’t our strong suit - in the Medieval times there were hordes in the Middle East, and yet they feared us. The Muslims only took ground when we weakened ourselves through our other pastime (besides conquest, that is), internal strife and intrigue. A populist movement WILL come as you’ve said. Right now, we focus on the vanguard, the elite. The lemmings will follow, as Diamed says, when the message fits (our enemies use commoditization, we must as well). And it will when or probably before the threat of pogroms and extermination is nigh. As an aside, we have a bit of a power structure right now, though we don’t even know it. Thousands of Whites awakened to the cause are already working towards our common goals, albeit in diffuse and compartmentalized form. In some ways, the decentralization of this cause serves to our advantage presently.
Nationalism, baby! It is returning to us here in the Cold North. We’ll call our homeland Vinland, in honor of our Norse ancestors, when we’ve finally expelled the liberal rot that infests it. 29
Posted by Homelander on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:32 | # CC - I have never posted on a WN site before…haven’t posted on the I’net for a few years, and that was on some generic “conservative” and “right-wing” sites, under various handles, and from within a sorta “neo-con” philosophy…back when I was dumb enough to still buy that. I haven’t posted at this site before yesterday, and have only been aware of it since about two weeks ago. I am really not sure, but I think I might have gotten here through Steve Sailer or Larry Auster. Maybe AmRen. Off somebody’s blog-roll. I stumbled on some secessionist ideas from a guy named Harold Covington. He has a small (not especially interesting) blog called “Thought-Crime”. Some novels on the Net. I don’t think his Northwest Migration ideas - as such - are very realistic. When it comes to secession, you gotta get some things right. Not too big. Not too small. And it’s gotta happen more than once, in more than one place. There have to be many nations in Europe. There need to be at lest two in N. America - and more would be better. They seem to have some ideas of white preservation in Aus./NZ…but NONE in far South America. I’d love to see English and Dutch S. Africans grab the Cape Province - but that’s up to them. 30
Posted by Homelander on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:53 | # While I was at work (short day) I thought about your point on leaving people behind. Her’s a scenario: You’re 16-17. In a city that’s 60% minorities, a region that’s 40% minorities…a High School that’s 80% minorities. Then you meet that girl who suddenly became, well…the point of everything, so far as you’re concerned. What do you say to her? “Let’s hang here for the rest of our lives, and bring our kids into it. And chance that sometime this year, I’ll be held down, and forced to watch while a bunch of——‘s gang-rape you. Don’t worry…I’ll join an out-numbered Skin-Head gang, and everything will be all right. “And when we get out of this school - maybe get some college - I’ll grow my hair, cover the tats, and we’ll move to a nearby ‘burb.” Why? OR “Let’s take the train to Montana or BC. If our parents don’t come? We were going to leave them someday, in some sense, anyway. That’s the course of nature.” The worse things are…the more common this kind of decision is…and it’s pretty common already. 31
Posted by torgrim on Thu, 01 Jan 2009 00:37 | # Gudmund Heraldsen— As reality forces more White folk to question the whys and whos of our current financial meltdown and quickly following, strife, this, will be step one. The other step is nature taking it’s course, those that formented the marxist cultural revolution are dying….remember they were the young adults in the 50’s, the “Beat” generation. The old 60’s round back Volvo drivers, women with short hair and mens clothes…those that left S.F. and moved to Seattle and Portland, to spread their….“religion”. Vinland, a good name for the north of North America, after all, there is some reason to suspect that N.America or Vinland was populated by Europeans way before C. Columbus. (off topic, possibly, but interesting) http://www.explorenorth.com/
“You’re 16-17. In a city that’s 60% minorities, a region that’s 40% minority, a High School that’s 80% minority. Better yet, get the parents or grandparents to sell out in the occupied zone, and buy the children/grandchildren land. Don’t stay. I worked for the “Mans” green FRN’s…..big mistake….they get the product, the worker gets shit. Buy land, build your home, grow your food, sweat, use your hands and your head. Had I “listened” to my intuitive advice, I would be sitting somewhere in the North Country today, with independence, land and something for my grandchildren to inherit. If you are living in a situation like Homelander discribed, it is only a matter of time, before the savages hurt or kill someone you love. I know. Off to share a horn of mead with kin, Mother’s Night of Yule! 32
Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 01 Jan 2009 05:59 | # The funniest thing is, I’ve confronted these folks at times for the contradictions in their belief systems (e.g. Q: “hey, you’re so liberal, why don’t you live in a more ethnic community?” I actually toyed with the idea of setting up a Brazilian real estate company to help these “weenies” sell their assets in the US and move to Brazil where their “experiment” is much further along. What I noticed was that the wives would tend to respond positively to the suggestion but the husbands would try to change the subject. This may be a strategy for dispatching couples: Get the she-monkies into the idea of seeing their husbands trying to out monkey some Brazilians in a “let’s you and him fight” kind of pathology. But there are quite a number of spinsters who know they would be toast in a second if they ever gave up castrating the boys in the community and, instead, sold their property and moved to Brazil. Those “Church Ladies of Holocaustianity” as I like to call them, are utterly dependent on the ongoing existence of the Federal Government to keep them from being ripped limb from limb by the young white men they are now so intent on having raped in prisons by ethnic gangs. Oh, wait. I forgot. It’s “sexual awakening.” 33
Posted by Ryder on Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:27 | #
(Captainchaos) Agreed. This must be our ultimate objective. Our enemies think big, why shouldn’t we? Our enemies seek to mongrelize whites out of existence, not just throughout the entire United States, but throughout the entire Western world. I call that thinking big. What do people on the “Right” do in response to the left’s big idea? Do they come up with a competing and compelling big idea of their own? Nah. Instead, they make concessions. They talk about how impractical taking the whole loaf would be. Give up half of the loaf (or ninety percent, for that matter) before the fight even begins. If our opponents were reasonable, if our enemies were fair minded, this would not necessarily be a bad thing. If that were the case, perhaps we could come up with a peaceful solution acceptable to all parties. However, this is manifestly not the case. Our concessions mean nothing to these people. They want the whole loaf, and they aim to get it. We need to return the favor. That’s not to say that we should be obvlivious to the immense practical difficulties that confront us. Far from it. There are now over 100 million non-whites in this country. However, when we look around the world we see billions upon billions of non-whites, and scores and scores of non-white countries. It’s a big world out there. In the scheme of things, one hundred million non-whites is but a drop in an enormous bucket. Non-whites already have plenty of countries, plenty of people, and plenty of living space. We are the real endangered species, and we cannot afford to be cavalier about giving up territory. Two of nature’s imperatives are to secure territory and to reproduce. Right now, whites are doing neither. Having said all of this, I am in favor of accomplishing this goal in a way that is as humanitarian as possible. That is not to kid ourselves that there won’t be a lot of pain and suffering - there will be plenty enough of that to go around. But taking it all back does not mean that we become deaf to humanitarian concerns. We should be as humanitarian as the circumstances allow. But, at the end of the day, taking it all back has to trump everything else. As you say, it is the Big Idea. 34
Posted by Fred Scrooby on Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:27 | # The “thinking big” idea of CC and Ryder is right. You don’t settle for the crumbs the other guy hands you. You hold out for the world you want to see. Around the period 1860-1880 the Jews decided they were going to try for a Euroless world, then they rolled up their sleeves and got to work. What had they to lose? Nothing. If they pulled it off, the resulting world without Euros would be paradise on Earth for Jews, as they saw things. If they failed, they’d still have whatever they had and would be none the worse off in any way. They had nothing to lose, so they decided to at least try for it. Makes sense. Obviously they had no idea how long it would take to rid the world of Euros. Clearly it would probably take a long time, but they didn’t need to concern themselves with timetables. They weren’t going anywhere; Euros weren’t going anywhere. Those who wanted to devote themselves to it full-time could. All others could do it at their leisure. What they as a tribe did was simply, wherever they had the power, to push each step society or government took in the direction of Euros being zeroed-out. It wasn’t complicated. If they didn’t have the power, they didn’t push. Duh. If they did, they did. Duh. It’s not rocket science. No tension, no stress, no stomach ulcers, no tearing out of the hair, just everything done at their leisure. Don’t worry, the goys weren’t going to catch on: who would BELIEVE the Jews were out to erase Euros? NO ONE! It was too unbelievable! Where there’s no counter-resistance you win in the end no matter how small and weak you are. That’s the orthodontic/orthopedic principle: slight pressure constantly applied rearranges bones. It’s also the principle of the Chinese classic, the Lao-Tse. Now, a hundred-and-thirty-odd years later, they’re squarely on the road to pulling it off. The Jews of circa 1860 and 1880 thought big. So did the ones in every generation that came after. There’s a lesson there: you decide what you want, and how you want the world to be, and you strive for it. Striving for it doesn’t mean doing anything whatsoever foolish or wrong, such as violence or making foolish sacrifices. No. You go about your life, making your career the way you normally would, founding a family and being a good father, taking care of your wife and kids, etc., etc. etc., and at the same time wherever you have the opportunity, push the world in the direction you want it to go. If you go to where a ship is docked, brace your back against the dock and push with your legs against the ship, eventually the ship will move under your push, because water doesn’t offer much resistance. You’re weak. The ship is immense. Yet with steady pressure it moves. Naysayers? Don’t listen to them. They’re going to the void. You’re going to heaven-on-Earth. 36
Posted by Armor on Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:57 | #
The crazy left wants the whole loaf in the same way a termite wants the whole beam. Obviously, you don’t make concessions to termites. But termites do not have a big idea in the first place. It would be awkward to try and negociate with a termite. Likewise, the crazy left doesn’t have a goal that can be met by concessions from normal people. They are good at gnawing and posturing, and that is all. The white nationalists have a goal but don’t know how to get there. The phony left/right tandem is doing fast progress, but they don’t know where to. We could imagine a situation where the left would say “we want this”, and the right would say “we want that”, and we would get together and try to achieve a compromise. But actually, the left has no idea what it wants to achieve. They just say they believe in “progress”. For some reason, the leftists can only keep their position in their parties if they are more extremist than their colleagues. And the phony right finds it has an easier job if it keeps making concessions to the left. As a result of the political competition, it looks as if the political machine had developed a crazy will of its own, without any supervisors. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the leaders of the left privately complain about immigration. But they will keep pushing for more immigration until the system breaks down. In spite of the intimidation, I agree that we should be firm at least in stating what we want: we want our countries back, no race-replacement, no race-mixing. If bringing millions of immigrants to the West is not a problem, in spite of homesickness, cultural maladjustment, and the destruction of the West, then it is obviously much less of a problem to send them back home. Reversing immigration will repair most of the damage caused by immigration, and will do little damage of its own. Unfortunately, immigration to the West is now at record levels. 37
Posted by Ryder on Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:35 | #
(Armor) Certainly, but unfortunately white nationalists can’t even do that much. Many appear to despair of ever winning, but seem to never tire of spreading defeatism. I really wish they would just stop posting and tend to their own gardens, if all they can do is reiterate how we can’t win. Of course we can win! Of the ones still in the fight, there is no unifying theme. Some believe in secession (Northwest Migration, Southron Nationalists, etc.), others support taking the whole thing back. Obviously, I’m in the take it all back camp. Then there are divisions concerning religion, from atheism to Christianity to paganism. Then there are the political/economic divisions, from National Socialists to Constitutionalists to quasi libertarians. Many white nationalists seem much more intent upon arguing the above points, and many others as well, instead of focusing on the essential: to secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. At the end of the day, we can’t control what future generations of whites will do, whether they will be libertarian or not, Christian or pagan, or what have you. We cannot expect to exercise that kind of dead hand control on the future. Our job, our only job in this generation, is to secure territory and living space, so that there will actually BE future generations of whites. That’s the essential. That’s the core of it. Everything else is secondary, a very distant secondary, to the essential goal of securing the existence of our people. Once we succeed in that fundamental mission, things will evolve as they will. For example, a white nation may become more libertarian over a certain period of time, and then become more socialist ...and then back to more libertarian. Over enough centuries, over enough millenia, who knows? And frankly, who cares? Again, that’s for future generations to decide. Our generation is confronted with a particular challenge - to secure territory sufficient for our people to survive. The ONLY fundamental requirement should be that it is a land for whites only. That’s the only thing that, to my mind, is non-negotiable. As to the innumerable differences amongst white nationalists today, I don’t really care all that much. That’s not to say that I don’t care at all (I have my preferences too), just not all that much. We need a unifying vision sufficient to get the core job done. A vision that does not eliminate our other differences, but allows us to put them aside long enough to accomplish the only goal that really matters. I’m open to suggestions, but I tend to think that it could be in the form of “taking it all back” - the Big Idea, our own Manifest Destiny rekindled. Combine this with a Swiss style decentralization and emphasis on local control. A white continent of decentralized, local control. Such a decentralized framework would allow the various factions of white nationalism to have their own niche, IF we can but win the main game. I also think that such an approach is consistent with traditional American values. We’re not going to get anywhere pretending it’s 1930’s Germany. It’s not. However, in a decentralized white continent, if a particular jurisdiction wants to pursue national socialist economic policies, go for it. If another jurisdiction chooses to pursue a more libertarian approach, fine. Again, the only non-negotiable point is that the nation be for whites only. In a decentralized white society, all of the various factions and belief systems can find their place. At least there will be white lands in which they can give it a try. If we don’t unite behind a broader, umbrella vision, all of the differences between white nationalists become moot anyway. There won’t be any white lands left, and bickering over whether whites should be libertarian or national socialists will make about as much sense as arguing over which is better - elves or dwarves. 38
Posted by Diamed on Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:41 | # I like that approach and have suggested it before. First whites secure their existence vis-a-vis the outside world, second they split up into as many countries as they have ethnicities, religions, politics, philsophies—whatever. There’s plenty of land on earth for a variety of countries which suit everyone. So long as we take the land and this time hold it against the non-white hordes, everyone can win in the end. Everyone can go live in a land that reflects their values and interests. It’s very fitting for a peaceful ‘after the victory’ solution to be proposed in the same thread as a ‘peaceful victory’ solution. We can genuinely get along, our interests aren’t conflicting. Not with the outside world, not with each other. That doesn’t mean I won’t say other people are wrong, stupid, evil, or crazy for what they believe and try to persuade them otherwise. But I don’t insist anyone live under my preferences that doesn’t want to. I want to live around people who love what I love, not people who simmer with hatred for everything their country stands for but are forced by lashes to grin and bear it. I’m sure most of us feel the same way. 39
Posted by Dave Johns on Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:17 | #
Racial integrationists are the enemy and must be defaeated.
There, there’s your/our unifying theme. 40
Posted by Ryder on Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:28 | #
Unfortunately, that doesn’t get us where we need to go. Certainly defeating the integrationists is a core tenet of white nationalism, one that we should all be able to agree upon. But then comes the how. Northwest Migration, Southron Nationalism, or taking it all back? By the ballot or the bullet? And then what about the governmental and economic structure? What to do with the non-whites in our midst, and so forth and so on? We can all agree that the integrationists must be defeated, but from that point on white nationalists splinter all over the place. We need a unifying theme that can galvanize people and create real momentum, a real vision of the future. We don’t have that now. Post a comment:
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Posted by Homelander on Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:28 | #
White Homelands, realistically, can only be established where non-white minority groups - indigines, former slaves and third-world immigrants - comprise only 10%, at most, and 5% on average. And this estimate needs to be projectedx forward about twenty years, at minimum. Twenty years during which Obama, and multi-cultis everywhere, furiously dilute white majorities.
So you are talking about a French-speaking Eastern Canada, and English-speaking Western Canada (plus WA State, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming and Alaska), a Spanish-speaking Chile-Uruguay-Argentina (however they want to do it), Aus./NZ and a collection of traditional nation-states in northern and central Europe (probably including a rump Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and the Baltics).
That’s all. Big enough.