Posted by DanielS on Tue, 24 Dec 2013 17:08 | #

Neil’s pieces are inspirational, good to think over this Christmas/Solstice time: speaking of which, Merry Christmas and Solstice everyone!

Posted by Leon Haller on Tue, 24 Dec 2013 18:38 | #

What is insidious is when myths (or traditional stories) get reinterpreted in ways serving the (antiwhite) regime. Case in partial point, the new installment of The Hobbit. Saw it over this past weekend. I wonder how many persons noticed that, unlike in the LOTR films (or the first Hobbit installment, as far as I can recall), this new one contains nonwhite humans (as citizens of the laketown).

The dwarves are still all-white, as are the elves and wizards. The orcs and goblins are racially unclassifiable. The main human characters are all white, but why were those nonwhite faces included?

Posted by Leon Haller on Thu, 09 Jan 2014 21:55 | #

MR, by insisting on publishing boring, pretentious, and mostly ill-thought out ‘philosophy’ by unlettered souls, instead of practical, factual pieces on what really interests most nationalists, has now obviously lost nearly all its former readership. This is unfortunate, though unsurprising. Warnings have been sounded many times.

Well, here’s something worth noting. The leader of UKIP is now calling for a 5 year moratorium on immigration. Not as much as we would like, but under the “gradual radicalization” thesis I have advanced for many years, it’s certainly a start in the right direction.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/452471/Ukip-leader-says-open-door-immigration-policy-should-end-even-if-it-affects-economy

Posted by Leon Haller on Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:06 | #

BTW, the comments following that article are just overwhelmingly (exclusively?) anti-immigration.

All patriots really need to vote UKIP in the next election. Farage seems like a normal politician following the voters, who are clearly fed up with the invasion. How rare!

Posted by Leon Haller on Fri, 10 Jan 2014 07:47 | #

For Americans:

A good examination of the unreliability of Sen. Rand Paul, alas, a typical libertarian:

http://www.amren.com/features/2013/12/white-renegade-of-the-year/

My comment:

Mr. Hood,

Outstanding article! Of course it gravely upsets me, as I donated money to this clown in 2010. I knew he would not be a “Sam Franciscan”, but I did think he would get on the right side of immigration, even while mostly avoiding it to focus on the libertarian issues more dear to him (and on which, to his credit, he has been fairly courageous: he is the ONLY Senator I can recall who has proposed REAL spending cuts, in the $500-600 billion range, to the bloated Federal budget). You have disabused me of any lingering respect for the man.

Two additional points. First, that Jack Hunter character is almost sickening in his public groveling. It is one thing to humiliate yourself if you were caught at a KKK gathering, risk losing your job, and have children to feed. It is quite another to backtrack on positions like the causes of the War Between the States, the necessity of deportation of all illegal aliens, and this country’s systematic dispossession of whites, all of which and many others are perfectly congruent with traditional conservatism. In other words, there really do exist racists (understood as genuine, unchristian fomenters of hate) on the Racial Right, but those positions and others mentioned above are in no objective sense racist.

For Hunter to apologize for them is the height of groveling (I suggest others visit the link to Hunter’s humiliation Mr. Hood included in the post).

Second, the following, however, is simply wishful thinking:

“The tragedy is that Rand Paul was ideally positioned to lead a real political insurrection, to turn the Tea Party into the Middle American Revolution prophesied by Sam Francis. He had a real opportunity to create a movement that could roll back the multicultural state, stop illegal immigration, and reverse anti-white discrimination.” (Hood)

We needed such a movement exactly when Dr. Francis was calling for it - in the 80s, or 90s at the latest. Today, the antiwhite dispossessors have won. It remains barely possible I suppose to stop immigration, though when GOP VP nominee Rep Paul Ryan (a still better choice for Renegade for the Year, imo) is actively trying to legalize, nay, GIVE ONE MAN, ONE VOTE CITIZENSHIP TO, 30 MILLION illegal Mexicans, it may not even be politically possible to end the ILLEGAL component of the broader invasion.

But beyond a doubt, we will never be able to “roll back” the multicultural state. America was once defined (at least since the Civil War) as a nation dedicated to Liberty, albeit with many different conceptions of liberty floating around. Today, indeed, within my own lifetime (and I’m not even 50!), America has been transformed into a nation literally defined not ‘organically’, but by its commitment to Diversity, to the idea (fantasy) that all races and cultures can live harmoniously in a demographically integrated and democratic society.

We on the Racial Right reject this insane fantasy, and do so because we, first, recognize that racial diversity is naturally conflictual, tending always towards social disharmony, something inherently undesirable as well as dangerous in times of national stress; second, because we have a natural, as well as morally and therefore empirically justified preference for our own people, whose forebears, after all, founded and built OUR country; and third, because we are honest men who recognize that whites build superior societies, while nonwhites mostly make hell-holes, and certainly, at their best, have nothing to add to white quality of life by their physical presence in our nation(s).

Regardless of the case for an all-white America, we will never take this nation back. The only realistic hope for the survival of White America is racial secession, and that is the theoretical edifice we need to work on constructing at this time.

Posted by Silver on Sun, 12 Jan 2014 08:49 | #

MR, by insisting on publishing boring, pretentious, and mostly ill-thought out ‘philosophy’ by unlettered souls, instead of practical, factual pieces on what really interests most nationalists, has now obviously lost nearly all its former readership. This is unfortunate, though unsurprising. Warnings have been sounded many times.

Too true.  What a damnable fool GW turned out to be.  Even as early as 2005 and 2006 some were wondering whether he didn’t have a screw loose, but a great deal of quality material was being turned out in those days so the danger didn’t seem so obvious.  The arrival of DanielS on the front page unquestionably signaled the end; I hope there’s a special circle of hell reserved for that lunatic.

Posted by Thorn on Mon, 13 Jan 2014 00:04 | #

Incredably cheap shot, Silver.

GW has been more than gratious and accomodating to you and this is how you repay him?

Shameful and dishonerble.

As far a Daniels goes, I agree that much of his work is impenitrable for your average reader. But give credit where credit is due: DanielS demonstrates more often than not that he’s capable of writing some pretty darned effective arguements on behalf of WN. What more can—or should—you ask for?

Posted by Silver on Mon, 13 Jan 2014 05:07 | #

Thorn,

Firstly, the damn blog exists in order to invite debate and discussion.  Contributing to that debate and discussion doesn’t mean I “owe” GW anything.  If anything, the damnable old fool himself owes his readership an explanation of why he ran the blog into the ground.  (At this point it’s doubtful it’ll see out its tenth year.)

Secondly, calling my post a “cheap shot” implies you agree with its content, only you’d have preferred that I made my point less harshly.  Well, maybe, but I think GW deserves it.

Thirdly, DanielS is a complete imbecile.  The only effective points he has made are the most obvious ones; the rest of his corpus stinks to high heaven.

Posted by DanielS on Mon, 13 Jan 2014 05:33 | #

Silver doesn’t want people to hear what I say. Having penetrated his veneer of calm rationale and impartial critique to have aroused his non-White consternation, I am satisfied, is an indicator of having done some things very right.

To meet with his disapproval is a sure sign MR is getting better - more sincere, more relevant and more honestly informative: focused on the essences while contributing occasional sublime detail.

Silver’s non-White coalition is losing control, sob.

Posted by Leon Haller on Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:25 | #

Thorn@10

Is that actually you, Midwestern Thorn, or someone else taking the moniker?

It is unfortunate that GW, a seemingly affable chap, has allowed his blog to deteriorate so. We have no right per se to tell GW how to run his site, but regulars at any website - ie, those who have invested substantial amounts of their time in the cyber-conversation - have earned the right at least to express their displeasure when editorial action (or, in this case I think, inaction) is causing the site to peter out (rather like the West ...).

It’s frustrating when the Powers That Be refuse to defend the borders; it’s maddening when they prevent others from doing so in their place.

Re DanielS: please summarize for me just one of his “pretty darned effective arguements [sic] on behalf of WN”.

Posted by DanielS on Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:51 | #

Leon, if you cannot (refuse to) see important points and arguments in my posts (honestly, you seek one, while I would need time to catalog them), and on the other hand, you find them impossible to ignore and turn your suffered attention to useful discussion to be generated from the posts of others, you may find a home at Occidental Dissent.

Hunter Wallace is a good writer and has more affinity with you.

Posted by Thorn on Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:37 | #

No it’s me, Leon.

I just think it was in bad taste for Silver to take the opportunity to kick MR when it’s at its lowest point in the site’s history. But on second thought maybe he is justified. However I’m going to give GW the benefit of the doubt and attribute his conspicuous absence to burn-out—hopefully it’s temporary. If so, it’s understandable; after all, when one puts so much time and energy into a project or proposition only to arrive at the point of realization that it hasn’t accrued any appreciable progress towards the objective, I can imagine that feeling could be very deflating ... to say the least.

Posted by DanielS on Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:59 | #

Jesus welcomes you to Occidental Dissent as well, Thorn. Undoubtedly at a highpoint of history LOL.

Posted by Thorn on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 01:09 | #

Danny, you sacriligious twit.

Don’t you know that no movement can succeed without God at its core?

Obviously you do not.

Maybe you should cry on GW’s shoulder.

He has plenty of crying towels… including the one he, himself, so often crys in….......

Posted by Leon Haller on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 09:29 | #

Thorn,

I agree lack of WP success is always deflating. Each generation goes through it. The racial decline of our people, though with extensive antecedents (eg, Radical Reconstruction, Europeans’, especially dbag French, race-liberality extended toward Negro servicemen in WW1, immediate postwar military integration), began in earnest in the late 50s. WPs have now been fighting for over a half-century - two generations - with absolutely not an iota of real world legislative success.

Of course, the same thing can be said of free marketers, at least in the US. The quality and extent of economic (as with WP) understanding is greater than at any time since the New Deal. Never before have so many persons had such a deep understanding of free markets. Never since the creation of the Fed have so many called for its abolition. Never have so many Americans understood the disaster of immigration and Diversity. And yet, all of those awakened souls dwell ‘underground’. Immigration is worse than ever, the Fed more disruptive than ever, government larger and more intrusive than ever, even though the merits of liberty, and demerits of Diversity, have never been so plain to see, and so widely seen.

Does this signify anything? I don’t know. Recall my constant refrain, lifted from the “godfather” WP work, The Dispossessed Majority: ripening harvest / encroaching jungle. Which will win? I honestly do not know. But we do know our racial duty, as also our Christian one (the former is in fact a subset, I believe, of the latter), and that should be enough to keep us marching forward as best we can.

PS - I was serious. Please, Thorn, go ahead and summarize one of DanielS’s arguments which you have found convincing. You may find the task a hard one (and not because of any deficiency on your part).

Posted by DanielS on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 12:53 | #

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We see what you are tying to do, Leon. You are trying to discourage people and prescribe passivity. You have been doing that for a while. You also prescribe the faux conservatism of Christianity and Austrian school economics in an effort to make WN’s easily controlled. It won’t work.

Still, you might be more comfortable at Occidental Dissent, where they try to accommodate those who wish to accommodate those things as they have been of recent “tradition”, European.

Deeper people recognize them as non-European affectations imposed upon European culture in fairly recent times.

Haller says PS - I was serious. Please, Thorn, go ahead and summarize one of DanielS’s arguments which you have found convincing. You may find the task a hard one (and not because of any deficiency on your part).

As I very was serious, Haller: to do that would require a catalog over a few years now. I am convinced, Haller, that you are not only unhelpful, not only a diversion, but dishonest, a man of defective (bad) character.

But we do know our racial duty, as also our Christian one (the former is in fact a subset, I believe, of the latter), and that should be enough to keep us marching forward as best we can.

Rather than trying to fit this site into your dishonest, anachronistic, faux conservative template, that the growing awareness of which you speak recognizes as liberalism in fact, you would be better served elsewhere.

Here, we will triumph over you and your fundamental dishonesty.

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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:44 | #

Leon,

Yes we all agree that lack of success wrt WP is discouraging, but I was talking about GW in particular. I’m assuming he has come to the realization that the approach he’s been taking to counter the ongoing soft genocide of the White Race has been ineffective..

I believe it’s been ineffective for various reasons, but the central reason is you can’t BUILD a pro-White pro-life culture sans God at its core. Of course you can tear down a culture without God; the Frankfort School intellectuals proved that.

At any rate, I’m going to spend more time concentrating on my Catholic faith. That doesn’t mean I’m giving up on WP! Not at all. However, I sincerely believe the only way white people are going find their way out of this Divine retribution is to find their way back to the Church. I know you agree with that.

Lately I’ve been becoming a fan of both Ann Barhardt and Laura Wood—both devout Roman Catholics—some programing on EWTN too.

That said, I’ll leave you with a link to one of Miss B’s excellent podcast and associated essay.

Podcast: http://www.barnhardt.biz/2013/12/19/podcast-4-december-19-arsh-2013/

Pulchra Vera Essay link: http://www.barnhardt.biz/2013/02/

Posted by Leon Haller on Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:45 | #

Daniel,

As you prove yet again, in this exchange alone, you are either really weird, or too stupid for words.

Thorn,

Thanks for the links.

I agree re the importance of the Transcendent, though I think GW would as well. His problem is that he doesn’t believe in divinity, and so he’s left trying to devise a secular approximation of God, imputing Grand Meaning to a lot of word-play about “authenticity” and the like. Good luck with that. I think God is God, and that there is nothing divine outside of the Trinity, nor any ‘meaning’ except in relation to it. Anything not rooted in Trinitarian truth will always fail (though modern liberalism is especially maladaptive, even from its own secular/evolutionary perspective).

But note: in terms of WP and Western survival, our Church is sadly corrupted (and getting worse under Francis). Violent white supremacism is hardly compatible with the justice of Christ - but neither is PC mendacity or multicultural enviousness (egalitarian envy of an especially rancid type is at the core of multiculturalism, I am convinced). The true Christian position re race, etc, is, I believe, my own (as I hope to argue formally, in publication, someday).

The Christian has no warrant to aggress against or exploit others (as was the case with slavery, even if that was an ancient institution, one never actually condemned by Christ, and even though American slavery, contrary to various Hollywood propaganda, was comparatively mild, precisely, I suspect because most of the slaveholders were sincere white Christians). But he is also under no obligation to allow others to visit injustices upon himself. We must stand up for what is right, which includes justice and perpetuity for our people. And we must do so within the Church, which badly needs an ideological reformation to cleanse itself of liberal intellectual pollutants.

Posted by DanielS on Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:18 | #

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Posted by Leon Haller on January 15, 2014, 06:45 AM | #

As you prove yet again, in this exchange alone, you are either really weird, or too stupid for words.

Leon, perhaps I did over-estimate you in speculating that you might be some sort of asset having come here with disingenuous motives to render hapless any authentic organization of WNs,  trying to divert them instead into faux conservatism and (faux tradition even), i.e. liberalism.

I am prepared to believe that you are one who is paying the price of some unmerited fortune (that is to say, you were a bit spoiled by some good luck; not that you did not work and are wholly without merit, of course). The result is that you have not been compelled to think-through and find wanting some social customs, habits and traditions. That is to say, they have worked well enough for you and you somehow think that proves their correctness. It doesn’t. You have not been confronted bluntly enough with their flaws to drop them as the insufficient premises that the are.

I suppose what led me to consider that you might be some sort of asset here, come to instill diversion into hapless, traditional forms, is that you refuse to see the obvious. That this is a site for free thinking WN’s.

Majority Rights is very important as it provides White nationalists a platform which recognizes native European nationalists as in-group, Jews and other non-Whites as out-group. At the same time it is not beholden to Christianity or Hitler.

That isn’t weird or stupid, that is normal and correct.

As for your disapproval of my posts and your unwillingness to consider that there might be significant matters to discuss there (absurd that you would try to suggest that, but oh well), I would think that just as with a particular column or section of a newspaper that you didn’t like or were not interested in, that you would just skip it.

Above that, on the editorial level, if you are demanding a site that sets Christianity as its guiding light, then this is the wrong place for you. Nobody is stopping you from going to a Catholic site or starting one.

It is crucially important that White Nationalists have recourse to a platform such as Majority Rights that allows for thinking beyond reverence for the rules of Hitler and Jesus.
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Posted by Bill on Tue, 05 Aug 2014 10:39 | #

Nigel Farage - shades of Rand Paul?

Is this Ukip’s future? - I think it’s already here.

Rand Paul is making the same transformation as he sets his sights above being the junior senator from Kentucky and positions himself as a contender for President. In order to appeal to corporate donors and ensure the support of the libertarians who comprise his national following, Senator Paul has made the strategic decision to abandon even implicitly white racial politics. Instead, he will run as a pure “Constitutional conservative,” mouthing platitudes about limited government while raking in donations from companies lusting for cheap labor. In the end, Rand Paul has become all but indistinguishable from Beltway Right hacks such as open-borders apologist Grover Norquist or corporate lobbyist Dick Armey.

In his journey from promise to pointlessness, Rand Paul occasionally talks like a Jacksonian nationalist, but his ideological core is by-the-numbers libertarianism. Not only does he not recognize whites as a group with collective interests, he doesn’t recognize America as a nation with interests. Instead, America is simply a place where deracinated, rights-bearing individuals live and compete with each other about who gets to make the most money. Although for electoral purposes Senator Paul had to give the nod to immigration restriction, his ideological core is being played out before our eyes–open borders, cheap labor, and utter indifference to the demographic makeup of the country.

This may actually understate Rand Paul’s uselessness. As shown in his nondefense of the principle of free association, whenever libertarianism conflicts with political correctness, Senator Paul bows to the latter. Though he said he would fire anyone proven to be a “white supremacist,” he has no problem speaking to racially collectivist groups of nonwhites. When there is pushback from the Left, Rand Paul retreats. The only targets libertarians feel free to attack are white conservatives.

Rand Paul, like the Beltway Right, sees cultural and racial trends as essentially fixed. Like weather patterns, they are beyond human control. Therefore, all Mr. Paul can do is try to carve out a niche for libertarianism in the areas permitted him by the media gatekeepers. Thus, he can talk about why libertarianism is good for blacks as a group, but not why it is good for whites. He can promote libertarian opposition to “racist” drug laws but not libertarian opposition to the forced-association consequences of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

http://www.amren.com/features/2013/12/white-renegade-of-the-year/

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