Nationalists and the train station at Kramatorsk

Posted by Guessedworker on Friday, 08 April 2022 10:25.

Yesterday the UN General Council voted by the required two-thirds majority to exclude the Russian Federation from the UN Human Rights Council. This morning the Kremlin’s reply landed at a train station in the Donbas - not one missile but two, and not a single-warhead but cluster munitions. Initial reports say thirty people were killed on the spot, and a further hundred injured. It is totally apparent from the personal items and clothing strewn about the place that this was not a military target. The local mayor has stated that there were some 4,000 civilians at the station at the time. The strikes were a perfectly clear statement to the effect that the Kremlin doesn’t give a damn about the safety and human rights of the people of the Donbas, never gave a damn about the safety and human rights of the people of the Donbas, and will break any and every moral boundary it pleases. Even to make a bitchy political point.

One awaits the first Western nationalist to explain that if only the UN General Council hadn’t been so aggressive in pushing Putin to the limits, those refugees might still be alive.

Well, three days ago the Spectator carried a piece on the massacre in Bucha. It referred to a remarkable article which had appeared in the state-owned, Russian-language news service RIA Novosti. The Spectator article was written by one-time resident in Putin’s fiefdom Christopher Booth. It set out the future of endless de-Nazification for Ukrainians in the Donbas and the south who cannot free themselves from Russian occupation and control. Of the Novosti article it says:

It speaks in detail of how Russia might achieve the ‘denazification’ of Ukraine – the first stated aim of the invasion.

The piece comes just as the Kremlin would have us believe that the goals of the so-called ‘special military operation’ have been recalibrated, and perhaps all will end in some sort of queasy compromise in the east of the country. In case you have fallen for this idea, here’s a quote from the RIA Novosti article in question:

“Apart from the Ukrainian leadership, a substantial part of the population is also guilty of being passively Nazi, and facilitators of Nazism. They supported the Nazi regime and urged it forward… The further denazification of the population will require re-training through ideological repression and fierce censorship, not only in the political sphere but also in the sphere of culture and education.”

The author goes on to say: ‘History teaches us that Ukraine cannot exist as a nation state’. Note – this was written less than a week ago. He recommends further that Ukrainian school textbooks be confiscated; that the population should be compelled to denounce one another for the greater good; that memorials to Russian soldiers should be erected to commemorate the war against Ukrainian fascism; and that ‘anti-Nazi’ commissions should be established in what remains of the country for at least 25 years.

So, a Russian propagandist writing in a state-owned Russian publication, giving advice that cannot be at odds with Kremlin thinking, is seeking a “de-Nazification” that is not at all restricted to the Azov Battalions but is code for a population-wide cleansing of “guilt”. This is precisely how the horrors of the Soviet Union proceeded. It explains what a survivor of Bucha told the Western media, namely, that the Russian soldiers were demanding where “the Nazis” were and, in some cases, stripping villagers in search of incriminating tattoos. Some of this behaviour has been ascribed to Chechens. But it is also ordinary Russian soldiers ordinarily brutalising and murdering people of their own accord, because such behaviour is, if not ordered, more or less given licence from above. Russian military operations have been that way in Chechnya and in Syria.

So we come to the matter of support among Western nationalists for Putin and the Russian military. For years now I’ve been referring to the borderline personality types who populate our world. These are people who are unable to “fit in” with the general Mind. But they are perfectly able to withstand all the hatreds that are visited upon nationalism, rather like bacteria in hospitals that survive the action of chemical cleaners. Our politics, therefore, is a natural home for these people. On the Spectator thread there was an explanatory comment by someone named Venk (evidently not a nationalist himself) which I found relevant:

It puzzled me too until I realized that their hatred for western elites has twisted their worldview. They loathe our leadership class and they admire Putin because he’s a strong-man alternative to woke green-obsessed liberal western elites. Unfortunately, they lack common sense and moderation, so they adopt a “see no evil” approach.

If the western media says it; it must be a lie. If Putin’s propagandists say it; it must be true. If Putin’s forces do something obviously evil, it must be a western lie or a justified action given the circumstances. It’s a bit like the trait psychologists call splitting in people with Borderline Personality Disorder.

They remind me a little of the Cambridge Five, upper class communists who hated our system so much they sided with the enemy. They managed to convince themselves that the USSR was the solution to Western shortcomings, and they either ignored evidence to the contrary or explained it away as a necessary evil on the path to the greater good.

I don’t think it’s a phenomenon that can be attributed to the left or the right, but to certain personality types who can’t process complex realities or balance the good and bad in any scenario.

One would hope that the missile strikes on Kramatorsk train station might cause some of these folk to think again. But for many, I think, the itch to attack “the West” and “the Jews” will be just too powerful, and they will go on, like the Russian propagandist who apparently wants the gulags back for the next twenty-five years, giving voice to the same certainties in fulfilment of the same emotional needs.

Tags: European Nationalism, Far Right, Geopolitics, Russian Politics, World Affairs

Comments:

Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 13:17 | #

The death toll is currently thirty-nine. The Russian government is denying the attack, which is a bit pointless since large parts of the missiles have survived.

The Donbas gambit is the end-game for Putin. He is trying to save his war and himself; but the momentum is simply not with his army - which, in any case, cannot perform effectively. Their equipment is not good enough. When it works it seems to be all too easy for the defenders to turn into a line of burnt-out death-traps. Logistics and re-supply have been very poor. Morale is rumoured to be low, as one would expect. If this period of re-grouping does not produce an early success for the Russian Army ... if, on the contrary, the West’s re-tooling of the Ukrainian forces enables a step-up, as it should, then pressure on those around Putin to depose him, and end the whole sorry disaster for the Russian elites, will only increase. Is there really another probable scenario at this quite amazing point in the contest?

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 13:47 | #

Two Tales Of A City

https://westernrifleshooters.us/2022/04/08/two-tales-of-a-city/

and

Interview with Scott Ritter about what happened in Bucha RT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bEBJODpbf8

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 15:12 | #

The main thing ppl should focus on is this war could have easily been avoided, but those who installed and control the puppet regime in Ukraine did not want to avoid war. They kept antagonising Russia until it finally happened. And the “they” I reffer to are western elites which, of course, comprise a disproportionate number of Jews. Victoria Nuland is one of those western elite Jews who’s in charge of pitting two white nations against each other.

Hopefully this war will end soon; but no one knows when this will end or how it will end. As of now, it’s expanding thus escalating. https://westernrifleshooters.us/2022/04/08/the-war-expands/

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 15:41 | #

REVEALED: Zelensky Was Offered a Peace Deal to Prevent War, But Rejected It

This may end up being one of the most extraordinary revelations of this entire conflict so far.

One of the main grievances Russia had with Ukraine was the fact that it was being groomed for NATO membership – a national security risk which Moscow deemed as completely unacceptable.

Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal revealed how German chancellor Olaf Scholz had offered Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky a peace deal only days before Russia launched its “Special Military Operations” in Ukraine on February 24th. But Zelensky turned down the deal – claiming that Putin couldn’t be trusted to keep his promises.

It turns out that Scholz was in the process of brokering a deal and told Zelensky during his visit to the Munich Security Conference on February 19th, “that Ukraine should renounce its NATO aspirations and declare neutrality as part of a wider European security deal between the West and Russia,” and that “the pact would be signed by Mr. Putin and Mr. Biden, who would jointly guarantee Ukraine’s security.”

Incredibly, Zelensky rejected the offer to make a concession by declaring NATO neutrality, and thus avoid a war with Russia, and claimed that, “Putin couldn’t be trusted to uphold such an agreement and that most Ukrainians wanted to join NATO.”

This revelation really exposes two key points.

Firstly, that as a head of state, Zelensky is either grossly incompetent or completely reckless to needlessly place his country on the path to war with its neighbour.

Secondly, it indicates the level of control that Washington has over his government, as he is being advised at every step of the way by the US State Department and CIA. It’s no secret that the US and UK have been egging-on Kiev to fight NATO’s war with Russia on their behalf – even if that means placing Kiev into an unwinnable position where it may end up having its armed forces completely destroyed, and Ukraine losing even more territory than it already has.

Maybe Zelensky could have defused tensions 6 months ago by disavowing NATO aspirations and declaring Ukraine a neutral state. Such a declaration would certainly be welcome by Russia today, but in light of the West’s continued proxy war against Moscow, and the US and UK-led campaign to ‘cancel’ Russia from the global economic and financial system, as well as media, culture and sport, then it’s safe to say things have moved on considerably from this being just a NATO issue.

All of this makes Zelensky more a liability than an asset for the future of Ukraine.

https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?page_id=10

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 15:43 | #

The treatment of national borders as relevant only when aggression is apparent is so puerile as to relegate the entire argument about support of this side or that laughable. The violation of national sovereignty by immigration that has been going on in the west for over a half century has so undermined the legitimacy of western civilization itself that to see mere bloody carcasses scattered about as a result of mere barbaric behavior is almost a relief.

To those who characterize as too-reductionist, the emphasis on Jewish virulence as necessary to the current state of affairs, I say, “Where were you when I was positing Chinese unrestricted warfare, amplifying Jewish virulence, as underlying the collapse of the west? Who benefits from this situation if not the Chinese?”

Don’t kid yourself. Devolution down to the individual military aged man is in the offing. Even the Sheriffs have been made creatures of the Federal Reserve. Below them, what is there but the man and his house? Your preacher? Get real…

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 20:47 | #

You’re going to love this, James:

[Thorn note: Of course, both Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas and Attorney General Merrick B. Garland are Jews]

HOMELAND SECURITY Published April 8, 2022 4:16pm EDT

Mayorkas says White supremacists pose ‘most prominent threat’ to US homeland
Mayorkas made the remarks during a surge of illegal border crossings

White supremacists pose the biggest terror threat to the United States, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said Friday amid a surge of illegal border crossings.

The Department of Homeland Security has assessed that “the greatest terrorism-related threat that we face in the homeland is the threat of domestic violent extremism,” Mayorkas said.

Citing an “increase in hate” that’s spread on social media and other online platforms, Mayorkas further specified that “the most prominent threat is the threat of White supremacists.”

Mayorkas made the remarks during a speech at Al Sharpton’s National Action Network conference in New York City. The secretary pointed to the “repeated and persistent bomb threats” against Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) in recent months as an example of the threats and talked of his recent work with Black universities and churches to improve security.

Both Mayorkas and Attorney General Merrick Garland previously said White supremacist extremists represent the most persistent and lethal threat to the homeland when they testified before the Senate last May. Mentioning the Jan. 6 attack at the Capitol, Mayorkas and Garland said their agencies would dedicate more resources to fight against domestic terrorism, create new intelligence initiatives and work with foreign partners and tech companies to help stem the growing threat, the Washington Post reported at the time.

Mayorkas’ threat assessment comes at a time of historically high illegal border crossings.

There were more than 1.7 million migrant encounters in FY 2021, and FY 2022 is on pace to exceed that, with what is expected to be more than 1 million encounters in the first six months of the fiscal year alone.

Border agents will lose another tool in May when the Biden Administration ends the Title 42 public health order that has been used since March 2020 to quickly expel a majority of migrants at the border due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Mayorkas reaffirmed Friday that Title 42 is going away, and migrants will be able to claim asylum.

“Our asylum laws provide that if one qualifies, one can access residency in the United States,” Mayorkas said. “And if one does not, one can be removed. In the time of the pandemic, we have been exercising Title 42.

“It is a public health imperative, not an immigration policy. … Title 42 will end on May 23 as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has expressed, and then we will be implementing our asylum process as it was designed.”

Fox News’ Adam Shaw contributed to this report.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mayorkas-white-supremacists-poise-most-prominent-threat

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 23:32 | #

No disrespect to you, GW. But I’d bet a dollar-to-a-donut this Venk commentor is a gaslighting cultural-Marxist.

Posted by Thorn on Sat, 09 Apr 2022 22:24 | #

[...]

‘Beware Of Going Where The Bolsheviks Once Planned To Go’

In his speech, Putin, who considers history as a key element for shaping Russia’s new ideology, actually states:

“Where are the humanitarian fundamentals of Western political thought? … What are the general ethical limits in the world where the potential of science and machines are becoming almost boundless? … Some people in the West believe that an aggressive elimination of entire pages from their own history, ‘reverse discrimination’ against the majority in the interests of a minority, and the demand to give up the traditional notions of mother, father, family and even gender, they believe that all of these are the mileposts on the path towards social renewal.

https://www.memri.org/reports/russias-new-conservative-ideology-counter-liberalism

RTWT

https://www.memri.org/reports/russias-new-conservative-ideology-counter-liberalism

Gee, I wonder why so may nationalists support Putin.

Posted by Thorn on Sat, 09 Apr 2022 22:25 | #

many not may

Posted by Thorn on Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:29 | #

TPTB will move heaven and earth (read: rig the election) to make sure LePen loses. But what a pleasant and stunning surprise it’ll be if she wins!!

The White House is freaked out that Putin’s next big win could be in Paris

If Russia apologist Marine LePen wins the French elections, Washington fears she could unravel the Western NATO alliance.
The White House has begun to harbor fears that Vladimir Putin could soon notch his biggest victory of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine — in Paris.

There is growing concern within President Joe Biden’s administration about the narrowing polls in the French presidential election that show a tight race between incumbent Emmanuel Macron and far-right challenger Marine Le Pen.

A possible victory by Le Pen, a Putin sympathizer, could destabilize the Western coalition against Moscow, upending France’s role as a leading European power and potentially giving other NATO leaders cold feet about staying in the alliance, according to three senior administration officials not authorized to publicly discuss private conversations.

Senior U.S. officials have warily watched across the Atlantic for any signs of possible Russian interference in the first round of the elections, which will take place Sunday. Polls suggest that Macron and Le Pen would likely then advance to a showdown on April 24 — and that the potential two-person race would be close.

Le Pen, in her third attempt at the presidency, has surged over the past couple of weeks, as she has toned down some of her notoriously incendiary rhetoric to focus on cost-of-living issues. Millions in France are struggling to make ends meet after a 35 percent surge in gas prices over the past year.

Her resume deeply worries the White House.

Though Le Pen styles herself a benign populist, her campaign platform on immigration and Islam are still radical, with plans to ban the veil from all public places and stop foreigners from enjoying the same rights as French citizens. Her surname, in certain circles, is synonymous with racism and xenophobia — she now fronts the far-right, anti-immigration party her father founded. And she has been an unabashed admirer of Putin, whom she met in Moscow in 2017. Though she has somewhat distanced herself from the Russian president since the invasion of Ukraine, she has spoken sympathetically of Putin’s rationale for war and rejected some of the Western coalition’s hard-line measures against Russia.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/08/white-house-putin-paris-00024054

Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 12 Apr 2022 07:54 | #

Slowly, the “smash the West at all cost” factions among us, whose many defences of Putin’s war I observe daily on US and UK sites, are coming to the realisation that things are not quite as they so wanted them to be, and maybe it’s best for the moment to quietly gloss over Russian Army excesses and failures and what-have-you and not deny them or spout off every five minutes about Putin bravely and skilfully and perfectly honourably putting down not Ukrainian civilians but NATO, Jews and Jewish Money, the European Union and, of course, the hated “West”.

Hence, although we were treated to the early claims that the Bucha massacre must, I mean absolutely must have been staged for the Western media, that sort of statement is much rarer now. Certainly, after Dan Rivers’ report for ITN yesterday:

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-04-11/three-war-crimes-in-bucha-which-reflect-russias-senseless-murders-in-ukraine

... I can’t find any Brits trying to continue the claim that it’s all just a production.

True, there are a few brave souls trying to claim this morning that the possible use by Russians of chemical weapons in Mariupol is a “false flag”. But if the attack is confirmed that claim, too, will become untenable in due course.

All that’s really left seems to be the entirely personal conviction that the brave, based Putineers of the alt-media are in possession of “the truth” while the rest of us are just too staid and weak-minded to think outside the box like them. We have been propagandised and lied to, you see. They, however, possess a special historical knowledge of the evil West in Ukraine ... y’know, how it is forever cunningly seeking to bring down Vlad the Just, Vlad the Wise, poor threatened Vlad, for no good reason at all. They see everything. All the false flags and the media games and Western geo-strategies. And they know the real value of everything Putin ...“the enemy of our enemy” ... is doing to free the oppressed Russian people of the Donbas and to fight off the Jew-funded Azov “Nazis” and their “joke president of Jewkraine”. Etcetera, etcetera.

The Russian way of war will kill off all their arrogance, all their tawdry certainties before too long.

Posted by Thorn on Tue, 12 Apr 2022 11:22 | #

If you’ve followed the sequence of events since the CIA backed color revolution in 2014, it’s clear the war in Ukraine was part of a masterplan designed to eventually subsume Russia and make it a part of the globalist system.

In any event, why Putin was so foolish to invade Ukraine and not foresee his army would be ripped to shreds is beyond me ... not to mention all the economic ramifications that’d be rained down on his economy.

The biggest concern at this point is the war escalating to the point of going nuclear. Lest we forget, early on, both sides have threatened to use nuclear weapons.

Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 12 Apr 2022 13:21 | #

How is an individual cursed with an intuitive grasp of Salterian calculus of ethnic genetic interests to relate to people who find the Ukraine situation to be worthy of much attention if not worthy of hysterical reaction? Mass immigration, under that calculus, dwarfs any atrocities being committed by any government’s military, including targeting civilians with anitpersonnel weapons, chemical, biological and even nuclear weapons. Those of us who have even begun to process the absolute horror of the last half century’s relentlessly increasing immigration rates, fertility destruction rates (preferentially targeting the best and the brightest), sexual humiliation, degradation and perversion, media portrayals of our protectors of hearth and homeland as the worst among us, and the rest of the Jewish-mind’s perspective imposed on our peoples, simply can’t be bothered to care about any of the things that drive our kin into mass hysterics. These hysterics are the opiate of the masses inuring them to the reality of this “civilization”. We would like to reach them and help them to also begin to process our trauma, but part of our trauma is that we’ve been deprived of the necessary resources, including the honor — the moral territory — to reach them. Compounding this deprivation is now the perversion of the phrase “honor culture” to impugn the honor of the very word “honor”, depriving us of the foundation of any kind of “moral community”: moral territory.

Posted by Thorn on Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:51 | #

Phase 2 of Russia’s “special military operations” is shaping up—namely the battle in the Donbas region.

Scott Ritter and The Battle of the Donbas
143,198 views Streamed live on Apr 11, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5RKNoIhE40

Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:45 | #

Thorn, Putin isn’t fighting globalism. He is a revanchist imperialist himself. If he is opposing Western power and Western expansionism he is doing it not defensively but by being expansionist himself. He is, therefore, manifestly not on the side of peoples of the soil. He isn’t your friend. He’s not on your side. He’s not on the side of ordinary Americans or Brits or anybody anywhere but himself. In the context of his war for historical glory, it is the Ukrainian people who are your side. You don’t “fight the CIA” by neglecting them, and you don’t “fight the CIA” by supporting Putin’s FSS. You don’t fight the American Jew Victoria Nuland by cheering on the half-Jew Russian Oligarch who owns the Wagner Group mercenaries (who are the “Russian separatists” in Donetsk and Luhansk, btw) as they fight the Jewish Ukrainian Oligarch owned Azov battalions.

There are no moral distinctions here but that of the life and rights and interests of the native people.

When I see all these articles and videos excusing Russian bestiality on the basis of the “justice” of frustrating Western expansionism, I wonder what on earth is so wrong about the geopolitics of Western expansionism in the first place. Why shouldn’t the West corner Russia, restrict Russia? Why should Ukrainians be a subject nation to the Kremlin if, actually, the people desire otherwise? What, anyway, makes Russian borders so sacred? Does “secure borders” give Russia a special moral right to conduct “special military operations” in Chechnya and Georgia and Ukraine, and rape and kill and take what it wants so the Russian Federation is that much more imperial? What then? Lithuania, Latvia?

No, the matter is perfectly clear. The will of the victim people is the high principle. Nothing else. All you guys who have been seduced by the faux-sanctity of Russia’s borders haven’t asked the fundamental questions. Probably because your first impulse is to despise your own elites; which as I have explained multiple times is not a basis for the positive politics which we nationalists seek.

Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:27 | #

James, Thorn’s argument, like many others, is that riding Putin’s destructive energy disaccommodates the Western elites, and their disaccommodation, minimal though it may be, advances our EGI (let’s stick with Salter’s concept). As I have tried to explain, the causal flow here in that scenario is top to bottom, but there are no clear and reliable links in the causal chain to produce the outcome we desire.

Contrary to this, my argument all along has been that our salvation comes from our sense of kin and belonging ... that one has to have the foundation in place so that the causal flow runs in the right revolutionary direction, and so that something predictably vivifying can materialise when dawn arrives. So the native principle is the key issue in Ukraine or anywhere else, including in America with its founder stock.

I suppose a lot of critics of our age just don’t see our collective existential condition or even believe that anything at all is required beyond the usual aggressive desiderata of WN. This brings us to inevitability and isostasy as the defining characteristics of their expectations. We should be aiming for historical agency, and that does not arise from wishful thinking and intellectual irresponsibility.

Posted by Thorn on Tue, 12 Apr 2022 20:52 | #

GW, I see Putin defending Russia against Western dominance be it in the cultural, political, militarily or economic sense. I don’t believe he is a revanchist imperialist either. And yes, I know he’s not on my side, but I think he has valid reasons for invading Ukraine ... and if any territory expansion is to be gained it will be the Donbas region and possibly a land bridge to Crimea.

We shouldn’t lose sight of the fact the USA’s meddling in Ukraine’s domestic politics set the course of the inevitability of a Russian invasion. For 8 years I casually watched the tension build between Russia and the USA over issue revolving around and within Ukraine. During that time period Russian diplomats made every effort to avoid this war only to be met with defiance. The main thing Russia was pleading for is Ukraine to not join NATO, to remain neutral. But the USA and the UK, along with other western nations, ignored and-or rejected Russia’s concerns; instead, they went on plowing ahead with their agenda of making Ukraine a NATO member state and eventually an EU member. And all the while, reliable sources report the Ukraine armed forces were continuously attacking and killing the ethnic Russians living in the Donbass region. Add it all up and IMHO, Russia was threatened beyond the point where it could no longer sit idle. Diplomacy failed. So apparently from their perspective, it was fight or surrender.

I don’t believe Putin is necessarily after self-aggrandizement. I don’t believe he has ambitions or visions of reconstituting the old Soviet Empire either. I do believe Putin believes he’s doing what’s best for the long-term interests of Russians. For that particular part of the bloody mess, I do have a bit of admiration for the man.

In the meantime, we’re left trying our best to penetrate through the thick fog of fake-news and propaganda and sort out the truth from lies. So much misinformation coming from all sides!

Posted by James Bowery on Tue, 12 Apr 2022 22:30 | #

GW, if your point is that we should be approaching things from “bottom up” in the sense of laying foundational thinking, how does it serve us to embroil one’s self in the fog of war—particularly hot war—wherein we can all rest assured that any remaining civility in our polity is going to be utterly overwhelmed by a relentless stream of propaganda?

Doesn’t your point that “we should be aiming for historical agency” demand that you not have your energies so-diverted?

Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 00:13 | #

James, as you correctly stated earlier we are already embroiled in a war against an enemy with genocidal intent. We have no need of another. That said, the Ukraine war is interesting for a number of reasons, but chief among them for me, anyway, is the revelation that my general thesis of our missing philosophy has been demonstrated by “nationalists” everywhere. I thought I knew them as I know myself, but I find that I do not know them at all, and cannot know them; for knowing ... knowing their mind ... would necessarily be by the medium of a shared Idea; and we have none. That is what has been exposed in all the reactions to Ukraine, and it is a source of sorrow to me. I take it to mean that I am right, but also that it will be much harder than ever I imagined to bring these arrogant, angry people to the point where they may know themselves and, thus, one another.

Posted by Thorn on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:40 | #

What matters is whose set of facts carry more weight; moreover, whose set of facts squares with reality. One side makes the case that the invasion was provoked; the other side says it was completely unprovoked.

Putin explains Russian military’s plan in Ukraine

Russian president told reporters that it is determined by the intensity of hostilities

The timing of the military offensive in Ukraine is determined by the intensity of hostilities and Russia will act according to its plan, President Vladimir Putin explained on Tuesday, during a joint press conference with his Belarusian counterpart Alexander Lukashenko.

“I often get these questions, ‘can’t we hurry it up?’ We can. But it depends on the intensity of hostilities and, any way you put it, the intensity of hostilities is directly related to casualties,” said the Russian president.

He added that “our task is to achieve the set goals while minimizing these losses. We will act rhythmically, calmly, and according to the plan that was initially proposed by the General Staff.”

Putin reiterated that Russia’s actions in several regions of Ukraine were intended only to tie down enemy forces and carry out missile strikes with the purpose of destroying the Ukrainian military’s infrastructure, so as to “create conditions for more active operations on the territory of Donbass.”

While thanking the Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine for their “heroic service to their homeland,” and for protecting Russia’s interests, Putin stated that “a confrontation with the forces that were being brought up by the West in Ukraine, a confrontation with radical nationalists and neo-Nazis in Ukraine, was inevitable” and that it was only a matter of time.

“They were preparing and waiting for their hour. And, as I’ve said, we aren’t going to let them do that. That’s the logic of our actions,” the Russian president explained, adding that seeing Ukrainian soldiers wearing SS Galicia patches –a division of the Nazi forces that were responsible for numerous slaughters of Russian, Jewish, Ukrainian and Polish civilians during WWII)– in Donbass only further proves that “the timing of Russia’s operation was correct, or else there would’ve been even more of them.”

Putin also recalled what he had stated in his initial message on the morning of February 24 when Russian forces crossed the borders of Ukraine: “Our goal is to provide aid to the people of Donbass, who feel an unbreakable bond with Russia and have been the subjects of genocide for eight years.”

“That’s the way it is. The operation is going according to plan.” the Russian president proclaimed.

Moscow attacked the neighboring state in late February, following Ukraine’s failure to implement the terms of the Minsk agreements signed in 2014, and Russia’s eventual recognition of the Donbass republics of Donetsk and Lugansk. The German- and French-brokered Minsk Protocol was designed to give the breakaway regions special status within the Ukrainian state.

Russia has since demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join the US-led NATO military bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked and has denied claims it was planning to retake the two republics by force.

https://www.rt.com/russia/553768-putin-ukraine-operation-timing/

Note: Putin’s remarks match those that Scott Ritter expresses in the interview I posted @14

Posted by Thorn on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:19 | #

Off topic,

Professor Wax drops truth bombs. What’s so remarkable is it’s a very rare occurrence to witness a semi-prominent figure state in public what’s been freakin’ obvious for an eon now. Will the fact she’s Jewish exempt her from being canceled? I very much doubt it. She’s being subject to relentless attacks on Twitter.

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Penn Law professor Amy Wax tells Tucker Carlson that “Blacks” and other “non-western” groups harbor “resentment, shame, and envy” against western people for their “outsized achievements and contributions.”

Wax then attacks Indian immigrants for criticizing things in the US when “their country is a shithole” and goes on to say that “the role of envy and shame in the way that the third world regards the first world [...] creates ingratitude of the most monstrous kind.”

Watch: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1513561069070999553.html

Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 13:53 | #

Thorn, if you are going to rely on facts why, a couple of months before the invasion, did Putin publish a long essay explaining that Ukraine is really not a country in its own right but an accident of history, and is really Russian?

If you are going to rely on principle, and not on reaction or utilitarianism, then you might explain what it is.

Wax seems to be an American Melanie Phillips:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Wax

... one of the small band of Jewish academics and writers who, one suspects, think that the loss of European culture is not good for Jews.

Posted by Thorn on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 14:03 | #

Here’s some excellent pro-Russia propaganda. It effectively counters anti-Russian propaganda.

Does the West want war with Russia?

April 12, 2022 80 Comments
By Michael Antony for the Saker Blog

The horrific series of mass atrocities being carried out by the Ukrainians to put the blame on Russia and get more weapons sent to them is escalating at an alarming rate. The Mariupol Maternity Hospital fake bombing, and the fake bombing of the Mariupol Drama Theatre (both of them exposed by refugees from Mariupol, including the pregnant young lady used as a fake victim by Azov who has gone home to Donetsk and told everything) have been followed by extremely serious war crimes. The massacre of pro-Russian “collaborators” by Nazi extremist members of the security police as they “cleansed” Bucha two days after the Russian troops left, and the Tochka-U rocket attack on Kramatorsk train station have brought the death toll to several hundred. Zelensky has announced there are more horrors to come, which means his thugs have already carried out more massacres. What do MI6 and the CIA hope to achieve by pushing their Nazi puppets into this campaign of false flag war crimes?

Boris Johnson’s appeal to the Russian people to find out about these atrocities from Western media and learn what their government is doing is an extraordinary display of self-deception, self-delusion or cynical Machiavellian lying. Does he really think the Russian people can be convinced (as his own sheeple have been) that the Russian army shoots civilians (who are wearing pro-Russian white armbands in a sign of support for the Russian soldiers) and then leaves their bodies lying in the middle of main roads so they can be used by the enemy for propaganda? [...]

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(Because our ruling-class —particularly in the Anglosphere—has a long track-record of lying its way into wars, it’s perfectly understandable why nationalists would find the content of the article so believable.)

Posted by Thorn on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 14:08 | #

GW, can you provide the essay so I can see that context of his explanation?

Posted by Thorn on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 14:37 | #

”...one of the small band of Jewish academics and writers who, one suspects, think that the loss of European culture is not good for Jews.”

Perhaps, but that doesn’t discount the truth she stated.

GW, for 30 years I worked with, for and supervised blacks. IOWs I have a whole lot of experience studying what makes them tick. Early on in my experience a question dawned on me: How do blacks process the fact that virtually everything that surrounds them—planes, trains, automobiles etc.etc.—was created or invented by men of European descent? The answer I arrived at is it must really play negative on their psyche. Hence it engenders jealousy and envy which manifests in suppressed hatred for those they envy. Too often that suppressed hatred erupts in all manner of violence. To remedy blacks’ feelings of inferiority and rage, the inteligensia makes elaborate excuses for why blacks’ lack of intellectual capacity thus we all get CRT shoved down our throats.

At any rate, kudos to Amy Wax for having the courage to state the truth.

Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:42 | #

This appears to be the essay, actually published 7 months before the invasion:

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

To reiterate the question of principle among those who support the Kremlin’s action, either there is one there, beyond the reaction and utilitarianism, or there isn’t. I don’t believe there is. Further, I believe that even as reaction and utilitarianism there is no thought given to how a Russian victory translates into an advantage for nationalists across the West; and, of course, there is no advantage. But that doesn’t matter to the pro-Putin faction because the only goal is to poke the Western elites and the Jewish elites in the eye.

Posted by Thorn on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:49 | #

I can only speak for myself, GW. What irks me about the invasion is the USA created the conditions/provocations which compelled Russia to invade. Moreover, I believe the USA designed those provocations for the purpose of compelling the Russian invasion. When I see all the killing and suffering, I can’t help but think of U.S. complicity.

Obviously, the war is a lose-lose situation for the white race.

The pitting of Russia against Ukraine is actually a proxy war between the USA and Russia whereas the USA is using US supplied and trained Ukranian forces in an attempt to defeat the Russian army. It’s been reported that the Ukrainian forces are being provided real-time satellite images showing Russian troop and equipment movements. This gives the Ukrainians the time to set-up ambushes. You may think that’s a good thing, right? But the consequences will provoke Russian escalation. How far that escalation goes, and what ghastly form it takes, remains to be seen.
Again, I regard this war as a provocation by the USA ... and to a lesser degree, the UK. IMO, that’s where the lion’s share of the blame lies. My opinion is not isolated; it’s shared by half the world’s population. Of course, that doesn’t prove I’m right, it just proves there are several different perspectives.

What’s so damned frustrating is this war could have easily been avoided but the USA is not an honest player. Apparently, the USA is using Ukraine as a means to weaken Russia to the point of Putin regime collapse. A Putin regime collapse, I believe, would open up unfettered access to woke western elites. In that event, soon-there-after there’d be gay disco bars filled with Soros’ NGO employees on every other corner of Moscow. lol

Speaking of different perspectives, here’s a good read: https://thesaker.is/does-the-west-want-war-with-russia/

Posted by Thorn on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:51 | #

Obviously, the war is a lose-lose situation for the white race.

Speaking of several perspectives, here a good read: Does the West want war with Russia?

Posted by Thorn on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:55 | #

Obviously, the war is a lose-lose situation for the white race.

Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 21:18 | #

So, for what, exactly, do you hold the Russians accountable?

Posted by Thorn on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 22:16 | #

“So, for what, exactly, do you hold the Russians accountable?”

I’m not being flippant here but taking into account all the disinformation and misinformation we’re all constantly being subjected to, I honestly can’t give you a well-informed answer. IOWs, I’m not in any position to discern the difference between the MSM’s truth and deception. Ergo, at this point in time, it’d be foolish of me to assign any sort of accountability. When the war ends, wouldn’t it be wise to leave it up to the attorneys to sort it all out?

Posted by Guessedworker on Wed, 13 Apr 2022 22:26 | #

Do you believe that Russian forces have attacked the civilian population, flattening whole cities by bombardment, executing non-combatants, employing torture in some cases, mass rape, and kidnap of upwards of a hundred thousand Ukrainians to distant camps in the Russian heartland? Do you believe that the Ukrainian people are innocent of blame in all this? Or do you believe that the Ukrainian people should just be consigned to their hell because of the Americans and Jews and the Ukrainian government? Or do you think that the Ukrainians must be helped to survive this as wholly as humanly possible, and actually none of the rest ... the geopolitical power stuff ... matters by comparison?

Posted by Thorn on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 00:03 | #

Not really.

Do you believe that the Ukrainian people are innocent of blame in all this?

Of course.

“Or do you believe that the Ukrainian people should just be consigned to their hell because of the Americans and Jews and the Ukrainian government?”

HUH?

Or do you believe that the Ukrainian people should just be consigned to their hell because of the Americans and Jews and the Ukrainian government?

HUH? again.

“Or do you think that the Ukrainians must be helped to survive this as wholly as humanly possible, and actually none of the rest ... the geopolitical power stuff ... matters by comparison?”

What?

Posted by Thorn on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 00:26 | #

To be clear, I feal sorry for what’s happening to the innocent Ukrainian People.

Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 07:54 | #

I am examining what you think and why. Let us clarify the questions:

So, on what grounds other than prejudice towards the Ukrainian government and the Western governments and media do you disbelieve that Russian forces have attacked the civilian population, flattening whole cities by bombardment, executing non-combatants, employing torture in some cases, mass rape, and kidnap of upwards of a hundred thousand Ukrainians to distant camps in the Russian heartland?

What do you think should be done by Western governments to help the Ukrainian people defeat the Russian Army? Or do you believe they should just be left to the disposal of the Russians? If the latter, why?

Is the higher value on Ukrainian soil (a) defeating “the West” or (b) preserving the life and autonomy of the Ukrainian people?

Posted by Thorn on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:53 | #

Allow me to speak to your questions this way,

If the CIA, Soros, et al not orchestrated the color revolution of 2014 then subsequently installed a puppet regime to their liking, would the invasion of Ukraine by Russia be occurring?

Even after the color revolution the French and German mediated Minsk Protocol were in place but Zelenski rejected it. Had he accepted and abided by the terms would Russia have invaded?

This war could have easily been avoided but the corrupt puppet Zelenski regime wouldn’t budge an inch. Instead he allowed the murderous attacks on the ethnic Russians living in the Donbas region to continue.

If Zelenski wants to preserve the life and autonomy of the Ukrainian people he would abide by the Minsk agreements and vow that Ukraine will not join NATO thus remain a neutral country. IOWs Zelenski should surrender, go to the negotiating table and work out a peace deal. That seems to be the only way Russia will back off.

Posted by Thorn on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 12:52 | #

Obviously the USA wants to prolong the bloodshed and destruction for as long as they can. You don’t have to be a genius to see this will result in a major escalation. Of course, the result of the escalation will translate into untold numbers of dead and-or maimed Europeans.

(BTW, GW, what are your thoughts about Marine Le Pen’s stance on the war? My point of view pretty much aligns with hers.)

Biden announces $800 million in new aid after Zelensky plea

BY BRETT SAMUELS - 03/16/22 1:20 PM ET

President Biden on Wednesday announced new military assistance for Ukraine that will include anti-aircraft defenses, drones and other weaponry, offering fresh U.S. support in the wake of an urgent plea from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Biden announced $800 million in new assistance for Ukraine, which, paired with $200 million authorized over the weekend, brings the total new aid for the country to $1 billion over the past week.

The new aid will help provide 800 anti-aircraft systems to combat Russian planes; 9,000 anti-armor systems to help destroy Russian tanks and armored vehicles; 7,000 small arms such as machine guns and shotguns; and a total of 20 million rounds that includes artillery and mortar.

“I want to be honest with you: this could be a long and difficult battle,” Biden said.

more….

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/598454-biden-announces-800-million-in-new-aid-after-zelensky-plea/

Posted by Thorn on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:24 | #

POLITICS

From Paris to Karachi – Regime Change is In the Air

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It seems the only guy not in some kind of political trouble is the one person supposedly suffering the most, Vladimir Putin. A few weeks ago I asked the question whether Putin was destined to drown or hang over his refusal to bow to the West.

Putin knows he’s been pushed into this by people who are powerful but psychologically small. And the Russian people have been deeply disrespected to the point of war. That’s why his poll numbers rise while Bidens’ barely budge.

That all leads to regime change as the end-game because it may be the only option, which implies continued escalation to the point of something unthinkable.

That something unthinkable is what Robert Kagan, husband to Victoria Nuland, thinks is worth getting rid of Putin over, nuclear conflict with Russia.

Kagan knows that Putin, for all of the issues he’s navigating now, is in no worse a position than he was six weeks ago. The Russian people are lining up to fight in Ukraine, his popularity hasn’t been this high since reunification with Crimea and he’s begun the process of reversing the nothing for something global monetary order having tied the ruble to gold and, by extension, all commodity trading worldwide.

But it seems now, with the surrender of most of the Azov forces in Mariupol and the Russians massing a huge force to roll over the rest of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the next few weeks in the Donbass, a small dose of reality is beginning to filter into the minds of neocons and Davos.

When they send out a CFR Senior Fellow to write a massive apologia for a return to realpolitik for the New York Times (link to a non-paywalled version of the story here) you know we are now beginning to look at the costs of escalating this conflict any further.

The right move here for everyone is to get back to the bargaining table, accept the fact that the Great Reset has failed and live with the idea that to survive what damage has already been done to the global economy and humanity itself, post-COVID, is already an Herculean task which doesn’t need regime change on a mass scale but the barest modicum of humility to let sane minds begin the rebuilding.

Sadly, I don’t think that is the most likely outcome.

RTWT

https://tomluongo.me/2022/04/13/paris-karachi-regime-change-in-the-air/

Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 17:47 | #

I’m curious as to GW’s opinion on the counterfactual world in which the United States had entered neither WW I, nor WW II. Would the EGI of Europe’s peoples have been less respected? Would Ukranian EGI be better respected if under Russian domination than if under Western domination?

In the present instance, it is likely impossible to withdraw support for Ukraine, because that support is out of control of any apex predator and the mesopredators are utterly rampant, driven by female psychology’s swarming behavior in response to empathetic triggers. It’s just such helplessness in the face of these forces that drives people to further mass hysteria, time after time with the resulting destruction of our respective EGIs. It is therefore most critical to get to the root of the problem. If that problem is the foundation being addressed by GW’s project, then get to it.

Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:59 | #

You want to know what Elon Musk is _really_ doing in his attempt to take over Twitter? Watch this video and read what I say about social media swarming attacks.

This video is a great example of what John Robb calls a “social media empathetic trigger”: Rescue of scared puppy, with the narration that Putin caused this. I’m a 99th percentile dog person. Seeing this really tears me up. So I’m probably _feeling_ as strongly about this as most girls. But girls (of both sexes and all ages) are threatening us with nuclear annihilation because they are particularly prone to letting their emotions overtake their rational faculties. You simply can’t permit such people to “moderate” social media platforms in a modern technological civilization. The swarms they inflict on the world result from emotions short-circuiting their ability to think rationally about ultimate vs proximate causes.
Putin may be a proximate cause of what I feel so strongly about seeing this.

The ultimate cause? Well it is a lot more accurate to pin the blame on the Untied States.

Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:52 | #

If the CIA, Soros, et al not orchestrated the color revolution of 2014 then subsequently installed a puppet regime to their liking, would the invasion of Ukraine by Russia be occurring?

If you deprecate the USA neocons for enabling the overthrow of the Kremlin puppet Yanukovych in 2014, then you must deprecate the will of Ukrainians themselves to be a free people and not merely a Russian satellite. The determining value for you is that the Kremlin has the power and empire it craves. If the Kremlin isn’t happy, you’re not happy.

So what happens next? Will you draw a line at Moldova, which is generally considered to be Putin’s next target (on the premise that Transnistria is a Russian interest)? Is the Kremlin’s power interest really a higher value for you than the will to freedom of the Moldovans? How about the Baltic states? Should their peoples be free or should they be given over to Russian expansionism too? Because none of these possibilities would have been at all unlikely had the Special Military Operation triumphed in the three or four days that Moscow expected. Saying there must be peace ... saying “this war could easily have been avoided if only Zelensky etc etc” is to say “this war could easily have been avoided if only the Ukrainian people would be content to live under Russia’s fat arse.” Well, they’re not. Where is your line to be drawn?

Making it about Zelensky:

If Zelenski wants to preserve the life and autonomy of the Ukrainian people he would abide by the Minsk agreements ...

... is to fall into the geopolitical trap. We are not geopoliticians. We are nationalists. The choice for us is simple and is the people’s will to freedom and autonomy.

That seems to be the only way Russia will back off.

The Ukrainians are winning. They have defeated the northern invasion. By sinking the Orsk and the Moskva they have defeated the Russian Black Sea Navy. The 200,000 Russian conscripts now expected to invade in the east are demoralised. Their equipment has been exposed as inadequate. They will be met by a force of 200,000 Ukrainian Army veterans and reserves, armed by the US and UK and absolutely, righteously determined to defend their home. Putin is a dead man.

Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 01:13 | #

James, here is a piece of propaganda I find more involving than your puppy thing. Look into her face. She has no fear. She is self-willed and serene, and clear about her life’s meaning at this hour.

Spirit of Ukraine

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:43 | #

GW,

The reality is Ukraine is either going to fall under the sphere of influence of Russia or the Western powers.

Coming from the white-preservationist perspective, I believe if Ukraine chooses to join in with the UN/NATO, they’ll be put on a demographic trajectory—via immigration—resulting in native Ukrainians becoming a minority in Ukraine before the end of this century. They’ll experience the same fate as what’s unfolding in England. Is that what you really want for the Ukrainians? Let’s be real here.

To reiterate James’ question: “Would Ukranian EGI be better respected if under Russian domination than if under Western domination?”

Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:42 | #

The Visigrad nations are not like Germany or Belgium or Sweden. In the eighteen years since accession, they have not allowed their countries to be swamped by the EU’s non-white pets - Hungary famously so. By your model that should have happened by now, surely? Of course, it has not happened because nativism attends the conservativism of these peoples, and by and large their elites are as yet still attached. They haven’t all floated off into the globalist hierarchy.

When the Russian Army is thrown out of Ukraine, the Ukrainians will be imbued with an even more powerful charge of nativism than any of eastern and south-eastern European members of the EU. They will join the EU (but not NATO, I think). They will bolster the nativist states. The EU will restrict if not entirely eliminate the American geopolitical drive, as it restricts it in all the other member states.

This is the immediate future, Thorn. In the longer term the global technocracy will seek to control all the peoples and own all the physical assets of what are now nations. But that’s another war for Ukrainians and for all of us.

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 13:29 | #

“By your model that should have happened by now, surely?”

It’s just a matter of time, GW. At the present the “non-white pets” are passing through the poorer EU countries on their way to the richer countries—those that offer more welfare benefits and job opportunities. But once the richer EU countries decline into shit-hole countries, central and eastern European countries will become “non-white pets” preferable choice in which to settle.

To say Sub-Saharan Africa’s population is bursting at the seams is an understatement. A large segment of that burgeoning population is anxious to escape Africa and relocate to Europe and elsewhere—Europe, of course, is their most preferable choice. The Ukraine becoming a member of the EU will no doubt increase its GDP concomitate with increasing the standard of living for the Ukrainian citizens; but at the same time, it will act as a magnet for the EU’s “non-white pets” to migrate there. If past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior, then I can imagine the EU’s woke ruling-class rolling out the red carpet and waving them in.

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 16:04 | #

“Epic” interview with Elon Musk by TED Talk

https://youtu.be/cdZZpaB2kDM

“epic” because TED talks are sermons preaching to the bluechecks (midwits) on behalf of the the sociopathic college of neoliberal cardinals—and Musk’s TWTR takeover is, to them, their Defenestration of Prague.

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 16:07 | #

GW if you think that there aren’t tens of millions of girls who would have a similarly serene look on their face as they kill you and I because of our defense of their ethnic genetic interests you are living in a dream world.

Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 16:35 | #

But she doesn’t want to kill me, James. She wants to kill Orcs who murder and mutilate her mother and father and rape her sister. Inner beauty in a time of absolute ugliness.

Seriously, though, the point is that her serenity and devotion is not manufactured externally like the emotions expended on the puppy. It all comes from within, indeed it can only come from within. It is an example of Crisis-Dasein ... presence in the moment brought to fruition by the extremis of that moment. It and she is beautiful, all the more so for being authentic.

As I said elsewhere, crisis-Dasein is not ideal, of course, since its longevity is restricted to the time of crisis.

Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 17:07 | #

Thorn, this is an image of an undoubtedly left-wing gathering:

Budapest pride event

... in fact, a “gay” parade in Budapest. Not sure of the year, but pretty recent. The EU will have had at least a decade and a half by that point to interpose a bit of racial diversity into the Hungarian capital’s “gay” scene. But, as you see, it just isn’t there.

Why? Well, for the reason I have said, of course.

Now, during the post-war years the Moscow government filled the Donbas with ethnic Russians, just as it did in the Baltic states, most especially Lithuania. In the latter case it was a deliberate attempt to blend out the ethnicity of the real peoples of the land. What makes you think anything has changed in Moscow? And if it hasn’t, isn’t the principal consideration in Ukraine that nothing of that kind happens?

Look to the life and interests of the natives. Don’t lose sight of that. Don’t get carried off into geopolitical thinking, because the good of the Ukrainians is not served by a Russian victory. They all know that. They are not wrong, and you right! Think it through.

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 18:14 | #

The layers of confusion here are almost too much to bother with but, ok, let’s talk about puppies vs young ladies in defense of their EGI:

The puppies appeal to the “I Stand With Ukraine” swarm on social media who would tuck tail and run if they actually were put in that young lady’s position. They are properly exemplified by the “puppies” example—not that you are emotionally motivated to “Stand With Ukraine” by such shallow images. So don’t confuse the issue. But more importantly, they are critical to the mobilization of the entire neoliberal networking swarm.

It isn’t all about *you*.

Another layer of confusion you introduced:

If you think war time propaganda isn’t designed and successfully deployed to elicit precisely “Crisis-Dasein ... presence in the moment brought to fruition by the extremis of that moment” then you vastly underestimate the power, importance and effectiveness, in late stage civilization, of psychological warfare. But perhaps more critically for you and I, you under estimate our enemy’s sophistication.

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 18:46 | #

“Why? Well, for the reason I have said, of course.”

I agree with you on that and it’ll stay that way as long as their ruling-class doesn’t sell them out/doesn’t betray them.

“Look to the life and interests of the natives. Don’t lose sight of that.”

GW, I’ve always focused on the interests of the natives and never lost sight of that. The problem is in the USA and the UK we’re ruled by traitorous leaders who do not have the best interests of the USA’s founding stock or the UK’s native populations in mind. We suffer under a system in which the rights of non-white minorities are prioritized over the rights of the white majority thus the EGI of the non-white minorities are prioritized over the EGI of the white majority. Our two countries share in common ruling-classes who believe the most effective way to govern a multiracial population is to require whites to prove they’re not racists ... and place maximum pressure on them to do so. They think that that pressure is necessary in keeping whites off balance ... preventing them from organizing a massive revolt. .... Just my midwit opinion, of course.

At any rate, I think we’ve always agreed on those particular fundamentals.

Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 19:28 | #

James, Heidegger’s point in respect to authenticity in crisis, which we might also profitably call seriousness, is that it is very much not elicited externally. Propaganda can generate pathologies which simulate that seriousness, but underlying them is always a correspondence to a narrative of some kind. In war-time, of course, Establishments work hard to generate war psychopathy among the people; and after the war to dispel it. It’s a production. Orwell’s Two Minute Hate is a memorable account of this process. The theatre audience rage at the screen and experience a cathartic release, but it is not at all the same as being there when the bullets fly and the bombs fall. It is, to borrow the title of a 1980s pop-song by a not very wholesome musician, desperate but not serious.

Catharsis is something you know a lot about, so the distinction here should be crystal clear. The young lady in the uniform of the Ukrainian Army is not searching for a “me” experience. She is not searching. She is appropriating. She has her finger on the safety catch of her rifle. She is in reality.

Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 20:30 | #

I think we’ve always agreed on those particular fundamentals.

I know that.

I’ve always focused on the interests of the natives and never lost sight of that.

As I’ve said on the OP and in this thread, I’ve been shocked by how few nationalists have kept faith with the principle of the native European people. I don’t know what kind of nationalism it is that cheers on an invader and aggressor, even to the point of excusing their heinous crimes by laying them at the feet of the victim.

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 15 Apr 2022 23:22 | #

Mearsheimer: Many say that “Putin invaded Ukraine because he wants to conquer it & integrate it into a greater Russia. Putin is interested in recreating the Soviet Union.” This all is nonsense, there is no evidence to support that. This is all about NATO expansion.

Mearsheimer: The solution is Ukraine to become a neutral country.

Russia News | Exclusive Interview John Mearsheimer, Man Who Predicted Russia Ukraine War| CNN News18

https://youtu.be/_wi_0oiZ7vU

Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:23 | #

Thorn, I respect Mearsheimer for his past plain-speaking. But the evidence on the ground does not support his contention on Ukraine. Three weeks ago Zelensky offered military neutrality but not economic neutrality, plus negotiation on the fate of Donetsk and Luhansk. But he wouldn’t automatically cede them and he wouldn’t cede the south because Ukraine must have access to the Black Sea. He also offered - again - to meet Putin to negotiate face to face. The Russians refused out of hand, and committed to the then-nascent re-setting of their forces for the push in Donbas and along the southern coast.

Now, one way to read this is that the Eurasian mind sees in an offer to negotiate not reasonableness but weakness, and is encouraged to push harder to see if more toys falls out of the cupboard. It’s also likely that Putin can’t afford to be seen to fail and, even though the war in the north has been lost, and with it the opportunity to install a second Lukashenko in Kiev, he must at a minimum have a victory in the east and south or he is in line for a sudden retirement.

But these are not strategic considerations, and it is there we really have to look. What we see is that Putin’s war is principally for economic rather than military/geopolitical advantage. He has already invested billions of roubles in hiring Wagner to masquerade as freedom fighters in the two “autonomous republics”. For obvious reasons, he prefers the certainty of a military solution there to, say, a free referendum, and anyway a wider victory in the Donbas would cede him a large, mineral-rich prize. More tellingly, he wants the whole of the coastal region. He’s not satisfied just to take Mariupol and gain a land corridor to the Crimean Peninsula. He has re-taken Kherson to the west and is shelling Mykolayev, across the Dneiper. Taking Mykolayev will open the road to Odessa because it is now obviously too dangerous to attempt a sea-borne assault on the city. Seizing the entire southern coast land-locks Ukraine, and gives Russia control over Ukrainian agricultural exports. It also opens the way to future expansion into Transnistria, so that political pressure can be applied to Moldova.

None of this is necessary for agreement on Ukrainian military neutrality. Very obviously, there is zero demand among the citizens of Odessa to return to Moscow’s tender embrace. So it’s old-fashioned expansionism ... resource acquisition by violence exactly like in Georgia ... and it creates a difficulty for Mearsheimer and all those who are fixated on bearding American neocons and NATO’s nuclear politics, and thus on providing Putin with an “understandable” and “reasonable” motive. That doesn’t wash. After all, if Putin only wanted a nuclear-free Ukraine he could have offered Russia’s western “brothers” he talked about in that article he published last July a treaty on non-use of Russia’s own nuclear weapons. Which he never did, because he saw Ukraine as a resource and Ukrainians as something entirely different from brothers. He saw them as an impediment.

Posted by Thorn on Sat, 16 Apr 2022 12:24 | #

GW,

I’ve read a ton of articles and comments both pro-Putin and anti-Putin but your comment outlining the case against Putin’s actions is amongst the most persuasive. Hat tip to you for taking the time to express your thoughts. It’s appreciated.

Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:10 | #

Cheers, Thorn. I strongly suspect that the key to Russian policy is participation in a war on the West for global economic and financial hegemony, which is essentially a war on the dollar as reserve currency. Russia is China’s junior partner, which is inevitable but also uncomfortable. Russia has little industrial utility to the world - when was the last time you bought a product made in Russia? Were it not for its vast natural resources it would be an economic minnow. As it is, all the wealth from its resources is channelled to Kremlin-connected oligarchs. Russia is a kleptocracy and Putin is the kleptocrats’ president. Russia cannot develop wealth distribution to the masses, who cannot, therefore, work and profit and spend to grow the economy. The only way for Russia to become more economically significant and less China’s stooge is to return to empire. Ukraine is the first step, but it hasn’t come off and all that can be salvaged - possibly - are the Donbas and the Black Sea coastal cities.

The arming of the Ukrainians (who naturally want their freedom) by Britain and America is aimed at nipping Putin’s expansionist ambitions in the bud - because, after all, the former Soviet satellites are free, Western nations now, and part of the system of Western hegemony, and nobody ... not London, not Washington, not Brussels, and certainly not the ex-satellite nations themselves wants a return to Russian control. Just look at Belarussia.

So, one can say that the geopolitics are that “the evil West” is simply trying to defend its position (which may or may not be a just act - this is solely about power). Defence may not be possible in the southern hemisphere anyway because of the very rigid and oppressive debt system that the West has foisted on the world. With the exception of Australia (see AUKUS - NZ has a mad Covidian/Green government and is sitting on the geopolitical fence) every other southern hemisphere nation may look upon a new digital YUAN-based currency favourably. It is a dangerous time for the Western banking elites. We may be witnessing the death of debt, and it may take all of us in the West down with it. So Ukraine, as the first hot war in this process, is truly, globally significant, and the West can’t afford to lose.

Of course, the peaceful way to protect Western hegemony was to reverse the globalisation of the last four decades and repatriate manufacture to our corner of the globe. But that was Trump’s original policy, and there is a Democrat in the White House today following a technocratic-corporate agenda in which debt plays no part and, ultimately, it does not really matter which part of the globe is financially dominant.

Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:46 | #

GW writes:

Catharsis is something you know a lot about, so the distinction here should be crystal clear.

What I know of “catharsis” is that it isn’t enough because our understanding of “trauma” was subverted by Freudian psychoanalysis and its notions of “repression”. Integration is enough. Integration requires respecting all levels of cognition in their attempts to bring one into consilience with EGI’s reality and from there to Reality.

The catharsis of reacting to an invading military force is predicated on the quite natural assumption—baked into our deeper levels of cognition by tribal conflicts going back millions of years. One can end up with very sincere states of mind that appeal to men like you. But let’s say, just for the sake of argument (note I’m not now asserting this) that the regime in Ukraine is actually hostile to the EGI of Ukranians just as are all Western regimes now hostile to the EGI of their respective peoples and, to further stretch your credulity let me further hypothesize that Russia is deemed to be the enemy of these Western regimes precisely because it is not as hostile to the EGI of Western peoples.

In that hypothetical world, would the young woman not be equally “authentic” in reacting to bombs going off around her as coming from the enemy of her EGI? How can her authentic being be expected to understand the horrifying reality of her own government being taken over “peacefully” by agencies even more hostile to her EGI than Putin? Are you presupposing some kind of paranormal capacity?

Posted by Thorn on Sat, 16 Apr 2022 15:17 | #

“It is a dangerous time for the Western banking elites. We may be witnessing the death of debt, and it may take all of us in the West down with it. So Ukraine, as the first hot war in this process, is truly, globally significant, and the West can’t afford to lose.

Of course, the peaceful way to protect Western hegemony was to reverse the globalisation of the last four decades and repatriate manufacture to our corner of the globe. But that was Trump’s original policy, and there is a Democrat in the White House today following a technocratic-corporate agenda in which, ultimately, it does not really matter which part of the globe is financially dominant.”

I think you’re right on target there, again. The West is too hooked on cheap imports. As long as cheap imports are readily available the rebuilding of our manufacturing sector remains low on the list of priorities - it shouldn’t be, but it is. A solid robust manufacturing sector is vital to national security.

At any rate, it’ll be interesting to see the effects artificial intelligence (AI) has on the standard of living for the masses - particularly WRT worker displacement. Elon Musk says production of AI robots, on a mass scale, is right at our doorstep.

Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:13 | #

Thorn, if robotics + AI “frees” Europeans from labour, then the nationalist struggle changes both to determining a model that supplies genuine liberty plus dignity, and prosperity, but also to delivering the ethnic nationalist desiderata of security of existence and an authenticising life. If legal mass immigration continues beyond the point where there is an economic function for it (ie, repayment of thin-air debt through growth in GDP), then we know beyond question that the Western Establishment’s objective is our racial dissolution.

Posted by James Bowery on Sat, 16 Apr 2022 22:11 | #

Russian Hackers

Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 16 Apr 2022 23:34 | #

The catharsis of reacting to an invading military force is predicated on the quite natural assumption—baked into our deeper levels of cognition by tribal conflicts going back millions of years. One can end up with very sincere states of mind that appeal to men like you.

My point about Orwell and catharsis is not that. Catharsis itself is a signifier of a dominant or formerly dominant underlying pathology. Rather, the issue is one of a completely non-pathological detachment and an unconcealing of what was always there, standing close. In the purest terms, the trigger, as I have said often before, is a certain willed focus or active attention. Heidegger’s crisis is non-optimal because it is a second-order effect which may or may not initiate the detaching process. The real trick is to initiate from within, deliberately.

On EGI, there is a category error here, because the process in question above is identitarian, while EGI is of the blood. But to answer your hypothetical question, our awake young lady would, by courtesy of her wakefulness, know friend and foe by their deeds. We begin here with wakefulness, not political authority. Just as her authenticity is not a product of orders, so her perception of friend and foe, which is her perception of blood, is hers alone. She is her own sweet government. One then arrives at the government that is of the people through the accretion of like individuals.

Posted by Thorn on Sun, 17 Apr 2022 00:15 | #

@ 61

Happy Easter, James.

Posted by James Bowery on Sun, 17 Apr 2022 19:29 | #

On bloodism vs identitarianism, if Zelenskyy even remotely cared about his peoples EGI or identity, he would have held a referendum in each province regarding their preference: Join Russia or stay with Ukraine. At 2 months in, 15% of his population has fled and he’s saying he’s in it for the long haul—years—on behalf of the nighmarish US general who is all in for CRT claiming its going to be a decade long war of attrition. It’s really hard to make the case that any kind of “wakefulness” would not have had that young woman hunting down Zelensky.

Posted by Thorn on Mon, 18 Apr 2022 14:49 | #

Col Douglas Macgregor Discusses Current Status of Conflict in Ukraine

[...]

The most dangerous time will be when the Russians are close to achieving their objective in Eastern Ukraine, and the western media will be faced with having to reconcile the difference between the propaganda they have been selling to western citizens and the actual truth on the ground. That’s when the western alliance is likely to do something drastic.

Watch:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/04/17/col-douglas-macgregor-discusses-current-status-of-conflict-in-ukraine/#more-231909

Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 18 Apr 2022 15:04 | #

James, the Kremlin launched a full-scale war against the whole Ukrainian people because it wants to take their country. So it isn’t Jewish neocons they are killing and maiming. Actually, the Jewish neocon in charge of Ukraine offered them a perfectly viable basis for peace negotiations, conceding the Russians’ principal demand. In response, the Russians have launched a second offensive, the victims of whom are, of course, ordinary Ukrainian men, women, and children in their cities and towns. It should be clear, then, that the Russians are killing Ukrainians for complex geopolitical reasons in no way limited to or even dependent upon the actions of said neocons or anybody inside or outside Ukraine.

From the perspective of the Kremlin, Ukraine is principally a means of bolstering Russia’s standing with China, which Putin feels he needs to do. Why? Because he anticipates that the Chinese are going to inherit global hegemony, and he needs Russia to puff its chest out. Seizing what he can of Ukraine is that cold-blooded and self-serving. You had better hope that China doesn’t succeed because these are Asiatics lead by gangsters, and they don’t think like we do, don’t observe the rule of law like us, don’t respect life like us, don’t hold to Western standards in any respect. They won’t help us in any way.

If Putin’s war presents a very clear moral choice for any observer, it presents a markedly clearer one for Ukrainians who wish to defend their people. Shooting Zelensky to preserve Ukrainian EGI is probably not going to affect Putin’s ambitions in Ukraine or, for that matter, out of it.

Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 18 Apr 2022 16:29 | #

GW writes:

Actually, the Jewish neocon in charge of Ukraine offered them a perfectly viable basis for peace negotiations, conceding the Russians’ principal demand.

Too late to be a credible offer. Zelenskyy was, at best, duped into sacrificing “his” people on the altar of Western corruption—at worst he was an active party to the genocide of “his” own people.

Ukraine is right down there with Russia, neck and neck, for the most corrupt of any “white” nation. It takes one to know one and Putin knows. Does he want an utterly corrupt Ukraine under control of Western corruption? He’s more intimately familiar with the “Jewish neocon” gangsterism than either you or I, in the form of his “private sector” oligarchs. You want to warn me of all people about “Asiatic” gangsterism? I may have been the first person in history—and here on MR of all places—to set forth the conjecture that Maoist intelligence was using the very addictive qualities of Jewish virulence (Hundred Years of Humiliation after the Opium Wars) to ramp it up to corrupt the West, and had been doing so ever since Mao allied with the West in WW II. What do you think Jewish neocons are? Certainly, Russia isn’t as refined in this “virtue” as is China, but is this supposed to be an argument for Jewish neocon control of Ukraine over Russia? I don’t get it.

No, Western corruption is primarily responsible for the genocide of Ukrainians. You and I are, by implication, responsible for not overthrowing Western corruption and onboarding Russia as we should have been doing ever since the fall of the Soviet Union.

Posted by Guessedworker on Mon, 18 Apr 2022 17:17 | #

James, if the Kremlin invaded because their self-declared “red line” was a nuclear-armed Ukraine, then it was not too late to declare peace when that red line was respected. It is never too late for statesmen to declare for peace and come to the negotiating table. No responsible statesman would do so unless he has undeclared war aims which have not been met. Putin has clearly demonstrated that he has such war aims, and since we know they’re not military and geopolitical they have to be economic and geopolitical (geo-historical and hegemonic in this case).

So I invite you to respond to that.

NB: This is about global-historical ambition, and the anti-humanity of the ambitious. Jews will go wherever the wind of change blows. It’s not about them or nuclear provocation, or anything anyone did to “corner” Putin. By some default “enemy of my enemy” reasoning, dissidents and nationalists in the West have missed all that, and misjudged the principal actor in this war. It’s not too late to re-think.

Incidentally, I was looking at Le Figaro a couple of minutes ago. They are running a story on Putin’s russification of areas that have been ethnically cleansed. This is a man who bombs and murders to change the population to his liking, and you think it’s about Jews and the corruption of Zelensky!

Posted by James Bowery on Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:25 | #

You missed my point about China .... cui bono etc. even though you, yourself, brought it up. Why is that? I’m not defending people who are as simplistic as you are arguing against.

When you say Jews aren’t in control, I can certainly agree with that at this point, as I’ve pointed out here over 10 years ago leading up to the election of Donald Trump as a probable result of them finding out just _how_ out of control they are.

To use an apt analogy: In a nuclear confrontation, you don’t want to target the leaders of the other side because (aside from tit-for-tat de facto collusion) you won’t have anyone to negotiate with in order to deescalate and minimize the risk of utter anhilation.

Jews subvert.

They’re worse than nuclear holocaust.

They wreck not only the ability to have leadership that can effectively negotiate a reduction of hostilities, they wreck the very peoples at a genetic level—and then they move on to “Where someone will appreciate us!”. How many times do I have to link to that Hareetz article where their joint organizations basically said they’ve sucked the West dry and should increase ties with China?

How many times do I have to talk about China as the beneficiary?

How many times do I have to point out that John Robb, who knows a good deal about how military strategy works, has pointed out that the greatest fear we now face is the lack of any party in the West with which a negotiated settlement can be effective? (ie: The West is now little more than a swarm of bees that respond with mindless abandon based on the moral equivalent of alarm pheromones. Either you’re part of the swarm and emit the right pheromones (as you are now) or you are a de facto enemy to be disconnected as Russia has been, from the modern world’s networked infrastructures.)

BTW: If you think Musk doesn’t see how important Twitter is to initiating this swarming behavior in the West and how dangerous it is to any kind of negotiation, then you’ll miss the reason he’s plopping down $43B to put a stop to it. You’ll also miss why he’s in such a hurry to get an escape route for humanity. Too bad people didn’t listen to me 30 years ago or at least read what I said 40 years ago about the emergence of the Internet.

Bees….

Swarms…

Oh, and people even here are convinced I’m a kook for talking about humans as a nascent eusocial species—even now, GW.

Pearls…

Swine…

But then I suppose Huxley felt the same way about people paying attention to Orwell’s 1984 over his Brave New World.

Posted by Thorn on Mon, 18 Apr 2022 21:48 | #

At the time Nixon took the initial step to normalized relations with China, everyone over the age of 10 understood going in that direction would eventually result in China overtaking the USA as the dominant world power. How could anyone not see that?! More to the point, during the 1960s, it was clear we were witnessing an inverse relationship between Marxist based ideologies waxing vs the American work ethic and moral-values on the decline (of course the latter was a result of the former). OTOH, the > one billion Chinese were very ambitious and ready to get ‘er done. (A little Larry the Cable Guy lingo there.)

Wittingly or unwittingly American-academics’ push for racial-socialism and the greed/short sightedness of private corporations are ensuring China ends up the winner. Furthermore, this proxy war between the U.S. and Russia—which could easily escalate into direct confrontation—is hastening the process of the white-race going extinct and China dominating the planet.

(HAH! After previewing what I just wrote I realized just how depressing it sounds! Vodka time! lol)

Posted by Thorn on Tue, 19 Apr 2022 13:11 | #

Marine Le Pen is one of those semi-rare western politicians who has their head screwed on straight. Unlike most western pols, she has the ability to identify and comprehend reality - aka common sense.

French candidate Le Pen seeks to prevent Russia-China bloc

Moscow-Beijing alliance would endanger Europe, says Macron rival

“Imagine we do nothing to prevent a situation in which the largest country in the world unites with the country with the largest population. We will allow the largest world producer of raw materials – Russia – to unite with the largest ‘factory’ of the planet – China – perhaps we will let them become the number one military force in the world. I think this is a big danger. Therefore, it is necessary to use diplomatic measures, when the war is over, when the peace agreement is signed, to avoid this unification, which can become a threat to us in the 21st century,” Le Pen said.

https://www.rt.com/news/554098-lepen-russia-china-alliance/

Posted by Thorn on Tue, 19 Apr 2022 16:25 | #

Gonzalo Lira Goes Missing After Daily Beast Tries To Get Him Killed
Apr 19, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol4zq05NXJs

Apparently, Gonzalo has been “democratized” for the crime of going against the approved narrative.

Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:20 | #

The IMF seeks to protect its debt-turf:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/04/19/world-economy-risks-fragmenting-wake-russia-ukraine-war-imf/

Russia and China threaten ‘tectonic shift’ in world economy, IMF warns
Growth forecasts are slashed as body warns Ukraine war could mark end of globalisation

The world is at risk of splitting into two economic blocks as a “tectonic shift” puts an end to decades of globalisation.

The warning from the IMF came as its economists slashed growth forecasts in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

... Pierre-Olivier Gourinchas, IMF chief economist, said: “The war also increases the risk of a more permanent fragmentation of the world economy into geopolitical blocks with distinct technology standards, cross-border payment systems, and reserve currencies.”

He said this “tectonic shift” would carry huge economic consequences and is a major challenge to “the rules-based framework that has governed international and economic relations for the last 75 years.”

And very much allied to that, the return of imperial Russia:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/-putin-s-brain-what-alexander-dugin-reveals-about-russia-s-leader

‘Putin’s brain’: What Alexander Dugin reveals about Russia’s leader

When the former president of Russia Dmitry Medvedev warned in recent days that Putin’s ambition in invading Ukraine was to ‘finally build an open Eurasia from Vladivostok to Lisbon’, he too was aligning himself with Ilyin and his successors. This includes men like Alexander Dugin, a former lecturer at Moscow State university, who has been labelled ‘Putin’s brain’.

In an interview with the Los Angeles Times in 2008, Dugin recalled his initial reservations about Putin. He criticised him for being ‘encircled by pro-Western, pro-liberal politicians and advisors and experts’ and condemned Putin’s support of the United States in the aftermath of 9/11. However, he also saw that, after the 2008 invasion of Georgia, Putin had passed an ‘irreversible point’. He declared that his support of Putin was ‘now absolute’.

For Dugin, the West – and the United States, in particular – is ‘the kingdom of the antichrist’. He believes the West wants to destroy Russia, to submerge it in ‘the abyss of chaos and corruption’. Fighting the West is more than a political necessity: it’s a divine calling.

Ensuring the absorption of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine into Russia then is merely the temporal part of Dugin’s vision. The more dangerous vision is of an apocalyptic battle between the forces of good (Russia) and evil (the West). The meaning of Russia is defined by this struggle where the ‘last thought of God’ will be realised through the Russian people. That thought is ‘the thought of the End of the World’. This vision of politics will not come about of its own volition. It will come about through war, which Dugin calls ‘the father of things’.

Seen in this light – and given Dugin’s influence over Putin – Russia’s aggression against its neighbours hardly comes as a surprise. When faced with this apocalyptic ideology, it’s as absurd to blame Nato for Putin’s war as it is to blame American foreign policy for radical Islamist ideology: religious fanaticism plays by its own rules.

Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 20 Apr 2022 15:09 | #

Was I the first to point out the analogy between Jewish virulence and HIV virulence: Attack the immune system first to make digesting the rest of the body politic easier and move on before the whole thing collapses due to opportunistic “infections” from immigration?

Of course Jews are not uniformly virulent—this is a “wild type” pathogen—not optimized and not even originally pathogenic. It became pathogenic once deprived of a homeland and found a parasitic niche very early on.

But viewing Jews as a biological weapon leads one naturally to “gain of function research” by those who can see Jewish virulence as a tool to be optimized.

This is what I think Maoist Intelligence may have done in the wake of WW II, based on a more sophisticated understanding of not only Jewish virulence but of political economy and the cycle of civilization. Chinese history has well known (if not understood well in the West) civilization cycles that guys like Toynbee (and other Western analysts of civilization) have been blind to because of Jewish virulence. If you understand the cycle of civilization it is relatively easy to see how Jewish virulence evolved to exploit its dynamics. Once you see that, all you need to do is neutralize the aspects of Jews that are less virulent and assist the aspects that are more virulent in the schools of economic thought. That’s easy to do with virtually no money and do so invisibly. While I’ve often stated I think “libertarian” organizations like the Mises Institute are good places to look for Maoist influence, it could even be that places like the Chicago School of Economics, The American Enterprise Institute, etc. (all “right wing”) are creatures of the Maoists. All of these have contributed to open borders and internationalization of critical industries benefiting China.

The immigration of opportunistic infections is now so far out of control, and the IMF, etc. are so drunk on power that there is little to look forward to in the West than collapse; hence the accelerationists.

Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 20 Apr 2022 15:37 | #

GW wrote (implictly impugning my wisdom regarding China):

You had better hope that China doesn’t succeed because these are Asiatics lead by gangsters, and they don’t think like we do, don’t observe the rule of law like us, don’t respect life like us, don’t hold to Western standards in any respect. They won’t help us in any way.

If my history of talking about China as the penultimate evil in the world (subSaharan African Genetic OmniDominance being the ultimate—an ultimate evil which China, at one time in history, had the wisdom to avoid by burning their ships during the European “age of exploration” foolishness) isn’t enough to make GW aware of my wariness of Chinese:

A lot of the more extreme right wing conspiracy theories focus on a substance known as “adrenochrome” which, it is often thought, can only be extracted from live humans subjected to torture associated with Satanic cults. Well, let’s back off from that just a bit and try to remember that I view dogs as crucial to the reawakening in Man the characteristics necessary to Euroman’s unique greatness—hence my opinion on why heritable individualism correlates so strongly with empathy toward animals—while considering this anecdote:

A lot of my colleagues in Silicon Valley, deprived of access to mates of European heritage that would deign to have children with such unworthy people as goy men (after all, just look at the movies produced by Hollywood!) ended up marrying Chinese women. Among the stories I’ve heard are visits to China where feasting on the delicacy of dog meat is routine. One report in particular caught my attention: The colleague reported that after eating dog meat he got “a high” with “lots of energy”, almost like cocaine. At the time I thought that perhaps this may have been a coevolutionary adaptation wherein dogs were killed for food by their human alpha only in the most dire of circumstances, and the dogs somehow managed to evolve the capacity to provide their alpha with greater predatory capacity to hunt other game in the dead of winter.

But then I learned that Chinese torture dogs that are to be killed and eaten:

Yulin Dog Meat Festival: Dogs blow-torched alive in footage from China

Jews? Two levels down in the food-chain of evil.

PS: Genetic adaptation to high starch diets favor high population densities due to the higher caloric yield per acre of grains. Rice is at the extreme end. So although lactose tolerance is given a lot of attention, as enabling the IndoEuropean expansion, consider that rice produces enough calories per acre to power 6 people whereas even wheat is down around 1 person per acre—and that’s assuming you aren’t a hunter-gatherer, maratime or pastoralist genotype (as are most Euroman individualist genotypes). Mass immigration to territories capable of rice cultivation from populations not as well adapted to rice consumption as are Chinese—especially immigration from people that will cause civilization to collapse in those territories—inures to the benefit of Chinese. Jews? Disposable bioweapon once they’ve enabled mass immigration by destroying the host immune system.

PPS: A goy guy married to a Jewess was promoting “virtual reality coffins” among the Hollywood Mafia back in the early 1990s—specifically for the Chinese to control their excess male population with virtual reality games/work environments. Sloptube futurism:

Sloptube Futurism

Posted by Thorn on Thu, 21 Apr 2022 12:50 | #

The Russian invasion of Ukraine has all but disappeared from the front page. It’s been replaced by face-mask mandates being lifted on public transit, Johnny Depp’s defamation trial, and Trump’s meltdown during the Piers Morgan interview. IOW, the MSM is back to reporting on the important stuff…... /s

Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 21 Apr 2022 19:28 | #

I’m still trying to account for why a great many Western dissidents and nationalists conclude that the corruption of the Zelensky regime and/or the designs of the US neocons is the principal issue in Putin’s war, and not, for example, the geopolitics of the struggle for empire and a new financial world order. I get that one day, if the corrupt Zelensky regime and the neocons remain in their positions, the Western/Jewish immigration agenda might be imposed on the Ukrainian people, who would then end up in the dire demographic and civilisational position we are in now. But that’s not actually uppermost in people’s minds when Russian soldiers are at the door saying your people don’t exist and ordering the men of the house out into the street.

Geopolitical wheels turn slowly, and it will take time for the US elites as a whole to analyse what they did with American post-WW2 hegemony, imposing a debt regime on the the global south and deluding themselves that the important thing is to dissolve the nation state, dissolve the bond of blood and land, and to bet the house on the radically free corporation trading sans barriers and moving its cost base to wherever is cheapest. It does look to me as if the Chinese, Russians and, possibly, the Indians are reacting opportunistically to that catalogue of errors. The question, then, is not what they do to advance their claim, but what the Americans and Europeans now do (or, possibly, can do because of entrenched interests) to correct past sins and institute a paradigm shift of their own that out-manoeuvres the Sino-Russian side.

Today, an article appeared at ConHome by John C Hulsman, who is on the Council on Foreign Relations. He writes of the rapidly changing geopolitical ground:

https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2022/04/john-c-hulsman-the-war-in-ukraine-casts-a-bright-cold-light-on-a-new-geopolitical-era.html

Before the fighting, great powers Japan, India, and the UK/Anglosphere firmly sided with the US while the EU veered between neutralism and its traditional ties with America, even as Russia oscillated between neutralism and a junior role alongside China.

But war, as ever, has scrambled things, as geopolitics – so often glacially slow – has moved along at a torrid pace where recently weeks have felt like decades.

With the coming of the war, three decisive geopolitical trajectories have changed at the global great power level. The wobbling of both Russia and Europe has come to an end, definitively ending their collective flirtation with neutralism.

First, a vengeful, humiliated, cornered, and economically threatened Russia now has no choice but to definitively side with China, needing Beijing’s help to economically survive the overwhelming American-inspired global sanctions put in place against it, and the effective weaponization of the dollar.

As we recently wrote here, for Putin it is better to be China’s junior partner – Robin to Beijing’s Batman – than to be isolated as an international pariah. So, Russia has moved definitively into Beijing’s superpower camp.

Second, and at the same time, the EU, shockingly, has at last awoken from its generations-long strategic slumber. Pivotal Germany has, incredibly, committed to re-arm (along with Poland and Sweden) which, if carried out in the medium-term, gives the continent the combined military dimension it has sorely lacked since the 1950s.

After years of former Chancellor Angela Merkel’s disastrous, somnambulant energy policy, leaving Berlin utterly dependent on Russian natural gas, painfully a new EU-wide approach to energy — at last taking security of supply into account — is in the works, with natural gas from the US, Qatar and Norway diluting Russia’s stranglehold on a heretofore-oblivious Europe.

Finally, and profoundly, after Merkel’s ruinous flirtation with mercantilist isolationist neutralism, the new government of Olaf Scholz is firmly back into the Atlantic camp, in a way that was unthinkable, even just months ago. The West, with US, Japan, the Anglosphere, and the EU all onside, has a decisive edge over the revisionist autocracies of China and Russia.

For those of us who prefer to live in such a western-dominated order this is very good news, indeed.

He then goes on to talk about India as symbolic of those nations which formerly acquiesced in the American/Western system, but now are looking to assert their independence. The article doesn’t demonstrate that creative thinking is underway. But, of course, it must be. How radical it will be in respect to ending globalisation, re-confirming the nation state, and even whether that means throttling back on the population replacement agenda cannot yet be surmised. But the world is at some kind of inflection point, and if America and the West is not to be consigned to geopolitical irrelevance, then an end to the pursuit of weakness and obvious mistakes and a retrenchment to its inherent strengths must be undergone. How great it would be if nationalists and dissidents were scoping the potentials of such a shift instead of fighting “the Jews”, as if that’s all there ever is.

Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:29 | #

Part of what the Western elites need to be thinking through with some urgency:

... what impact will the advent of digital currencies have on the dollar’s hegemonic status in the global monetary order? Fed expert Jim Bianco offered some very interesting thoughts on this topic during his latest interview with MacroVoices’ Erik Townsend, where he offered an interesting prediction.

First, Bianco pointed out that many of the central banks that are most advanced in their CBDC projects are members of the emerging and frontier market classifications. As we have noted before, three CBDCs have already gone fully live in the past two years: the so-called DCash in the Eastern Caribbean, the Sand Dollar in the Bahamas and the eNaira in Nigeria (and, of course, the PBOC is making swift progress with its “e-RMB”).

One reason why central banks in emerging markets are so eager to accelerate the transition to digital currencies is because many are growing frustrated with the realities of American hegemony. Even the IMF (or at least some of its senior officials) has acknowledged that western sanctions are undermining international faith in the dollar-based monetary system.

Here’s Bianco, responding to a question from Townsend about a theoretical global monetary system managed by a consortium of central banks and based on a kind if supranational digital currency.

“So you’re seeing the adoption rate, really what’s pushing this is Asia, Africa, the Middle East, knowing that they’ve been at the short end of the stick having not to have access to world capital markets, or to banking services at a reasonable rate. And wanting to have that. That’s why you’re seeing the adoption of places like in El Salvador, and potentially in Argentina, as well, too. Because they have been shut out of the capital markets, they need the permission of entities like the World Bank, or the IMF to do certain things. They are punished if they do things that displeasures, the first world or the United States, or the IMF, or the World Bank. And so that’s why they want some kind of system like that.”

From a ZH article here:

https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/central-bank-digital-currencies-are-doomed-fail-and-heres-why

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 22 Apr 2022 11:36 | #

7 billion per month to the most corrupt government in Europe. Lots of nogoodniks gonna get rich!

Zelenskyy Says He Needs $7 Billion Per Month Western Government Subsidy to Sustain Economy
April 21, 2022

(VIA CNN) – “Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Thursday that Ukraine needs $7 billion per month in financial assistance to make up for the economic losses from the war.

In a virtual address to a World Bank forum, Zelenksy also said that it would take “hundreds of billions of dollars” to rebuild his country later.

He said every country must be prepared to break all relations with Russia and that Moscow should “immediately” be excluded from all international financial institutions including the IMF and the World Bank.” (link)

Plus, “10% for the big guy”.

more>>

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/04/21/zelenskyy-says-he-needs-7-billion-per-month-western-government-subsidy-to-sustain-economy/

Posted by Thorn on Fri, 22 Apr 2022 11:48 | #

I think Western dissidents and nationalists are so pissed off by the traitorous degenerate genocidal policies of our own ruling-class that any perceived attack on them is a welcome relief. It maybe irrational from an authentic white preservationist/nationalist POV such as yourself, GW, but understandable, nevertheless.

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 22 Apr 2022 13:47 | #

GW writes:

Geopolitical wheels turn slowly, and it will take time for the US elites as a whole to analyse what they did with American post-WW2 hegemony, imposing a debt regime on the the global south and deluding themselves that the important thing is to dissolve the nation state, dissolve the bond of blood and land, and to bet the house on the radically free corporation trading sans barriers and moving its cost base to wherever is cheapest. It does look to me as if the Chinese, Russians and, possibly, the Indians are reacting opportunistically to that catalogue of errors. The question, then, is not what they do to advance their claim, but what the Americans and Europeans now do (or, possibly, can do because of entrenched interests) to correct past sins and institute a paradigm shift of their own that out-manoeuvres the Sino-Russian side.

What does a parasite do that is so virulent that it destroys its host’s immune system to get at the host’s nutrients?

There are no Western elites anymore, GW. There are only mind-controlled zombies that have outlived their usefulness to the parasites just as the rest of their body politic has.

But, you object, “it will take time for the US elites to analyse…”. If they hadn’t been, in effect, selectively lobotomized by the Jews, they would never have permitted themselves to become addicted to fetynalesque properties of dispensing, to their precious parasites that invaded all of US institutions from media to academia to government to finance, the world’s reserve currency in response to growth of international demand for it—and thereby become addicted to maximizing demand for it through all of the “geopolitical strategy” you think they had in mind.

No.

They had but one thing in mind.

Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 22 Apr 2022 14:57 | #

Surely the question, James, is whether the elite body is acting in a parasitic form because that is the form in which such detachment and levering up must take; or whether it is acting such because it is, in fact, a parasite. I don’t discount the possibility that Jewish elites function so parasitically that they may be called such, especially given the evolutionary history of Jews in diaspora. But the European elites have no such evolutionary history, and one should surely, therefore, make some exception in their case; the exception being that they fall in to the same general relational dynamic because it is extant and they lack the intellectual wherewithall to make a satisfactory birdnest for themselves.

Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 22 Apr 2022 15:54 | #

GW asserts:

But the European elites have no such evolutionary history

How many generations have “European elites” existed in a coevolutionary “general relational dynamic” with Jews acting as tax farmers, etc. for them? What do you think happened to the far more self-possessed European elites that existed prior to the JudeoChristianization of Europe with its concomitant deadly embrace with Jews?

I’ll tell you exactly what happened:

Any elite bloodline that threatened to be remotely self-possessed was gradually dispossessed and either perished or escaped as “criminals” to the frontiers. The last of these Euroman refugia were the Anglosphere frontiers of US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa/Rhodesia. See my prior links following on “Too bad people didn’t listen to me…”

Europe, and at last even GB, were denuded quite systematically.

Elon Musk is the last best hope, but even he fails to understand the cycle of civilization, else he would focus his energies not on peripheral issues like “woke mind viruses” or even escaping the planet to establish a new frontier, but would come to the conclusion I did when passing the legislation to make way for SpaceX back in the early 90s: Respond to Elizabeth “save the middle class from the two income trap” Warren’s snipes at him by calling her bluff and advocate replacing the 16th Amendment with a single tax on the liquidation value of net assets and replacing virtually all government projects hence their politics with a citizen’s dividend, if not the conclusion I eventually reached, which is that this can with minor modifications also replace the Federal Reserve and the standing army.

But the flood of opportunistic infections of the West smelling positive network externalities to capture with the Internet has gone so far now that Musk is already being mind-numbed by highly evolved rentiers from India who escaped affirmative action against the upper caste there to enjoy affirmative action against the remnant of real European elites here.

Posted by Thorn on Sat, 23 Apr 2022 22:44 | #

This article starts out rational enough, but it gradually descends into conspiratorial theories. No way are the extant Russian commies that cunningly clever.

https://jrnyquist.blog/2022/04/21/will-russia-go-nuclear/

Posted by Thorn on Sun, 24 Apr 2022 00:51 | #

Blinken and Austin Heading to Ukraine As Russia Posts Stunning Video of Captured Weapons Cache in Kharkiv

When you watch that video, it’s hard not to wonder where all that military hardware came from previously, and how long the buildup of that particular Kharkiv weapons depot had been happening. There are thousands of tons of weapons and ammunition in that video.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/04/23/blinken-and-austin-heading-to-ukraine-as-russia-posts-stunning-video-of-captured-weapons-cache-in-kharkiv/

Posted by Thorn on Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:42 | #

France for the native French was nice while it lasted, but those days are over.

Posted by Thorn on Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:45 | #

England is the next domino to fall.

Posted by Thorn on Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:57 | #

Maybe England fell already?

Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 24 Apr 2022 23:46 | #

How do you define “fall”?

Posted by Thorn on Mon, 25 Apr 2022 00:04 | #

How do you define “fall”?

It’s a psychological thing, GW. The English elites turned against their own native population. The Emma West episode is a prime example of such. That’s an example of a fall.

Posted by Thorn on Mon, 25 Apr 2022 00:05 | #

How do you define “fall”?

It’s a psychological thing, GW. The English elites turned against their own native population. The Emma West episode is a prime example of such.

Posted by Thorn on Mon, 25 Apr 2022 23:07 | #

This lecture is from 7 years ago. Mr. Weston (whom I philosophically align with) describes GB as a nation in fallen condition; more importantly how and why the fall occurred. Since the vid was made, has GB not sunk even deeper? Brexit notwithstanding? To his credit, Weston states all is not lost; he does offer a glimmer of hope. (BTW, as we are all very well aware, the almost exact same thing is happening in the USA.)

Paul Weston: How to Destroy a Country

https://youtu.be/qkjLcq0yvmM

Posted by Thorn on Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:08 | #

A Recap Of The War In Ukraine - by Gonzalo Lira
Gonzalo Lira just delivered a decent recap of the war in Ukraine.

Gonzalo Lira @GonzaloLira1968 - 10:28 UTC · Apr 26, 2022

[...]

There was still a glimmer that the war might end in a negotiated settlement but that ended in early April. After the Istanbul talks of 3/30, the Ukraine side gingerly agreed to some compromises but within a week publicly disavowed those concessions.

That’s when the Russians realized the Zelensky regime was agreement-incapable: Their Washington masters, Victoria Nuland and Anthony Blinken in particular, wouldn’t allow a peace. They want this war to sap Russia dry. It is a classic proxy war and Ukraine will pay the price.

[...]

RTWT

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-recap-of-the-war-in-ukraine-by-gonzalo-lira.html

Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 26 Apr 2022 13:53 | #

One has to be careful with words. They are, in a non-trivial sense, what unites us but also what divides us. The concept of fallenness is too important to abuse. To quote from an essay I am close to completing at the moment:

Cognitively speaking, both on the matter of his own person and of the world about him, Man is at once a fallen and transcending being. His transit from slumber to awakening, from confusion to certitude scales to the greater organism of the tribe or people. All the stations along the way, excepting only the most elevated, also correlate with, and pressage, an ethnic and national liberation. It is a path which, at every point, is contingent on and articulates from the essential in Man.

Fallenness, then, is a prior condition of all men, a declension balanced via a (by no means guaranteed) ascension. This duality does not deal in permanency either in one state or the other, but in change; always holding to itself an understanding that Man can know light as well as dark, and once knowing light, he can will the turn towards it, which is, of course, the turn to his truth. The turn is where our real interest and our challenge lies.

To speak of the pro tempore reduced estate of a people or nation is another thing entirely, inviting us to think only politically and culturally, but not essentially. So we end up not stating “This is my truth” but, assuming we know all about that, asking instead, “What must be done to the bad situation x or y?” Which in turn encourages us to answer “We must return to traditional ways” or “We must destroy our political enemy” or “We must return to the Church,” and so forth. Thus we are trapped in reaction and shallow utility, and nothing ever changes.

To find our way without finding and expressing our truth is impossible.

Posted by Thorn on Tue, 26 Apr 2022 15:38 | #

Thank you for that very thoughtful comment, GW.

Yes, I get what you’re saying: my use of the words fall and fallen were inappropriate for the context in which I spoke.

A better way to describe the situation in the UK is the ruling-class have been and continue to enact policies which are, in effect, setting the course for the eventual extinction of the native population. That’s (bleeping) obvious!

The most frustrating aspect about our situation is if anyone dare speak out about ‘The Great Replacement’, they’re immediately cast to the outer fringes of society. Of course, we’re in a catch 22 situation ... and the smartest minds WN has to offer haven’t yet figured a way out. Well maybe they have in theory, but there’s little evidence anything concrete has taken shape ... yet. Vikor Orban in Hungary is a rare exception. But the Hungarian population was not subject to the same type of decades long vicious anti-white propaganda the British people have been conditioned with.

Posted by Thorn on Tue, 26 Apr 2022 15:44 | #

insidious and vicious anti-white propaganda

Posted by James Bowery on Wed, 27 Apr 2022 23:53 | #

John Robb says:

“Here’s a good thread on Russia’s inexorable ramp towards total war in response to the western swarm’s escalation (which was anticipated in my reports over the last month).

Suck. I would rather have been wrong about this.”

https://twitter.com/johnrobb/status/1519453205004005379?t=enSzKhYcqgQhF2dsEcwqag&s=19

Posted by Thorn on Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:47 | #

Russia Warns of Nuclear War Risk as Ukraine Talks Go On

[...]

“The danger is serious, real. It can’t be underestimated,” Lavrov said in a state TV interview broadcast late Monday. Invoking the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, when the U.S. and the Soviet Union came close to nuclear war, he said that Moscow and Washington had understood the rules of conduct between the superpowers but “now there are few rules left.”
[...]
The Russian foreign minister’s comments were downplayed by U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who told TalkTV that Moscow wants “to present this as a confrontation between Russia and the West and Russia and NATO. That is emphatically not what is going on.” (Thorn note: That is exactly what’s going on! BoJo is lying his azz off!!)

Lavrov’s comment came after U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Monday in Kyiv that Washington wants to see Russian forces “weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine.” The U.S. announced additional military aid for Ukraine as the war enters its 62nd day with Russian and Ukrainian armies facing off in the eastern Donbas region, where Moscow has regrouped its forces after failing to take Kyiv early in the invasion.
[...]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-26/russia-warns-of-real-nuclear-war-risk-as-ukraine-talks-go-on

Posted by Guessedworker on Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:49 | #

When does Robb see containment and when escalation?

It seems to me that Nuland’s Maidan colour revolution was only the expulsion of the Putin poodle Yanukovytch; and was what the Ukrainians, or the majority of them, wanted to happen. There is, of course, another such poodle in Belarussia, Lukashenko, who, after his stunning election victory a year or two back promptly found that the denizens of Minsk and elsewhere believed he might have cheated them. Oddly, Putin weighed in behind Lukashenko, and didn’t trouble himself about what the people of Belarussia might have wanted. But in Ukraine Putin reacted quiet differently, developing a great and by no means hypocritical desire to “liberate” the people. Indeed, it is rumoured that at the time of the invasion Yanukovitch disappeared from his Russian home and turned up in Minsk, ready for his triumphant return. Thus demonstrating beyond doubt that Putin’s principle concern is that the fat Russian arse shall prevail over whomsoever it sits on.

Now, either one accepts that this is Russia’s sacred and sacrosanct right ... backyard blah .. sphere of influence blah blah ... nuclear weapons on Russia’s borders blah blah blah ... or one says no, the people must prevail over said fat arse. I don’t suppose for a moment that democracy was uppermost in minds in Washington at the time of the Maidan, but what, exactly, is the argument that Russian oppression must never be challenged? Why should anyone be enslaved for the Kremlin?

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Posted by James Bowery on Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:30 | #

Containment implies full control—not just escalation. Robb’s “swarm” is stimergic—there is no deescalation. Swarms can only escalate until they run their stimergic course. Various parties compete to lead the stimergy by appearing to escalate more than others. Think of “signaling” as in “virtue signaling”. Think of the escalation of Cancel Culture and ever increasing escalation of anti-white-heterosexual-maleism.

The West’s controls are in the hands of status seeking girls of both sexes and all ages. They deeply desire to be spanked and can only escalate until they are.

They aren’t interested in negotiating a settlement. They are interested in out-doing each other for status—and saying “nya nya nya” to anyone who looks like they might, finally, turn them over a knee and give them what they deeply need and desire.

Unfortunately for the rest of us*, they’ll get all of us, including themselves, a lot more than they were bargaining for.

A Lot More Than She Bargained For

Musk’s buyout of TWTR came a few years too late to contain this swarm—born of the “Russian collusion” cope with Trump’s election as a way of not talking about >90% of the people (according to Gallup) opposing the manifest policy of increasing immigration rates for half a century up until 2000 and, even then, with all those “naturalized citizens” being counted, being opposed by more than a supermajority. On immigraiton alone all of the West’s institutions are utterly illegitimate and the girls running those institutions are in utter hysterics about it. Putin? Whatever. That’s not what they really care about except that Putin may not be under their control.

*Of course, I exclude from “us” those of “us” who see few realistic paths out of the hellscape that the West has become other than an apocalyptic scenario focused on destroying the cities and their populations now that the cities are populated by non-Western men of military age, thanks to Holocaustianity’s theocracy controlling social policy for over half a century.

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Posted by Thorn on Thu, 28 Apr 2022 23:12 | #

If Ukraine prevails and pushes the Russians out of Ukraine, how many non-whites will be imported to rebuild the place. Any guesses?

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Posted by Guessedworker on Fri, 29 Apr 2022 07:01 | #

No more than one sees in Hungary, one would hope, Thorn.

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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:47 | #

The “swarm” is doing its thing.

EU triggers rule of law procedure against Hungary

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/eu-triggers-rule-of-law-procedure-against-hungary/ar-AAWHx6J?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fc686fa9b7354551a16d281192fa81f3

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Posted by Thorn on Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:53 | #

Tucker Carlson Emphasizes the Mission Priority of Newest DHS Agency, Disinformation Governance Board

[...]

Shortly after Elon Musk made a bid to purchase a single information platform, Twitter, and then expressed his intent to open the speech valves, former Obama administration intelligence officials wrote a letter {SEE HERE} warning about efforts to break up the information control by Big Tech and Social Media.

That letter was shortly followed by a speech delivered by Obama himself where he specifically demanded that government take a larger role in the control of information {LINK}, essentially promoting an Orwellian ‘Ministry of Truth’ to control information in the public sphere.

The internet search engine operators have already agreed to align with the interests of the government. That’s not debatable as in the examples of Google {LINK) and DuckDuckGo {LINK} to name just two. Social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube have famously also expressed their intent to align with the control of information, based on the instructions and edicts of the same U.S. government agencies. Again, this is not a conspiratorial claim, it is self admitted and we have all witnessed it.

Today, however, we are seeing the architecture of how they plan to organize the tools.

[...]

Watch vid and RTWT

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/04/28/tucker-carlson-emphasizes-the-mission-priority-of-newest-dhs-agency-disinformation-governance-board/

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Posted by James Bowery on Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:40 | #

This is the head of the DHS’s Disinformation Governance Board, established in response to Musk buying Twitter to try and reign in the Swarm before it’s too late, telling us Hunter Biden’s laptop is a fairy tale just before the 2020 election while Twitter deleted anyone who promoted the story. But more importantly for the Swarm—she then promoted, as a faithful member of the Swarm, the narrative that it was all part of the “Russian Collusion” cope that springloaded the Swarm to head into WW III when Russia invaded Ukraine. Since then the Hunter Biden laptop has been accepted by all major media sources as reality. So, the head of DHS’s Disinformation Governance Board was responsible for one of the most damaging pieces of disinformation in the history of mankind and it related directly to the posture bringing us to nuclear war. Think about that. Just think. Calm down for a moment and THINK.

Nina Jankowicz On Hunter Bidens Laptop: A Fairy Tale

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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 30 Apr 2022 11:49 | #

Yuval Hariri Tells You What The Vaccines Really Do

The guru of our corrupt globalist elite really hates human beings too

Emerald Robinson
Apr 28

Let’s review what we do know about the new COVID gene alteration therapies that really distinguishes them from actual vaccines, shall we?

They don’t prevent you from getting COVID.

They don’t prevent you from spreading COVID.

They don’t limit the severity of COVID if you get infected.

In fact, they don’t do anything that vaccines are supposed to do. This raises aprofound question: what are they really supposed to do?
[...]
There happens to be an Israeli professor of history who has profoundly influenced Klaus Schwab and the global cartel of trans-humanist oligarchs — and he’s more than happy to tell you what the vaccines actually do. He’s the leading thinker, the arch-guru, of the Silicon Valley dictator set. His name is Yuval Hariri.

At one globalist conference, he explained exactly what the COVID pandemic was being used by the globalist elites to do: “COVID is critical because this is what convinces people to accept, to legitimize, total biometric surveillance. If we want to stop this epidemic — we need to not just monitor people, we need to monitor what is happening underneath their skin.”

Yuval Hariri has said similar things at many other conferences and lectures as well: “Maybe in a couple of decades, when people look back, the thing they will remember from the COVID crisis, is: this is the moment when everything went digital. This was the moment when everything became monitored — that we agreed to be surveilled all the time. Not just in authoritarian regimes but even in democracies. This was the moment when surveillance went under the skin.”
[...]

RTWT and make sure to watch his lecture.

https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/yuval-hariri-tells-you-what-the-vaccines?s=r&fbclid=IwAR1jjCHN3s7IEaUuo9hg9kfqCArHb4jd5K6iwddpxkhDC6Yy3XoRzLm8CI0

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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 01 May 2022 00:49 | #

How long will it be before London, Berlin, Paris ... and a slew of American cities are ‘glowing in 100s of thousand degrees of heat’ from Russian nuclear attacks?

Just now, 33 billion U.S. dollars have been given to Ukraine to fight against Russia.

We in the West are being led by fools.

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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 01 May 2022 10:55 | #

It is worth taking a deeper look at Harari, because that quote is a context thing. About three months back I watched a video of him talking about these matters, and what he said was the absolute opposite of that segment you quote. Something’s not right somewhere.

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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 01 May 2022 11:37 | #

GW, those were Emerald Robinson’s quotes. She goes on to contend that governments and global corporations used Covid as an opportunity “to [help] create a total surveillance system around the world that will ultimately control every human being.” Harari explains how and why that system is actually unfolding before our eyes.

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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 01 May 2022 14:02 | #

The Bolsheviks Make Their Move

https://westernrifleshooters.us/2022/04/30/the-bolsheviks-make-their-move/

BCE: Ministry Of Disinfo

https://westernrifleshooters.us/2022/04/30/bce-ministry-of-disinfo/

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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 04 May 2022 14:53 | #

Pope Frances should’ve been speaking out against the West’s provocations for the last 8 years now. But as they say: it’s better late than never.

‘Barking At Putin’s Door’: Pope Francis Suggests NATO Started War In Ukraine By Provoking Russia

[T]he pope suggested that the West could bear some responsibility for what he says may have been its provocation of Putin.

“Maybe it was NATO barking at Russia’s gate that compelled Putin to unleash the invasion of Ukraine,” Francis speculated in the interview with Corriere Della Sera. He repeated that he had “no way of telling whether his [Putin’s] rage” had been provoked, but added it was his suspicion the war was “maybe facilitated by the West’s attitude.”

He added: “You cannot think that a free state can wage war on another free state…In Ukraine, it seems that it was others who created the conflict.”

https://www.ibtimes.com/barking-putins-door-pope-francis-suggests-nato-started-war-ukraine-provoking-russia-3493028

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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 04 May 2022 17:36 | #

Why THEY Need World War III
Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc
3rd May 2022

There is no longer any doubt that NATO deliberately pushed Russia into invading Ukraine. Nor is there any doubt that this is not, by far, the most egregious military activity occurring at the moment. The wars in Yemen and Syria have killed far more people but have aroused little or no interest among Western politicians or journalists.

I don’t think anyone who has studied the evidence would disagree with the conclusion that Russia was inspired to invade Ukraine in order to help further the plans of those prosecuting the Great Reset. The West has deliberately pushed Putin into a corner – and demonised a whole nation – to create the war they need to help force us into the Great Reset and Schwab’s New World Order in which we will own nothing and be happy. You’ll own no house, no car, nothing. You’ll have no money. You’ll queue and be a slave to a digital world. Communism on speed.

https://vernoncoleman.org/videos/why-they-need-world-war-iii

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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 11 May 2022 02:18 | #

All Christian clergymen take a vow of Poverty , along with the rest of the Jewish - sourced claptrap .

Try to figure out the link between Jew - invented Christianity and Jew - invented Communism.

Stumped ?

Of course you are.

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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 11 May 2022 11:29 | #

“All Christian clergymen take a vow of Poverty,...”

lol

You never disappoint.

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Posted by Thorn on Tue, 17 May 2022 00:11 | #

Mom (God rest her soul) told me Muslims outnumber Christians thus if there’s ever a war between the two, Muslims will win. She added Muslims have more incentive to win….

GW, I think you understand why they will win, too.

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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 18 May 2022 00:15 | #

What if Putin embraced the LGBTQ agenda? ...If that was so, would he not—in the eyes of the Western elites—be a hero? (Of course, he would) But Putin doesn’t embrace moral perversion thus we’re experiencing what we’re experiencing. This is a war between decadent-morals against traditional-morals. I pray to God the Russians win.

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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 18 May 2022 02:23 | #

Mom said : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3RAKU1jfCM

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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 18 May 2022 11:09 | #

In the interests of fairness, let’s give a listen to the delusional side of the abortion debate. Babies should be killed before they are born because the climate might continue to fluctuate the way it always has:

Via the Libs of Tik Tok

COMPILATION: TikTokers discuss the ethics of bringing babies into this world because of climate change.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1524243383752876034?s=20&t=oT0T_8QFUxB-Tv6cB3fiyw

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Posted by Al Ross on Wed, 25 May 2022 03:31 | #

What do you care , you faker ? You are just another dumb votary of the Jew - borne spiritual Monkeypox .

If you had the merest hint of concern for your race , and one supposes that it is uneducated Aryan , benefits accrue because the Blacks and Latinos are the beneficiaries of Abortion.

And it necessarily follows that crimes against Whites should decrease.

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Posted by Thorn on Wed, 25 May 2022 10:44 | #

“What do you care , you faker ?”

I care not what an aberrant little dipshit like you has to say about anything.

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Posted by Thorn on Sat, 03 Dec 2022 21:07 | #

This is well worth the time. If nothing else, the info presented provides us with a very coherent fact-based refresher course plus some food for thought.

The Chris Hedges Report: The truth about Ukraine with Medea Benjamin

https://youtu.be/4fTxHIVUjRc

Premiered Nov 4, 2022
Peace activist and author Medea Benjamin joins The Chris Hedges Report to discuss the history of Ukraine as explained in her new book, War in Ukraine: Making Sense of a Senseless Conflict, co-authored with Nicholas Davies.

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Posted by Guessedworker on Sat, 08 Apr 2023 13:29 | #

From today’s live feed at the DT:

Ukrainians mourn dozens killed at rail hub one year ago

Ukrainians in the eastern city of Kramatorsk on Saturday laid flowers at a small memorial at the central train station one year after Russian missiles hit the transport hub, killing dozens.

The strikes on April 8 last year killed 61 people and injured more than 160 in one of the single deadliest attacks of the war, which targeted civilians fleeing Russia’s advance.

That was the point where nationalists should have understood Putin, detached from the misplaced anti-Western hostility, and informed themselves about the real nature of the struggle, which has nothing to do with the Donbas and everything to do with the Kremlin elites’ drive for The Globality on their murderous and totalitarian terms.

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