Pravy Sektor, Ukraine’s soldiers of the revolution Reports of the grave escalation of violence in Kiev’s iconic Independence Square, the Maidan, have contained references to “hard-line” and “neo-nazi” nationalists manning the barricades against assault by the riot police, and acting as the military wing of the protest. These guys are operating under an umbrella group named Pravy Sektor (Right Sector). Nationalists in the West have become accustomed to viewing Putin’s Russia both as a bulwark against the expansionism of the European Union and a proponent of traditional Russian values against the bromides of Western liberty and decadence. But Ukraine has its folk memories of the decades of Soviet rule ... of the Holodomir ... of the young men conscripted into the Red Army to be cannon fodder for the Wehrmacht ... of the arrests and deportations and disappearances into the gulag system ... of Chernobyl. The nationalist movement wants neither a Ukrainian future in the arms of Russia nor the European Union, and it is supplying men to fight for that right now in the Maidan at the cost of their liberty and, for some, their lives. In no particular order here are a few passages from press articles that have appeared over the last few weeks about these “hard-liners” and “neo-nazis”. Their thinking seems clear and their instincts pretty good to me. From The Guardian:
From RT:
From the Daily Telegraph:
From Time:
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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:42 | # Nick, it’s not an impossible game to sort out. Your depicting it as an insurmountable is more the problem, buying into this bit that has been presented as if it is clever, viz. “the phoney left right distinction” as a divide and conquer. Its more a matter of the Jews wanting to depict us as rightists than wanting us to fight right and left. Because the left is associated with social conscience and organization they want to depict us as rightists (and put the chill on social organization) - the left is the way to organize and that is why they don’t want us to be a White Left. The White Left/White Class is a racial distinction not an economic one, except after the point where one’s economic activities would betray the class. 3
Posted by Nick Dean on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:05 | # I already knew you take that view, DanielS, and now you know I do not. 4
Posted by Daniel A on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:36 | # Where fascism means little besides ethnonationalism coupled with freedom from Jewbankers and other basic protections for working people Amen! (Good to see you are still around Nick)
you can see how even mild antifascist talk gives satisfaction and future opportunity to their Jewish, globalist and hostile foreign enemies Indeed. Linder’s Variant of Conquest’s Second Law:
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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:58 | # Posted by Nick Dean on February 19, 2014, 03:05 PM | # I already knew you take that view, DanielS, and now you know I do not. I guess then your refuse to see that I’ve got the best of that, with felicity, but without its anachrnonisms and rigidities that mechanize life and send it headlong into catastrophe. 6
Posted by Nick Dean on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:36 | # Ayup , Danielj. Alex Linder is much under-rated. People who missed his really active writing phase in the early days of VNN can’t appreciate how gifted he is.
That’s the phrase I was searching for!
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Posted by Victory on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:21 | # Dugin on Ukraine: http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2014/01/united-by-hatred-interview-with.html
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Posted by Victory on Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:15 | # “JEWISH UKRAINIAN MAIDAN SELF-DEFENSE LEADER” http://www.lucorg.com/news.php/news/7316 “A cap instead of the kippah covering his head, a typical Jewish appearance – this young man could pass for a Yeshiva professor. However, he is one of the leading people in the complicated system of Maidan self-defense units and barricades on Hrushevsky Street [Hrushevskoho]....” 10
Posted by DanielS on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 09:29 | # ..... I’m not following the situation in Ukraine very closely, however, upon chat with a Ukrainian/Russian colleague of mine, a valid working hypothesis is emerging that: The Ukrainian uprising as manifest at present is an attempted hijacking of Ukrainian nationalism, by the usual suspects - channeling through the US, The EU and Israel. They are doing some things which we might like - asserting Ukrainian nationalism, language and blood. But they are doing it with such heavy handed implementation as to go beyond brinksmanship and into provocation of war. She tells me that they wish to outlaw Russian language in Ukraine and expel Russian nationals. They intend to make Russian citizens there more than a little uncomfortable - to the point where their lives may be endangered. My friend, who is of Ukrainian extraction, but has Russian citizenship and only speaks Russian and English fluently, not Ukrainian, is afraid even to visit her parents in Eastern Ukraine (who are Ukrainian but do not speak Ukrainian, having lived in a time when Russian speaking was the way). And her friend, also Ukrainian but having Russian citizenship, and able to speak Ukrainian, is afraid to return to her Western Ukrainian home town of L’viv. They believe that some people of Western Ukraine in particular might be disposed to violence against anyone who smacks of Russia. Russians have obviously had a long presence in Ukraine. Particularly in the East and in Crimea. While we support Ukrainian nationalism, we might note that this extreme nationalism is dangerous; and likely to be motivated to provoke serious conflict with Russia as punishment for their backing of Syria, Iran, etc. 11
Posted by DanielS on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 11:23 | # /..... иса: I think, you are right…I do not want to say that all all nationalists do it иса: but many of them are crazy daniel sienkiewicz: ok ncа: some of them are dangerous daniel sienkiewicz: right daniel sienkiewicz: and the comment does not say ALL nationalists do this. иса: yes daniel sienkiewicz: just that their movement has been hijacked and that there are some marginal anti Russian extremists иса: some people do not realize the real situation in Ukraine daniel sienkiewicz: go on риса: I mean Ukrainians риса: they think that Yulia Timoshenko can resolve all conflicts риса: but it`s not true daniel sienkiewicz: I heard she is Jewish. иса: They think that Uropien Community will give them rich life иса: it`s not true иса: they should work hard to improve the economical situation in Ukraine daniel sienkiewicz: even if the EU gives some people more money, it will bring Jewish/corporate destruction and non White immigration to Ukraine риса: Many Ukrainians work abroad иса: in Italy daniel sienkiewicz: and the money that they make there goes far when they come back to Ukraine,: whereas if they join the EU, all prices will go up in Ukraine иса: of course daniel sienkiewicz: иса: but they do not understand it daniel sienkiewicz: probably because the you know who have too much control in the organs of public information иса: Ukraine is so weak and poor daniel sienkiewicz: but rich in good people and resources. риса: yes daniel sienkiewicz: иса: but some people are stupid иса: sorry, but it`s true daniel sienkiewicz: yes daniel sienkiewicz: especially young girls, who see the allure of the west (*) and then empower stupid men to do their bidding. иса: yes daniel sienkiewicz: иса: ok…we`ll see, but it`s very sad daniel sienkiewicz: tragic 12
Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 12:00 | # Wiki says Tymoshenko is at least a quarter Jewish:
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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 13:40 | # Flashback 2011: “George Soros Preparing Libya Scenario For Ukraine” Said Ukraine Leading Political Party
Apparently George Soros along with EU/USA operatives, including John McCain and Victoria Nuland have been busily working to turn Ukraine upside down for many years now. They’re just itching to flood Ukraine with non-white third worlders.
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Posted by DanielS on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 16:04 | # “Apparently George Soros along with EU/USA operatives, including John McCain and Victoria Nuland have been busily working to turn Ukraine upside down for many years now. They’re just itching to flood Ukraine with non-white third worlders.” Glenn Beck going on American network television and proposing an elaborate theory that George Soros is the one behind all of America’s problems provides a clue that Jewish interests are willing to sacrifice him as the scape goat. As I recall the reasons are obvious: 1) he is very old 2) he is not particularly loyal to Israel. 3) he was looked upon as one who was selling-out other Jews during World War II 15
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 16:28 | # @14 You may be on to something there, Danny. That might explain the reason why Ilana Mercer holds Soros partially responsible for what’s taking place in Ukraine, but I doubt it.
Exclusive: Ilana Mercer drubs American media for their ‘anti-Putin monomania’ Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/presstitute-cultivated-ignorance-on-ukraine/#FXBxFYxux3Hu2JLC.99 16
Posted by DanielS on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 16:59 | # Well, If Ilana Mercer and Stephen Cohen said it, must be true. 17
Posted by Thorn on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:52 | # HEH! My apologies, Danny. But I couldn’t resist posting that link. 18
Posted by Lurker on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:54 | #
That’s a shame, she’s a damn fine looking woman. Not that I’m shallow or anything. 19
Posted by wobbly on Thu, 27 Feb 2014 07:36 | # Sometimes two reasonable nationalisms collide. 1) Putin fending off the neocon seige of Russia. 2) Ukraine nationalists of various stripes wanting self-determination for their particular nation and/or freedom from the banking mafia (both of which are necessary). Putin would be best off with all those who feel Russian in one nation-state and at the same time work to create a buffer zone around Russia of small states run by anti-EU and anti banking mafia nationalists. It doesn’t matter if they’re not pro-Russian as long as they are pro self-determination and anti banking mafia. 20
Posted by Leon Haller on Fri, 28 Feb 2014 05:20 | # The really important thing for Western nationalists is that we emphasize the RACIAL aspects of nationalism. No more European ethnic groups killing each other. 21
Posted by DanielS on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 18:18 | # .................... [18:41:55]: How are you ? [18:42:16]have you heard of the events in Ukraine ? [19:25:07] daniel: hi lara, no, haven’t heard..what’s up? is Russia taking the eastern provinces? [19:27:03]: no [19:27:14]daniel: what’s happening? [19:27:25]: Soldiers were sent there [19:27:32]: from Kiev [19:27:45]: there were some victims [19:30:00] daniel: soldiers were sent to the east? [19:30:59]: yes [19:31:05]: from Kiev [19:31:09]: tanks [19:31:13] daniel: wow [19:31:17] daniel: ..but.. [19:31:20] : it`s true [19:31:28] daniel: what is Putin to do? [19:31:34] : nothing [19:31:42] : What can he do ? [19:32:18 daniel: America’s Jews (Victoria Nuland) have said they’ve spent Billions to try to instigate Ukrinian nationalist unrest against Russia [19:33:27] :( [19:34:12] : There are some soldiers who do not speak Ukrainian [19:34:32] : they were paid [19:35:47] daniel: well, I believe its important for Russians and Ukrainians both to keep in mind that it is Jewish interests that derive benefit from fomenting this kind of violence… [19:35:54] daniel: and as usual, they play both sides. [19:36:17] daniel: but it is European people who die and who lose. [19:36:40] : :( [19:36:54] daniel: Jews :( [19:36:58] : yes [19:37:21 | daniel: Khodorkovsky was interviewed by CNN.. [19:37:32]: ??????????? [19:37:36] daniel: they refered to him as a dissident [19:38:40] daniel: “dissident” [19:38:45] : as if he is.. alexander solzhenitsyn [19:39:24] : situation is so dangerous there [19:39:43] а: it can be the beginning of the war in Ukraine [19:39:57] : but the ukrainian nationlalists are being used.. [19:40:10] : no good can come of fighting. [19:40:45] daniel: the only thing to do is to let Russia break off the eastern provinces along with Crimea [19:41:08] daniel: and give the rest of Ukraine more sovereignty…which means NOT entry into the EU [19:42:20]: Russia cannot do it [19:42:28] daniel: cannot do what? [19:42:51]: it`s Ukraine`s business [19:42:57] daniel: right [19:42:59] daniel: but [19:43:56] daniel: the good Russian nationalists can support the good Ukrainian nationalists and the good other nationalist to ensure that Ukrainian nationalism is neither under the control of Russia or the EU. [19:44:42 daniel: EU means mosques, Arabs, Africans, Jewish, corporate, international banker control. [19:44:57] daniel ..turks.. [19:45:02] daniel: more gypsies.. [19:45:26] : yes [19:45:35] daniel: more mongrelization with Jews.. [19:45:53 | daniel: as all the bastards of the Israeli’s White slave trade come back to Ukraine [19:46:27] daniel: they have Jewish fathers, not mothers… [19:46:34] : yes [19:46:34] daniel: they are not welcome in Israel [19:46:37] daniel: where do they go? [19:46:46] : Ukraine [19:46:48] daniel: yes [19:47:01] daniel: and they are smart, good looking [19:47:15] daniel: cunning and they hate European people. [19:48:04] : I know it.. [19:48:15] daniel: I know you know [19:48:32] daniel: just want to be confirming of what you know to let you know that I know as well.. [19:48:38] daniel: so that I can be supportive. [19:49:16] daniel: its horrible Lara [19:49:26] daniel: but there are a couple of encouraging things.. [19:49:44 | daniel: the world is becoming more aware of this.. [19:50:22] daniel: and…Jews are still a small population ..and the conservtative Jews who are having the most offspring are not as smart as the liberal ashkenazi, who are not having as many .. [19:50:52] : We`ll see what will be in Ukraine 22
Posted by sasha butakov on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:44 | # “Praviy” is “truthfull” for Russian and Ukrainian languagies. 23
Posted by DanielS on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:58 | # If you would, Sasha, please elaborate on “Yarosh philosophy”, where it comes from, etc. Post a comment:
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Posted by Nick Dean on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:23 | #
Obviously far, far better than, say, the EDL, but they do accept too many of the opposition’s basic assumptions; that one must abjure fascism, that they are of the right.
Where fascism means little besides ethnonationalism coupled with freedom from Jewbankers and other basic protections for working people, you can see how even mild antifascist talk gives satisfaction and future opportunity to their Jewish, globalist and hostile foreign enemies. When asked about fascism they should aggressively point the finger back at the anti-fascist questioner; “Fascists aren’t the problem; it’s anti-fascists like you who want to see Africa and Asia colonize Ukraine; anti-fascists like you who are linked financially and ideologically with global vulture capitalism, etc.”
And our peoples have been divided right vs left, pretty much right down the middle for generations now. What better evidence could there be that the right/left polarity is precisely a well-crafted tactic of a divide and conquer strategy? When fully half the population rejects either the right or the left on sight then neither can be any good for society as a whole and nationalists, by definition concerned with the people as a whole, should speak over that petty, divisive discussion. Once again, there’s an opportunity here to point an accusing finger at their political opposition still manipulating and exploiting the people with this tired game. “Who the fuck cares whether a centre right or centre left party reigns in Kiev if both are committed to the de-Ukraining of Kiev and all Ukraine?”