Pravy Sektor, Ukraine’s soldiers of the revolution

Posted by Guessedworker on Wednesday, 19 February 2014 05:24.

Reports of the grave escalation of violence in Kiev’s iconic Independence Square, the Maidan, have contained references to “hard-line” and “neo-nazi” nationalists manning the barricades against assault by the riot police, and acting as the military wing of the protest.  These guys are operating under an umbrella group named Pravy Sektor (Right Sector).  Nationalists in the West have become accustomed to viewing Putin’s Russia both as a bulwark against the expansionism of the European Union and a proponent of traditional Russian values against the bromides of Western liberty and decadence.  But Ukraine has its folk memories of the decades of Soviet rule ... of the Holodomir ... of the young men conscripted into the Red Army to be cannon fodder for the Wehrmacht ... of the arrests and deportations and disappearances into the gulag system ... of Chernobyl.  The nationalist movement wants neither a Ukrainian future in the arms of Russia nor the European Union, and it is supplying men to fight for that right now in the Maidan at the cost of their liberty and, for some, their lives.

In no particular order here are a few passages from press articles that have appeared over the last few weeks about these “hard-liners” and “neo-nazis”.  Their thinking seems clear and their instincts pretty good to me.

From The Guardian:

Pravy Sektor, a murky grouping of nationalist and far-right groups, has said it is co-ordinating the violence, and the coalition represents very different ideals from the initial protest goal of closer links with the European Union.

Andriy Tarasenko, one of Pravy Sektor’s co-ordinators, agreed to meet the Guardian in a cafe in central Kiev. Wearing a rollneck jumper and with a quiet voice, he seemed a far cry from the warriors on the street, but his message was clear.

“For us, Europe is not an issue, in fact joining with Europe would be the death of Ukraine. Europe means the death of the nation state and the death of Christianity. We want a Ukraine for Ukrainians, run by Ukrainians, and not serving the interests of others.”

Tarasenko said the goal of the group was a “national revolution” that would result in a “national democracy” with none of the trappings of the “totalitarian liberalism” that the EU represents for him.

...  it is clear that the popularity of Pravy Sektor is growing and that many of those lobbing molotov cocktails and preparing for all-out battle are influenced by their ideas.

Tarasenko said it was hard to say how many active members of Pravy Sektor there were, but noted that its page on the social network Vkontakte had more than 50,000 members. On the barricades, “hundreds are quickly turning into thousands”, he claimed.

... Pravy Sektor says that if Yanukovych does not resign, he should be forced out.

“We would give him and his family 24 hours to leave the country, or there would be a revolutionary tribunal,” said Tarasenko. Asked what he thought the most likely medium-term outcome of the clashes would be, he said: “Prolonged guerrilla warfare.”

From RT:

But who are these grim-faced people in helmets and camouflage at the streets of Kiev, armed with stones and batons, very determined and hardly controlled by anyone? Meet the new breed of Ukrainian revolutionaries – ‘Pravy Sektor’ (Right Sector) radical movement, which has recently announced it is breaking away from the mainstream Maidan opposition crowd with its moderate leaders and decided to act on its own.

Here is a quote from the Pravy Sektor manifesto, announced early this month when Ukrainian radicals staged their first attacks on the police. Prepare to be energized by a surprisingly large dose of odd neo-Bolshevik rhetoric which has paved its way into the post-industrial world: “All those who at this point would try to tame the revolutionary energy of the masses should be proclaimed traitors and punished in the most severe way. The time of peaceful singing and dancing at Maidan is over. This is waste of time. There can be no negotiations, no compromise with the ruling gang. We will carry high the fire of national revolution.”

Initially, Pravy Sektor members were calling themselves ‘the Maidan self-defense force’, which was assigned by the main trio of opposition leaders – Vitaly Klitschko, Arseny Yatsenyuk and Oleg Tyagnibok to provide the security of peaceful protestors and repel any attempt of the Berkut riot police to remove protestors’ tents and disperse the crowd from the Ukrainian capital’s main square.

The core of Pravy sektor is made of the activists of radical groups, including ‘Trizub’, ‘Patriot of Ukraine’, as well as UNA-UNSO and the ‘Svoboda’ (Freedom) ultra-right party, which made international headlines after winning nearly 10 percent of votes at the last parliamentary election in Ukraine.

From the Daily Telegraph:

Pravy Sektor, or Right Sector, emerged as an alliance of far right groups when the protests began in November. They have since become strong enough to take the initiative away from the mainstream opposition. And their members say bluntly they are at war.

“We are young, we don’t have children or wives, and that means we are able to give our lives for the revolution,” said M. “I joined because my younger brother said he was going to go. And at that point, I had to say I would go instead.” He added: “Joining was like jumping out of a plane: there is nothing underneath you and you don’t know where you are going to land.

Psychologically it was a pretty difficult thing to do. I cried when I left. So did my mother.”

The rise of Pravy Sektor shows how sentiment among the pro-European opposition has changed - and how far things could go if a compromise is not reached. This group has never accepted the idea of peaceful protest — members openly say that Mr Yanukovych will only be evicted by violent revolution.

That was not always a popular view. When the group first gained notoriety after violent clashes with police in Kiev on December 1, most protesters dismissed them as provocateurs, possibly paid by the government. Now, ordinary demonstrators confront the police alongside Pravy Sektor activists.

“We were right, and they were wrong - and now they are beginning to realise it,” said one coordinator for the group, who gave his name only as Mstislav.

Pravy Sektor is extremely secretive. The leaders are anonymous and none will reveal how many men are at their command. The group probably originated among neo-Nazis and football hooligans. Both Mstislav and M denied having anything to do with “fascists” - though Mstislav conceded that “it’s a big organisation, and there could be some people like that”.

From Time:

In his interview with TIME, Yarosh, whose militant brand of nationalism rejects all foreign influence over Ukrainian affairs, revealed for the first time that Pravy Sektor has amassed a lethal arsenal of weapons. He declined to say exactly how many guns they have. “It is enough,” he says, “to defend all of Ukraine from the internal occupiers” — by which he means the ruling government — and to carry on the revolution if negotiations with that government break down.

... On Tuesday, the parliament began debating a sweeping reform of the constitution, while allies of President Viktor Yanukovych suggested for the first time that he is ready to consider early elections. Both moves would mark a major breakthrough. But Yarosh, watching from the sidelines, has begun to doubt whether the negotiators have the interests of his men at heart. “This whole peaceful song and dance, the standing around, the negotiations, none of it has brought real change.” Dozens of his men, he says, remain behind bars after their street battles against police two weeks ago.

But neither can Klitschko and his fellow politicians easily sever their ties with Pravy Sektor. The group serves some of the uprising’s most essential functions. Its fighters control the barricades around the protest camp in the center of Ukraine’s capital, and when riot police have tried to tear it down, they have been on the front lines beating them back with clubs, rocks, Molotov cocktails and even a few catapults, in the mold of siege engines of the Middle Ages. Around the country, its fighters have helped seize government headquarters in more than a dozen cities. “Pravy Sektor has proved its loyalty to the ideals of freedom,” Yarosh says. “Now we needed to present this movement as a source of leadership.”

In any kind of fair election, that would be nearly impossible. Pravy Sektor’s ideology borders on fascism, and it enjoys support only from Ukraine’s most hard-line nationalists, a group too small to secure them a place in parliament. But taking part in the democratic process is not part of Yarosh’s strategy. “We are not politicians,” he says in his office, a pack of Lucky Strikes and a walkie-talkie on the table in front of him, while a sentry in a black ski mask and bulletproof vest stands by the door. “We are soldiers of the national revolution.” His entire adult life has been spent waiting for such a revolution to “steer the country in a new direction, one that would make it truly strong, not dependent on either the West or the East.”



Comments:


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Posted by Nick Dean on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:23 | #

Obviously far, far better than, say, the EDL, but they do accept too many of the opposition’s basic assumptions; that one must abjure fascism, that they are of the right.

Where fascism means little besides ethnonationalism coupled with freedom from Jewbankers and other basic protections for working people, you can see how even mild antifascist talk gives satisfaction and future opportunity to their Jewish, globalist and hostile foreign enemies. When asked about fascism they should aggressively point the finger back at the anti-fascist questioner; “Fascists aren’t the problem; it’s anti-fascists like you who want to see Africa and Asia colonize Ukraine; anti-fascists like you who are linked financially and ideologically with global vulture capitalism, etc.”

And our peoples have been divided right vs left, pretty much right down the middle for generations now. What better evidence could there be that the right/left polarity is precisely a well-crafted tactic of a divide and conquer strategy? When fully half the population rejects either the right or the left on sight then neither can be any good for society as a whole and nationalists, by definition concerned with the people as a whole, should speak over that petty, divisive discussion. Once again, there’s an opportunity here to point an accusing finger at their political opposition still manipulating and exploiting the people with this tired game. “Who the fuck cares whether a centre right or centre left party reigns in Kiev if both are committed to the de-Ukraining of Kiev and all Ukraine?”


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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:42 | #

Nick, it’s not an impossible game to sort out. Your depicting it as an insurmountable is more the problem, buying into this bit that has been presented as if it is clever, viz. “the phoney left right distinction” as a divide and conquer. Its more a matter of the Jews wanting to depict us as rightists than wanting us to fight right and left. Because the left is associated with social conscience and organization they want to depict us as rightists (and put the chill on social organization) - the left is the way to organize and that is why they don’t want us to be a White Left.

The White Left/White Class is a racial distinction not an economic one, except after the point where one’s economic activities would betray the class.

http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/yes_the_white_race_is_a_social_construct_contrary_to_jewish_and_right_wing


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Posted by Nick Dean on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:05 | #

I already knew you take that view, DanielS, and now you know I do not.


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Posted by Daniel A on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:36 | #

Where fascism means little besides ethnonationalism coupled with freedom from Jewbankers and other basic protections for working people

Amen! (Good to see you are still around Nick)


Fascism is about ending the giant folk-fucking subtrahend that usury, rent, middlemen and fencers of all varieties impose upon the economy and the surplus created by working folks. That and ethnonationalism.

you can see how even mild antifascist talk gives satisfaction and future opportunity to their Jewish, globalist and hostile foreign enemies

Indeed. Linder’s Variant of Conquest’s Second Law:

Any organization not explicity counter-semitic sooner or later becomes anti-white

 


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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:58 | #

Posted by Nick Dean on February 19, 2014, 03:05 PM | #

I already knew you take that view, DanielS, and now you know I do not.

I guess then your refuse to see that I’ve got the best of that, with felicity, but without its anachrnonisms and rigidities that mechanize life and send it headlong into catastrophe.


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Posted by Nick Dean on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:36 | #

Ayup , Danielj.

Alex Linder is much under-rated. People who missed his really active writing phase in the early days of VNN can’t appreciate how gifted he is.

giant folk-fucking subtrahend

That’s the phrase I was searching for!

 

 

 


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Posted by DanielS on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:55 | #

Better than Heil Hitler, I suppose


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Posted by Victory on Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:21 | #

Dugin on Ukraine:

http://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2014/01/united-by-hatred-interview-with.html

What are the main groups? Who is dominating the oppositional actions?

Dugin: These are clearly the most violent neo-Nazi groups of the so called Euro-Maidan. They push for violence and provoke a civil war situation in Kiev.

The Western Mainstream media claims that the role of those extremist groups is dramatized by the pro-Russian media to defame the whole oppositional alliance.

Dugin: Of course they do. How else can they justify that the EU and the European governments support extremist, racist, neo-Nazis outside the EU’s borders, while inside the EU they take melodramatic and extreme action against even the most moderate right wing groups?

...

Dugin: What would happen if a neo-Nazi organization supported Putin in Russia or Yanukovych in Ukraine?

The EU would start a political campaign; all huge western mainstream media would cover this and scandalize it.

Dugin: Exactly that’s the case. So it is only about on which side such a group stands. If the group is against Putin, against Yanukovych, against Russia, the ideology of that group is not a problem. If that group supports Putin, Russia or Yanukovych, the ideology immediately becomes a huge problem. It is all about the geopolitical side the group takes. It is nothing but geopolitics. It is a very good lesson what is going on in Ukraine. The lesson tells us: Geopolitics is dominating those conflicts and nothing else. We witness this also with other conflicts, for example in Syria, Libya, Egypt, in the Caucasian region, Iraq, Iran…

Any group taking side in favor of the West is a “good” group with no respect if it is extremist?

Dugin: Yes and any group taking sides against the West – even if this group is secular and moderate – will be called “extremist” by the Western propaganda. This approach exactly dominates the geopolitical battlefields today. You can be the most radical and brutal Salafi fighter, you can hate Jews and eat human organs in front of a camera, as long as you fight for the Western interest against the Syrian government. You will be a respected and supported ally of the West. When you defend a multi-religious, secular and moderate society, all ideals of the West by the way, but you take a position against the Western interest, like the Syrian government, you are the enemy. Nobody is interested in what you believe in, it is all about the geopolitical side you chose, whether you are right or wrong in the eyes of the Western hegemon.

 


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Posted by Victory on Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:15 | #

“JEWISH UKRAINIAN MAIDAN SELF-DEFENSE LEADER”

http://www.lucorg.com/news.php/news/7316

“A cap instead of the kippah covering his head, a typical Jewish appearance – this young man could pass for a Yeshiva professor. However, he is one of the leading people in the complicated system of Maidan self-defense units and barricades on Hrushevsky Street [Hrushevskoho]....”


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Posted by DanielS on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 09:29 | #

.....

I’m not following the situation in Ukraine very closely, however, upon chat with a Ukrainian/Russian colleague of mine, a valid working hypothesis is emerging that:

The Ukrainian uprising as manifest at present is an attempted hijacking of Ukrainian nationalism, by the usual suspects - channeling through the US, The EU and Israel.

They are doing some things which we might like - asserting Ukrainian nationalism, language and blood. But they are doing it with such heavy handed implementation as to go beyond brinksmanship and into provocation of war.

She tells me that they wish to outlaw Russian language in Ukraine and expel Russian nationals.

They intend to make Russian citizens there more than a little uncomfortable - to the point where their lives may be endangered.

My friend, who is of Ukrainian extraction, but has Russian citizenship and only speaks Russian and English fluently, not Ukrainian, is afraid even to visit her parents in Eastern Ukraine (who are Ukrainian but do not speak Ukrainian, having lived in a time when Russian speaking was the way).

And her friend, also Ukrainian but having Russian citizenship, and able to speak Ukrainian, is afraid to return to her Western Ukrainian home town of L’viv. They believe that some people of Western Ukraine in particular might be disposed to violence against anyone who smacks of Russia.

Russians have obviously had a long presence in Ukraine. Particularly in the East and in Crimea. While we support Ukrainian nationalism, we might note that this extreme nationalism is dangerous; and likely to be motivated to provoke serious conflict with Russia as punishment for their backing of Syria, Iran, etc.
.........


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Posted by DanielS on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 11:23 | #

/.....
what do you think?

иса: I think, you are right…I do not want to say that all all nationalists do it

иса: but many of them are crazy

daniel sienkiewicz: ok

ncа: some of them are dangerous

daniel sienkiewicz: right

daniel sienkiewicz: and the comment does not say ALL nationalists do this.

иса: yes

daniel sienkiewicz: just that their movement has been hijacked and that there are some marginal anti Russian extremists

иса: some people do not realize the real situation in Ukraine

daniel sienkiewicz: go on

риса: I mean Ukrainians

риса: they think that Yulia Timoshenko can resolve all conflicts

риса: but it`s not true

daniel sienkiewicz: smile

I heard she is Jewish.

иса: They think that Uropien Community will give them rich life

иса: it`s not true

иса: they should work hard to improve the economical situation in Ukraine

daniel sienkiewicz: even if the EU gives some people more money, it will bring Jewish/corporate destruction and non White immigration to Ukraine

риса: Many Ukrainians work abroad

иса: in Italy
иса: in Poland
иса: and so on

daniel sienkiewicz: and the money that they make there goes far when they come back to Ukraine,: whereas if they join the EU, all prices will go up in Ukraine

иса: of course

daniel sienkiewicz: smile

иса: but they do not understand it

daniel sienkiewicz: probably because the you know who have too much control in the organs of public information

иса: Ukraine is so weak and poor

daniel sienkiewicz: but rich in good people and resources.

риса: yes

daniel sienkiewicz: smile

иса: but some people are stupid

иса: sorry, but it`s true

daniel sienkiewicz: yes

daniel sienkiewicz: especially young girls, who see the allure of the west (*) and then empower stupid men to do their bidding.

иса: yes

daniel sienkiewicz: smile

иса: ok…we`ll see,  but it`s very sad

daniel sienkiewicz: tragic


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Posted by Guessedworker on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 12:00 | #

Wiki says Tymoshenko is at least a quarter Jewish:

Her father, Volodymyr Abramovych Hrihyan— who abandoned Lyudmila Telehina and his daughter when Yulia was three years old[13]—was born December 3, 1937, in Dnipropetrovsk and was according to his Soviet passport Latvian.[12] His mother was Maria Yosypivna Hrihyan, born in 1909.[12] His father was Abram Kelmanovych Kapitelman (Ukrainian: Абрам Кельманович Капітельман, born in 1914); after graduating from Dnipropetrovsk State University in 1940 Kapitalman was sent to work in Western Ukraine, where he worked “one academic quarter” as the director of a public Jewish school in the city Sniatyn.


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 13:40 | #

Flashback 2011: “George Soros Preparing Libya Scenario For Ukraine” Said Ukraine Leading Political Party


Leading party says Soros prepares “Libyan scenario” for Ukraine

Ukraine’s leading political party has said that the international financier George Soros has been preparing a “Lybian scenario” for the country.

­The head of the Party of Regions parliamentary faction Aleksandr Yefremov said in a televised comment on Wednesday that he had information that George Soros had allocated funds for the overthrow of the Ukrainian political authorities.

“I even have information that Soros has allocated certain funds in order to prepare a certain group of young boys here in Ukraine who could launch any existing projects based on the North Africa examples,” Yefremov said. He also added that he hoped that the Ukrainian people will be wise enough not to follow such provocations.

The information about George Soros’s involvement in Ukrainian politics was openly voiced by Yulia Timoshenko in 2008. Timoshenko, then the country’s prime minister, said that she was attempting to minimize the effect of the global financial crisis by following George Soros’s advice. This raised suspicions that through such advice George Soros could influence the rate of the Ukrainian national currency in his own speculative interests. Several officials from president Yushchenko’s administration said they wanted to launch a probe into Soros’ Ukrainian activities, but it did not happen.

It was only in 2010 that the Ukrainian State Security Service started to check the activities of the Vozrozdeniye foundation, officially sponsored by Soros, and its ties with other Ukrainian NGOs, but this probe gave no feasible results.

{snip}

http://rt.com/politics/leading-party-soros-prepares/

Apparently George Soros along with EU/USA operatives, including John McCain and Victoria Nuland have been busily working to turn Ukraine upside down for many years now. They’re just itching to flood Ukraine with non-white third worlders.

 


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Posted by DanielS on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 16:04 | #

“Apparently George Soros along with EU/USA operatives, including John McCain and Victoria Nuland have been busily working to turn Ukraine upside down for many years now. They’re just itching to flood Ukraine with non-white third worlders.”

Glenn Beck going on American network television and proposing an elaborate theory that George Soros is the one behind all of America’s problems provides a clue that Jewish interests are willing to sacrifice him as the scape goat.

As I recall the reasons are obvious: 1) he is very old 2) he is not particularly loyal to Israel. 3) he was looked upon as one who was selling-out other Jews during World War II
..


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 16:28 | #

@14

You may be on to something there, Danny. That might explain the reason why Ilana Mercer holds Soros partially responsible for what’s taking place in Ukraine, but I doubt it.


Presstitute-cultivated ignorance on Ukraine

Exclusive: Ilana Mercer drubs American media for their ‘anti-Putin monomania’

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/presstitute-cultivated-ignorance-on-ukraine/#FXBxFYxux3Hu2JLC.99


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Posted by DanielS on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 16:59 | #

Well, If Ilana Mercer and Stephen Cohen said it, must be true.


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Posted by Thorn on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:52 | #

HEH!

My apologies, Danny. But I couldn’t resist posting that link.


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Posted by Lurker on Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:54 | #

Wiki says Tymoshenko is at least a quarter Jewish

That’s a shame, she’s a damn fine looking woman. Not that I’m shallow or anything.


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Posted by wobbly on Thu, 27 Feb 2014 07:36 | #

Sometimes two reasonable nationalisms collide.

1) Putin fending off the neocon seige of Russia.

2) Ukraine nationalists of various stripes wanting self-determination for their particular nation and/or freedom from the banking mafia (both of which are necessary).

Putin would be best off with all those who feel Russian in one nation-state and at the same time work to create a buffer zone around Russia of small states run by anti-EU and anti banking mafia nationalists. It doesn’t matter if they’re not pro-Russian as long as they are pro self-determination and anti banking mafia.


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Posted by Leon Haller on Fri, 28 Feb 2014 05:20 | #

The really important thing for Western nationalists is that we emphasize the RACIAL aspects of nationalism. No more European ethnic groups killing each other.


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Posted by DanielS on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 18:18 | #

....................
Hello !

[18:41:55]: How are you ?

[18:42:16]have you heard of the events in Ukraine ?

[19:25:07] daniel: hi lara, no, haven’t heard..what’s up? is Russia taking the eastern provinces?

[19:27:03]: no

[19:27:14]daniel: what’s happening?

[19:27:25]: Soldiers were sent there

[19:27:32]: from Kiev

[19:27:45]: there were some victims

[19:30:00] daniel: soldiers were sent to the east?

[19:30:59]: yes

[19:31:05]: from Kiev

[19:31:09]: tanks

[19:31:13] daniel: wow

[19:31:17] daniel: ..but..

[19:31:20] : it`s true

[19:31:28] daniel: what is Putin to do?

[19:31:34] : nothing

[19:31:42] : What can he do ?

[19:32:18 daniel: America’s Jews (Victoria Nuland) have said they’ve spent Billions to try to instigate Ukrinian nationalist unrest against Russia

[19:33:27]  :(

[19:34:12] : There are some soldiers who do not speak Ukrainian

[19:34:32] : they were paid

[19:35:47] daniel: well, I believe its important for Russians and Ukrainians both to keep in mind that it is Jewish interests that derive benefit from fomenting this kind of violence…

[19:35:54] daniel: and as usual, they play both sides.

[19:36:17] daniel: but it is European people who die and who lose.

[19:36:40] : :(

[19:36:54] daniel: Jews :(

[19:36:58] : yes

[19:37:21 | daniel: Khodorkovsky was interviewed by CNN..

[19:37:32]: ???????????

[19:37:36] daniel: they refered to him as a dissident

[19:38:40] daniel: “dissident”

[19:38:45] : as if he is.. alexander solzhenitsyn

[19:39:24] : situation is so dangerous there

[19:39:43] а: it can be the beginning of the war in Ukraine

[19:39:57] : but the ukrainian nationlalists are being used..

[19:40:10] : no good can come of fighting.

[19:40:45] daniel: the only thing to do is to let Russia break off the eastern provinces along with Crimea

[19:41:08] daniel: and give the rest of Ukraine more sovereignty…which means NOT entry into the EU

[19:42:20]: Russia cannot do it

[19:42:28] daniel: cannot do what?

[19:42:51]:  it`s Ukraine`s business

[19:42:57] daniel: right

[19:42:59] daniel: but

[19:43:56] daniel: the good Russian nationalists can support the good Ukrainian nationalists and the good other nationalist to ensure that Ukrainian nationalism is neither under the control of Russia or the EU.

[19:44:42 daniel: EU means mosques, Arabs, Africans, Jewish, corporate, international banker control.

[19:44:57] daniel ..turks..

[19:45:02] daniel: more gypsies..

[19:45:26] : yes

[19:45:35] daniel: more mongrelization with Jews..

[19:45:53 | daniel: as all the bastards of the Israeli’s White slave trade come back to Ukraine

[19:46:27] daniel: they have Jewish fathers, not mothers…

[19:46:34] : yes

[19:46:34] daniel: they are not welcome in Israel

[19:46:37] daniel: where do they go?

[19:46:46] : Ukraine

[19:46:48] daniel: yes

[19:47:01] daniel: and they are smart, good looking

[19:47:15] daniel: cunning and they hate European people.

[19:48:04] : I know it..

[19:48:15] daniel: I know you know

[19:48:32] daniel: just want to be confirming of what you know to let you know that I know as well..

[19:48:38] daniel: so that I can be supportive.

[19:49:16] daniel: its horrible Lara

[19:49:26] daniel: but there are a couple of encouraging things..

[19:49:44 | daniel: the world is becoming more aware of this..

[19:50:22] daniel: and…Jews are still a small population ..and the conservtative Jews who are having the most offspring are not as smart as the liberal ashkenazi, who are not having as many ..

[19:50:52] : We`ll see what will be in Ukraine


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Posted by sasha butakov on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:44 | #

“Praviy” is “truthfull” for Russian and Ukrainian languagies.
But for Yarosh bands it means a power to kill Russians and Russian speaking Ukrainians.
It’s their goal and sense of life, indeed.
A power to kill anybody thinking Russian and being Russians.
You’re not “praviy”? You dead!
What’s more you need to know about Yarosh “philosophy”?


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Posted by DanielS on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:58 | #

If you would, Sasha, please elaborate on “Yarosh philosophy”, where it comes from, etc.



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