The attack has begun

Posted by Guessedworker on Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:02.

Just as we saw in the run up to last May’s European Parliament elections, the media is cranking up its BNP “coverage”.  Yesterday we were treated to a nearly balanced opener from the Sunday Times.  Today we were given articles in the Telegraph here and, pathetically, here, in the Mail here and, obliquely, in the Independent here.

I suspect that the attack will take on a different, more focussed form this time.  The BNP are standing a record 326 candidates.  But that’s little more than half the constituencies throughout the country, and the constituencies where the party has a chance of doing well are limited to three or four, all with a current big Labour majority.  The two most realistic chances are Barking and Dagenham, where Richard Barnbrook “agreed” to stand aside for Nick Griffin, and Stoke Central, where Alby Walker did not agree to stand aside for Simon Darby (but had to anyway).  Emma Colgate could poll respectably in Thurrock, notwithstanding the fact that nobody is totally sure whether she is in or out of the party following the last (and let us hope it is the last) Collett affair.  Roger Roberts may do likewise in Dewsbury.

As for the rest, including the council elections on the same day, the objective has to be to show a presence, to increase support (in terms of second and third places where fourths and fifths were had previously), to save deposits, and to build, build, build.  To that end, it is a little strange that the party is campaigning on three principal issues: withdrawal from Afghanistan, a halt to the immigration invasion, and an end to the ‘Global Warming’ conspiracy.  The voting public’s first concern is for the economy and jobs.  But the BNP seems not to understand how to address that (bringing some economic literacy on-board would seem a good start).  Also high on the list of concerns is the related issue of the unaccountability of Westminster and corruption of the political class.  But, again, it is not a major issue in party thinking.

Personally, I would like to see them campaign hard for freedom of speech and association, and an end to cultural warfare in public life, most especially in education (it will have to do so anyway if it wants to attract support from the Conservative/UKIP voting middle-classes).  All told, there is an extraordinary opportunity for the party to sculpt a powerful, attractive and wholly unique ideological niche for itself, and one that the left cannot reply to with the usual smears.

As Simon Heffer noted last week of the mainstream parties:

the choice of voting for staying in Europe or staying in Europe, massive immigration or massive immigration, an enormous and unnecessary public sector or an enormous and unnecessary public sector and more mind-numbing political correctness or more mind-numbing political correctness.

Heffer is a right-wing Tory, and is appealing for a right-wing Tory platform.  But his point holds true for the BNP as well.  Does anyone feel that it is responding appropriately?

Perhaps part of the problem is that, regardless of what they do, growth in support for the party is “inevitable”.  In 2005 it achieved 0.7% of the vote, totalling 192,746 votes, a performance which was three times better than in 2001.  General elections tend to see the votes of minor parties squeezed.  But a performance that is very far adrift of the 940,000 votes in May’s Europeans, or around 3.5% of the 2005 total of 27,110,727, will be taken as a disappointment in the circumstances.

Of course, the media may have something to say about that as well.



Comments:


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Posted by Eddie Booth on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:21 | #

One very welcome development in the continental European countries blessed with a system of proportional representation is that the anti-immigration parties have come to the point of no-return - where they now MUST be accepted as part of the mainstream political process due to sheer wieght of support - to the extent that it is likely that Geert Wilders, for example, will be the ‘power-broker’ in the next Dutch election.
As I said earlier, the process has reached the stage where it’s now irreversible.ZOG can shout and scream, throw fits and feign ‘walk-outs’ and all the other silly nursery games, but it’s now in their ugly, fat, smelly faces - deal with it.
The time of branding anti-immigrant parties as ‘goose-stepping pubescent nazi wannabes’ has passed.The lefties worst fears of anti-immigrants being seen as ‘respectable’ has come to pass.
  Ha ha ha.
The situation in Britain is different - only because of the perverse and undemocratic voting system.If it wasn’t for the Neatherite plan and the other Blairite bullshit and immigration was held at pre-1997 levels, then it ismost likely that the BNP would have withered and died, and Britains teeming wog opulation grudgingly accepted ie Britain faced a slower death rather than a quicker death.But in their arrogance the silly cunts running New Labour overplayed their hand and enthuiastically unleashed their demographic deluge a mite too rapidly - hence the backlash which the BNP has reaped.
I don’t know if the BNP will win a seat or not (my guessing is that the Great British public is too dumb and footie and EastEnders fixated), but I do think a sea-change has be wrought.
Hubris is the word.New Labour’s god-awful arrogance has ensured that the BNP are a permanent force in British politics and here to stay.No more lunatic fringe.
The irony is that the long-standing immigrants, Labour’s loyal friends will suffer the backlash worse.
‘Hubris’ is the only word that matches the supercillious arrogance of the Neathergate article and the evil tinkerings of the Jew Portes.


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Posted by Eddie Booth on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:40 | #

Remember back in ‘79 when the old NF was on a roll - the shock of wog immigration was still being felt, coupled with Heath’s betrayal over the Ugandan Asians, so the NF fielded a record slate of candidates and the NF did very well in by-elections.
But their bubble was burst, Maggie proudly announced on ‘World in Action’ that “people feel swamped”.Thus the NF vote crumbled as the dupes voted Tory who prompltly let in millions of Somalis, Tamils and others.
Well, wet ‘ol Dave Cameron has the golden opportunity in this election to play the Nelson touch, to land a killer goal that could smash Labour into opposition for generations.If he had a brain and any cunning at all he could tap into the wellspring of hatred and anger over Labour’s betrayal over immigartion (98.5% of all ‘new’ jobs going to immigrants), make a few tough speeches larded with works like ‘cap’, ‘moratorium’, ‘national identity’, ‘unabsorbable’ etc, steal the BNP’s thunder, con the mugs, and the rest is history.
But trendy Dave is too daft to do this (despite the Daily mail’s prompting by publishing some very provocative front page stories recently), and the opportunity will slip.Polls point to a hung paliament.

Another point, Labour’s manifesto (lightweight, vision free bullshit of the highest order), contained a ‘promise’ to make all foreign public sector workers to take a literacy test.Surely the stupid cunts running Labour MUST realise that this will get their beloved Equalities Commissariat barking manically, plus the EU ruling it ‘discriminatory’ aginst freedom of labour? - Are they realy that stupid???
  - Methinks it was just a panicked response to the fact that immigrants have nabbed 98.5% of all new jobs, and a little sop to con the mugs.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:09 | #

Eddie,

Cameron played his immigration card weeks ago, such as it is:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6961675/David-Cameron-net-immigration-will-be-capped-at-tens-of-thousands.html

He isn’t stupid, and neither are the party planners.  I think they are fully aware that the BNP is a threat to Labour, not them.  The Sarko strategy does not need to be deployed this time round.  When they need it, they will reach for it.  You can count on that.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:30 | #

The Sarko strategy, for any who may be scratching their heads after reading GW’s comment above:  campaign as far to the right as possible on immigration (in other words, promise the people that once in, you’ll do something to staunch the immigration flood), and once in office, govern as far to the left as possible on immigration (in other words, proceed at full speed ahead with government-enforced race-replacement of the white population by means of an ever-expanding flood-tide of racially incompatible immigration from the non-white Third World replacing all the white people in the country, transforming it into a Third World country).  It’s the strategy employed to perfection by Sarkozy.


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Posted by Eddie Booth on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:03 | #

So it turns out the super light-weight, vision-free Labour manifesto was authored by Miliband primus, the more unimpressive of the two black-haired, speccy, spotty wimpy Golders Green siblings.
Why to two bothers have such a hold on the Cowdenbeast* is anyone’s guess, personally the pair of them seem to me to be throughly undistinguished.Rumour has it that the full weight of fellow-tribalist and New Labour arch-creep (not too literally one hopes!) Mandelson is behind Miliband secundus is the Cowdenbeast’s annointed heir-apparent once the beast finally croaks.Caused a bit of a kerfulle back in Stoke (actually the BNP’s prime prize), where the respected local man was tossed aside by Mandelson in oreder to parachute-in a Miliband acolyte to bolster the annointment.Angry locals planning to vote for an Old Labour spoiler ( a la Bermondsey 1982 ‘Tatchell’s a poofter’ and all that) thus letting the BNP man in through the middle.Ha ha ha.
Anyway back to Miliband primus.Signally unimpressive.It’s always a treat to watch Newsnight when Paxo’s in charge, his publc eviscerations of politicians are always a rare treat to behold and a masterclass in the fine art of destructive criticism.Everytime Ed Miliband appears he’s eviscerated (anatomized would be a better word) something rotten by Paxo, worse than virtually any other politician I can think of, the result is acutely embarrassing to watch.Reminds me of porpoise being harpooned once too bloodily with wounding barbs, falpping about helplessly and impotentl.
Just a few pointed barks and growls from Paxo (the Flashman of BBC TV) and…....instant jelly.There you have it.
Reminds me of the remarks of the late Tory Grandee Sir John Stokes in another context.“What we really want is a red-blooded, red-faced Englishman running the country!” (He was referring of course to Latvian Nigel and Lithuanian Leon).


* For our American and Continental readers mystified by all of the above, the Cowdenbeast is none other than the Rt Hon. Gordon Brown MP PM.You see it’s clever-clever Spectator word-play on ‘Cowdenbeath’, Scotland (the beast’s constituency) and the punch-drunk, 3 bottles a day ,mild stroke resembling estimable personage.


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Posted by Gorboduc on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:23 | #

EDDIE: part of your post made me puke. True.
The thought of Mandelson and Miliband minor “making the beast with ONE back” (or,” the beast with two p****s”) nauseated me so much I regretted my lunch. (At least Mandelson won’t be having any kids, though.)
But I really enjoyed the rest of it! You are certainly right in advising people to lokk back a few years, and well-meaning moderates should be made to take GW’s and Fred’s warnings about the Sarko/Thatcher strategy seriously.
Unsurprisingly, my local Labour candidate’s flyer talks about “Putting local people first”. No hint of an implicit immigration policy there though, the man’s an immigrant himself, as are most of the local “locals”.


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Posted by Guessedworker on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:37 | #

Thanks, Fred.  Here’s the likely reasoning inside the Conservative Party:

For this campaign the party must win the votes of the middle-ground back to his party, which actually means victory in around sixty key marginals currently held by Labour.  In national terms, a performance that delivers that would also deliver the Tories close to 40% of the total vote and a ten-point gap to Labour.  That is the scale of the challenge to oust Gordon Brown.

So what is the appropriate tack for the Tories to take?  Well, it is solely a question of attracting a vote which does not yet place immigration - and much less the existential question - at the core of its concerns.  Judging from the noises the Tories are making, it’s the economy, health and education, and just being all-round, modern nice guys that weigh most heavily with that sector, rather than what the Cameroons see as the old “nasty-party” fascinations with tax cuts for the rich, Europe, law ‘n order, and respectability.

Really, the problem is the First Past The Post system used in this country.  It collapses everything down to one key political battleground, and allows considerations of electoral safety elsewhere to overide the duty to give a proper airing to all the issues.


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Posted by Eddie Booth on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:40 | #

Apparently “The War of the Cowdenbeast”  succession has already started at Labour Party HQ.
The two candidates are Miliband minor and Ed Balls - Brown’s pet and protege and in-house loudmouth whom Alistair Darling ‘of the eyebroews’ famously muzzled a few months ago when the young pretender started pulling rank and making lound exclamations of ‘spending billions here and spending billions there’.
Milband minor is, of course, the eminence grise’s own little pet for the top job.So it looks like Mandelson has got Brown by the Balls. (Sorry I couldn’t resist it smile  ).


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:33 | #

According to the latest YouGov poll, it is conservative oriented voters [72%] who are 55 plus [68%] that wish to bring the immigration issue to the forefront.

http://today.yougov.co.uk/sites/today.yougov.co.uk/files/YG-Archives-ST-results-10.04.pdf

Page 7

The same demographic, although not as strongly, “Disagree(s) - gay couples should have the same access as
others to B&Bs;”. It’s a fait accompli. Discrimination is indivisible.  Yet they will not support the BNP at any significant level (2%). Clearly the Conservatives are courting the younger vote knowing full well their geriatric base will not desert them.


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Posted by Captainchaos on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:56 | #

Britain faced a slower death rather than a quicker death.But in their arrogance the silly cunts running New Labour overplayed their hand and enthuiastically unleashed their demographic deluge a mite too rapidly

That’s why I’m hoping for four more years of Obongo and an amnesty for illegal aliens with its attendant chain migration.  The goddamn lemmings will never wake up until the proverbial gun barrel is pressed firmly to their collective temple.


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Posted by Dan Dare on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:36 | #

@Eddie - re Stoke. Have we heard whether Mandy’s boy is you know, thingy. With a name like Tristram it would seem an odds-on bet, although I understand he’s married with a couple of nippers but that might just be protective coloration.

I trust Simon has the snouts on the job, or if not a little bit of chinese whispering while out on the rounds might do the trick.

Machiavellian, moi? Well it’s the sort of dirty trick that Mandelson loves to pull so why not.


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Posted by Gudmund on Wed, 14 Apr 2010 03:41 | #

That’s why I’m hoping for four more years of Obongo and an amnesty for illegal aliens with its attendant chain migration.

I’m not sure the Magic Mulatto will win a second term, frankly, his approval ratings are already approaching late Bush-era levels.  Ouch.  That’s because of his largely incompetent domestic policy, the Democrats have overreached in their agenda.  But judging by this latest health care maneuver I’m confident they will find a way to pass amnesty before the black Lenin is even up for re-election.


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Posted by Grimoire on Wed, 14 Apr 2010 05:04 | #

@Dan Dare
        Questions is, whale oil beef hooked, and if not, taters? Will he give up a Larry? Maybe it’s a co-inky-dink…because thats what they really want! Cages of salted kittens…fresh meat for the lot of em. This is grate nuse….fargin huge
The not so wee fat bastard.


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Posted by Gorboduc on Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:13 | #

@CC:
I’m aware of folks over here who are hoping for five more years of Gordon Brown so that things get a LOT worse and people eventually wake up: Gordon Brown is ALSO hoping for five more years of himself so that people become even more somnolently acclimatised/resigned to their state.

I think it’s a bad thing to wish more degradation on a people even with the stated hope that they will eventually rise and shake off their chains; they may just sink further down and find the re-ascent too steep. Such a course appears to me to smack of deceptive psycho-therapies like EST and Scientology where the subject is degraded ostensibly in order that his eventual release may result in a higher exaltation: the result is quite the opposite, with the “liberated” subject fawning the more slavishly on his therapist.

You may bow your head before diving or leaping to freedom: but if the head be pushed down by another, your neck may be broken.

If you have an abscess you can apply hot fomentations and poultices to concentrate all the infected matter at one place, and then void it: or you can apply slow pressure and drive the pollution deeper so that more of your system is sapped.

Over here we need to get rid of the left (and that includes the Tories) NOW and if the effort doesn’t succeed we must keep on fighting and NOT cynically triumph over our kinsfolk with “Well, that showed you! Five more years of the same! Now see how you like it! Ha!”

Supposing Griffin doesn’t unseat the utterly vile and despicable Margaret Hodge?
Then an unrelenting campaign must be waged against her with total disclosure of all her dirty litle secrets, her origins, background, tastes, and foul actions. Her doings must be on every local person’s lips: she must be exposed, humiliated and publicly execrated, and the pressure must be kept up until she is too ashamed to appear on the streets and resigns her seat.
This would be the hot poultice regimen recommended above.


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Posted by Dan Dare on Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:59 | #

@Grimoire ot 04:04. Um yes, I see what you mean, well more or less I think. But it seems to have lost a little in translation, can you run the original by us just to be on the safe side?


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Posted by Dan Dare on Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:18 | #

Supposing Griffin doesn’t unseat the utterly vile and despicable Margaret Hodge?

Does anyone seriously think that he can Gorbo?

When was the last time a Labour majority of 9000 was overturned? The last swing of that magnitude that I recall was Michael Portillo’s ousting in 1997.

I can’t see it somehow. No matter how ghastly Hodge is the NuLabor machine will grind out the vote aided in no small manner by the fact that the constituency now has a 25% ethnic population, an insurance policy quietly put together since the BNP breakthrough on the council.

In my view the real prize is control of the council and its £300 million budget, and that Griffin’s candidacy is a diversionary tactic to draw enemy fire.


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Posted by Dan Dare on Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:38 | #

With respect to Cameron’s ‘Immigration Card’ nobody in the MSM or the public in general appears to have caught the dodge implicit within.

Cameron is playing on the bogus concept of ‘net migration’, that is: the difference the number of (mainly indigenous) British citizens emigrating and the number of (mainly third-world) foreigners moving in.

All that Cameron’s wheeze amounts to is a ‘pledge’ that if say a million indigenous move more more than a million plus a few tens of thousands of darkies will permitted to move in. Net result: a million whites are replaced by a million-plus non-whites.

It’s a mystery why people fall for this sleight of hand. But then perhaps it isn’t really.


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Posted by Captainchaos on Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:11 | #

At least you’ve got the BNP over there, Gorbo.  Engage in activism on behalf of the BNP, that’s what I’d being doing if I were a citizen of the UK.  Over here we’ve got, uh, nothing.


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Posted by Gudmund on Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:16 | #

Over here we’ve got, uh, nothing.

D’you mean to tell me you don’t see raw potential in the tea parties?  For shame.

/sarcasm


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Posted by Dan Dare on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 01:03 | #

Above should have read:

“if, say, a million indigenous move out, [and] a million plus a few tens of thousands darkies move in…”

Must be becoming dyslexic in my old age.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 02:07 | #

“D’you mean to tell me you don’t see raw potential in the tea parties?”  (—Gudmund)

Gudmund, I know you’re joking but I’ll just point out for our comrades across the water that the Tea Partiers over here correspond very roughly to, let’s say, the English Defense League over there, in the sense that they know something’s gone drastically wrong but they don’t understand that it’s government-enforced race-replacement of white people.  The EDL thinks it’s Islamization, the TPers “Obama’s socialist transformation of the country.”  They’re good folk but they don’t read the right blogs.  Unless you read the right blogs it’ll take you years to figure this stuff out on your own, and even then you won’t be able to figure it out — it can take an entire adult lifetime to figure this stuff out on your own and you’re lucky to succeed.  The cluelessness that results from not reading the right blogs makes both the TPers and the EDL devote as much energy to “proving they’re not racist” every time the Jews and communists bark at them as to actually getting anything useful accomplished.  In the end neither “movement” will accomplish very much that’s useful unless they smarten up.


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Posted by Fred Scrooby on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 02:44 | #

The Captain is right, over here we’ve got nothing.  Yet… . 

Over there the name of the game is the BNP.  It’s the only game in town right now, and everyone with his head screwed on frontwards over there has to get aboard the BNP express.  Right now.  Don’t ask questions; details can be worked out later, just get on board, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ervf7hIxZ3Y , and don’t look back.  You do not realize the magnitude of the thing that’s going to hit if you hesitate.  The time for hesitating, the time for thinking, is over.  It’s gone.  There is no more time.  You have to start mounting your defense.  Now.

Everyone:  here’s what you have to do:  VOTE BNP!


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Posted by Gudmund on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 02:52 | #

Fred,

You’re right.  The tea partiers are decent white folk who don’t understand the magnitude of the problem but their heart is in the right place.  Unfortunately their energy has already been somewhat co-opted by the US CON-servative, pro-Zionist crowd.

They do have potential in the same way that the (sorry to bring this up again, I know our Anglo fellows just hate this) German masses had potential in the days of the Weimar Republic.  But the pro-white movement would have to grow by leaps and bounds in sophistication to be able to seize the momentum and we don’t have much time.

BTW, thanks for your remarks regarding “waking up”, it can be a long process, but thankfully in my case I was already aware of the “blocking of the democratic process” re: AIPAC when Captainchaos showed up at Takimag.  I was at that time already beginning to critically examine what was wrong with America and ‘the West’ in general.  After reading his remarks there I decided to come over here and see what you all had to say and the rest is history.


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Posted by Wandrin on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:02 | #

To that end, it is a little strange that the party is campaigning on three principal issues: withdrawal from Afghanistan, a halt to the immigration invasion, and an end to the ‘Global Warming’ conspiracy.

I agree it seems odd. It makes sense as a directed attack on three tentacles of the NWO but you’d think that might be a bit esoteric for the current climate. Then again, maybe not. It depends a bit on how much it’s brought down to earth maybe. In particular the global warming hoax can be tied to a lot of unneccessary taxes. Interesting gamble.

The voting public’s first concern is for the economy and jobs.  But the BNP seems not to understand how to address that (bringing some economic literacy on-board would seem a good start).

Agree again. I think the best economic line in the short-term is to only talk about globalisation and where it leads i.e levelling down living standards across the globe. Once people are persuaded of the consequences of the globalism supported by all the mainstream parties then any alternative is going to seem better.

Also high on the list of concerns is the related issue of the unaccountability of Westminster and corruption of the political class.  But, again, it is not a major issue in party thinking.

Personally, I would like to see them campaign hard for freedom of speech and association, and an end to cultural warfare in public life, most especially in education (it will have to do so anyway if it wants to attract support from the Conservative/UKIP voting middle-classes).  All told, there is an extraordinary opportunity for the party to sculpt a powerful, attractive and wholly unique ideological niche for itself, and one that the left cannot reply to with the usual smears.

Agree again There’s a whole “anarcho-fascist” philosophy that could be built out of a mixture of counter cultural warfare mixed in with back to magna carta constitutional reform and a roll-back of the PC state that would appeal to the UKIP / Old Tory vote.


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Posted by Dan Dare on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:04 | #

Everyone:  here’s what you have to do:  VOTE BNP!

Or if you can’t vote, send them money. Non-residents can donate up to £500 ($750) in any one calendar year.

You can also join as an Overseas Member.


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Posted by Captainchaos on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:07 | #

I wouldn’t be shocked if within ten years the Tea Party movement becomes oriented towards secession.


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Posted by Wandrin on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:41 | #

D’you mean to tell me you don’t see raw potential in the tea parties?  For shame.

I know most WNs over there don’t see much potential in the tea parties but personally i see a lot if played right. I’ve read a few American WN blogs where they’ve talked about having no success at tea party events but as always i think it comes down to first finding out where people are and then only aiming to move them one step at a time closer to a WN position.

From my understanding the tea partiers are all about limited government, low taxes and the constitution with no racial element. Trying to bring them to a racial / tribal position in one go will never work. If anything it will de-radicalize them as they fall over themselves trying to prove how non-racist they are. The line i’d take with tea partiers if i was over there is:

The liberals (marxists) who control the Democrats always wanted a big government, socialist state but knew the Old Americans would never vote for it. Therefore they created and supported mass immigration as a means to “elect a new people” who would support their goals. If you want to protect the limited government ideals of the founding fathers you need to support a moratorium on immigration long enough to allow the new immigrants to assimilate into those American ideals.

Obviously that last bit will never happen but that’s not the point. The point is to give them a position which is just one step from where they are, non racial and eminently reasonable while at the same time guaranteed to put them on a collision course with both the genociders inside the Democrats and the globalist fifth column inside the Republicans. The relentless attacks from the political elite that would ensue would then hopefully leading to increased radicalization.

There’s a lot of scope with the tea partiers in my view but only if WNs try and nudge them one step at a time from where they are.


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Posted by Grimoire on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:53 | #

I have already decided two weeks ago to donate the full amount to the BNP.
I shall be sending a cashiers cheque and a letter shortly.
Britain is a pressure point nation that has a history of resistance to occupation.
Success there is a Victory for us all.
A $20 donation, any amount, is worth far and away more as a mark of confidence.
Whatever you can donate, your investment will come back and enforce the struggle in all Western nations.


When Britain wakes, comes to her senses and puts her foot on the head of the snake.
That is when you will know we have turned a corner. That we can no longer be fooled with.
What is ours, we will have it back.


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:41 | #

Things are looking up in [that] “scepter’d isle, This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars ...” etc. etc.

Richard Dawkins is ambivalent about Christianity…

“There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings. I am not aware of any Christian suicide bombers. I am not aware of any major Christian denomination that believes the penalty for apostasy is death. I have mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity, in so far as Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse.”

The EDL now has a Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgendered Division…and pederasts are considering voting for th BNP…

Phil said…

  As a gay man who is also a Buddhist I never thought I’d vote for the BNP. But having friends attacked by packs of Muslim youths simply for being gay I’m changing my opinion and will be voting for the BNP since nobody else will protect us. The BNP may not be exactly pro-gay but unlike the Muslims they don’t want to kill us.

http://seanrobsville.blogspot.com/2010/04/buddhists-dawkins-and-gays-worried-by.html?showComment=1271232728895#c3564488596217544764


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Posted by Wandrin on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:16 | #

I’m changing my opinion and will be voting for the BNP since nobody else will protect us.

Strange but probably true.


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Posted by Desmond Jones on Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:27 | #

More from BNP candidate Tony Ward, who was attacked by a hammer…

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/7943556.stm

You are right that the BNP are not pro Gay, we do not believe Christian Firemen being forced against their beliefs to take part in Gay pride marches or face losing their jobs. We neither believe anyone should be forced to take part in Heterosexual pride marches so all fair then! however Enigma codebreaker Alan Turing was one of the best minds this country has ever produced. He saved millions of lives and in my opinion shortened the war by a year. If the Germans could have lasted one more year they would have been the first with an intercontinental nuclear missile. the appalling way he was punished for being gay would not be tolerated under a BNP government. I find it repugnant watching two men kiss in a bus stop, but I also do of a man and woman “get a room” Your sexuality should be private and when I was in the RAF in the early 80’s we knew who was gay and they just kept it private. They were not ostracized in any way and that’s as it should be. BTW the BNP has at least 1 Gay candidate that I know of, everyone knows who he is as he is a bit flaming but he does not sing it from the rooftops as what you or I do with our penis should be private.
Tony Ward BNP candidate.

I forgot to mention I’m also in a mixed race marriage and if you want to see the way this country is heading then search out the video from Iran showing two 15 yr old gay boys having nooses put round their necks, ropes thrown over a high roller then tied to a truck which drives of at high speed and rips their heads off! As that time gets close in this country I hope you don’t find yourselves wishing you had voted BNP when you had the chance.

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/013789.html#c490814

A gay salvation from those heathen Nahzees…


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Posted by MGLS on Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:54 | #

This story is absurd.  I wouldn’t be surprised if it is a complete fabrication.  Commenters point out that “Pete” is lying because the magazine Identity began in 1999 and he claims to have read it in the 1980s.

I was a BNP bigot until I fell for my Jamaican colleague
as told to Melissa Thompson 18/03/2010

The amazing story of a Jamaican woman and her racist workmate

Pete’s story

If someone had said to me in the 80s that I’d marry a black woman, I’d have said “Never in a million years!”

You see, I dread to think how many years I’d been active with the BNP.

I was in my late teens when it all started. Growing up I didn’t really have black friends or know any other cultures apart from my own.

I was always looking back to the “good old days” of England. I was worried about immigration and I couldn’t see where it would all end.

Then I read a BNP magazine called Identity, and I thought, “I agree with that all the way.” That’s when I got active doing leafleting for them, and eventually I progressed to regional organiser.

I was blinded by it. They said what I wanted to hear. I was involved right through the 80s, when BNP founder John Tyndall was in charge before Nick Griffin, who I also became friendly with.

I wouldn’t go on marches, I couldn’t see the point. But I’d go to Red White and Blue conventions.

Then in the summer of 2005 I was working as a manager for Royal Mail in the Northampton depot when I met Kaye. She’d just taken a part-time job and I thought she was beautiful.

We got talking and we just clicked. She dressed beautifully, she was just incredible. I couldn’t believe she hadn’t been snapped up. I was attracted to her immediately and I was surprised at my ­feelings towards her. It was scary, too.

People knew me as “BNP Pete” – they still do. And I thought about what people might think and say because of what I’d been involved in, to suddenly go the other way.

I knew something had to give. I couldn’t carry on being involved with the BNP and be with Kaye. It took about six months before I realised I wanted to be with Kaye full-time, and then I didn’t renew my BNP membership.

People asked me why and I told them it was because I was with Kaye. They might have thought things if they’d seen us walking down the street together, but only one person ever said anything negative to my face.

This guy I used to work with, an original skinhead, asked if I was still “sh***ing that black b****”. I told him we were a couple and to refrain from calling her that. He apologised, and then sent a Christmas card to us, which was a surprise.

Kaye moved in with me in October 2006 and we had our daughter Ruby in May 2008.

I’ve got a 20-year-old daughter Elizabeth from my first marriage who knew about my BNP days and is glad I’m out of it. She used to tell me, “You don’t like anything” – I was anti-this and anti-that. The only thing I wasn’t anti was myself.

Kaye’s daughter Dahlia, 11, lives with us too and we’re bringing her other daughter Jaysia, 16, over once she’s finished her exams. I can’t wait for us all to be a family.

I was at the immigration court the other day, putting in our application for her to come over.

Before, that would’ve been unheard of – me trying to bring someone from Jamaica here.

In a way, I’m clearing my conscience about my past. When I look back on my time with the BNP, I just think I was blowing a lot of hot air about nothing.

I find it sad reflecting on what people must have thought about me back then. There are some beautiful black women but I’d never have even thought about getting married to one, it would never have occurred to me. No one agreed with mixed-race relationships in my BNP days. They’d be horrified about it – the older ones more than the younger members.

The BNP’s perception of Jamaicans? Selling drugs. And if a mugging happened they’d blow it all up. Being with Kaye has educated me about what Jamaicans are really like and it also puts closure on my past. It’s a whole new world to me.

I’ve now got friends from Nigeria, Somalia, Pakistan which people would’ve said wasn’t possible before. And they’ll all be coming to our wedding on May 29.

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I’m glad I’m out of the BNP. I’d tell any people who are thinking about voting for them to think very carefully. I won’t be voting for them again.

And I’d say to them, “Look at me and my family – would you vote against this?”

Everything’s rosy for me now. And it’s all down to Kaye.

Kaye’s story

Although I liked Pete deep down when we first began working together, I’ve always been very shy.

But we got close and then in July 2006 we went for a drink and I realised I had fallen head over heels for him.

As we got closer, people at work started gossiping. Then one day someone came up to me and asked me if I knew that Pete was in the BNP. At the time, I didn’t even know what the BNP was – so she told me it was a racist party.

I came to England in 2000 from Jamaica to be my uncle’s carer. I’d been brought up to respect people no matter who they are or whatever their skin colour. So I wasn’t used to anything like the BNP.

At first I just thought it was another political party. But as I did find out more about it, I wasn’t worried it would stop me and Pete getting together because I felt we’d had a connection straight away.

I’ve always followed horoscopes and we were a perfect match. Once I realised how compatible we were, I thought, “That’s it, I’m not searching any more. I’ve found him,
The One.”

As time went by I saw more about the BNP on television and I thought, “Are they really like that?” I’d like them to realise that it doesn’t matter what colour or culture you are, we’re all one. If we’re cut, we all bleed the same. But at the end of the day that’s their beliefs, and I can’t change it.

The only problem we’ve had is when someone Pete used to work with asked him if he was still going out with that “black b****”.

Pete was really upset when he came home and told me about it. I could’ve put a complaint in but I thought about the man’s wife and children – they didn’t deserve to suffer for what their dad had said.

Knowing the Pete I know, I can’t believe he has ever been racist. To me, he’s just lovely Pete. He’s my world – he’s loving, gorgeous and generous. He means the world to me.

I’ve never been as happy in a relationship as I am with Pete. All my family love him to bits, too. I get on really well with Pete’s mum and he loves spending time with my auntie in London. The first time my auntie met him she told me, “He’s the man for you, look after him”.

Most importantly, he treats my children from my first relationship as though they’re his own.

Our wedding in May is going to be amazing – a real mix of English and Jamaican culture. It will reflect both of us. Behind the main table Pete will have two flags, a British and a Jamaican one, and to eat we’ll have curry goat, rice and peas as well as roast salmon. Pete’s got really into his spicy food now, he puts spice on pretty much everything!

My family will be coming over from Jamaica for the wedding and it will be a real mix of cultures as we’ll have guests from all over the world. It will be the start of a new life together, united.

I know what people say about the BNP, but I don’t care. They can get on with their life and I’ll get on with mine.

Still, I’d like to think our relationship sends out a message and lets people realise that being in a mixed relationship doesn’t matter – it can work and you can be happy.

There’s no room for racism and small-minded views in this country.


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Posted by Wandrin on Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:53 | #

On the gay thing - as currently in the UK all the mainstream parties and all the media are 100% pro gay to the point of being anti-hetero or at least anti-marriage then being a bit anti-gay but a lot less than the growing number of invaders who want to hang them from cranes is probably a good position politically.

I was a BNP bigot until I fell for my Jamaican colleague

Tying both threads together he looks like a caricature homosexual jew to me.

Look at how he’s not really holding her.


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Posted by Gorboduc on Sat, 17 Apr 2010 01:06 | #

Two mouths with but a single style!
Two minds that think as one!

Funny how Kaye and Pete both use exactly the same idiom. Any reasonably intelligent third-rate little journalist can knock this sort of stuff out by the ream.

It looks like a re-run of the “beautiful girl student falls for Masai dream-warrior, leaves the Sorbonne to live in mud-hut in Odingo’s Kraal”.

I suppose the next story of this sort to be planted in the press will begin something like this:

RON GOLLIP says

“I found my gay black soul-mate at Clapham!”

I mean, I always knew I was gay, and I must tell you I’d had a lot of fun with young white lads- they used to be my favourites!
But not any more now. I’m white myself, I should add, and, let’s be honest, I know my way around Clapham Common and Hampstead Heath and Russell Square.
Let no one tell you different - white boys are OK, but now I’ve found something much, much, better
Between you and me, really it’s fantastic, all my friends and my family and the people at work, they were all so supportive of me and my tastes, and of course thay want me to be happy, but they never thought I’d find adventure and fulfilment with a coloured lad. My gran, she’d be SO proud of me . . .
Imagine my surprise when last night I was just coming out of the Two Brewers at Clapham - it was a drag night and I’d had a couple of drinks with this ex-Tory MP in a big blond wig, no, not Harvey Proctor,  but the one on the radio.  I had my heels and fishnets on and I saw this gorgeous young black lad smiling at me. If my mates could see me now, I thought - they’d be amazed I was going for something different.
Oooh! get you, ducky!
I never thought that I, little Ron Gollip, the kid round the corner, would have such luck!  But hey, Greville Janner, eat your heart out, I said!
Like I say, it’d never crossed my mind that I might find myself encountering a beautiful handsome guy from another culture, so I smiled back, and soon there we were,  careering off into the bushes, like there was no tomorrow . . . we arranged to meet this evening, and I mean to say, I can hardly wait . . .

I can’t go on now. But it really is easy, even though it’s also sickening.

I hate to tell you that, back in the real world, the day after giving me this interview, Ron was found on Clapham Common, with severe injuries, some of them internal: he was stark naked and suffering from exposure, and before lapsing into a coma managed to tell police that his wallet had been taken, he’d been stripped and raped, his gold chains, ear-rings and bracelets had been forcibly pulled off, and his new Harley Davidson had been stolen.  Police are looking for a young coloured male….


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Posted by Eddie Booth on Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:17 | #

There seems to be an interesting ‘Panorama’ on BBC1 at 8:30pm this evening, concerning the economic impact (mosty on the housing stock) of New Labour’s open-door mass immigration policy, (if the Cowdenbeast tries to wriggle out of it again - he usually succeeds due to ineptitude of his opponents, then the ‘Andrew Neather’ article should and MUST be thrown at him - Tory lurkers take note!).


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Posted by Bill on Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:27 | #

Britain’s election - just one view.

The truth we so desperately seek forces us to consult the world of the virtual (Internet) and when it is denied, we languish in the matrix of ignorance of the MSM - never to escape.

To-day, due to an extended enforced lay-off from the virtual world, I have, over the past 10 weeks or so, been involuntarily cast (kicking and screaming) into the matrix world of the BBC. (Mainstream Media)

On reflection, an experience for which I am immensely grateful.

In my view, the grip of the MSM remains absolute.  Placing myself in the position of the teeming millions who have no alternative access, gumption or means of the alternative Internet, the MSM are fabricating, shaping and bringing into being in Britain - a coalition government.

It is being achieved with consummate ease, the method is well tried and tested, the only permissible agenda put before the public is set by the media.  These permissible parameters are skilfully kept within airtight bubbles controlled by them, all else simply does not exist.

The recent televised presidential style debate of the three hopeful prime ministerial candidates has only reinforced their (media’s) stranglehold on the course of the permissible questions and comment.

Did the media creat the Clegg bounce?  I suspect they did.

The wealth of alternative views and information fashioned here on the Internet is not allowed the oxygen of the MSM, it is kept hidden from view of the conditioned millions, it simply doesn’t exist.

The media know full well the so called democratic capitalist world is breathing it’s last and is not long for this world, this fabrication of a coalition government will legitimise an already suspected fact, they, (politicians,) are all the same.

Like a fast flowing mountain stream, MR tumbles it’s way - carrying it’s comments swift and distant.

After my enforced absence - I will never catch up.


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Posted by Bill on Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:12 | #

Fred.  Just came across this.  This guy tells it much better.

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/8636/

How has the media become so influential? It’s not because they have anything especially enlightening to say. Nor is it because the public is fickle and is lapping up everything the press tells them (as suggested by the absence of mass public support for Cleggmania). One journalist, after days of media hysteria about Clegg, had the gall to say that ‘once a craze takes hold, [the public] succumb to it without being able to explain why’. No, the media have become influential by default. At a time when there is a gaping disconnect between the parties and the public, the media have assumed the role of a new pseudo-public realm, where politicians aim their ideas and policy proposals. And at a time when the political parties feel isolated, unanchored and bereft of big ideas, they become incapable of writing the political narrative themselves, of meaningfully forming a political culture, and so become susceptible to a powerful external force’s instinctive framing of the political agenda. The rise of the media is built on the emptying out of the political parties and the increasing exclusion of the masses from public life

.

The (West’s media) are now so powerful and dominantly persuasive, millions of soporific British have been hypnotized into acquiescing in their own suicide.

You can’t get more powerful than that.



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